Great as always Dave! Love your energy mate! We also love KR out here. They are both my lads fav SL team and seeing a few more KR shirts at their school now!
As a leigh fan, it wasnt a red, but no player told him to stay down,in fact Edwin wanted to get on with it, being hit with shoulder in the face, must hurt,then there is the hand on his face on the floor .He also went off with a hia later on. On another note dont they have sensors in the gum shield for force contact ?
Dave I’m literally one more of these ridiculous decisions away from turning my back on the game I’ve watched as a match going fan since 1990, I’m in agreement players need to be protected but Vaughan was not deliberately attacking the head there and a game was ruined as a spectacle after 11 mins!! Who wants to watch that ?? Really enjoy your channel .. (Mike P from the Greenwood days)
Sorry Dave, you're wrong that Trout was told to stay down. His head rocked back accidental or not. Burgess was hypocritical, when Thewliss clearly did stay down to try and milk a penalty / get an opponent sent off.
Burgess acted like a spoilt baby warrington had a player throwing a punch nothing said plus loads of other head shots but nothing to say about it then go back to the reverse fixture where the wire won with a winning try win latent knock on that he didn't comment on refs make mistakes you can't pick and choose which ones to highlight or be upset about
Red was maybe a bit harsh for me. But tbf Vaughan has no reason to go in with the shoulder there. No Leigh player tells trout to stay down, minutes later Lam gets pole axed and then a wire player runs in and hits lam high, more of a red than Vaughan for me. But Moore chickened out on that one. Thought the hughes yellow was harsh but then later got away with one that could’ve been a red too.
Agree Dave it was never a sending off and none of us North Stand Leopards thought it was. Yellow card, yes, red, never ever. However, I don't think Trout stayed down intentionally, he was hit with a shoulder to his chin. Jack Hughes yellow was also a wrong decision as the attacking player threw himself over head first as soon as he felt an arm on his leg. Maybe not as crucial in terms of the result but definitely crucial in terms of RL sorting itself out, maintaining the spectacle and only resorting to cards when absolutely necessary and justified.
I agree it was harsh but no Leigh player said anything to Trout, watch it back. Ipape is closest and he's waiting to play the ball. No Leigh player said anything.
Trout has the right to carry the ball in without getting a shoulder direct to the head. No bend in the back from Vaughan. Obvious red given the way the games been reffed this season.
The Laws of the Game serve to protect players from concussions and sub concussions caused by contact to the head of an opponent. Any contact with a player when effecting or attempting to effect a tackle makes contact with the head or neck of an opponent intentionally, recklessly or carelessly. Players have a duty to their opponents to operate within the Laws of the Game. The Laws of the Game strictly prohibit intentional, reckless or careless contact with the head and/or neck of an opponent. Any such contact shall be deemed Misconduct pursuant to law 15.1 (b). On the Field of Play, such offences result in a range of sanctions starting with on field penalty and going through to temporary or full dismiss Careless contact - guilty
Really feel like you have let yourself down with these comments, i agree it was a harsh red card but there was direct contact to the head from PV shoulder and current rules are awful, but to say people told him to stay down is just wrong, you can clearly see on the highlights not one person said anything to Trout at all but to call him out like that and as good as call him a cheat and not call out Thewliss out who did exactly the same thing on two occasions in the same game is disgraceful.
100%. You can't have balance without mentioning Thewlis who stayed down on far softer contacts, especially rhe Hanley trailing arm. Trout got a shoulder direct to the head from a kick off first tackle hit up, which are notoriously some of the toughest contacts in the game. It would be downright irresponsible not to give him a HIA in that situation. Only 2 weeks ago Trout took a very awkward cannonball challenge that Lafai got banned for at MW and played on straight away so it's not like he's that type of player to be feigning injury anyway.
Think you're a bit off with this one. It wasn't a red, but there was only 1 player (ipape) near Trout, and his mouth didn't move. No player/coach told him to stay down, and i don't think he 'stayed down' he copped one in the head.
Everybody - If you listen to my analysis I say there was talk of players telling him to stay down which is the basis of these remarks. Also I was very critical of Warrington fans after the sending off in terms of how they were shouting for every tackle to be a penalty/yellow or red. I stand by my analysis as always, just an opinion. Thank you as always for your support. Dave.
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Great as always Dave! Love your energy mate! We also love KR out here. They are both my lads fav SL team and seeing a few more KR shirts at their school now!
Probably wasn’t a red.
But Trout did not stay down on purpose. You have zero evidence of that.
As a leigh fan, it wasnt a red, but no player told him to stay down,in fact Edwin wanted to get on with it, being hit with shoulder in the face, must hurt,then there is the hand on his face on the floor .He also went off with a hia later on.
On another note dont they have sensors in the gum shield for force contact ?
Yes they have sensors
Dave I’m literally one more of these ridiculous decisions away from turning my back on the game I’ve watched as a match going fan since 1990, I’m in agreement players need to be protected but Vaughan was not deliberately attacking the head there and a game was ruined as a spectacle after 11 mins!! Who wants to watch that ?? Really enjoy your channel .. (Mike P from the Greenwood days)
Sorry Dave, you're wrong that Trout was told to stay down. His head rocked back accidental or not. Burgess was hypocritical, when Thewliss clearly did stay down to try and milk a penalty / get an opponent sent off.
Agree that there needs to a change re accidental collisions. Deliberate head shots are sending off. Accidental are.not. 😢
Burgess acted like a spoilt baby warrington had a player throwing a punch nothing said plus loads of other head shots but nothing to say about it then go back to the reverse fixture where the wire won with a winning try win latent knock on that he didn't comment on refs make mistakes you can't pick and choose which ones to highlight or be upset about
Red was maybe a bit harsh for me. But tbf Vaughan has no reason to go in with the shoulder there. No Leigh player tells trout to stay down, minutes later Lam gets pole axed and then a wire player runs in and hits lam high, more of a red than Vaughan for me. But Moore chickened out on that one. Thought the hughes yellow was harsh but then later got away with one that could’ve been a red too.
Agree Dave it was never a sending off and none of us North Stand Leopards thought it was. Yellow card, yes, red, never ever. However, I don't think Trout stayed down intentionally, he was hit with a shoulder to his chin. Jack Hughes yellow was also a wrong decision as the attacking player threw himself over head first as soon as he felt an arm on his leg. Maybe not as crucial in terms of the result but definitely crucial in terms of RL sorting itself out, maintaining the spectacle and only resorting to cards when absolutely necessary and justified.
I agree it was harsh but no Leigh player said anything to Trout, watch it back. Ipape is closest and he's waiting to play the ball. No Leigh player said anything.
Trout has the right to carry the ball in without getting a shoulder direct to the head. No bend in the back from Vaughan.
Obvious red given the way the games been reffed this season.
The Laws of the Game serve to protect players from concussions and sub concussions caused
by contact to the head of an opponent.
Any contact with a player when effecting or attempting to effect a tackle makes contact with
the head or neck of an opponent intentionally, recklessly or carelessly.
Players have a duty to their opponents to operate within the Laws of the Game.
The Laws of the Game strictly prohibit intentional, reckless or careless contact with the head
and/or neck of an opponent. Any such contact shall be deemed Misconduct pursuant to law
15.1 (b). On the Field of Play, such offences result in a range of sanctions starting with on
field penalty and going through to temporary or full dismiss
Careless contact - guilty
Really feel like you have let yourself down with these comments, i agree it was a harsh red card but there was direct contact to the head from PV shoulder and current rules are awful, but to say people told him to stay down is just wrong, you can clearly see on the highlights not one person said anything to Trout at all but to call him out like that and as good as call him a cheat and not call out Thewliss out who did exactly the same thing on two occasions in the same game is disgraceful.
100%. You can't have balance without mentioning Thewlis who stayed down on far softer contacts, especially rhe Hanley trailing arm. Trout got a shoulder direct to the head from a kick off first tackle hit up, which are notoriously some of the toughest contacts in the game. It would be downright irresponsible not to give him a HIA in that situation.
Only 2 weeks ago Trout took a very awkward cannonball challenge that Lafai got banned for at MW and played on straight away so it's not like he's that type of player to be feigning injury anyway.
Think you're a bit off with this one. It wasn't a red, but there was only 1 player (ipape) near Trout, and his mouth didn't move. No player/coach told him to stay down, and i don't think he 'stayed down' he copped one in the head.
Everybody - If you listen to my analysis I say there was talk of players telling him to stay down which is the basis of these remarks. Also I was very critical of Warrington fans after the sending off in terms of how they were shouting for every tackle to be a penalty/yellow or red. I stand by my analysis as always, just an opinion. Thank you as always for your support. Dave.