Hi. I am John’s mom. I can assure you that we did EVERYTHING in our power to help him. John was an amazing soul who put everyone before himself. He was being watched and it took a split second for his grandmother to go get a glass of water and he pulled the trigger. We had no idea he had a hidden gun. All guns were locked up and accounted for just like they asked us to ensure. He went to my moms because they were close and we thought it would be a good decompression time for him as he had two younger siblings at home. I shared his story to raise awareness and hopefully get mental health care reformed so no one else has to endure this pain. Please instead of being negative share his story so that it makes a difference for future patients.
On either ends of seeking help, the so-called "professionals" DO NOT listen. I was admitted after seeking help for being an abuse victim. I did everything to explain to the doctors, nurses, therapists, psychiatrist and still no one listened. I'm now left to deal with additional emotional & mental trauma from my experience in a psychiatric facility while still trying to get help to deal with my abuser. Something has to change
@@Blender.bunker Turn to bible and allow CHRIST to be your therapist, psychologist and psychiatrist. No man nor women fits to be one. All are sinners and without glory, all are tempted and suffer the same. All are expected to REPENT AND BORN AGAIN, to LIVE HOLY AND GO AND SIN NO MORE. All are weak in the daily fight between their spirit and flesh. All these therapist, psychologist and psychiatrist, this world provides, can do is: to deceive and steal. They deceived you through all these “diagnoses” and they steal your money, through all the pills which you “need”. In short: they poison your mind and your overall health, leaving you with neither one. Therapist, Psychologist and Psychiatrist = Field where no human soul, never ever going to fit of being an help, no matter the among of years spend in “medical schools” or the decree gotten from there. ALL of us are daily deceived, no matter the walks of life. Do not trust one nor to try to be one. 1 John 4:1 KJV Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Turn to the BIBLE yourself and advice it to others also.
@@SolarsidofavEXACTLY!! I actually just watched a different video of a woman who voluntarily admitted herself and when she asked to be released they refused to let her out and said they would go to court to get orders to keep her there, fast forward.....she didn't need to be there anymore and was able to be released after contacting the news station. Here we have a kid who needs to be there, so they make him go home and he kills himself. It's so discouraging. 😢
Agreed, all they care is a pay check, they just talk and don’t give a shit write whatever on a piece of paper throw us back in a room and call it a fucking day.
Shut that damn hospital down!!!! I was a patient there years ago when I was 15/16 they over kept me for 22 days and acted like I was going to be discharged and took the papers away and said it was for somebody else!!!!
I would really love to know what kind of insurance they had. 30 years ago my parents couldn't get me out of Pine Rest they had amazing Insurance. My Heart Breaks for this Moma and Family and Friends. I understand what her son was going through. I really wished we had a better Mental Health system that cared for their patients and not the Money.
I’ve been in there. I wonder if their insurance was unwilling to continue paying since it had been about two weeks. Typical stay is about 5-7 days. Wouldn’t be surprised if they pushed him out because of it.
so sad reading this I hope things get changed . A lot of people do not understand how truly bad mental illness can be. It can overtake everything. And medication is not always the answer. I can say from personally it took many thing before the right things was found to help me but I am glad it was found. Because otherwise this could have been my story.
So sorry for the loss of your wonderful son. Mental health should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. They just dont care. Shame on you. An innocent boy has died due to mental health incompetence.
This happened to my friend in a Detroit psych ward too. It ruined her life to go there- she said it exasperated her issues. They let her go, even though she was far from being ready. They sent her home to die because the insurance ran out.
They are complete bastards for doing that. They probably have a list of excuses so they can keep getting away with letting suicidal people out without any concerns for their safety.
I was in a long term state hospital for 9 months. The hospital traumatized mean. 3 weeks after being released I stole medication that wasn't mine and tried to overdose. My mom found me not feeling good because my blood pressure was dropping quickly. I ended up back in the hospital and I ended up going to a long term residential treatment facility. The residential saved my life. The people there were kind and listened to me as best as they could. I also did not make it easy for them as I was afraid of trusting new people. I was there for 2 years and 7 months. I graduated high school thanks to them. I'm now enrolled in a program to become a veterinary assistant.
Part of the reason this happens is because people working in these fields are not competent. They just need a paycheck so they go to work everyday, do what they have to im order to get through the day, collect their paycheck and it continues on from there. They probably couldn't even tell you 10 patients names. But when visitors come they act likr thry have it all together and hope no one finds out. And that happens in a lot of places unfortunately.
It’s not just mental health that fails but also law enforcement the justice system and veterinary care services same thing with foster care for help it’s all the same cycle keep your loved ones close by listen to them and help them as much the world is corrupt
That hospital should be sanctioned or something and whoever signed off on his release, whoever told his mother she'd be charged with child abandonment if she didn't pick him up that day, should be terminated and the doctor perhaps should be charged with negligent homicide or wanton endangerment. That's just my opinion.
Everyone failed him. My mental hospital will not let you leave even if you say you're doing good. This mental hospital let him go despite him saying he was doing bad.
how did this kid get his hands on a gun the moment he got out of a psych ward when he's telling people this stuff? nobody thought to tell granny to put the strap up before the kid that wants to die comes home clearly all the guns where not locked up and accounted for if he was able to find and hide one and not to mention how do you not notice your own gun is missing idk i think the shit could have been avoided but it might just be me rip
Look above☝☝ the mom posted that they had no idea he had a hidden gun. But I agree. How could they NOT check EVERY nook & cranny to make sure he did not have a gun? I don't get it. But I do know if not for the gun, he Wouldve done it some other way. Knives , rope, etc
The system totally failed him. But these hospitals are completely overwhelmed by millions of suicidal Americans everyday, all of whom have threatened self-harm. It's impossible to give each patient the real care they need, generally they are out of the hospital in 5 days because thats what the insurance will cover. I used to drive an ambulance in las vegas and 20% of all calls are people threatening self harm. Doesnt help that half the patients are homeless and just trying to get a room and food.
Grady Heath System in Atlanta, GA had failed me so many giving times when I trying so hard to get someone to understand my sad situations when I requested help they too busy with other gimmicks nonsense I feel sad for this young man my prayers and condolences go out for the families
Why would you still give him access to firearms. I'm not saying it's someone else's fault. But if he lready held a gun to his head, and said I wish I pulled the trigger. Wouldn't you remove the guns from the home?
Why did the boy want to end his life? What did he say about that? I ask because we don't know if this was a mental health issue only or a life issue or both. I am very sorry to John's entire family for your tragic loss of such a nice young man. Sometimes there may not be an answer and that's really hard to deal with.
I had a good friend who was released because her insurance ran out. Her parents rushed to get her in a new hospital but she had committed suicide the night she was kicked out.
Dude I tried suicide 2 times and been locked up for it don’t worry Jesus is with you we are all gods children! This boy is in heaven with with Jesus don’t worry 😉
He finally got fed up and said to staff so he could get out and then he would kill himself so sad that he felt this way thier were warning signs and the staff failed him repeadietly at that point aperson like this kid finally finds a way to do what they really want and isbto die butbthey dont actually want that i wish his mom would have just had him stay with here instead of his grandmothers house. After being away so long he needed his mom it is not her fault but i could never just let my son stay over at a realitives like in his situation and not be right by his side with this kind of condition and feelings that were like a yo yoi would of kept him closer to me know matter what it took so sad i feel her pain and understand it i wish her the best and will pray for her for peace 5:09
Deep down, I feel like his mom should’ve kept him around and show him a little more love like if he was a little kid again… one mistake and misdemeanor does not mean anything to treat to kick somebody to there grandmas house ,🏡 Deep down, he probably knew she was gonna go to heaven soon, and he might as well stay close to someone that cares for him 😔😔😔 people need to think better for their kids or pick better situations and better options😔😞
I went to the hospital cuz i was suicidal they i was fine and sended me home at the end of the day so i end up overdosing myself and i woke up back in the hospital so ya they put me in a mental hospital after wards
Their need for a gun outweighed their love for John. I have never felt the need to own a gun. Give your firearms away to the police department if someone in your family is thinking bad thoughts, otherwise, dont ask "why"
@Kevdawg Sutton III% Pro Gun-Rights Activist sometimes they can do everything and its still doesnt help, its hard too keep going, too someone like us, sometimes a "itll get better" wont help, therapy wont help, institutionalization and self/prescribed medicating or taking your own life is what does. Its the sad truth that sometimes you cant save everyone. However in this case he told em they just aint listen, the amount of people who are severely suffering from this will only say they will do it but dont, sometimes just sometimes you get that one thats genuine
@Kevdawg Sutton III% Pro Gun-Rights Activist even then being prescribed something doesnt mean youll take it. But the best way too tell if someone is serious about killing themselves (cause its hard too tell if they cry) how normal and frank about it are they talking, are they real happy out of nowhere, as someone whose tried it and working on himself(if i succeed and grow as a person only time will tell) im very frank with my own death and mortality, if someone is talking about it like its just some normal everyday shit and is the one not making a big deal over it, chances are that nigga actually crazy and might do it
Bnice Hi. I am John’s mom. I can assure you that we did EVERYTHING possible to help my son. It saddens me that you laugh but that also tells me you have never dealt with tragedy such as this. I hope you never have to live this nightmare. I promise you won’t find it funny. John was an amazing soul who put everyone before himself. He was being watched and it took a split second for his grandmother to go get a glass of water and he pulled the trigger. We had no idea he had a hidden gun. All guns were locked up and accounted for just like they asked us to ensure. He went to my moms because they were close and we thought it would be a good decompression time for him as he had two younger siblings at home. I shared his story to raise awareness and hopefully get mental health care reformed so no one else has to endure this pain. Please instead of being negative share his story so that it makes a difference for future patients.
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Hi. I am John’s mom. I can assure you that we did EVERYTHING in our power to help him. John was an amazing soul who put everyone before himself. He was being watched and it took a split second for his grandmother to go get a glass of water and he pulled the trigger. We had no idea he had a hidden gun. All guns were locked up and accounted for just like they asked us to ensure. He went to my moms because they were close and we thought it would be a good decompression time for him as he had two younger siblings at home. I shared his story to raise awareness and hopefully get mental health care reformed so no one else has to endure this pain. Please instead of being negative share his story so that it makes a difference for future patients.
im Sorry for your loss Mama may he rest with God
You failed
@@SamadAlHayadi oml
The United States needs universal healthcare that includes mental health, im so sorry 😢
@@SamadAlHayadi she’s not your mom, you’re confused
On either ends of seeking help, the so-called "professionals" DO NOT listen. I was admitted after seeking help for being an abuse victim. I did everything to explain to the doctors, nurses, therapists, psychiatrist and still no one listened. I'm now left to deal with additional emotional & mental trauma from my experience in a psychiatric facility while still trying to get help to deal with my abuser. Something has to change
To anybody watching this, you are so worth it. Keep fighting, I believe in you luv
Cheers
@@Blender.bunker Turn to bible and allow CHRIST to be your therapist, psychologist and psychiatrist. No man nor women fits to be one. All are sinners and without glory, all are tempted and suffer the same.
All are expected to REPENT AND BORN AGAIN, to LIVE HOLY AND GO AND SIN NO MORE.
All are weak in the daily fight between their spirit and flesh.
All these therapist, psychologist and psychiatrist, this world provides, can do is:
to deceive and steal.
They deceived you through all these “diagnoses” and they steal your money, through all the pills which you “need”.
In short: they poison your mind and your overall health, leaving you with neither one.
Therapist, Psychologist and Psychiatrist = Field where no human soul, never ever going to fit of being an help, no matter the among of years spend in “medical schools” or the decree gotten from there.
ALL of us are daily deceived, no matter the walks of life.
Do not trust one nor to try to be one.
1 John 4:1 KJV
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Turn to the BIBLE yourself and advice it to others also.
they.
Don't.
Care.
About.
Us....!!!!
Very well true, cause they act like they care trying to be there but actually there to get a paycheck from children
@@SolarsidofavEXACTLY!! I actually just watched a different video of a woman who voluntarily admitted herself and when she asked to be released they refused to let her out and said they would go to court to get orders to keep her there, fast forward.....she didn't need to be there anymore and was able to be released after contacting the news station. Here we have a kid who needs to be there, so they make him go home and he kills himself. It's so discouraging. 😢
Agreed, all they care is a pay check, they just talk and don’t give a shit write whatever on a piece of paper throw us back in a room and call it a fucking day.
Shut that damn hospital down!!!! I was a patient there years ago when I was 15/16 they over kept me for 22 days and acted like I was going to be discharged and took the papers away and said it was for somebody else!!!!
I would really love to know what kind of insurance they had. 30 years ago my parents couldn't get me out of Pine Rest they had amazing Insurance. My Heart Breaks for this Moma and Family and Friends. I understand what her son was going through. I really wished we had a better Mental Health system that cared for their patients and not the Money.
I’ve been in there. I wonder if their insurance was unwilling to continue paying since it had been about two weeks. Typical stay is about 5-7 days. Wouldn’t be surprised if they pushed him out because of it.
so sad reading this I hope things get changed . A lot of people do not understand how truly bad mental illness can be. It can overtake everything. And medication is not always the answer. I can say from personally it took many thing before the right things was found to help me but I am glad it was found. Because otherwise this could have been my story.
Sooo sad 🙏 to many people don't take us seriously. Mental health hurts
So sorry for the loss of your wonderful son. Mental health should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. They just dont care. Shame on you. An innocent boy has died due to mental health incompetence.
I was in this same hospital around the same age... This hospital doesn't care
This happened to my friend in a Detroit psych ward too. It ruined her life to go there- she said it exasperated her issues. They let her go, even though she was far from being ready. They sent her home to die because the insurance ran out.
They are complete bastards for doing that. They probably have a list of excuses so they can keep getting away with letting suicidal people out without any concerns for their safety.
I was in a long term state hospital for 9 months. The hospital traumatized mean. 3 weeks after being released I stole medication that wasn't mine and tried to overdose. My mom found me not feeling good because my blood pressure was dropping quickly. I ended up back in the hospital and I ended up going to a long term residential treatment facility. The residential saved my life. The people there were kind and listened to me as best as they could. I also did not make it easy for them as I was afraid of trusting new people. I was there for 2 years and 7 months. I graduated high school thanks to them. I'm now enrolled in a program to become a veterinary assistant.
Part of the reason this happens is because people working in these fields are not competent. They just need a paycheck so they go to work everyday, do what they have to im order to get through the day, collect their paycheck and it continues on from there. They probably couldn't even tell you 10 patients names. But when visitors come they act likr thry have it all together and hope no one finds out. And that happens in a lot of places unfortunately.
I don’t understand why there was a gun in the home?
It’s not just mental health that fails but also law enforcement the justice system and veterinary care services same thing with foster care for help it’s all the same cycle keep your loved ones close by listen to them and help them as much the world is corrupt
That hospital should be sanctioned or something and whoever signed off on his release, whoever told his mother she'd be charged with child abandonment if she didn't pick him up that day, should be terminated and the doctor perhaps should be charged with negligent homicide or wanton endangerment. That's just my opinion.
I'm sorry for your loss. Prayers sent 🙏
This is so sad🥺
The USA really needs to improve the mental health system.
Australia too. Our psych wards are filth, run by the most disgusting abusers.
@Thegingerbreadm4ni approve we have the worst helth care you have to have a doctor in the family and you can get it all free
Everyone failed him. My mental hospital will not let you leave even if you say you're doing good. This mental hospital let him go despite him saying he was doing bad.
Thats so messed up. How sad... That poor kid.
System sadly is broken I have ptsd cause of places I was sent to was assaulted etc you name it don’t feel safe ever reaching out for help again.
So sad 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿for his mom
so sad,God love him.
how did this kid get his hands on a gun the moment he got out of a psych ward when he's telling people this stuff? nobody thought to tell granny to put the strap up before the kid that wants to die comes home clearly all the guns where not locked up and accounted for if he was able to find and hide one and not to mention how do you not notice your own gun is missing idk i think the shit could have been avoided but it might just be me rip
Look above☝☝ the mom posted that they had no idea he had a hidden gun. But I agree. How could they NOT check EVERY nook & cranny to make sure he did not have a gun? I don't get it. But I do know if not for the gun, he Wouldve done it some other way. Knives , rope, etc
Honestly I probably would have done the same thing.
Please pray
The system totally failed him. But these hospitals are completely overwhelmed by millions of suicidal Americans everyday, all of whom have threatened self-harm. It's impossible to give each patient the real care they need, generally they are out of the hospital in 5 days because thats what the insurance will cover. I used to drive an ambulance in las vegas and 20% of all calls are people threatening self harm. Doesnt help that half the patients are homeless and just trying to get a room and food.
No one listens. People don’t care at all.
Grady Heath System in Atlanta, GA had failed me so many giving times when I trying so hard to get someone to understand my sad situations when I requested help they too busy with other gimmicks nonsense I feel sad for this young man my prayers and condolences go out for the families
Im so sorry for your loss
This poor child definitely had everything ahead of him in life!!! The world was his. This is painful to watch 😔 💔
My mom committed suicide when I was a Sophomore in high school & it still affects me today and I'm 46 years old.
Why would you still give him access to firearms. I'm not saying it's someone else's fault. But if he lready held a gun to his head, and said I wish I pulled the trigger. Wouldn't you remove the guns from the home?
Why did the boy want to end his life? What did he say about that? I ask because we don't know if this was a mental health issue only or a life issue or both. I am very sorry to John's entire family for your tragic loss of such a nice young man. Sometimes there may not be an answer and that's really hard to deal with.
I bet it was the insurance that made him leave.
It most likely was. I was in a psych ward in my early 20’s and they would make people leave who clearly needed help because of insurance issues
Rip that teenager 😢😢😢
Its all about money. Money. Love capitalism. Life sucks no one wants to live in this system. Next
Well it was a Christian institution
I get your point!!!!💯%
💯
I had a good friend who was released because her insurance ran out. Her parents rushed to get her in a new hospital but she had committed suicide the night she was kicked out.
I’m sorry for ur loss I know how depression and suicide is hard cuz … but I’m sorry
Wow this is horrible
Dude I tried suicide 2 times and been locked up for it don’t worry Jesus is with you we are all gods children! This boy is in heaven with with Jesus don’t worry 😉
Insurance stopped paying
CMH NEEDS TO GET GUTTED OUT THEN REBUILT THE CORRECT WAY
MICHIGAN IS LAST ON MENTAL HEALTH THAT'S NOT GOOD
Brought him to a home with a gun??😞
He should have been kept in there longer.
this happened to me but i survived the attempt
He finally got fed up and said to staff so he could get out and then he would kill himself so sad that he felt this way thier were warning signs and the staff failed him repeadietly at that point aperson like this kid finally finds a way to do what they really want and isbto die butbthey dont actually want that i wish his mom would have just had him stay with here instead of his grandmothers house. After being away so long he needed his mom it is not her fault but i could never just let my son stay over at a realitives like in his situation and not be right by his side with this kind of condition and feelings that were like a yo yoi would of kept him closer to me know matter what it took so sad i feel her pain and understand it i wish her the best and will pray for her for peace 5:09
Where did he get the gun
Bond in the amount of corporate hedge fund donations. Next.
Deep down, I feel like his mom should’ve kept him around and show him a little more love like if he was a little kid again… one mistake and misdemeanor does not mean anything to treat to kick somebody to there grandmas house ,🏡 Deep down, he probably knew she was gonna go to heaven soon, and he might as well stay close to someone that cares for him 😔😔😔 people need to think better for their kids or pick better situations and better options😔😞
So you’re blaming his mother?
I went to the hospital cuz i was suicidal they i was fine and sended me home at the end of the day so i end up overdosing myself and i woke up back in the hospital so ya they put me in a mental hospital after wards
I’m listening 👂
I was at A psych ward also scary
"im gonna kill myself"
"nuh uh"
Their need for a gun outweighed their love for John. I have never felt the need to own a gun. Give your firearms away to the police department if someone in your family is thinking bad thoughts, otherwise, dont ask "why"
😢
shit happens. but i know we live in the age where we blame others for our mishaps.
The Lord works in mysterious ways. We don't always understand His master plan, but He does everything for a reason.
You just have to have faith.
He he he he.....wtf he’s not an adult
Parents need to step up! N start parenting
@Kevdawg Sutton III% Pro Gun-Rights Activist sometimes they can do everything and its still doesnt help, its hard too keep going, too someone like us, sometimes a "itll get better" wont help, therapy wont help, institutionalization and self/prescribed medicating or taking your own life is what does. Its the sad truth that sometimes you cant save everyone. However in this case he told em they just aint listen, the amount of people who are severely suffering from this will only say they will do it but dont, sometimes just sometimes you get that one thats genuine
@Kevdawg Sutton III% Pro Gun-Rights Activist even then being prescribed something doesnt mean youll take it. But the best way too tell if someone is serious about killing themselves (cause its hard too tell if they cry) how normal and frank about it are they talking, are they real happy out of nowhere, as someone whose tried it and working on himself(if i succeed and grow as a person only time will tell) im very frank with my own death and mortality, if someone is talking about it like its just some normal everyday shit and is the one not making a big deal over it, chances are that nigga actually crazy and might do it
Bnice Hi. I am John’s mom. I can assure you that we did EVERYTHING possible to help my son. It saddens me that you laugh but that also tells me you have never dealt with tragedy such as this. I hope you never have to live this nightmare. I promise you won’t find it funny. John was an amazing soul who put everyone before himself. He was being watched and it took a split second for his grandmother to go get a glass of water and he pulled the trigger. We had no idea he had a hidden gun. All guns were locked up and accounted for just like they asked us to ensure. He went to my moms because they were close and we thought it would be a good decompression time for him as he had two younger siblings at home. I shared his story to raise awareness and hopefully get mental health care reformed so no one else has to endure this pain. Please instead of being negative share his story so that it makes a difference for future patients.
Michelle Burt I’m sorry for your loss.
what a lucky bastard
😂 bro has a gun before he has a car... L country