Disagree. After seeing a few dozen pics of the new one, the frame around the previous radiator looks way out of place. But I do like the old cylinder heads better. On balance, I like the looks of the new one much better.
@@KenOtwellit’s a mixed bag. The radiator looks like a tombstone on the old one. But the cylinder heads are more striking. At least from pictures, the rocker covers look plastic on the new generation. I’d give the edge to the older Scout and Scout bobber, especially when you factor in price. The new Scout 101 looks great though as does the Sport Scout.
I rode a 2025 last weekend. Wow. Power is surprising. The 60 lineup should get some changes down the line. I agree if you’re happy with what you have keep it always. For the new ones to the scout market. The new one is a beast. It doesn’t sound like a lot but the feel is crazy different in the midrange and low end. With more carry at the top. I would say go ride one when you get the chance.
I have been looking into getting a Scout Bobber as my first motorcycle, but with these new releases I’m wondering if they would still be suitable for beginner riders. I’ve heard the previous Scouts have less power in the lower rpm range, which would make it somewhat manageable for a beginner. I’m curious to know if you think that’s still the case in your own opinion. For what it’s worth, I’m fully planning on taking it easy on my first bike until I gain more experience and confidence, but I also want a bike that I can grow into and keep around instead of getting tired of it within a few months and having to upgrade to something bigger.
@@2ES5 if you get one with ride modes as an option that could help. In rain mode it could help with throttle control and power management until you feel comfortable enough. The previous gen had a very friendly throttle response for beginners and the power band didn’t really kick in until higher in the rpm range. I’m not sure how the new scouts are set up
@@IronBornRider thank you for the info, I will definitely look into the ride mode options. I’ve seen so many positive reviews (and negative) about these bikes and the way they look always keeps calling me back when I check out other bikes lol. Thanks again man
@IronBornRider ... I agree with most of your comments - especially the the deleting of chrome engine highlights is a backward step - too dowdy! ... I also think the new colour schemes are a real backward step and a restriction of choice - Especially the dropping of the Icon colourways with the Indian Head logo - It made the Scout more special - Now it looks more Harley like...
Test rode all the new models as well as the outgoing rogue, rogue 60 and bobber... also the sport chief The new lineup is better on the road in every way and the 101 is absolutely going into my garage. The girlfriend preferred the outgoing rogue simply for the miniapes being more comfortable than the risers
Just ordered a 25 sport, test drove everything I could when the truck came by, decided that I wanted to go with the 25 over the 24 scouts just because of how different they are to the 24s
I just got back from an Indian demo and tried out the new scout bobber. It’s a good improvement, and the one I tested had the ride command which was nice to have on a small bike
So I'm not upgrading. But the addition of so many options and that everything is interchangeable got me to put an order down for a 2025. I do like the dual exhaust over the new one though.
I wish but I hate the jugs sticking out the side. I love goldwings the r12 doesn't look horrible. I LOVE the r18 except the crank case right in the center I wish they made that smaller or did something different
I 100% think the new scout looks just as good as the old one. If not a little better. But I think if it's a flop or not will come down to when people get them on a dyno and crack into the computer. Who knows with that high compression 1250 it could make 120 pretty easy. We know the current scout make about 10-20hp with a tune and or bolt ons. I've heard that the extra 5hp in the 101 is just a tune difference. From Indian nothing internal that's different. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if a the new scout hits 110-120 wheel with a tune and or bolt ons. Hey maybe even more than that. But I think realistically. 125 wheel is probably where it will land with intake exhaust and tune. And good fuel. I definitely Wana ditch my 2017 scout classic for a scout 101 but its far to expensive I may try and get a basic bobber and toss stuff in here and there. There are a couple of things I really like obviously the fuel gauge. But not as much as better highway bars the current scout is garbage in that front the higher redline stock (it's 9k now Instead of 8300) . There are things I really want to add to my 2017 but why would I spend tons of money on a bike that's older and slower. The Cruze control keyless ignition and fuel gauge are enough to sell me. (Yes you can get two of the three in the old scout but at $500 for keyless and Cruzer control it's not worth it to me) The scout 101 with the scout classic fenders would be the perfect bike for me. Especially in matt white
They did a good job with it, but I still like my scout bobber 20. I wouldn’t mind having ride command and the upgraded suspension and inverted forks and stuff on the 101. The 101 would be my choice if I upgraded.
@@IronBornRider one of the things i love about the Indian models (both older and newer) are that they are all gorgeous bike and there are looks for so many tastes.
I would change my bike, i'm looking for a super scout because if we watch cost-benedict the super scout already have 2 passengers, bags and windshield. Should i take it or is anyway better the 101?
I have a '23 Bobber 20 and I agree with everything you said, especially your comments on the engine design. They turned the entire engine compartment into a black hole of nothingness. The base model is a Bobber that's $15.6k for the Limited + tech model. Including upgrades to make it more like the Bobber 20 with the laced wheels and mini-apes would push the cost up into the Chief range. If I do upgrade someday, it will be to the Chief Bobber Darkhorse. It would make more sense financially.
I love the chief but it doesn't have the engine the scout has. Only going to 5k vs 8-9k on the scout is the main difference. Totally different way to ride.
This version has too many things. I am a big fan of the industrial bare looks, this one has too many bubbles and unnecessary curves in my opinion. The fuel gauge things is awesome though, I wonder if it will be compatible with older scouts?
I had a Scout bobber 2019 and I traded it in a Springfield Dark Horse 2021 - And now I'm thinking of going back to the Scout. Is it worth upgrading? I say YES. Fit, finish, quality, tech and not least: WE the customers asked for this - AND Indian Motorcycle delivered. - Hear the world's biggest and most important motorcycle "newspaper" MCN's Chief Road Tester, Michael Neeves give his in-depth, expert verdict on the wonderful new 101 Indian Motorcycle Scout : th-cam.com/video/UMLLNTa2SwM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=V41eEw1P558pLExA - Need less to say : I think Indian Motorcycle kicked it out of the ballpark with the new Scouts. I absolutely love them, and with a new S&S pipe... I am going for one!
i don't like loud pipes ,,, but those on yours are great looking ;; the new tech doesn't actually do anything does it ?? no point in trading in for that reason ;;';
I disagree that the Scout is an "entry level" bike. Not everyone wants an 800 lb cruiser, some are very happy with a very powerful, 550 lb "naked cruiser" that handles really well on the both twisties and the freeway. The Scout, especially the 101, is an aspirational bike, not a stepping stone.
It’s a little bit of both. The scout 60 is entry level for a lot of people and it’s the least expensive bike that Indian sells. Many people start on a scout and decide to move up to bigger bikes. But yes you are right, not everyone wants a 700-800lb bike.
Yep - I wasn't thinking about the 60. I guess if you're only shopping cruiser, that would be entry level. But most of us start on small Japanese bikes as kids and work up to our aspirational bike, which is the Scout in my case.
It's not a Polaris, it's an Indian. Indian is run independently from Polaris in the same way that Marvel and Lucasfilm are run as independent companies from Disney.
I agree, the old scout looks better than new ones IMO.
Agree 💯
Disagree. After seeing a few dozen pics of the new one, the frame around the previous radiator looks way out of place. But I do like the old cylinder heads better. On balance, I like the looks of the new one much better.
@@KenOtwell I agree with you, the new ones look amazing, especially the 101.
@@KenOtwellit’s a mixed bag. The radiator looks like a tombstone on the old one. But the cylinder heads are more striking. At least from pictures, the rocker covers look plastic on the new generation. I’d give the edge to the older Scout and Scout bobber, especially when you factor in price. The new Scout 101 looks great though as does the Sport Scout.
Or not…
Thank you so much for sharing your video I totally agree with you I have a 2018 Scout Bobber absolutely love the way it looks
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it!
I rode a 2025 last weekend.
Wow. Power is surprising. The 60 lineup should get some changes down the line.
I agree if you’re happy with what you have keep it always. For the new ones to the scout market. The new one is a beast. It doesn’t sound like a lot but the feel is crazy different in the midrange and low end. With more carry at the top.
I would say go ride one when you get the chance.
I’m definitely going to test them out when the demo truck rolls through
I have been looking into getting a Scout Bobber as my first motorcycle, but with these new releases I’m wondering if they would still be suitable for beginner riders.
I’ve heard the previous Scouts have less power in the lower rpm range, which would make it somewhat manageable for a beginner. I’m curious to know if you think that’s still the case in your own opinion.
For what it’s worth, I’m fully planning on taking it easy on my first bike until I gain more experience and confidence, but I also want a bike that I can grow into and keep around instead of getting tired of it within a few months and having to upgrade to something bigger.
@@2ES5 if you get one with ride modes as an option that could help. In rain mode it could help with throttle control and power management until you feel comfortable enough. The previous gen had a very friendly throttle response for beginners and the power band didn’t really kick in until higher in the rpm range. I’m not sure how the new scouts are set up
@@IronBornRider thank you for the info, I will definitely look into the ride mode options. I’ve seen so many positive reviews (and negative) about these bikes and the way they look always keeps calling me back when I check out other bikes lol. Thanks again man
@IronBornRider ... I agree with most of your comments - especially the the deleting of chrome engine highlights is a backward step - too dowdy! ... I also think the new colour schemes are a real backward step and a restriction of choice - Especially the dropping of the Icon colourways with the Indian Head logo - It made the Scout more special - Now it looks more Harley like...
Yeah I definitely like the older designs a bit better, but I guess that’s the direction a lot of companies re going
Test rode all the new models as well as the outgoing rogue, rogue 60 and bobber... also the sport chief
The new lineup is better on the road in every way and the 101 is absolutely going into my garage. The girlfriend preferred the outgoing rogue simply for the miniapes being more comfortable than the risers
The 101 would be my choice too. They did a great job on that model
Just ordered a 25 sport, test drove everything I could when the truck came by, decided that I wanted to go with the 25 over the 24 scouts just because of how different they are to the 24s
I just got back from an Indian demo and tried out the new scout bobber. It’s a good improvement, and the one I tested had the ride command which was nice to have on a small bike
Id love older scout 2016 silver clsssic style if they had more tech and features.
So I'm not upgrading. But the addition of so many options and that everything is interchangeable got me to put an order down for a 2025.
I do like the dual exhaust over the new one though.
Did they say when you might expect to see them at dealers? As much as I say I don’t want to upgrade, the scout 101 has my attention at the moment
@@IronBornRider My dealer said he was told starting around the end of May. But he also said what he actually expects, is September. 😬
@@RobDaKid87 damn that’s a long wait if it’s September but worth the wait I’m sure
People should also look into the bmw r12
I wish but I hate the jugs sticking out the side. I love goldwings the r12 doesn't look horrible. I LOVE the r18 except the crank case right in the center I wish they made that smaller or did something different
I 100% think the new scout looks just as good as the old one. If not a little better. But I think if it's a flop or not will come down to when people get them on a dyno and crack into the computer. Who knows with that high compression 1250 it could make 120 pretty easy. We know the current scout make about 10-20hp with a tune and or bolt ons.
I've heard that the extra 5hp in the 101 is just a tune difference. From Indian nothing internal that's different. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if a the new scout hits 110-120 wheel with a tune and or bolt ons. Hey maybe even more than that. But I think realistically. 125 wheel is probably where it will land with intake exhaust and tune. And good fuel.
I definitely Wana ditch my 2017 scout classic for a scout 101 but its far to expensive I may try and get a basic bobber and toss stuff in here and there. There are a couple of things I really like obviously the fuel gauge. But not as much as better highway bars the current scout is garbage in that front the higher redline stock (it's 9k now Instead of 8300) . There are things I really want to add to my 2017 but why would I spend tons of money on a bike that's older and slower. The Cruze control keyless ignition and fuel gauge are enough to sell me. (Yes you can get two of the three in the old scout but at $500 for keyless and Cruzer control it's not worth it to me)
The scout 101 with the scout classic fenders would be the perfect bike for me. Especially in matt white
They did a good job with it, but I still like my scout bobber 20. I wouldn’t mind having ride command and the upgraded suspension and inverted forks and stuff on the 101. The 101 would be my choice if I upgraded.
I love the look of the new scouts as well, that 101 looks incredible.
The 101 does look fantastic. Great paint job
@@IronBornRider one of the things i love about the Indian models (both older and newer) are that they are all gorgeous bike and there are looks for so many tastes.
I still got a year left on my loan for my 2016 scout. I'll probably decide when my loan ends and have some money saved up
You could keep the scout and get another!
My opinion is if you really like scouts, worths to go for the Scout 101.
Why?
Just look suspensions, fairing, brakes...etc..
Yeah if I were to upgrade I’d go all out and get the 101.
I would change my bike, i'm looking for a super scout because if we watch cost-benedict the super scout already have 2 passengers, bags and windshield. Should i take it or is anyway better the 101?
I… just don’t like it. The bobber is still the best looking one. Wouldn’t get a scout for long trips anyway.
@@manueltessari8720 it’s the most versatile scout out of the box. But you may find that you still want more room/comfort/storage.
I have a '23 Bobber 20 and I agree with everything you said, especially your comments on the engine design. They turned the entire engine compartment into a black hole of nothingness. The base model is a Bobber that's $15.6k for the Limited + tech model. Including upgrades to make it more like the Bobber 20 with the laced wheels and mini-apes would push the cost up into the Chief range. If I do upgrade someday, it will be to the Chief Bobber Darkhorse. It would make more sense financially.
The engine is the heart of the motorcycle and we want to see all the intricacies, not just a black box.
I love the chief but it doesn't have the engine the scout has. Only going to 5k vs 8-9k on the scout is the main difference. Totally different way to ride.
This version has too many things. I am a big fan of the industrial bare looks, this one has too many bubbles and unnecessary curves in my opinion. The fuel gauge things is awesome though, I wonder if it will be compatible with older scouts?
It would be very cool if it was backwards compatible but I’m guessing Indian would rather have people upgrade
I had a Scout bobber 2019 and I traded it in a Springfield Dark Horse 2021 - And now I'm thinking of going back to the Scout. Is it worth upgrading? I say YES. Fit, finish, quality, tech and not least: WE the customers asked for this - AND Indian Motorcycle delivered. - Hear the world's biggest and most important motorcycle "newspaper" MCN's Chief Road Tester, Michael Neeves give his in-depth, expert verdict on the wonderful new 101 Indian Motorcycle Scout : th-cam.com/video/UMLLNTa2SwM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=V41eEw1P558pLExA - Need less to say : I think Indian Motorcycle kicked it out of the ballpark with the new Scouts. I absolutely love them, and with a new S&S pipe... I am going for one!
I hear that the scout 101 feels noticeably different vs the other 4. Could be a good move
I think if people have to scout sixty for a while it might be worth the upgrade
Yeah then it would make sense to upgrade for sure
What’s that go pro mount that you have?
It’s from a company called pgytech
I want those gloves.
Thrashin supply!
Wish I can afford one..old or new.
They’re expensive for sure but worth every penny
Bro those gloves...I need em
Thrashin supply my good man
i agree. the only thing that looks better on the new scout is the radiator. other than that, the new ones look less like a classic old school bike
Yeah it’s not my cup of tea either
i don't like loud pipes ,,, but those on yours are great looking ;; the new tech doesn't actually do anything does it ?? no point in trading in for that reason ;;';
The new tech adds cruise control, ride modes, gps and etc. would definitely like to have that
I disagree that the Scout is an "entry level" bike. Not everyone wants an 800 lb cruiser, some are very happy with a very powerful, 550 lb "naked cruiser" that handles really well on the both twisties and the freeway. The Scout, especially the 101, is an aspirational bike, not a stepping stone.
It’s a little bit of both. The scout 60 is entry level for a lot of people and it’s the least expensive bike that Indian sells. Many people start on a scout and decide to move up to bigger bikes. But yes you are right, not everyone wants a 700-800lb bike.
Yep - I wasn't thinking about the 60. I guess if you're only shopping cruiser, that would be entry level. But most of us start on small Japanese bikes as kids and work up to our aspirational bike, which is the Scout in my case.
it's nice , but it's a water cooled polaris ,,,, slightly different to the harleys ;; but - to me harley have lost their way big time ;;;
Agree. It’s nice to have options
It's not a Polaris, it's an Indian. Indian is run independently from Polaris in the same way that Marvel and Lucasfilm are run as independent companies from Disney.
@@DonMachado just curious is there a source you can cite? Would love to learn about this
@@DonMachado yes, the indian bikes here in the uk seem ok , but polaris items sold here are junk , indian have come a long way ,, harley have not ;;