3 attempts , DC-6 AAG G-SIXC at Ostend Airport Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ส.ค. 2021
- a unexpected arrival , due to some engine problem , subsequent starting attempts to get airborne , and ultimately did some test flights ( Part 2 )
a wonderful memory
year 2000
EXTENDED footage , the sound conditions were excellent
first flight of this iconic design 1946
a Belgian AF Hercules and AZAL 76 departure included
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Man, I love jets, but nothing beats the sound of a good old radial engine.
It was nice to see the Anotov with it's nose up in the background!
Waow !! I wasnt sure att all about what was happening until the propeller starts turnin ... instant smile and a warm wave from the bottom of my heart ❤️ ... that was awesome 😁 🤟👌 ...
Pretty skillfully done! They juuust got it to fire and the flight engineer obviouly kept it going. Good job not cooking the brakes!
MERCI EXTRAORDINAIRE LE DC6 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ MERCI J’ADORE I LOVE THESE generation of propeller planes DC3/4/5/6/7/ et CONSTELLATION !! I flew on board DC3 and DC6 AIR DJIBOUTI airlines in 1968 between DJIBOUTI AND ADDIS ABEBA !!! I was 8 years old
Je suis pas Francais alors excuse moi, sil vous plait. J'etes an etudiant a Lycee Gebre Mariam in Addis quand j'etais jeune
@@jimhansen5167 I went two times in HARARE I was 8 or 9 years old a few kilometers from ADDIS to spend summer holidays the temperatures were coolest (20 to 25° celtius than Djibouti’s (35 to 48° celtius) 😮!! I remembered the beautiful nature so green so much colorful flowers ! my parents sent me to a important covent of Maltese sisters !!!! )))
35 minutes of fascinating viewing! Love these videos 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 The DC6 windmill start was a first for me 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it
was a unique experience for myself as well😉
Takes balls.
Thanks for sharing.
@@BjornMoerman i guess God was on my side that wonderful day , unique experience , my highlight for propliners
Number 1 engine bump start.
DC-8-61 in 1960s fully loaded with 254 pax departed Shannon Ireland for JFK. #2 engine failed on take-off. Dumped fuel for 30 minutes, then returned to Shannon. Off loaded all the pax and put a plug in #2 engine, then departed Shannon with three engines operating, a "ferry flight" to Frankford Germany where we had a spare engine.
THANKS for sharing this awesome story !👏😄
Love old planes😊
The sound is awesome
DC8?
Awesome video and audio thanks so much for posting this
what a clever way to get that naughty engine started !!! top marks 🙂 bravo
Brilliant footage! I love the DC4s too! 😀
Hello this is your captain speaking. 😁
Number one engine has stopped.
So what were going to do is throttle up to takeoff speed then hopefully stop. So.... sit back relax and enjoy this madness. 😅
In Alaska there is an air cargo outfit that at one time they had a whole fleet of the old DC6 aircraft.
They have retired those DC6's in favor of jet aircraft probably some 20 years ago.
Last I heard from my brother they are sitting by the wayside somewhere in Alaska in various states of being dismantlement for parts for other aircraft I assume around the world.
thanks for info despite the sorry status now in Alaska
Took my family on a ‘farewell to the dakota’ trip with air atlantique a fewyears ago. Flew in G AMPY the same kite I had had a pleasure flight about 20 years before. As they say about those old Douglases, you can’t wear them out but yo can break them. Hope Atlantic can keep these beautiful birds aloft for decades to come.
SADLY this example G-SIXC was converted into a restaurant , but i believe this has been terminated , Another AAG G-APSA was dismantled in November 2020 before being transported on display at South Wales Museum , one active survivor in Alaska is Everts Fuel , another one in Switzerland " Red Bull " in disappointing livery , despite its bare metal looks 😔
@@patrickvereecke6654 I was a ground engineer on several legs of that farewell tour. Got my first CAA engineers type licence on the DC3/C47/Dakota and worked on them in the UK, Spain and Africa for many years. One of my favourite aircraft, along with the Dove, Heron and Islander.
8 Irish racehorses in a DC-4 from Toronto to New York in 1981. Horses were better behaved than most humans
just so beautiful...
The P&W R-2800 has a distinctive sound, not as noisy as others reciprocating engines.
Heb als kleine jongen nog in een (Sabena) DC6 gevlogen. Werd soms voor de grap het beste driemotorige vliegtuig genoemd. Deze clip toont vanwaar die bijnaam kwam. Maar een motor "in gang lopen" had ik nog nooit gezien :-)
TY,,,,,,WOW incredible very interesting great information super kool,
AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work.
If a C-130 in a hostile airport cannot fire,another C-130 can park in front and go to max power and start the other 130.
Well and I recall a similar procedure used on a 707 from the Caribbean to New York where they couldn't get one of the engines to start on the ground, so they took it up on three without the passengers and then returned to load up with that engine left running and off they went! Ofcourse it didn't do alot to install confidence but it was a marginal operator from a lesser country so what the hell.
thanks for this exhilarating comment !
In all my decades in aviation I never heard of that! 😬
@@GeorgeMCMLIX me either 🤣
@@patrickvereecke6654 good come back🤣👏👏
Awesome!
Never heard about a windmill start on ground of a big PW radial.
Don’t you think a rope start would have been a safer procedure?
Very nice Video
Very good Video
wonderful
A very lucky unusual event ;)
That's like 3rd world bush pilot type windmill start up. In Belguim ??
if hadn't seen video wouldn't have believed it.
Good crew work !
That was strange! Why was the second attempt done with the #4 not feathered?
Will the number 1 engine stay on once started?
Were they at any risk of the number 1 engine turning off again?
Isn't it better practice to cancel the flight until everything is working properly?
Would it be possible to windmill-start it by parking it staggered behind a full-power Herc? The R2800 is warmed up a little also..
Just an idea... I estimate the slipstream speed behind the standing Herc at least 250 km/h.... powerfull hence.
Hahahaha. The old "air-start" technique if you had a bad starter. You would run the manifold pressure on the inboards on up to full power (wet or dry) and bring the opposing outboard engine slowly up to about 40imp then as you got the wind-milling engine started you would bring both it and the opposing outboard engines up to T/O power as smoothly as you could, otherwise your foot was going to be holding the rudder at the stop!
But doesnt the wind-milling engine have to warm up first before providing any power?
@@flywithtb5005 Of course, there are operating parameters .
I flew the 6 for 6.5 years and did some windmill starts. I flew FE FO and as a Capt for 4 years. When I was in the left seat and I had an engineer who had never done one I would tell them when it starts rotating mags on and mix rich as soon as it starts I will abort and reverse the other three and no matter what happens just keep that engine running. Sometimes coming out of reverse if the FE did not get the mixtures right an engine would quit. This was something I didn't want to do more than once during the same flight. We never continued the takeoff and would taxi back and get it up to temp before takeoff. When I flew the L188 we could not do these types of ground windmill starts so we would have to takeoff empty on 3 and start it in flight then go back and land and load the airplane with the engine running. We really could load with number 3 or number 4 running as 1 and 2 it was too dangerous to load.
@@bkailua1224 Yes. I agree. I did not like to continue into flight without a proper amount of warm-up time, but, there were occasions when it was done. As the old 2800's got older and older and we couldn't get 115/145 anymore, the situation became dangerous sometimes. Even a wet take-off was edgy. We knew it was time to retire from flying the '6's because it was inevitable they were going to kill us. The old girl's were just old and stretched to the limits too often.
Funny you mention the 188. Used to load them all the time with #4 running on a quick turn-around. After flying the old piston windmills the 188's were like flying a fighter. I reflect back and it seems hard to believe I have out-lived so many types.
I've never seen a DC6 and with 3 landing gear pretty cool
Were you expecting more or less?
Fascinating footage! For me the question is, why was #1 engine shut off in the first place? One commenter mentioned bad starter, but surely that has not been the reason for turning it off. There were no repairs done on the ground at Ostend right?
none whatsoever , it continued doing several more test flights that wonderful , unique day
#1 engine
what a treat ! Thanks for sharing
welcome , a most memorable day , lucky that i could be present , tale of the unexpected
Seen this herky at manston june 1988 arrived from raf leeming
Those R2800 Double Wasps are getting old.
C'était un très bel avion aux lignes élégantes.
Premier vol 15/02/1946 , un véritable classique , nostalgique !
Probably cost a small fortune on fuel, but hey it worked!👍😉
busy afternoon , test flights after fixing the problem , a private airshow😄
No. 1 Engine is not happy. Prop Synchronizer not working...wing and a prayer you betcha!
6.17 friendly wave ;)
Back in the day in Transafrik we had a 727 that needed to do a RTO in order to open the "bleeds" before the real TO ;) those were the days
🤩🤩🤩👍👌😊
Windmill start of #1; very cleaver but is it approved?
;) , possibly , however good show , most memorable afternoon , Ostend had its fair share of surprises over the years , i was not complaining
@@patrickvereecke6654 That's not Central America or the Caribbean. I'm really surprised they tried that in Europe and got away with it. Did you notice that when they finally took off, the #4 prop was turning slower than the rest?
Ostend may have had its own rules ? ! , peculiar airport and traffic , i was not complaining :)
@@patrickvereecke6654 Ostend sure did have its own rules - both for the aircraft and the cargoes some of them carried ;)
@@davef.2811 Yep I saw that. However the blurring could also indicate that the engine was turning faster than the others. They must have been having tach problems on #4.
Older video seeing there was a C-141 in the back ground
C-130 Hercules , Belgian Air Force , have been mostly retired by now
this is low octain fuel
ok doesn't the pilot know that one of the engines is not working.
Stubborn DC-6 LoL 😂
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Automatic downvote for any video that is interrupted by commercials.
From a spectator standpunt: absolutely terrific. From a piloting standpoint: absolutely dumb.
From the operator's standpoint: Do it, we'll fix it at home! - Have witnessed it on Fk27, Vc9, L188 and on this Dc6 G-SIXC "Jimmy the One".
Absolutely dumb? Really? Care to explain why? (to an aircraft engineer who's spent many years maintaining old piston-engined aircraft, including the DC3 and DC6 and known their operating crews including a flight engineer with decades of world-wide experience the type).
There was absolutely nothing dumb in that procedure, it's just another way to start an engine when the starter is defective.
I've started my petrol engine cars this way many times over the decades 😊
25% of power gone, and they take off …..try a take off ? Loaded ? Was this brilliant piloting , or something else ?
windmill start
@@patrickvereecke6654 That is not allways successful . A big gamble ! A better choice is to park it.
@@juliojames5986Not a take-off attempt, it's a high-speed run to windmill start the engine. Once the engine is running, they'd return to the piano keys with ATC permission and take off normally.
Sorry open
Engine is fail