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FYI... HIGH & LOW Gain are select-able on the main unit w/o using the remote since firmware 2.3 (Press and rotate the volume button (at same time) UP/DOWN to select "H" or "L").
Got the boi after a month wait. Sounds great but I thought mine was gimped as I wasn't getting the full power. Turns out mine already had the limiter firmwared and I accidentally fiddled with that secret remote button beforehand. Good on you for mentioning those two things!
I picked up a discrete circuit headphone amp two years ago (Lake People G111) and haven't felt the need to get anything else. Powerful and natural sounding.
@Whammy it's only amp. Depending how you have your set up that's all you need but might be missing out on more higher end quality to your sound without a dac.
Listened to Zeos, Resolve, DMS, others. “Pointy”, edgy Zeos style sold me. Why, because his early comments if “ it’s just an amp, I usually listen for one hour, but this one 1,2, 5 F-ing hours!” That comment was so intriguing to me! Then I upgraded from A90, which I liked, new A90 D model ( in black). I then began to understand Zeos 5 f-hours comment. What he and then I found I might describe differently but it’s a compelling lens to look through. Here goes. Topping A90 D opens up the music, expands the sonic landscape into a “super-natural” experience. Not spiritual, but incredibly natural sonic experience. Music seems to come alive and cans, amp and DAC fade away. You are just immersed in the music and that is very pleasurable and ultra cool. DAC I use is SMSL SU-9 ( mid grade stuff) and paired with new Meze 109 Pro cans. This ultra natural immersion experience ( at least at this price point) leads to wanting to listen to your fav tracks and experience them newly. If you experience the D model yourself with very good cans you will find it confusing and “ ear opening” because words don’t do it justice. Best upgrade ever. Selling my old A90. Thanks ZEOS! I also bought on your reco, Adams Audio T5V monitors.
You're talking about Rupert Neve, the guy who built the Neve 8028 Console which is the analog mixing board that Dave Grohl bought from Sound City Studios in Van Nuys. Did a documentary on it called Sound City. That board was responsible for some of the best albums of our day check it out. That Neve guy was a genius.
I kinda wish it still had the A90's little lever switches, those make a world of difference on my desk. Despite the sour grapes I'm feeling over the higher current on these new ones, switching from headphones to speakers with a remote seems like a pain in the ass.
You don't need to use the remote for the main features because the multi-function volume dial on the A90D pretty much replaces everything the switches could do on the A90. Just be sure that you're on firmware v2.3 or later (which all units shipping today are).
When the Segway was being introduced those guys said it would change the way cities were designed. LOLz will be hilarious to come back to this review in a handful of years.
I'm not sure that firmware updating process is any easier than just having a separate flash drive that you drag a file into then take that and plug into the unit. The latter wouldn't require unplugging everything. IMO easiest way to update firmware is plug USB directly to computer and update directly without unplugging any other cables.
I mean you can just shut off the power to the unit with the switch.. and if your PC is close enough you can leave the USB plugged in for no reason. So no unplugging.
So it’s the best headphone amp, now is it the best preamp? I think it deserves its own video on your speaker system. I kinda want to buy this for my Focal Sopra system now..
You got me at "giggity"! I bought a Singxer SA-1 this year and I already feel cheated because of this one being extreeeemely close in terms of pricing.
@@ZReviews Gonna sleep well reassured tonight with this validation ;). I never had anything that sounded like this amp, but I'm glad Topping really pushes the boundary and pricing.
I'm looking for my first headphone amp. It's interesting how some reviewers find the A90D performance lacking compared to other amps in this price range. It makes me wonder if the synergy of the complete audio system or variance in build quality causes this. Maybe biomechanical differences in the reviewers themselves. As a neophyte to the audio world it makes buying things feel a bit like a roll of the dice. I did buy a A90D mostly from my respect of your work. Thanks for all you do. I'll let you know if my ear/brain combo sees the world like you do.
@@ilovehotdogs125790 I really like it and it sounds amazing to my ears - however - I like my BottleHead Crack better. The Toppings have a better clarity in the treble range but lack the body of the tube amp. They’re both nice but I like one sound over the other.
@@Brighamdoc I decided to get the schiit asgard 3.. for my beyer 1990 pros. It's single ended only which is what i need. And it has a ton of power. I wonder if it really is that much worse than the more expensive a90d.. I got the schiit for $250 so it was way cheaper
Oh yearh, that hidden volume scaling function. Just got it in black a few days ago, and was fiddling with the remote pressing "A" and suddenly the volume went way way down, but the number on the front was the same?! Had a short shock thinking I broke it, and then remembered hearing/reading about it elsewhere. Still in the initial state of excitement of having a new amp to test against my trusty old Perreaux SXH2.
Such a shame they do not enable an external PSU on this when going for a discrete output. Also; I can’t really take this review seriously as long as it does not involve a thorough comparison w. the Singxer SA-1 you have…
I had a couple Bursons hp amps and OMG !! Their dacs are 🔥 also love to try this Topping in a video review when you do a 40min video something is up !! Thanks Zeos !
"When did Trigger become a thing?" Coincidentally, they was founded 11 years ago to the day this video was made, though it took them another 2 years before they released Kill la Kill, which was when they truly became a thing. This has been your weeb trivia for the day.
Good to know there is a replacement for my second THX789. One already died. I guess 3 yrs is a good run now for electronics. Planned obsolescence sucks.
I put 4 medicine bottle caps under the feet to raise it of a desk or counter. Brought the temp down a good amount for me. I have had np with mine bought in May 11, 2020. So maybe that is what helped mine not break but I have had np with mine ever. Maybe that will help yours live longer this time just a thought.
When I heard "this is the best amp ever!" My Pavlovian response kicks in and I want to buy it, but then I remember that I already have the original A90, and upgrading to the A90D would require selling my old A90 at a loss and then I would receive the A90D and probably not notice the difference in sound...
@@ZReviews Josh Valour also reviewed this amp and said that he could definitely notice the sound difference, even in a blind test, and the A90D is better than the A90, but he also didn't go crazy about it...
@@bonanzabrandon6877 The A90D definitely has more weight and punch from the midrange down compared to the A90. Whether you like it more or not is a personal decision... I own both and run them in preamp and headphone modes (80% of the time as preamp to my studio monitors) and would say the A90D suites my tastes a little better.
@@jamiee156 quick question regarding pre-amp mode … are both outputs working at the same time as variable? Would love to run this with both an external speaker amp and a subwoofer (via RCA) at the same time.
Man it’s your own money and it’s not my business but all I can say is don’t be a audiofool. It would make zero audible difference to your ears but it’s up to you sir😉
Impulsively bought this after watching this video. Damn you Zeos! Any good bang-for-buck speaker amp recommendations to use with this baby when I'm not using headphones?
Despite there being some people that had quality control issues with theirs, I just bought the Topping pa5 and I’m super happy with it running my Elac Debut 2.0 bookshelf speakers. It sounds amazing. I don’t crank the volume though so I can’t give my opinion there. I’ve only had it a few days so can’t guarantee long term reliability but, if it’s anything like my topping d30 pro or a90 it should last. Fingers crossed. By the way another good bang for buck amp to consider is the smsl da-9. Some people say it sounds border line sibilant in the highs which is why I took the risk and chose the Topping pa5 over the smsl da-9.
Thx for the review Looking for upgrade of my current stack : SMSL SU-8 + SP200. I'm wondering how much of a worthy upgrade it would constitute, & how it compares to the SP400 (read it would be + clinical, which wouldn't necessarily be a service to the "non-hiFi gRaDe" files I usually listen to, & the coldness of the current chain toward my Focal Clear, which could benefit out of a bit + fun 🤩)
Hey quick question, what do you guys think of the a90 or a90d as a potential upgrade to my dx1 sometime down the line. Would that be "overkill" or is the dx1 "good enough" to stick to it even with an amp this good? Thanks in advance!
This is your best review yet, Z, that I've seen. I have no further questions! I want it. Unfortunately, I still don't need it. But I want it. Ugh, decisions. There's One thing I wish it had... a subwoofer output. Because anymore, a headphone amp that's offering passive speaker out.. ought to have a sub out. The 2.1 desktop setup. That's what we want. Am I wrong? But there's only a few that offer it. NAD gets it...behold, the D3045. Have you reviewed it?
It is a completely transparent amplifier just as transparent as all the other transparent amplifiera. 5 hours to listen to the same sound as the other topping amplifiers. 42 minutes. I am clearly only here for the entertainment.
It sounds like Topping just got rid of any need for its Pre90 preamp since the new A90D seems to do all the same functions of their Pre90 plus also being a headphone amp.
First day comparing the A90D with my Singxer SA-1. To my untrained ears, the hype seems way overblown. One isn't clearly superior to the other, more like they're different flavors in the same product class. The A90D's signature is what I would describe as neutral, while the Singxer takes that neutrality and smooths the edges off. There are trade-offs across the board: The SA-1 has a smooth, subtle warmth to it, but the bass on the A90D seems more tight and focused. There's rarely any treble bite with the SA-1, but when I switch to the A90D it feels like a veil is lifted and I can see more clearly into the music. Sometimes that gives tracks a harshness that isn't present on the SA-1. Tldr; focused clarity vs. laid-back musicality. Based on first impressions, I would have a tough time choosing between the two were price no object. I've heard that the A90D needs some burn-in because of the discrete components. Might be audiophile superstition, I guess I'll keep listening and see if anything magically changes
@@dalejail The A90D definitely wins on dynamics and impact. The edges of notes feel more clearly defined, both in the low and high end. The SA-1 seems comparatively rolled off. That's not to say the SA-1 is lower resolution, necessarily. Wavetheory did a great breakdown of the A90D on his channel that sort of expands on this idea of perceived resolution vs. actual resolution. But you will definitely perceive the A90D as being clearer, with greater dynamics, and extension
Hey ZE0S I have an SPL Phonitor 2 that I don't really use much I was thinking of selling it and getting the A90 discrete. Do you think this would be a good idea? I paid over 2k for the Phonitor when it was new a few years back, would this be a good upgrade or a step down?
I'm looking to upgrade soon(currently am on a thx 789/schiit modius combo with an hd800s as well as dunu vulkan iems) I'm looking at an a90 discreet/d90se stack or just an rme adi 2 dac fs. I primarily use my setup for competitive fps gaming, but I enjoy listening to music at high quality from time to time. Would you go with the topping stack or the adi 2?
I have the HD800S, RME ADI2 DAC FS, A90, D70S dac, Yggdrasil A2 dac, Burson Soloist 3xp amp, Cayin HA1AMK2 tube amp, Schiit Lokius. The RME with HD800S is just too analytical sounding to my ears, regardless of any EQ adjustments. The RME is fantastic with HD6XX , and many other headphones, though. If the analytical hyper detailed sound signature is your thing, go for the RME/HD800S pairing. To me, it gets fatiguing after a while. I dont game. Its 95%+ music listening and the rest is an occasional movie. The RME/HD800S combo is just fine for movies to my ears. Idk if for gaming the investment you're suggesting would be worth the results. Im skeptical. For gaming purposes, or for movies, I think what you already have is fantastic. If you want EQ, keep what you have, and add a Schiit Loki/Lokius, and youll be doing great.
@@mclement052164 thank you very much for your input, I’m new to the audio scene, only purchased my equipment within the last year. I didn’t even know the lokius existed, I will definitely be purchasing that in the near future. EQ was one of the few reasons I even considered the Rme, as well as the dedicated iem input and being an all in one unit. As for the amp/dac upgrades, I still want to invest in at least an a90 and maybe a d90 later on since the good reviews I’ve seen with them stacked, also the thx789 can be fatiguing imo after awhile. I would say use case is pretty split, gaming/music/movies - 40/30/30
I'm glad this sounds amazing but there is no excuse in the world that this does not have a lcd color display that makes it easy to program and tell you what it's set to, for this price!
IMO, losing the toggle switches is only a problem because of the poor quality/layout of the remote. Why does such a premium amplifier come with a cheap and janky remote?
Problem with the Rupert Neve (Knee-v) RNHP, and possibly his other amps, not sure, but the RNHP atleast has an issue with being TOO CLEAN and too fast. I know that sounds weird, but it's SO clean that it has a lack of natural decay/air around various things. I heard people say that it sounds like you're listening to speakers in an anechoic chamber
Y’all really gotta be more clear about this being only a headphone amp. Nobody before like 2 years ago would have called this just an “amplifier” period, now I have to scroll 80% down the product page to figure that out
Hi @ZReviews thanks for video, can you compare EF600 and Topping A90D + D90SE please? Is it heaven and dude or is comparable on same level? Thanks for answer
God damnit Z, stop spending my money! Bought the old a90 last week after the asr bros convinced me it's the same or slightly worse. Guess my ears will be the judge
@@ZReviews Spent the last 4 hours listening to different shit going back and forth between the two (boring sound test details further below). Without a single doubt, there is more low end energy which makes things feel more "warm" and natural. You usually like a darker/warmer sound than I do, but I wouldn't describe the a90d as darker at all. It's simply more natural sounding and fully-rounded without losing the linearity and precision I like from traditional topping stuff. Everything sounds noticeably silkier and smoother. To my ears, the soundstage appears larger, not sure if it's a side effect of the above though. How I tested: Set my sundaras on the table, set my phone in between the ear cups with a sound meter. WITHOUT MOVING the headphone or phone at all, hot swapped the cables from a90 to a90d. Went back and forth a couple times to ensure I was as accurate as I could get with what I have. Once I was level matched, I went back and forth by keeping the headphones on my head, but hot swapped the cables. Plus I just straight up listened to a lot of different stuff going back and forth before trying the whole sound matched thing. Even made the a90d noticeably quieter and still preferred it.
I bought the D90SE that I use in USB and the A90 Discrete and I also bought the TCX1 cable that I plugged into the 2 devices so how do I plug in after RCA speakers? the speakers on the D90SE or on the A90 Discrete another question I have no sound on the A90 Discrete when I plug in my HIFIMAN why
Hey man I just watched a old video about 2-3 years ago on the Tin audio T2 iems do you still recommend them for the price and if not what ones should I go with for the same price range
Is the ican sig the one with tubes in it? Considering how delightful some of the ifi filters and stuff can be I would never give that up compared to only having a linear amp, but hey if you can afford both and end up liking this better, then that’s great!
Don't do it bro 🤣 don't fall for the marketing hype , all these reviewers get kickback from topping for shilling their stuff. The ifi Ican pro will crap all over these things. I have it and have compared it to the a90d.... It's not even in the same league
Zeos I completely agree with you bro! I bought the A90 Discrete over a month ago when it was just announced. And fuck! I'm so crazy excited! You said you were crying while listening. Bro! This is the most accurate description for conveying all the emotions that I experienced when listening to this amplifier. I was crying like a little boy... P.S Setup: D90SE + A90 Discrete + HiFiMan Arya Stealth. It remains now to buy LA90 for complete happiness :)
@@Nordraw "clown"?...rude, anyway this amp has been tested by professional people using precise electronic devices, is indeed state of the art, educate yourself, you need lots of that.
I have asked in Head Fi but some wierd responses . So Zeos can I use my Xduoo MT-604 as a pre tube amp because I like the separate L &R Vol controls and tube sound?
d10 balanced is good enough for almost anything. You need to have almost superhuman hearing for the D10 balanced to not be good enough. It's a great dac. If you do actually have golden ears and can tell exactly in which direction a flea is farting, then upgrade your dac.
@@zaim_ipek my bad, misunderstood the question, and yes d10 balanced would be great for the a90d, just make sure it's got the connection possibilities you need or want.
Anyone try the A90D with HE-6 HiFiman? Sure wish Z would include this discussion. Man you jump around a lot. Talking about specific headphone pairings, then you get distracted, move on, never to return to headphone pairings.
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What are the brand of the XLR cables and the other one?
The Black A90D looks way cooler than the Silver one. The numbers for the volume really pop nice on the Black
they should go retro on the black and make it either neon blue or calculator red 😜
I was thinking the same thing. Zeos likes the silver, but, (butt!), (🍑?), I personally prefer the black as well.
FYI... HIGH & LOW Gain are select-able on the main unit w/o using the remote since firmware 2.3 (Press and rotate the volume button (at same time) UP/DOWN to select "H" or "L").
thanks
Cool. Thanks for the tip. Its like a rubiks cube.
That’s a lot of responsibility for a single dial!
@@JWACOM With that responsibility comes great power
@@tenveri Well said.
Got the boi after a month wait. Sounds great but I thought mine was gimped as I wasn't getting the full power. Turns out mine already had the limiter firmwared and I accidentally fiddled with that secret remote button beforehand. Good on you for mentioning those two things!
Yeah that was my mistake also after install.
And… purchased. These retailers better love Zeos.
We will see.
True i am debating to get a 2nd hedphone or iem but now i am not sure if i should and just get a a90 discrete 😅
I think Im finally replacing my 789...this was just too much praise...gonna sleep on it first tho :3
@@FunkyPants3D Gonna sound exactly the same. Dont be a sheep
@@edithboozy1000 Yes. There is still hope for this world where there are still some conscious people left. That’s exactly the point.
I picked up a discrete circuit headphone amp two years ago (Lake People G111) and haven't felt the need to get anything else. Powerful and natural sounding.
I bought it, and agreed, it's the best amp ever lol. $600 is a steal! If you love high detail and clean sound, this is a banger!
need DAC?
A90(amp)/D90(dac) is the stack.
@@ogcurated i think im going with the topping l70 for $350 and pocketing the 400 bucks
@@ogcuratedsorry im still fairly new to having mid range stuff. So this unit is both an amp/dac?
@Whammy it's only amp. Depending how you have your set up that's all you need but might be missing out on more higher end quality to your sound without a dac.
"The THX AAA 789 changed the world . . . its up there on the shelf." 😢
Three of them actually. All purchased by me. For Cash Money.
Listened to Zeos, Resolve, DMS, others. “Pointy”, edgy Zeos style sold me. Why, because his early comments if “ it’s just an amp, I usually listen for one hour, but this one 1,2, 5 F-ing hours!” That comment was so intriguing to me! Then I upgraded from A90, which I liked, new A90 D model ( in black). I then began to understand Zeos 5 f-hours comment. What he and then I found I might describe differently but it’s a compelling lens to look through. Here goes. Topping A90 D opens up the music, expands the sonic landscape into a “super-natural” experience. Not spiritual, but incredibly natural sonic experience. Music seems to come alive and cans, amp and DAC fade away. You are just immersed in the music and that is very pleasurable and ultra cool. DAC I use is SMSL SU-9 ( mid grade stuff) and paired with new Meze 109 Pro cans. This ultra natural immersion experience ( at least at this price point) leads to wanting to listen to your fav tracks and experience them newly. If you experience the D model yourself with very good cans you will find it confusing and “ ear opening” because words don’t do it justice. Best upgrade ever. Selling my old A90. Thanks ZEOS! I also bought on your reco, Adams Audio T5V monitors.
Bought this couple of days ago still waiting on shipping. Nice to see reviews start dropping
Pronounced NEEV. Dude is a legend in the recording industry. Great review as always.
I hope he was joking.
That volume scaling function just sold me on this.
We have all seen the snippet of you, introducing yourself, from the audio show a few years back. Do not worry Z.
You're talking about Rupert Neve, the guy who built the Neve 8028 Console which is the analog mixing board that Dave Grohl bought from Sound City Studios in Van Nuys. Did a documentary on it called Sound City. That board was responsible for some of the best albums of our day check it out. That Neve guy was a genius.
That was a great documentary
Thanks for the review. I bought the KPH30i after watching your review, and then BTR-5, and then KPH40. Now, I'm pretty sure I should buy this.
But the real question is: is it better than the LA90 (as headphone amp)? I'm really impressed by my a90d with my stealth
I kinda wish it still had the A90's little lever switches, those make a world of difference on my desk. Despite the sour grapes I'm feeling over the higher current on these new ones, switching from headphones to speakers with a remote seems like a pain in the ass.
Agree. And even the remote has an invalid button… that’s really disappointing
You don't need to use the remote for the main features because the multi-function volume dial on the A90D pretty much replaces everything the switches could do on the A90. Just be sure that you're on firmware v2.3 or later (which all units shipping today are).
@@willobst2772 The Invalid Button gets reassigned with the firmware update. I talk about it in the video.
@@ZReviews thanks - I know. Wrote it above …
@@willobst2772 You didn't, actually...?
Thoughts on pairing with HD 800S? Or best to still use a tube amp? Considering this if any good, else considering a Woo Audio WA2.
When the Segway was being introduced those guys said it would change the way cities were designed. LOLz will be hilarious to come back to this review in a handful of years.
I mean.. i don't know about you but I am watching on my Segway traveling to a Falcon Heavy launch.
I’m just waiting for Amir to call the next big amp the new perfect amp even though this one is supposed to be perfect already.
I'm not sure that firmware updating process is any easier than just having a separate flash drive that you drag a file into then take that and plug into the unit. The latter wouldn't require unplugging everything. IMO easiest way to update firmware is plug USB directly to computer and update directly without unplugging any other cables.
I mean you can just shut off the power to the unit with the switch.. and if your PC is close enough you can leave the USB plugged in for no reason. So no unplugging.
So it’s the best headphone amp, now is it the best preamp?
I think it deserves its own video on your speaker system.
I kinda want to buy this for my Focal Sopra system now..
It for SURE will be used as a Pre next round of passive speaker tests.
So transparent the color correction of this Z review turned cool
Just came in today... Holy shiiiiiiitssss 🤯 What's the opposite of buyer's remorse? About to just hit some volcano bags and listen to music all day
What did you have before it? To compare..
You got me at "giggity"!
I bought a Singxer SA-1 this year and I already feel cheated because of this one being extreeeemely close in terms of pricing.
You did nothing wrong.
@@ZReviews Gonna sleep well reassured tonight with this validation ;). I never had anything that sounded like this amp, but I'm glad Topping really pushes the boundary and pricing.
I appreciate Modeus in the background ✊🏼
already got the D90le + A90D stack and love them. just come to say thank you.
Zeos for entertainment and others for serious information ;)
I mean Information like you are looking for is on the product page. You don't need a person to read that stuff to you.
@@ZReviews and quick-witted like a dead horse :D
Hype. Hype. Hype.
Wow. Some big statements there Zeos. I love it.
I'm looking for my first headphone amp. It's interesting how some reviewers find the A90D performance lacking compared to other amps in this price range. It makes me wonder if the synergy of the complete audio system or variance in build quality causes this. Maybe biomechanical differences in the reviewers themselves. As a neophyte to the audio world it makes buying things feel a bit like a roll of the dice.
I did buy a A90D mostly from my respect of your work. Thanks for all you do. I'll let you know if my ear/brain combo sees the world like you do.
What do you think? I thinking of buying one too.. is it all hype or is it actually good?
@@ilovehotdogs125790 I really like it and it sounds amazing to my ears - however - I like my BottleHead Crack better. The Toppings have a better clarity in the treble range but lack the body of the tube amp. They’re both nice but I like one sound over the other.
@@Brighamdoc I decided to get the schiit asgard 3.. for my beyer 1990 pros. It's single ended only which is what i need. And it has a ton of power. I wonder if it really is that much worse than the more expensive a90d.. I got the schiit for $250 so it was way cheaper
Oh yearh, that hidden volume scaling function. Just got it in black a few days ago, and was fiddling with the remote pressing "A" and suddenly the volume went way way down, but the number on the front was the same?!
Had a short shock thinking I broke it, and then remembered hearing/reading about it elsewhere. Still in the initial state of excitement of having a new amp to test against my trusty old Perreaux SXH2.
I'm totally sold on this. Looking forward to the D90 review!
I want that with the Geishelli that you mentioned.
I love my A90. Will be picking this up.
Need to find out if this A90D is better than the Singxer SA-1, and it's pronounced Rupert Knee-v
Such a shame they do not enable an external PSU on this when going for a discrete output. Also; I can’t really take this review seriously as long as it does not involve a thorough comparison w. the Singxer SA-1 you have…
Nine Inch Nails Closer is my main audio test track! It sounded really good on Meze Elites.
I had a couple Bursons hp amps and OMG !! Their dacs are 🔥 also love to try this Topping in a video review when you do a 40min video something is up !!
Thanks Zeos !
Great review mate. Loved it.
The new best thing that sounds like the best thing from yesterday. Save your money and enjoy the show.
"When did Trigger become a thing?"
Coincidentally, they was founded 11 years ago to the day this video was made, though it took them another 2 years before they released Kill la Kill, which was when they truly became a thing.
This has been your weeb trivia for the day.
Thanks for the review! I did end up picking this up myself, it's a pretty good headphone amp. =-)
Good to know there is a replacement for my second THX789. One already died. I guess 3 yrs is a good run now for electronics. Planned obsolescence sucks.
I put 4 medicine bottle caps under the feet to raise it of a desk or counter. Brought the temp down a good amount for me. I have had np with mine bought in May 11, 2020. So maybe that is what helped mine not break but I have had np with mine ever. Maybe that will help yours live longer this time just a thought.
So bad…
Topping makes excellent products.
I'm still rocking my TP32.
When I heard "this is the best amp ever!" My Pavlovian response kicks in and I want to buy it, but then I remember that I already have the original A90, and upgrading to the A90D would require selling my old A90 at a loss and then I would receive the A90D and probably not notice the difference in sound...
This IS the issue. You have to trust me.
Trust
me
do it.
@@ZReviews Josh Valour also reviewed this amp and said that he could definitely notice the sound difference, even in a blind test, and the A90D is better than the A90, but he also didn't go crazy about it...
@@bonanzabrandon6877 The A90D definitely has more weight and punch from the midrange down compared to the A90. Whether you like it more or not is a personal decision...
I own both and run them in preamp and headphone modes (80% of the time as preamp to my studio monitors) and would say the A90D suites my tastes a little better.
@@jamiee156 quick question regarding pre-amp mode … are both outputs working at the same time as variable? Would love to run this with both an external speaker amp and a subwoofer (via RCA) at the same time.
Man it’s your own money and it’s not my business but all I can say is don’t be a audiofool. It would make zero audible difference to your ears but it’s up to you sir😉
Impulsively bought this after watching this video. Damn you Zeos!
Any good bang-for-buck speaker amp recommendations to use with this baby when I'm not using headphones?
Despite there being some people that had quality control issues with theirs, I just bought the Topping pa5 and I’m super happy with it running my Elac Debut 2.0 bookshelf speakers. It sounds amazing. I don’t crank the volume though so I can’t give my opinion there. I’ve only had it a few days so can’t guarantee long term reliability but, if it’s anything like my topping d30 pro or a90 it should last. Fingers crossed. By the way another good bang for buck amp to consider is the smsl da-9. Some people say it sounds border line sibilant in the highs which is why I took the risk and chose the Topping pa5 over the smsl da-9.
There are a Ton. SABAJ has those A10A's that you can even monoblock in the future.
@@AudioHead809 Topping PA5 looks really promising, thanks!
@@RokujyuuyonShou you’re very welcome man! Hope everything works perfect the way you want!
@@ZReviews The A10A looks really solid, not sure what monoblock means though
Do i get this or the Fiio K9 Pro ESS?
Not seen a 16:10 video fill my whole screen before well done
this video format must be just for you.
Thx for the review
Looking for upgrade of my current stack : SMSL SU-8 + SP200.
I'm wondering how much of a worthy upgrade it would constitute, & how it compares to the SP400 (read it would be + clinical, which wouldn't necessarily be a service to the "non-hiFi gRaDe" files I usually listen to, & the coldness of the current chain toward my Focal Clear, which could benefit out of a bit + fun 🤩)
Violectric amps have this sort of quality, but at more cost. Love my, at this point vintage, early production V200.
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@@edithboozy1000 💩💩
Hey quick question, what do you guys think of the a90 or a90d as a potential upgrade to my dx1 sometime down the line. Would that be "overkill" or is the dx1 "good enough" to stick to it even with an amp this good? Thanks in advance!
What I want to know is...what is the Soundstage and depth like on this amp???
It will just make your headphones SS and Depth apparent. It isn't tubes or magic. It makes what you have stand out.
@@ZReviews so my atriums are about to become more sexy. Got it
Amps don't have soundstage.
Have you taken a look at the topping dm7? It seems like it checks a lot of your boxes.
What an interesting volume you've landed on there...
I’m in love with my Singxer-Sa1. I love the smooth/warm wide sound. This Topping really that good 🤔?
This is more towards the analytical side so if you enjoy that about the singxer you may not like this as much
Ordered thanks Z
Be prepared for a million “How do so&so headphones sound on the A90D?” questions. Speaking of which, have you tried the HifiMan Sundaras on them?
/start automated response protocol..... "Great"
What is a better combo? this.... or the Xduoo TA-22?
I bought it today to use as a preamp (discount on Amazon)
Fine. I caved. The a30pro replaced the L30 at work. This lives at home.
What is the best dac in your opinion?
This is your best review yet, Z, that I've seen. I have no further questions! I want it. Unfortunately, I still don't need it. But I want it. Ugh, decisions. There's One thing I wish it had... a subwoofer output. Because anymore, a headphone amp that's offering passive speaker out.. ought to have a sub out. The 2.1 desktop setup. That's what we want. Am I wrong? But there's only a few that offer it. NAD gets it...behold, the D3045. Have you reviewed it?
It is a completely transparent amplifier just as transparent as all the other transparent amplifiera. 5 hours to listen to the same sound as the other topping amplifiers. 42 minutes. I am clearly only here for the entertainment.
Its doing more then other Transparent Amps. How you measure that is a question I leave to others.
@@ZReviews the only difference between 1 no audible difference and another no audible difference is gain.
@@ZReviews than* ;)
A90d has perfect channel balance.
shnark +1 thank you, as always
Loving this 16:10 ratio.
It sounds like Topping just got rid of any need for its Pre90 preamp since the new A90D seems to do all the same functions of their Pre90 plus also being a headphone amp.
don't forget all the good stuff that happens in the HPA happens in the pre out too ... it's insane value
Where do we go from here? Isnt it OBVIOUS?!?!
Topping A100D Special Edition, Coming (i predict) by the end of 2023.
First day comparing the A90D with my Singxer SA-1. To my untrained ears, the hype seems way overblown. One isn't clearly superior to the other, more like they're different flavors in the same product class. The A90D's signature is what I would describe as neutral, while the Singxer takes that neutrality and smooths the edges off.
There are trade-offs across the board: The SA-1 has a smooth, subtle warmth to it, but the bass on the A90D seems more tight and focused. There's rarely any treble bite with the SA-1, but when I switch to the A90D it feels like a veil is lifted and I can see more clearly into the music. Sometimes that gives tracks a harshness that isn't present on the SA-1.
Tldr; focused clarity vs. laid-back musicality.
Based on first impressions, I would have a tough time choosing between the two were price no object. I've heard that the A90D needs some burn-in because of the discrete components. Might be audiophile superstition, I guess I'll keep listening and see if anything magically changes
which would you say has better extension/impact/dynamics/texture in the bass?
@@dalejail The A90D definitely wins on dynamics and impact. The edges of notes feel more clearly defined, both in the low and high end. The SA-1 seems comparatively rolled off. That's not to say the SA-1 is lower resolution, necessarily.
Wavetheory did a great breakdown of the A90D on his channel that sort of expands on this idea of perceived resolution vs. actual resolution.
But you will definitely perceive the A90D as being clearer, with greater dynamics, and extension
@@blank-jo1xp would you describe the sa-1 mid/sub bass as softer, less defined and less impactful?
Don't forget your also getting more power
Hey ZE0S I have an SPL Phonitor 2 that I don't really use much I was thinking of selling it and getting the A90 discrete. Do you think this would be a good idea? I paid over 2k for the Phonitor when it was new a few years back, would this be a good upgrade or a step down?
Ive not used that amp.. SOooo Hard call.
I'm looking to upgrade soon(currently am on a thx 789/schiit modius combo with an hd800s as well as dunu vulkan iems) I'm looking at an a90 discreet/d90se stack or just an rme adi 2 dac fs. I primarily use my setup for competitive fps gaming, but I enjoy listening to music at high quality from time to time. Would you go with the topping stack or the adi 2?
I have the HD800S, RME ADI2 DAC FS, A90, D70S dac, Yggdrasil A2 dac, Burson Soloist 3xp amp, Cayin HA1AMK2 tube amp, Schiit Lokius.
The RME with HD800S is just too analytical sounding to my ears, regardless of any EQ adjustments. The RME is fantastic with HD6XX , and many other headphones, though. If the analytical hyper detailed sound signature is your thing, go for the RME/HD800S pairing. To me, it gets fatiguing after a while.
I dont game. Its 95%+ music listening and the rest is an occasional movie. The RME/HD800S combo is just fine for movies to my ears.
Idk if for gaming the investment you're suggesting would be worth the results. Im skeptical. For gaming purposes, or for movies, I think what you already have is fantastic. If you want EQ, keep what you have, and add a Schiit Loki/Lokius, and youll be doing great.
@@mclement052164 thank you very much for your input, I’m new to the audio scene, only purchased my equipment within the last year. I didn’t even know the lokius existed, I will definitely be purchasing that in the near future. EQ was one of the few reasons I even considered the Rme, as well as the dedicated iem input and being an all in one unit. As for the amp/dac upgrades, I still want to invest in at least an a90 and maybe a d90 later on since the good reviews I’ve seen with them stacked, also the thx789 can be fatiguing imo after awhile. I would say use case is pretty split, gaming/music/movies - 40/30/30
Well...."best amp ever".....Im shocked 🤣
We need a supercut of every time he's announced a product is the best thing ever!
@@michaelcorcoran8768 PLEASE! I need that
I'm glad this sounds amazing but there is no excuse in the world that this does not have a lcd color display that makes it easy to program and tell you what it's set to, for this price!
What 600$ amp has that ?
Price is actually quite low for all it offers.
@@thierryfaquet7405 a bunch of the smsl do
I honestly prefer the older style look on things. (I wonder if I could make a wood case for this? hmmm....)
499 now
IMO, losing the toggle switches is only a problem because of the poor quality/layout of the remote. Why does such a premium amplifier come with a cheap and janky remote?
Problem with the Rupert Neve (Knee-v) RNHP, and possibly his other amps, not sure, but the RNHP atleast has an issue with being TOO CLEAN and too fast. I know that sounds weird, but it's SO clean that it has a lack of natural decay/air around various things. I heard people say that it sounds like you're listening to speakers in an anechoic chamber
Odd that that sort of sound can be a negative. Need an Anechoic chamber now.
I agree about the RNHP. My experience exactly.
Definitely a step up from my 887.
This makes me want to sell my K9 ESS and go for a stack 😅
I like sandwiches!
8:33 Zeos fav volume number is 69 🤣🤣
Y’all really gotta be more clear about this being only a headphone amp. Nobody before like 2 years ago would have called this just an “amplifier” period, now I have to scroll 80% down the product page to figure that out
This A90D setup or Yulong!Aquila? I'm sure the Topping is cleaner, but is Class A Yulong more dynamic?
Hi @ZReviews thanks for video, can you compare EF600 and Topping A90D + D90SE please? Is it heaven and dude or is comparable on same level? Thanks for answer
God damnit Z, stop spending my money! Bought the old a90 last week after the asr bros convinced me it's the same or slightly worse. Guess my ears will be the judge
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is this a new A90?
@@ZReviews Spent the last 4 hours listening to different shit going back and forth between the two (boring sound test details further below). Without a single doubt, there is more low end energy which makes things feel more "warm" and natural. You usually like a darker/warmer sound than I do, but I wouldn't describe the a90d as darker at all. It's simply more natural sounding and fully-rounded without losing the linearity and precision I like from traditional topping stuff. Everything sounds noticeably silkier and smoother. To my ears, the soundstage appears larger, not sure if it's a side effect of the above though.
How I tested:
Set my sundaras on the table, set my phone in between the ear cups with a sound meter. WITHOUT MOVING the headphone or phone at all, hot swapped the cables from a90 to a90d. Went back and forth a couple times to ensure I was as accurate as I could get with what I have.
Once I was level matched, I went back and forth by keeping the headphones on my head, but hot swapped the cables.
Plus I just straight up listened to a lot of different stuff going back and forth before trying the whole sound matched thing. Even made the a90d noticeably quieter and still preferred it.
Where is Audio_Gd these days?
I bought the D90SE that I use in USB and the A90 Discrete and I also bought the TCX1 cable that I plugged into the 2 devices so how do I plug in after RCA speakers? the speakers on the D90SE or on the A90 Discrete another question I have no sound on the A90 Discrete when I plug in my HIFIMAN why
You need to actually end the video after that statement! lol
this or the l70 + E70 ?
went with the Fiio K9 Pro. Did I choose right lol?
New Toy syndrome at Gogo!
Hey man I just watched a old video about 2-3 years ago on the Tin audio T2 iems do you still recommend them for the price and if not what ones should I go with for the same price range
First! I might replace my iFi Pro iCan Sig with this
Is the ican sig the one with tubes in it? Considering how delightful some of the ifi filters and stuff can be I would never give that up compared to only having a linear amp, but hey if you can afford both and end up liking this better, then that’s great!
Don’t
Don't do it bro 🤣 don't fall for the marketing hype , all these reviewers get kickback from topping for shilling their stuff. The ifi Ican pro will crap all over these things. I have it and have compared it to the a90d.... It's not even in the same league
we need an update on the kph40! why the hole Z!! WHY THE HOLE!!
38:39 Channelling Red Letter Media XD
would anyone recommend A90D with RME ADI 2 DAC fs as DAC only ? Dan Clark E3 headphones, only
thanks
Zeos I completely agree with you bro! I bought the A90 Discrete over a month ago when it was just announced. And fuck! I'm so crazy excited! You said you were crying while listening. Bro! This is the most accurate description for conveying all the emotions that I experienced when listening to this amplifier. I was crying like a little boy...
P.S Setup: D90SE + A90 Discrete + HiFiMan Arya Stealth. It remains now to buy LA90 for complete happiness :)
nice gear pal
Next week you will be buying something else some clown tells you is great. Think for yourself.
@@Nordraw "clown"?...rude, anyway this amp has been tested by professional people using precise electronic devices, is indeed state of the art, educate yourself, you need lots of that.
You manti dac what model is that…
I have asked in Head Fi but some wierd responses .
So Zeos can I use my Xduoo MT-604 as a pre tube amp because I like the separate L &R Vol controls and tube sound?
What DAC should I pair with A90D? My daily driver is Sundara.
D400ex
Would the Topping D10 Balanced be a good DAC for this amplifier? Or should I get a better DAC for this amp?
d10 balanced is good enough for almost anything. You need to have almost superhuman hearing for the D10 balanced to not be good enough. It's a great dac. If you do actually have golden ears and can tell exactly in which direction a flea is farting, then upgrade your dac.
Or just get the new topping l30 ii and save money.
@@dagnisnierlins188 That's an amp. He is asking about a DAC. Unless you are telling him not to buy the A90 Discrete. . .
@@zaim_ipek my bad, misunderstood the question, and yes d10 balanced would be great for the a90d, just make sure it's got the connection possibilities you need or want.
Yes, it does excellently. Also consider the SMSL D-6 if you want to try the new dual AKM chips for a reasonable price
Would this be good with an IEM??? just bought Elysian Annihilator 2023 and think I should upgrade from my THX789
Anyone try the A90D with HE-6 HiFiman? Sure wish Z would include this discussion. Man you jump around a lot. Talking about specific headphone pairings, then you get distracted, move on, never to return to headphone pairings.