That's what makes it The Tragedy of Darth Vader. Once Qui-Gon died: Anakin was always going to fall to the Dark Side. The Jedi are never prepared to handle a Force-sensitive being like him.
If Qui-Gon had not died, and had become Anakin's master, it's highly unlikely Anakin would have turned to the Dark Side. And perhaps Qui-Gon wouldn't have died if, as a Padawan, he had allowed Dooku to train him to be a Form 2 master like himself.
I would also like to think peer pressure also took its toll on Anakin. Not just from the Jedi, but from the Republic as well. The pressure of being the chosen one in the eyes of the Jedi and the pressure of being the hero in the eyes of the republic definitely took its toll like Obi-Wan said in revenge of the Sith someone has to be the poster boy.
@@thalmoragent9344while this might be true to an extent he was being played between palp and the council. This probably impacted his need to be a hero more. Considering that obi wan mentioned Anakin was always upset leaving Palps office.
Remember Mail said in Clone Wars s7 during his duel with Ahsoka. “Skywalker has long been groomed for his role as the emperor’s new apprentice”. What angered me was the Jedi Council saw the signs but failed to acknowledge and be keepers of peace and servants of the force itself. Also Anakin needed to join the sith to learn the ways of the dark side. If he had never became Darth Vader he would’ve never been able to balance himself which we saw in Ahsoka series. Anakin always acted on what he thought was best during the clone wars.
Anakin should have stayed with his mom because his FIRST and ONLY force vision that DID NOT come true was him mentioning a jedi that came tatooine to free all of the slaves. That Jedi was him, and if you rewatch everything that happened in Episode 1, you would realize that everything was going downhill untill Qui-Gon basically let go and let God (Let the Force guide him) and he accidentally met Anakin. Qui-gon was basically winging everything until he saw that the force was guiding him to Anakin. If Qui-gon didnt cheat that dice game, I truly believe Anakin would have found a way to leave with them with his mother. I know the force would have not screwed them over if Qui-gon played the dice game fairly. Anakin leaving his mother behind was the spark that casted the shadow of Darth Vader.
This I have to agree with I’m pretty sure Qui-Gon could have help deactivate the bombshell in both if he played fairly which is I believe against the Jedi code.
Darth Vader was ALWAYS in Anakin He was a slave, didn't have a father, got separated from his mother and then after 9 years Anakin finds his mother dying inside his arms in a Tusken village. The Jedi Council didn't help either and Palpatine was already manipulating Anakin from the moment he arrived on Naboo. The Clone Wars only accelerated transitioning to Vader a bit but most of the damage was already done
Maybe. But the clone wars fed what was already there. A desire to be stronger in part for his ego the other to protect those he loves. Palpatine made sure Anakin was on the front lines of every major engagement to hasten his development and feed the desire for more power. Not only that Anakin realized the way the jedi protected people was not always the best way. For instance Anakin forced Poggle to talk to remove the worms. The jedi way wasn't working. He wanted to save Asohka and Barriss and was willing to do what the jedi forbade.
imagine being a gifted child, send in a army cadets school, then be send in mission, loose most of your friends, get PTSD, and then you are put as Minister of defense Then the Emperor wonder why it backfired
Poor Anakin. He had no choice. So may problems,obstacles,tragedies. He saw so many of his friends leave,killed and loose their mind during the war. He had no reasons to feel ashamed about anything. He was hero of the galaxy,of the people. Anakin loved the battle,that's not bad. Anakin is not a failure at any way. He's a hero. May the Force be with you too😊
No one forbade him from talking about her at all. It was *his* choice alone not to bring up what happened. The only reason Obi-Wan even knew about Shmi's death was because Padmé told him while Anakin was healing from his duel with Dooku.
War changes everyone. It allowed Anakin to delve deep into his passions in a variety of ways, and that alone was a constant struggle to balance for him as a Jedi.
The best video you've ever done. Huge lesson there on loss and letting go. For example below. I live in Britain, my fiance is American, and we're in the process of her immigrating to the UK to get married next year. Part of the process is she had to fly back to the USA after staying here in the UK for six months. Watching her go up the escalator in Cardiff city airport, Wales, UK at 5.am in the morning, to get her plane 3 week's ago, knowing there's a possibility that I'll never see her again if the immigration application fails, was extremely painful. After two weeks I had grieved that possibility and let go of the fear. By telling myself "No matter what happens we will both be ok, come what may good or bad." As painful as it was, I was willing to let her go if it came to that. Thankfully it's turning out ok. So there's a huge lesson there otn Anakins fear, it's understandable. Like you said anakin was told to let go and train himself of all that he feared to lose, but he wasn't taught how to train himself to let go. Huge error of Yoda that was. The teaching is simple, but hard in it's application, but it's possible, most of us have been through it at some point in our lives. Great video. Thanks.
Yes I can totally see how the clone wars help to throw Anakin in to darkness. He seems to take too much on himself. I think the council did have a big hand in this fall for not trying to even understand who he was and the best way to train him.
This breakdown showcased how much of the Mind of a traumatized child remained in Anakin. A helluva lot of Emotions. Neither the Light not the Dark Side resided greatly in him before Mustafar. Folks talk about a Full-Power Anakin. That couldn't have happened given his Mindset.
Anakin's turn to the dark side began in Attack of the Clones, if people were paying attention, his turned in Revenge of the Sith was handled brilliantly! The greatest movie out of the entire Saga episodes 1 through 6. As perfect as a movie can get. Great video though. The Clone Wars is my all-time favorite TV show. But I look at it as unnecessary but gladly welcomed exposition. But all you need to really know is within the Saga itself. Episodes 1 through 6 if you pay attention to everything that's going on not just verbally but visually everything is explained.
"Pride stems from insecurity " ... No, it doesn't, this is a fundamental misunderstanding of self-worth. If self-respect. Were it not for the self-refection of our own worth amongst others, how could we have ever gained the ideas of human dignity? Or in a real sense, the laws of human equality?
The future fall can be summed up by "Anakin's pride was a manifestation of his shame in having all that power was powerless to save those whom he loved." He felt he was a failure because he believed the world was falling apart because he failed to save it.
I would like a series or a movie about what happened to Anakin between Episodes 1 & 2, as a Padawan. It would be great to see if he was very optimistic and lighthearted or if the darkness already had a foothold early on. Either would add some sadness and meaning to his story
I know you're probably not interested in media outside of the films and shows, but just in case such a show doesn't come anytime soon, there're actually quite a few stories set in that specific time gap you can check out. In the current Disney Canon, there's the comic one-shot "Age Of Republic: Obi-Wan Kenobi #1" and the miniseries "Obi-Wan & Anakin", both set in the first 3 years of their time together as Master and Padawan. An in the original canon now known as Legends, there's the Jedi Quest series of novels, which take place in Anakin's teen years and explore his relationships with other fellow Padawans as well as with Obi-Wan. But despite taking place in different continuities, they don't contradict each other in significant ways.
@@CouncilCape897 that's amazing, thank you! I do love the cartoons, live actions shows and movies. I watch them all but I have yet to delve into the comics or books. I will definitely pick them up!
I feel like in his early days as a padawan, Anakin was more lighthearted and optimistic as his boyhood self on Tatooine from Phantom Menace. I think he gradually grew darker like the slow shift of a light dimmer from a completely lit up room to a completely dark one throughout his time as a Jedi, and especially throughout the duration of the Clone Wars.
@@johnwalker1058 While you are right that Anakin gradually became a darker person as he grew older, he never actually was that lighthearted and optimistic to begin with, according to the novels and comics. Despite him and Obi-Wan quickly forming a very strong bond from the start, Obi-Wan’s insecurities about his worth and capabilities as Anakin's teacher due to his inexperience constanly created distance between. So much so that Obi-Wan couldn't open up to Anakin as much as both would've wanted out of fear of saying the wrong thing. Which, for a time, made Anakin feel like a burden Obi-Wan was stuck with out of obligation to honor his promise to Qui-Gon, and drove him to repeatedly test the limits of their relationship to reassure himself that Obi-Wan genuinely cared about him even at his worst. Additionally, Anakin wasn't able to make a single friend in the entire Jedi Order during the first 4 years of his training. Partly because he couldn't relate to almost anyone. Since most Jedi were enrolled in the Order from infancy, they grew up with little exposure to other lifestyles outside of the Jedi way. And their lack of family attachments made it difficult for them to empathize with Anakin when their classes touched on delicate subjects like slavery. And partly because Anakin's uncontrolled arrogance and competitiveness due to his being the Chosen One helping him easily surpass most of his peers' progress left a bad impression on many. And so, because he couldn't make friends initially, and didn't feel challenged by the lessons he was given due to the Council refusing to give him special treatment to speed up his training, Anakin spent most of his free time either alone in his room tinkering with machines, or sneaking out of the Jedi Temple at night to participate in illegal races in the shady parts of Coruscant. With that said, he was eventually able to make friends in his teen years.
With Palpatine manipulating him in those movies too. That’d be cool to see. It’d be a cool movie to see Plaguies finding Palpatine & training him. Their exploits & getting the grand plan to where it was about to come through fruition
Now we're talking. This is something I've believed for some time. War is ugly. Ugly for all. Even the elite of the elite. ... There's heavy tolls & prices paid. You have to go at the drop of a hat. Regardless of anything. Even if you're loved ones are dieing or just passed. Anyhow, the affects of war & a combination of Kenobi sensing Anakin's attachment level on Geonosis with Padme & Anakin's conversation in Revenge Of The Sith with Yoda are all the biggest keys to Anakin's turn. If Kenobi told Yoda what he sensed on Geonosis that conversation in Sith presumably would have went way differently. ... Stands to reason Yoda would have known just how serious that situation was with Anakin's dreams & the over all shape he was truly in. Tis why Kenobi thought of Geonosis first after seeing the Temple video & probably why Yoda didn't want to hear about it. ... What's done was done & can only go with what's left. ... But nevertheless, those first instincts that crash on down usually reveal the truth of it all. When push comes to shove it's those affects of war that caused Kenobi & the councils blindness. Tis exactly why the characters involved didn't make the right decisions in the moment. ... They were all feeling the affects. Not just Anakin.
Yes not allowing Jedi to have attachments was so foolish. As they simply did not know how to handle there emotions. Anikan may never have turned if he could have talked to Obi Won etc about his wife and his feelings
I feel like Anakin liked lightsaber dueling and physical applications of the force specifically because it gave him direct results. Being told your the chosen one and you'd bring peace and balance to the force, only for the galaxy to go to war and tear itself apart, being thrown to the front lines and all the trauma of being a soldier, being an outcast from the only people even kind of like you, no one guiding you through the feelings you're told you shouldn't be feeling but absolutely have, hypocrisy and unreasonable rules being forced on you and no one giving you any sort of satisfying answer, etc, etc. Put into this context, no wonder Anakin reveled in violence and fell to the Dark side. It must've been maddening to have to deal with all the pressures put on him and combat was 100% his greatest outlet for all his frustrations.
Just imagine if Anakin Skywalker didn't burn or lose any of his limbs and reached his full potential in the force he would be a God in human form ⚡️⚡️⚡️💪💪
Anakin already committed genocide on people long before he was a jedi or in any war. He murdered men, women, and CHILDREN “like animals.” He was deep in darkness and never a good man. So many forget that.
Anakin like mace has a lot of internal darkness the deference was that anakin rarely if ever acknowledged it he couldn’t face the mirror this combined with his fear of loss which he has to face constantly throughout the clone wars but never confronted is what ultimately caused his fall to the darkness. All palpatine do was help it along by validating his darker feelings.and anakin bottled up the wounds festered
That explains how anakin was always darth vader. Because his whole jedi career was built from war and the fear of loss just planted a seed in him to drive him into darkness
Basically wars can traumatize a person, imagine seeing thousands of people dying everyday; soldiers, civilians, and other Jedi mates. That would make anyone go crazy, probably he even lost his feelings by the end of the war.
Or or or...🗣HE WAS DESTINED TO BE VADER! Destroy both the sith and corrupted jedi. An emotionally unstable malleable boy with great power. He lost his mother and wanted power to save his wife.
Anakin never fell. He HAD to become Vader to be the balanced one. He lived the first half of his life in the light and the second in the dark. Only by fully immersing himself in both could he learn how to balance both. Even Reven couldn’t fully immerse in both…hence why anakin was born from the force to be the chosen one.
Anakin Skywalker just one of the respect he felt he deserved. He carried them through the clone wars the Jedi council were jealous of Anakin becoming more powerful than any of them
Hey the stupendous wave and Star Wars fans a question Anakin Skywalker put up, reached his full potential. As the prophesies chosen one. to bring balance to the force with or without his right arm, he lost to count Dooku and the age he was found because that doesn’t matter. age or physical injuries don’t matter is the choices, and decisions you make, right
I honestly think without the clone wars anakin would have turn to the dark side quicker after the events of attack of the clones, he was on the pace to falling after the slaughter of the sand people and his attachment with padame. The clone wars was a way for anakin to show why he the chosen one, the peace keeper life wasn’t for anakin as he struggled with empathy. The clone wars to anakin was an excuses not to hold back. Without the war his conflict would be within on wanting padame and wanting to be “strongest Jedi ever” and have padame at the same time. That ego was hidden during the clone wars, that secret attachment was hidden due to the war. Without the clone wars anakin would of definitely fallen to the dark side
Honestly when it comes to that time Obi-Wan faked his own assassination, it was so stupid that Obi-Wan didn't have Anakin at least told that he was alive immediately afterwards (it was actually Obi-Wan's idea, I just watched that episode last night). Yeah I get not telling him before it happened, or while they were still in the street so his reaction seemed genuine, but there was no reason not to tell Anakin as soon as they were out of the street. Anakin probably would've been a lot less scarred by the experience if he hadn't been left to stew in his own hate for weeks. Hell I'm not sure it was even necessary to not tell him beforehand, he's shown himself to be a decent actor at times so he probably could've played his role really well. Ahsoka, maybe not, but then you tell HER after they're out of the street. The Jedi's lack of understanding of complex emotion bites them in the ass, again.
I personally think that Anikin thrived in chaos. if you put in in Dungeons and Dragons alignment terms then as a Jedi Anikin was Chaotic Good and as a Sith Darth Vader is Chaotic Evil.
Anakin had Vader in him the whole time. The jedi do deserve some blame for anakin's fall but not all of it as his dark path was present before the events that lead all of them to him. Events played out as the Force wanted it to play out.
I actually hope Ahsoka or future projects will show Anakin becoming the Father of the Mortis gods. Meaning he HAD to become Darth Vader to walk in both the light and dark. Fate required his suffering and the suffering of those he hurt, so he could understand how to become the middle.
Poor child murdering Anakin... The problem with Anakin was he became the chosen one at age 9 and was raised that way without allowing to find himself. Luke did not suffer the same fate because the Jedi council was not allowed to treat him like a robot.
Anakin destroyed Anakin, no need to make excuses or put a pretty little bow on a character that made bad life choices. The dark side is a choice, in fantasy and the real world.
The irony here is the Clone Wars tv show is his the only thing that gave him redeeming qualities. Anakin was straight trash in the movies, no control over his emotions at all.
It's crazy to think that pretty much everything in star wars just led Anakin to downfall form the very beginning.
Starting with the force
Yes. The ultimate tragic figure. No options for him.
Yeah it's almost like it was written that way.
WHAT!!!!!!@@jubeidamasta
That's what makes it The Tragedy of Darth Vader. Once Qui-Gon died: Anakin was always going to fall to the Dark Side. The Jedi are never prepared to handle a Force-sensitive being like him.
If Qui-Gon had not died, and had become Anakin's master, it's highly unlikely Anakin would have turned to the Dark Side. And perhaps Qui-Gon wouldn't have died if, as a Padawan, he had allowed Dooku to train him to be a Form 2 master like himself.
I was thinking Anakin will still use Form V but still fought as Vader if Dooku taught him
The Clone Wars helped accelerate Anakin towards the Dark Side of the Force. Something Palpatine was likely aware of when he started it. Great video.
I would also like to think peer pressure also took its toll on Anakin. Not just from the Jedi, but from the Republic as well. The pressure of being the chosen one in the eyes of the Jedi and the pressure of being the hero in the eyes of the republic definitely took its toll like Obi-Wan said in revenge of the Sith someone has to be the poster boy.
Well, he loved being the "Hero with No Fear" to the Republic
@@thalmoragent9344while this might be true to an extent he was being played between palp and the council. This probably impacted his need to be a hero more. Considering that obi wan mentioned Anakin was always upset leaving Palps office.
@@thalmoragent9344He probably used it to replace the approval he didnt get from the Jedi.
Remember Mail said in Clone Wars s7 during his duel with Ahsoka. “Skywalker has long been groomed for his role as the emperor’s new apprentice”. What angered me was the Jedi Council saw the signs but failed to acknowledge and be keepers of peace and servants of the force itself.
Also Anakin needed to join the sith to learn the ways of the dark side. If he had never became Darth Vader he would’ve never been able to balance himself which we saw in Ahsoka series. Anakin always acted on what he thought was best during the clone wars.
Anakin should have stayed with his mom because his FIRST and ONLY force vision that DID NOT come true was him mentioning a jedi that came tatooine to free all of the slaves. That Jedi was him, and if you rewatch everything that happened in Episode 1, you would realize that everything was going downhill untill Qui-Gon basically let go and let God (Let the Force guide him) and he accidentally met Anakin. Qui-gon was basically winging everything until he saw that the force was guiding him to Anakin. If Qui-gon didnt cheat that dice game, I truly believe Anakin would have found a way to leave with them with his mother. I know the force would have not screwed them over if Qui-gon played the dice game fairly. Anakin leaving his mother behind was the spark that casted the shadow of Darth Vader.
This I have to agree with I’m pretty sure Qui-Gon could have help deactivate the bombshell in both if he played fairly which is I believe against the Jedi code.
Think Obi-Wan was the only Jedi that seriously knew Anakin in more ways than one, but they went about things differently
obi wan was a brother when anakin needed a father
@@trin873 true, but even brothers can act like fathers. Although not accurate it's like when Tobey and Andrew consuled Tom
@@carlosgarza400 referring to the 3 Spider-Man actors, I see!!!
Darth Vader was ALWAYS in Anakin
He was a slave, didn't have a father, got separated from his mother and then after 9 years Anakin finds his mother dying inside his arms in a Tusken village. The Jedi Council didn't help either and Palpatine was already manipulating Anakin from the moment he arrived on Naboo. The Clone Wars only accelerated transitioning to Vader a bit but most of the damage was already done
Maybe. But the clone wars fed what was already there. A desire to be stronger in part for his ego the other to protect those he loves. Palpatine made sure Anakin was on the front lines of every major engagement to hasten his development and feed the desire for more power. Not only that Anakin realized the way the jedi protected people was not always the best way. For instance Anakin forced Poggle to talk to remove the worms. The jedi way wasn't working. He wanted to save Asohka and Barriss and was willing to do what the jedi forbade.
Pretty much.
The Jedi literally found the Chosen One and served Anakin to the Sith Lord on a platter
imagine being a gifted child, send in a army cadets school, then be send in mission, loose most of your friends, get PTSD, and then you are put as Minister of defense
Then the Emperor wonder why it backfired
Poor Anakin. He had no choice. So may problems,obstacles,tragedies. He saw so many of his friends leave,killed and loose their mind during the war. He had no reasons to feel ashamed about anything. He was hero of the galaxy,of the people. Anakin loved the battle,that's not bad. Anakin is not a failure at any way. He's a hero. May the Force be with you too😊
Yeah Poor child murdering Anakin... We should talk about how the original trilogy was murdered by George.
@@michaelcarson8375 it was his destiny. It all needed to happen.No one could stop it
@@michaelcarson8375 how it was murdered?
Also not allowing Anikan to talk about his mother , even after she died in his arms would mess anyone up !
No one forbade him from talking about her at all. It was *his* choice alone not to bring up what happened. The only reason Obi-Wan even knew about Shmi's death was because Padmé told him while Anakin was healing from his duel with Dooku.
War changes everyone. It allowed Anakin to delve deep into his passions in a variety of ways, and that alone was a constant struggle to balance for him as a Jedi.
The best video you've ever done.
Huge lesson there on loss and letting go.
For example below.
I live in Britain, my fiance is American, and we're in the process of her immigrating to the UK to get married next year. Part of the process is she had to fly back to the USA after staying here in the UK for six months.
Watching her go up the escalator in Cardiff city airport, Wales, UK at 5.am in the morning, to get her plane 3 week's ago, knowing there's a possibility that I'll never see her again if the immigration application fails, was extremely painful.
After two weeks I had grieved that possibility and let go of the fear. By telling myself
"No matter what happens we will both be ok, come what may good or bad."
As painful as it was, I was willing to let her go if it came to that. Thankfully it's turning out ok.
So there's a huge lesson there otn Anakins fear, it's understandable.
Like you said anakin was told to let go and train himself of all that he feared to lose, but he wasn't taught how to train himself to let go. Huge error of Yoda that was. The teaching is simple, but hard in it's application, but it's possible, most of us have been through it at some point in our lives.
Great video.
Thanks.
“What?! He was going to blow up the ship” Right there you knew he wasn’t fucking around.
It's basically Darth Sidious capitalizing on Jedi council's being a prick lol
Amazing analysis 👏
Yes I can totally see how the clone wars help to throw Anakin in to darkness. He seems to take too much on himself. I think the council did have a big hand in this fall for not trying to even understand who he was and the best way to train him.
This breakdown showcased how much of the Mind of a traumatized child remained in Anakin. A helluva lot of Emotions. Neither the Light not the Dark Side resided greatly in him before Mustafar. Folks talk about a Full-Power Anakin. That couldn't have happened given his Mindset.
Anakin's turn to the dark side began in Attack of the Clones, if people were paying attention, his turned in Revenge of the Sith was handled brilliantly! The greatest movie out of the entire Saga episodes 1 through 6. As perfect as a movie can get. Great video though. The Clone Wars is my all-time favorite TV show. But I look at it as unnecessary but gladly welcomed exposition. But all you need to really know is within the Saga itself. Episodes 1 through 6 if you pay attention to everything that's going on not just verbally but visually everything is explained.
It's sad that everything in his life led to him becoming everything he hated, only to be redeemed by his own son in the end.
"The fear of loss, is a path to the Darkside".
- Master Yoda
Anakin reminds of Naruto in the aspect that he will do anything to help his friends and won't accept any losses
"Pride stems from insecurity " ... No, it doesn't, this is a fundamental misunderstanding of self-worth. If self-respect. Were it not for the self-refection of our own worth amongst others, how could we have ever gained the ideas of human dignity? Or in a real sense, the laws of human equality?
The future fall can be summed up by "Anakin's pride was a manifestation of his shame in having all that power was powerless to save those whom he loved." He felt he was a failure because he believed the world was falling apart because he failed to save it.
I would like a series or a movie about what happened to Anakin between Episodes 1 & 2, as a Padawan. It would be great to see if he was very optimistic and lighthearted or if the darkness already had a foothold early on. Either would add some sadness and meaning to his story
I know you're probably not interested in media outside of the films and shows, but just in case such a show doesn't come anytime soon, there're actually quite a few stories set in that specific time gap you can check out.
In the current Disney Canon, there's the comic one-shot "Age Of Republic: Obi-Wan Kenobi #1" and the miniseries "Obi-Wan & Anakin", both set in the first 3 years of their time together as Master and Padawan.
An in the original canon now known as Legends, there's the Jedi Quest series of novels, which take place in Anakin's teen years and explore his relationships with other fellow Padawans as well as with Obi-Wan.
But despite taking place in different continuities, they don't contradict each other in significant ways.
@@CouncilCape897 that's amazing, thank you! I do love the cartoons, live actions shows and movies. I watch them all but I have yet to delve into the comics or books. I will definitely pick them up!
I feel like in his early days as a padawan, Anakin was more lighthearted and optimistic as his boyhood self on Tatooine from Phantom Menace. I think he gradually grew darker like the slow shift of a light dimmer from a completely lit up room to a completely dark one throughout his time as a Jedi, and especially throughout the duration of the Clone Wars.
@@johnwalker1058 While you are right that Anakin gradually became a darker person as he grew older, he never actually was that lighthearted and optimistic to begin with, according to the novels and comics.
Despite him and Obi-Wan quickly forming a very strong bond from the start, Obi-Wan’s insecurities about his worth and capabilities as Anakin's teacher due to his inexperience constanly created distance between. So much so that Obi-Wan couldn't open up to Anakin as much as both would've wanted out of fear of saying the wrong thing. Which, for a time, made Anakin feel like a burden Obi-Wan was stuck with out of obligation to honor his promise to Qui-Gon, and drove him to repeatedly test the limits of their relationship to reassure himself that Obi-Wan genuinely cared about him even at his worst.
Additionally, Anakin wasn't able to make a single friend in the entire Jedi Order during the first 4 years of his training.
Partly because he couldn't relate to almost anyone. Since most Jedi were enrolled in the Order from infancy, they grew up with little exposure to other lifestyles outside of the Jedi way. And their lack of family attachments made it difficult for them to empathize with Anakin when their classes touched on delicate subjects like slavery.
And partly because Anakin's uncontrolled arrogance and competitiveness due to his being the Chosen One helping him easily surpass most of his peers' progress left a bad impression on many.
And so, because he couldn't make friends initially, and didn't feel challenged by the lessons he was given due to the Council refusing to give him special treatment to speed up his training, Anakin spent most of his free time either alone in his room tinkering with machines, or sneaking out of the Jedi Temple at night to participate in illegal races in the shady parts of Coruscant.
With that said, he was eventually able to make friends in his teen years.
With Palpatine manipulating him in those movies too. That’d be cool to see. It’d be a cool movie to see Plaguies finding Palpatine & training him. Their exploits & getting the grand plan to where it was about to come through fruition
Comprehensive explanation. Spot on.
Now we're talking. This is something I've believed for some time. War is ugly. Ugly for all. Even the elite of the elite. ... There's heavy tolls & prices paid. You have to go at the drop of a hat. Regardless of anything. Even if you're loved ones are dieing or just passed.
Anyhow, the affects of war & a combination of Kenobi sensing Anakin's attachment level on Geonosis with Padme & Anakin's conversation in Revenge Of The Sith with Yoda are all the biggest keys to Anakin's turn.
If Kenobi told Yoda what he sensed on Geonosis that conversation in Sith presumably would have went way differently. ... Stands to reason Yoda would have known just how serious that situation was with Anakin's dreams & the over all shape he was truly in.
Tis why Kenobi thought of Geonosis first after seeing the Temple video & probably why Yoda didn't want to hear about it. ... What's done was done & can only go with what's left. ... But nevertheless, those first instincts that crash on down usually reveal the truth of it all.
When push comes to shove it's those affects of war that caused Kenobi & the councils blindness. Tis exactly why the characters involved didn't make the right decisions in the moment. ... They were all feeling the affects. Not just Anakin.
Yes not allowing Jedi to have attachments was so foolish. As they simply did not know how to handle there emotions. Anikan may never have turned if he could have talked to Obi Won etc about his wife and his feelings
Great video, thanks!
I feel like Anakin liked lightsaber dueling and physical applications of the force specifically because it gave him direct results.
Being told your the chosen one and you'd bring peace and balance to the force, only for the galaxy to go to war and tear itself apart, being thrown to the front lines and all the trauma of being a soldier, being an outcast from the only people even kind of like you, no one guiding you through the feelings you're told you shouldn't be feeling but absolutely have, hypocrisy and unreasonable rules being forced on you and no one giving you any sort of satisfying answer, etc, etc.
Put into this context, no wonder Anakin reveled in violence and fell to the Dark side. It must've been maddening to have to deal with all the pressures put on him and combat was 100% his greatest outlet for all his frustrations.
War was therapy for Anakin basically 😆🔥
Just imagine if Anakin Skywalker didn't burn or lose any of his limbs and reached his full potential in the force he would be a God in human form ⚡️⚡️⚡️💪💪
Anakin already committed genocide on people long before he was a jedi or in any war. He murdered men, women, and CHILDREN “like animals.” He was deep in darkness and never a good man. So many forget that.
War changes everyone.
Sheesh! I always knew Anakin had it rough, but this definitely gave me a different perspective
Great video and ideas
Anakin like mace has a lot of internal darkness the deference was that anakin rarely if ever acknowledged it he couldn’t face the mirror this combined with his fear of loss which he has to face constantly throughout the clone wars but never confronted is what ultimately caused his fall to the darkness. All palpatine do was help it along by validating his darker feelings.and anakin bottled up the wounds festered
That explains how anakin was always darth vader. Because his whole jedi career was built from war and the fear of loss just planted a seed in him to drive him into darkness
Basically wars can traumatize a person, imagine seeing thousands of people dying everyday; soldiers, civilians, and other Jedi mates. That would make anyone go crazy, probably he even lost his feelings by the end of the war.
Or or or...🗣HE WAS DESTINED TO BE VADER! Destroy both the sith and corrupted jedi. An emotionally unstable malleable boy with great power. He lost his mother and wanted power to save his wife.
Anakin never fell. He HAD to become Vader to be the balanced one. He lived the first half of his life in the light and the second in the dark. Only by fully immersing himself in both could he learn how to balance both. Even Reven couldn’t fully immerse in both…hence why anakin was born from the force to be the chosen one.
Anytime Anakin did something he put his all into it he never half assed anything that’s why he was so effective in the clone wars
Anakin Skywalker just one of the respect he felt he deserved. He carried them through the clone wars the Jedi council were jealous of Anakin becoming more powerful than any of them
Just want to correct you on one thing it was obiwan that decided to hide his fake death from anican which is worse
Also I believe it was Obi Wan who decided Anakin shouldn't be told of the plan which hurt Anakin even more
Hey the stupendous wave and Star Wars fans a question Anakin Skywalker put up, reached his full potential. As the prophesies chosen one. to bring balance to the force with or without his right arm, he lost to count Dooku and the age he was found because that doesn’t matter. age or physical injuries don’t matter is the choices, and decisions you make, right
I honestly think without the clone wars anakin would have turn to the dark side quicker after the events of attack of the clones, he was on the pace to falling after the slaughter of the sand people and his attachment with padame. The clone wars was a way for anakin to show why he the chosen one, the peace keeper life wasn’t for anakin as he struggled with empathy. The clone wars to anakin was an excuses not to hold back. Without the war his conflict would be within on wanting padame and wanting to be “strongest Jedi ever” and have padame at the same time. That ego was hidden during the clone wars, that secret attachment was hidden due to the war. Without the clone wars anakin would of definitely fallen to the dark side
Honestly when it comes to that time Obi-Wan faked his own assassination, it was so stupid that Obi-Wan didn't have Anakin at least told that he was alive immediately afterwards (it was actually Obi-Wan's idea, I just watched that episode last night). Yeah I get not telling him before it happened, or while they were still in the street so his reaction seemed genuine, but there was no reason not to tell Anakin as soon as they were out of the street. Anakin probably would've been a lot less scarred by the experience if he hadn't been left to stew in his own hate for weeks.
Hell I'm not sure it was even necessary to not tell him beforehand, he's shown himself to be a decent actor at times so he probably could've played his role really well. Ahsoka, maybe not, but then you tell HER after they're out of the street.
The Jedi's lack of understanding of complex emotion bites them in the ass, again.
Is jabin… like robin!
I’m watching clone wars again. And I’m watching a Ventress episode. And I just thought of it. Ventress is a “Night Sithter”. Hahaha!!!!
I personally think that Anikin thrived in chaos. if you put in in Dungeons and Dragons alignment terms then as a Jedi Anikin was Chaotic Good and as a Sith Darth Vader is Chaotic Evil.
Anakin had Vader in him the whole time. The jedi do deserve some blame for anakin's fall but not all of it as his dark path was present before the events that lead all of them to him. Events played out as the Force wanted it to play out.
I actually hope Ahsoka or future projects will show Anakin becoming the Father of the Mortis gods. Meaning he HAD to become Darth Vader to walk in both the light and dark. Fate required his suffering and the suffering of those he hurt, so he could understand how to become the middle.
Day 276 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
Anakin should have Jolee Bindo as a master
Poor child murdering Anakin... The problem with Anakin was he became the chosen one at age 9 and was raised that way without allowing to find himself. Luke did not suffer the same fate because the Jedi council was not allowed to treat him like a robot.
What happens if Anakin retires from the jedi after the clone wars?
Am I the only one who feels so bad for Anakin Skywalker? I’m referring to his emotional turmoil.
For me , it's more like the jedi council and darth sidious create darth vader
they did try with Anakin with their training with him
In short, Anakin has PTSD and with bad childhood
But, redemption
Cool
How Disney destroyed Starwars and wiped its ass on us fan..
Agreed
Anakin destroyed Anakin, no need to make excuses or put a pretty little bow on a character that made bad life choices. The dark side is a choice, in fantasy and the real world.
That is a very myopic view of the Force, and motivations
The irony here is the Clone Wars tv show is his the only thing that gave him redeeming qualities. Anakin was straight trash in the movies, no control over his emotions at all.
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Third .. neat
The crazy thing is, if Padme had been an ugly and creepy hag Vader may have never happened, its truly a story of how a simp destroyed the universe.
One of the first comments
And now at least Anakin is free in the Force and can now assume his responsibility in World between worlds as a keeper of balance. 🙂🤍🖤