RX 5600 XT vs. RTX 2060 Super, Radeon or GeForce, Which Offered Gamers the Most Value?

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  • @odizzido
    @odizzido 3 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    I didn't know the 5600XT was so good. 120 dollars cheaper for only a 5-6% reduction in frame rate. At that price range that's a very solid win for the 5600XT to me.

    • @_A.d.G_
      @_A.d.G_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      That's why Nvidia still sells: because people don't know and bribed influencers don't want you to know.

    • @lewzealand4717
      @lewzealand4717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I dismissed the 5600XT after the initial reviews until I later spent some time looking at HUB's performance for price graphs. Same as the GTX 1080 for $280 and was noticeably faster than the 1660 Super (a great value card) for only $40 more. Got one late last summer for MSRP which ended up being a great tech purchase.

    • @ShogoKawada123
      @ShogoKawada123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This video is literally the first time I've *ever* seen the opinion expressed that these two cards were somehow meant to be direct competitors to each other. I find it quite confusing.

    • @timothygibney159
      @timothygibney159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank Nvidia tainted news and fanboys laughing at AMD. Most gamers assume amd sucks so why listen to the reviews

    • @ShogoKawada123
      @ShogoKawada123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@timothygibney159 You make it sound like HUB themselves ever put out a review in 2020 that painted the 5600 XT as some sort of clearly better alternative to the 2060 Super specifically. The certainly didn't, because again they didn't cost nearly the same in real life and generally weren't ever compared by real people at large. Don't forget that the 5600 XT was launched in January 2020, also, while there were no Turing cards released any later than various points in 2019. The 5600 XT is almost a full year newer than the GTX 1660 Ti, for example.

  • @Jollyroger84103
    @Jollyroger84103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    The fact that the 5600XT is matching or beat the 2060S in any game is kind of embarrassing for such a massive price discrepancy.

    • @gabrielst527
      @gabrielst527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Let's not even mention the fact that nvidia aided a lot on unreal engine 4 development and for some reason AMD cards get 10 fps less in games of that engine, even when in properly optimized games they either get the same or higher performance. The only corporation that does this at plain view yet they have fanboys that follow them.(Nvidia) Amazing.

    • @Purjo92
      @Purjo92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      2060S has DLSS + good RTX implementation, and pricing depends per country basis. In my country, you can't get either of those new, but their price in used market is not that far from each other as MSRP make it look like.

    • @arconada
      @arconada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@Purjo92 "good" RTX... 20's RTX is kind of a joke, isn't it?

    • @broklond
      @broklond 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@Purjo92 2060 and 2060super are barely usable in rtx mode even with dlss turned on so lets not put too much emphasis on that

    • @Jollyroger84103
      @Jollyroger84103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Purjo92 DLSS is good, but not in enough games to account for such a massive price difference (and I'm going by launch MSRP, not some other anomalous currency to which you're alluding). As for Ray Tracing, that's a joke on any of the 2060 series. It can barely handle the standard rasterization tests above 1080p, even without adding a high tech lighting systems. Turning on Ray Tracing at 1080p means you loose any chance of using high quality textures and LOD.

  • @rare6499
    @rare6499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +406

    I remember those golden days when we were able to buy GPU’s at RRP.

    • @hhectorlector
      @hhectorlector 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      now we buy GPUs at RIP.

    • @BeatmasterAC
      @BeatmasterAC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      i remember when Mid Class GPUs were 300 (€/$) max and Top End GPUs 800 at max (the good old 8800Ultra / GTX 280 days)

    • @evila9076
      @evila9076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@BeatmasterAC you mean 500$ (gtx 480)

    • @alphapt9370
      @alphapt9370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And I also remember buying movie tickets for less than 2 bucks.
      But yeh, prices have hiked way too much for the short amount of time that has passed, even if technology has improved tenfold. What I am really worried is that we only have two companies at this (soon to be three, with Intel, but they have a shit track record regarding pricing), and both of them are walking away from low end\mid performance GPUs, and making\forcing people to choose integrated graphics CPU's for low budget builds.
      And companies cant even claim that the costs have increased, so they have to raise prices, as their earning reports are public, and it is obvious they're making bank every quarter.

    • @rare6499
      @rare6499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@evalangley3985 I wasn’t really talking about Turing tbh. My first GPU was a Riva TNT. I’ve seen the ups and downs.

  • @carlod803
    @carlod803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Stoked that I got my Sapphire 5600XT Pulse OC last October 2020 at SRP when the closest RTX2060S had at least a $100 more price difference. Since the game I play nowadays are not too demanding, IMHO it is also capable 1440p card.

    • @xAureliusx
      @xAureliusx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Literally me with a 5500XT mech from msi last October too
      $200 flat at best buy

    • @nadtz
      @nadtz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hell, if they games you play aren't that demanding a 5500xt does pretty good at 1440 as well. If I were only concerned with gaming Id get a 6700 and be done with it but for the other stuff I do an nvidia card is the better option.

    • @AdvancedNoob40
      @AdvancedNoob40 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      From where i live 2060 super is 20% cheaper than 5600xt. But both of them is 2 or 3 times expensive than msrp tho.

    • @hmm_monke
      @hmm_monke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AdvancedNoob40 right now its more expensive as navi 1st gen is better than turing at mining i believe

    • @Texastalon
      @Texastalon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its not that 1440p capable with 6 gbs of vram.

  • @gwagnsso
    @gwagnsso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    I'm holding on to my RX480 a little while longer. Still does Warframe at eye-bleeding quality at +60 FPS :)

    • @Guilherme_Oliveira72
      @Guilherme_Oliveira72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mjn5016 Yeah, Warframe is just so well optimized game

    • @darinsteele7091
      @darinsteele7091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i've had the reference 480 since launch week and still no problem in modern games as long as I tune the graphics.

    • @Guilherme_Oliveira72
      @Guilherme_Oliveira72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@darinsteele7091 I had a Vega 64 and now I have a 5700XT, and it is a joy to play at 2160x1080, the only game I can't play at high graphics and 75fps is Cyberpunk

    • @aerbon
      @aerbon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i had planned to upgrade from my 940mx and build a desktop once ampere released
      now here i am, looking at old, used, broken gpu's being sold above msrp and wondering if i could make it work...

    • @那人冷靜一點
      @那人冷靜一點 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Guilherme_Oliveira72 wow using a low end card for 4k, why? 720 is good for 5700xt but 4k? My 3080 only runs at 1440 240

  • @wawagabriel
    @wawagabriel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    glad to see you back Steve, hope you feel better !

  • @domm6812
    @domm6812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    I like that you guys hesitate to call your viewers fanboys ....even when there always are some. There are some TH-camrs who jump straight to those accusations and the slightest whiff of criticism. I personally love your COST comparison approach to reviewing, because it is always relevant, but especially so in recent times.

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Name calling is dumb" ;) I joke about that, but it really is true. Any TH-cam that can avoid obvious baiting to call people names, wins points for style and wit. They were not gonna be led into the deep then embarrassed, too busy making this awesome channel!

    • @alphapt9370
      @alphapt9370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Well, all reputable reviewers I watch have been called Nvidia\AMD shills depending on the results of their review. Most of them have grown thick enough skin not to care and see past the bullshit. As a tangent, it still blows my mind people willing to die on multibillion dollar companies hill that do not care about them. They're consumers, but rather act like this is a sport and they're rooting for their team to win.

    • @plays5501
      @plays5501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alphapt9370 well, like linus said, fanboy is who called the others a paid shills

    • @sushimshah2896
      @sushimshah2896 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alphapt9370 reminds me of i🐑

    • @djnorth2020
      @djnorth2020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said. With the total chaos of graphics card prices, I think there should be a numeral estimate for performance. Then you could see the prices and calculate estimated price to performance.
      I think AMD has amazing cards finally but they are ruining the good will with these Nvidia prices. They might be selling but I'm seeing a vast amount of AMD cards available (at horrible prices) compared to no or small amounts of Nvidia cards (at stupid prices).

  • @bigal2688
    @bigal2688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Hey Steve! Hope you're feeling Better! Great work as always! Looking forward to the 6600 XT reviews later this week! Cheers! 🍻😃

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Thanks BigAl, much better now mate and I'm working hard on the 6600 XT review ;)

  • @AxleTrade
    @AxleTrade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Most people tend to forget that the 5600 XT is a significant gpu and does make a dent in the market and is pretty underrated. In other countries, it's not only significantly cheaper than the 2060 and its equivalents, it is a cut down 5700 so the capabilities are still there and the BIOS upgrade makes it one hell of a midrange card.

  • @jovpal5685
    @jovpal5685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Welcome back Steve from the internet
    Hope the market normalizes cause I just want to upgrade my rx570 into a 5600xt or a 2060super which would be nice

    • @geromendez5305
      @geromendez5305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I don't know your specs but I Would go for a rx 6600, normal or xt

    • @Angel7black
      @Angel7black 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly a normal 2060 is a better buy than a 5600 XT based on just the fact that it has better features and reliable drivers. Plus not all 5600XTs are the same die to amd playing themselves.

    • @jovaneybernard2206
      @jovaneybernard2206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Angel7black Cocaine is a hell of a drug...you should stop it😉👌

    • @TuskForce
      @TuskForce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@geromendez5305 if this goes on a 7600 doesn't sound that far anymore :'D

    • @jovpal5685
      @jovpal5685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Angel7black naah the 2060 base models are just scam like how the 1060 was Nvidia is also a scammer when it comes to their own GPU
      Super could have been the base cards but nope let's make it a Super so we can sell it to suckers

  • @smashing-3291
    @smashing-3291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Glad i didn't pay 120$ more to get a nearly same performance, really happy with my 5600 XT Pulse.

    • @MafiaboysWorld
      @MafiaboysWorld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same. 👍

    • @kennyd7667
      @kennyd7667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I wish I did buy a Rx 5600 xt when it was less than MSRP to upgrade from my Rx 570

    • @FloatingOfficial
      @FloatingOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      same the pulse model is very good. Offers best noise and cooling performance.

    • @damara2268
      @damara2268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@FloatingOfficial yeah lol, 5600xt was literally better in $/performance than current AMD 6700xt and 6600xt (i take the market price for each card not MSRP)

    • @wolvAUS
      @wolvAUS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Until you enable DLSS and then the 2060 wipes the floor.

  • @gioscopantana8349
    @gioscopantana8349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm so tired of this shortage. 1/2 years ago i was hesitant to buy a 5700xt for 300 and i waited for it to drop (lmao). Now that i have money and i could buy a 5800xt for msrp i need to keep playing with my rx570.

    • @AlexKidd
      @AlexKidd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same with me, these cards are both over £500 at the moment here in the UK, £500 for a very average graphics card is silly money. Things have gone crazy,

    • @helldatrev
      @helldatrev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you mean a 6800xt?

    • @saputrasaputra3347
      @saputrasaputra3347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      chip shortage is just a myth, nvidia and amd have been directly selling gpus to big mining farms
      shame on nvidia and amd, decades they have been living by selling gpus to gamers, now they are priotizing miners

    • @helldatrev
      @helldatrev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@saputrasaputra3347 lol so all the other industries affected by the shortage are in on this great conspiracy so miner can buy graphics cards? Get the fuck outta here dude, why don't you do some actual research and get your facts straight instead of watching these brain dead TH-camrs who have been pushing that dumb ass narrative.

  • @grizzzlyadamz
    @grizzzlyadamz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I’m still using my Sapphire Pulse 5600xt.

    • @helldatrev
      @helldatrev 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same :)

    • @richardoverton57
      @richardoverton57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeh! They Kick Ass Cards! I got a Sap.5600xt an a Sap.5700xt. So Nice even Today 2021. Blitz all AAA titles Good ! Both paired with Old gen AMD Ryz 3600 .in both rigs.

    • @musek5048
      @musek5048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardoverton57 are you me? lol i literally have two pc's with the exact same setups. to say they still kick ass is an understatement, they're amazing cards simply because we got them at their fair original prices! i would have felt ripped off spending upwards of $1000 for a single card just to GAME. i really hope the market goes somewhere near where it used to be but the way these companies and customers have all reacted to the rising costs it really doesnt give me much hope anytime soon.

    • @richardoverton57
      @richardoverton57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@musek5048 Yeah,I know the feeling! I dont feel outclassed with either of these cards in their respective rigs. for my gaming. Best Bang for $$$ then an Still Are near 2 Yr Later. Sorry for all the Guys n Gals Gaming that never had the chance then for low $$$ to get one these. Oh! Oh! thats the times now? Cheers! n enjoy!

    • @musek5048
      @musek5048 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardoverton57 now i know how the boomers felt during their "golden era" of affordable commodities before inflation eventually hit them hard lol

  • @StarFury2
    @StarFury2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm an Nvidia 3080 owner and I have this to say:
    5700XT was 100$ cheaper than 2060S (real market price in my region, in Aug 2019) while also being slightly faster. Considering nowadays you can also resell 5700XT for at least 150% what you paid for 2 years ago, makes it AMD card a better deal by far!
    Being fanboy is one thing, not having any knowledge of the market is another. It's the latter ones that leave silly comments.

    • @K.R.X
      @K.R.X 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Last gen I really think Nvidea should've gotten way more hate and amd should've been the one on top sales. But unfortunately nvidea fanboys are everywhere.

  • @chaywarburton3488
    @chaywarburton3488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My 5600xt pulse holds very well right now. I'm enjoying it. The temps are unbelievable.

    • @jpfidalgo7
      @jpfidalgo7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, sapphire has been nailing the Pulse line since Vega. My Vega 56 Pulse had amazing temperatures and the “pass through” cooling due to the short PCB. An advantage from HBM. And on RDNA lines they seem to have kept some of the best cooling on the market without a steep price increase over MSRP with the pulse line. But if overclocking is your thing, consider the Nitro or even other brands.

    • @xxprojessexx8838
      @xxprojessexx8838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mine tooo MSI Gaming X the best fck card

    • @Jolbulka
      @Jolbulka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have red dragon and honestly it is amazing card. But it is currently mining (at 76W !) And I have 3070 in my system

  • @AvgCroissant
    @AvgCroissant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I own an RX 5600 XT, because I was planning to buy an RTX 3070, but unsurprisingly wasn’t able to get my hands on one. I didn’t have any other option, so I had to go with something, and the 5600 XT seemed to be the only card available at the time (Nov 2020). Still been wanting to upgrade, but this video kinda showed that this card is actually pretty great. Was able to squeeze out a generous overclock as well (~1770MHz GPU, 1800MHz VRAM)

  • @ferdlc7757
    @ferdlc7757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Remember when we called the rx5700 and rx 5700xt overpriced? Little did we know prices were going to be even more insane later on...

    • @canaconn2388
      @canaconn2388 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're still overpriced

    • @UKKNGaming
      @UKKNGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They were never overpriced it just didn't have ray tracing when ray tracing wasn't even relevant so people assumed it was the worse card when in raw performance it was the same thing

    • @Daxter250
      @Daxter250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      we called the rx 5700 xt overpriced? why the heck did i buy one then for 400 thinking it was an awesome deal?

  • @kennethd4958
    @kennethd4958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Crazy the 5600XT… a card made to rival the 2060… is on par with the 2060Super now.

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      AMD has a history of ekeing surprising amounts of performance out of their cards over the lifetime of the card, via driver optimizations. They call it their FineWine technology, and sometimes, like here, it does indeed appear to work.

    • @eliasnurmohamadseperah9013
      @eliasnurmohamadseperah9013 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      which newest driver version 5600xt is good and not buggy?

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eliasnurmohamadseperah9013 I'd say any non-beta driver. Haven't had any bugs in ages.

  • @ae92levingtapex
    @ae92levingtapex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I'm still very happy with my 5600XT! Great 1080p card

    • @maxwellb.2364
      @maxwellb.2364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I know it's meant for 1080p, but I use It for a 100hz 3440x 1440 ultra wide and it runs every game I play well, so I'm kinda confused why people are still calling the upcoming 6600xt a 1080p card when it's clearly capable of more

    • @RafitoOoO
      @RafitoOoO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@maxwellb.2364 because that's what AMD is marketing it themselves lol.

    • @slimegante7663
      @slimegante7663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@maxwellb.2364 maybe because newer titles are more demanding than the games you play?

    • @NyangisKhan
      @NyangisKhan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@RafitoOoO that's probably AMD's way of saying "it's not a 3060ti" but I'm pretty sure the 6600xt is going to smoke the bitchass 3060 easy. I mean the 3060 barely beats the 2060super.

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxwellb.2364 It really depends what kinda eye candy you're trying to run. 1080p on ultra will need a 6600XT to stay above 60fps on everything while 1440p on all low will only take an RX 5500 XT to do 60fps for most games.

  • @andyjoelharper3448
    @andyjoelharper3448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I miss my Sapphire 5600xt Pulse. One of the best video cards I ever had! Paid ~$280 USD for it brand new! It would just mow down any game I came across. But recently got a Sapphire 6700xt Reference model and a Sapphire 6800xt Nitro +. Love these cards. I wish I could have kept the 5600xt but upgraded my monitor to 2k UW 34" curved panel and a 55" 4k curved TV. I knew my 5600xt was a 1080p card. Might gotten away with some 1440p gaming but knew it couldn't handle 4k. Great vid, Steve! Cheers! :D

  • @PlasticForkLift
    @PlasticForkLift 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It isn't about DLSS or Ray Tracing a graphics card without DX12 Ultimate is a tough pill to swallow tbh. 5600xt at the time isn't very future proof, its missing Mesh shaders, Variable rate shading and even sampler feedback. Without DX12U support the card is going to struggle in future titles. At the time when the 5600xt was released it had a better price but the price premium for the 2060 Super kind of made sense, especially when you keep that card for years and don't upgrade every cycle.

    • @GodKitty677
      @GodKitty677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      More or less true. never buy an old card that feature wise is out of date. A mistake I will never make a second time.

    • @Ghostsonplanets
      @Ghostsonplanets 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly. Back then it was a good buy recommendation but now? Nope. Do not buy a card without DX12U support.

    • @gamingunboxed5130
      @gamingunboxed5130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Ghostsonplanets wake me up when this is a serious issue.

    • @goncaloduarte4683
      @goncaloduarte4683 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gamingunboxed5130 it will probably be an issue next year, Ratchet & Clank (a PS5 exclusive released a few months ago) already requires DirectX Storage like feature, so it won't take long until a game like it comes to PC.

    • @goncaloduarte4683
      @goncaloduarte4683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And directX storage for my understanding won't be available on the 5600XT, that's a serious issue, games that won't be released for last gen consoles will use it so it can be playable.

  • @ghibodeus
    @ghibodeus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I feel lucky for having bought my sapphire 5600xt back in March 2020, just before the first lockdown, for 300 euros. And cheers to my old lady R9 290x for dying at just the right time

  • @gonzalotome7875
    @gonzalotome7875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've seen the 5600XT as low as 240€ and the 2060 Super for 330€ last summer both brand new. At those prices they were great options, one for the price/performance it offers, and the other for the extra 2GB VRAM, DLSS, DX12 Ultimate support and superior RT performance.

    • @ShogoKawada123
      @ShogoKawada123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These cards were never in the same "class" to begin with. The comparison in this video doesn't really make sense in general, I'd say.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ShogoKawada123 In raw reasterization they're absolutely comparable. In price/perf and feature set they're obviously dissimilar, and it's going to come down to wallet vs preference.

    • @SoftnappGAMEPLAY
      @SoftnappGAMEPLAY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you do blender then 2060s way more better

  • @Paulie8K
    @Paulie8K 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If you have any of these cards you are good imo. I have the 5700XT and honestly don't see a reason to upgrade especially with FSR support growing.

  • @nonaccettanullah301
    @nonaccettanullah301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    either you stack them up price for price or for similar performance, and since the 2060s and 5700xt were the same MSRP I think it was a fair comparison, like 5600xt vs 2060/s or 5700xt vs 2070s

    • @alphapt9370
      @alphapt9370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If "we" are doing a comparison to see performance gap, it doesnt make sense stacking them by performance.... "we" stack them by msrp at launch.

    • @nonaccettanullah301
      @nonaccettanullah301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alphapt9370 it's not hard to determine through the previous benchmarks if two cards are within a couple percentage points of each other or completely misaligned. Of course there's no comparison between a 3090 and a 5600xt, but that was pretty easy to figure out even without these benchmarks

    • @samdixon3719
      @samdixon3719 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      if 5600xt is almost as good as 2060 s imagine how 5700 stacks against it with the same price

    • @Icetea-2000
      @Icetea-2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samdixon3719 Not just 5700, but the 5700xt even
      AMD had insane value with RDNA1

    • @samdixon3719
      @samdixon3719 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Icetea-2000 i agree, but dudes with 5700 flashed to 5700xt bios are bosses rn...i have rx5700 but not too confident to do the move but i know countless ppl who have done it but i didnt cuz i dont need to anyways

  • @xthelord1668
    @xthelord1668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i would really like to see them both unlocked and overclocked,because we know AMD was conservative with clocks (my sapphire pulse rx5600xt runs 2000mhz core 1950mhz mem when unlocked at 1100mv) which made it better

  • @riasatalam13
    @riasatalam13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I own an MSI RX 5600 XT Gaming MX and I was waiting for a video how it performs in 2021! Thank you so much!

  • @CtrlAltSk8
    @CtrlAltSk8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 5600xt was the card that made me stick with AMD. Here in New Zealand this time last year a 5600xt was around $200 NZD cheaper than an rtx 2060 super. My friend brought the 2060 and I brought the 5600 xt and we were both using 7th gen i5 CPUs and let me tell you the 5600xt makes an even more compelling argument on "older" cpus that most people will be using. It was a good 5-10fps faster in pretty much everything. Running a 2060 and 5600xt on a 5950x doesn't make a whole lot of sense but I understand why it's done that way for benchmarking. Just saying you might be even more surprised seeing the comparison on a real world cpu

    • @K.R.X
      @K.R.X 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You guys really should jump ship to amd for cpu.

  • @vh9network
    @vh9network 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I'm interested in seeing that BIOStar RX 6600 XT review. I've only sparingly seen that manufacture through the decades. I think I once had one of their Socket A or 939 motherboards before I switched to MSI.
    Also please do a Cost Per Frame chart. I know the GPUs aren't being sold at MSRP thanks to AIB/reseller greed, but it would be interesting to see where the 6600 XT will sit at.

    • @PainterVierax
      @PainterVierax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Since a graphics card has stricter rules of design and is very limited in BIOS tweaking, there is a better chance that Biostar don't suck with this product than with motherboards.

    • @viduranisal
      @viduranisal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PainterVierax It'll be mostly cooling and VRM performance we'll have to keep an eye on, apart from build quality which is more of a long term observation with current tech.

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even if they're not great, the market needs more AIBs. We've lost a ton over the last 20 years

    • @PainterVierax
      @PainterVierax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@amirpourghoureiyan1637 Sure but we still have at least enough AIB on each part to avoid oligopolies. What is more concerning for a sane competition is the drastic reduction of bleeding edge semiconductor foundries and designers of x86CPU, dGPU, HDD, RAM/FlashNAND.

    • @Icetea-2000
      @Icetea-2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, about that biostar 6600xt….

  • @EleanorMcHugh
    @EleanorMcHugh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve an RX 5600XT paired with an i7-4790K in a mini-ITX system. It makes for a decent gaming experience even in Cyberpunk 2077. This in 2023.

  • @christiansonsen
    @christiansonsen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The only way to see a GPU is by these youtube videos, they're merely visual entertainment. I've been blessed I must say 'cause I'm enjoying my Vega 56 right now. No need to look for a GPU. Peace and stay strong.

  • @OTechnology
    @OTechnology 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I am surprised there's even a few games the 5600 XT were better at. Also the 5600 XT was crippled to not eat into 5700/XT sales out of the factory, now with morepowertool and a custom bios you can now get clocks up to 2GHz+ like the 5700 cards and get even better performance.

    • @vh9network
      @vh9network 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AMD had to release a BIOS revision at the time of the 5600 XT launch to increase the clock speeds because the card was performance results were underwhelming initially to the vanilla 2060.

    • @alphapt9370
      @alphapt9370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If i remember it correctly, even AMD put out a tool for people to flash their 5600XT onto a 5700, with the warning of "results may vary".
      However, it's still back in the day that AMD was trying to offer product at better value than Nvidia. The pricing for the 6xxx series is a step on the wrong direction.

    • @83RhalataShera
      @83RhalataShera 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean you could just get the 5700 and flash it to to the XT bios and you could as well use the morepowertool so... :D (also the 8gb VRAM makes the 5700 better than 5600XT IMO). Grabbed myself 5700XT, I run it with a UV and a very slight underclock over the factory OC (only about 2-3% less performance than factory OC) for low temps and noise. Perfect for 1080p@144hz with all settings that max out VRAM cranked :)

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vh9network that BIOS upgrade still isn't fully unlocked. There's a proper way to do it with an unlocked msi bios now. Very nearly same as a 5700 performance out of the 5600 XT.

    • @chriswright8074
      @chriswright8074 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alphapt9370 no it's not in the wrong direction

  • @philwithcheese
    @philwithcheese 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Love these revisits. One thing that would be cool is maybe also testing these with some more price appropriate CPUs as well. The NVIDIA CPU overhead issue might be relevant for deciding if these are decent buys on the second hand market

    • @alexusman
      @alexusman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bottlenecked testing is useless. In that case you might as well replace fps numbers with ratings like "good enough".

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      That sort of testing makes more sense for the CPU/GPU scaling content. Also thank you :)

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Hardwareunboxed is legendary :) Thanks for all this amazing content, integrity is like diamond dust on TH-cam. But I know to tip my hat and throw a coin when I see it! BIG BIG Big kudos!

    • @hussenmazen8036
      @hussenmazen8036 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That will be great

    • @sushimshah2896
      @sushimshah2896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hardwareunboxed I do support your position, but what I think @Phil meant was-in addition to this revisit, how about a comparison of the 2 GPUs with "price appropriate" CPUs to showcase the more *'realistic'* pairing & hence performance, bcoz then the results may tend to favour the Radeon card even more as I imagine the perf diff. would narrow down. And like always, you can mention in the Final Thoughts that if u were to upgrade your CPU first rather than your GPU, then the RTX card will pull ahead

  • @stephenckent
    @stephenckent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5600xt was the card that got me back into AMD GPUs, bought one for the kids computer and it's been a pleasant surprise how well it performs, if you dial down a few settings and keep within 6gb mem limit. Super efficient, still very usable in 2021- keep up the good content

    • @adrianafamilymember6427
      @adrianafamilymember6427 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I might get get one in 2022 after all:
      - This is the predecessor to the RX 6600 XT which is currently $360.
      - better than the RX 6600 at $275(can't remember) but the RX 5600 XT is around $215~ on eBay
      - PCIE 4.0 wish it had more VRAM yet the value to performance blows away!
      - You know how I said "on eBay" well during this gen the RX 5x00 was the mining card selection of choice.
      - Less popular than the RX 5700 XT which allows some cards to escape the gulag of the forced crypto decryption

  • @weecious
    @weecious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2060 Super now days should be compared to RX 5700 (non XT).

  • @WTP_DAVE
    @WTP_DAVE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I sometimes click videos just to hear the intro

  • @stephenlynn1233
    @stephenlynn1233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your videos are excellent being up front & honest and you cut through all the crap by giving us good comparisons and your personal opinion. Keep the good work up!

  • @gkirmathal
    @gkirmathal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still glad I got my 5600XT Pulse on a discount for €270 a few months after it got released. With much matured drivers since mid 2020 the weird black screen issue was solved for me and for the games I play with it I am still very much content.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Halving the performance difference to the 2060 Super at 1080p must be a nice "sorry for the initial driver fuss" bonus as well. From what I can see Epic is focusing heavily on AMD optimization with UE5, so next gen games should keep or exceed this trend... It would be funny if Steve's 2023 revisit showed them 2-3% different :P

  • @richardwinstanley8219
    @richardwinstanley8219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Nvidia Fans: No you cant compare the 2060 Super to 5700 XT as they're not the same performance bracket!!!
    Also Nvidia Fans: noooooo you cant compare the 2060 Super to the 5600 XT as they're not the same price bracket!!!

    • @musek5048
      @musek5048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nvidia Fans: we had more money than brains so please dont compare these cards and point out our flawed logic!

    • @xxprojessexx8838
      @xxprojessexx8838 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @tonymallory6978
    @tonymallory6978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got the 5600xt last year for 280 at Best Buy. Sold it. bought a strix 3070 for a 200 difference. 5600xt was solid in gaming in 1080 and decent at 1440p

  • @vh9network
    @vh9network 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    OK Steve, but you forgot the *5700 Non-XT* existed in 2019
    It was that GPU that competed with the 2060 Super.
    The 5600XT competed with the vanilla RTX 2060. Hence both have 6GB GDDR6.

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The RTX 2060 was basically discontinued by the time the 5600 XT arrived. Nvidia baited with that $300 discount but a month later you couldn't find the 2006 in most regions.

    • @vh9network
      @vh9network 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hardwareunboxed sadly we will never see a deal like the EVGA RTX 2060 KO again, I remember the $20 instant rebate made the card $280 and had me questioning and kicking myself in the head for spending $309 on a Aorus GTX 1660 Ti a year earlier.

  • @AlexandruJalea
    @AlexandruJalea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    how's your back mate? good to see you back!

  • @kaisyaya8492
    @kaisyaya8492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    me on 2020-2021, oh yes graphics cards, interesting to watch

  • @Weretarantula5
    @Weretarantula5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! I had both these cards at some point last year before upgrading and loved them both.

  • @K.R.X
    @K.R.X 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy hell. Nvidea fanboys went crazy on this video in reddit. Sad reality. Grown men tryna defend their precios "Little" company like it matters.
    All nvidea is are just fanboys and professionals. For 90% games AMD cards are the better choice. (My opinion)

  • @Sm0kinJoe1
    @Sm0kinJoe1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 5600XT. For a long time I had issues with black screen until I eventually found out that the "Logitech Options" mouse & keyboard software was causing it. Such a strange problem. I wish AMD would make their drivers more robust. It's a great 1080p card, but I'm now ready to upgrade to something more powerful for 1440p.

  • @iri3490
    @iri3490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have а 2060 Super and I am very sad to see these results... I think NVIDIA really kills the old gpus to make the new look better... My next gpu will be Radeon. :) Radeon gpus really lasts longer and aging better!

  • @JohnBarber
    @JohnBarber 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Picked up a vanilla RX 5700 back in January 2020 for a mere $300. I've since flashed it with the 5700 XT BIOS, making it an absolutely killer value.

  • @igorschannel
    @igorschannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would always watch these comparisons looking for every FPS difference, as I had an RX 570. I had the opportunity to change to a 2080 super and now it seems so irrelevant. Is everything in life like this?

    • @cadraf
      @cadraf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True man, i have an 580 was expecting to change for a 2070 around this year but i guess not…

    • @The_Man_In_Red
      @The_Man_In_Red 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cadraf I went from 1060 to 2070 for 1080p/144Hz - it's a huge leap. Anything near 2070/3060/6600XT is gonna give you all the frames you need. (I don't play Ultra settings though, only High)
      Good luck, hope you can upgrade soon.

    • @timothygibney159
      @timothygibney159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude I got your card and was mad at myself for wasting so much money as I too had a 470. ... We both dodged a bullet as you can't get a GPU today for under $1000. True the 2080S is not full 1440p for all titles at 144 hz its best we can do

  • @zodwraith5745
    @zodwraith5745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The entire 20 series was priced horribly. The 1600 cards were priced realistically. Only DLSS even puts it into consideration and while it's gotten much more adoption, it's still far from universal.

  • @JohnThunder
    @JohnThunder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ah MSRP the myth, the Legend!!!

  • @MagorTuga
    @MagorTuga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Managed to get a 5600 XT Sapphire Pulse BE for 330£ and I'm quite happy with it.

    • @lahcenebelbachir7929
      @lahcenebelbachir7929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congrats. Sane here, I got the Asrock PGD2. The card keeps getting better with time.

  • @montgomeryfitzpatrick473
    @montgomeryfitzpatrick473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My 5600xt had system wrecking crashes so returned for a 2060s to get by for a few months till 3000 came out. Looks like I'm spending $1500 unless i want a tiny incremental performance boost

    • @TheFirestriker101
      @TheFirestriker101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @xxprojessexx8838
      @xxprojessexx8838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You got a sht brand soo, probable a gygabyte yeahh, or maybe zotac

    • @xxprojessexx8838
      @xxprojessexx8838 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the MSI Gaming X is a fck beats the best of all the rx 5600 xt

    • @xxprojessexx8838
      @xxprojessexx8838 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or just you pick the wrong or worst drivers, the old ones are the best, I always see videos first about the new drivers

    • @Fishd1
      @Fishd1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Powercolor 5600xt has fits every few days. Some days it's stable, other days it will black screen as soon as the pc boots. I've tried different motherboards, AMD cpu, Intel CPU, different PSUs it seems to make zero difference. This card was to replace a Vega56 that was eventually RMA'd due to similar issues so I'm about done with Radeons. My rx470 was pretty stable, I should perhaps have stuck with that.

  • @megacide84
    @megacide84 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Purchased my Asrock Phantom Gaming triple fan RX 5600 XT for $280 during Newegg's Black November special.
    Just before GPU prices went through the roof.
    Well worth the money and good timing too. Last few times I checked. That same card is going between $800-$1000.

  • @karansingh1154
    @karansingh1154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    How's your back?

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Much better now thank you.

    • @karansingh1154
      @karansingh1154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Hardwareunboxed it's nice to hear that.

  • @critiqalerror
    @critiqalerror 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember the 5700 was made to compete the 2060 non super
    Now the lower 5600 XT is competitive even to Nvidias higher 2060 S.
    Amazing!

  • @dgodgo5250
    @dgodgo5250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice to see that the 5600 XT is now being compared to the 2060S considering it waa supposed to compete with the 1660 Ti.

    • @406mill
      @406mill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wasn't it the 2060 non super it was supposed to compete with? iirc the 2060 and 2070 were surpassed by the 5600xt and 5700xt, then the Supers were launched.
      edit: nvm, totally for got the 5700 non xt was a thing..lol

    • @dgodgo5250
      @dgodgo5250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@406mill From what I can remember, AMD updated the firmware of the 5600 XT during its launch which made its performance more in line with the 2060. It caused a mess early on in 2020 but the performance benefits eventually paid off.

  • @Ph42oN
    @Ph42oN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    RX 5600XT is gpu that looked kinda interesting for replacing RX 480. But seeing how easily my 4GB of vram gets full using DXVK, i have decided my next gpu must have at least 8GB of vram.

  • @highlanderknight
    @highlanderknight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    While I admittedly have my leanings towards favorite brands, people really need to mellow out, look at possible reasons for the comparisons (price = price etc) and pause to understand why the cards were picked to be compared to each other.

  • @poorsap1598
    @poorsap1598 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got my 5600xt after watching your 5600xt roundup on them. I got the 3 fan gigabyte model before the coof hit with rebate and a game for $220. It runs cool, quiet, and does everything I need it to do. Was such a steal for that price. Nowadays I feel bad for consumers. I had a side hustle building budget gaming pcs for people, optiplexs and some higher ones with r5 1600 af and 1660 supers/rx 5600xt. I've all but given up on trying to keep in market. Ill check and keep up with the news, but I can't see getting back into it for a while as it is.

  • @sonfoku73
    @sonfoku73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Stuff like this always makes me want to go AMD for one gen. The long term performance and consistency is just so awesome and tempting.

    • @BigHeadClan
      @BigHeadClan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never hurts to dip your toes into the alternative brand, granted awful time to swap to any gpu. Hah

  • @Argoon1981
    @Argoon1981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And people get mad for AMD giving up on trying to compete... we get the GPU market that we deserve.
    When you buy irrationally and only listen to marketing BS and exaggerated claims like "AMD drivers are bad and full of bugs!", "AMD lacks many next-gen features!", you get F.
    This is why, I don't believe Intel will ever compete either, not because I don't believe they can't do good GPU's, I know they can, is all a matter of money and Intel has way more money than AMD and Nvidia, is because if they do, I bet almost no one, will buy their GPU's, just look at what happens with AMD, no matter what they do they don't sell.
    At lest the console makers, are not ignorant and know how to rationally chose who GPU to buy for their consoles and on that market, I believe AMD will have Intel as a true competitor, imo Intel, is not really making DG2 for the discrete PC market, Nvidia has that totally on their hands, it will try to show the console makers they can be a viable choice as well going forward.

  • @jono8326
    @jono8326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just got say I am happy with my 2070S that I bought when it launched. The card is still very capable at 1440p. With the current price situation, I won't be upgrading until 2023.

    • @_shadow_1
      @_shadow_1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much did it cost at the time?

    • @BljesakiOluja
      @BljesakiOluja 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_shadow_1 A 100 more than 5700XT, so should be 500 dollars/euros. It is slightly better than my 5700XT but way more fkin expensive and thus not an option for me. But! It can reliably do ray tracing and DLSS, it is a big part of that price as well so... really depends if you want want want those options.

    • @dounin8876
      @dounin8876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2023 will be a good opportunity to finally upgrade it to a 3060 Ti!

    • @lmaoitsmee1812
      @lmaoitsmee1812 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dounin8876 lol

    • @Angel7black
      @Angel7black 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BljesakiOluja 100 more isnt really THAT much more when talking about a $400 card and a $500 dollar card. Meanwhile he got DLSS, raytracing, NVENC, Nvidia Broadcast/RTX Voice, and the peace of mind that he wasnt taking a gamble on a card plagued by driver instability like pretty much all RDNA 1 was known for.

  • @Dr_cHeNGo
    @Dr_cHeNGo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Owning an RX5700. Think the performance should be identical + 10% boost in most cases?

  • @anthonyreynoza8535
    @anthonyreynoza8535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had a XFX 5600xt for my first pc and it would have a lot of complete shutdowns to black or to Home Screen. I switched to the 2060 super and it never gives me problem. I got lucky and bought it used for very cheap. The ray tracing is honestly just whatever I never have it on because I don’t see much difference and it just takes up to much FPS.

  • @zjunk4877
    @zjunk4877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The entire 20 series was a stagnation in rasterized performance per dollar. That's what's so wrong with the 6600 and 6700xt but at least RTX gave you RT and DLSS. While these were essentially useless at launch DLSS has become a quite desirable feature that is difficult to put a value on. Makes reviews and fair comparisons impossible essentially.
    This will be an unpopular opinion with AMD fans but if an app supports FSR or DLSS they should be enabled at high quality for the simple fact that anyone in their right mind is going to use them when they can. I understand the idea to not give one side an unfair advantage but the argument could go both ways and say you're actually crippling one side in an attempt to do an apples to apples comparision. Isn't that essentially proof that you're not comparing apples to apples to begin with? DLSS has enough adoption at this point that's its not really an "unfair" advantage anymore. It's real performance in real games real people are playing and no longer niche. It holds value that should be shown.
    That's where you have a moral dilemma on parts like the 2060s. DLSS gains more value daily especially on these lower end parts. Even the most die hard AMD fan wishes they had RTX features. I'm stuck on a 1080ti and wish I had DLSS or at least more games with FSR.
    Revisits are good because the landscape changes constantly. When it launched the 5700xt couldn't touch my 1080ti. Now it often beats it because nvidia is horrible for optimizing old architectures. But this is also why it's no longer fair to skim over new features as they gain more support. If a driver update that gives better performance is allowed a feature should be too.

  • @unreal8542
    @unreal8542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How about the RX 5700 vs the GTX 2060 Super, since both have 8GB of ram.

    • @ShogoKawada123
      @ShogoKawada123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, the non-XT 5700 is what the 2060 Super was *actually* supposed to be competing with anyways... it'd be a far more sensible comparison than this one.

    • @UKKNGaming
      @UKKNGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShogoKawada123 it's not the 5700 XT is at a 2070 Super performance right now. he's done videos with both cards competing against each other and the RX 5700XT won fine wine at its finest.

  • @ansyarh5747
    @ansyarh5747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Believe.... 2 year-future rx 5600xt can beat 2060 super.. Like rx 580 now can fast than 1060

  • @gamingoptimized
    @gamingoptimized 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Navi 10 aged really well

    • @JerrySpringfield1
      @JerrySpringfield1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dampflokfreund I find my 5700xt works insanely good in dx12. To my understanding the only thing RDNA1 is missing is Raytracing and Variable Rate Shading. I don't think Raytracing is a big loss being that only now is it actually feasible and only the top 30 series and 6000 series can properly do it and we know how difficult those cards are to get. Also, I don't think VRS is used in many games (to my knowledge) and only acts as a fps bump. So I think RDNA1 will continue to age well. If I'm missing something please let me know as this is just what I know and haven't looked too far into this topic.

    • @JerrySpringfield1
      @JerrySpringfield1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dampflokfreund Yes I am aware of this. I was just asking if there was anything I was missing. I understand Raytracing will be the norm in a few years in which by then I will be in the market for a new GPU anyways. I am also aware of Metro doing a good job with raytracing and is currently the only example imo that does it well even on older cards, even though I still think 60 fps is the bare minimum and I would still turn it off. I also have access to a 2070 super and 2080 ti, and the raytracing currently just isn't impressive. So, in a few years when raytracing and newer tech will be implemented on a much larger scale, it will be time for a new GPU, but until then RDNA1 has and will age well.

    • @ichirokawuchi7603
      @ichirokawuchi7603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JerrySpringfield1 yes rtx on at 30-40 fps. The future is bright. Lol

    • @JerrySpringfield1
      @JerrySpringfield1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ichirokawuchi7603 Yea that's the point I was making. Currently raytracing just isn't it. It will take a few years to really iron it out

  • @dhan1001
    @dhan1001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant buy 5600XT (nowhere to be found) and 2060 is selling for $ 680 (IDR 9.800.000) what a sad time to buy a GPU :(

  • @CC-vv2ne
    @CC-vv2ne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Oh look a 700 Euro RX 5600 card vs 900 Euro RTX 2060 super card comparison video. fun times

    • @Art0r1a
      @Art0r1a 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where I live it's 950 EUR RX 5600 card vs a 850 EUR RTX 3060 Ti. (Couldn't find a single 2060 Super in stock)
      The regular 2060's are around 680 EUR. These prices are just insane.

    • @CC-vv2ne
      @CC-vv2ne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Art0r1a At this point its obvious that both AMD and NVIDIA are not making cards for sale on purpose, just giving all the chips to prebuilt makers and bitcoin miners that order in large bulk.
      While milking desperate gamers with bloated prices.

  • @revnto7k
    @revnto7k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had a 5600XT and a 5700XT.. Both great cards. I am now on a 6800XT.. Couldn't tell you when I last had an nVidia GPU.. I believe it was a Geforce 3.

  • @hquest
    @hquest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I found interesting the “rationale” some folks use for justification of their own purchases. To me, the performance per dollar is the key factor. One can play 10% better with 100% more cash investment, or can justify these 100% extra cost on RTX to make the performance 30% worse. I really don’t get it, but again, that’s how me and the one B.I.G. feels: “mo money, mo problems”.

    • @gonzalotome7875
      @gonzalotome7875 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      DLSS, extra VRAM and DX12 Ultimate support make it for a more future proof card and those are good reasons to justify the extra cost. Like in those 30 games they tested, atleast more than 10 actually have support for DLSS 2.x and like they said, it is actually a killer feature.

    • @ichirokawuchi7603
      @ichirokawuchi7603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gonzalotome7875 all those features are irrelevant if future games don't run at acceptable frames on that card. Don't be a nvidia fanboy.

  • @Lancia444
    @Lancia444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Going to call you out on this in terms of Aussie market (not trying to be a dick) - GTX 2060 Super for sale at 700 and in stock at Mwave, Scorptec, JW, and a few others. Second hand price is 600-700.
    RX 5600 XT second hand? Cheapest I've seen is 800 for a crappy one on Facebook marketplace, 900+ for decent ones in good condition on gumtree.
    If you're talking about USA market? maybe it's different there...

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We're taking about the year of release, sorry I thought that was obvious. Also yes MSRP is USD.

    • @Lancia444
      @Lancia444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hardwareunboxed Fair enough - it wasn't so obvious as RX 5600 XT hasn't had any 2021 releases that I know of (and title mentions 2021 RTX).

  • @feckboy6616
    @feckboy6616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    THIS IS THE VIDEO I WANT AS A 5600XT USER!

  • @timdraper4559
    @timdraper4559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would have loved to have seen them stick a Vega 56 in there as a comparison, they were a great deal a couple of years ago, got mine for £270, Sapphire Pulse, and I reckon it would have fared very well.

  • @dounin8876
    @dounin8876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes! Two GPUs I can't buy at a physical or local store, either, there's only the 2060 non-Super sometimes at the same price than a 3060 (i.e. $850+) and the 5600XT doesn't even exist.

  • @HELL_HOUND13
    @HELL_HOUND13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m glad I got my 5700xt even though it’s not related in this video but I’m happy with it

  • @atabg
    @atabg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing how AMD cards cought up with the upper level cards. In 2020 August, I was trying to decide between 2060 Super and 5700 XT because they were at the same price and comparable performance, nearly identical. Now 5700 XT is basically the same performance with the 2070 Super and 5600 XT is the same with 2060 Super. I'm glad I didnt bought the 2060 Super

    • @program7563
      @program7563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't know where you were in August 2020, but the 5700xt was beating the 2070s in late 2019... th-cam.com/video/ZmlRzGhdWdM/w-d-xo.html

    • @ZambonieDude
      @ZambonieDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 5700XT was always in competition with the 2070/S..
      It literally had the same performance as the VII for cheaper.
      No driver update is going to push you into a whole different performance tier class.

    • @atabg
      @atabg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZambonieDude I will not spend time to find you evidence but I remember clearly that it was not the case back then. You can watch hub's comparison videos from last year for 5700xt vs 2060s.

  • @ETophales
    @ETophales 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always good to see another revisit. I don't know anyone but Steve who's doing it, and I think it's valuable content for people who are looking at buying older cards, where performance (and price) might have changed since release. Steve, keep up the good work, and be careful not to strain your back again with all that benching.

  • @hamarta1006
    @hamarta1006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Based from this review, seems a lot of Nvidia's costumers getting scammed again (including myself). I will consider Radeon next time if i want to upgrade.

    • @ShogoKawada123
      @ShogoKawada123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      All this video does is point out that a cheaper card happens to be faster than a more expensive card in some cases. There was zero marketing that drew any comparison between them at any point. Most people considered the *regular* 2060 to be the 5600 XT's direct competitor.

  • @JacoB-wp4ws
    @JacoB-wp4ws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m glad I’ve got this rtx gpu before crisis

  • @legitphantom5921
    @legitphantom5921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Will you do a 30-45 game benchmark 3060 vs 6600 xt ?

  • @hungryyelly
    @hungryyelly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope your back is feeling better, cheers for the vid

  • @pilkoso
    @pilkoso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I paid $400 for a used 4GB rx 5500 xt and it was still a bargain for current prices, fk scalpers and miners

    • @alphapt9370
      @alphapt9370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oof. iirc, I paid around that for my 5700xt new. What a time to be alive.

    • @pilkoso
      @pilkoso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alphapt9370 in my country prices are always 25% above US, so it was like buying for $300 usd

    • @musek5048
      @musek5048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i'd rather pay only $400 than spend upwards of $1000 or more for something that could plummet in value at any time. obviously the deeper your pockets, the less you'll care lol

  • @peterconnell2496
    @peterconnell2496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know most say they dont, but IF games etc. ever start making more use of; improving system ram/resources/pcie interface... (& there is some evidence they are - MS FS 2020, consoles, advancing APUs eg.), then AMD's PCIE 4 is a nice fine wine option to have in reserve - free up 8 lanes yet get the same 16GB/s w/ a lesser 8 lanes, or double up to 32GB/s w/ the usual 16 lanes.
    as mainstream system's resource pools improve over time (ddr5 eg.), i can quite believe games will be enhanced by supplementing dedicated gpu cache w/ a tier of slower gpu cache drawn from the system.

  • @theigpugamer
    @theigpugamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Me who actually wanted to buy one of these and has been trying since last year
    I have lost hope pc gaming is a joke
    I never believed I will say this but I have auctioned my pc and will get a series x

    • @branchprediction9923
      @branchprediction9923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      IGPU > Consoles xD

    • @palerider8288
      @palerider8288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Poor you .. bye..

    • @theigpugamer
      @theigpugamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@branchprediction9923 playing with 52 rDNA 2 compute units at 4k 60 is better than 7 vega cu's at 1080p low

    • @sayanghosh123
      @sayanghosh123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same thoughts….if one ahs to invest this ass-ton of money for the hardware, I would rather buy a console…

    • @branchprediction9923
      @branchprediction9923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@theigpugamer ye bro i was just joking. Its a terrible state pc is in now.

  • @benjaminoechsli1941
    @benjaminoechsli1941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm running a Sapphire Pulse 5600 XT myself, so I'm eager to see it put through the Harvard On Box™ testing gauntlet now that AMD's "FineWine" has had time to age. 🍿

  • @johnaustin704
    @johnaustin704 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see you back at the channel, Steve!

  • @rudolphjonathanqueyquep2092
    @rudolphjonathanqueyquep2092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the Evoke 5700 XT did not get too warm on me I would have still had it, had to exchange for the 2060 Super. Luckily I was able to just add around 40$ and swap it for a 2070 super without any rgb. But would have loved the 5700 xt as it does have a raster advantage on my 2070 Super on most games.

    • @williammurphy1674
      @williammurphy1674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Rudolph Johnathan Queyquep .. A raster advantage favoring the 5700xt in most games? No. It doesn't .. Hardware Unboxed's own comparisons/reviews do not support that statement, neither does Digital Trends May 2021 review... www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-vs-nvidia-rtx-2070-super/

  • @BlueDemise
    @BlueDemise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imo this just shows how overpriced the Nvidia 20 series really was. Especially comparing to cards like the 1070 and 1080ti at their respective MSRP.

  • @henrikg1388
    @henrikg1388 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just as a fun anecdote. Back when I was a young kid, they taught me that 24 fps was the maximum that the eye could register. I think we got our first color TV when I was about five. I'm not that bloody old. I'm still a gamer. 😄

  • @gaijinkuri684
    @gaijinkuri684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video! Always love the thorough analysis.
    However, I often find these "price to performance" don't work for me where I am as the prices of cards being shown are either more or less the same or inverted (Nvidia cheaper than AMD).

  • @MarcelHoskins
    @MarcelHoskins 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ryzen 5 5600 & Radeon Rx 5600xt is 💜🤌. This combo is perfect for 1080p/165hrz monitor. 110-300fps depending on the game. in March of 2020 I was lucky to get a prebuilt at the beginning of lockdown.

  • @Lyander25
    @Lyander25 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an RX 5600 XT (Sapphire BE ver.) owner this was immeasurably useful. Botched launch aside the card offers good value for what many people got it for-- sure I can't max out CP2077 even at 1080p but the library of games it CAN handle at that res, or even at 1440p for that matter, ain't something to sneeze at. This more or less convinced me to wait a few more years at least before upgrading :P

  • @hafizshepard
    @hafizshepard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5600xt is fairly good in my opinion. In Apex Legends, I can get 144fps at competitive setting at 1080p reso pairing with both ryzen 5 3600xt. Other AAA games can get on that time surely can get 60fps and more at high setting. The price that time also nice. I bought at USD 328. Later I sold to my friend at even lower price and bought 5700xt so that my friend and I can enjoy Apex Legends at 144fps together.

  • @Ark.Rajang
    @Ark.Rajang 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought it for a year, worth for 1080p with 2 bonus games (MHW Iceborne and RE 3), never had any issue, will do that again, competition is good....

  • @BCSpikeFM
    @BCSpikeFM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think a better comparison would have been 2060S vs 5700.

  • @8830chris
    @8830chris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My XFX 5600XT thicc II has been proper solid. Hasn't at all let me down.

    • @musek5048
      @musek5048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i remember people complaining about those last year when they were on sale, i grabbed the sapphire pulse myself but the reviews i saw complained about black screens a super high temps. i used to have an xfx rx580 that ran like a beast at the time and never broke the 70C mark. plus, xfx cards just look really sleek and clean if you're not into the whole rgb thing.

    • @8830chris
      @8830chris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@musek5048 I was worried at first when I got mine last year regarding some of the reviews and complaint's. Temps have been a little warmer than some cards. But stable and nothing I've been worried about. No screen problems at all. Running mine paired with a 3600. I won't be upgrading soon, although I do really like the look of the XFX Merc series cards.

    • @musek5048
      @musek5048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@8830chris these cards should hold us by for a while, hopefully to the point where the market comes back to somewhere near where it used to be. imo the 5000 series is going to be the new 500 series in terms of longevity.

    • @RedEverything
      @RedEverything 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the XFX 5500 XT, runs really cool and quiet. It has a strange issue though, if I wake my PC from sleep mode and launch a game I get a black screen which is solved by unplugging the display port cable from the card and back in. I can't figure out if it's a card-specific issue, my display port cable, or my monitor.

    • @musek5048
      @musek5048 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RedEverything lol that's the exact same issue I have with my 5700xt. It happens every so often but it's not THAT annoying for me to complain about it. I've gone through several updates hoping it would get fixed but nothing I've tried has resolved it. I'm just glad it doesn't happen often enough to ruin my experience with it.

  • @gregvandy34
    @gregvandy34 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 5600xt was and is a winner. Pricing was good, and now you can pick one up for $100 which is a steal. Still a great GPU for 1080p gaming. Built my son a PC with a 1800x/x370 + 5600xt just now for Xmas. He's only 8 and the 5600xt can handle anything he plays, but really the 5600xt can play anything well at 1080p. The pulse 5600xt is small, runs cool and quiet and the strix 5600xt does the same but looks awesome doing it.

    • @greyfoxzero
      @greyfoxzero ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. I can't think of a card thats better on the used market for 100$. RTX2060's are sitting around $150 because "Ray Tracing" lol. People are sleeping on the 5600xt assuming $100 is where most markets are landing on used prices.