Ashaii histories said that the Valyrians received the power to ride dragons from a people so ancient they had no name. The Children of the Forest are known by this name because, according to the Bran chapters in ADWD, their name in their own tongue is too long and unpronounceable for the common tongue. If we go with the theory that the Show suggests, that the Children brought forth The Others (a 'song of ice perhaps) to combat the encroachment of humanity, and became threatened by them instead; it could be that the Children in Essos sought a similar solution to problems of their enemies, by giving the Valyrians the power to ride dragons, and likewise this backfired on them (no pun intended).
There is something with the Valaryons. They made a pact with the Merlings, Squishers, or Deep Ones, whatever you want to call them. We know that there is life after death in this story. I think not just the weirwoods, but water as well could hold a human spirit. The children could go into the streems. The Others are frozen water. The ironborn, Tullys and Roynar have similar after life beliefs
Do you think there could be a connection between Targs, song, and dreams? My main point is that we know Rheagar had lots of dragon dreams, and it was mentioned that his song (Jenny of Oldstones) at Harrenhall brought Lyanna to tears.
Songs must be important, all the important events are made into songs and we do have a bunch of lyrics or even whole songs. So, they are definitely important.
@@CompanyOfTheCat Unrelated, but I was looking through the ASOIAF Wiki at work and the Rhoynar's version of the Longnight ends when The Azor Ahai stand in convinces the Crab King and the Old Man of the River to come together in song, so I definitely think your song theory is super sound (pun intended!).
@@CompanyOfTheCat Something else I noticed. I think anyway. This is definitely fire magic. All the Targaryens who tried and failed to revive dragons all had had eggs in their youth. Somehow, they ruined the spell by that. Dany did not. What thinkest thou?
Doesn't it make more sense that the Valyrians are the result of experiments between wargs, wyverns, and firewyrms by the Bloodstone Emperor. The black stone is in Westeros so they've been there in the past. Maybe the First Men originally fled to Westeros to escape and were followed. The Others were created by the Children and the First Men to combat the dragons and their controllers. Blood and Fire seems to be literal, makes sense that Blood of the Dragon is also literal.
Amazing video as ever. I wonder, is there nothing to say about the Rhoynars water magic? Not that it must be within the scope of this theory, but i dont think i ever heard anything about that water magic beyond what i read about in the books which seems weird to me because i listen to many podcasts about the series, and your videos are much more magic and history oriented.
I was thinking of a video about Rhoynars, but I want to put some extra historical events because otherwise, will be very small and nothing crazy either, bc we have very little info about them sadly. We have some very interesting stuff about their magic and myths, but they aren't that much. Glad you like the video, thanks for watching!
No blood = no magic doesn't seem quite right. Skinchangers don't need to kill anyone for their abilities. Only blood and maybe fire magic should require some type of sacrifice to fuel it.
All magic requires blood, your blood or your ancestors' blood, doesn't matter, blood is necessary, it's also what I want to talk about in my next video, that First Men's powers are not blood free, at all. Even the Children of the Forest, even the skinchangers. And they did sing. They sang in True Tongue, so Bran could not understand the words, but their voices were as pure as winter air. "Where are the rest of you?" Bran asked Leaf, once. "Gone down into the earth," she answered. "Into the stones, into the trees. Before the First Men came all this land that you call Westeros was home to us, yet even in those days we were few. *The gods gave us long lives but not great numbers*, lest we overrun the world as deer will overrun a wood where there are no wolves to hunt them. - A Dance with Dragons - Bran III Magic has a price even for them, less of their kind, less of their blood. First Med made sacrifices to their trees, they have *heart* trees, "blood and bone like a heart tree", weirwoods with the faces of the family members. Blood magic is involved maybe they don't kill to be able to skinchange every time, but blood magic was involved for them to acquire the powers in the first place and have magical bloodlines. The skinchanging above the wall isn't hereditary, they can't have magical kids, and most of their parents were not magical, it is just random people with the gift, their blood cannot continue or at least cannot continue being magical, it is a form of sacrifice, Varamyr tried and tried but he couldn't, many of them, again like Varamyr, were sickly and not in a good physical condition another sacrifice. Blood sacrifice doesn't always mean direct killing and using the blood, Stannis did blood sacrifice with his seed, the Nigh't King gave his seed, and the people in the House of B&W cannot have kids, blood means family as well, kids, and kin, not only the direct things we see Mel do with actual blood.
@@CompanyOfTheCat ah I see. Regarding the heart trees, since you theorize that the weirwoods are wighted oaks, it actually makes a ton of sense that when you bury your family members next to these creepy vampire trees they in turn bestow upon your new children skinchanging. So the weirwoods then, and by extension *the place where you're born*, are too responsible for skinchanger bloodlines, and not just the parents of the skinchanger?
@@afreyinthesnow9015 the first one created the problems that would lead to the war with his complete disregard for women and his daughters. The second did fine and just had to deal with siblings that just hated each other so much they through the Kingdom into endless civil wars.
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Ashaii histories said that the Valyrians received the power to ride dragons from a people so ancient they had no name. The Children of the Forest are known by this name because, according to the Bran chapters in ADWD, their name in their own tongue is too long and unpronounceable for the common tongue.
If we go with the theory that the Show suggests, that the Children brought forth The Others (a 'song of ice perhaps) to combat the encroachment of humanity, and became threatened by them instead; it could be that the Children in Essos sought a similar solution to problems of their enemies, by giving the Valyrians the power to ride dragons, and likewise this backfired on them (no pun intended).
That's plausible 🤔
There is something with the Valaryons. They made a pact with the Merlings, Squishers, or Deep Ones, whatever you want to call them. We know that there is life after death in this story. I think not just the weirwoods, but water as well could hold a human spirit. The children could go into the streems. The Others are frozen water. The ironborn, Tullys and Roynar have similar after life beliefs
Yeah, Velaryons is a very weird situation and I am gonna do a whole video at some point, bc they do have some pretty wtf stories around them.
@@CompanyOfTheCat They are Seahorses-seasnakes-seadragons.
Do you think there could be a connection between Targs, song, and dreams? My main point is that we know Rheagar had lots of dragon dreams, and it was mentioned that his song (Jenny of Oldstones) at Harrenhall brought Lyanna to tears.
Songs must be important, all the important events are made into songs and we do have a bunch of lyrics or even whole songs. So, they are definitely important.
@@CompanyOfTheCat Unrelated, but I was looking through the ASOIAF Wiki at work and the Rhoynar's version of the Longnight ends when The Azor Ahai stand in convinces the Crab King and the Old Man of the River to come together in song, so I definitely think your song theory is super sound (pun intended!).
@@CompanyOfTheCat Something else I noticed. I think anyway. This is definitely fire magic. All the Targaryens who tried and failed to revive dragons all had had eggs in their youth. Somehow, they ruined the spell by that. Dany did not. What thinkest thou?
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Fire magic probably
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Doesn't it make more sense that the Valyrians are the result of experiments between wargs, wyverns, and firewyrms by the Bloodstone Emperor.
The black stone is in Westeros so they've been there in the past. Maybe the First Men originally fled to Westeros to escape and were followed.
The Others were created by the Children and the First Men to combat the dragons and their controllers.
Blood and Fire seems to be literal, makes sense that Blood of the Dragon is also literal.
The bloodstone emperor who is only mentioned in a 2 paragraph myth from a place that is barely talked about in the texts? He probably didn't exist.
Amazing video as ever.
I wonder, is there nothing to say about the Rhoynars water magic?
Not that it must be within the scope of this theory, but i dont think i ever heard anything about that water magic beyond what i read about in the books which seems weird to me because i listen to many podcasts about the series, and your videos are much more magic and history oriented.
I was thinking of a video about Rhoynars, but I want to put some extra historical events because otherwise, will be very small and nothing crazy either, bc we have very little info about them sadly. We have some very interesting stuff about their magic and myths, but they aren't that much.
Glad you like the video, thanks for watching!
No blood = no magic doesn't seem quite right. Skinchangers don't need to kill anyone for their abilities. Only blood and maybe fire magic should require some type of sacrifice to fuel it.
All magic requires blood, your blood or your ancestors' blood, doesn't matter, blood is necessary, it's also what I want to talk about in my next video, that First Men's powers are not blood free, at all. Even the Children of the Forest, even the skinchangers.
And they did sing. They sang in True Tongue, so Bran could not understand the words, but their voices were as pure as winter air. "Where are the rest of you?" Bran asked Leaf, once.
"Gone down into the earth," she answered. "Into the stones, into the trees. Before the First Men came all this land that you call Westeros was home to us, yet even in those days we were few. *The gods gave us long lives but not great numbers*, lest we overrun the world as deer will overrun a wood where there are no wolves to hunt them.
- A Dance with Dragons - Bran III
Magic has a price even for them, less of their kind, less of their blood.
First Med made sacrifices to their trees, they have *heart* trees, "blood and bone like a heart tree", weirwoods with the faces of the family members. Blood magic is involved maybe they don't kill to be able to skinchange every time, but blood magic was involved for them to acquire the powers in the first place and have magical bloodlines. The skinchanging above the wall isn't hereditary, they can't have magical kids, and most of their parents were not magical, it is just random people with the gift, their blood cannot continue or at least cannot continue being magical, it is a form of sacrifice, Varamyr tried and tried but he couldn't, many of them, again like Varamyr, were sickly and not in a good physical condition another sacrifice. Blood sacrifice doesn't always mean direct killing and using the blood, Stannis did blood sacrifice with his seed, the Nigh't King gave his seed, and the people in the House of B&W cannot have kids, blood means family as well, kids, and kin, not only the direct things we see Mel do with actual blood.
@@CompanyOfTheCat ah I see. Regarding the heart trees, since you theorize that the weirwoods are wighted oaks, it actually makes a ton of sense that when you bury your family members next to these creepy vampire trees they in turn bestow upon your new children skinchanging. So the weirwoods then, and by extension *the place where you're born*, are too responsible for skinchanger bloodlines, and not just the parents of the skinchanger?
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no 😂
I liked it. ☝🤓
@@okdude8215 👁👄👁
Yeah, I thought he had a pretty good singing voice for a non-professional.
What's that beautiful accent?!
It sounds Greek 🤙
Because it is 😂
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@@CompanyOfTheCat I'm Canadian Greek so we read and write at a grade three level. Don't hate!!! 🤣
King Viserys is the most good and kind hearted Targaryn
One of the very few
So good and kind that his refusal and inability to make any decisions led to the strife in his family.
@@adventwolfbane That. Good person, for sure, not a good king though
I prefer jaehaerys the ii or daeron the good
@@afreyinthesnow9015 the first one created the problems that would lead to the war with his complete disregard for women and his daughters. The second did fine and just had to deal with siblings that just hated each other so much they through the Kingdom into endless civil wars.