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It’s crazy to me how much people love the drive thru. Drive thru lines can be wrapped around the building twice in my town, so I just park and walk in. And no one is inside. I get my food way faster than the drive thru, people don’t wanna get out of their cars so bad they’re literally inconveniencing themselves to stay in it.
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You are lucky that you were served faster. In all of the places that I went to in my last town, drive thru was priority. Once I even stood waiting (after ordering and paying immediately, of course) while the 7th car in line got their food before I did.
@@lisayoder5686what city was that?! Thats backwards. Here in AZ, if you get out of the car and go in and its less empty inside youll get your food faster than the drive thru line.
That happened to me some years ago. After 7 months of the driver's window not rolling down, I had it repaired. But an amazing thing had happened in the interim. I had completely lost my appetite for fast food because I wasn't able to use the drive through option. I have not eaten fast food since and it was all thanks to a broken window!
I'm 66 and I don't eat fast food. I also walk to the grocery store - 1.5 miles RT. Walking to the store encourages me to buy less since I have to carry it back home.
i used to work at a mcdonald's taking orders for the drive-thru and, having watched this video, i now realise why i got sanctioned for asking a customer 'is that everything?' rather than 'would you like anything else?' after they had finished ordering. just a tool to entice them to make rash, impulsive decisions as it applies some level of pressure rather than closing down their opportunity to order more food unnecessarily.
Having worked at fast food, they also deliberately favor the drive thru and neglect the restaurant because that's where they make more money for less service. They want the customer to use the drive thru as much as possible.
For real, my supervisors at Jimmy Johns would come at me if I didn't try to ask customers if they wanted cheese on sandwiches that did not already come with cheese. One customer asked me why they didn't just put the cheese on the sandwiches already so I could quit asking. I just kind of... smiled at them until they figured it out.
Annoys the crap out of me because I try to list one thing, pause for a second to let them enter it, then say the next thing. You know, trying to be courteous rather than barking a list of things and risk them getting overwhelmed and making mistakes. Me:"Hi could I get a big Mac and..." Them:"is that all?" Me: "... a happy meal and..." Them:"is that all?" Me:"...plus two milkshakes and..." Them:"is that all?" Urgh
It's what you get when you combine ‘dark patterns’ with ‘nudges’. Both are a set of techniques used to get you to behave the way they want: Dark patterns have a negative connotation, like the cookie consent banners on websites after the implementation of the EU’s GDPR, where ‘Accept’ is filled in with the accent color, ‘Reject’ isn't, and ‘Manage’ is usually just underlined text. Nudge theory is a concept from behavioral economics, popularized by Richard Thaler’s book _Nudge_ (2008), with a neutral connotation, like setting the default in organ donation and PPF/401k forms to opt-out instead of opt-in, which greatly increases contributions.
@@deus_ex_machina_ Funny thing is my brain is now trained to look for anything but green. Though I realise that I am a minority. I have seen many people just mindlessly click the big green button.
i work in fast food right now and i can 100% tell you the dark nudging is super real. we have a sign on our window that says "make sure to upsell combos" and we're told to ask, after the customer says they're done ordering, if they want to add a 99¢ cookie to their order. we have to get our customers to spend more money and get more food, and it's so wild to be on the inside of that now
I used to work at a Dunkin Donuts and management wanted us to upsell so many things to drive thru customers that theyd get audibly annoyed. One of the reasons our location had more repeat customers than any other location was because it was the most poorly managed, so when management wasnt there, we never used these shady manipulation tactics on customers.
2 things I did while battling my food addiction was 1. If I wanted fast food, I HAD to go in store and get it. 2. Make sure I have convenient, home cooked food at home. This allowed me to make a decision on what I actually wanted. Coming home and microwaving was easier.
I've been taking these steps too. I rarely use drive thru's anymore and I make sure to go into the store. I also have been keeping freezer meals in my house so when I do want a quick easy "I don't really want to think" meal, I have something better than what they're trying to sell me
Birds Eye and Green Giant make veggie and lighter pasta steamers. You throw them in the microwave for a few minutes and they are done. Those helped me get through college and now I am using them again. That's definitely a convenience option that will help the sudden urge to snack and work well as sides of a meal for one or two people. They are far more healthy than a bag a chips but can give you a carb fix if you want.
I can understand how easy it is to end up with a food addiction. I had my annual/semi-annual McDonald’s binge last night, I rarely crave it but when I do I let myself have it ALL so I get grossed out by it and don’t want to bother with it again for another six months to a year. They put a bunch of papers in the bag advertising all the discounts I could get if I download the app. Then I thought “I only do this once or twice a year why would I need an account??” … and then I felt a sense of dread. That’s how they get people hooked, especially poor people.
I also don't the 'too much hassle' argument, surely going to wholefoods twice a week and making food in your own kitchen, in your dressing gown, with a beer and TV in the background, beats getting showered, dressed and driving across town twice a day to pay $20 for garbage 'fast' food.
@@jfinn3575 there’s no excuse, everyone passes at least 1 grocery store on the way home from work. No need to make an extra trip. I like my food super fresh so I only buy what’s going into the next dish the day of. I stopped eating fast food after I watched people open decade old packages of McDs that looked a couple days old.
@@jfinn3575 depends on how much you commute tbh. when i spent upwards of 20 hours a week commuting (my job involving driving, and no scheduled lunch break) i ate fast food for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. the healthiest things i ate during that six months were probably trail mix and protein bars from the gas station in between jobs. it was incredibly depressing and for that reason i very rarely eat fast food now. i love fresh veggies when i can get em. but at the time it's what i had to do, because making food and packing it was impossible while working 60+ hrs/week. i know some people can do that, but i'm not one of those people lol. i just wish a prepared salad didn't cost three times as much as a hamburger. i wish healthy, fresh food was just as accessible as fast food for everyone.
healthy food can be very tasty but it requires more effort and is more expensive rich people eat healthy, they can afford personal cooks or eat at fancy restaurants rich people don't poison themselves with fast food or ultra processed food they only eat food made of fresh organic ingredients and even things like ketchup and mayonnaise are made fresh without any harmful ingredients while the masses are fed ultra processed variants with long shelf life, coloring agents and cheap ingredients the sad thing is even ultra processed food that is supposed to be cheap isn't cheap anymore average working people spend large portion of their salary on food and many try to save on food and don't eat enough nutrients
@@winterbalm True, I see your point. But it also works the other way around. If you succumb to primitive impulses and buy fast food, you're not very smart or disciplined to begin with, so let's see how you become richer. You learn more about food, what's good and how to prepare it - that's how you become healthier and spend less on junk food. Therefore how you become richer, not just the other way around. 😁
I got fed up. Since around 2020, many of the Mcdonalds in my city started closing the restaurants in the evening with only the drive thru open. Many refuse to serve someone without a car. I am not going to purchase a car just to get fast food. It just goes to prove that fast food only cares about the drive thru. If you go inside you wait a long time and see they are prioritizinv the drive thru. I rather just use my air fryer. A lot of fast food prices are now the same price as a fancoer restaurant.
The dual lane drive thrus that merge into a single payment window actually make NOT want to get in line at all; don't want to deal with idiots in cars all around me.
I had a such a funny experience happen to me about a month ago at McDonald's... I was driving behind this guy and we were pulling up to that 2 lane drive-thru. I had a mobile order so I just had to say a code and drive up. So I drove up, but my lane is the outside lane, so when I was already 3 seconds driving forward, the dude drove up too, but I was obviously first. He didn't see it that way since "he was there first to order". He did some hand gestures at me, and I just drove past him. He was now behind me. So I drive up and past the pay window since I already paid online, and then I'm at the pick up window. I ordered some ice cream, but their machine was broken, so they refunded me by giving me cash. We were already waiting for a few minutes by then because they were cooking up the beef, so when I received the cash, the dude behind me layed on his horn for a solid 10 seconds😂 He was so mad. The worker was like wtf? It was 3pm on a Saturday too😂 The angry fat dude was probably mad that he thought I cut in front of him, then he thought I skipped the pay window and payed at the pick up window instead, which is what set him off to blare his horn😂 Funniest encounter I ever had at McDonald's😂
@@8thdayadventist911 Perception is everything - you're right about what he thought was going on because what he saw with his own eyes, yet was wrong....happens all the time in any possible situation, utterly random.
The double lanes are actually good. It helps a lot because of people who sit at the window and go "uhh give me a sec I want a uhhhhh" -- the ordering part frequently takes longer than the paying part.
Since getting a job in the meat department in a grocery store, The Wife and I rarely go out to eat, and when we did finally go to McDonald's a week ago, we spent almost $30 for only 2 meals! It was then that we decided that if we're paying that much, we can do better than fast food if we're going out.
Too bad the boxes of meat come in are previously frozen and sit in a warehouse 6months to a 2years make sure they loose as much nutrients as possible 😢
As a German living in Germany, I only knew Drive-In Diners from the one scene from The Flintstones and so thought it was one of the many funny "inventions" of that show. Now I'm 26 and I'm watching this video and learning for the first time that something like this really existed. It's crazy how much you can still learn.
I'm 24 years old. I was asked not long ago what my favorite fast food was and I didn't have an answer. Then they asked, "like when your out and want to get something, where do you go?". I feel like I am in an odd minority because, when I am out of the house, even if I get hungry, going to through a drive-thru literally does not occur to me. It doesn't even register as an option in my mind. I don't choose not to go for health reasons, I just always know, "there's food at home," and I wait. Convenience culture is so insidious. I'm not grandstanding, I just feel lucky that I wasn't caught by it like so many others. I have plenty of other weaknesses.
I feel the EXACT same as you. I’m 26. And part of it is health, or was, until it just became habit I guess. I’m currently laying in bed, got out of major surgery 24 hours ago to correct a severe internal birth defect. My body rejects low quality food. I’m also not grandstanding. I will legit throw up and get stomach cramps for days if I eat something my body even slightly disagrees with. Let me tell you, that trained me QUICK to eat as clean as possible. But the silver lining of my issues is that I have zero desire to eat fast food/convenience food. Like you, the option doesn’t even come into my mind.
My son is 28 and has never eaten drive thru food either. He only once had fast food that I just remembered. It was KFC chicken that a friend bought him after taking him to a football match. I dreaded that he would ask for it again. But no. He didn't like the fact it was so greasy and salty. Mum's cooking 1: KFC 0
I never went through a drive thru as a kid, my husband took me through one for the first time 😂 he got me a happy meal to commemorate. I still never go through them
My favourite fast food is Salad Story franchise here in Poland. It's exactly what the name suggests. You get a tasty and healthy salad within 5 mins. It's pretty expensive for a fast food but you actually get fresh produce
America is so different when it comes to drive-thrus. I'm from an European country (Poland) and here I often see drive-thrus being almost empty. Even people who arrived by car often leave it in the parking lot and go inside anyway.
prawda, czesto drive u mnie stoi puste, a jak ktos przyjedzie, to za nim moze 3/4 samochody ale w momencie kiedy wysłano mnie do restauracji (przy trasie wylotowej) z drive które miało nie jeden pas przyjmowania a dwa - przeraziłem się iloscia samochodow xD w mojej restauracji zazwyczaj nie ma az takiego ruchu, duzy szok
Same here in Greece. I can't even recall observing a single drive through, I think the only one I saw was Mc Donald's. It's such a weird concept, I mean if you're so bored to get to the restaurant just order it home, it's much cheaper than pay for all the gas to get there.
@@Constantinos_Is_Dead thats only recently become an option outside of pizza, and the delivery services (Uber Eats etc) are expensive. No way is it cheaper to pay someone to deliver to you (burning their gas and time) than it is for you to just burn your own gas. on a scale of laziness, ordering delivery is worse than going to get it in the drive through haha.
@@Mehwhatevr Not at all, delivery services have been existing at least since the early 90s in Athens for souvlaki as well. Coffee shops were not popular anyway back then so they didn't deliver at home.
Hi! I used to be a McDonald's manager for 2 years (in Australia), and there's a few things I'd like to add about Drive Thrus as a whole. Most fast food outlets use 2 lanes for multiple reasons, the main ones being psychological. Another major reason for 2 DT lanes is to compel the restaurant to work faster. Customers hate seeing both DT lanes full of waiting cars, but trust me when I say the staff working inside the restaurant hate it even more. As a manager our jobs were always to help keep the store moving, especially keeping the DT moving, and the only way to do that is to keep the kitchen moving quickly (the science behind the McDonald's kitchen layouts is itself an extremely, incredibly interesting study on human behaviour, restaurant design and ergonomics - however it is a very heavily guarded trade secret) Think of it as putting your finger over the end of a hose of water. When you do, the water comes out with a higher pressure, but its still the same amount of water coming out the end of the hose, just much faster. The same logic is applied to a drive thru. The speed at which cars leave the DT with their full meal needs to be TWICE as fast (2 minutes from Order End to Present End) as the speed in which cars are entering your drive through and placing their order (4 minutes, on average, on busy days). The faster speed which the DT moves though is overall to drive the impulse factor for customers driving past and seeing an empty queue. With the privacy/UV protectors on the digital screens in Drive Thrus (called Customer Order Displays, they're extremely expensive pieces of equipment but extremely sensitive to water, dust, sunlight and heat, so they break all the time and are actually one of the least cost effective pieces of equipment used by McDonald's) they mainly exist to make customers not feel bad about what they are ordering, not even kidding. A large driver behind the 'average cheque amount' (avg $ amount spent per visit) is a degree of self-consciousness people feel when ordering with others around them, especially with 2 lanes. The privacy screens were added to give customers peace of mind knowing they could order what they wanted and feel "less bad about themselves" at the same time, knowing that the people around them aren't reading/judging their orders (it's wild, I know). At the restaurant I worked at, the average cheque increased by about 50c per customer after the privacy screens were introduced.
That last part about the screens is honestly fascinating. I would have never thought about that. Cuz I feel like everyone who orders fast food feels embarrassed to some degree
@@annieclinkenbeard5323 you're absolutely right, most people do feel some degree of embarrassment - it varies for everyone but overall once people know they have more privacy, they always make the most of it. There was a noticeable difference in the way people placed their orders once the privacy screens were added - they almost sounded more confident
@@bendybus5165 I'm so glad I was born and raised in an Asian country where people don't eat fast food on a daily basis cause I'm so easily attempted and when surrounded with this many marketing traps It would be impossible to stay in shape 🥶
Just when I thought I couldn't hate drive-thrus any more, along comes this video. The fact that people would make an extra stop in the morning to wait in line burning gasoline for a $5 cup of coffee that you could make at home for pennies has always blown my mind.
Some people makes sense where they could easily buy the ingredients, but based on their schedule for work, those ingredients would go bad before they could use all of it. It would make sense to just pay somebody else to do it.
I agree. Occasionally, I do enjoy a coffee treat, but they are so bad for you! Its always almost 1/3 of your daily calorie needs, but it's all empty carbs and empty calories. I satisfy the coffee fiend in me by taking a to go mug of plain black coffee with me
Haven't been to a drive thru in months, but not being able to see the menu until I'm in the process of talking to the person taking my order was super frustrating. I always wondered why they wouldn't put a menu earlier in the line so people could look at the entire menu and get to think about it, makes sense that they want to rush you and order more than you want. Makes me want to go back even less.
Bwahahahahahaahha capitalists mass murder people via food every single day in many ways, and you better believe it's legal. No one in the USA has any sort of "human rights" as you may understand them. The food is the least of our problems
I work at Starbucks and we’re encouraged to connect with customers so that they come in more frequently to see the baristas. I love my customers but sometimes I feel bad because so many of them struggle with their weight and the drinks they order are usually super high in sugar, fat, and/or calories. Edit: That’s why a barista will ask for your name when taking your order. We are also told to refer to you by your name when handing out your order too. It feels super weird and employees don’t really like it but it’s literally corporate policy.
Don't beat yourself up. Y'all have espresso, lattes, cappuccinos, and Americano, which they don't have to add sugar to. They make the decision to get drinks so full of sugar and extra cream that they hardly taste like coffee anymore. It's their choice, not yours. If I have to get starbucks, like I'm on a roadtrip and need caffeine, I get a latte and dont add sugar to it. They could just as easily do the same if they cared about their weight (or in my case, my teeth and taste buds).
Ive come across so many Starbucks baristas that are very nice. For me, it's more good customer service though. I know they are there to work. Also don't feel bad, you are just doing your job. They could get black coffee or other low calorie stuff if they wanted to lose weight and still hang out at Starbucks.
That's why the barista treats you by your name! I'm from Europe and calling a customer by his first name ( ex: Daniel or Maria) without the "mr." Ou "ms." is viewed as not polite. One of the reasons I don't like starbucks, a place where overpriced coffee is sold by people that treat you like they know you from school.
A few years ago, I went INTO a McDonald's, and waited in line for over 15 minutes to place my order. Meanwhile, during those 15 minutes, the store had processed and completed transactions with over 20 'drive-thru' customers outside that window.When I finally got my food, it just so happened that it was the MOD that handed it to me. I said, "Hey man, you should prioritize the customers that actually come into your store, OVER those in the 'drive-thru' line. He said, "Sir. You don't understand. The people in the drive-thru, are, "in a hurry"! And I said, "No. We're all in a hurry, those people are just LAZY! It's fast-food, we're all in a hurry." And his response was something like, "You just don't understand, sir." He was polite but clueless.
I never realized just how different fast food culture is in the US compared to central Europe where I live. Most McDonalds in the big cities don't even have a drive through here because of the public transport.
Interesting. I don't know why people use public transportation. It doesn't go where you want to go when you want to go there, you can't take tools with you, and you're stuck in a confined space with a bunch of other people breathing all over you. Meanwhile, I'm alone in my truck. I can crank up the metal, I can smoke, I can pull over and piss, and I have my tools.
yes i agree. And it is not always that clear to know where the drive thru starts either. With some McDonalds i get the impression they would rather you get in, with all the "fancy" order and pickup devices they place everywhere.
Mcdonalds in big cities in the US rarely have drive thrus, but the culture is different because the US has far more medium sized cities/towns with drive thrus compared to European countries, simply by land mass and population size
This is so true, I have family in Canada and they get so much coffee on the go. I always make tea/coffee at home and take it with me. So much cheaper and less time consuming. I was baffled by the amount of fast food places, so glad I live in Europe🙈
Kiana! I haven't gone to a drive-thru ever since watching your video on ultra-processed "foods". Anything U.P. that was left in our house was eaten and not replaced, and for meals, we've been steadily eating simple meals of grilled meat, mixed green salad with homemade dressing, and occasionally some rice. If we don't want to cook, we get something made with real ingredients by human hands, like local Thai or Mexican. We're feeling so great! It's so effing easy to slip into the fast food bad habit, and they make it easier than ever now, as you've shown. I'm so glad to have found your channel. I see a lot of myself in you! One day at a time. Thank you for being here for us and for being such a motivating presence! 💖
you got this! it can be tricky to resort to the easy stuff, but not only is the diet healthier, you feel happier after eating a meal YOU made. it's a thing! either way it can be hard to juggle so kudos to you for not going back on it.
That’s awesome. I haven’t been to a drive-thru in years! Life is so much better when you mindfully just opt out of most of the consumerism that seems to have taken over the world.
Aww, shucks, guys 🌽 thanks for the support and kind words! 🥰 Kiana (& her wonderful community) helps me stay on track. We've got fresh salmon filets, salad, and rice to look forward to tonight! 🤤
My dad is military and was posted to Connecticut for a year (We're Canadian), and when I went to visit him I was floored by how many fast food restaurants.
I haven't eaten UPFs, refined carbs or added sugar since June 2023. In 6 months I completely reversed type 2 diabetes , lost 3 stone/19 kg/42 pounds, got my cholesterol normal and improved my digestion. I try to buy organic as much as possible, eat various probiotic foods and get loads of fibre to feed my microbiome. From being rather ill in June 2023 my recent bloods show I am healthy again. A switch like this was a little difficult to begin with but I soon found new products, developed recipes and got used to it all. The other day I picked up some fried chicken to reheat at home - it did have added sugar......I threw it in the bin after a couple of bites because it was so disgustingly sweet! This just reinforced how accustomed we become to sugar and how we can achieve the opposite.
@@The9thMonth I wouldn't want to go back. Being in my early 40s now I have to think about the quality of the rest of my life. So many diseases are now being linked to metabolic illness, both physical and mental.
Well done. That's amazing to hear. I did the same thing with sodas and soft drinks. I stopped drinking them completely a few years back. When I drink them now, they taste horrible
How do I say "Most people are dumb as fvck." without hurting their feelings or sounding elitist? 😂 Cause after all I'm dumb too, just not in this very specific avenue. 🤷♂
This was so interesting. I love this stuff. I also feel so validated. I was in line at Chick-fil-A that has this new system where they have their menus posted on these columns and the people are just standing there waiting for you to order and I HATED IT! I like to look at a menu (perhaps too long sometimes) bc I evaluate a lot of things (e.g. individual price of select items v. combo meals). I was getting so frustrated bc I couldn't read it from the passenger side and felt so pressured to order. My boyfriend was like JUST ORDER SOMETHING and it turned into a whole thing (I also was hangry) and I kept saying, "They are just doing this so I order the easiest thing to see which is most likely more expensive". So yes. I will be making him watch this. THANK YOU!
Ok, older guy here. Never was a huge fan of fast food, but I did occasionally enjoy that greasy-salty flavor hit. But over the past few years, I noticed that it just didn't taste right. It went from enjoyable to frankly disgusting. Is it me, or are they messing with the food? Or perhaps both?
Maybe you're just not used to it anymore and your brain perceives it differently. I used to hit diet soda all day every day until I stopped for a few weeks. When I tried to go back, it tasted so horrible.
You can train your palate/body to be repulsed by junk if you spend enough time away from it. Kinda like how vegetarians will get sick if they eat meat.
Yes. In my early 20s I depended on dollar menu items to eat on 2-3 dollars a day and could still enjoy it. Now it's $4 for one of the same items but tastes disgusting. Maybe I've just gotten that much better at cooking for myself, cuz every fast food item I used to love tastes so bad I can't even eat it. And it's more expensive.
I often see a drive-thru line wrapped around the building yet when I go into the place they may have 0-1 customers total inside. I always go in & can get my to-go order quickly because of it, while everyone else will sit for 5-15 minutes in line as their cars run burning up gas just for the "convenience".
My dad has always hated drive throughs, so every time he took me to a fast food place we would park and go in, no matter what. It should also be mentioned that he didn't take me to fast food much, and would always prefer a proper restaurant. Now that I think about it, it's a good habit. I make healthier choices as an adult.
Keep in mind too that they show you the deals on the front of the building and by the time you drive around to the menu you can't see those deals anymore.
I was at Starbucks last weekend to get my usual plain black cold brew. When I arrived, the drive-through line was ridiculously long and at a standstill. It was amazing to me that people would rather sit in their car for 30+ min than just park, walk in, and get their order in a fraction of the time.
@spOOkytimes - I sip coffee very slowly as a tool to help with intermittent fasting. So small sips only 2-3x per hour can make the 3 cups in a Venti last for like 5-7 days. 😆 It also works well because a $5 weekly coffee budget saves a ton of money. Versus people donating more of their money weekly to Starbucks with daily purchase. Plus, I like only having to make one trip to Starbucks per week. LOL
@NightmareRex6 - Black coffee with nothing added has zero cals and the caffeine blunts hunger. The mistakes that people make are : 1) Adding cream/sugar, etc to the coffee which causes an insulin spike. 2) Drinking it too fast, which makes the body adapt to caffeine, and it lessens the hunger blunting effects over time. **Black coffee still blunts my hunger over a decade later of doing IF because I've always had it black, and I sip it very slowly. So I've never adapted to it and don't get jittery, etc..
Thank you for spreading awareness about these manipulative tactics that influence our decisions and make us more prone to make unhealthy and harmful choices. Would LOVE to see a separate video on the apps!
I do not go to fast food restaurants very often, and I often find myself feeling rushed in line because I can’t see the menu, so I will look it up on my phone, and I’ve always wondered why they didn’t put a menu board up maybe two or three cars before so that you can pick out what you want and be faster, but now I understand that it’s for impulsive behavior purposes and I will certainly always pull the menu up of the restaurant before I hop in the drive-through line so I have my order already in mind. Thank you for this video
I probably use a fast food drive thru about 8-10 times a year, and I agree with you. I would love to have an idea of what is available prior to getting the microphone. I find it very stressful to have someone ask me my order, when I have no idea yet. It backfires with me. I normally order less just to get out of there.
It's so ironic that McDonalds keeps talking about the importance of "personal choices" (like they did with the John Cisna case), while manipulating those choices for you to make the wrong one.
and now they're freaking out cause people are boycotting 😂 dude, actions have consequences. i'm not going to support someone that's directly funding genocide
@@beckyscleanersock8395 Were you even paying attention to the video? The whole point is that people are being manipulated and they don't even realize it.
@@WobblesandBean nobody makes you do things, you ALWAYS decide in the end. Your victim mindset is hilarious though, blaming everyone else but yourself for your decisions. Enjoy being miserable with that reasoning
Drive thrus have never made sense to me. Why would you wait in line for like 10 minutes wasting fuel when you can just park up and walk in? I guess people nowadays are too lazy
I've lost 80lbs and have very few hard rules for myself, but one of my only rules is NO drive thru's. EVER. Not being allowed to go through the drive thru seriously discourages me from eating fast food. So glad you're covering this.
I’m currently on a healthy journey to lose 60 pounds while taking care of my grandmother with dementia. I just woke up to her having cleaned out all the closets- and everything scattered in the garage. Now I have an extremely good video to clean up to now, thank you Kiana. ❤️
Just want you to know that your work is valuable, even though I dont know you, nor am I the one benefiting directly from it. Care work is extremely important and necessary, its what has kept communities standing for centuries, and even if no one recognizes it I want you to know that you are doing for your grandma is incalculable and meaningful
I’m right there with you! It’s so hard to diet while taking care of my grandmother with dementia…I feel like my will power is already worn down from all the stress! But we can do this!
@@evilcorgi1367 Why has the obligation fallen to you? Why is a home not an option, other than cost? Stress is far more deadly than you think. It ages you and will cause arterial plaque buildup faster than any bad dietary choice. Stress alone is the primary factor in heart disease, we found that out a while ago. I just want you to know it's ok to prioritize yourself. Your health matters.
On any given day my local Tim Hortons has 20 to 30 cars lined up for drive thru. Why? The restaurant is jam packed with seniors who order one coffee and sit at tables all day. Management does nothing about it
I have 3 small children, going on a long outing can make the drive thru so tempting, but I try very hard to feed my kids healthy foods so I started storing granola bars, meat sticks and dried fruit in my van. Yes it makes a mess sometimes, but it tides us over and prevents us from eating junk when we're out. We'll park somewhere and the snack is usually enough to keep them satisfied. We only went through the drive thru 4 times last year mostly because we traveled
I'm not a fan of fast food, but businesses with drive thruoughs are a convenience I depend on. As a disabled person, getting in and out of the car is difficult. So I go to a pharmacy that has a drive thru. Or if I want a fancy coffee, I go to a Starbucks with a drive thru. Also, one of the best things to come out of the pandemic is curbside pickup. I order my stuff online, drive to the store and an employee brings the items to my car and puts them in my car. I only have to deal with it when I get home where I have a friend help me get things up to my apartment. It's just an unfortunate truth that even good things can cause bad outcomes. Like people getting many of their meals at a fast food drive thru. But for a disabled person, these conveniences are a blessing.
It's a blessing when I have the dog with me too. Sugar is crashing on the way home from the dog park? Drive through Starbucks for a breakfast sandwich! of course, the trick is to manage my eating so that my sugar doesn't crash, but you know, ADHD problems...
And yeah, half the time I use the drive through pharmacy, it's because I have the dog with me and otherwise I would go weeks without my medication because I never drove past without the dog!
So true. I often see elderly and disabled people that benefit from delivery, pick up, and drive thru services, especially with heavy items like pet food.
I think the solution to this would be more healthy and affordable restaurants with drive thrus. Healthy food should be accessible, I'm tired of eating cheap sludge that makes my conditions worse
The good news is that these days fast food places are also doing all they can to de-incentivize people from buying what they're selling. The drive thru lines go on forever and don't move, the food is cold and way, way overpriced...a total adverse experience. I will admit I used to stop at these places on days when I was lacking energy, maybe a few times a month. But I no longer feel any temptation at all. Videos like this are really helpful because I think we all need to understand just how manipulative businesses are in general...increasingly so in recent years. "Dark nudges" are all over the majority of shopping websites and apps. Fake sales, fake countdown timers, fake low inventory. All to get us to act impulsively.
Kiana, could you do a video on how car dependency relates to increasing obesity rates and its impact on health, not only from an activity perspective but also an isolationist perspective? I recently travelled to the EU and the differences are staggering. As someone who is unable to drive, (and subsequently unable to get around in America/leave my home to the point where it negatively impacts my health) it honestly makes me so sad for myself, other mobility-impaired/disabled individuals, and America as a whole.
A few years ago I'd hit up the McDonald's drive thru 3 or 4 times a week. Quick, convenient, on my way home. Last year I made a promise to myself to get fast food no more than once a month. I've been sticking to that promise. My last impulse purchase was a mountain bike.
Thank you for being here! I'm just an old unrepentant sex, drug, and rock & roller who didn't conform. But the last couple years I've been watching stuff like yours and the people explaining narsissism and bless you, your like icing on the cake! I started figuring out in my late teens CENSORED was messed up. Thanks again for filling in some details!
Also just a terrible place in general. I worked the McDonald’s drive through (called the “dungeon” or “hell hole” by coworkers..) and was abused from the very beginning. Not trained, drinks thrown back at my face, standing in backed-up sewer water! Ew! People in the kitchen would drop food on the dirty floors and serve it to customers anyways.
I once worked at a fast food restaurant, long ago, just for 3 months on the run-up to Christmas. I frequently saw staff abusing food. It wasn't just food being picked up off the floor, or failure to wash hands, one girl drew a quick picture on the inside of a burger bun with a pen, wrapped up the burger and gave it to a customer.
I've noticed at dairy Queen, inside, the menu go away completely to show one of those "cinematic" shots of the blizzard of the month. And then go back to the menu but only for like 20 seconds. It's like "can I please just see my options here!!"
Drive-thrus are anxiety inducing for my asd brain. Fast food restaurants get my order wrong more often than not. And correcting a messed up order from the drive-thru is super inconvenient. It's so frustrating that I'll usually not order what I really want and opt for something less likely to get messed up. And I hate digital menu boards that are constantly changing, flashing up different stuff. I'll catch a glimpse of something that looks interesting, then BAM!! it flashes to something else before I can get a good look at it making me wait for it to cycle through hoping my adhd doesn't get sidetracked before it reappears.
The bad display has entirely backfired with me. I haven't had drive through in a few years, so on a road trip I sometimes think of treating myself as I'm off getting gas. I roll into a drive through line, and try to figure out what I'd like. I find not being able to see the menu until the last minute so overwhelming that I drive right through without ordering almost every time. almost every time bc even I sometimes still grab a small Diet Coke with no ice for the caffeine. McDonalds ran an ad recently about how you could go to McD for just a drink, but that's hard to do since there are so many great options, and I smiled every time it came on since I haven't gotten more than a drink from them in over 10 years, despite wanting more
i take a long time to choose what i want, even at actual proper restaurants. i don't really eat fast food unless with someone (boyfriend, family, friend, etc) but i start browsing the online menu for a place at least 5 or so minutes before we're actually there so i can properly decide and figure out what i want, as well as look at the nutritional info. it helps that i dont drive so im able to do it lmao and i dont really like eating beef
I moved to a major city recently without my car and I finally managed to curb my binging. Needing to expend energy to bike anywhere or needing to wait extra long on public transit has kept me from impulse purchases and it’s interesting to hear some of the science behind that. Thank you Kiana for all the help in changing many of my habits :)
I'm from West Virginia which is the highest adult obesity in all 50 states. I am pretty fit, Marine Scout Sniper Vet, and just finished first in my Police academy PT test. I did my senior high school project on "teenage obesity in America" and got a scholarship for it. I am happy 6 years sober, and not sure how long I stopped eating fast foods and switched to a home cooked KETO diet. Thank you for keeping us informed about the progressive adaptability of the massive corporations who want our money and to keep us unhealthy as a whole.
The fact that 70% of revenue in America is thanks to drive-thrus is crazy. Cultural differences I guess. My local McDonalds, that's located on the main road towards the capital, gets like 5-10 cars per day, according to my friend who works there. 90% of all customers arrive by foot.
The automobile absolutely obliterated this country. Yes, on the short-term it revolutionized the country. Long-term? It's clear we're in way too deep. It's probably the biggest reason why I'm leaving.
I was just about to comment this! Here in Northern Europe they're not nearly as popular as in the US. Personally drive throughs give me the ick because they make me feel so lazy/slobby lol.
Definitely a culture thing. We have car culture in the US, because we based our entire infrastructure around cars. We often have long distances to travel through various weather conditions and questionable neighborhoods, so a car is often more safe and faster. It's far better to walk and bike and many major cities are implementing better public transit, biking, and walking options.
I have a confession to make. I haven’t watched your last one or two videos because I’m feeling a little guilty for myself as I have been off the diet these past weeks 😔😔
Try to make little steps back to the diet and not just go back to it all in one day... baby steps work sometimes when we aren't feeling 100% motivated. Don't be too harsh on yourself, I'm sure you'll get back there. Take care x
@@coupe2563 I am mindful… though I haven’t gained weight, I just haven’t been losing the weight I had initially planned, and I feel guilty whenever I see Kiana updates coz she inspired me in the first place 😔
Wow, all these concepts you mention in behavioral economics can be applied to a lot of other areas in our lives too. That was a lot of information, and I'm going to have to rewatch this video later. I love when you put out these types of videos, they really help reinforce the idea that the way I feed myself is an act of resistance. It's powerful. Thank you.
Yeah, it's good that places will be vying to put chargers in, but they are only doing it to sell you something, much like they did with gas stations selling junk food and drinks.
I had a fast food addiction when i was a Handyman (about 10 years), so convenient and addictive. When i hit my 40's the combo meals made me so tired i just started ordering a burger or a couple tacos no sides. My wife never ate fast food and my kids all stopped at about 12 years old. So i was out on a limn by myself, hiding the packaging before anyone got in my truck. I started a catering company and that changed my lifestyle and schedule, haven't had fast food in 4 years, except for an occasional Taco Bravo with my Son. Sometimes your life has to change to make changes unfortunately. We still love burgers, but never from fast food restaurants.
Did you know that Burger King started doing deliveries in the traffic jam in Mexico City, the traffic is so bad that they can now take your order and they will deliver it to you (they used bikes to deliver) business is booming! Great video!
As someone with a eating disorder (due to my autism) who only eats a couple of things it’s funny in a way seeing how a lot of these manipulative factors won’t affect me since I always know what I’m going to eat before I leave the house. Which for McDonald’s it’s only fries and a sweet tea every time if they tried offering me anything more than that I’d be so confused and wonder who they’re talking to 😅 I also don’t even look at the menu when at the drive-thru in general. I’ll always just look up the menu online before even driving to any fast food place I never been too yet, but know is on the way as a way to make sure it’d even have anything for me and my specific eating habits.
Same!! Im very adverse to new foods or current foods tasting different, and always know what im ordering way before hand, so seeing how much the advertising relies on impulsivity is kinda funny? I always used to think “why do they have those ads there about their limited or new product? those ads never work on anyone, we already know what we’re ordering.” only to learn that, people DONT know what their ordering before they get to the menu is mind blowing! reminds me of how i didn’t understand the whole safe foods thing, since everything i actually eat is a safe food xD
Always hated drive throughs because I felt rushed to make a choice in the order zone. Plus, it feels highly impersonal. Thank you for this great video. Love your channel!
McDonalds in my country has taken away the service counter when you order in. Instead you order at big screens and pay through the app. I hadn't been to McDonald in a few years and after experiencing that, I don't plan on ever going back. So that's a win 😅
requiring dang phone numbers is why i lost so meany google accounts they FORCEd me to add a phone number and i KNEW FOR A FACT i would loose it but had NO OTHER CHOICE. lost ALOT HELLAVA LOT MORE to modern ""secururity"" protocalls than from the "Scary hackers" themselves!!!!
Kiana I just wanted to say thank you for the UPF video. After watching it I have read the Ultra Processed People book, which completely put me off eating UPFs. The switch was easier than I expected because I became disgusted with those foods as a I read. It's been almost a month since I've been eating healthier and I feel so much better already. Thank you! :)
My father always told me to always buy food once you've eaten. If you're hungry and you buy food, you'll buy more what you need or buy what you don't need, however, if you buy food once you've eaten, you'll buy what you need and not impulse buy.
yeah, my parents taught me this as well. never go to a restaurant dying of hungry because you gonna probably buy more than you gonna actually eat and never go buy the monthly groceries hungry as well because you gonna buy more than you need.
Here in Chicago, in the 80s, there was a drive thru funeral home with drive thru visitation. I dont know if it still operates. Totally freaky though...😮
Kiana, i know i comment pretty frequent, but i really want to emphasize how much your videos have been helping me on my journey through health & weight loss. I inherently hate being manipulated and will avoid things on principles alone. Thankfully, it's been a while since I kicked the drive-thru habit, but it's just another reason to make my own healthy, tasty food at home! Thank you for all you do. I'd love to see a newsletter from you!
Is there something with the psychology of people with autism and advertising ? I feel impervious to food advertising. If I’m at a Starbucks drive thru for a black coffee there is no way I’ll be adding anything else to my order. I have ADHD too so it’s not like I’m not impulsive too
I force myself to walk to a place every time I have to eat out. That way, I'm not tempted as by laziness, convenience, and temptation and I get a bit of exercise and fresh air
I didn't realize how small of a minority I am. I absolutely HATE drive-throughs. I can count on one hand the number of times I have used them, even during COVID. I will even go out of my way to not use drive-throughs. Even as a kid I hated when my parents used them.
I just realised that I have never even once gone through drive-thru. I am Finnish and we do have them, but our car culture is way different than the one in USA so my family has never felt the need to use any. We rarely eat fast food and when we do, it's occasion so we want to eat inside. Also eating in cars is not a big thing at all here. Some people order in drive-thru but they usually go home/to party/to work to eat there, not in the car.
The most sickening thing is that throughout this video I've been getting more and more McDonalds cravings, and I rarely eat there to begin with. Just the mention and thought of it is activating my lizard brain self.
I always find this peculiar, because I think the times I've eaten at a fastfood restaurant in my entire life I can count probably on the fingers of one hand, maybe two. And I never experience such cravings for (fast)food.
@@silent_moshi didn’t you listen the video, eh? It is McDonalds fault, although fault isn’t really the correct word to use here. Its their doing and intention. It’s a craving that comes as a result of their ultaprocessed foods, their marketing and the psychology they utilise.
You’re literally the only person I would want to receive an email from, I hope you decide to do it! Also the new style of your content is incredible and so informative, and has already led me to make better decisions in my life. Thank you Kiana ♥️
Same! I'm from Northern Europe and drive-thrus just... kinda sit there? And most people prefer buying from inside anyway. Literally ignore the drive-thru lane, park the car, go inside, buy food, get in the car, drive away 😂
In the UK, drive-thrus are a bit more popular than in continental Europe, but the "default" here is still walking up to the inside and ordering, or getting food delivered.
Well, yeah. We don't drive hours on end just so we can buy food and/or go to work. Hence so much of the cultural differences. Bet you if I was so damn tired of working and driving all the God damn time, I'd be prone to shutting down my brain too and just going with the flow of eating delicious junk time after time. 😂
Well any given European country is like a tenth the size of the U.S. I mean hell, UK is the size of Texas. No biggie we're just bigger and better no sweat
I truly admire the amount of detail you have in your videos. I can tell how hard you work and how much research you do. You're one of my favorite channels!
I think the reason McDonalds and Tim Hortons has the split in their drive through lines is that the person taking the orders doesn't have to wait between customers. The double line is about maximizing employee output rather than tricking customers
I used to go to McDs during my lunch break, which is when everyone else went, so the drive-thru line wrapped around the whole lot. Guess what? I'd park my car, get the food pretty much instantly, return to my car, and only one car moved up. So yes, you're right. Most people are that lazy to just SIT THERE.
@@Vladiator i just feel like you spend the same amount of time going through a drive thru and ordering or even more when compared to putting something together at home. I’ve been getting really into breakfast quesadillas and it tastes better, costs less AND makes me feel more full:)
These days a lot of drive thrus only offer the illusion of convenience, not the reality. Many people’s heads are too buried in the sand to notice, though. For me it’s obvious because I don’t own a car and so I know for a fact it’s quicker to get off your butt and go in. Personally, I detest waiting in a long drive thru line, can’t stand the bad sound quality of most of the speakers and the interfering road noise, hate seeing double lines because too me that (correctly) equates to longer waits, hate the hard to see menu, etc.
All I'd be thinking about is how much gas I'm wasting idling around for a while. And the fact that you can't plan what you order before you get up to the menu. And if I so happen to change my mind, I can actually well... wow... leave the line if I go inside. I don't get sandwiched in! Not that I even eat fast food, too expensive when you can often go to a bit nicer place for about the same price now.
Very interesting.👍🏻 I learned as an undergrad in psych 101 that one of the sub-fields of psychology is industrial/organisational psychology. So basically all of the other branches of the profession are aimed at helping people, while I/O psychology aims to squeeze more $ out of people for the sole purpose of helping big companies. I stopped eating fast food many years ago. I don’t even consider it food. You hit the nail on the head when you said “dystopian”! We’re already living in the future that “Idiocracy” predicted almost 20 years ago.
Thanks Kiana! Another great video about behavioural science and how corporations use it make money from manipulating us. The great thing is that we can use behavioural science to help ourselves. Mindfulness is key!!
Well I'm American and I find this really strange too. Americans have this perverse and slavish devotion to their cars, it unlike anywhere else in the world where a car is just a tool to move.
@@1marcelfilms blind doesn’t always mean completely blind. it can mean very limited vision. other than that, you can enjoy content through just listening. podcasts are huge right now for a reason.
The best way to not fall prey is to boycott entirely. I self imposed a boycott of ALL American fast food restaurants when I was around 16 years old. It's amazing how much additional space to think it provides when you can ignore every fast food restaurant around you.
At Wendy's we're taught to upsell by making you think your only options are medium and large, to pay more money. If someone says "Can I get a number 1?" I was trained to say "Medium or large?" The most common order: burger with a medium fry and medium Coke, specifically
@CrazyBear65 if you sound nice and uncertain I will absolutely try to sell you a cookie and 8 times out of 10 I sell it. If you sound sure of yourself I don't bother.
@@rainaw297 Why are you pushing cookies on people you serve? Do you think it makes you a good person to give profits to the evil corporation who pays you utterly abysmally?
The amount of research that clearly goes into your videos is impressive. Especially compared to a lot of the low effort "video essays" on TH-cam. That drive thru car dealership was hilarious.
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Would love a newsletter, but I have signed up twice for your course and even bought your book and have never heard anything from you. (EDIT: to clarify I did receive the immediate download for the amazing workbook, just no further communications or newsletters)
@@lauraanne5175 You didn't even receive the book? Wtf
It’s crazy to me how much people love the drive thru. Drive thru lines can be wrapped around the building twice in my town, so I just park and walk in. And no one is inside. I get my food way faster than the drive thru, people don’t wanna get out of their cars so bad they’re literally inconveniencing themselves to stay in it.
Hoping for Kiana collabs with urbanist channel (Not Just Bikes, Strong Towns, CityNerd, Alan Fisher etc.) on the topic of how obesity was viewed from urban planning perspective
that's hilarious
Seriously! Its faster to go inside. People are so lazy now.
You are lucky that you were served faster. In all of the places that I went to in my last town, drive thru was priority. Once I even stood waiting (after ordering and paying immediately, of course) while the 7th car in line got their food before I did.
@@lisayoder5686what city was that?! Thats backwards. Here in AZ, if you get out of the car and go in and its less empty inside youll get your food faster than the drive thru line.
Stopped eating fast food about 15 years ago...because my driver's side window broke and wouldn't roll down 😂
🤣 That's awesome
That happened to me some years ago. After 7 months of the driver's window not rolling down, I had it repaired. But an amazing thing had happened in the interim. I had completely lost my appetite for fast food because I wasn't able to use the drive through option. I have not eaten fast food since and it was all thanks to a broken window!
That never stopped my grandma
@@JesseVenturaHat
Never stopped my mom 😂
Similar story, but I own a Bike and not a car. Around here they do not serve motorcyclists thru the drive thru.
I'm 66 and I don't eat fast food. I also walk to the grocery store - 1.5 miles RT. Walking to the store encourages me to buy less since I have to carry it back home.
Smart! :) I go shopping by bicycle. For me it's less the weight but what my backpack can hold.
Dont walk. Run. Much more healthy gets ur heart pounding
Same! Less impulsive buying because I don’t wanna carry it all back and then up 3 flights of stairs
I do the same.
This is brilliant. Love how you hit so many targets with one strategy.
i used to work at a mcdonald's taking orders for the drive-thru and, having watched this video, i now realise why i got sanctioned for asking a customer 'is that everything?' rather than 'would you like anything else?' after they had finished ordering. just a tool to entice them to make rash, impulsive decisions as it applies some level of pressure rather than closing down their opportunity to order more food unnecessarily.
Having worked at fast food, they also deliberately favor the drive thru and neglect the restaurant because that's where they make more money for less service. They want the customer to use the drive thru as much as possible.
For real, my supervisors at Jimmy Johns would come at me if I didn't try to ask customers if they wanted cheese on sandwiches that did not already come with cheese.
One customer asked me why they didn't just put the cheese on the sandwiches already so I could quit asking. I just kind of... smiled at them until they figured it out.
Annoys the crap out of me because I try to list one thing, pause for a second to let them enter it, then say the next thing. You know, trying to be courteous rather than barking a list of things and risk them getting overwhelmed and making mistakes.
Me:"Hi could I get a big Mac and..."
Them:"is that all?"
Me: "... a happy meal and..."
Them:"is that all?"
Me:"...plus two milkshakes and..."
Them:"is that all?"
Urgh
So true!! You also had to entice them to take the large option
As a McDonald’s employee, it is your duty to promote additional sales, not to look after customers’ health.
The term "dark nudge" is so hilarious to me. It's like the corporate version of "abusive relationship".
McDiddy do it? 😂
@@em0_tion ha, McTruth
It's what you get when you combine ‘dark patterns’ with ‘nudges’.
Both are a set of techniques used to get you to behave the way they want:
Dark patterns have a negative connotation, like the cookie consent banners on websites after the implementation of the EU’s GDPR, where ‘Accept’ is filled in with the accent color, ‘Reject’ isn't, and ‘Manage’ is usually just underlined text.
Nudge theory is a concept from behavioral economics, popularized by Richard Thaler’s book _Nudge_ (2008), with a neutral connotation, like setting the default in organ donation and PPF/401k forms to opt-out instead of opt-in, which greatly increases contributions.
@@deus_ex_machina_ Funny thing is my brain is now trained to look for anything but green. Though I realise that I am a minority. I have seen many people just mindlessly click the big green button.
i work in fast food right now and i can 100% tell you the dark nudging is super real. we have a sign on our window that says "make sure to upsell combos" and we're told to ask, after the customer says they're done ordering, if they want to add a 99¢ cookie to their order. we have to get our customers to spend more money and get more food, and it's so wild to be on the inside of that now
That was true when I worked the drive-thru in the 80s
Yeah to be fair every business does it, servers are incentivized to upsell wine and specials etc 🤷
I used to work at a Dunkin Donuts and management wanted us to upsell so many things to drive thru customers that theyd get audibly annoyed.
One of the reasons our location had more repeat customers than any other location was because it was the most poorly managed, so when management wasnt there, we never used these shady manipulation tactics on customers.
2 things I did while battling my food addiction was
1. If I wanted fast food, I HAD to go in store and get it.
2. Make sure I have convenient, home cooked food at home.
This allowed me to make a decision on what I actually wanted. Coming home and microwaving was easier.
this is a really good habit. Meal prepping is great.
I've been taking these steps too. I rarely use drive thru's anymore and I make sure to go into the store. I also have been keeping freezer meals in my house so when I do want a quick easy "I don't really want to think" meal, I have something better than what they're trying to sell me
Birds Eye and Green Giant make veggie and lighter pasta steamers. You throw them in the microwave for a few minutes and they are done. Those helped me get through college and now I am using them again. That's definitely a convenience option that will help the sudden urge to snack and work well as sides of a meal for one or two people. They are far more healthy than a bag a chips but can give you a carb fix if you want.
I can understand how easy it is to end up with a food addiction. I had my annual/semi-annual McDonald’s binge last night, I rarely crave it but when I do I let myself have it ALL so I get grossed out by it and don’t want to bother with it again for another six months to a year. They put a bunch of papers in the bag advertising all the discounts I could get if I download the app. Then I thought “I only do this once or twice a year why would I need an account??” … and then I felt a sense of dread. That’s how they get people hooked, especially poor people.
I eliminated DoorDash from my phone. It’s amazing how much less I order in now that I have to go get it 😊
Anyone that says healthy, home cooked meals aren’t palatable, doesn’t know how to season food.
I also don't the 'too much hassle' argument, surely going to wholefoods twice a week and making food in your own kitchen, in your dressing gown, with a beer and TV in the background, beats getting showered, dressed and driving across town twice a day to pay $20 for garbage 'fast' food.
@@jfinn3575 there’s no excuse, everyone passes at least 1 grocery store on the way home from work. No need to make an extra trip. I like my food super fresh so I only buy what’s going into the next dish the day of. I stopped eating fast food after I watched people open decade old packages of McDs that looked a couple days old.
@@jfinn3575 depends on how much you commute tbh. when i spent upwards of 20 hours a week commuting (my job involving driving, and no scheduled lunch break) i ate fast food for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. the healthiest things i ate during that six months were probably trail mix and protein bars from the gas station in between jobs.
it was incredibly depressing and for that reason i very rarely eat fast food now. i love fresh veggies when i can get em. but at the time it's what i had to do, because making food and packing it was impossible while working 60+ hrs/week. i know some people can do that, but i'm not one of those people lol. i just wish a prepared salad didn't cost three times as much as a hamburger. i wish healthy, fresh food was just as accessible as fast food for everyone.
healthy food can be very tasty but it requires more effort and is more expensive
rich people eat healthy, they can afford personal cooks or eat at fancy restaurants
rich people don't poison themselves with fast food or ultra processed food
they only eat food made of fresh organic ingredients and even things like ketchup and mayonnaise are made fresh without any harmful ingredients
while the masses are fed ultra processed variants with long shelf life, coloring agents and cheap ingredients
the sad thing is even ultra processed food that is supposed to be cheap isn't cheap anymore
average working people spend large portion of their salary on food and many try to save on food and don't eat enough nutrients
@@winterbalm True, I see your point. But it also works the other way around. If you succumb to primitive impulses and buy fast food, you're not very smart or disciplined to begin with, so let's see how you become richer. You learn more about food, what's good and how to prepare it - that's how you become healthier and spend less on junk food. Therefore how you become richer, not just the other way around. 😁
I got fed up. Since around 2020, many of the Mcdonalds in my city started closing the restaurants in the evening with only the drive thru open. Many refuse to serve someone without a car. I am not going to purchase a car just to get fast food. It just goes to prove that fast food only cares about the drive thru. If you go inside you wait a long time and see they are prioritizinv the drive thru. I rather just use my air fryer. A lot of fast food prices are now the same price as a fancoer restaurant.
that is insane!!!
I was allowed in the drive-through on my bicycle just fine.
The dual lane drive thrus that merge into a single payment window actually make NOT want to get in line at all; don't want to deal with idiots in cars all around me.
It actually stopped me going to McD
I had a such a funny experience happen to me about a month ago at McDonald's...
I was driving behind this guy and we were pulling up to that 2 lane drive-thru. I had a mobile order so I just had to say a code and drive up.
So I drove up, but my lane is the outside lane, so when I was already 3 seconds driving forward, the dude drove up too, but I was obviously first. He didn't see it that way since "he was there first to order". He did some hand gestures at me, and I just drove past him. He was now behind me.
So I drive up and past the pay window since I already paid online, and then I'm at the pick up window.
I ordered some ice cream, but their machine was broken, so they refunded me by giving me cash.
We were already waiting for a few minutes by then because they were cooking up the beef, so when I received the cash, the dude behind me layed on his horn for a solid 10 seconds😂
He was so mad. The worker was like wtf? It was 3pm on a Saturday too😂
The angry fat dude was probably mad that he thought I cut in front of him, then he thought I skipped the pay window and payed at the pick up window instead, which is what set him off to blare his horn😂
Funniest encounter I ever had at McDonald's😂
@@8thdayadventist911 Perception is everything - you're right about what he thought was going on because what he saw with his own eyes, yet was wrong....happens all the time in any possible situation, utterly random.
The double lanes are actually good. It helps a lot because of people who sit at the window and go "uhh give me a sec I want a uhhhhh" -- the ordering part frequently takes longer than the paying part.
Sounds like you’re the idio in that case
Since getting a job in the meat department in a grocery store, The Wife and I rarely go out to eat, and when we did finally go to McDonald's a week ago, we spent almost $30 for only 2 meals! It was then that we decided that if we're paying that much, we can do better than fast food if we're going out.
Absolutely. It's nonsense that junk food costs more than real food. You just need to know how to shop and cook. Plenty of advice online.
Any time I’m craving anything like McDs I just go to the grocery store and pick up a whole rotisserie chicken for
Too bad the boxes of meat come in are previously frozen and sit in a warehouse 6months to a 2years make sure they loose as much nutrients as possible 😢
@@ElinWinblad Still better than McDonald's!
McDonald's was barely worth it before. it's so not worth it anymore with the way their prices are rising and the quality, somehow, drops further
As a German living in Germany, I only knew Drive-In Diners from the one scene from The Flintstones and so thought it was one of the many funny "inventions" of that show. Now I'm 26 and I'm watching this video and learning for the first time that something like this really existed. It's crazy how much you can still learn.
We even have drive thru liquor stores (in my area) it’s literally everywhere it’s so “normal”
....?! You have NO drivethrus in Germany?
@@dilliondantin We have them, but only one type. The ones where they serve you at the window of the building.
@@dilliondantindrive-through yes ,drive-in no .
There is a difference
still germans are the overweight nation in europe
I'm 24 years old. I was asked not long ago what my favorite fast food was and I didn't have an answer.
Then they asked, "like when your out and want to get something, where do you go?".
I feel like I am in an odd minority because, when I am out of the house, even if I get hungry, going to through a drive-thru literally does not occur to me.
It doesn't even register as an option in my mind. I don't choose not to go for health reasons, I just always know, "there's food at home," and I wait.
Convenience culture is so insidious. I'm not grandstanding, I just feel lucky that I wasn't caught by it like so many others. I have plenty of other weaknesses.
I feel the EXACT same as you. I’m 26. And part of it is health, or was, until it just became habit I guess. I’m currently laying in bed, got out of major surgery 24 hours ago to correct a severe internal birth defect. My body rejects low quality food. I’m also not grandstanding. I will legit throw up and get stomach cramps for days if I eat something my body even slightly disagrees with. Let me tell you, that trained me QUICK to eat as clean as possible. But the silver lining of my issues is that I have zero desire to eat fast food/convenience food. Like you, the option doesn’t even come into my mind.
“There’s food at home”. I bet your mom is proud of you.
My son is 28 and has never eaten drive thru food either.
He only once had fast food that I just remembered. It was KFC chicken that a friend bought him after taking him to a football match. I dreaded that he would ask for it again. But no. He didn't like the fact it was so greasy and salty.
Mum's cooking 1: KFC 0
I never went through a drive thru as a kid, my husband took me through one for the first time 😂 he got me a happy meal to commemorate. I still never go through them
My favourite fast food is Salad Story franchise here in Poland. It's exactly what the name suggests. You get a tasty and healthy salad within 5 mins. It's pretty expensive for a fast food but you actually get fresh produce
America is so different when it comes to drive-thrus. I'm from an European country (Poland) and here I often see drive-thrus being almost empty. Even people who arrived by car often leave it in the parking lot and go inside anyway.
I always had the same experience. I think there really aren't that many scenarios where people would want to use a drive thru.
prawda, czesto drive u mnie stoi puste, a jak ktos przyjedzie, to za nim moze 3/4 samochody
ale w momencie kiedy wysłano mnie do restauracji (przy trasie wylotowej) z drive które miało nie jeden pas przyjmowania a dwa - przeraziłem się iloscia samochodow xD w mojej restauracji zazwyczaj nie ma az takiego ruchu, duzy szok
Same here in Greece. I can't even recall observing a single drive through, I think the only one I saw was Mc Donald's. It's such a weird concept, I mean if you're so bored to get to the restaurant just order it home, it's much cheaper than pay for all the gas to get there.
@@Constantinos_Is_Dead thats only recently become an option outside of pizza, and the delivery services (Uber Eats etc) are expensive. No way is it cheaper to pay someone to deliver to you (burning their gas and time) than it is for you to just burn your own gas.
on a scale of laziness, ordering delivery is worse than going to get it in the drive through haha.
@@Mehwhatevr Not at all, delivery services have been existing at least since the early 90s in Athens for souvlaki as well. Coffee shops were not popular anyway back then so they didn't deliver at home.
Hi! I used to be a McDonald's manager for 2 years (in Australia), and there's a few things I'd like to add about Drive Thrus as a whole.
Most fast food outlets use 2 lanes for multiple reasons, the main ones being psychological. Another major reason for 2 DT lanes is to compel the restaurant to work faster. Customers hate seeing both DT lanes full of waiting cars, but trust me when I say the staff working inside the restaurant hate it even more. As a manager our jobs were always to help keep the store moving, especially keeping the DT moving, and the only way to do that is to keep the kitchen moving quickly (the science behind the McDonald's kitchen layouts is itself an extremely, incredibly interesting study on human behaviour, restaurant design and ergonomics - however it is a very heavily guarded trade secret)
Think of it as putting your finger over the end of a hose of water. When you do, the water comes out with a higher pressure, but its still the same amount of water coming out the end of the hose, just much faster. The same logic is applied to a drive thru. The speed at which cars leave the DT with their full meal needs to be TWICE as fast (2 minutes from Order End to Present End) as the speed in which cars are entering your drive through and placing their order (4 minutes, on average, on busy days). The faster speed which the DT moves though is overall to drive the impulse factor for customers driving past and seeing an empty queue.
With the privacy/UV protectors on the digital screens in Drive Thrus (called Customer Order Displays, they're extremely expensive pieces of equipment but extremely sensitive to water, dust, sunlight and heat, so they break all the time and are actually one of the least cost effective pieces of equipment used by McDonald's) they mainly exist to make customers not feel bad about what they are ordering, not even kidding. A large driver behind the 'average cheque amount' (avg $ amount spent per visit) is a degree of self-consciousness people feel when ordering with others around them, especially with 2 lanes. The privacy screens were added to give customers peace of mind knowing they could order what they wanted and feel "less bad about themselves" at the same time, knowing that the people around them aren't reading/judging their orders (it's wild, I know). At the restaurant I worked at, the average cheque increased by about 50c per customer after the privacy screens were introduced.
That last part about the screens is honestly fascinating. I would have never thought about that. Cuz I feel like everyone who orders fast food feels embarrassed to some degree
@@annieclinkenbeard5323 you're absolutely right, most people do feel some degree of embarrassment - it varies for everyone but overall once people know they have more privacy, they always make the most of it. There was a noticeable difference in the way people placed their orders once the privacy screens were added - they almost sounded more confident
@@bendybus5165 I'm so glad I was born and raised in an Asian country where people don't eat fast food on a daily basis cause I'm so easily attempted and when surrounded with this many marketing traps It would be impossible to stay in shape 🥶
I love how i get home BLOW THE TOILET OUTTTTT WHOOOOOOO BOY VERY FUN LOVE IT WORTH THE PRICE BUT THE SMELL IS WILD MAKES ME TEAR UP. WHOOOOO BOYY
Just when I thought I couldn't hate drive-thrus any more, along comes this video. The fact that people would make an extra stop in the morning to wait in line burning gasoline for a $5 cup of coffee that you could make at home for pennies has always blown my mind.
Where are you getting $5 cups of coffee? Not at McDonald's or Tim Horton's
Sbux?
Some people makes sense where they could easily buy the ingredients, but based on their schedule for work, those ingredients would go bad before they could use all of it. It would make sense to just pay somebody else to do it.
I agree. Occasionally, I do enjoy a coffee treat, but they are so bad for you! Its always almost 1/3 of your daily calorie needs, but it's all empty carbs and empty calories. I satisfy the coffee fiend in me by taking a to go mug of plain black coffee with me
@@patriley2 Star Bucks, Scooters, and other local coffee shops
Marketing is all psychology and behavioral science. It doesn't matter what's being sold.
Yup. This sums up businesses’ intent beautifully in a capitalist society.
Freud's nephew, Edward Bernays, started it all by applying the principles of propaganda to marketing, so it's a bond that can't be broken.
The term "Public Relations" had to be invented to replace its predecessor term... "Propaganda"
Like Kiana is doing
It's a capitalist society that y'all are in!
Haven't been to a drive thru in months, but not being able to see the menu until I'm in the process of talking to the person taking my order was super frustrating. I always wondered why they wouldn't put a menu earlier in the line so people could look at the entire menu and get to think about it, makes sense that they want to rush you and order more than you want. Makes me want to go back even less.
Oh my god the whole menu board personalization thing via license plates is so very dystopian and just very scary? Like how can that be legal?
Bwahahahahahaahha capitalists mass murder people via food every single day in many ways, and you better believe it's legal. No one in the USA has any sort of "human rights" as you may understand them. The food is the least of our problems
Oh, they are setting up for the Mark of the Beast. I know it sounds crazy but...
Mine would say “oh you mobile ordered again proceed” I never use the order menu I always give them my code and drive on.
I agree. I sometimes feel like I’m wearing a tin foil hat but also… I am offended at the assumption.
I would only go there with a rental car XD
I work at Starbucks and we’re encouraged to connect with customers so that they come in more frequently to see the baristas. I love my customers but sometimes I feel bad because so many of them struggle with their weight and the drinks they order are usually super high in sugar, fat, and/or calories. Edit: That’s why a barista will ask for your name when taking your order. We are also told to refer to you by your name when handing out your order too. It feels super weird and employees don’t really like it but it’s literally corporate policy.
That's interesting! I went to a Panera for the first time in ages and it was like, just use this kiosk. 😐
Really interesting. And coffee doesn't have to be unhealthy--some of those drinks are basically just milkshakes for breakfast 😅
Don't beat yourself up. Y'all have espresso, lattes, cappuccinos, and Americano, which they don't have to add sugar to. They make the decision to get drinks so full of sugar and extra cream that they hardly taste like coffee anymore. It's their choice, not yours. If I have to get starbucks, like I'm on a roadtrip and need caffeine, I get a latte and dont add sugar to it. They could just as easily do the same if they cared about their weight (or in my case, my teeth and taste buds).
Ive come across so many Starbucks baristas that are very nice. For me, it's more good customer service though. I know they are there to work. Also don't feel bad, you are just doing your job. They could get black coffee or other low calorie stuff if they wanted to lose weight and still hang out at Starbucks.
That's why the barista treats you by your name! I'm from Europe and calling a customer by his first name ( ex: Daniel or Maria) without the "mr." Ou "ms." is viewed as not polite. One of the reasons I don't like starbucks, a place where overpriced coffee is sold by people that treat you like they know you from school.
A few years ago, I went INTO a McDonald's, and waited in line for over 15 minutes to place my order. Meanwhile, during those 15 minutes, the store had processed and completed transactions with over 20 'drive-thru' customers outside that window.When I finally got my food, it just so happened that it was the MOD that handed it to me. I said, "Hey man, you should prioritize the customers that actually come into your store, OVER those in the 'drive-thru' line. He said, "Sir. You don't understand. The people in the drive-thru, are, "in a hurry"! And I said, "No. We're all in a hurry, those people are just LAZY! It's fast-food, we're all in a hurry." And his response was something like, "You just don't understand, sir." He was polite but clueless.
I never realized just how different fast food culture is in the US compared to central Europe where I live. Most McDonalds in the big cities don't even have a drive through here because of the public transport.
Interesting. I don't know why people use public transportation. It doesn't go where you want to go when you want to go there, you can't take tools with you, and you're stuck in a confined space with a bunch of other people breathing all over you. Meanwhile, I'm alone in my truck. I can crank up the metal, I can smoke, I can pull over and piss, and I have my tools.
And a lot of mc donalds in big cities just dont have space for that :D
yes i agree. And it is not always that clear to know where the drive thru starts either. With some McDonalds i get the impression they would rather you get in, with all the "fancy" order and pickup devices they place everywhere.
Mcdonalds in big cities in the US rarely have drive thrus, but the culture is different because the US has far more medium sized cities/towns with drive thrus compared to European countries, simply by land mass and population size
This is so true, I have family in Canada and they get so much coffee on the go. I always make tea/coffee at home and take it with me. So much cheaper and less time consuming. I was baffled by the amount of fast food places, so glad I live in Europe🙈
Kiana! I haven't gone to a drive-thru ever since watching your video on ultra-processed "foods". Anything U.P. that was left in our house was eaten and not replaced, and for meals, we've been steadily eating simple meals of grilled meat, mixed green salad with homemade dressing, and occasionally some rice. If we don't want to cook, we get something made with real ingredients by human hands, like local Thai or Mexican. We're feeling so great! It's so effing easy to slip into the fast food bad habit, and they make it easier than ever now, as you've shown. I'm so glad to have found your channel. I see a lot of myself in you! One day at a time. Thank you for being here for us and for being such a motivating presence! 💖
you got this! it can be tricky to resort to the easy stuff, but not only is the diet healthier, you feel happier after eating a meal YOU made. it's a thing! either way it can be hard to juggle so kudos to you for not going back on it.
Amazing message! Keep up the good work, and thanks for sharing your progress as well 😊
That’s awesome. I haven’t been to a drive-thru in years! Life is so much better when you mindfully just opt out of most of the consumerism that seems to have taken over the world.
Aww, shucks, guys 🌽 thanks for the support and kind words! 🥰 Kiana (& her wonderful community) helps me stay on track.
We've got fresh salmon filets, salad, and rice to look forward to tonight! 🤤
That’s really great! Definitely something I’d try as I’m wanting to get way from UPFs myself!
My dad is military and was posted to Connecticut for a year (We're Canadian), and when I went to visit him I was floored by how many fast food restaurants.
I haven't eaten UPFs, refined carbs or added sugar since June 2023. In 6 months I completely reversed type 2 diabetes , lost 3 stone/19 kg/42 pounds, got my cholesterol normal and improved my digestion. I try to buy organic as much as possible, eat various probiotic foods and get loads of fibre to feed my microbiome. From being rather ill in June 2023 my recent bloods show I am healthy again. A switch like this was a little difficult to begin with but I soon found new products, developed recipes and got used to it all. The other day I picked up some fried chicken to reheat at home - it did have added sugar......I threw it in the bin after a couple of bites because it was so disgustingly sweet! This just reinforced how accustomed we become to sugar and how we can achieve the opposite.
That's the spirit! Keep up the good work.
@@The9thMonth I wouldn't want to go back. Being in my early 40s now I have to think about the quality of the rest of my life. So many diseases are now being linked to metabolic illness, both physical and mental.
Congratulations! Strong will and consistency!
Now everytime I eat out my stomach hurts the next day and I get constipated. Cant stand these companys and their cheap shitty food
Well done. That's amazing to hear. I did the same thing with sodas and soft drinks. I stopped drinking them completely a few years back. When I drink them now, they taste horrible
Trouble is nobody wants to believe they're easily fooled or influenced, so they dismiss warnings about this sort of brain hacking.
How do I say "Most people are dumb as fvck." without hurting their feelings or sounding elitist? 😂 Cause after all I'm dumb too, just not in this very specific avenue. 🤷♂
‘It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.’ ~Mark Twain
Correct. Just ask any MAGA follower.
"brain hacking" is a great term to use if you want to sound like a sci-fi movie villain lmao
@@em0_tioncause you ARE elitist lmao
This was so interesting. I love this stuff. I also feel so validated. I was in line at Chick-fil-A that has this new system where they have their menus posted on these columns and the people are just standing there waiting for you to order and I HATED IT! I like to look at a menu (perhaps too long sometimes) bc I evaluate a lot of things (e.g. individual price of select items v. combo meals). I was getting so frustrated bc I couldn't read it from the passenger side and felt so pressured to order. My boyfriend was like JUST ORDER SOMETHING and it turned into a whole thing (I also was hangry) and I kept saying, "They are just doing this so I order the easiest thing to see which is most likely more expensive". So yes. I will be making him watch this. THANK YOU!
Ok, older guy here. Never was a huge fan of fast food, but I did occasionally enjoy that greasy-salty flavor hit. But over the past few years, I noticed that it just didn't taste right. It went from enjoyable to frankly disgusting. Is it me, or are they messing with the food? Or perhaps both?
I suspect ingredient quality, or quality ingredient vs filler ratio changing. Always looking for a way to extract more money per sale.
Maybe you're just not used to it anymore and your brain perceives it differently. I used to hit diet soda all day every day until I stopped for a few weeks. When I tried to go back, it tasted so horrible.
Julia Child herself did say McDonald’s fries used to be good as they used lard. Not any more! They definitely have messed with the food
You can train your palate/body to be repulsed by junk if you spend enough time away from it. Kinda like how vegetarians will get sick if they eat meat.
Yes. In my early 20s I depended on dollar menu items to eat on 2-3 dollars a day and could still enjoy it. Now it's $4 for one of the same items but tastes disgusting. Maybe I've just gotten that much better at cooking for myself, cuz every fast food item I used to love tastes so bad I can't even eat it. And it's more expensive.
I often see a drive-thru line wrapped around the building yet when I go into the place they may have 0-1 customers total inside. I always go in & can get my to-go order quickly because of it, while everyone else will sit for 5-15 minutes in line as their cars run burning up gas just for the "convenience".
Noticed this at Starbucks too.
No fr. Why can’t americans just enjoy their lunch by sitting comfortably in the restaurant? It feels like they are all in a rush at the drive thru
@@meowclaws4690 because we don't have time
I go in to enjoy the dining room. Most have free wifi and are comfortable places to take a break and return messages on my phone.
My dad has always hated drive throughs, so every time he took me to a fast food place we would park and go in, no matter what. It should also be mentioned that he didn't take me to fast food much, and would always prefer a proper restaurant. Now that I think about it, it's a good habit. I make healthier choices as an adult.
0:44 dark nudging is my favorite sith Lord for real
🔥🤣
Keep in mind too that they show you the deals on the front of the building and by the time you drive around to the menu you can't see those deals anymore.
I was at Starbucks last weekend to get my usual plain black cold brew. When I arrived, the drive-through line was ridiculously long and at a standstill.
It was amazing to me that people would rather sit in their car for 30+ min than just park, walk in, and get their order in a fraction of the time.
Ordering ahead is the only way I get coffee from them anymore unless it's a less busy hour. Otherwise, I go somewhere else or make my coffee at home.
@spOOkytimes - I sip coffee very slowly as a tool to help with intermittent fasting. So small sips only 2-3x per hour can make the 3 cups in a Venti last for like 5-7 days. 😆
It also works well because a $5 weekly coffee budget saves a ton of money. Versus people donating more of their money weekly to Starbucks with daily purchase. Plus, I like only having to make one trip to Starbucks per week. LOL
@@ryandeffley7652 i wonder how coffe helps peaople fast? for me if fasting coffe DESTROYS the fast and makes stomach go in circles still it's fed.....
@NightmareRex6 - Black coffee with nothing added has zero cals and the caffeine blunts hunger. The mistakes that people make are :
1) Adding cream/sugar, etc to the coffee which causes an insulin spike.
2) Drinking it too fast, which makes the body adapt to caffeine, and it lessens the hunger blunting effects over time.
**Black coffee still blunts my hunger over a decade later of doing IF because I've always had it black, and I sip it very slowly. So I've never adapted to it and don't get jittery, etc..
Coffee drinkers are just functional drug addicts. It's a laugh to see Starbucks lines.
Thank you for spreading awareness about these manipulative tactics that influence our decisions and make us more prone to make unhealthy and harmful choices. Would LOVE to see a separate video on the apps!
I do not go to fast food restaurants very often, and I often find myself feeling rushed in line because I can’t see the menu, so I will look it up on my phone, and I’ve always wondered why they didn’t put a menu board up maybe two or three cars before so that you can pick out what you want and be faster, but now I understand that it’s for impulsive behavior purposes and I will certainly always pull the menu up of the restaurant before I hop in the drive-through line so I have my order already in mind.
Thank you for this video
I probably use a fast food drive thru about 8-10 times a year, and I agree with you. I would love to have an idea of what is available prior to getting the microphone. I find it very stressful to have someone ask me my order, when I have no idea yet. It backfires with me. I normally order less just to get out of there.
That's why I hate DTs. When they expect me to take decision in seconds I usually order less as I don't want to explore the topic
It's so ironic that McDonalds keeps talking about the importance of "personal choices" (like they did with the John Cisna case), while manipulating those choices for you to make the wrong one.
At the end of the day nobody puts a gun to people’s head. They do make the decisions themselves. Thats why willpower has so many natural rewards
and now they're freaking out cause people are boycotting 😂 dude, actions have consequences. i'm not going to support someone that's directly funding genocide
@@beckyscleanersock8395 Were you even paying attention to the video? The whole point is that people are being manipulated and they don't even realize it.
The important difference is in the intention - are they actually trying to empower you to take control of your own life, or escape accountability?
@@WobblesandBean nobody makes you do things, you ALWAYS decide in the end. Your victim mindset is hilarious though, blaming everyone else but yourself for your decisions. Enjoy being miserable with that reasoning
Drive thrus have never made sense to me. Why would you wait in line for like 10 minutes wasting fuel when you can just park up and walk in? I guess people nowadays are too lazy
I've lost 80lbs and have very few hard rules for myself, but one of my only rules is NO drive thru's. EVER. Not being allowed to go through the drive thru seriously discourages me from eating fast food. So glad you're covering this.
I’m currently on a healthy journey to lose 60 pounds while taking care of my grandmother with dementia. I just woke up to her having cleaned out all the closets- and everything scattered in the garage. Now I have an extremely good video to clean up to now, thank you Kiana. ❤️
I can relate 🫂 I'm on a health journey as well, while taking care of my grandmother with dementia. Sending hope & encouragement 🙏🏽
Just want you to know that your work is valuable, even though I dont know you, nor am I the one benefiting directly from it. Care work is extremely important and necessary, its what has kept communities standing for centuries, and even if no one recognizes it I want you to know that you are doing for your grandma is incalculable and meaningful
I’m right there with you! It’s so hard to diet while taking care of my grandmother with dementia…I feel like my will power is already worn down from all the stress! But we can do this!
It’s so amazing you’re taking time to care yourself while also caring for loved ones ❤
@@evilcorgi1367 Why has the obligation fallen to you? Why is a home not an option, other than cost? Stress is far more deadly than you think. It ages you and will cause arterial plaque buildup faster than any bad dietary choice. Stress alone is the primary factor in heart disease, we found that out a while ago.
I just want you to know it's ok to prioritize yourself. Your health matters.
On any given day my local Tim Hortons has 20 to 30 cars lined up for drive thru. Why? The restaurant is jam packed with seniors who order one coffee and sit at tables all day. Management does nothing about it
I have 3 small children, going on a long outing can make the drive thru so tempting, but I try very hard to feed my kids healthy foods so I started storing granola bars, meat sticks and dried fruit in my van. Yes it makes a mess sometimes, but it tides us over and prevents us from eating junk when we're out. We'll park somewhere and the snack is usually enough to keep them satisfied. We only went through the drive thru 4 times last year mostly because we traveled
I am 43 and it still works for me! I never go anywhere without a granola bar in case I need a snack! Lol 😂😂
I'm not a fan of fast food, but businesses with drive thruoughs are a convenience I depend on. As a disabled person, getting in and out of the car is difficult. So I go to a pharmacy that has a drive thru. Or if I want a fancy coffee, I go to a Starbucks with a drive thru. Also, one of the best things to come out of the pandemic is curbside pickup. I order my stuff online, drive to the store and an employee brings the items to my car and puts them in my car. I only have to deal with it when I get home where I have a friend help me get things up to my apartment. It's just an unfortunate truth that even good things can cause bad outcomes. Like people getting many of their meals at a fast food drive thru. But for a disabled person, these conveniences are a blessing.
It's a blessing when I have the dog with me too. Sugar is crashing on the way home from the dog park? Drive through Starbucks for a breakfast sandwich!
of course, the trick is to manage my eating so that my sugar doesn't crash, but you know, ADHD problems...
And yeah, half the time I use the drive through pharmacy, it's because I have the dog with me and otherwise I would go weeks without my medication because I never drove past without the dog!
So true. I often see elderly and disabled people that benefit from delivery, pick up, and drive thru services, especially with heavy items like pet food.
I think the solution to this would be more healthy and affordable restaurants with drive thrus. Healthy food should be accessible, I'm tired of eating cheap sludge that makes my conditions worse
Well, as a disabled person, you have a good reason to want to stay in your car compared to the VAST majority of non-disabled people.
The good news is that these days fast food places are also doing all they can to de-incentivize people from buying what they're selling. The drive thru lines go on forever and don't move, the food is cold and way, way overpriced...a total adverse experience. I will admit I used to stop at these places on days when I was lacking energy, maybe a few times a month. But I no longer feel any temptation at all.
Videos like this are really helpful because I think we all need to understand just how manipulative businesses are in general...increasingly so in recent years. "Dark nudges" are all over the majority of shopping websites and apps. Fake sales, fake countdown timers, fake low inventory. All to get us to act impulsively.
Kiana, could you do a video on how car dependency relates to increasing obesity rates and its impact on health, not only from an activity perspective but also an isolationist perspective? I recently travelled to the EU and the differences are staggering. As someone who is unable to drive, (and subsequently unable to get around in America/leave my home to the point where it negatively impacts my health) it honestly makes me so sad for myself, other mobility-impaired/disabled individuals, and America as a whole.
Yup, more highways less walking😢 most people don’t even get in the recommended minimum 8k steps a day.
This would be such a good topic.
i did a small portion of this for my practice ap capstone project last year
A few years ago I'd hit up the McDonald's drive thru 3 or 4 times a week. Quick, convenient, on my way home. Last year I made a promise to myself to get fast food no more than once a month. I've been sticking to that promise. My last impulse purchase was a mountain bike.
Thank you for being here!
I'm just an old unrepentant sex, drug, and rock & roller who didn't conform. But the last couple years I've been watching stuff like yours and the people explaining narsissism and bless you, your like icing on the cake! I started figuring out in my late teens CENSORED was messed up. Thanks again for filling in some details!
Also just a terrible place in general. I worked the McDonald’s drive through (called the “dungeon” or “hell hole” by coworkers..) and was abused from the very beginning. Not trained, drinks thrown back at my face, standing in backed-up sewer water! Ew! People in the kitchen would drop food on the dirty floors and serve it to customers anyways.
How it was at Sonic, got treated like shit by a bitchy manager
I feel bad for you :( Throwing a drink at you is so rude and disrespectful. Stupid arrogant people.
I hope you found work somewhere better!
@@Winterliebende I would’ve lost my job if that happened fr 😂
I once worked at a fast food restaurant, long ago, just for 3 months on the run-up to Christmas. I frequently saw staff abusing food. It wasn't just food being picked up off the floor, or failure to wash hands, one girl drew a quick picture on the inside of a burger bun with a pen, wrapped up the burger and gave it to a customer.
That's so mcD😂
I've noticed at dairy Queen, inside, the menu go away completely to show one of those "cinematic" shots of the blizzard of the month. And then go back to the menu but only for like 20 seconds. It's like "can I please just see my options here!!"
I’ve seen it at McDonalds too. Why place a commercial there? I’m already in the store!
That means the employees in the back can see through those and probably making fun off you, so next time give it the finger.
Drive-thrus are anxiety inducing for my asd brain. Fast food restaurants get my order wrong more often than not. And correcting a messed up order from the drive-thru is super inconvenient. It's so frustrating that I'll usually not order what I really want and opt for something less likely to get messed up. And I hate digital menu boards that are constantly changing, flashing up different stuff. I'll catch a glimpse of something that looks interesting, then BAM!! it flashes to something else before I can get a good look at it making me wait for it to cycle through hoping my adhd doesn't get sidetracked before it reappears.
The bad display has entirely backfired with me. I haven't had drive through in a few years, so on a road trip I sometimes think of treating myself as I'm off getting gas. I roll into a drive through line, and try to figure out what I'd like. I find not being able to see the menu until the last minute so overwhelming that I drive right through without ordering almost every time.
almost every time bc even I sometimes still grab a small Diet Coke with no ice for the caffeine. McDonalds ran an ad recently about how you could go to McD for just a drink, but that's hard to do since there are so many great options, and I smiled every time it came on since I haven't gotten more than a drink from them in over 10 years, despite wanting more
Treating yourself was mentioned...crazy how we think .
i take a long time to choose what i want, even at actual proper restaurants. i don't really eat fast food unless with someone (boyfriend, family, friend, etc) but i start browsing the online menu for a place at least 5 or so minutes before we're actually there so i can properly decide and figure out what i want, as well as look at the nutritional info. it helps that i dont drive so im able to do it lmao and i dont really like eating beef
I moved to a major city recently without my car and I finally managed to curb my binging. Needing to expend energy to bike anywhere or needing to wait extra long on public transit has kept me from impulse purchases and it’s interesting to hear some of the science behind that. Thank you Kiana for all the help in changing many of my habits :)
I'm from West Virginia which is the highest adult obesity in all 50 states. I am pretty fit, Marine Scout Sniper Vet, and just finished first in my Police academy PT test. I did my senior high school project on "teenage obesity in America" and got a scholarship for it. I am happy 6 years sober, and not sure how long I stopped eating fast foods and switched to a home cooked KETO diet. Thank you for keeping us informed about the progressive adaptability of the massive corporations who want our money and to keep us unhealthy as a whole.
roflmao wtf is this comment
The fact that 70% of revenue in America is thanks to drive-thrus is crazy. Cultural differences I guess. My local McDonalds, that's located on the main road towards the capital, gets like 5-10 cars per day, according to my friend who works there. 90% of all customers arrive by foot.
The automobile absolutely obliterated this country. Yes, on the short-term it revolutionized the country. Long-term? It's clear we're in way too deep. It's probably the biggest reason why I'm leaving.
What country?
I was just about to comment this! Here in Northern Europe they're not nearly as popular as in the US. Personally drive throughs give me the ick because they make me feel so lazy/slobby lol.
Definitely a culture thing. We have car culture in the US, because we based our entire infrastructure around cars. We often have long distances to travel through various weather conditions and questionable neighborhoods, so a car is often more safe and faster. It's far better to walk and bike and many major cities are implementing better public transit, biking, and walking options.
Yeah 100% an american thing. My local/nearest mcdonalds is located in a city center where cars are not even allowed to go
I have a confession to make. I haven’t watched your last one or two videos because I’m feeling a little guilty for myself as I have been off the diet these past weeks 😔😔
Girl Same
don’t be guilty just be mindful and change when ur ready
Try to make little steps back to the diet and not just go back to it all in one day... baby steps work sometimes when we aren't feeling 100% motivated. Don't be too harsh on yourself, I'm sure you'll get back there. Take care x
@@coupe2563 I am mindful… though I haven’t gained weight, I just haven’t been losing the weight I had initially planned, and I feel guilty whenever I see Kiana updates coz she inspired me in the first place 😔
One day at a time, dude! ❤
9:10 that drive thru line is so insane I could never wait on it.
Wow, all these concepts you mention in behavioral economics can be applied to a lot of other areas in our lives too. That was a lot of information, and I'm going to have to rewatch this video later.
I love when you put out these types of videos, they really help reinforce the idea that the way I feed myself is an act of resistance. It's powerful. Thank you.
I've seen them place Tesla & electric charging stations just after the McDonald's drive-through. Both genius and creepy! 😮
Welcome to techno-feudalism, serf’s up 🌊
Yeah, it's good that places will be vying to put chargers in, but they are only doing it to sell you something, much like they did with gas stations selling junk food and drinks.
15:56 This makes me think of TH-cam polls. When people are unsure of which answer to select they will select the first (top) one.
I had a fast food addiction when i was a Handyman (about 10 years), so convenient and addictive. When i hit my 40's the combo meals made me so tired i just started ordering a burger or a couple tacos no sides. My wife never ate fast food and my kids all stopped at about 12 years old. So i was out on a limn by myself, hiding the packaging before anyone got in my truck. I started a catering company and that changed my lifestyle and schedule, haven't had fast food in 4 years, except for an occasional Taco Bravo with my Son. Sometimes your life has to change to make changes unfortunately. We still love burgers, but never from fast food restaurants.
Cool story, bro.
Good on you for not giving in. I know it wasn’t easy.
Did you know that Burger King started doing deliveries in the traffic jam in Mexico City, the traffic is so bad that they can now take your order and they will deliver it to you (they used bikes to deliver) business is booming! Great video!
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As someone with a eating disorder (due to my autism) who only eats a couple of things it’s funny in a way seeing how a lot of these manipulative factors won’t affect me since I always know what I’m going to eat before I leave the house. Which for McDonald’s it’s only fries and a sweet tea every time if they tried offering me anything more than that I’d be so confused and wonder who they’re talking to 😅 I also don’t even look at the menu when at the drive-thru in general. I’ll always just look up the menu online before even driving to any fast food place I never been too yet, but know is on the way as a way to make sure it’d even have anything for me and my specific eating habits.
Same!! Im very adverse to new foods or current foods tasting different, and always know what im ordering way before hand, so seeing how much the advertising relies on impulsivity is kinda funny? I always used to think “why do they have those ads there about their limited or new product? those ads never work on anyone, we already know what we’re ordering.” only to learn that, people DONT know what their ordering before they get to the menu is mind blowing! reminds me of how i didn’t understand the whole safe foods thing, since everything i actually eat is a safe food xD
it's crazy how this unhealthy fast food behavior is immediately downstream of car culture
I love you. I love anyone who speaks truth in this world where everyone is lying and manipulating.
Always hated drive throughs because I felt rushed to make a choice in the order zone. Plus, it feels highly impersonal.
Thank you for this great video.
Love your channel!
McDonalds in my country has taken away the service counter when you order in.
Instead you order at big screens and pay through the app.
I hadn't been to McDonald in a few years and after experiencing that, I don't plan on ever going back. So that's a win 😅
requiring dang phone numbers is why i lost so meany google accounts they FORCEd me to add a phone number and i KNEW FOR A FACT i would loose it but had NO OTHER CHOICE. lost ALOT HELLAVA LOT MORE to modern ""secururity"" protocalls than from the "Scary hackers" themselves!!!!
my country asked for vaccine proof so my relatives were like our medical business is none of theirs and refused
Kiana I just wanted to say thank you for the UPF video. After watching it I have read the Ultra Processed People book, which completely put me off eating UPFs. The switch was easier than I expected because I became disgusted with those foods as a I read. It's been almost a month since I've been eating healthier and I feel so much better already. Thank you! :)
My father always told me to always buy food once you've eaten. If you're hungry and you buy food, you'll buy more what you need or buy what you don't need, however, if you buy food once you've eaten, you'll buy what you need and not impulse buy.
yeah, my parents taught me this as well. never go to a restaurant dying of hungry because you gonna probably buy more than you gonna actually eat and never go buy the monthly groceries hungry as well because you gonna buy more than you need.
What a treat to catch this! Nine seconds ago on my lunch break, score!
Here in Chicago, in the 80s, there was a drive thru funeral home with drive thru visitation. I dont know if it still operates. Totally freaky though...😮
Wait, a drive thru funeral home? Now that is crazy.
Pennsylvania has drive thru beer distributors, and Maryland has drive thru liquor stores.
We have one of those in my town too. Sometimes they leave the viewing window open all night. Creepy.
Nevada has drive-thru dispensaries (but not California, oddly).
The quality of this video is amazing. Loved the zones being visualized.
Thank you for all your effort. Your message is invaluable. Healthy body, healthy mind!
Kiana, i know i comment pretty frequent, but i really want to emphasize how much your videos have been helping me on my journey through health & weight loss. I inherently hate being manipulated and will avoid things on principles alone. Thankfully, it's been a while since I kicked the drive-thru habit, but it's just another reason to make my own healthy, tasty food at home! Thank you for all you do. I'd love to see a newsletter from you!
Is there something with the psychology of people with autism and advertising ? I feel impervious to food advertising. If I’m at a Starbucks drive thru for a black coffee there is no way I’ll be adding anything else to my order. I have ADHD too so it’s not like I’m not impulsive too
….not me just realizing I’ve been Dark Nudged to eat more fast food over the last year because of the apps and the points and rewards systems 😵💫😑
I force myself to walk to a place every time I have to eat out. That way, I'm not tempted as by laziness, convenience, and temptation and I get a bit of exercise and fresh air
I've been using a bike for transportation and a good thing is using that to get fast food (or better: avoiding it all together).
I didn't realize how small of a minority I am. I absolutely HATE drive-throughs. I can count on one hand the number of times I have used them, even during COVID. I will even go out of my way to not use drive-throughs. Even as a kid I hated when my parents used them.
I just realised that I have never even once gone through drive-thru. I am Finnish and we do have them, but our car culture is way different than the one in USA so my family has never felt the need to use any. We rarely eat fast food and when we do, it's occasion so we want to eat inside. Also eating in cars is not a big thing at all here. Some people order in drive-thru but they usually go home/to party/to work to eat there, not in the car.
The most sickening thing is that throughout this video I've been getting more and more McDonalds cravings, and I rarely eat there to begin with. Just the mention and thought of it is activating my lizard brain self.
You're not alone there 😂
I always find this peculiar, because I think the times I've eaten at a fastfood restaurant in my entire life I can count probably on the fingers of one hand, maybe two. And I never experience such cravings for (fast)food.
That's not McDonald's fault
@@silent_moshi didn’t you listen the video, eh? It is McDonalds fault, although fault isn’t really the correct word to use here. Its their doing and intention. It’s a craving that comes as a result of their ultaprocessed foods, their marketing and the psychology they utilise.
That urgency impulse is why i dont use drive thru's at all. I don't go unless i know what i want
You’re literally the only person I would want to receive an email from, I hope you decide to do it! Also the new style of your content is incredible and so informative, and has already led me to make better decisions in my life. Thank you Kiana ♥️
Also, fun thing I noticed is that drive-thrus in my country (in Southeastern Europe) are barely used. And even when they are it is mostly tourists!
Same! I'm from Northern Europe and drive-thrus just... kinda sit there? And most people prefer buying from inside anyway. Literally ignore the drive-thru lane, park the car, go inside, buy food, get in the car, drive away 😂
@@maivaiva1412Could be Sweden, I think most people just park and then go in.
In the UK, drive-thrus are a bit more popular than in continental Europe, but the "default" here is still walking up to the inside and ordering, or getting food delivered.
Drive thru mimics traffic jam. Which are best avoided with a manual car.
It is really nice to see a real intelligent person delivering material instead of artificial intelligence. Keep up the good work. P.s. Good video.
Here in europe you are looked at as a weirdo if you use drive thrus, here you literally enter and sit down in a restaourant you want to eat at
Well, yeah. We don't drive hours on end just so we can buy food and/or go to work. Hence so much of the cultural differences. Bet you if I was so damn tired of working and driving all the God damn time, I'd be prone to shutting down my brain too and just going with the flow of eating delicious junk time after time. 😂
What 😂 drive thrus exist and are used regularly in europe
I'm an American and I do that at some restaurants, even if they have a Drive-Thru like Dunkin, KFC, or Burger King
No
Well any given European country is like a tenth the size of the U.S.
I mean hell, UK is the size of Texas. No biggie we're just bigger and better no sweat
7:04 Dark nudge…behavior against your best interests. So Taco Bell when they tried to convince us we needed a fourth meal lol.
That just sounds like something Taco Bell would do. No wonder they were so prevalent in *Demolition Man.*
Signed up to the newsletter, looking forward to see! ❤ thank you for your videos it's great♡
As a european, I have to say that this was surreal to watch. Sure we have drive thrus in here to, but damn, that's extreme.
I truly admire the amount of detail you have in your videos. I can tell how hard you work and how much research you do. You're one of my favorite channels!
I think the reason McDonalds and Tim Hortons has the split in their drive through lines is that the person taking the orders doesn't have to wait between customers. The double line is about maximizing employee output rather than tricking customers
Can't wait to see it, while I'm working out in gym!!
I find it MORE inconvenient to go through drive thrus, is there something wrong with my brain?😂😂😂
I used to go to McDs during my lunch break, which is when everyone else went, so the drive-thru line wrapped around the whole lot. Guess what? I'd park my car, get the food pretty much instantly, return to my car, and only one car moved up. So yes, you're right. Most people are that lazy to just SIT THERE.
@@Vladiator i just feel like you spend the same amount of time going through a drive thru and ordering or even more when compared to putting something together at home. I’ve been getting really into breakfast quesadillas and it tastes better, costs less AND makes me feel more full:)
These days a lot of drive thrus only offer the illusion of convenience, not the reality. Many people’s heads are too buried in the sand to notice, though. For me it’s obvious because I don’t own a car and so I know for a fact it’s quicker to get off your butt and go in.
Personally, I detest waiting in a long drive thru line, can’t stand the bad sound quality of most of the speakers and the interfering road noise, hate seeing double lines because too me that (correctly) equates to longer waits, hate the hard to see menu, etc.
@@snowwonder9814y do they have so bad sound quality tho?
All I'd be thinking about is how much gas I'm wasting idling around for a while. And the fact that you can't plan what you order before you get up to the menu. And if I so happen to change my mind, I can actually well... wow... leave the line if I go inside. I don't get sandwiched in! Not that I even eat fast food, too expensive when you can often go to a bit nicer place for about the same price now.
Very interesting.👍🏻 I learned as an undergrad in psych 101 that one of the sub-fields of psychology is industrial/organisational psychology. So basically all of the other branches of the profession are aimed at helping people, while I/O psychology aims to squeeze more $ out of people for the sole purpose of helping big companies. I stopped eating fast food many years ago. I don’t even consider it food. You hit the nail on the head when you said “dystopian”! We’re already living in the future that “Idiocracy” predicted almost 20 years ago.
Thanks Kiana! Another great video about behavioural science and how corporations use it make money from manipulating us. The great thing is that we can use behavioural science to help ourselves. Mindfulness is key!!
As an Italian I find this really strange, it’s interesting to know!
What are you yapping about?
@@dwayne3191 Drive thru culture isn't as big outside North America
@@jasminmenzies9759 part of north America …
Same, we don't really have these where I live
Well I'm American and I find this really strange too. Americans have this perverse and slavish devotion to their cars, it unlike anywhere else in the world where a car is just a tool to move.
Kiana ! Aww I didn’t realize this was one of your videos when I clicked on it! Yay ! More fantastic content💅🏼💞
You’re like the best TH-camr right now, you’re speaking truth to power, thank you queen 💕
So interesting; I'm blind and my dad takes me to drive thru once a week and I always order the same thing because I can't see the menu.
How are you "watching" youtube videos
@@1marcelfilms blind doesn’t always mean completely blind. it can mean very limited vision. other than that, you can enjoy content through just listening. podcasts are huge right now for a reason.
The best way to not fall prey is to boycott entirely. I self imposed a boycott of ALL American fast food restaurants when I was around 16 years old. It's amazing how much additional space to think it provides when you can ignore every fast food restaurant around you.
At Wendy's we're taught to upsell by making you think your only options are medium and large, to pay more money. If someone says "Can I get a number 1?" I was trained to say "Medium or large?"
The most common order: burger with a medium fry and medium Coke, specifically
What if they just order a double with cheese and tomato and nothing else? (No fries, no drink, no frosty, no chili, no baked tater...)
@CrazyBear65 if you sound nice and uncertain I will absolutely try to sell you a cookie and 8 times out of 10 I sell it. If you sound sure of yourself I don't bother.
@@rainaw297 Why are you pushing cookies on people you serve? Do you think it makes you a good person to give profits to the evil corporation who pays you utterly abysmally?
@@rainaw297what’s your incentive for upselling?
@@Barbiesauce my manager not getting mad at me 😂
The amount of research that clearly goes into your videos is impressive. Especially compared to a lot of the low effort "video essays" on TH-cam. That drive thru car dealership was hilarious.
"research" lmao
Been binging your channel - my new favorite creator!