HiFiMan EF600 is an $800 DAC / AMP / Headphone Stand and is Exceptional at everything

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  • @ZReviews
    @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +3

    🟥EF600 -------- apos.audio/products/hifiman-ef600-desktop-dac-amp/?sca_ref=36221.ouwJgZltO5
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    • @darrellross8609
      @darrellross8609 ปีที่แล้ว

      @32discodave All I can send "Z" Is respect. D.

  • @MagnitudePerson
    @MagnitudePerson ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Haters gonna hate. But I love everything about the EF600, the Amp, the DAC; the sound. I tried an Hifiman Serenade, it lacked that awesome rumbly dynamic and very extended subbass. Sends chills down my spine whenever i hear my caldera, charybdis, and LCD 4 run through this thing. Very good synergy between its DAC and Amp too, which is praise on to itself imo.

  • @rockpapersniper5105
    @rockpapersniper5105 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just the fact it’s a stand is so awesome

  • @focaltrip
    @focaltrip ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I tried to demo this at London Canjam at the weekend . The unit had no volume when I commented the guy said it looks like the volume control has died. And I would have to come back while they swap it out. Good to see you there too Zeos

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone knobbed a bit too hard

  • @Masimo_Yovanni
    @Masimo_Yovanni 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At CanJam London you came to the Astell and Kern stand, I was sitting there listening to the SP3000. You came over, and picked up my DC Elite thinking it's CanJam's product. You didn't say anything to me, just picked up the Elite and said "oh this is a persons individual unit" then put it back down.
    I was like thats Zeos, but you never even noticed me. So I didnt say hi. 😂

  • @drummerkev1627
    @drummerkev1627 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zeos, your going to disagree with me I’m sure. But I haven’t visited your channel in a few years😢 and I see your new badass house! But in some small way I know you have to miss your old place where you built that badass tv on hydraulic arms that went up to the ceiling when you weren’t using it and of course I miss seeing Chewbacca in the background. Call me sentimental, but I watched you review so many speakers in that apartment or condo. Whatever it was I remember the walls being made of concrete weren’t they anyway I’m glad you’re still doing this!

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I miss the simple times. It was a cute little place. But renting forever is a bad move. Covid made me do it and I regret nothing. Also that hundred 104-inch screen that used to go up became 150-inch screen that still goes up just manually

  • @garethfuller2700
    @garethfuller2700 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hello! I hope you're doing well.
    I have some questions.
    1. Are you planning on doing an Arya Organic Review? (If so, would love a comparison against the HE1000 V2 Stealth, which is 1.4K on amazon right now)
    2. How would Arya Organics do with the EF600? (And would the EF600 be a good upgrade from an JDS Labs Element II?)
    Thank you for your time, and for what you do. Your recommendations helped me settle on HD 6XXs and my Element II back in 2021, which I love to pieces. (That being said, I've been eyeing the Arya Organics, and now, possibly the EF600...)

  • @mrk131324
    @mrk131324 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Stax SRM-310 amp also doubles as a stand. And I always wondered why nobody every did that design again.

  • @slee2054
    @slee2054 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video Ed.

  • @AlanHell080
    @AlanHell080 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am just here for the table mat~

  • @brendanliddell240
    @brendanliddell240 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Schiit's Mjolnir 3 has been released 😃 Really looking forward to that review.
    I've been waiting for that to be released to see if it might be a better fit for my Sennheiser HD800S, rather than a Woo Audio WA6-SE...

  • @garfythecat
    @garfythecat ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That volume knob on a $800 device is pretty ridiculous tbh.

    • @spamcan9208
      @spamcan9208 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not even sure it qualifies as a knob.

    • @ItsWhatever736
      @ItsWhatever736 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it'll cost me another 20, I'll take the wobbly knob anyday.

    • @spamcan9208
      @spamcan9208 ปีที่แล้ว

      @32discodave ayyyyy 😂 ba dum tss

    • @mikeg2491
      @mikeg2491 ปีที่แล้ว

      ⁠@@spamcan9208 not going to defend the cheap wobbly connection, but I will defend a rectangle knob in general because you are less likely to accidentally have it set to high unknowingly and blow your eardrums out.

    • @spamcan9208
      @spamcan9208 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikeg2491 I was just making a joke on definitions. As for its practicality, I can see that being one way to know volume level at a glance.

  • @PhoggHawk
    @PhoggHawk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved that amp at CanJam

  • @TheGreatMrBill
    @TheGreatMrBill ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That headphone must be ridiculous if you can't get full volume. They made that Dac to go with the Susvara too, which is one of the hardest to drive out there. It did drive my Susvara with enough volume but not with full quality. My EF600 was junk and I sent it back. The distortion rate of the Dac side of it was high. But the Amp side was great. Maybe mine was defective, but I couldn't get past the loose knob either. Disappointing.

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn that's sad to hear. And yes the tungsten's are the hardest headphones on Earth to drive. You need a amplifier that has extremely high gain biased towards voltage

  • @shutasanzhi1106
    @shutasanzhi1106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hifiman ef500 is coming!

  • @Sumpula
    @Sumpula ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Soo. When are we seeing the SMSL DL200 review. I looked into its specs and had to click buy without seeing any reviews anywhere yet. But im sure its worth it lol.

  • @nathanberger618
    @nathanberger618 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    People also can contact Mimic Audio for the EF600.

  • @darrellross8609
    @darrellross8609 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Z, Can you do a follow-up review. I'm not convinced it's not a "piece of junk". Best, D.

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well I moved it up to my office so I could use it more. It's too good to leave on a Shelf

  • @andreasschultze6644
    @andreasschultze6644 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd be delighted to watch your opinion on the new Hifiman DacAmps EF499 and EF500. Do you think it'll be possible to have a look on those and compare with Ef400 and Ef600? Thanks a lot!

    • @Masimo_Yovanni
      @Masimo_Yovanni 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      600 far superior.

  • @ericlafond3703
    @ericlafond3703 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please review the Serenade next!

  • @unravelpeng9565
    @unravelpeng9565 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and mouse pad zeos.
    But I suggest you should stop using EHA-5, there are some serious defect in EHA-5 circuit design may burn your electrostatic headphones.

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      And I've heard all the arguments and it basically comes down to if you overdrive anything on it like every other amplifier could damage something

  • @Themanthatisi
    @Themanthatisi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t buy anything that does not lay flat, it is just how my OCD works. I have the EF400 and EF5, I do love their products but no more upgrading with them until they make lay flat units again.

  • @d0nj03
    @d0nj03 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In all probability IF you've heard a difference between the NOS and the proper DAC configuration, it's the stupidly high amount of ultrasonics a (usually filter-less) NOS DAC lets through, which can create audible amounts of intermodulation distortion down in the audible band via aliasing. Or it could be an early-rolloff in the highs on the NOS, the other type of anti-fidelity that analogophiles really like.

  • @matthewhilty4209
    @matthewhilty4209 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder if an amp made for ribbon headphones would drive those modhouse headphones since those amps put out a ton of current.

  • @brandonburr4900
    @brandonburr4900 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a contrast to Josh valors of this unit which was kinda meh. So I will watch for more reviews. I believe arilic (same manufavters of Vega dac ) made a class a amp dac and headphone amp that was 2 watts of power out of ts xlr but was $2,000 new back in the day. Thanks for entertainment!

    • @ChrisStoneinator
      @ChrisStoneinator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zeos is a madman and Joshua Valor is deaf. I have never agreed with either of them on anything I've heard. I guess that's gonna change if I ever hear this!

    • @brandonburr4900
      @brandonburr4900 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChrisStoneinator when I first got into following all these reviewers back in the day I was more nieve but now it's just a form of entertainment. If most of these "reviewers` happen to align with options (which is rare) than that's just more data points for me if weather the hype is real or so done shilling product. So many shillers on you tube to get clicks, followers and a check rolling in make it another source of income. I have no issue with it. You just have to be able to sort the hype out from the shillers and try it for yourself.

    • @ChrisStoneinator
      @ChrisStoneinator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brandonburr4900 soooo much hype around way too many products. They can't ALL be that good, or there'd be nothing remarkable about any of them. I've heard most of the headphones that people rave over at every price point, most were hardly life changing and some were downright poor. Meze 109 sounded like utter shit and this guy was telling people that other headphones are unnecessary because Meze 109s exist. Then you've got The Headphone Show talking about frequency response this and soundstage that, as though they just learnt what those words mean and don't actually know anything about acoustics. I trust nothing I hear about headphones on TH-cam and nothing I read on Reddit. Only the HeadFi regulars seem to know what the fuck they're talking about.

  • @Viewer13128
    @Viewer13128 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Denefrips Ares II or Hifiman EF600 for sound?

    • @SpirallingOut
      @SpirallingOut ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ...or Ladder Schumann? Musician Pegasus? Gustard R26? MHDT Orchid? Sonnet Morpheus? Holo Spring 3? There's too many to choose from. We need a "Best R2R under 5 grand" video, Z.

  • @rogerhuston8287
    @rogerhuston8287 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I put an Amp on the floor like that, I would forget it was there and kill myself tripping over it.

  • @bezchlebalukas1779
    @bezchlebalukas1779 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi @ZReviews thanks for video, can you compare EF600 and Topping A90D + D90SE please? Is it heaven and dude or is comparable on same level? Thanks for answer

  • @anthonybertram1168
    @anthonybertram1168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should review the LCD-GX!

  • @leohanley5935
    @leohanley5935 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When is the organic review coming?

  • @alstonmaccow9386
    @alstonmaccow9386 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is $800 for that? The volume would wind me up

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and only slightly

  • @dgregory4178
    @dgregory4178 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonder how it compares to my RME ADI-2?

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      The New Balance one was the only other amplifier at canjam New York that I actually took a notice to the sound doing something better. Compared to this

  • @sheep7255
    @sheep7255 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tad unrelated, but where the HD660S2 review, are they so good you're still trying to see if it's better than the HD660S?

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My initial reaction to hearing them at New York canjam was that they wanted to add bass to the original design but instead of adding more bass they simply took away the mids and highs and it sounds lame

    • @sheep7255
      @sheep7255 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZReviews But you seem to be using them a lot, although I could be seeing wrong in that lighting

    • @BrunoLiraArraisMaia
      @BrunoLiraArraisMaia ปีที่แล้ว

      That's in fact the 660S1@@sheep7255

  • @waynewilmeth7755
    @waynewilmeth7755 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BUT it cannot play DSD, right? If so, that is a total deal breaker for me.

    • @ChrisStoneinator
      @ChrisStoneinator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The entire hi-fi world is sleeping on DSD so hard. I have some SACDs that sound literally perfect. LITERALLY perfect.

  • @masterazlan6999
    @masterazlan6999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmm.. I need R2 R but not dat big.. Fc6 will do.. peace butter!

  • @asuraKabuto
    @asuraKabuto 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how does ef400 sounds compare to this? In both scenarios: as dac/amp combo, or just as dac source?

  • @thierryfaquet7405
    @thierryfaquet7405 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    focal is making a dac/amp/stand too

  • @datdudeinred
    @datdudeinred ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it possible you could get your hands on latest fosi audio sk01 headphone amp? It has a battery too. & not to mention it's cheap

  • @higochumbo8932
    @higochumbo8932 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now they just need to create earpads that don't disintegrate after 1 year of use.

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And wires that don't absolutely SUUUUUUCK

    • @ChrisStoneinator
      @ChrisStoneinator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Problem is we're basically asking them to stop being Chinese.

  • @Reeeepicheep
    @Reeeepicheep ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did not like the DAC sound of the EF600. Where the EF400 had such warm magic and engagement, the EF600 was lacking in warmth, dynamics, and sounded kinda honky and papery. It had sparkly detail and soundstage but overall I preferred the tonality of the EF400.

    • @andreic5822
      @andreic5822 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did it happen to test the EF400 with Sennheiser HD660s ? I have them but found some review saying the EF400 sounds "meh" with Sennheiser.

  • @jeremysmith3556
    @jeremysmith3556 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey zeos, i just got some fostex t20rp mk3s and i have a micca origen+ and it sounds a little distorted on high gain 3/4 volume, is there a good strictly headphone amp you recommend for them?

    • @TheKachunga
      @TheKachunga ปีที่แล้ว

      Drop SMSL HO150X

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean those need a lot of power. Almost speaker amp power. You can get the amplifier a drop put out the A150x.

  • @larsv6144
    @larsv6144 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would the pre-outs be good enough to connect to the SMSL VMV A1 class A amplifier? (A1 has no pre amp)

  • @Dollarstored
    @Dollarstored 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Z I want to get these to be a preamp for some speakers do they still hold up after this time?

  • @endrizo
    @endrizo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    please review the ananda Nano

  • @gtaseed
    @gtaseed ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh noo, the monarch 3 review isn't up yet 😢 @ 20:25

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's scheduled for the 26th. I spread them out a little extra so I can go to London to cover Canjam

  • @Masimo_Yovanni
    @Masimo_Yovanni 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is why we should test ourselves. Goldensound pretty much poo poo'd all over this. You, on the other hand praise it.
    So who to believe? Try ourselves.

  • @TheBobby1kenobi
    @TheBobby1kenobi ปีที่แล้ว

    COULD I RUN A GOXLR THEN THIS ON MY CHAIN?

  • @1mouseman
    @1mouseman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Z is the polar opposite of Mr Rossman…

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't know who this is but that makes the mr. Rossman character an asshole. Clearly

  • @isthataprogenji4741
    @isthataprogenji4741 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the song at the start?

  • @sidethan
    @sidethan ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you review the hd660s2?

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      I've heard them at shows and I didn't like them enough to spend the money. I'm waiting for someone to offer me a set so I could just get the review done and return them

  • @jhuckabey1976
    @jhuckabey1976 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would one go EF600 instead of Rupert Neve Designs RNHP Precision Headphone Amp? Factor in already having DAC? Or not?
    Thanks!!

  • @swarontm6096
    @swarontm6096 ปีที่แล้ว

    song at the beginning of the video?

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely a Filter song I just can't recall the name

    • @swarontm6096
      @swarontm6096 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZReviews gonna dive through their discography to find it bc god it sounded so nice, thanks Z ✌

  • @larsv6144
    @larsv6144 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you connect the EF600's preouts to the SMSL VMV A1 (class A) power amplifier? The VMV A1 has a volume knob, so you can regulate volume, and as I understand the EF600 has no volume control on the outputs. Would it be possible to connect those two?

  • @DDD-jk5sh
    @DDD-jk5sh ปีที่แล้ว

    "Measure smooooooth?" hah. 00:12:00

    • @dennismanning6684
      @dennismanning6684 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Here a copy of my comment on another first look at the EF600:
      Just my $.02:
      I have Arya v2 (non stealth) and 2020 Sundara headphones. I had the EF400 and traded it in for the EF600 about a month ago. All are well burned in. The EF600 has two R2R DACs, a separate one for each fully balanced channel. I think the volume pot is the same one from the EF400, feels similarly loose and has a slight channel imbalance the first couple of degrees 0-3, like the 400. The less than premium feel is Not a functional issue tho and the bar style knob is easy to see where it's set. The other function switch is solid. I always use the balanced HP connectors but did try the SE front out which doesn't connect solidly with my Hart SE 1/4" cable...jiggle to get both channels...again Not an issue for me but is a ridiculous fail given the hi quality overall.
      Sound: Very immersive and beautiful...the Arya V2 does not ever put out that "over the top highs" it's noted for. Depending on the input (all via USBa, IMac, ripped CD's and up to 24/192 AIFF files) I use which ever Hi gain, Lo gain, OS, and NOS sounds best. I could be end game with the Arya right here, but...
      My reference system is the Arya on a MB AIR, or OPPO 83, I2s, Pontus 2, Jot 2 stack. This adds more air, separation, $$$'s, and nuance to the sound, but with the very occasional over-the-top treble.
      There are several more capabilities still to test on the EF600 but I'm very happy with it so far! And kudos to HiFiMan fro doing the trade up.

  • @MAK8299
    @MAK8299 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey zeos
    completely out of topic Q, have u seen RRR 2022 movie
    😅

  • @dartinbout5672
    @dartinbout5672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With all of the tech friends you reference, how come you can't manage to master Windows? Windows 7 is a nightmare for managing multiple sound sources. You have claimed many times to still be running this grossly out of date OS. Windows 10 stably runs multiple instances of ASIO. I've 10 ASIO sources and USB DAC's. I have headaches numbered in the zero's. It's just not that tough.

    • @HomeTheatre101
      @HomeTheatre101 ปีที่แล้ว

      Windows 7 isn’t really all that bad if you know how to work with it.

    • @dartinbout5672
      @dartinbout5672 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure, if you air gap it. Holding on to a grossly out of date Window's is like breast feeding, until you are 13, and still clinging to Mommy's saggy knockers.

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว

      This computer does three things. Run Foobar, occasionally open websites to look at, change wallpapers. It's been doing it since I started the channel and it'll do it until it dies.

    • @dartinbout5672
      @dartinbout5672 ปีที่แล้ว

      No shopping? No porn? No research? As famous as you are, you don't think you can be tracked, targeted and have an exploit aimed at you? You have amassed a huge amount of assets. Why risk that with an operating system as insecure as this. Your face, physical address has been frequently disclosed. You leave digital clues everywhere. Windows 7 is an open invitation to be breached. Don't take my word for it ask your tech support army for their opinion.@@ZReviews

  • @anirbansaha5162
    @anirbansaha5162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you want to sell ef 400

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I very well may. Keep an eye on the Yard Sale

    • @anirbansaha5162
      @anirbansaha5162 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZReviews surely

  • @larsv6144
    @larsv6144 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which headphone output sounds better, the EF600 or the SMSL VMV A1 power amp (that you also reviewed and liked)??

  • @dylancakes
    @dylancakes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this or a90/d90 stack

  • @m4nc1n1
    @m4nc1n1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Freaky

  • @drtydsh
    @drtydsh ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Ngl the little girls on that mouse pad are kinda weird

    • @Viewer13128
      @Viewer13128 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      how so?

    • @damauri
      @damauri ปีที่แล้ว +17

      They are characters from an Anime called the Quintessential Quintuplets. And it's pretty good.

    • @drtydsh
      @drtydsh ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @damauri ah gotcha, didn't know the show was catering to adult men. Your like button is officially a sus counter.

    • @tingo1111
      @tingo1111 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You sound like loads of fun

    • @YuhNinja
      @YuhNinja ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just fyi bro is definitely a loli, but he's open about it. SOOOOO he don't gaf

  • @XeonX__ASMR__METAL-experiments
    @XeonX__ASMR__METAL-experiments ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i don't like HIFIMAN
    i love HarmonicDyne!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!❤

  • @sidesup8286
    @sidesup8286 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If someone was interested in driving someone crazy, they could make someone listen to this guys videos. He stops in the middle of a sentence and goes off track to something else repeatedly and forgets his original thought and what he was in the middle of saying. He doodles around and keeps going off track, and more off trac into total irrelevance.Just really annoying. He should play back some of his videos and listen to what he does; and they also should be way shortened. Annoying to the nth degree. I am interested in headphones but just can't take it with this guy.

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I see you have had your first Zeos Experience. I recommend going through my catalogue of 1800 video dating back 10 years to see if it is the same throughout.
      Spoilers.. It will be.

  • @larsv6144
    @larsv6144 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The EF600 vs the SMSL VMV A1 (class A) + Denafrips Ares 2 dac ?? Anyone tried or any thoughts? Or maybe the EF500 ?

  • @larsv6144
    @larsv6144 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can the EF600 be used as a preamplifier for e.g. SMSL VMV A1 class A power amplifier? (which I own). And what headphone amplifier is better, the A1 or the EF600 ?

  • @Rocky-sn6fl
    @Rocky-sn6fl ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Let me guess...Zeos didn't pay for it, right?

    • @OfficialLeoEdits
      @OfficialLeoEdits ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When does he ever pay for anything😂

    • @ZReviews
      @ZReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If I had to pay for everything I reviewed in this channel I'd have to work 19 side jobs. I do have a wholehearted thanks to my patrons but they're only able to keep up the fucking mortgage payments and feeding me. I'd be reviewing $20 Iems everyday.