History of the Drumset - Part 1, 1865 - Double Drumming

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  • As the U.S. Civil War ends and slavery is abolished, drummers begin experimenting with ways that a single player can do the job of an entire percussion section. Within a few years, the technique known as "Double Drumming" becomes popular in theater orchestras and dance bands.
    In this 16-part series, Vic Firth and Daniel Glass will be looking at 100 years of drumming evolution. Learn about the key events and advancements that shaped the drumset we know and love today!
    www.vicfirth.com/drumset-history
    Visit the Vic Firth website today for an interactive timeline and hundreds of great photos cataloging the history of our instrument the drumset!

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  • @jamesorvis4605
    @jamesorvis4605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent work! As a lover of history alone, this is intriguing!

  • @Nickropolis
    @Nickropolis 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Love this series already...I'm not typically a drum DVD buyer but this kind of thing I feel every drummer should be exposed to.

  • @JamesStorey09
    @JamesStorey09 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This and your 'century project' that is purchased have basically helped me get a 1st in my degree. Thankyou Daniel Glass! You're awesome.

  • @jorgelopez9620
    @jorgelopez9620 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great editing and sound design, 2 of my favorites. Drums and editing, if there was a bbq and beer in site I would be in heaven

  • @InnerBeatDrumSchool
    @InnerBeatDrumSchool 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome again Daniel! I'm gonna pick up this DVD real soon man! Keep up the work that reminds us that there is actually more to life than what is happening right this minute. This is especially important for kids.

    • @DanielGlassDrums
      @DanielGlassDrums 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks George - there is a real cool poster that goes with this series. Send me the address to the shop, and I'll have VF send a bunch out to you - for your teaching rooms, etc.

    • @InnerBeatDrumSchool
      @InnerBeatDrumSchool 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a million Daniel! Always love your material. I'd love the posters too. Address is: InnerBeat Drum School, 1368 Tennessee Ave, Pittsburgh, Pa, 15216

  • @markd4109
    @markd4109 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That demonstration of double drumming was amazingly cool! I never knew they did this before bass drum pedals!

  • @DrummerJacob
    @DrummerJacob 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    @1:16 - Strange that you never mentioned the economic impact of paying the wages of five drummers when you could pay for just one.
    And it wasn't the drummers who thought about combining the drum set, it was actually a series of band leaders trying to make their band profitable and stay on the road that brought about this awareness and interest in consolidation.

    • @DanielGlassDrums
      @DanielGlassDrums 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Absolutely true. If you check out my Century Project DVD (upon which this video series is based), I talk much more about this subject in greater detail. This TH-cam series just scratches the surface compared to what's in the DVD.

    • @mathias841
      @mathias841 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanielGlassDrums is there old recordings in your dvd ? I'm searching but I don't find any of the first marching bands

  • @colinsneddon4844
    @colinsneddon4844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great contribution! historically accurate and enlightening! thanks so much.

  • @ummehabibaa5880
    @ummehabibaa5880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks to the drummer whoever invent that or else id me homeless today

  • @blica1
    @blica1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Bet you that most drum companies will come out with a "chair" snare stand after watching this.. Lol !..

    • @DanielGlassDrums
      @DanielGlassDrums 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I love this comment. You're so right!

    • @marcogil6665
      @marcogil6665 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still waiting

    • @dangerics
      @dangerics 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. They'll act all creative! Ha!

  • @shiningarmor2838
    @shiningarmor2838 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This guy is awesome

  • @abelparris1662
    @abelparris1662 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU! Very informative. We shall donate to the cause of drumming

  • @Riddim4
    @Riddim4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’ve done your homework. Much respect.

  • @peluzza7
    @peluzza7 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is the best sound of drums tune, amazing the sound is really great it is like satisfaction to sound big big and very clear sound.. congratulation for show this video...thanks :) gracias :)

  • @sirjcurry2182
    @sirjcurry2182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great info. Thanks.

  • @AndreasNystrom1
    @AndreasNystrom1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Swedish radio orchestra stage "Berwaldhallen" at 01:06

  • @spacecookies1197
    @spacecookies1197 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    im so addicted 2 history 😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @MrRicardoMartino
    @MrRicardoMartino 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Series

  • @OthO67
    @OthO67 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great doc on drums........Can't beat it!............heh-heh

  • @EvanGorczyk
    @EvanGorczyk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video was very helpful! I know im gonna get yelled at for this, but left hand holds the traditional grip

    • @DanielGlassDrums
      @DanielGlassDrums 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You're welcome. The left hand does hold the traditional grip ... unless you are a left handed drummer (which I am), in which case it's the other way around.

    • @EdwinPatar
      @EdwinPatar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hallelujah👑🎉

  • @phoebemallinson2799
    @phoebemallinson2799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is very intresting

  • @0253425
    @0253425 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gaston Hernandez....YES IT IS!!!

  • @Xholeda
    @Xholeda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok but I really want to know what’s the song playing in the background

  • @MrWillown
    @MrWillown 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What sort of songs/music were played with double drumming? Also, what's the difference between "From Ragtime to Rock" and "The Century Project" the descriptions are very similar.

  • @ClarkKasheta
    @ClarkKasheta 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Impressive.

  • @drumartstn
    @drumartstn ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it. Thanks ;)

  • @rapscallion52
    @rapscallion52 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what order am I supposed to watch these videos in? there's no playlist

    • @0509killer
      @0509killer 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      you're kidding right? the part with a number after it doesn't give you a clue?

    • @rapscallion52
      @rapscallion52 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      those weren't there when I asked

  • @adrianyuijanflores5243
    @adrianyuijanflores5243 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which part of the US was created the double drumming?

    • @DanielGlassDrums
      @DanielGlassDrums 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many parts. The drum set evolved throughout the country, although its first use in jazz was in New Orleans. Watch the next few episodes to learn more about that.

  • @Augfordpdoggie
    @Augfordpdoggie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice collar from 1972

    • @DanielGlassDrums
      @DanielGlassDrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Open collar look like what's on the DVD cover was already popular in the 1940s/50s.

  • @370TL
    @370TL 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Merica baby

    • @QLivin
      @QLivin 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🇺🇸

  • @mikegreen8938
    @mikegreen8938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy never heard of Congo Square.

  • @Sirfrensis
    @Sirfrensis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Someone knows what bass drum is it? Brand and size

    • @DanielGlassDrums
      @DanielGlassDrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1920s Ludwig and Ludwig. Pretty sure the dimensions are 26 x 14.

    • @Sirfrensis
      @Sirfrensis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanielGlassDrums thank you very much!!

  • @NOTSPAM-zq6js
    @NOTSPAM-zq6js 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍

  • @1andriks
    @1andriks 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    whats the song in intro?

  • @yasararfathkamali713
    @yasararfathkamali713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:39 thats indian folk nagada style drumming

  • @Goldsmithexile1960
    @Goldsmithexile1960 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Check out Sam Bennett's (Polarity records) amazing photos of unusual, unconventional and historic drum kits/sets

  • @GCorvetti
    @GCorvetti 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting :D

  • @amomonmonjha7155
    @amomonmonjha7155 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Drums were created in 1865
    People in 1864 :

  • @Kai-lm2qb
    @Kai-lm2qb 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:06

  • @mikegreen8938
    @mikegreen8938 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait did he say contribute more to American music😂😂 they had been contributing the entire time.

  • @skatedd2451
    @skatedd2451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Drumsticks

  • @therealogbaggy470
    @therealogbaggy470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Person drumset in 1801?

  • @jakubsychowski3539
    @jakubsychowski3539 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    song at the beginning?

    • @stephenchildress7275
      @stephenchildress7275 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the drum solo video from this series. You can find it on dw drums' channel

    • @MagZ1905
      @MagZ1905 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it is "Hey Pachuco" by Royal Crown Revue (Daniel play drums in the band)

    • @mghc7
      @mghc7 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      MagZ1905 was it daniel or mark stern..of youth brigade...mark was in the movie the mask but i dont know if he was the drummer on the recording

    • @jakubsychowski3539
      @jakubsychowski3539 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      eeeee macarena

    • @DanielGlassDrums
      @DanielGlassDrums 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Called "East Side Rumble," based on Royal Crown Revue's "Hey Pachuco." You can hear the entire song, as well learn much more about the history of the drum set on the "Century Project" DVD.

  • @bendawn-cross5622
    @bendawn-cross5622 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy left handed? His underhand grip is in his right hand.

    • @InsomniakDrums
      @InsomniakDrums 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes he is, which is why he plays a left-handed setup as well (snare on the right) :)

  • @charlesmiller7283
    @charlesmiller7283 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Although bag pipe music is in fact enema bop it really stinks...

  • @kidsplaywiiu9342
    @kidsplaywiiu9342 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this series kid friendly ?

  • @joehillmeyer5520
    @joehillmeyer5520 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did he really just say there was no blues right after the civil war?!?!

    • @abitofallofaaronson
      @abitofallofaaronson 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe Hillmeyer Definitely a contentious statement. Blues wasn't commercially accessible, hadn't been formalized, not until sometime between 1900 and 1910. But it did exist, in a sense, as work songs and hollers and spirituals. If one includes those types of song in the blues category, blues has been in the U.S. since slavers first brought African/African-American slaves to the U.S..
      But if you're a stickler about blues form (12 bars, I-IV-V progression, &c.) and publication/standardization, blues didn't exist until 1900-1910. But that's also a troublesome argument to make; it'd be to say that anthropologists, composers, and publishers of Western European descent defined what blues "really" is. I dunno. Hard to say how to look at it, at least for me. I'm no expert, just an enthusiast.
      How about you, Joe?

    • @DanielGlassDrums
      @DanielGlassDrums 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Joe Hillmeyer and Aaronson Bell. Thanks for your thoughts on this segment. The question I pose in the video is "What was the most POPULAR kind of music in America in 1865?" When I say there "was no blues, to speak of," it's because blues as an identifiable music style did not yet exist.
      Certainly, the elements that would come to define blues field hollers, work songs, spirituals and the "ring shouts" of Congo Square - were already in practice, but no one was documenting them in any way, and they were not on the radar screen of the vast majority of Americans. The first official "blues" song was not actually produced as sheet music until about 1909, and an identifiable style of music called "blues" (using the 12-bar format, etc) did not become widely popular in the US until the 1920s.

    • @joehillmeyer5520
      @joehillmeyer5520 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Aaronson Bell Well blues was around. So was jazz. The majority of the country (white folk) didn't enjoy listening to this type of music until the 1900's when the Harlem Renaissance started up in New York.

  • @vincentyap2589
    @vincentyap2589 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    drum started in china 3000 year ago

    • @johnbensinger4931
      @johnbensinger4931 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In Africa before that

    • @johnwettergreen8007
      @johnwettergreen8007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe it was Africa

    • @stizan9185
      @stizan9185 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@johnbensinger4931 Every ancient culture had drums

  • @jasonespinoza4873
    @jasonespinoza4873 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ni subtítulos tiene😑

  • @leonardmartin3153
    @leonardmartin3153 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Edward DEE DEE Chandler invented the drumset.........and his is BLACK

    • @just_ben1951
      @just_ben1951 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, but he used a type of overhang drum pedal visible in a photo.

  • @joehiggs100
    @joehiggs100 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate what you're trying to say in terms of the history of the modern drum kit but in your intro you say that before 1865 there were no blues or popular music other than marching bands. This is clearly not true.There was no jazz eh? Where do you think the rhythms came from and the melodies ? out of thin air ?

    • @InsomniakDrums
      @InsomniakDrums 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well to be fair...i believe you're thinking of the 1900s. Jazz and blues really weren't around until the LATE 1800s/early 1900s. Around the time he's speaking of (1865), 'bands' as we think of them today were not as common; we had marching bands, military bands, orchestras, etc. Nearly all popular music was in the form of marches, orchestral pieces, etc. And of course, different countries had different native styles of music at the time, but jazz and blues STILL were not prevalent until the late 1800s or so

    • @joehiggs100
      @joehiggs100 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      No popular music before 1865..religious music? No dance music provided by the slaves and indentured servants for the the plantation owners' parties which included classical pieces by visiting artistes, quadrilles, polkas etc. There are examples of popular music - even written down from the 1830s, Daddy Rice, Jim Crow Blues etc.There's an interesting site at www.americanmusicpreservation.com/Americanmusictimeline.htm#17thcentury. The history of the banjo is also instructive..en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banjo.. Best wishes,

    • @InsomniakDrums
      @InsomniakDrums 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bob Jones He's said in another comment, he's referring to POPULARIZED blues/jazz, in america; which there was basically none of.

    • @joehiggs100
      @joehiggs100 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure there wasn't jazz as we understand it today, but the roots were there, to start the piece to say there was no popular music apart from marching bands ( which weren't necessarily popular depending who's side you were on), is ahistorical.

    • @JohannesWiberg
      @JohannesWiberg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The music that is referred to as jazz, and that was originally called jass, developed during the 1910s out of several genres, mainly early blues, marching bands and ragtime. Blues as a style of music developed in the late 1800s but didn't sound like what we call music today until the early 1900s. So 1865, there was definitely no jazz or blues. YES there were precursors, but since one of them was marching bands, and that's where drumming was developed in those days, this documentary clearly makes sense to focus on that, while your comment makes no sense at all.

  • @BluesCat1980
    @BluesCat1980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No Blues he says.........wrong......wrong.....wrong.....

    • @DanielGlassDrums
      @DanielGlassDrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The blues certainly existed in the 1800s, but was not written down or "named" as such until the early 20th century and did not become a popular "style" until the 1920s.

    • @BluesCat1980
      @BluesCat1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DanielGlassDrums But the way it was phrased was saying, "No Blues to speak of". Yes, Blues existed even then whether it was considered popular or not.

    • @DanielGlassDrums
      @DanielGlassDrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BluesCat1980 If it wasn’t named “the blues” until the 20th century, then no one could have spoken of it in that term in the 19th century. Hence my use of the phrase “so to speak.“ Regardless, your point is taken, and I’ll do my best to be clearer in future.

    • @BluesCat1980
      @BluesCat1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DanielGlassDrums I myself am a Blues historian. I am involved with the Blues Foundation and teach kids about Blues in schools. I guess I'm just a huge fan of Blues and the history of it from its very humble beginnings to a worldwide phenomenon.

    • @DanielGlassDrums
      @DanielGlassDrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BluesCat1980 - Fantastic! Checked out some of your TH-cam videos and you are a very accomplished musician - great stuff. Love the T-bone Walker style on guitar! Hit me up via the email on my website, danielglass.com, and we can chat further! Peace, and all the best to you and yours.

  • @HaharuRecords
    @HaharuRecords 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, before this western people have no Idea about the percussions and how those many kind of rhythms can be applied to...Even though in Asia and Middles east where the drums are like the backbone of music and dance

    • @laurenanderson7330
      @laurenanderson7330 ปีที่แล้ว

      Drums were used before 1865 just not in a drum kit. This is the history of the drum kit, not drums.

  • @zammedRules
    @zammedRules ปีที่แล้ว

    Band is Marching Band.. nothing more

  • @GastonHernandezBateria
    @GastonHernandezBateria 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    subtitle in spanish please!.
    the english is not the unique lenguage on the world.

    • @kobisakzer8491
      @kobisakzer8491 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gaston Hernandez no mms wey

    • @DrummerJacob
      @DrummerJacob 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How rude of you to criticize the American company Vic Firth for making a free instructional video in the language of of the country in which they are headquartered.
      Spanish isn't the unique language of the world either, so maybe tell your Spanish speaking people to make world-class drumstick companies that make the best damn sticks on the planet, and then they can make the video in Spanish.

    • @tiberiu_nicolae
      @tiberiu_nicolae 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can hire a translator for spanigh subtitles if you send me the money