One thing you forgot to mention is the latency difference which is arguably the most important thing for gamers playing first person shooters. The Cable in your test had over 3x higher latency at 20ms vs Fiber at 6ms.
mbn do you have it now and can you tell a difference? they have it in 77% of my zip code area but i have yet to get it kinda sad cse ive been waiting about 4 years since i heard abt it just wish i knew how much longer it will take
We recently got fiber in the neighborhood and I switched for several reasons: 1. Any time there was a storm the cable co went down. Fiber never goes down. 2. The cable would crap out almost any time for no apparent reason, 3. I have a great fiber price and it is fixed. The cable guys kept sneaking it up hoping you wouldnt notice. 4. Service. The cable co had terrible tech and phone service. They run the company in very old school way. 5. Even though cable had buried fiber it still had to come into the house via copper coax. 6. Cable relied on selling house phone and cable tv content and even security to up their revenue and it also kept sneaking up. The “packages” were infuriating. Fiber does one thing; deliver very fast and reliable internet connection. What you want in content and services is up to you to select and manage. Now a second fiber company is laying fiber as I write. Options and competition is always good. The old cable company is dying as their business model is hopelessly out of date.
*"I have a great fiber price and it is fixed. The cable guys kept sneaking it up hoping you wouldn't notice."* Evidently, you haven't experienced Bell Fibe at its best. With them, they guarantee a fixed price but to keep things legal, they slowly reduce the discount rate so they can charge more over time. This is in Canada by the way.
@@HeavyMetalSonicRMunless lightning hits your line and fries it. I had this happen twice with att fiber. First time it fried the line, second time it fried the line, fiber box and router.
cable uses neighborhood bandwidth sharing wich means neighbors downloading and streaming a lot can affect a hole block almost then if your like him with extra tv service it can even slow it down in your house even more and be more incosistant when tv is on because now that line is split even more.
@@Babbagesany consumer connection is gunna have share bandwidth at the node this applies to fiber not just cable. It’s also not something to particularly worry about since the engineers that make the big bucks account for all of this before they build out to make your neighborhood serviceable. It was always a mute point and the only time it ever becomes a issue is with very high density housing so like apartment complexes
I was paying $50 for 300/30 cable. Three years later I was paying $80 for 300/30. Fiber came to my town and I got 500/500 for $40, locked in price for life. Not a hard decision at all
Congrats on that price and speeds. Here my 300/300 cost 70$ (Norway, rural on an island). It is not too bad, but I am locked with that single ISP for now. Later I assume they will have to open for competing offers on the same fiber, and then lower price or higher speeds will be available for sure.
We recently moved to fiber. We did so because the provider in our area has a set price and it doesn't change when a so-called promotion lapses. The cost changes when it changes for everyone. They also will not throttle our speed like the cable ISP has been doing. I look forward to not having to call every 12 months to qualify for another promotion.
@@Adriana_EsXfinity Fiber is faster at 10 Gbps speeds. But, Verizon will offer you 1 Gig Symmetrical Fiber for $90 a month. With Xfinity Fiber, you only get to choose the 10 Gig Fiber for $330 a month
Understand the fundamentals of how cable and fiber work: Fiber is WELL in my opinion much better if managed correctly. Fiber will $h!t on the cable network, any day and anytime. Most of your cable providers have deploy what you call HFC. That stands for Hybrid Fiber Coaxial network. The main backbone for cable operators is fiber. What they use to transfer fiber to coaxial is called a node. Node will create RF signals off the rip and become amplified several times before it gets to the tap to your house. CMTS is the 'other end' or partner of your cable modem. CMTS determines how the signals and how much of the adjustments and what your cable modem or those damn boxes get. Let's go back to the node. Did you notice the upload speed difference of cable and fiber. Why is the upload speed so damn low? One big answer... upstream. This upstream in cable is an example of 'low split' upstream. It's all a frequency RF game in cable. The biggest problem in cable is not bandwidth. The main problem in coaxial cable is the interference that goes inside the coaxial system. Ingress, noise or interference is the biggest enemy of the system. It's also high maintenance. Coaxial cable DON'T last forever, by any means. What's really sensitive is not just the coax but the QAM 256 and OFDMA carries that goes down the wire. When coax gets bad you'll see a difference in the reliability. Fiber is immune to that because light doesn't get interference from EMF. Fiber doesn't have many overhead like cable does. Fiber can travel it's signals like 30 miles. RF can travel is far as a quarter mile without an amplifier, depending on how much signals or dBmv is from one point to another. Also the girth of the cable MATTERS in insertion loss. You also got impedance in the cable. So in a short term Fible is better and symmetrical, because the light source can return its signals the same way as it receives it..
Thank you for that pro information. Unrelated to fiber vs cable. My Xbox seems to lose its connection every couple of minutes, just for a moment. I started researching networking and how internet connections work. I came across a bit on how RF interference can mess with a wireless access point. As well as having too many access points in one area on the same or similar channel(I live in an apartment). Furthermore, in my investigation, a few months ago, I talked to a utility worker outside my home. He said he was picking up on high levels of noise, which probably meant a corroded cable somewhere underground. Anyways. I'm in the middle of a career change. How is the cable industry? I see fiber installation trucks going everywhere in my area
I actually moved to an area that had fiber..... because I wanted fiber. I have never looked back! It's amazing what people don't know about the differences. Great video!
Yep I bought my house with fiber availability being top of mind when making my purchase decisions. That being said it hasn’t been all good, unironically I had better reliability when I was on Comcast. I have only been in my house for about 2 years, and I have had 6 instances where my fiber was cut by my ISP when they would do burials to hook up my neighbors. I also suffered from packet loss on the initial installation due to a bad splice job of the fiber and just a list of other things. Fiber will always be better when done right but it’s also a pain to work with it and has its own issues
another thing to note is when streaming anything online you will notice a significant decrease in buffering times (little to none at all). So less freezing of streaming services and almost no latency at all when playing games.
The buried cable and telephone infrastructure in my neighborhood is over 30 years old. They are just now running fiber into my neighborhood. So, if nothing else, the infrastructure with fiber is new and hasn’t had 30 years to degrade and develop the problems that come with that. Also, I notice that everyday around 4:00 pm, my cable speeds turn to crap for a bit. I assume from all the kiddos coming home from school and streaming their favorite shows. I shouldn’t have nearly the same issue with fiber.
For anyone wondering why it took him 30s to upload 2GB file when he has “gigabit”, it’s because of 2 reasons: 1. Gigabit is “bit”, or 1 billion bits. Gigabyte is ~1 billion bytes (2^30 bytes) and 1 byte is = 8 bits. So, the shortest theoretical time at 916mbps is like 17.5s (or 16B bits ÷ 916M bits). 2. Network speeds on the server side. Chances are, the server he was uploading to could only accept speeds about half that. Hope that helps!
In my opinion regardless of if you upload stuff frequently or not, why not get more band for buck with fiber since (at least in your case) not only do you get exponentially better upload speeds, but you also get better ping. I'm switching to fiber this month and in my situation it is going to be half the price than what I was paying for cable so I don't really see why you choose cable over fiber at all.
For your fiber setup, is that actually a modem? Or does that just convert to rj45. I thought fiber only needed a router since it's already a digital signal. Never had fiber so just curious.
Also Comcast/Xfinity, the leading cable internet provider, is notorious for bandwidth sharing. Meaning you and neighbors have to share the 1G/s speed. If your neighbors are using a lot of bandwidth, your speed will drop dramatically. I can't wait for fiber optics providers to finally get to my neighborhood.
Google came into Louisville, but pulled out a year later. I now use Verizon 5G. It's slower than Spectrum, but I'm only paying $20/month. Spectrum costs above $70/month.
this might be a long time till it comes out but DOCSIS the standard that cable modems use is coming out with DOCSIS 4.0 witch promises symmetrical, uploading and downloading. like fiber so we will see
while this video was done a year ago, it was recommended to me today, 11-29-2023; still valid information, fiber is the way to go, however, a lot of ethernet cards top out at about 1gig so even if you have a 5gig fiber plan your ethernet card may still throttle you at 1gig (easy solution is to get a more robust ethernet card).
Please offer comments on both the CAT cable and network port. For best speeds, which cable should be used. What network card should be used? What are best setting should be applied in network settings to obtain the best UP & DOWN speeds?
I currently have cable service thru SPECTRUM. It provides me with three services. Internet, TV, and Landline phone service. I've signed up for Fiber Optic service which is now being installed. Will the new Fiber Optic installation provide me with all three services or only the Internet? Will I be able to cancel my SPECTRUM subscription, or will I need to keep it for my TV and phone service? How many Ethernet ports will the new modem have? I currently have two PCs a printer, and a caption phone connected to my provider's modem. Since I will need to make decisions in the near future any help would be greatly appreciated.
That depends entirely on your new internet provider. You usually need to subscribe to those extra services otherwise you will only get internet service. Most routers have 4 ethernet ports. If you need more ports, you can buy a network switch and plug it into a free port on the router.
Questions not asked but that need to be included in the decision. What's the cost of the service? Do you want another service along with your internet? How many ethernet ports do you need on your modem? What is the data cap & what are the penalties for going over? Can you use your own modem? Do you need high upload speeds? How high do you need for download speed?
We have fiber coming in here in a couple of weeks (i3 Broadband). According to their spec sheet they are cheaper than cable the first year and then jump to near parity. Phone and Full TV services are available. You can use your own equipment so you can either use your own router or add a switch for more ethernet ports. There is no data cap or throttling. The service is synchronous so the upload and download speeds will be the same. Upload and Download have a max of 3gbps. They also allow port forwarding (important for some.) which is something T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T lack but cable companies allow. Definitely check with your company to confirm their offering.
I have had fiber in my house for the past 6 years. It has been ultra-reliable, one outage in all those years. the problem was the power supply for the fiber "modem", which the cable company (Cox) provided free, free service call too. No doubt, for me fiber is the way to go.
Got to be some kind of nugget to choose outdated copper cables over light ones (pun intended). Contention ratio faster speeds are a thing of the past when fibre is in the building. (do you think those transalantic cables are copper in the bottoms of the big wobbly oceans of the world!
The best thing about having fiber installed is the competition it creates. As both cable and fiber optic provide speeds that are fast enough for me, but it also means that when my contract comes up for renewal I can hagle, and shop around if need be. Also, 5G is popping up in some areas and can be an alternative if need be, just check speeds and signal is ok before signing a contract. For example, do a 30 day contract to check service, then sign a longer contract to save money.
My area has Verizon Fios or EarthLink as the only options for fiber internet. I'm renting out a room in a 2 story apartment home with 2 different couples using 2 different ISPs (of which I know one is Verizon), I wanna know if its still possible for me to have my own ISP? I am by myself and only want fast wired fiber internet for my PC, gaming, streaming and maybe a couple other devices.
Both can be reliable services. In general, fiber internet is more reliable than copper-based services. But like any service, fiber can fail anywhere along the route. Its not usually a big deal though. If you have the option, I strongly suggest going with fiber internet.
There were at least two or more issues to your testing methodology, packet loss due to interference, longer runs, latency and how many hops to the test host for each but not all of these are related to the media being used. As a networking CCIE I would always chose fiber over cable especially for longer runs and less prone to electrical & other interference. P.s. The speed difference with upload speed is due to the cable company throttling the upload speed not the media. FYI
Correct, the red port is 2.5Gbit. It will also be dependent on his network card in his PC. With a Gigabit connection the speedometer TCP speed will cap at roughly 920Mbit netto. While the 2.5 port can easily support well over 2Gbit. No need to intruduce bottlenecs in a lan.
For protection of your data I’m assuming a hacker or anyone who knows a thing or two would have a little bit of harder time taking your data to their warehouse?
Uploads are USUALLY slower - no matter who provides your internet. HOWEVER, I recently moved, and they don't have cable out here. It's a remote place, and internet options are limited. HOWEVER, one of the providers (TDS) started offering fiber. I only have the 300Mbps plan, but it usually meets or exceeds that, and the upload speed usually meets that or exceeds it. Upload speed is important. It's especially important, now that speeds in general are getting faster. Internet usage is typically two way communication - especially during browsing. The more information you can send, the faster your experience will be, or at least, your experience will be slowed, whenever a server is waiting for your response. Of course, this will be important for uploading videos to TH-cam & other sites. It could also be important for online gaming as well.
Would my 1000down and 35up which it never hits 35up its usually around 14 to 20up. But I find my pc which is hardwired to buffer and skip on YT. Hulu Live on the TV will drop resolution from 1080p to 480p then after a few seconds goes back up. I have tried EVERYTHING. My own equipment, tried other streaming services etc. I have come to the conclusion that 35mbps up is just absolutely too slow for todays time. I am seriously thinking about ditching cable that I have been with for over 16yrs and go with ATT Fiber. Cheaper, Faster, and no contract. Will upload speed affect live streaming like Hulu Live TV and YT videos?
Can you test on a Bredband modem? :D I want to see how it comapres to these, as I just moved I realised I cant get fiber here, but can get either Cabel or modem :D
Finally got the answer of this question *"Why my upload is too much slow"* After 7 Year Now I will buy a fiber connection Thank U very much for making this VDO
I hope to move this spring . I don't upload much but s new company with fiber is now available in my town and from a lot of the comments , it looks like the better deal. My cable often gets interference and the internet is not so hot either , It was not working all Christmas day.
My dsl is 5m doun and .6 up.I would love to have your "crappy" speeds. And every time the bell has to come here to repair something they throttle it down more. I so hate them but have no option
DOCSIS 4.0 Cable is coming. It can do up to 6GB Symmetrical over existing Coax cable. Comcast has already announce successful testing earlier in 2023. It will be great for those who cannot get fiber but who knows what it will cost.
Fiber can carry loads Coaxial has massive collisions often not stable when under load and they are share among 5-7 houses next door to you, often fall short when you depend on it
Well I got tired of one specific company having a monopoly in my area...suddenly new companies moving in the with fiber optics and I jumped on it...great speed and great service
Looks like you plugged into the wrong slot on Xfinity box. You need to use the connection with the orange line on it as that's the fastest connection on modem.
We went from DSL to fiber and it's like going to warp speed. Imagine going from 8-9 downloads and 3 uploads to 120 and 120 and we have the entry level only that is perfect for our needs.
Oh yea. I moved from dial up to DSL in 2008 (at least my dad got us AT&T) and it was a massive improvement. I remember when I got my first ipod, I had to download itunes to put music on it. I took over 12 hours over dial up to download. With that DSL connection, it took less than 20 minutes. We had DSL for nearly a decade before we switched to Comcast in late 2018. I just switched to a new fiber provider a few months ago and am loving the service.
Nice to have a choice. Around here most places have underground utilities and no one is keen on digging up the streets and properties to lay fiber optic cables. Newer neighborhoods yes, homes built 15 years ago, nope. We also have just one monopoly cable company, COX which is not horrible. Pretty reliable, relatively high prices and for me, only use the internet service. No phone or TEE VEE stuff.
My subdivision was built in 1996. We now have the option of cable or fiber. Last year Conexon Connect came and dug up everyone's yard and installed the necessary equipment for fiber optics. I will be switching over next month from cable. The price for cable internet is getting out of control.
You also did not mention that with cable it is shared bandwidth with the pod you are on. Like your neighborhood. You share the total bandwidth with everyone on the same pod. When more people are using the internet your speed will decrease. With fiber you have dedicated bandwidth so you always have the same available bandwidth regardless of the time of day.
Yeah your test didn't show the ping differanced between the two.. I'm guessing you should have something like 1-5ms ping on fiber, and like 25-60ms ping on cable. Oh I guess it did show. I was pretty close with my guesses.
Well, I've had Comcast since the early 2000s when they took over AT&T Broadband. I also upload videos for my YT channel and recently uploaded my first 4K video, and it took almost 2 hours to upload!? Unfortunately, I don't have a fiber option to switch over to, and if it becomes available, I'm in. I really don't understand why Comcast has such sloooow upload speeds! I'm sure I'm not the only one unhappy about this drag your heels speed! 😡😡
I had Comcast cable for years and then ATT became available in my neighborhood. Cable upload speed has never been fast, generally 75mb in my area, however fiber is equal speed up and down. My 1000 fiber service speed tests ~930mb due to the required overhead, which they warn you about when signing up. Even better is the fact that in my 3 years with fiber is has been down only twice, way less than my cable experience at the same house.
Unfortunately i live in a newer neighborhood (developed ~25years ago) so all of our utility cables are undergroud, which means that local ISPs are prioritizibg older areas with above ground utilities to switch to fiber first, so unfortunately it isnt available in my area. I only have 2 options, Spectrum or ATT DSL. Obviously i went with Spectrum due to their faster speeds over DSL. I would switch to ATT in a heartbeat if they got fiber in my area, but since they dobt, my Specrum setvice is up to 10x faster downliad speeds. Upload speeds suck, no better than 20mb/s any time of day.
My neighborhood was built 50 years ago with all underground utilities. One of the fiber companies had permission to install at the front beside the street. They were super quick installing and, apart from an occasional sprinkler pipe they had no issues. The new fiber outfit had to install in the easement at back and their drill had to skip around power and gas lines as well as the crappy old cable co. Lines. Much more difficult and expensive to do. But they got it done.
i'm using fiber 100mbps down 50mbps up...fps game and streaming maintain like 16-20ms....but it depends on game server...sometimes i do get like 40ms...but still runs good no network delay...unless it heavy use and the internet speed can't keep it up...but still can be fix by upgrading fiber internet speed..
With cable you have to sponsor maintenance and new gear for every generation of Docsis upgrade. While fiber is way more stable and the ISP have to replace simple plug and play gear for every 10x increase in speed.
My DSL is slightly faster than the old dialup.I also have comcast cable internet too.Its way faster than the DSL.My comcast usually goes out all the time but my DSL used to never go out.Now my DSL goes out more than comcast,Presently my DSL with a landline phone has been out for 3 weeks now.They claim an underground cable is the problem.They cant seem to fix it.
cable uses neighborhood bandwidth sharing wich means neighbors downloading and streaming a lot can affect a hole block almost then if your like him with extra tv service it can even slow it down in your house even more and be more incosistant when tv is on because now that line is split even more.
CABLE (copper cable) is shared when it comes to transferring data, there's just no way of getting around it. Fiber Optic is dedicated, meaning the fiber optic line you have is YOURS and it is a direct route to your ISP without sharing. Why anyone would pay for cable internet if fiber optic is available and closely matched in price is beyond me.
Fiber is usually shared on a PON network. One PON port goes through a splitter into 32 or 64, then those run to the houses. The bandwidth is still shared unless you have a rare ISP running active ethernet.
What does this mean you live in an area where you ISP does not artificially limit your speeds. My home only gets 1000/50 ,250/25, 100/20, 50/20 which in my opinion is not very good. So called FTTP but junk connections.
I started working in an ISP and this is my no BS advice: Simple answer for anyone in a rush there is more loss in cable internet, and it can be interfered. HOWEVER, fiber optical internet doesn't have loss it's only slight loss basically pick fiber if it's not expensive. The people that work on optical internet in an ISP work with more patience and do better jobs. I would recommend optical internet in 99.99% of situations.
Good video! AT&T has yet to come My area to put in fiber. Fiber can handle a lot . I currently have AT&T internet access & it seems to do .fine . I had internet access from Spectrum cable formerly TWC . Time Warner Cable . They got to be too over priced. The speed wasn’t all that great.
Here's the deal I don't think the broadband company was able to provide you with faster upload speed or you have to ask for it. They often only care about the download speed and therefore they only quote you the download speed. But you were on the plan with the fiber internet company that gave you the same download and upload speed. In my situation my local fiber internet company had one with the higher download speed or one with the same speed mode upload and download and I chose that one.
Actually light travels at 67% the speed of light through a fiber while RF travels at 87% speed of light through a coax main line, so actually the signal travels faster through coax than through fiber, look it up.
I notice the cable company installed a drop amp in the basement. That tells me the signal comes in weak and needs to be amplified to reach acceptable levels .
You really do not want gear that depends on cable and a chain of amps. A single fault or poor connection means problems. Even the cable company replaces cable with FTTH where I live. Less costs, less maintenance, better stability and cheaper to upgrade.
The problem is the assumption is that every cable network is the same configuration. I get 9ms ping times and have 170 mbps uploads on my cable. The current limit is 1.5gbps down. This cable network was installed in probably the late 70s. A lot of the current limitations are because cable companies run multiple service styles on a network. A fiber GPON uses IP only and coax uses IP over modulated RF which is one more step that adds latency, plus they have broadcast information for older digital boxes. If the cable company ran IP only, then they can fully use the network for data and go pure IP. I haven't heard of anybody having an issue with 9ms ping vs 1ms ping. A cable system maxed out on the latest tech will do 10gig/6gig. Some will do 10gig/10gig using a different technique. Since I know some more technical people with cable experience may be foaming at the mouth, my network is a 1.2ghz RPhy node with a mid split return and the OFDMA carrier is from 45-85mhz. I also have two OFDM carriers, one with a PLC at 350mhz and the other PLC is 920mhz. The system has not been segmented and has 350 modems on there. About 20 percent of the modems use the three 256QAM upstreams and one 64 QAM upstream and thirty two 256 QAM downstreams. If the system goes high split, the oldest digital boxes with a 129mhz FDC will go offline. If the system goes dual OFDMA return the 19mhz RDC for those boxes will also go offline. The 64 QAM cannot be 256 without killing the 19mhz RDC due to it's width. Some times the OFDMA is in the dirt beneath 19mhz on a 42mhz return. Any new 1.2ghz areas have no more than 30 modems per port on a node with no actives. They will run at 1.8ghz if my crappy huge neighborhood network runs at 1.2ghz, with amps, on a 40 year old network. Fiber GPON going in from a telco. Nobody cares. 170 upload is enough, 1.5 gig download is enough. Most houses have the modem shown in the video which means there is only one modem per house instead of 5 TV boxes (with modems) and an internet modem and a phone modem. All the new TV boxes are IP and don't use broadcast. Within months 500 up will be a reality. Every cableco greenfield install is FTTH since 2012. Every new upgraded coax network is now going IP fed to the node. Every new node clamshell has the ability to swap out the RF module and install a GPON module. An AI combs the networks in 15 minute intervals and creates calls for any deviances so that they will be fixed before the customer sees it. Not all cable companies are slow and stupid.
it also depend on location my house the fiber keeps going out so i decided to stick with cable for now i have 300 mbps plan and sometime get around 500
What can I do since where I live there is still only cable coming to the house. Would I be able to use a MoAC adapter connect the coax to it and then to the modem and make it faster?
Absolutely not. MoCA is only used as a last resort to using an existing coaxial cable as for means to create an 'ethernet based' network. MoCA uses even higher frequency bands than most cable providers will bring into your home. MoCA is only to be used within the SAME network in your home. That's it. You also are required to use a MoCA filter to trap the MoCA frequency from leaving your house. If you chose to use your modem to connect with a MoCA adapter that modem has to have the MoCA feature on it. MoCA is yet another overhead to convert RF to ethernet.
In my province there are two big internet companies, one of them has fiber and the other one doesn't. The Fiber one, boasts about how you can get 1000 MB download speed from their 1.5 GB internet bundle, I've done tests on this at a friend's house and it's true, it's pretty close, the other company recently apparently got fibreop, however this isn't true, they have fibreop running to an internet node in your area but, from that node to your house is still cable. For download speeds, both companies are pretty evenly matched. Look for upload speed. The fibreop wins hands down, and the company that uses cable only has a maximum upload speed of 15 MB. I'm not sure how this would affect you gaming wise, but I do know that if you stream a lot, it would probably affect you.
For the same price I'm always picking the fastest however in my area you can get 2.5 gig up and down fiber for the Samer prices 1 gig with cable with the much slower upload speed. Needless to say I'm switching to fiber soon.
I had Comcast cable Internet for years. Dropped them when AT&T installed fiber in my neighborhood. Have had AT&T for about six months now and it has been very unreliable. Very disappointed in it and I’m dropping it to go back to Comcast. Comcast definitely doesn’t have the fastest upload speeds through their cable, but at least their service is reliable.
I'd reach out to AT&T's support and have them check your fiber line. Fiber internet itself is reliable, but like everything there is bound to be some sort of issue somewhere, be it in the cable run, your AT&T gateway or elsewhere.
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They came with fiber Which gets converted to a coaxial which then goes to the modem then to ethernet This did not make sense to me so I haven’t switched Does anyone know why and what they are doing???
Its called RFOG. Radio Frequency Over Glass. It is sending the same radio frequency signals cable uses over fiber optic cable. It is another form of PON technology without retraining their staff. If they plan on switching to full fiber standards they just need to switch out the electronics, as RFOG networks are physically the same. This still has advantges of fiber cable, such as no interference.
I upgrading to fiber because wireless internet horrible I only able get 50 and sometimes buffering & picture on streaming tv get blurry. We getting fiber installed Thurs
I chose fiber optic because gigabit cable cost 10 dollars more, and wouldn't even give me a tenth of the upload speed, so there was no reason to really keep cable internet.
One thing you forgot to mention is the latency difference which is arguably the most important thing for gamers playing first person shooters. The Cable in your test had over 3x higher latency at 20ms vs Fiber at 6ms.
Great point. So less of a delay with fiber. Great for gamers, too.
20 ms ain’t bad, it’s better than most joes out there
Other than random ping spikes cable has so you will not always get 20ms
My cable latency is 10ms n spikes up to 35ms sometimes. Always between those points. If your latency is 50ms or below then your winning
My cable ping is never more than 9ms our Fibre ping is 3-5 ms. Virtually no difference. And we are getting symmetrical up/down over coax this year
That upload speed is just insane ! In less than two weeks I'll have fiber in home, can't wait !
mbn do you have it now and can you tell a difference? they have it in 77% of my zip code area but i have yet to get it kinda sad cse ive been waiting about 4 years since i heard abt it just wish i knew how much longer it will take
You will like it alot it good for streaming Netflix and playing PC game
Nice 👍🏼
I got Google fiber last year. Best ever
@@johnh8705wheres that available?
We recently got fiber in the neighborhood and I switched for several reasons:
1. Any time there was a storm the cable co went down. Fiber never goes down.
2. The cable would crap out almost any time for no apparent reason,
3. I have a great fiber price and it is fixed. The cable guys kept sneaking it up hoping you wouldnt notice.
4. Service. The cable co had terrible tech and phone service. They run the company in very old school way.
5. Even though cable had buried fiber it still had to come into the house via copper coax.
6. Cable relied on selling house phone and cable tv content and even security to up their revenue and it also kept sneaking up. The “packages” were infuriating. Fiber does one thing; deliver very fast and reliable internet connection. What you want in content and services is up to you to select and manage.
Now a second fiber company is laying fiber as I write. Options and competition is always good. The old cable company is dying as their business model is hopelessly out of date.
Yea, during power outages I like to use a generator and turn on my modem and it still works because of fiber
@@ItzAwsomeWasTaken Agreed. Do the same.
*"I have a great fiber price and it is fixed. The cable guys kept sneaking it up hoping you wouldn't notice."* Evidently, you haven't experienced Bell Fibe at its best. With them, they guarantee a fixed price but to keep things legal, they slowly reduce the discount rate so they can charge more over time. This is in Canada by the way.
@@ItzAwsomeWasTaken your modem would still work even if it was cable.
@@ItzAwsomeWasTakenlol. A cable modem would work as well too. Both a cable and fiber network still needs power for their equipment.
Switching from Cable to Fiber in 3 days! Going from $145 a month for 1000mbps to $35 a month for 1000mbps for fiber. Can’t wait to experience this!
You will love it
Trust me
It's much faster than cable Internet.
Your going to like fiber. None of your neighbors are going slow you down.
With what service are you getting gig internet for $35/month?
No where @@t.k.morris
Did you like it? And do you recommend?
Fiber is also much more reliable than cable as fiber is virtually immune to electromagnetic interference
what does this exactly mean if you dont mind sharing?
That right.
@@iamnobodyy_You won't lose service when it storms.
@@HeavyMetalSonicRMunless lightning hits your line and fries it. I had this happen twice with att fiber. First time it fried the line, second time it fried the line, fiber box and router.
@@srtology how can it hit line when 99% of it is underground? can it fry it when it hits ground? no pun intended but isnt it "grounded" ???
I have fiber for about six months and it’s game changer. So happy my state and town have the program.
Cap it sucks
@@bruuh-os7254You probably have a crappy plan then because mine runs flawlessly
@@bruuh-os7254 keep copeing
I'm switching to fiber because it's supposed to be always on at full blast with no inconsistencies like cable, which only works when it feels like it.
cable uses neighborhood bandwidth sharing wich means neighbors downloading and streaming a lot can affect a hole block almost then if your like him with extra tv service it can even slow it down in your house even more and be more incosistant when tv is on because now that line is split even more.
@@Babbagesany consumer connection is gunna have share bandwidth at the node this applies to fiber not just cable.
It’s also not something to particularly worry about since the engineers that make the big bucks account for all of this before they build out to make your neighborhood serviceable. It was always a mute point and the only time it ever becomes a issue is with very high density housing so like apartment complexes
I was paying $50 for 300/30 cable. Three years later I was paying $80 for 300/30. Fiber came to my town and I got 500/500 for $40, locked in price for life.
Not a hard decision at all
May I ask which company gave this awesome service
Fiber here cost around 13USD for 40mb/10mb
Damm I felt so jealous now
@@htinsharkyaw8308 90$ for 1 gig over here - 110$ for 2.5
Congrats on that price and speeds. Here my 300/300 cost 70$ (Norway, rural on an island). It is not too bad, but I am locked with that single ISP for now. Later I assume they will have to open for competing offers on the same fiber, and then lower price or higher speeds will be available for sure.
i got 500/50 fiber for 24 euro a month (about 26 dollars)
We recently moved to fiber. We did so because the provider in our area has a set price and it doesn't change when a so-called promotion lapses. The cost changes when it changes for everyone. They also will not throttle our speed like the cable ISP has been doing. I look forward to not having to call every 12 months to qualify for another promotion.
Agreed. I have been doing the promotion dance for years with cable. Have Fiber being hooked up this Friday and then its bye bye cable.
Which fiber company is this? I'm trying to decide whether to do Xfinity Fiber or Verizon Fios.
@@Adriana_EsXfinity Fiber is faster at 10 Gbps speeds. But, Verizon will offer you 1 Gig Symmetrical Fiber for $90 a month. With Xfinity Fiber, you only get to choose the 10 Gig Fiber for $330 a month
Understand the fundamentals of how cable and fiber work: Fiber is WELL in my opinion much better if managed correctly. Fiber will $h!t on the cable network, any day and anytime. Most of your cable providers have deploy what you call HFC. That stands for Hybrid Fiber Coaxial network. The main backbone for cable operators is fiber. What they use to transfer fiber to coaxial is called a node. Node will create RF signals off the rip and become amplified several times before it gets to the tap to your house. CMTS is the 'other end' or partner of your cable modem. CMTS determines how the signals and how much of the adjustments and what your cable modem or those damn boxes get. Let's go back to the node. Did you notice the upload speed difference of cable and fiber. Why is the upload speed so damn low? One big answer... upstream. This upstream in cable is an example of 'low split' upstream. It's all a frequency RF game in cable. The biggest problem in cable is not bandwidth. The main problem in coaxial cable is the interference that goes inside the coaxial system. Ingress, noise or interference is the biggest enemy of the system. It's also high maintenance. Coaxial cable DON'T last forever, by any means. What's really sensitive is not just the coax but the QAM 256 and OFDMA carries that goes down the wire. When coax gets bad you'll see a difference in the reliability. Fiber is immune to that because light doesn't get interference from EMF. Fiber doesn't have many overhead like cable does. Fiber can travel it's signals like 30 miles. RF can travel is far as a quarter mile without an amplifier, depending on how much signals or dBmv is from one point to another. Also the girth of the cable MATTERS in insertion loss. You also got impedance in the cable. So in a short term Fible is better and symmetrical, because the light source can return its signals the same way as it receives it..
Thank you for that pro information.
Unrelated to fiber vs cable. My Xbox seems to lose its connection every couple of minutes, just for a moment. I started researching networking and how internet connections work. I came across a bit on how RF interference can mess with a wireless access point. As well as having too many access points in one area on the same or similar channel(I live in an apartment).
Furthermore, in my investigation, a few months ago, I talked to a utility worker outside my home. He said he was picking up on high levels of noise, which probably meant a corroded cable somewhere underground.
Anyways. I'm in the middle of a career change. How is the cable industry? I see fiber installation trucks going everywhere in my area
I like the speed of light 😎💡
I actually moved to an area that had fiber..... because I wanted fiber. I have never looked back! It's amazing what people don't know about the differences. Great video!
Yep I bought my house with fiber availability being top of mind when making my purchase decisions. That being said it hasn’t been all good, unironically I had better reliability when I was on Comcast.
I have only been in my house for about 2 years, and I have had 6 instances where my fiber was cut by my ISP when they would do burials to hook up my neighbors.
I also suffered from packet loss on the initial installation due to a bad splice job of the fiber and just a list of other things.
Fiber will always be better when done right but it’s also a pain to work with it and has its own issues
another thing to note is when streaming anything online you will notice a significant decrease in buffering times (little to none at all). So less freezing of streaming services and almost no latency at all when playing games.
I get no buffering at all
The buried cable and telephone infrastructure in my neighborhood is over 30 years old. They are just now running fiber into my neighborhood. So, if nothing else, the infrastructure with fiber is new and hasn’t had 30 years to degrade and develop the problems that come with that. Also, I notice that everyday around 4:00 pm, my cable speeds turn to crap for a bit. I assume from all the kiddos coming home from school and streaming their favorite shows. I shouldn’t have nearly the same issue with fiber.
For anyone wondering why it took him 30s to upload 2GB file when he has “gigabit”, it’s because of 2 reasons:
1. Gigabit is “bit”, or 1 billion bits. Gigabyte is ~1 billion bytes (2^30 bytes) and 1 byte is = 8 bits. So, the shortest theoretical time at 916mbps is like 17.5s (or 16B bits ÷ 916M bits).
2. Network speeds on the server side. Chances are, the server he was uploading to could only accept speeds about half that.
Hope that helps!
The latency is also really important part of your internet experience. Fiber was 6 ms which is really good.
I’d take the 20 any day lmao I’m sitting at a low of 90ms on a good day 😭
I'm on ADSL. Get spikes of up to 500 ms on ethernet lol. Can't wait for fibre optic to get installed in the home!@@pw9404
In my opinion regardless of if you upload stuff frequently or not, why not get more band for buck with fiber since (at least in your case) not only do you get exponentially better upload speeds, but you also get better ping. I'm switching to fiber this month and in my situation it is going to be half the price than what I was paying for cable so I don't really see why you choose cable over fiber at all.
For your fiber setup, is that actually a modem? Or does that just convert to rj45. I thought fiber only needed a router since it's already a digital signal. Never had fiber so just curious.
They would still give U a router for wifi and to control your bundle service
Also Comcast/Xfinity, the leading cable internet provider, is notorious for bandwidth sharing. Meaning you and neighbors have to share the 1G/s speed. If your neighbors are using a lot of bandwidth, your speed will drop dramatically. I can't wait for fiber optics providers to finally get to my neighborhood.
Google came into Louisville, but pulled out a year later. I now use Verizon 5G. It's slower than Spectrum, but I'm only paying $20/month. Spectrum costs above $70/month.
How did you compare these two and not use the word latency once?
I prefer ookla I never trust Google speed test 😅
I chose fiber for my photography business. Sending my clients their gallery by cable took 1 hour. Now it takes 1 minute. Sending large photo files
this might be a long time till it comes out but DOCSIS the standard that cable modems use is coming out with DOCSIS 4.0 witch promises symmetrical, uploading and downloading. like fiber so we will see
while this video was done a year ago, it was recommended to me today, 11-29-2023; still valid information, fiber is the way to go, however, a lot of ethernet cards top out at about 1gig so even if you have a 5gig fiber plan your ethernet card may still throttle you at 1gig (easy solution is to get a more robust ethernet card).
Please offer comments on both the CAT cable and network port. For best speeds, which cable should be used. What network card should be used? What are best setting should be applied in network settings to obtain the best UP & DOWN speeds?
Thank you very much for the informative comparison between google fiber and cable. Great Job!
I currently have cable service thru SPECTRUM. It provides me with three services. Internet, TV, and Landline phone service. I've signed up for Fiber Optic service which is now being installed. Will the new Fiber Optic installation provide me with all three services or only the Internet? Will I be able to cancel my SPECTRUM subscription, or will I need to keep it for my TV and phone service? How many Ethernet ports will the new modem have? I currently have two PCs a printer, and a caption phone connected to my provider's modem. Since I will need to make decisions in the near future any help would be greatly appreciated.
That depends entirely on your new internet provider. You usually need to subscribe to those extra services otherwise you will only get internet service. Most routers have 4 ethernet ports. If you need more ports, you can buy a network switch and plug it into a free port on the router.
There is no comparison the fiber is the way to go,I personally have Greenlight but had cable and the cable was more expensive and much slower
Here in Switzerland, we enjoy 10Gbit in most parts of the country. All cables are burried in the ground. Telephon poles have gone a long time ago.
Questions not asked but that need to be included in the decision.
What's the cost of the service?
Do you want another service along with your internet?
How many ethernet ports do you need on your modem?
What is the data cap & what are the penalties for going over?
Can you use your own modem?
Do you need high upload speeds?
How high do you need for download speed?
We have fiber coming in here in a couple of weeks (i3 Broadband). According to their spec sheet they are cheaper than cable the first year and then jump to near parity. Phone and Full TV services are available. You can use your own equipment so you can either use your own router or add a switch for more ethernet ports. There is no data cap or throttling. The service is synchronous so the upload and download speeds will be the same. Upload and Download have a max of 3gbps. They also allow port forwarding (important for some.) which is something T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T lack but cable companies allow. Definitely check with your company to confirm their offering.
I have had fiber in my house for the past 6 years. It has been ultra-reliable, one outage in all those years. the problem was the power supply for the fiber "modem", which the cable company (Cox) provided free, free service call too. No doubt, for me fiber is the way to go.
thanks for the video. the key take away for me is the difference in ping, cable was 20ms, fibre 6ms, huge difference in gaming.
Got to be some kind of nugget to choose outdated copper cables over light ones (pun intended). Contention ratio faster speeds are a thing of the past when fibre is in the building. (do you think those transalantic cables are copper in the bottoms of the big wobbly oceans of the world!
The best thing about having fiber installed is the competition it creates. As both cable and fiber optic provide speeds that are fast enough for me, but it also means that when my contract comes up for renewal I can hagle, and shop around if need be.
Also, 5G is popping up in some areas and can be an alternative if need be, just check speeds and signal is ok before signing a contract. For example, do a 30 day contract to check service, then sign a longer contract to save money.
My area has Verizon Fios or EarthLink as the only options for fiber internet. I'm renting out a room in a 2 story apartment home with 2 different couples using 2 different ISPs (of which I know one is Verizon), I wanna know if its still possible for me to have my own ISP? I am by myself and only want fast wired fiber internet for my PC, gaming, streaming and maybe a couple other devices.
Is any more efficient in terms of stability than the other? So do you get fewer drop-ous with either copper or fibre?
Both can be reliable services. In general, fiber internet is more reliable than copper-based services. But like any service, fiber can fail anywhere along the route. Its not usually a big deal though. If you have the option, I strongly suggest going with fiber internet.
There were at least two or more issues to your testing methodology, packet loss due to interference, longer runs, latency and how many hops to the test host for each but not all of these are related to the media being used. As a networking CCIE I would always chose fiber over cable especially for longer runs and less prone to electrical & other interference. P.s. The speed difference with upload speed is due to the cable company throttling the upload speed not the media. FYI
I wouldn't consider going back to cable unless it was pretty much the only option.
You plugged into a 1Gb port on the Comcast XB8, you should plug into the bottom right port which is 2.5Gb. I'm getting 1.4Gb Down but not much UP.
Correct, the red port is 2.5Gbit. It will also be dependent on his network card in his PC. With a Gigabit connection the speedometer TCP speed will cap at roughly 920Mbit netto. While the 2.5 port can easily support well over 2Gbit. No need to intruduce bottlenecs in a lan.
For protection of your data I’m assuming a hacker or anyone who knows a thing or two would have a little bit of harder time taking your data to their warehouse?
Uploads are USUALLY slower - no matter who provides your internet. HOWEVER, I recently moved, and they don't have cable out here. It's a remote place, and internet options are limited. HOWEVER, one of the providers (TDS) started offering fiber. I only have the 300Mbps plan, but it usually meets or exceeds that, and the upload speed usually meets that or exceeds it. Upload speed is important. It's especially important, now that speeds in general are getting faster. Internet usage is typically two way communication - especially during browsing. The more information you can send, the faster your experience will be, or at least, your experience will be slowed, whenever a server is waiting for your response. Of course, this will be important for uploading videos to TH-cam & other sites. It could also be important for online gaming as well.
Would my 1000down and 35up which it never hits 35up its usually around 14 to 20up. But I find my pc which is hardwired to buffer and skip on YT. Hulu Live on the TV will drop resolution from 1080p to 480p then after a few seconds goes back up. I have tried EVERYTHING. My own equipment, tried other streaming services etc. I have come to the conclusion that 35mbps up is just absolutely too slow for todays time. I am seriously thinking about ditching cable that I have been with for over 16yrs and go with ATT Fiber. Cheaper, Faster, and no contract. Will upload speed affect live streaming like Hulu Live TV and YT videos?
@@chasen432 Did you make the switch?
Can you test on a Bredband modem? :D I want to see how it comapres to these, as I just moved I realised I cant get fiber here, but can get either Cabel or modem :D
Finally got the answer of this question
*"Why my upload is too much slow"*
After 7 Year
Now I will buy a fiber connection
Thank U very much for making this VDO
I hope to move this spring . I don't upload much but s new company with fiber is now available in my town and from a lot of the comments , it looks like the better deal. My cable often gets interference and the internet is not so hot either , It was not working all Christmas day.
I hate how my job is to work with fiber and computer systems but don't have fiber in my neighborhood
My dsl is 5m doun and .6 up.I would love to have your "crappy" speeds. And every time the bell has to come here to repair something they throttle it down more. I so hate them but have no option
DOCSIS 4.0 Cable is coming. It can do up to 6GB Symmetrical over existing Coax cable. Comcast has already announce successful testing earlier in 2023. It will
be great for those who cannot get fiber but who knows what it will cost.
funny thing is, the cable companies keep needing to add more and more fiber to add more nodes to get higher speeds. Just run ftth at that point.
But what fiber service is the best for streaming and gaming
Fiber can carry loads
Coaxial has massive collisions
often not stable when under load and they are share among 5-7 houses next door to you, often fall short when you depend on it
Well I got tired of one specific company having a monopoly in my area...suddenly new companies moving in the with fiber optics and I jumped on it...great speed and great service
LOL @ 35mb upload not good enough... what you running an Enterprise network ?
hello is the ASUS AC2900 WiFi Gaming Router (RT-AC86U) compatible for fiber
Looks like you plugged into the wrong slot on Xfinity box. You need to use the connection with the orange line on it as that's the fastest connection on modem.
I currently have Xfinity cable but I'm gonna drop it and switch to fibre since it is available.
Thank you sir! I'm a Content Creator and I need this Fiber for mt 18 GB Videos lol :)
We went from DSL to fiber and it's like going to warp speed. Imagine going from 8-9 downloads and 3 uploads to 120 and 120 and we have the entry level only that is perfect for our needs.
Oh yea. I moved from dial up to DSL in 2008 (at least my dad got us AT&T) and it was a massive improvement. I remember when I got my first ipod, I had to download itunes to put music on it. I took over 12 hours over dial up to download. With that DSL connection, it took less than 20 minutes. We had DSL for nearly a decade before we switched to Comcast in late 2018. I just switched to a new fiber provider a few months ago and am loving the service.
Nice to have a choice. Around here most places have underground utilities and no one is keen on digging up the streets and properties to lay fiber optic cables. Newer neighborhoods yes, homes built 15 years ago, nope. We also have just one monopoly cable company, COX which is not horrible. Pretty reliable, relatively high prices and for me, only use the internet service. No phone or TEE VEE stuff.
My subdivision was built in 1996. We now have the option of cable or fiber. Last year Conexon Connect came and dug up everyone's yard and installed the necessary equipment for fiber optics. I will be switching over next month from cable. The price for cable internet is getting out of control.
You also did not mention that with cable it is shared bandwidth with the pod you are on. Like your neighborhood. You share the total bandwidth with everyone on the same pod. When more people are using the internet your speed will decrease. With fiber you have dedicated bandwidth so you always have the same available bandwidth regardless of the time of day.
Yeah your test didn't show the ping differanced between the two..
I'm guessing you should have something like 1-5ms ping on fiber, and like 25-60ms ping on cable.
Oh I guess it did show. I was pretty close with my guesses.
you should've tested the xfinity ethernet speed from the orange port. That's the fastest port
Well, I've had Comcast since the early 2000s when they took over AT&T Broadband. I also upload videos for my YT channel and recently uploaded my first 4K video, and it took almost 2 hours to upload!? Unfortunately, I don't have a fiber option to switch over to, and if it becomes available, I'm in. I really don't understand why Comcast has such sloooow upload speeds! I'm sure I'm not the only one unhappy about this drag your heels speed! 😡😡
I had Comcast cable for years and then ATT became available in my neighborhood. Cable upload speed has never been fast, generally 75mb in my area, however fiber is equal speed up and down. My 1000 fiber service speed tests ~930mb due to the required overhead, which they warn you about when signing up. Even better is the fact that in my 3 years with fiber is has been down only twice, way less than my cable experience at the same house.
Unfortunately i live in a newer neighborhood (developed ~25years ago) so all of our utility cables are undergroud, which means that local ISPs are prioritizibg older areas with above ground utilities to switch to fiber first, so unfortunately it isnt available in my area. I only have 2 options, Spectrum or ATT DSL. Obviously i went with Spectrum due to their faster speeds over DSL. I would switch to ATT in a heartbeat if they got fiber in my area, but since they dobt, my Specrum setvice is up to 10x faster downliad speeds. Upload speeds suck, no better than 20mb/s any time of day.
My neighborhood was built 50 years ago with all underground utilities. One of the fiber companies had permission to install at the front beside the street. They were super quick installing and, apart from an occasional sprinkler pipe they had no issues. The new fiber outfit had to install in the easement at back and their drill had to skip around power and gas lines as well as the crappy old cable co. Lines. Much more difficult and expensive to do. But they got it done.
Cable's like paying for a full tank of gas and only getting half the tank.
i'm using fiber 100mbps down 50mbps up...fps game and streaming maintain like 16-20ms....but it depends on game server...sometimes i do get like 40ms...but still runs good no network delay...unless it heavy use and the internet speed can't keep it up...but still can be fix by upgrading fiber internet speed..
the latency is down by 3 times in fiber which is crucial for real-time communications like gaming and FHD meetings etc
My local fiber has fixed pricing while my Cable internet service provider is ALWAYS changing the price and it's never lower always higher.
With cable you have to sponsor maintenance and new gear for every generation of Docsis upgrade. While fiber is way more stable and the ISP have to replace simple plug and play gear for every 10x increase in speed.
@@la7dfa that explains verizon's 4 year price lock
My DSL is slightly faster than the old dialup.I also have comcast cable internet too.Its way faster than the DSL.My comcast usually goes out all the time but my DSL used to never go out.Now my DSL goes out more than comcast,Presently my DSL with a landline phone has been out for 3 weeks now.They claim an underground cable is the problem.They cant seem to fix it.
Just ordered Fiber Because I play Sports on My PS5 and latency ruins it all for me and Fiber will help hopefully thank you
Great video. I've been trying to convince my folks to make the switch to fiber optic.
cable uses neighborhood bandwidth sharing wich means neighbors downloading and streaming a lot can affect a hole block almost then if your like him with extra tv service it can even slow it down in your house even more and be more incosistant when tv is on because now that line is split even more.
im so ready to go pro in fortnite with this new fiber tech thank you so much mister for the useful information!
CABLE (copper cable) is shared when it comes to transferring data, there's just no way of getting around it. Fiber Optic is dedicated, meaning the fiber optic line you have is YOURS and it is a direct route to your ISP without sharing. Why anyone would pay for cable internet if fiber optic is available and closely matched in price is beyond me.
Unless you never use your internet or just use it on occassion, but nowadays that's becoming less common.
Fiber is usually shared on a PON network. One PON port goes through a splitter into 32 or 64, then those run to the houses. The bandwidth is still shared unless you have a rare ISP running active ethernet.
What does this mean you live in an area where you ISP does not artificially limit your speeds. My home only gets 1000/50 ,250/25, 100/20, 50/20 which in my opinion is not very good. So called FTTP but junk connections.
Just left fiber for spectrum having random drops on fiber!
I started working in an ISP and this is my no BS advice: Simple answer for anyone in a rush there is more loss in cable internet, and it can be interfered. HOWEVER, fiber optical internet doesn't have loss it's only slight loss basically pick fiber if it's not expensive. The people that work on optical internet in an ISP work with more patience and do better jobs. I would recommend optical internet in 99.99% of situations.
Good video! AT&T has yet to come My area to put in fiber. Fiber can handle a lot . I currently have AT&T internet access & it seems to do .fine . I had internet access from Spectrum cable formerly TWC . Time Warner Cable . They got to be too over priced. The speed wasn’t all that great.
Here's the deal I don't think the broadband company was able to provide you with faster upload speed or you have to ask for it. They often only care about the download speed and therefore they only quote you the download speed. But you were on the plan with the fiber internet company that gave you the same download and upload speed. In my situation my local fiber internet company had one with the higher download speed or one with the same speed mode upload and download and I chose that one.
What was the provider
Why does Google tell me I don't need a modem for fiber internet?
Also with having a stronger router u can get faster speeds and coverage in the house all in all good video
Actually light travels at 67% the speed of light through a fiber while RF travels at 87% speed of light through a coax main line, so actually the signal travels faster through coax than through fiber, look it up.
I notice the cable company installed a drop amp in the basement. That tells me the signal comes in weak and needs to be amplified to reach acceptable levels .
You really do not want gear that depends on cable and a chain of amps. A single fault or poor connection means problems. Even the cable company replaces cable with FTTH where I live. Less costs, less maintenance, better stability and cheaper to upgrade.
Upload speeds have always been slow compared to download speeds. It’s because there is more complex things behind it.
The problem is the assumption is that every cable network is the same configuration. I get 9ms ping times and have 170 mbps uploads on my cable. The current limit is 1.5gbps down.
This cable network was installed in probably the late 70s. A lot of the current limitations are because cable companies run multiple service styles on a network. A fiber GPON uses IP only and coax uses IP over modulated RF which is one more step that adds latency, plus they have broadcast information for older digital boxes. If the cable company ran IP only, then they can fully use the network for data and go pure IP. I haven't heard of anybody having an issue with 9ms ping vs 1ms ping. A cable system maxed out on the latest tech will do 10gig/6gig. Some will do 10gig/10gig using a different technique.
Since I know some more technical people with cable experience may be foaming at the mouth, my network is a 1.2ghz RPhy node with a mid split return and the OFDMA carrier is from 45-85mhz. I also have two OFDM carriers, one with a PLC at 350mhz and the other PLC is 920mhz. The system has not been segmented and has 350 modems on there. About 20 percent of the modems use the three 256QAM upstreams and one 64 QAM upstream and thirty two 256 QAM downstreams. If the system goes high split, the oldest digital boxes with a 129mhz FDC will go offline. If the system goes dual OFDMA return the 19mhz RDC for those boxes will also go offline. The 64 QAM cannot be 256 without killing the 19mhz RDC due to it's width. Some times the OFDMA is in the dirt beneath 19mhz on a 42mhz return.
Any new 1.2ghz areas have no more than 30 modems per port on a node with no actives. They will run at 1.8ghz if my crappy huge neighborhood network runs at 1.2ghz, with amps, on a 40 year old network.
Fiber GPON going in from a telco. Nobody cares. 170 upload is enough, 1.5 gig download is enough. Most houses have the modem shown in the video which means there is only one modem per house instead of 5 TV boxes (with modems) and an internet modem and a phone modem. All the new TV boxes are IP and don't use broadcast. Within months 500 up will be a reality.
Every cableco greenfield install is FTTH since 2012. Every new upgraded coax network is now going IP fed to the node. Every new node clamshell has the ability to swap out the RF module and install a GPON module. An AI combs the networks in 15 minute intervals and creates calls for any deviances so that they will be fixed before the customer sees it.
Not all cable companies are slow and stupid.
2:40 U said 35.4mbps upload speed, that's not very good your opinion😮. In Myanmar, we can only get 320kbps😢 for upload speed..😢😢😢
it also depend on location my house the fiber keeps going out so i decided to stick with cable for now i have 300 mbps plan and sometime get around 500
What can I do since where I live there is still only cable coming to the house. Would I be able to use a MoAC adapter connect the coax to it and then to the modem and make it faster?
Absolutely not. MoCA is only used as a last resort to using an existing coaxial cable as for means to create an 'ethernet based' network. MoCA uses even higher frequency bands than most cable providers will bring into your home. MoCA is only to be used within the SAME network in your home. That's it. You also are required to use a MoCA filter to trap the MoCA frequency from leaving your house. If you chose to use your modem to connect with a MoCA adapter that modem has to have the MoCA feature on it. MoCA is yet another overhead to convert RF to ethernet.
In my province there are two big internet companies, one of them has fiber and the other one doesn't. The Fiber one, boasts about how you can get 1000 MB download speed from their 1.5 GB internet bundle, I've done tests on this at a friend's house and it's true, it's pretty close, the other company recently apparently got fibreop, however this isn't true, they have fibreop running to an internet node in your area but, from that node to your house is still cable. For download speeds, both companies are pretty evenly matched. Look for upload speed. The fibreop wins hands down, and the company that uses cable only has a maximum upload speed of 15 MB. I'm not sure how this would affect you gaming wise, but I do know that if you stream a lot, it would probably affect you.
What cableco is that???
@@Todd.TEastlink it's a Canadian internet company internet in Canada Sucks ass especially in the maritimes
I switched to fiber so my livestreams actually hold up. Cable is horrible when it comes to uploads speeds. Well, it is on my block at least.
I have 2gbps fiber and usually see 5 or 6Gbps symmetric
Pretty amazing
For the same price I'm always picking the fastest however in my area you can get 2.5 gig up and down fiber for the Samer prices 1 gig with cable with the much slower upload speed. Needless to say I'm switching to fiber soon.
Fiber 10/10, every day we sync about 25GB of files for business purposes, the symmetrical speeds are a time saving.
I had Comcast cable Internet for years. Dropped them when AT&T installed fiber in my neighborhood. Have had AT&T for about six months now and it has been very unreliable. Very disappointed in it and I’m dropping it to go back to Comcast. Comcast definitely doesn’t have the fastest upload speeds through their cable, but at least their service is reliable.
I'd reach out to AT&T's support and have them check your fiber line. Fiber internet itself is reliable, but like everything there is bound to be some sort of issue somewhere, be it in the cable run, your AT&T gateway or elsewhere.
Greatest Inspiration and we need and wish real best 8K 60fps or 120fps HDR10+ resolution clarity quality for videos or photos and Sound in full HD 3D Stereo Surround , Soon Please
They came with fiber
Which gets converted to a coaxial which then goes to the modem then to ethernet
This did not make sense to me so I haven’t switched
Does anyone know why and what they are doing???
Its called RFOG. Radio Frequency Over Glass. It is sending the same radio frequency signals cable uses over fiber optic cable. It is another form of PON technology without retraining their staff. If they plan on switching to full fiber standards they just need to switch out the electronics, as RFOG networks are physically the same. This still has advantges of fiber cable, such as no interference.
Great video!
Some people don't have a choice. Comcast has a monopoly here in Baltimore.
I upgrading to fiber because wireless internet horrible I only able get 50 and sometimes buffering & picture on streaming tv get blurry. We getting fiber installed Thurs
any updates? still buffering and blurry?
I chose fiber optic because gigabit cable cost 10 dollars more, and wouldn't even give me a tenth of the upload speed, so there was no reason to really keep cable internet.