another thing Gorov lmg, u compare it with top machineguns, but u can use it on any soldier, it means U should compare it with auto rifles like AVT40, and with this LMG u can make squad that has literally 7 machinegunners. It is very cool because bots with machineguns are very cool. Another way is to use with infantry squad having suvivability of 9 infantrymen u can give 5 machineguns 4 of wich wouldnt be the best machineguns but still very good.
The De Lisle Commando Carbine is chambered for .45 ACP. Just because a cartridge utilises the same bullet diameter as most rifle cartridges, that doesn't make it rifle calibre. It's essentially a suppressed bolt action Thompson. If the charge casing was, say, 100mm and the bullet was redesigned to be more streamlined, that would turn the cartridge into HMG calibre.
Gorov LMG is actually really good. It brakes the rulles because you can give it to engineers, rifleman, radioboys and anti-tankboys and its also really light. I use it in my full auto smg squad on my enegineer.
I like the Gorov because unlike other MGs you can give it to other classes. I just recently got four and gave them to my non-machine gunner soldiers on my MG squad, just to say "I got a squad full of MGs"
*The only gun that could be, even considered to be a "Fantasy" gun, is the Conders... there was only one weapon found and the engineers at Aberdeen Proving Grounds had to finish the build by using MG42 parts. It was still a real gun and existed & shot in physical form. There's also rumors that one of the family members of the designer was using one with his "City Milita" Volkstrum squad.*
@@bbcmotd it's a good point but lot of them weren't adopted by army just because production/maintenance issues which in the game isn't properly reflected. But agree on the main point, the feed is full of extremely Forced-to-be-there weapons
Just for extremely fun and meme purposes, I am trying to equip all the 7 tankers in my type 3 Ka-Chi squad with sword pistols. I can literally have my tank rush in behind enemy lines and deploy 7 samurai with sword pistols. How epic was that
26:20 I wanna say that it’s a .45 pistol round so that wouldn’t be a long range rifle because the drop on a .45 is quite big with it being already subsonic and has a suppressor on it so yeah it’s a slow moving quiet round… maybe the damage should be buffed a tad bit but not a lot… also if the game didn’t show which enemy killed you or where they were then it might workout quite well cause the enemy wouldn’t know where you would be because the suppressor minimizing flash and sound suppression but you can always try and takeout the ai players of a squad first and then finally shoot the main human played enemy because if your ai dies you kinda don’t know where from
The standard type hei rifle has only 5 rounds, I'd argue that the type hei late is currently the best semi auto japanese weapon, with otsu having pathetic damage and type 4 taking 5 years to reload. Probably still not worth the golden order though lol
I agreee with most of the points here. However there are some things I'd like to point out. The suppressed mosin velocity is half of what rifles usually have, so you need to aim higher to adjust for the drop. The Gorov is not that bad because it can be equipped by an engineer. The main problem with it is that you only have 20/40 ammo and it has a high fire rate so you need to have an ammo pouch or be near an ammo box. 11.40mm in the de lisle is also .45 ACP 🙂
I played Breda PG on an engineer back when campaigns were around, i definitely recommend it for engineers. especially if you have schnellfeuer to back it up. De lisle carbine is not an HMG caliber, it is chambered in 45 ACP, aka the same caliber as M1911A1 and all the thompsons. Suppressed revolver can fire quite fast, like almost as fast as a grease gun, but you cannot aim while firing it that fast.
I've been using the scotti mod X recently, it's much better than the free semi auto at tier 2 for Germany, it's got 1 more damage and faster reload speed which helps especially when fighting russians with body armor (fully upgraded armagura hitmarkers them)
The m1e5 garand ability to be used by tankers is interesting. Although I would rather something like the m2a1 carbine. Also the lanchester mod 1 is not a mp40, more like mp41(r).
Hey para, I am split between the artillery luger and the conders, I basically only play germany low br, never tried high br but still far from silver and research to have competitive weapons, so would you recommend saving it for the conder or even another nation or just enjoying the luger now?
yep, coming. i am waiting for the new big update (likely this week) to add top tier tanks for america & japan, to see how the influence vehicle balance and then i release the vehicle guide.
@paradivision1362 the gorov isn't great but you missed out the part where it's not for the machine gunner class, it's for rifle men, engineers etc. Still in the wrong br.
By your own logic you should have rated the Type Hei rifles a definite buy - similar to the artillery luger - as the Type Hei are better than any other semi automatic rifles the japanese have at BR IV. Therefor you can increase your power level significantly with them. Possibly more significant than you can with using an Artillery Luger over an ordinary pistol. Compared to the Type 4 the Type Hei may lose slightly on damage but offers a 45% faster reload, better recoil and dispersion as well as arguably much better sights resulting in a much more operable rifle for a multitude of situational uses. Even the Type Hei Extended - while slightly worse than the late Hei - is still better than the Type 4.
your point makes sense, though the upgrades arent that significant & i strongly anticipated a select fire rifle to be released soon when making that video (which was confirmed last week with the upcoming assault rifle). therefore i specifically avoided anyone to recommend buying a weapon they would regret within 1-2 months of buying. ive learned the rhythm of gaijin releasing new weapons over the last 2 years, so i always look a quarter in the future to see whether something will retain its value.
@@paradivision1362Half the reload time and better control with your main rifle is arguably much more valuable than having some more rounds in your secondary but I see your point in anticipating a better rifle option for Japan. It´s to be anticipated that If things go well for Enlisted BR I and IV get disconnected from their current grouping and get their own +/- 1 matchmaker which would make weapons specific for that BR worth it again. That´s a big "if" as enlisted suddenly needs to get much more successful but when that moment might come some weapons - especially those removed from the battlepass section - can become quite sought-after again.
owen .45 is worse than every other unlock possible for allies imo. sten is pretty good so infinitely better and even a shotty or just a knife is probably better...
The De Lisle has a huge caliber but you have to take a look at the muzzle velocity. In order to make it really quiet they had to use subsonic ammunition, so it has to fire under 340.29 m/s, which is the speed of sound or otherwise it will create a sonic boom when firing. Other bolt actions in this game have a muzzle velocity 3 times higher than the De Lisle, which explains the kinda weak bullets. Still it could have been a really interesting gold order choice if the devs just had bended realistic credibility a bit (like they did with many other weapons such as semi auto vs bolt action damage) and just given it bolt action damage or at least semi auto damage, even at the cost of rate of fire or a much higher damage drop off. The way they implemented it made it useless from the beginning. A waste of work time.
*I am a little confused on the "Best Gold Order Soldiers" part because you say if you are new to the game then you should get a Engineer and I 100% agree, you NEED an engineer in your squad and I have one in everyone of my squads but I did not actually hear you say what Gold Order Soldiers to pick if you are NOT new to the game.* *Maybe the Machine Gunner Soldier? I want to get a USA Gold Order soldier.*
i meant, that if youre not new, it heavily depends of how far you already progressed, because normal progression makes gold order soldiers quite useless. i recommend waiting until the gold order soldier system gets overhauled and then spend your saved up orders profitably.
good video! would you a video about silver coins what to save up for and spend on im currently saving for mp40 but other than that i have no clue what to save for or best regiment squad
sorry for the dumb question but i m a relatively new player 🥺 when you buy one of this gun you receive only one gun or is like the normal one were you can buy how many you want?
I don’t know what it is with you constantly saying „vaikels“. It’s ve-hi-cles. I swear to god I usually don’t do correctional stuff like this but hearing it for 10 times in a row was a maddening experience.
Complete guide for ALL Gold Order weapons in Enlisted & quick soldier overview 🔥🔥🔥
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0:00 Gold Order Soldiers Guide
4:28 Gold Order Weapons - General Info
5:37 GERMANY - Pavesi M42
6:36 GERMANY - VMP 1926
7:44 GERMANY - Erma EMP
9:24 GERMANY - Beretta 1918/30
10:48 GERMANY - Artillery Luger
12:22 GERMANY - MKB 42(W)
13:27 GERMANY - Cönders MG
15:36 GERMANY - Scotti Mod.X
16:04 GERMANY - Lahti-Saloranta M/26
18:02 GERMANY - FN Model 1930
18:58 GERMANY - Mondragon M1908
20:04 GERMANY - Breda PG (CR)
22:33 GERMANY - Wz. 39 Mors
23:48 AMERICA - BSA 1929 Thompson
25:19 AMERICA - De Lisle Commando Carbine
26:30 AMERICA - M3 Suppressed
27:47 AMERICA - S&W Light Rifle
28:50 AMERICA - M1E5 Garand
29:21 AMERICA - Lanchester Model 1
29:52 AMERICA - W.A.R.
31:15 AMERICA - Farquhar-Hill M1918
31:50 AMERICA - T20E1 Rifle
33:59 AMERICA - Owen .45 ACP
35:12 SOVIETS - Mosin M91 Suppressor
37:37 SOVIETS - PPD-BraMit
39:06 SOVIETS - KB-P-135
40:11 SOVIETS - PP Shpitalniy 1940
41:39 SOVIETS - LAD
43:12 SOVIETS - SVD-38
44:01 SOVIETS - SVT 40 Drum
46:06 SOVIETS - Gorov LMG
47:24 SOVIETS - Bezruchko-Vysotsky SMG
49:02 JAPAN - Type Hei with extended Magazine
49:43 JAPAN - Type 1 SMG (1930)
50:26 JAPAN - FN Model 1930
51:20 JAPAN - Type A Sword-Pistol
53:58 JAPAN - Type Hei Rifle (late)
54:28 JAPAN - SIG 1930
m1e5 garand foldable gives smth in the game, You can use it on tanker, of cause if u like semi auto on tanker
another thing Gorov lmg, u compare it with top machineguns, but u can use it on any soldier, it means U should compare it with auto rifles like AVT40, and with this LMG u can make squad that has literally 7 machinegunners. It is very cool because bots with machineguns are very cool. Another way is to use with infantry squad having suvivability of 9 infantrymen u can give 5 machineguns 4 of wich wouldnt be the best machineguns but still very good.
OGs will remember the days when it was meta to get gold order engineers in tunisia campaign cuz you couldn't get any until level 9
The De Lisle Commando Carbine is chambered for .45 ACP. Just because a cartridge utilises the same bullet diameter as most rifle cartridges, that doesn't make it rifle calibre. It's essentially a suppressed bolt action Thompson. If the charge casing was, say, 100mm and the bullet was redesigned to be more streamlined, that would turn the cartridge into HMG calibre.
Gorov LMG is actually really good. It brakes the rulles because you can give it to engineers, rifleman, radioboys and anti-tankboys and its also really light. I use it in my full auto smg squad on my enegineer.
Facts
I like the Gorov because unlike other MGs you can give it to other classes. I just recently got four and gave them to my non-machine gunner soldiers on my MG squad, just to say "I got a squad full of MGs"
It's so sad when the best weapons in a WW2 game dominating the kill feed are fantasy guns and rejected prototypes like Cönders, G43 Kurz, AS, RPD, LAD
*The only gun that could be, even considered to be a "Fantasy" gun, is the Conders... there was only one weapon found and the engineers at Aberdeen Proving Grounds had to finish the build by using MG42 parts. It was still a real gun and existed & shot in physical form. There's also rumors that one of the family members of the designer was using one with his "City Milita" Volkstrum squad.*
@@brandonblackfyre5783 all of them are fantasy for Berlin because they were never issued to troops in WW2
@@brandonblackfyre5783 None of the weapons I mentioned were issued to troops.
They were never used in Battle of Berlin.
= Fantasy.
@@brandonblackfyre5783None of those were ever adopted by the militaries => fantasy
@@bbcmotd it's a good point but lot of them weren't adopted by army just because production/maintenance issues which in the game isn't properly reflected. But agree on the main point, the feed is full of extremely Forced-to-be-there weapons
Just for extremely fun and meme purposes, I am trying to equip all the 7 tankers in my type 3 Ka-Chi squad with sword pistols. I can literally have my tank rush in behind enemy lines and deploy 7 samurai with sword pistols. How epic was that
Ah yes, nothing like seeing most of your gold weapons that you bought upon their release become obsolete😂
26:20 I wanna say that it’s a .45 pistol round so that wouldn’t be a long range rifle because the drop on a .45 is quite big with it being already subsonic and has a suppressor on it so yeah it’s a slow moving quiet round… maybe the damage should be buffed a tad bit but not a lot… also if the game didn’t show which enemy killed you or where they were then it might workout quite well cause the enemy wouldn’t know where you would be because the suppressor minimizing flash and sound suppression but you can always try and takeout the ai players of a squad first and then finally shoot the main human played enemy because if your ai dies you kinda don’t know where from
The standard type hei rifle has only 5 rounds, I'd argue that the type hei late is currently the best semi auto japanese weapon, with otsu having pathetic damage and type 4 taking 5 years to reload. Probably still not worth the golden order though lol
I use it and it is good cause of very low recoil
I agreee with most of the points here. However there are some things I'd like to point out. The suppressed mosin velocity is half of what rifles usually have, so you need to aim higher to adjust for the drop.
The Gorov is not that bad because it can be equipped by an engineer. The main problem with it is that you only have 20/40 ammo and it has a high fire rate so you need to have an ammo pouch or be near an ammo box.
11.40mm in the de lisle is also .45 ACP 🙂
Thank you para your videos have helped me a lot.. video was helpful as always!
dang it, I was searching for a new one of these gold order videos yesterday😢 I ended up using a weapon order on breda PG
worth, it will still be good 1 year in the future =D
I played Breda PG on an engineer back when campaigns were around, i definitely recommend it for engineers. especially if you have schnellfeuer to back it up. De lisle carbine is not an HMG caliber, it is chambered in 45 ACP, aka the same caliber as M1911A1 and all the thompsons.
Suppressed revolver can fire quite fast, like almost as fast as a grease gun, but you cannot aim while firing it that fast.
Glad I never fell for some of the traps, I have to say the breda pg on engineer is op, make sure to put down an ammo box.
I've been using the scotti mod X recently, it's much better than the free semi auto at tier 2 for Germany, it's got 1 more damage and faster reload speed which helps especially when fighting russians with body armor (fully upgraded armagura hitmarkers them)
The m1e5 garand ability to be used by tankers is interesting. Although I would rather something like the m2a1 carbine. Also the lanchester mod 1 is not a mp40, more like mp41(r).
I dont know if its the sights, but the LS-26 just seems more accurate to me than the MG-13 .
Thank you so much for making this.
im so sad they removed the supressed M91 before I could get it
I like the Type Hei cause it has very low recoil and prety good sights :3
Hey para, I am split between the artillery luger and the conders, I basically only play germany low br, never tried high br but still far from silver and research to have competitive weapons, so would you recommend saving it for the conder or even another nation or just enjoying the luger now?
LUGER is better, since its really useful and can be fun. cönders is secretely just worse than stg
@@paradivision1362 Thanks a lot and have a great weekend
Can you do a similar video for BP vehicles? I don't know which ones to buy based on my BR (or if I even should buy any)
yep, coming. i am waiting for the new big update (likely this week) to add top tier tanks for america & japan, to see how the influence vehicle balance and then i release the vehicle guide.
@paradivision1362 the gorov isn't great but you missed out the part where it's not for the machine gunner class, it's for rifle men, engineers etc. Still in the wrong br.
@@paradivision1362 Thanks so much
I love having the event paratroopers from the past, I've earned all of them except the very 1st pacific one unfortunately I missed that 😕
the japanese one is terrible if it makes you feel better
By your own logic you should have rated the Type Hei rifles a definite buy - similar to the artillery luger - as the Type Hei are better than any other semi automatic rifles the japanese have at BR IV. Therefor you can increase your power level significantly with them. Possibly more significant than you can with using an Artillery Luger over an ordinary pistol.
Compared to the Type 4 the Type Hei may lose slightly on damage but offers a 45% faster reload, better recoil and dispersion as well as arguably much better sights resulting in a much more operable rifle for a multitude of situational uses. Even the Type Hei Extended - while slightly worse than the late Hei - is still better than the Type 4.
your point makes sense, though the upgrades arent that significant & i strongly anticipated a select fire rifle to be released soon when making that video (which was confirmed last week with the upcoming assault rifle). therefore i specifically avoided anyone to recommend buying a weapon they would regret within 1-2 months of buying. ive learned the rhythm of gaijin releasing new weapons over the last 2 years, so i always look a quarter in the future to see whether something will retain its value.
@@paradivision1362Half the reload time and better control with your main rifle is arguably much more valuable than having some more rounds in your secondary but I see your point in anticipating a better rifle option for Japan.
It´s to be anticipated that If things go well for Enlisted BR I and IV get disconnected from their current grouping and get their own +/- 1 matchmaker which would make weapons specific for that BR worth it again. That´s a big "if" as enlisted suddenly needs to get much more successful but when that moment might come some weapons - especially those removed from the battlepass section - can become quite sought-after again.
Only if you could give sniper rifles without scope to regular infantry SVD38 would be op, surprisingly good sights scopeless.
owen .45 is worse than every other unlock possible for allies imo. sten is pretty good so infinitely better and even a shotty or just a knife is probably better...
The De Lisle has a huge caliber but you have to take a look at the muzzle velocity. In order to make it really quiet they had to use subsonic ammunition, so it has to fire under 340.29 m/s, which is the speed of sound or otherwise it will create a sonic boom when firing. Other bolt actions in this game have a muzzle velocity 3 times higher than the De Lisle, which explains the kinda weak bullets.
Still it could have been a really interesting gold order choice if the devs just had bended realistic credibility a bit (like they did with many other weapons such as semi auto vs bolt action damage) and just given it bolt action damage or at least semi auto damage, even at the cost of rate of fire or a much higher damage drop off. The way they implemented it made it useless from the beginning. A waste of work time.
*I am a little confused on the "Best Gold Order Soldiers" part because you say if you are new to the game then you should get a Engineer and I 100% agree, you NEED an engineer in your squad and I have one in everyone of my squads but I did not actually hear you say what Gold Order Soldiers to pick if you are NOT new to the game.*
*Maybe the Machine Gunner Soldier? I want to get a USA Gold Order soldier.*
i meant, that if youre not new, it heavily depends of how far you already progressed, because normal progression makes gold order soldiers quite useless. i recommend waiting until the gold order soldier system gets overhauled and then spend your saved up orders profitably.
46:07 @paradivision1362 you can give gorov lmg to your specialists and engineers by the way
Great video bro
17:41 it helps you run fast
17:41 it helps you lag behind what is to be achived. XD
What ever happened there I didn't even watch it, cause I know its wrong
good video! would you a video about silver coins what to save up for and spend on im currently saving for mp40 but other than that i have no clue what to save for or best regiment squad
ill do that soon for germans
@@paradivision1362 my man!
I like the gold order soldiers cause of medals 😂
I don't care about performance I want them all 🤑
Can I complete battle pass if miss a few days or is it flexible to be able to complete? Is everyone at the same level today?
there are usually many weeks of surplus time to complete
Thank you.@@paradivision1362
what is the Battle Rating of those soldier?
all 1, can be played anywhere
Console noob here, i see no artillery luger, or suppressed guns. Was this a limited time thing or what changed?
they remove some weapons after a while.
@@paradivision1362 do they ever come back around? Also, when do these premium squad sales I hear about usually come around?
sorry for the dumb question but i m a relatively new player 🥺 when you buy one of this gun you receive only one gun or is like the normal one were you can buy how many you want?
you get 1. a few of these weapons can be bought multiple times, everytime for a new gold order.
@@paradivision1362 thank you ;)
I don’t know what it is with you constantly saying „vaikels“. It’s ve-hi-cles. I swear to god I usually don’t do correctional stuff like this but hearing it for 10 times in a row was a maddening experience.
He just has an accent. I find it interesting, definitely not annoying to me lol. Also I find this info really helpful 😊❤.