The cr920 is using magazines made by Checkmate, who also makes the mags for Shield Arms. What Shadow did was essentially take a frame the same width of the 43x and made it as short as the 43 frame. Then Checkmate made shorter magazines than th S15, and this makes it the perfect size and capacity for edc.
I've been saying this. I didn't know it was the same magazine manufacturer. I hope these work better then the S15. If they get a good reputation I might cut a 43x frame short to use the cr920 magazines
It's just a 43x cut short with a metal magazine and some Gucci flare. Rumor has it checkmate makes the s15 and cr920 metal magazines. And the s15 works in the cr920, and the 43/43x slide works.
I look forward to hearing how it shoots compared to the 43X. I spent a year comparing a P365 to a 43X (both with optics), and ended up with the P365. But I keep hearing this shoots super nice. **Make sure yours doesn't have the "butt-barrel" which they're replacing for free, and hopefully you won't have the trigger issue that others on YT have had. :)
Yeah, I checked to make sure this didn’t have the butt barrel the minute I picked it up. So should be reliable. It seems like shadow system has great customer service. So if I do have any issues I’m confident they will take care of the issue. Being a smaller company compared to Glock or sig, they have to go above and beyond for their customers. Are you considering getting cr920 over the p365?
I have a MR920 and love it. I'm really interested in this...BUT...the proprietary mags is a real problem for me. Not sure yet, currently sticking with my 43x for summer carry
I hear you, I guess the question is how many mags do you need. It comes with two mags, one for flush fit (10 rounds) and extended (13 rounds). For me 1 additional mag is all I need for EDC but if your avid range shooter I can see where you may want more mags. If you use shield arms with your 43x to get you to 15rounds you have to use a proprietary magazine and they are pricey. Shadow arms magazine pricing is actually not too bad but they probably will have supply shortages on it until the company grows more.
@@OdenTactical I do go to the range a lot and usually save my shield mags for there. I just like the interchangeable aspect of Glock mags with my 19, 920, AR9 and P80 builds. It would be nice to have the same functionality with my 43x. As far as when I carry, 2 mags is what I roll with anyway and they are the glock mags. I'm being picky I know and probably just being this way to try and talk myself out of another purchase 🤣. I love what Shadow Systems has been doing tho so I'll more than likely get one before the year is over with 🤦🏽
I never sell guns only collect them. there might’ve been one or two firearms I regret buying but nowadays I rent, I shoot, if I like I buy. Reliable guns like Glocks SIGs and many other’s I never sell. I’ve shot my friends CR920 nice piece. I’m just more proficient with my Sigg 365X
Budget plays a role in me making decision to sell, part of my pitch to my wife to drop $1100 on a cr920 and a $1200 on a dr920 is that I would sell some of my other firearms. And I’m ok doing that because I don’t necessarily need a ton of guns sitting in a drawer not being utilized (except when I decide to go to range). Also even if I go to range I would like to spend my time with the gun that I carry everyday and the gun that is my home defense rather than a collection of firearms. Also my thought process is I would rather one loaded and decked out gun that has all the bells and whistles over a whole bunch of basic stock guns. When TH-cam makes me a millionaire, I’ll buy it all back jk, lol
@@OdenTactical I know that’s right. I used to have a bigger collection of guns until my wife found out they weren’t $100 each, like I originally I told her so.
Nice video, well done. Just need a better mic on you. They aren't even expensive these days. That audio was hard to endure tbh. Look forward to future reviews with that fixed.
Shadow systems has been a company for around 6 years and has not worked out all the kinks and issues. Glock has been around for over 40 years and is tried and true. SS looks pretty.. Glock works Everytime.
Your right that just because it is a WPS gun doesn’t make it better BUT the stippling work, improved magazine capacity over the 43 and 43x (with Glock mag) does make it a better firearm!
I personally would stick with Glock because it does have proven track record with reliability and also would just stick with oem mag.. too many videos out there that shows shadow systems malfunctions out the box for me to even get one. I believe if you pick a firearm it should function flawless out the box
Tbh, My glocks have jammed just like any other Gun. I understand that Glock has a great track record and in terms of reliability it’s definitely up there. I use to swear by Glock and refuse to look at any other gun besides Glock because it’s known as the words most reliable hand gun. But Glock is not the end all be all. OEM mag for Glock 43x is 10 rounds, That’s not that great when a hellcat can get 13 rounds with smaller grip. I think shadow systems has created a great product that comes with everything someone can possibly want on their Glock and not have to pay the hefty price tag to get it done. Shadow systems has proven that their customer service is top notch and if you have any issues with reliability or performance they will take care of you without charge. They are an ambitious growing company that listens to their customers. They addressed the barrel issue that was causing jams by sending everyone who has older barrel the new improved barrel for no charge.
@@OdenTactical I agree with what you are saying but just as I stated for my personal self I would would stick with glock just because of track record. I personally have never had jams or malfunctions in my glock and I’ve ran thousands and thousands of rounds using all oem parts. People tend to run into issues when they start upgrading with after market parts. Just like what I was stating I agree that shadow system is a great company who is very good with customer service and their engineering their firearms but like you said they had to replace the barrels of all the firearms that was sent out and depending on sales and how much many bought it. Those people are using those firearm as a self defense tool and will run into those issues it was having out the box.. people lives are depending on those tools and that’s just too many that have gone out to have issues with the barrel. That all boils down too track record.. shadow system is a great company and I believe in the future they will have that track record but for myself ile wait till that time.
Saw Palmetto has better mags. Shield had an opportunity twice to get their mags right yet they still make excuses. The palmetto mags are flawless. Little expensive, but you get what you pay for.
Mc2sc looks promising. It’s hard to find one, all the sites show sold out. Also prior to getting the CR920 I did contemplate getting the hellcat. I may have to borrow one from a friend to do a comparison video.
Hey! back again becuase I figured id ask some more about gear. I was thinking about getting the timney trigger but had a few people say it was amazing and others say its not because its not drop safe. just wanted to know your opinion. I plan on putting it on my CC but now I'm unsure about it being safe.
Tbh I’ve never heard of Timney triggers, I just looked it up and it seems good. I like the fact that they have safety still on their trigger. I might have people jump at my throat for what I’m about to say but I’m actually a fan of keeping the trigger stock with a 4-5lb pull. I find it to be a small safety in itself to not be too light to pull. I carry one in the chamber appendix so a hair trigger doesn’t exactly make me feel comfortable not that anything would happen.
@@OdenTactical I want to keep the trigger I have but it has a lot of take up and it’s gritty and idk why. It almost feels like it has two walls now and I’m really not liking it anymore.
@@OdenTactical also I think they’re good and a lot of people say they’re great but a few have said they’re not good for edc cuz they go off if hit to hard or dropped which scares me cuz I carry 1 in the chamber
@@OdenTactical I also carry appendix and I’ve heard they’re great triggers and feel great to shoot but not sure for EDC. I just don’t like how my trigger feels rn
@@StormzBlair If I was you, I would take apart the gun and see if you can fix the problem with your stock trigger. There are videos that show how to diagnose and fix trigger issues on TH-cam. Assuming that you want to restore trigger to how it felt when you first received it. Although if you go with the trigger your talking about you should be fine, this is probably not the best advice, so take what I’m about to say with a grain of salt but I personally have never dropped my fire arm in the 6 years I’ve been carrying. I thinks it’s very rare for something like that to happen in the first place if a person is very cautious with it.
@@SolidusLightning777 ok Just wanted to make sure. I looked at some reviews before and a lot of people were hating on it and saying a lot of bad things so it sketched me out.
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The cr920 is using magazines made by Checkmate, who also makes the mags for Shield Arms. What Shadow did was essentially take a frame the same width of the 43x and made it as short as the 43 frame.
Then Checkmate made shorter magazines than th S15, and this makes it the perfect size and capacity for edc.
Have you tried the s15 mag in the 920?
@@rwally192 not personally but it is reported to "work".
I've been saying this. I didn't know it was the same magazine manufacturer. I hope these work better then the S15. If they get a good reputation I might cut a 43x frame short to use the cr920 magazines
It's just a 43x cut short with a metal magazine and some Gucci flare. Rumor has it checkmate makes the s15 and cr920 metal magazines. And the s15 works in the cr920, and the 43/43x slide works.
I look forward to hearing how it shoots compared to the 43X. I spent a year comparing a P365 to a 43X (both with optics), and ended up with the P365. But I keep hearing this shoots super nice. **Make sure yours doesn't have the "butt-barrel" which they're replacing for free, and hopefully you won't have the trigger issue that others on YT have had. :)
Yeah, I checked to make sure this didn’t have the butt barrel the minute I picked it up. So should be reliable. It seems like shadow system has great customer service. So if I do have any issues I’m confident they will take care of the issue. Being a smaller company compared to Glock or sig, they have to go above and beyond for their customers. Are you considering getting cr920 over the p365?
What's with the "gas chamber"?
I have a MR920 and love it. I'm really interested in this...BUT...the proprietary mags is a real problem for me. Not sure yet, currently sticking with my 43x for summer carry
I hear you, I guess the question is how many mags do you need. It comes with two mags, one for flush fit (10 rounds) and extended (13 rounds). For me 1 additional mag is all I need for EDC but if your avid range shooter I can see where you may want more mags. If you use shield arms with your 43x to get you to 15rounds you have to use a proprietary magazine and they are pricey. Shadow arms magazine pricing is actually not too bad but they probably will have supply shortages on it until the company grows more.
@@OdenTactical I do go to the range a lot and usually save my shield mags for there. I just like the interchangeable aspect of Glock mags with my 19, 920, AR9 and P80 builds. It would be nice to have the same functionality with my 43x. As far as when I carry, 2 mags is what I roll with anyway and they are the glock mags. I'm being picky I know and probably just being this way to try and talk myself out of another purchase 🤣. I love what Shadow Systems has been doing tho so I'll more than likely get one before the year is over with 🤦🏽
Just remember the 43x uses proprietary mags as well
@@chrisstanek6818 I know, I was hoping the 43x/48 and CR920 would all take the same. I got a chance to shoot one over the weekend. I do like it
I never sell guns only collect them. there might’ve been one or two firearms I regret buying but nowadays I rent, I shoot, if I like I buy. Reliable guns like Glocks SIGs and many other’s I never sell. I’ve shot my friends CR920 nice piece. I’m just more proficient with my Sigg 365X
Budget plays a role in me making decision to sell, part of my pitch to my wife to drop $1100 on a cr920 and a $1200 on a dr920 is that I would sell some of my other firearms. And I’m ok doing that because I don’t necessarily need a ton of guns sitting in a drawer not being utilized (except when I decide to go to range). Also even if I go to range I would like to spend my time with the gun that I carry everyday and the gun that is my home defense rather than a collection of firearms.
Also my thought process is I would rather one loaded and decked out gun that has all the bells and whistles over a whole bunch of basic stock guns.
When TH-cam makes me a millionaire, I’ll buy it all back jk, lol
@@OdenTactical I know that’s right. I used to have a bigger collection of guns until my wife found out they weren’t $100 each, like I originally I told her so.
@@Fight4freedom. 😂😂
Nice video, well done. Just need a better mic on you. They aren't even expensive these days. That audio was hard to endure tbh. Look forward to future reviews with that fixed.
Thanks for the feedback, I made the grave mistake of setting up next to my outside AC condenser. Going forward my audio should sound a lot better.
Shadow systems has been a company for around 6 years and has not worked out all the kinks and issues. Glock has been around for over 40 years and is tried and true. SS looks pretty.. Glock works Everytime.
Sounds like a jet engine in the background.
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My A/C
But pretty much a Jet Engine lol
Just because it a WPS doesn't mean it a better gun. Point, press, and Bang. That is what a firearm is meant to do period.
Your right that just because it is a WPS gun doesn’t make it better BUT the stippling work, improved magazine capacity over the 43 and 43x (with Glock mag) does make it a better firearm!
I personally would stick with Glock because it does have proven track record with reliability and also would just stick with oem mag.. too many videos out there that shows shadow systems malfunctions out the box for me to even get one. I believe if you pick a firearm it should function flawless out the box
Tbh, My glocks have jammed just like any other Gun. I understand that Glock has a great track record and in terms of reliability it’s definitely up there. I use to swear by Glock and refuse to look at any other gun besides Glock because it’s known as the words most reliable hand gun. But Glock is not the end all be all. OEM mag for Glock 43x is 10 rounds, That’s not that great when a hellcat can get 13 rounds with smaller grip. I think shadow systems has created a great product that comes with everything someone can possibly want on their Glock and not have to pay the hefty price tag to get it done. Shadow systems has proven that their customer service is top notch and if you have any issues with reliability or performance they will take care of you without charge. They are an ambitious growing company that listens to their customers. They addressed the barrel issue that was causing jams by sending everyone who has older barrel the new improved barrel for no charge.
@@OdenTactical I agree with what you are saying but just as I stated for my personal self I would would stick with glock just because of track record. I personally have never had jams or malfunctions in my glock and I’ve ran thousands and thousands of rounds using all oem parts. People tend to run into issues when they start upgrading with after market parts. Just like what I was stating I agree that shadow system is a great company who is very good with customer service and their engineering their firearms but like you said they had to replace the barrels of all the firearms that was sent out and depending on sales and how much many bought it. Those people are using those firearm as a self defense tool and will run into those issues it was having out the box.. people lives are depending on those tools and that’s just too many that have gone out to have issues with the barrel. That all boils down too track record.. shadow system is a great company and I believe in the future they will have that track record but for myself ile wait till that time.
@@alexp6456 I think that’s a fair assessment 👍
@@OdenTactical thanks for video it’s great content forsure !! Keep them coming
@@alexp6456 thank you, I really do appreciate the feedback!
Saw Palmetto has better mags. Shield had an opportunity twice to get their mags right yet they still make excuses. The palmetto mags are flawless. Little expensive, but you get what you pay for.
I got a palmetto mag and so far it’s great. Gonna do a review in the future hopefully
@@OdenTactical Good deal!
Could you review the Mossberg Mc2sc and compare it to the CR920? Interested in these and possibly the Hellcat.
Mc2sc looks promising. It’s hard to find one, all the sites show sold out. Also prior to getting the CR920 I did contemplate getting the hellcat. I may have to borrow one from a friend to do a comparison video.
$800. No Thanks.
Slide serrations and window cut/lightening cut.
Hey! back again becuase I figured id ask some more about gear. I was thinking about getting the timney trigger but had a few people say it was amazing and others say its not because its not drop safe. just wanted to know your opinion. I plan on putting it on my CC but now I'm unsure about it being safe.
Tbh I’ve never heard of Timney triggers, I just looked it up and it seems good. I like the fact that they have safety still on their trigger. I might have people jump at my throat for what I’m about to say but I’m actually a fan of keeping the trigger stock with a 4-5lb pull. I find it to be a small safety in itself to not be too light to pull. I carry one in the chamber appendix so a hair trigger doesn’t exactly make me feel comfortable not that anything would happen.
@@OdenTactical I want to keep the trigger I have but it has a lot of take up and it’s gritty and idk why. It almost feels like it has two walls now and I’m really not liking it anymore.
@@OdenTactical also I think they’re good and a lot of people say they’re great but a few have said they’re not good for edc cuz they go off if hit to hard or dropped which scares me cuz I carry 1 in the chamber
@@OdenTactical I also carry appendix and I’ve heard they’re great triggers and feel great to shoot but not sure for EDC. I just don’t like how my trigger feels rn
@@StormzBlair If I was you, I would take apart the gun and see if you can fix the problem with your stock trigger. There are videos that show how to diagnose and fix trigger issues on TH-cam. Assuming that you want to restore trigger to how it felt when you first received it.
Although if you go with the trigger your talking about you should be fine, this is probably not the best advice, so take what I’m about to say with a grain of salt but I personally have never dropped my fire arm in the 6 years I’ve been carrying. I thinks it’s very rare for something like that to happen in the first place if a person is very cautious with it.
Where did u get the war poet CR? I didn’t think they made one
Sportsman Guide
@@OdenTactical god I thought it was kinda a scammy website 😅
@@StormzBlair www.sportsmansguide.com
Totally Legit 👍👍
@@StormzBlair it's not. I got my MR920 War Poet from them in December.
@@SolidusLightning777 ok Just wanted to make sure. I looked at some reviews before and a lot of people were hating on it and saying a lot of bad things so it sketched me out.
Roll Tide from Tuscaloosa! Great video!!
Roll Tide!! Thank you!
What model Holosun RDS?
507k
Geez whatever is going on around you is too distracting and loud. Couldn't continue watching.
Yeah, I didn’t realize how loud my AC was outside till I was editing the video
Make sure you explain all of this to your wife, to come up with more gun purchases. They do become suspicious after the first dozen go arounds.
Lol, I’ll have to tie in a power point presentation along with a couple spreadsheets of why I need said gun.
Which Holosun model is that?
507k x2
@@OdenTactical thanks alot. Is it wider than the slide? Was looking at a 407k and it didn't seem like it would be completely flush.
@@jaysondejesuscollazo9578 like a hair wider, its honestly a perfect fit and doesn’t catch me as being too wide for the slide.
Ok ordering now. Thanks for the info
Is the dot red or green?
Roll Tide!
byass review
Not sure how it’s bias when I own 4 Glocks I’ve been carrying for years myself but ok