Surya was indeed judged unfairly for her routines and she was judged for her looks , not what they wanted to represent , the skating princess look....All the whining Tonya Harding did was bullshit, the only person that ruined it for Tonya was Tonya. Surya was not judged fairly ever and she laid down some amazing performances with powerful jumps ( when jumps were everything) and still lost to a skater that fell on a same jump .
Aspen Robinson Surya was robbed in the 1993 World’s. Sure, Oksana was as graceful as a swan, but she two footed several jumps and her spins were sloppy. Surya’s jumps were terrific, cleanly landed, and her spins remarkable. Likewise, Nancy Kerrigan was unfairly denied the gold at the 1994 Olympics in favor of the charming Baiul. Again, Baiul’s jumps were so unimpressive-two footed and she almost fell on one. Her spins were slow and traveled. She did a very simple combination at the end. Kerrigan, on the other hand, did several difficult combinations, all her jumps were clean and her spins difficult and centered. The judges marked Baiul way too high on technical - almost identical to Kerrigan’s - which was utterly ridiculous. That’s how Baiul won. Mary Scotfold, Kerrigan’s choreographer, said she felt the judges penalized Kerrigan for the Nancy-Tonya scandal - it “sullied the sport.” Which was utterly insane - Kerrigan had NOTHING to do with that - it was all Harding & her gang of hoodlums.
@@shimmeringfairydust3275 I agree COMPLETELY with everything you said . I feel the same as you do about the 1994 Olympics in Salt Lake..they didn't give it to Nancy because of the scandal. The only thing Nancy had to do with that attack wasunexpectedly getting smacked with a crow bar .
@@yohanes2034 not to mention the lady's head swoops down to about 10cm away from the ice at massive speeds. If the partner loosens his grip even just a little on the way down her skull will be crushed.... It's just way too scary
Surya Bonaly performed her backflip and landed on one foot because the ISU banned it when you landed on two feet. They did not think one would attempt it with one foot.
@@lisakwaterski6707 yes, the Bolero routine was exceptional. Torvill and Dean were truly amazing as an ice dancing pair. They basically put the sport on the map, as it were. It’s a shame that they (the powers that be) chose to ban the lying down on the ice move completely. I think it was very effective as an ending. But i also agree it got overused. I guess I’ll just have to go watch T&D again to get my fix! LOL
So what is the point? Regarding Surya’s backflip, she had tremendous experience doing so as a gymnast. She’s incredibly strong and skilled that she didn’t even fall during her backflip on the ice. She’s the only skater of her generation to do so, since with the men that is already slated to be overrated so it was extremely rare to see her land that backflip on one leg while Rory Flack landed it with the typical both feet, though not in competition like Surya did.
I love how they’re like, “we can’t do this during competition because it’s dangerous? Fine. WE WILL DO IT FOR FUN AND YOU DONT HAVE TO BE THERE, JUDGY MC SAFETY PANTS”
The pressure at a big competition makes you way more likely to fuck up than just a performance. Also I think the landing of things like a backflip would leave a big gash in the ice
even though the lying down isn't annoying it's just an aspect of dance and ice skating includes lots of dance. Like wow I lied down on the ice for emphasis now I've lost points like that sucks, ice skating is an art taking away something so small and un-harmful seems absurd.
@@Maddie-kk7pk I suspect that "dropping dead" during the performance may also be a safety hazard. You never know if something happened with the skater or is it just a part of the performance.
Human Resources skates arent THAT sharp lmao. You can easily carry them by the blade parts lol. But he definitely had to have pads bc adult woman around 60kg standing on your shoulders even without skates is not most comfortable thing ever. The edges of the scates are the sharp parts, not the middle. They are not shaped like knife lol :DD. I have done figure and synchronized skating for 12+ years trust me
@@AnakinS86 i think its because they said "sliced" rather then what itd most likely do which is "dig in" so to speak, because its not sjarp enough to slice it... i think, idk, im just judging that from other ice skaters
What's even more impressive is WHY Surya Bonaly did the backflip even though it was banned in competition. She has ruptured her achilles tendon the season prior and suffered permanent damage from it. She was unable to perfectly execute some of the 'legal' moves that she planned in her routine, like the triple lutzes everyone had become obsessed with at the time, so she decided to pop in a one-legged backflip instead. She lost out on medaling, but she gained more worldwide fans than ever and became one of the most talked-about athletes of the Olympics that year.
Right? The olympics were kinda boring anyway, watching a bunch of hoity toity types do the same stuff over and over. This opened my eyes to some legit acrobatics. Had me at the edge of my seat!
i learned that the reason why her move was banned because she was the only person who knew how to complete the tricks. EDIT: I never said if I was right or wrong, the only thing I said was that I learned. Keywords: "I Learned".
@@KaylaDame yeah but also because it's Hella fucking dangerous lmao. If it was legal athletes would start learning it and many more serious injuries would occur
@@KaylaDame lol no, it was because it's way too dangerous. You still have some little control on land, but on ice doing a backflip... That's calling for a head injury/paralysis so bad. It's a beautiful move, landing on her foot like that! But I'm also glad they banned it
She did that on purpose I believe. Since a Jump doesn't count in figure skating unless you land on one foot. So I think she tried to bend the rules by landing the back tuck on one foot. She did it so well too its amazing
That one is not the one I have an issue with because it takes skill and it looks great. None of the hands free looked good and the standing on the shoulders looked painful.
They often use the headbanger in Dancing on Ice on UK TV and sometimes there seems to be a push to be the first celebrity to include it in a routine. It's bad enough when it's a male pro-skater and a celebrity partner, but when it's a male celebrity holding a female pro skater it's terrifying. I'm sure there are plenty of viewers who love it, but I hate it.
I suspect the same thing...plus, they REALLY started to drag it out. Lik, if they had just sunk through the ice in the last seconds they most likely wouldn't have bothered. In exchange, we now get the skaters sinking down on the ice in relied when they realized that they managed a close to flawless performance. That's even more dramatic, but more fun to watch.
Bonaly performed the flip after some stumbles during her routine. She knew she was out of medal contention, so she wanted to go out with a bang for the audience. One of my favorite Olympic moments.
@@nyiayufardakamila4439 I mean normal lying down does not, but slides and such that technically use technique are also banned. You need to either touch the ice with your skates or not touch it at all.
My and my brother used to do that on the trampoline but you hold on to each other’s arms and we called it the twirly bird. We showed our dad and he never let us do it again 💀
It reminds me of that "iron lotus" move in the ice skating movie with Will Ferrell in it, "Blades of Glory". Made me wonder if anyone has ever tried it.
I was one of just two people in my country during my period of skating who could do a backflip at the time. I once did one at a major competition during the 6 minute warmup (the official warmup right before you compete your program) to show off for the ladies and have a bit of fun and initially, people thought it was funny. After I won the gold medal, however, the coaches of my competitors lobbied the judges and decision makers to have me disqualified and have my medal stripped from me for performing an illegal manoeuvre during competition. The judges got out the rule books and after a few hours of discussions came back and said they couldn’t find any rule stating that banned manoeuvres could not be performed during the official 6 minute warm up, so my 1st place position stood. Awesome memories.
Well, skating in ice shows can still be considered "figure skating" most of the time, but there is certainly a difference between competitive figure skating and skating in shows like exhibition galas or Stars on Ice
Yea, the laying on the ice thing got out of hand in the late eighties and early nineties. I remember when they banned it the president of the ISU said "If you need to lie down you should go home and go to bed."
The only illegal part was throwing the hat onto the ice. The "dress swap" is perfectly legal and even done by a lady skater (can't remember which one, sorry) this season :D
JUDGES: "If you're lying down you're not skating" SKATERS: *only lay down on the ice at the end of their routine for dramatic effect* JUDGES: "Their routine is over, but they layed down at the end. Disqualified!"
One thing not outlined, despite a video clip (which is 1984 Olympics) , is the first case of lying down internationally was Torvill and Dean at the 1984 Europeans. Many people criticized it, including iconic coach Tatiana Tarasova who tried to get it banned!! Lying down in competition stemmed from Torvill and Dean's perfect Bolero, many people just copied the idea of that.
KpopHooper No. They said it was banned because it wasn’t skating. And it also sounded like the judges were tired of every pair ending their routine that way. 😂
@@hazahae just like yuzuru in 2018... that hit and then his head bandaged like that 😵 and not to talk about that ankle that most have hurt some much! 😱
and land on one foot! I remember being a kid when she didn't do it in her actual competition but in practice would do it to intimidate her competitors and I LOVED it
it actually lessons when you can do any type of skating be it Ice, Inline or Quads, most things can be learned with practice, the really hard things will take some guts and some will take a natural talent, but this well within the range of human ability
Olympic skating is amazing, but my favorite experience watching figure skating was when I went to Disney on Ice where there were no illegal moves. They did so many amazing moves I’d never seen in the Olympics (like twirling the girl by her leg!) They used props and put on a fantastic show, and were allowed to be creative. In the Olympics there are so many rules, that many of the programs skaters do look so similar to each other.
Surya Bonaly not only did the backflip move in competition.....but she finished her program with her back facing the judges.....ANOTHER severe no-no and she was scored accordingly. I fell in love.
@@jadecoolness101 Oh, I hope you guys were joking about them taking points of because isn't there no wrong way to end, since it's just part of the choreography
@@callieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee no, you lose points for anything they deem as 'Bad' like doing certain flips, because elitist judges can't feel inferior to those they are judging from their pedestal. You must look to them and be obedient, or they chuck points off and punish you XD Competitive skating is a joke full of pettiness and pathetic judges.
Amy It makes sense tbh, as figure skaters we get point deductions for falling on the ground, so it would make sense that we aren’t allowed to lay down.
The Iron Lotus was perfected in North Korea. When done correctly, it can win any competition . Any slip, and decapitation can result. Sadly, this happened during the Blades of Glory event.
Nobody talks about it in the figureskating community. That's how banned it is. I once asked a figureskater and he turned pale, whispered 'we never had this conversation' and ran away. On toepicks.
I think the reason why lying down on purpose in the ice banned is because it's hard to differentiate it with lying down caused by injured. Can you imagine someone collapsed and you just standing there and stare because you think it's part of the routine?
@@jekicolin8036 Sometimes it isn't about "waiting a few seconds", sometimes when people get injuries they are urgent. A few seconds could cost someone their life.
@@jekicolin8036 Listen here, programs can be pretty dramatic at times, resulting in that people could easily mix it up. Would you take the risk? Personally, I wouldn't. Now, were talking about competitive pair skating, right? Do you have any prior knowledge of that? Just curious. Also, I was talking about that injuries can be dangerous, not that it was hard to distinguish falling vs doing it purposefully.
@ It is not a "stupid" rule to disallow laying down on the ice, it's made for the skaters own safety. I have quite a bit of experience in figure skating and I know how fast you may have to act at times. Someone could bleed out in thirty seconds, that's not a whole load of time. *Some* people may think that that is a part of the show. You also talked about that "figure skating is an art form", while it is, were talking about competitive skating, not show skating. You see, competitive skating is about showing skill, not who can lay on the ice the coolest way. There is a difference; show skating =/= competitive skating.
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@@jonaxoez I told you, it is impossible to mistake someone that fells and someone that acts, especialy on ice.The body becomes very tense when a person hit the ice and move like a worm because of the pain, if the person fell on the head his/her body will become soft and the muscles will be totaly relaxed, like someone who died. When you ''fall'' dramaticaly on the ice you don't hit the ice and you slowly lay down your head. The only way it can be dangerous to fall on the ice is if it is an accident, in that case it is just too obvious and there will be no mistaking nor delay.
Fyi, Show skaters are the same athletes who compete in every championships, the shows they give are usually opening or closing ceremonies before/after championships
@@Michizoechling no, actually they're not. There are lots of show skaters who quit competition to be professional skaters (like I did). Almost everyone I worked with were professional show skaters only (with the exception of 4 top competitive skaters that joined us for a few galas).
@@lindatannock yes, and there's some that are retired competitors who participate in shows, I just wanted to highlight for those that are non skaters that it isn't a completely separate thing cause the video doesn't make that clear
@Jay Byeon As someone said in another comment "Theres a difference between falling and lying down on ice One is voluntary, the other is an accident" But anyway, i think lying down on ice for ending poses should bem allowed, because at this point youre done with your skating portion of the program
I think there was an issue with Torvill and Dean, they wanted to use Ravel’s Bolero but couldn’t cut the music to fit with the routine time restriction so they worked around it by starting the routine on their knees for the first few counts. They didn’t have to cut the music as much and weren’t officially skating.
I think it’s overall about conformity, because it’s much harder to judge unique individuals than it is to judge a robot with a specific set of options.
I imagine if people begin trying to do really difficult and dangerous moves. They must not mess it up. One of the rules about learning to do a back flip is that if you don't get it quickly without landing on your head many times. You probably should stop trying to do it because, you will hurt yourself very badly. This goes for any acrobatic sport. If you get injured, you don't make it very far or last that long.
The judges might be close minded artistically but at least they care about not promoting dangerous (but awesome looking) moves in deperate competitions. Competition is so tough that any curb to dangerous moves is useful
I so loved watching Surya do backflips. She was just marvelous and so fun to see. I wish you had included the names of all the skaters because my memory is not what it used to be and I think it is only fair to the skaters if you use video of them to include their names.
As a skater for almost a decade now, most people hate lying on the ice. It's cold, you're sweating from performing, and if your sweating skin touches the cold ice? PAIN
I remember that one-foot backflip that skater did. I was in 5th grade when I saw that and I thought it was the coolest thing ever. I think if I remember right, she did it because she was retiring. That was her last Olympics and her very last performance and she'd already lost from an earlier slip-up, so she decided to go out with a bang. And she ended up with the move named after her. If social media like we have now had been a thing back then, this woman would have broken the internet and would have become the staple "Zero F*cks Given" GIF/meme. Everyone loved it. That was one of the best ways of making an exit I've ever seen.
Surya Bonaly from France. I still remember her name this many years later! She suspected racism for her low scores, so she said, "fuckit". I think she was very popular in touring shows after that.
Surya Bonaly is a true maverick (in the literal sense). "You won't judge me fairly because you're all white and racist, thus I'll just prove you can't even hold a candle to my performances."
Actually she did what she did because she was retiring and had made a slip-up earlier in her performance so decided to go out in a way people would remember her by.
??? It literally wasn't about race, the goddamn video just straight up explained that's a banned move, she would've gotten points removed even if she was white omg step out of Twitter bc not everything is about race
Don’t reduce her to your victimizing “everyone but black people is racist” I assure you that’s not what happened. Good performers are good performers don’t reduce her to her skin
It had nothing to do with being white or black , stop bringing race everywhere because of modern politics. Other black ice skaters performed accordingly to what the judges would prefer. It is a dangerous move and it was banned. For a reason - more would try it and get injured. Also the circumstances for her were different than other ice skaters.
Uhh what? what racism? Oh it pisses you off does it princess? Does the 'throwing the women around to see if their head hits the ice' ban piss you off too or do they need to all be black and the judges white for that to trigger you. And technicaly the backflip is far more dangerous.
It's a move that seems to come up when you least expect when people are skating - they'll make as if to do something else and then suddenly they'll be lying down! :D
I mean I guess they’re all for the skaters safety other than lying down that one is just fucking ridiculous. Reminds me of the ever increasingly strict UCI rules for cycling
@Muckin 4on bullshit hahahhahahhaha no way your whole careeer was based on laying down !!! theres no way that laying down was a crucial step in your routine.
Great video, I especially liked the rule that was not easily found in the rulebook. Most of the rules seen to be there for safety. "Playing dead" is potentially extremely dangerous because the medical aid cannot always tell if it's part of the choreography or not.
The ice contact would need to be far longer than any contact within a program: it's not liquid nitrogen! I think it's because costume bits come off much easier when they contact the ice and the cleanup could delay competitions: that why no more bunches of flowers being thrown.
skate blades are dull enough so if you pressed your finger against it, it wont cut you, the only time it would is if you are pushing and going at a certain speed. ice is really easy to mark so thats why you don't need much force to create a trail, you see when they do the back flip the ice breaks a bit, it just shows how delicate it is. human skin on the other hand isn't, when you cut a whole lettuce or anything but take lettuce for example, you apply force to the top of the knife to cut it in half, this doesn't cut you because the blade isn't sharp on the top side and your skin is rough enough to endure it.
@@kenmahyu Well, yes. It would be hard to skate properly, much less figure skating with dull blades. Guy probably had leather shoulder pads or something like that.
Love how in sports skating everything is "dangerous" while in show skating no one seems to care😂 Rules are needed though, but the lying on ice rule is so stupid.
I sort of understand it becuase if the person isn't actually skating they can't be awarded any points? Also if at the end of your routine you fall down you could just pretend that it was 'intentional' and 'artistic' so I understand why. If you have to skate all the time, if you do fall down it means it's on mistake.
Surya is amazing, I love that she still did the back flip despite it being banned. If you can do such an awesome move landing on one foot then you gotta show it off!
Don't watch "Dancing on ice" - seeing those moves performed by stars instead of pros made me really anxious (though I figured they would not have shown the videos if something went wrong)
Ex figure skater here - I used to perform headbangers in shows, so this was nostalgic! If you look, most of them actually bring their hands in to their faces when they get close to the ice. That way you'd hit your hands off the ice and not your head. And coaches usually make sure that your partner is a certain height taller than you so that the physics are in your favour. The hardest part was just sticking the landing (like the first one did). Still, it was my favourite move to perform. I remember the gasps of the audience when they first saw it as they always thought the first dip was a fall. But I was never dropped once!
As a child, I used to watch ice skating only at the Olympic games or bigger contests. Then I neglected it about years.. As I started again to watch, I was wondering what happened to the skills? Why are so many figures not shown? Now I know...
I remember hearing a rule stating that the athlete has a specific amount of seconds from when their music starts to play, to when they start to skate. Perhaps because of this strict time limit, there wouldn't be enough time to stand up from laying down, or to execute the transition in an artful way.
Evgenia medvedeva starts her sailor moon routine literally fake sleeping on the ice with a pillow and blanket and all. I think you’re allowed to start kneeling or laying down for the first few seconds, just not in the middle of your performance.
@@RobespierreThePoof well... the sport surprises us in many ways when it comes to technicality. Sometimes a fall and a step-out and a hand-down or turnout are.. just determined on the go by some judges and technical specialists. So a fall getting disguised as "lying down" might actually happen.
I remember being a child watching that thing where the guy grabs the girl's feet and spins her head within inches of the ice, and even then I was wondering how on earth that was allowed. Imagine how many women have been brained on the ice because of it 😨
Skaters are allowed to change costumes mid program, what is banned there was the hat falling on the ice. Here's a very recent example: th-cam.com/video/e3d6_PpyD_s/w-d-xo.html at 2:45
It makes sense. Like the costumes that fall on the ice may be made of fibers that can mess up the quality of the ice for the next skaters (the same reason why there are rules for the gifts you can throw on the ice after a skaters program). And the skater themselves could skate over a discarded piece of clothing and mess up their skate or get injured in the process. It does look really cool though.
Hm, I mostly listen to metal here on YT and apart from that I mostly watch Warhammer 40k stuff... I _really_ wonder why this was in my suggestions. The only connection I can see is that the jury might call an Exterminatus on every figure skater breaking those rules.
You left out Scott Hamilton who’s signature move is a back flip. He’s not just famous for being an amazing skater, he’s famous for how well he does back flips on ice!
Surya Bonaly remains the only figure skater to even attempt, let alone complete a one-foot landing backflip at the Olympics. There might not be many who could land it in competition today. Of course it was banned even when she did it but there was a long period that backflips were legal. She’s a legend of the sport and was an outlier in her time and not treated with the respect she she deserved.
The first person to do a backflip during competition was Terry Kubicka at the 1976 Olympics and it was banned later in 1976. Bonaly was only 3 years old.
@@Charlie-dv7ev I said the first one foot landing backflip. So yes, she remains the first and only to attempt and land that move. Terry Kubicka’s backflip was a hard two-foot landing. Surya purposefully landed using only one. A more difficult maneuver than Terry’s.
@@Charlie-dv7ev what exactly is your point? I literally said in my first post that the backflip was banned before she did it. Learn to read before you post.
*is 4am* TH-cam: "you want to see some banned moves in figure skating?" Me, having never had an interest in figure skating in my 25 years of life: "hmm yes this is pertinent information"
After it was made clear that most of the International judges were crooked, Surya Bonaly gave zero fucks what they thought. I loved seeing her put the back flips in her programs just to piss them off. Hahahaha!
In Surya’a last games, which I think were Lillehammer, she was fed up with the Kerrigan/Harding feud and when she fell, she knew she’d not win so she finished her career on her own terms.
Judges in Ice skating are known to be corrupted and judgemental. Recent Olympics, they allowed 15 girl who competing on international level to continue to compete despite testing positive for three drugs that increase person endurance, and stamina. The judges hated Surya because she wasn't your typical ice skating princess physique and took points from her when it wasn't needed.
@@somerandotacosomerandotaco9280 I think you have been watching too many movies and anime... They vaguely have an edge at best unless some psycho is putting a razor's edge on their skates.
if the base is strong and the flyer knows how to hold their body, it probably isn't that bad. painful but not unbearable or damaging, bc the blades are not actually sharp. (i am an acrobat not a skater, but i how how it feels to have bodyweight resting on a single, tiny point of contact that does not typically bear weight)
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Surya landing the backflip on one foot + 3S is such a power move.
Who think backflips are more dangerous than headbanger? Because if someone fell, he would injured his head severely.
Surya was indeed judged unfairly for her routines and she was judged for her looks , not what they wanted to represent , the skating princess look....All the whining Tonya Harding did was bullshit, the only person that ruined it for Tonya was Tonya. Surya was not judged fairly ever and she laid down some amazing performances with powerful jumps ( when jumps were everything) and still lost to a skater that fell on a same jump .
Aspen Robinson Surya was robbed in the 1993 World’s. Sure, Oksana was as graceful as a swan, but she two footed several jumps and her spins were sloppy. Surya’s jumps were terrific, cleanly landed, and her spins remarkable. Likewise, Nancy Kerrigan was unfairly denied the gold at the 1994 Olympics in favor of the charming Baiul. Again, Baiul’s jumps were so unimpressive-two footed and she almost fell on one. Her spins were slow and traveled. She did a very simple combination at the end. Kerrigan, on the other hand, did several difficult combinations, all her jumps were clean and her spins difficult and centered. The judges marked Baiul way too high on technical - almost identical to Kerrigan’s - which was utterly ridiculous. That’s how Baiul won. Mary Scotfold, Kerrigan’s choreographer, said she felt the judges penalized Kerrigan for the Nancy-Tonya scandal - it “sullied the sport.” Which was utterly insane - Kerrigan had NOTHING to do with that - it was all Harding & her gang of hoodlums.
@@shimmeringfairydust3275 I agree COMPLETELY with everything you said . I feel the same as you do about the 1994 Olympics in Salt Lake..they didn't give it to Nancy because of the scandal. The only thing Nancy had to do with that attack wasunexpectedly getting smacked with a crow bar .
Aspen Robinson Exactly! And Surya was robbed in 1993!
The headbanger is so frigging scary I don't understand how anyone would agree to do that
I cringe watching the headbanger, imagine when doing that the man's hands slip. The partner could be thrown away at high speed.
@@yohanes2034 not to mention the lady's head swoops down to about 10cm away from the ice at massive speeds. If the partner loosens his grip even just a little on the way down her skull will be crushed.... It's just way too scary
@@Edward-W yeah not worth it in my opinion. I won't enjoy seeing it if I keep on thinking of scary things that might happen.
I was just at Disney on ice and they had that in the show. so scary.
My stomach knots up every time I see it.
The headbanger is so goddamn terrifying, what happens if they slip and let go??? Team Rocket is blasting off again?
imagine if they tried that in competition and he dropped her and she flew right into the judges
@@Biofreak659 That's what they get for not doing their job right
@@ggobugi13 yuna goes into pairs and does this but with a knife
@@Biofreak659 ugh artistic genius banksy could never
Watch UKs Dancing on Ice with Torvill and Dean - celebs paired with pros and there's been lots of headbangers with amazingly few injuries!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Surya Bonaly performed her backflip and landed on one foot because the ISU banned it when you landed on two feet. They did not think one would attempt it with one foot.
ISU: Thou shalt not perform a backflip and land on two feet.
Surya Bonaly: Hold my beer.
Lmao that info is just vital to understand how girlboss that moment must have been lol
I had no idea... she was amazing to watch.
She took smart to a whole other level. Amazing.
She clearly learned how to read rules from Smokey Yunick.
TH-cam reccomemdations: illegal figure skating techniques
Me: oh okay guess we're doing this now
Reccomemdations
You gotta know this info for when you inevitably get into ice skating
me: just in case
Lol that was my reaction too. I’ve never watch Figure Skating
This is just what happened to me lol
Six minutes of why women get so many head injuries in pairs skating
Excellent video!
but then there's Paul Binnebose (look him up if not familiar)
@@watcherwlc53 D: poor guy
Ironically I got a concussion when I was 19 from synchronized skating
Watcher WLC aw poor thing :(
{} the irony
The "Headbanger" one just gives me anxiety
The name literally speaks for itself
You really have to trust your partner lol
I can never watch it.... I keep flinching in fear.
Ugh same I can’t even look 😫
Human equivalent of hammer throwing...
So the judges just got tired of dramatic “i died” endings with people laying on ice lololol
Just like how the public was outraged when Stravinsky's Rite of Spring was first performed!
@@lisakwaterski6707 yes, the Bolero routine was exceptional. Torvill and Dean were truly amazing as an ice dancing pair. They basically put the sport on the map, as it were. It’s a shame that they (the powers that be) chose to ban the lying down on the ice move completely. I think it was very effective as an ending. But i also agree it got overused. I guess I’ll just have to go watch T&D again to get my fix! LOL
Can't they get stuck to the ice??
But why did the music start playing when the performance wasn't started yet (since the blades did not touch the ground)
So what is the point? Regarding Surya’s backflip, she had tremendous experience doing so as a gymnast. She’s incredibly strong and skilled that she didn’t even fall during her backflip on the ice. She’s the only skater of her generation to do so, since with the men that is already slated to be overrated so it was extremely rare to see her land that backflip on one leg while Rory Flack landed it with the typical both feet, though not in competition like Surya did.
I love how they’re like, “we can’t do this during competition because it’s dangerous? Fine. WE WILL DO IT FOR FUN AND YOU DONT HAVE TO BE THERE, JUDGY MC SAFETY PANTS”
Haha I think it’s to prevent people taking unnecessary risks to get ahead in competitions
Ai A yeah you right 😂
The pressure at a big competition makes you way more likely to fuck up than just a performance. Also I think the landing of things like a backflip would leave a big gash in the ice
@@BalletTapJazz thats why they are called professional cause they can do shit that makes everyone else break their ass
*Proceeds to break back by laying down in the ice*
I love that it’s all these wild moves then a ban on laying down on ice
Illegal moves. 1. Reason: safety hazard. 2. Reason: safety hazard. 3. Reason: extremely annoying.
Ikr? I'll have to totally rethink my harp seal routine
even though the lying down isn't annoying it's just an aspect of dance and ice skating includes lots of dance. Like wow I lied down on the ice for emphasis now I've lost points like that sucks, ice skating is an art taking away something so small and un-harmful seems absurd.
@@Maddie-kk7pk I suspect that "dropping dead" during the performance may also be a safety hazard. You never know if something happened with the skater or is it just a part of the performance.
The people who banned these moves is a real (cold) person😂.
Oof when the woman stood on the mans shoulders I could feel her blades digging into my shoulders
canary hopefully he was wearing them...
Human Resources skates arent THAT sharp lmao. You can easily carry them by the blade parts lol. But he definitely had to have pads bc adult woman around 60kg standing on your shoulders even without skates is not most comfortable thing ever. The edges of the scates are the sharp parts, not the middle. They are not shaped like knife lol :DD. I have done figure and synchronized skating for 12+ years trust me
Choke me daddy Thanos I don’t think anyone was arguing they were knife sharp.
I personally had a random guy step on my leg while ice skating, it's extremely painfull but, it didn't slice through
@@AnakinS86 i think its because they said "sliced" rather then what itd most likely do which is "dig in" so to speak, because its not sjarp enough to slice it... i think, idk, im just judging that from other ice skaters
What's even more impressive is WHY Surya Bonaly did the backflip even though it was banned in competition. She has ruptured her achilles tendon the season prior and suffered permanent damage from it. She was unable to perfectly execute some of the 'legal' moves that she planned in her routine, like the triple lutzes everyone had become obsessed with at the time, so she decided to pop in a one-legged backflip instead. She lost out on medaling, but she gained more worldwide fans than ever and became one of the most talked-about athletes of the Olympics that year.
Right? The olympics were kinda boring anyway, watching a bunch of hoity toity types do the same stuff over and over. This opened my eyes to some legit acrobatics. Had me at the edge of my seat!
i dont understand, if its illegal to land in 2 legs why they dont accept her one leg landing ?
@@pigeonramier6898 Basically, because they could.
So basically, “I know I can’t win the medal like this, but I can at least win the crowd”
Judges: you know, we got tired of having to clean blood off the ice so can you stop trying to kill yourselves now?
Show skaters: n o
lol
Show skaters: Yeah, well... I'm gonna go build my own ice sport! with blackjack! and hookers!
Cleaners: **COUGH COUGH** UM- EXCUSE ME? I DID THAT-
0:25 cool fact: Surya Bonaly is the only skater to ever do a backflip, split in air and land on one foot. Ugh I love her.
Cirque du Soleil?
i learned that the reason why her move was banned because she was the only person who knew how to complete the tricks.
EDIT: I never said if I was right or wrong, the only thing I said was that I learned. Keywords: "I Learned".
@@KaylaDame yeah but also because it's Hella fucking dangerous lmao. If it was legal athletes would start learning it and many more serious injuries would occur
@@KaylaDame lol no, it was because it's way too dangerous. You still have some little control on land, but on ice doing a backflip... That's calling for a head injury/paralysis so bad. It's a beautiful move, landing on her foot like that! But I'm also glad they banned it
She did that on purpose I believe. Since a Jump doesn't count in figure skating unless you land on one foot. So I think she tried to bend the rules by landing the back tuck on one foot. She did it so well too its amazing
that "headbanger" thing is just plain stupid and I see why its banned wtf.
That one is not the one I have an issue with because it takes skill and it looks great. None of the hands free looked good and the standing on the shoulders looked painful.
Not in The Cutting Edge lol
What's real stupid was standing on partners shoulders, like you're not wearing nives on your feet
The headbanger looks impressive but makes total sense to ban it.
They often use the headbanger in Dancing on Ice on UK TV and sometimes there seems to be a push to be the first celebrity to include it in a routine. It's bad enough when it's a male pro-skater and a celebrity partner, but when it's a male celebrity holding a female pro skater it's terrifying. I'm sure there are plenty of viewers who love it, but I hate it.
This is a really well-made video, no ads, no intro, just straight to the point
welcome to old youtube
About that lying down thing...
Judges were probably just tired of everyone being super extra drama queens about it 🤣🤣
I suspect the same thing...plus, they REALLY started to drag it out. Lik, if they had just sunk through the ice in the last seconds they most likely wouldn't have bothered. In exchange, we now get the skaters sinking down on the ice in relied when they realized that they managed a close to flawless performance. That's even more dramatic, but more fun to watch.
It was all so tacky
I am wondering, who can be a judge? At least can they ice skate? :D
It was about chemicals used on the floor of the artificial ice platform.
@@csocseszrocsesz i assume that they were prof skaters too
I have no idea why I’m watching this as someone who doesn’t do or watch ice skating but it’s actually really interesting 😂
Midnight Fandoms I dont either and i am actually enjoying these types of videos!
Midnight Fandoms
Same 😂😂
Midnight Fandoms me too
Midnight Fandoms same xD
Pfft I watch Yuri on ice that counts
Ok yeah I'm glad they banned the "swinging women around to see if their head hits the ice" move.
Hey gurl, I'm just trying to...break the ice B)
Hey, at any time the female could've done that to her partner. Now that would be something to see!
It's cool to watch roller bladers do that
😂 I laughed so hard on this comment.
Im carrying that tho
Bonaly performed the flip after some stumbles during her routine. She knew she was out of medal contention, so she wanted to go out with a bang for the audience. One of my favorite Olympic moments.
“If you’re lying down, you aren’t skating”
Well if you’re airborne you’re not exactly skating either but I guess they don’t care about that.
uh lying down not using any technic . so its not skating .
well fuck you then but I guess you already do that with your hand.
If it’s the ending pose, you’re done skating anyway. I never got that.
Nyiayu Farda Kamila
Excuse me, but I have been perfecting my lying down technique for decades
@@nyiayufardakamila4439 I mean normal lying down does not, but slides and such that technically use technique are also banned. You need to either touch the ice with your skates or not touch it at all.
I’d think if any element was banned it would be fire
that made me cackle
Noice
Catherine Grace lolol
HA
I hate that i laughed
The headbanger is terrifying tbh it looks like there gonna crack there head open on the ice.
and they can fuck up the landing too with all that momentum dayum
Hence the name, head banger.
Peep the name: headbanger
My and my brother used to do that on the trampoline but you hold on to each other’s arms and we called it the twirly bird. We showed our dad and he never let us do it again 💀
It reminds me of that "iron lotus" move in the ice skating movie with Will Ferrell in it, "Blades of Glory". Made me wonder if anyone has ever tried it.
I was one of just two people in my country during my period of skating who could do a backflip at the time. I once did one at a major competition during the 6 minute warmup (the official warmup right before you compete your program) to show off for the ladies and have a bit of fun and initially, people thought it was funny. After I won the gold medal, however, the coaches of my competitors lobbied the judges and decision makers to have me disqualified and have my medal stripped from me for performing an illegal manoeuvre during competition. The judges got out the rule books and after a few hours of discussions came back and said they couldn’t find any rule stating that banned manoeuvres could not be performed during the official 6 minute warm up, so my 1st place position stood. Awesome memories.
I never knew there was a difference from figure skating and show skating. I thought it was all figure skating...
Shows what I know
Well, skating in ice shows can still be considered "figure skating" most of the time, but there is certainly a difference between competitive figure skating and skating in shows like exhibition galas or Stars on Ice
Yuzutea
Thank you for the info!
In general a lot of things are split between sports and show. Like real wrestling vs WWE, or girls at the strip club vs pole dancing competitions.
@@keiromultiverse3608 tru
Blossoming Fairies
Ikr
Yea, the laying on the ice thing got out of hand in the late eighties and early nineties. I remember when they banned it the president of the ISU said "If you need to lie down you should go home and go to bed."
So close minded
"Got out of hand" in what sense?
@@Queotracosamariposa i think in the sense that EVERYONE did it.
ahahahahahaa
I imagine it was done partly because it was "not skating", but mostly because the judges were so sick of it 😂
5:40 This might be banned but this girl did such an amazing clothes change
Exactly
The only illegal part was throwing the hat onto the ice. The "dress swap" is perfectly legal and even done by a lady skater (can't remember which one, sorry) this season :D
@@Stormchantress I googled it, it was Anna Shcherbakova in 2019
xfroz anna pogorilaya
Kikaylisa both, and they also aren’t the only 2
Surya's flip was an epic display of sheer athleticism. I was instantly inspired by her "F.Y." to the olympic board.
Not the Olympic board. the ISU.
JUDGES: "If you're lying down you're not skating"
SKATERS: *only lay down on the ice at the end of their routine for dramatic effect*
JUDGES: "Their routine is over, but they layed down at the end. Disqualified!"
I think it was just a reason they came up with because it is a goofy, trite move and they were sick of watching it every routine.
J A D though, they would just get points deducted but I see what chu mean. It’s understandable at the beginning but not at the end of a routine
One thing not outlined, despite a video clip (which is 1984 Olympics) , is the first case of lying down internationally was Torvill and Dean at the 1984 Europeans. Many people criticized it, including iconic coach Tatiana Tarasova who tried to get it banned!! Lying down in competition stemmed from Torvill and Dean's perfect Bolero, many people just copied the idea of that.
Literary makes no sense
J A D exactly!
Banned elements are dangerous.
No 3: Lying down on ice.
I actually can see why this is banned cause it can be taken as them having been hurt 🤔
KpopHooper No. They said it was banned because it wasn’t skating. And it also sounded like the judges were tired of every pair ending their routine that way. 😂
KpopHooper not much will happen if they are hurt tho they’ll have to continue the show must go on that’s what they are taught
@@hazahae just like yuzuru in 2018... that hit and then his head bandaged like that 😵 and not to talk about that ankle that most have hurt some much! 😱
The figure skating version of a DJ turning off the power on the turntable.
How about sitting, how about all fours... handstands?
OKAY BUT WHY ISNT ANYONE TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSITION AT 5:40?? THATS WAS COOL AS HELL
That's crazyly amazing
YES!!!! Anna Pogorilaya!
I KNOW AAAAAA
That was so smooth I feckin missed it and had to go back and find it LOL
ik ! i was like dang ! that was super impressive
I love how when she does the banned black flip she totally owns it and smiles without giving any care to what the judges will say
Me: *Needs to go to sleep really badly*
TH-cam: "Do you wanna see illegal moves in figure skating?"
Me: "Hell yeah fam, give it to me."
I was NOT dissapointed
4am: Really should go to bed now-ooooh ice skating!
I need too be awake in 3 hours for a 12 hour shift 😭
Me: so this is what my coaches are hiding from me
Popped up like 5 times in my suggestions! After watching the video, I'm still still wondering why 😄
The fact that anyone could do a backflip on ice skates blows my mind
and land on one foot! I remember being a kid when she didn't do it in her actual competition but in practice would do it to intimidate her competitors and I LOVED it
I've tried to jump on roller blades and had difficulty.
And then land on one skate.....mind blown🤯
Not just on ice skates but I’m ice skate ON ICE! So scary.
Backflipping isn't technically difficult, but they are extremely dangerous.
Hence why middleschoolers with ADHD can always do standing backflips.
my anxiety while this compilation is playing 📈📈📈
it actually lessons when you can do any type of skating be it Ice, Inline or Quads, most things can be learned with practice, the really hard things will take some guts and some will take a natural talent, but this well within the range of human ability
Same sis
These videos just make my urge to learn figure skating grow-
But it's expensive
how is the removing of clothing more anxiety inducing than a fucking backflip on ice
@@bebanxd1074 oh right I kinda am
Olympic skating is amazing, but my favorite experience watching figure skating was when I went to Disney on Ice where there were no illegal moves. They did so many amazing moves I’d never seen in the Olympics (like twirling the girl by her leg!) They used props and put on a fantastic show, and were allowed to be creative. In the Olympics there are so many rules, that many of the programs skaters do look so similar to each other.
Winter Olympics: *"Sorry, we dont sell horror movie tickets"*
Lol 😂
the second make me scream the whole section
Lol the fact that this comment have so many likes and now it's 3 comments only lol
Surya Bonaly not only did the backflip move in competition.....but she finished her program with her back facing the judges.....ANOTHER severe no-no and she was scored accordingly. I fell in love.
Became a legend.
Wait your not supposed to end with back to judged?
@@callieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee no, they're elitists and need to feel worshipped.
@@jadecoolness101 Oh, I hope you guys were joking about them taking points of because isn't there no wrong way to end, since it's just part of the choreography
@@callieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee no, you lose points for anything they deem as 'Bad' like doing certain flips, because elitist judges can't feel inferior to those they are judging from their pedestal. You must look to them and be obedient, or they chuck points off and punish you XD
Competitive skating is a joke full of pettiness and pathetic judges.
I didn't know lying down was banned. That's a bit excessive tbh
Amy It makes sense tbh, as figure skaters we get point deductions for falling on the ground, so it would make sense that we aren’t allowed to lay down.
CBS did a funny fluff piece about the "dying on the ice" trope that showed just how overdone it had become! th-cam.com/video/EZGbGhlHTjY/w-d-xo.html
4:15 Klimova and Ponomarenko at the 1992 Olympics. Gorgeous performance. th-cam.com/video/X4LnD0laELk/w-d-xo.html
Tracymmo Yes, so dramatic and captivating. I loved every moment of their performance.
@@leahlu1174 I think they don't like moves where skates are not on the ice (even in lifts, the guy has his skates on the ice)
The Iron Lotus was perfected in North Korea. When done correctly, it can win any competition . Any slip, and decapitation can result. Sadly, this happened during the Blades of Glory event.
I hope you're kidding, the iron lotus is a fictional move made up for the movie blades of glory
Hoooooly shit, that's insane.
The decapitations where the main reason for banning wrong hold lifts I understand.
Nobody talks about it in the figureskating community. That's how banned it is. I once asked a figureskater and he turned pale, whispered 'we never had this conversation' and ran away. On toepicks.
I remember that accident…so tragic.
😂❤
I think the reason why lying down on purpose in the ice banned is because it's hard to differentiate it with lying down caused by injured. Can you imagine someone collapsed and you just standing there and stare because you think it's part of the routine?
normaida simanjuntak I mean people would be able to tell within seconds but
@@jekicolin8036 Sometimes it isn't about "waiting a few seconds", sometimes when people get injuries they are urgent. A few seconds could cost someone their life.
@@jekicolin8036 Listen here, programs can be pretty dramatic at times, resulting in that people could easily mix it up. Would you take the risk? Personally, I wouldn't. Now, were talking about competitive pair skating, right? Do you have any prior knowledge of that? Just curious. Also, I was talking about that injuries can be dangerous, not that it was hard to distinguish falling vs doing it purposefully.
@ It is not a "stupid" rule to disallow laying down on the ice, it's made for the skaters own safety. I have quite a bit of experience in figure skating and I know how fast you may have to act at times. Someone could bleed out in thirty seconds, that's not a whole load of time. *Some* people may think that that is a part of the show. You also talked about that "figure skating is an art form", while it is, were talking about competitive skating, not show skating. You see, competitive skating is about showing skill, not who can lay on the ice the coolest way. There is a difference; show skating =/= competitive skating.
@@jonaxoez I told you, it is impossible to mistake someone that fells and someone that acts, especialy on ice.The body becomes very tense when a person hit the ice and move like a worm because of the pain, if the person fell on the head his/her body will become soft and the muscles will be totaly relaxed, like someone who died. When you ''fall'' dramaticaly on the ice you don't hit the ice and you slowly lay down your head.
The only way it can be dangerous to fall on the ice is if it is an accident, in that case it is just too obvious and there will be no mistaking nor delay.
Judges: We’ve banned this move. You can’t do it anymore
Show skaters: this sign can’t stop me because I can’t read!
Fyi, Show skaters are the same athletes who compete in every championships, the shows they give are usually opening or closing ceremonies before/after championships
Probably cuase they got there head bashed in too many times with a headbanger
Too busy gliding on ice, you’ll have to read it out for me 😌 but too the music is so loud
@@Michizoechling no, actually they're not. There are lots of show skaters who quit competition to be professional skaters (like I did). Almost everyone I worked with were professional show skaters only (with the exception of 4 top competitive skaters that joined us for a few galas).
@@lindatannock yes, and there's some that are retired competitors who participate in shows, I just wanted to highlight for those that are non skaters that it isn't a completely separate thing cause the video doesn't make that clear
the lying down one is kinda dumb,, it's not like they're lying on the ice for the whole time
@Jay Byeon As someone said in another comment
"Theres a difference between falling and lying down on ice
One is voluntary, the other is an accident"
But anyway, i think lying down on ice for ending poses should bem allowed, because at this point youre done with your skating portion of the program
Well... there might be a case where a skater didnt lie down on purpose and lied that they did do it on purpose to save themselves from losing a point
I think there was an issue with Torvill and Dean, they wanted to use Ravel’s Bolero but couldn’t cut the music to fit with the routine time restriction so they worked around it by starting the routine on their knees for the first few counts. They didn’t have to cut the music as much and weren’t officially skating.
Maybe some people lie on the ice to relax or ease up a bit thats why they being strict
It's not like traveling in the NBA where it's legal and illegal at the same time.
Surya Bonaly, greatest of all time, criminally underrated
Ok so literally every move from blades of glory was illegal
Thats exactly what I thought of
I knew something was just as little off!
reminds me in the karate kid where he lobs the guy's head off with a klick like 'wait i thought that was an illegal move?'
666th like . nice
that was the joke mate
I can't imagine how many people have gotten seriously injured or died trying to do these moves
I think it’s overall about conformity, because it’s much harder to judge unique individuals than it is to judge a robot with a specific set of options.
@@DisabledPsychedelica this is correct. thank you for being sane.
I imagine if people begin trying to do really difficult and dangerous moves. They must not mess it up. One of the rules about learning to do a back flip is that if you don't get it quickly without landing on your head many times. You probably should stop trying to do it because, you will hurt yourself very badly. This goes for any acrobatic sport. If you get injured, you don't make it very far or last that long.
I don’t think any have died
@@DisabledPsychedelica "Unique individuals?" Give me a break. Let's use samuri swords as props. That would be so unique.
Judges: banned the element of the competition
Skating show: hahahaha, you have no power here
Lol, Lotr? Or am I the only one who thinks this?
The judges might be close minded artistically but at least they care about not promoting dangerous (but awesome looking) moves in deperate competitions. Competition is so tough that any curb to dangerous moves is useful
In many cases I can understand the judges. Some of the moves are really dangerous, others make it difficult to judge a performance.
I so loved watching Surya do backflips. She was just marvelous and so fun to see. I wish you had included the names of all the skaters because my memory is not what it used to be and I think it is only fair to the skaters if you use video of them to include their names.
I invented my own move that everyone can do on its first try called "Slip."
Yato Yaboku followed by The Split Chin. They really should introduce those moves.
@@virginiaviola5097 welcome to the new winter Olympic event artistic skate falling
Not to brag but I’m a pro at that move 😎👌
My speciality so far
I can do that even without ice skating do i need to write stuff down for copyright?
The only banned move I could do is "Lay on the Ice".
🤣🤣
The only banned move I would do... Screw that head banger crap. LOL.
As a skater for almost a decade now, most people hate lying on the ice. It's cold, you're sweating from performing, and if your sweating skin touches the cold ice? PAIN
can do that and take off a jacket XD
Same here! We are gods
I remember that one-foot backflip that skater did. I was in 5th grade when I saw that and I thought it was the coolest thing ever. I think if I remember right, she did it because she was retiring. That was her last Olympics and her very last performance and she'd already lost from an earlier slip-up, so she decided to go out with a bang. And she ended up with the move named after her. If social media like we have now had been a thing back then, this woman would have broken the internet and would have become the staple "Zero F*cks Given" GIF/meme. Everyone loved it. That was one of the best ways of making an exit I've ever seen.
It really is incredibly fierce
The fact that she never won gold at the Olympics for revolutionizing skating in the '90s is a crime.
Thanks for the extra background info!
It’s called a layout
Surya Bonaly from France. I still remember her name this many years later! She suspected racism for her low scores, so she said, "fuckit". I think she was very popular in touring shows after that.
Surya Bonaly is a true maverick (in the literal sense). "You won't judge me fairly because you're all white and racist, thus I'll just prove you can't even hold a candle to my performances."
Actually she did what she did because she was retiring and had made a slip-up earlier in her performance so decided to go out in a way people would remember her by.
??? It literally wasn't about race, the goddamn video just straight up explained that's a banned move, she would've gotten points removed even if she was white omg step out of Twitter bc not everything is about race
Don’t reduce her to your victimizing “everyone but black people is racist” I assure you that’s not what happened. Good performers are good performers don’t reduce her to her skin
It had nothing to do with being white or black , stop bringing race everywhere because of modern politics. Other black ice skaters performed accordingly to what the judges would prefer. It is a dangerous move and it was banned. For a reason - more would try it and get injured.
Also the circumstances for her were different than other ice skaters.
Uhh what? what racism? Oh it pisses you off does it princess?
Does the 'throwing the women around to see if their head hits the ice' ban piss you off too or do they need to all be black and the judges white for that to trigger you.
And technicaly the backflip is far more dangerous.
5:40 was actually so impressive and perfectly done with the music.
Anna Pogorilaya / Rise Like A Phoenix
Yeeees
I think I’ve done “laying down on ice” a lot of times before- though I’m not an incredible scatter I’ve been able to do it easily
It's a move that seems to come up when you least expect when people are skating - they'll make as if to do something else and then suddenly they'll be lying down! :D
scatter lmao
Imagine being the last act that causes a move to be banned
I mean I guess they’re all for the skaters safety other than lying down that one is just fucking ridiculous. Reminds me of the ever increasingly strict UCI rules for cycling
@Muckin 4on bullshit hahahhahahhaha no way your whole careeer was based on laying down !!! theres no way that laying down was a crucial step in your routine.
Headbanger: exists
My heart rate: 📈
Mine too
Same
same my anxiety📈
My heart rate : Stonks !
Matthias Darrington dang it you beat me to the joke by three hours
0:04 Backflips
1:14 Lifts with Wrong Holds (pairs)
3:35 Lying down in the ice
4:57 Using Props
5:37 Any part of costume detaching
Oh my gosh you know Chungha? And yikes watching most of the banned moves gave me a huge anxiety.
Snapping in the intro 🙌
Are you a fellow ARMY?
Omg I didn't even notice. Good one. 😉
@@jessicakrogh9353 yee
Omg I live for kpop
Wow we get everywhere i love it 😂
me: “it’s 3am, i should go to sleep”
youtube: *5 illegal moves in figure skating*
me (having no interest in skating my whole life): HELL YEAH
Same
Mood
Me rn at 3 am literally
It's 3am here and I'm doing the same thing.
Mishumydog me too! But it is 2:00 am
the fact that the tv show Dancing On Ice lets celebrities who have just learned how to skate do the headbanger on live tv is insane to me
I’m sorry WHAT?
They do WHAT
LMAOOO WAIT WHAT
You were saying WHAT?
wot?
Great video, I especially liked the rule that was not easily found in the rulebook. Most of the rules seen to be there for safety. "Playing dead" is potentially extremely dangerous because the medical aid cannot always tell if it's part of the choreography or not.
Not to mention the risk of burns from contact with the ice
The ice contact would need to be far longer than any contact within a program: it's not liquid nitrogen! I think it's because costume bits come off much easier when they contact the ice and the cleanup could delay competitions: that why no more bunches of flowers being thrown.
@@mattfn it was because judges got sick and tired of awarding points to yet another skater dramatically dying at the end of a programme.
1:19 the fucking trust you need to have
👏you👏are👏risking👏your👏life👏so👏if👏your👏partner👏messes👏up👏you👏is👏dead👏meat👏
fr like imagine if he slips and her head goes bashing against the floor. so dangerous
@@yourmum9030 yeah ikr- like wow you realllllyyy trust your partner ;_;
AND PRACTICE
And courage!
I can't imagine trusting someone not to drop me
nik nak 420
kind of want to see a routine of someone just lying on their stomach and sliding around now
Andrew V. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
seal-inspired
Yaas
With props?
penguins :)
They always land from the lift so smoothly and I love seeing that transition from being held to skating on their own.
1:41
these gave me so much anxiety that the girls head was gonna bang on the floor
"Standing on your partner's shoulders."
Ah yes.. Just casually chopping off my partner's arms.. Don't mind me.
Skate blades don't work like that
skate blades are dull enough so if you pressed your finger against it, it wont cut you, the only time it would is if you are pushing and going at a certain speed. ice is really easy to mark so thats why you don't need much force to create a trail, you see when they do the back flip the ice breaks a bit, it just shows how delicate it is. human skin on the other hand isn't, when you cut a whole lettuce or anything but take lettuce for example, you apply force to the top of the knife to cut it in half, this doesn't cut you because the blade isn't sharp on the top side and your skin is rough enough to endure it.
@@kenmahyu A good skate blade is definitely not dull and would definitely cut your finger.
@@felixar90 yeah but do you think they would use a sharp blade during the performance if they were going to do that trick?
@@kenmahyu Well, yes. It would be hard to skate properly, much less figure skating with dull blades. Guy probably had leather shoulder pads or something like that.
Love how in sports skating everything is "dangerous" while in show skating no one seems to care😂
Rules are needed though, but the lying on ice rule is so stupid.
I sort of understand it becuase if the person isn't actually skating they can't be awarded any points? Also if at the end of your routine you fall down you could just pretend that it was 'intentional' and 'artistic' so I understand why. If you have to skate all the time, if you do fall down it means it's on mistake.
It’s also a bit harder to get hurt in thick snow compared to solid ice
@@the9657 Its "show" not "snow" skating
@@vulpine3431 Though... in snow skating, the lying pose would be the only practical one
Figure skating as a sport has to maintain an image. I imagine that these risky moves might lead to gruesome injuries and therefore be no-nos
Surya is amazing, I love that she still did the back flip despite it being banned. If you can do such an awesome move landing on one foot then you gotta show it off!
Surya Bonaly: lands a backflip on one foot while ice skating
Me: can't even do a handstand
I can’t even do a cartwheel
And then she does it *and goes into a spin* 😵
it was legal because the rules stated you couldn't land on two feet
That last backflip was a signal to the judges that she felt she had nothing left to lose.
Surya used to fall a lot on the jumps so she tries to make up for it by doing the backflips but it was never enough.
why is none talking about this tho:
4:37 "start of the competition and he already has one point deduction" yuzuru said: screw your rules :D
Yuzuru don't even need to worry about that. He regularly churns out god tier scores xD
Yuzuru is like screw the rules, I'm going to be graceful
He's such an awesome athlete he says screw your deduction this is my art!
It likely wasn’t a competition but a show.
There is no deduction in gala, wait, are you aware that was gala ?
The headbanger one literally gives me so much anxiety
Don't watch "Dancing on ice" - seeing those moves performed by stars instead of pros made me really anxious (though I figured they would not have shown the videos if something went wrong)
me too, I HATE it
Also doesn’t help that it’s called “headbanger”
Imagine a routine that includes all of this movements and elements, the faces of the judges has to be priceless 😂
3:46 Oh, I’m really good at that move!
But can you do it sober? Performance enhancing drugs are usually banned.
@@RustBunny youre supposed to do it with drugs? Guess im just really bad huh
Me too. The years of training have finally paid off. I can lay down SO HARD.
@Aberrant they were also joking when they commented that
@@graciellemariesierras1482 lol ikr
Ex figure skater here - I used to perform headbangers in shows, so this was nostalgic!
If you look, most of them actually bring their hands in to their faces when they get close to the ice. That way you'd hit your hands off the ice and not your head. And coaches usually make sure that your partner is a certain height taller than you so that the physics are in your favour. The hardest part was just sticking the landing (like the first one did).
Still, it was my favourite move to perform. I remember the gasps of the audience when they first saw it as they always thought the first dip was a fall. But I was never dropped once!
I would’ve screamed my head off even if they could’ve bribed me into it
So why was it banned? For safety or for failure to be actually skating?
Of course you never dropped otherwise you couldn't have written this 😣
You make it sound like fun.
I will not be attempting this.
Interesting, glad to know there was some level of safety when planning it out.
Yeah, yeah. These are cool ‘n all, but have any of you hear of the “Iron Lotus”?
Not me looking for this exact comment.
Exactly
Lol!.😆
@Muskan P. yuzuru 😭 hes gorgeous.
@Muskan P. He's like a force of nature,always thrilling to watch.😍
As a child, I used to watch ice skating only at the Olympic games or bigger contests. Then I neglected it about years.. As I started again to watch, I was wondering what happened to the skills? Why are so many figures not shown? Now I know...
So you can’t lay down “because you’re not skating” but trusova can start all her programs kneeling??
Morgan Alayna I think it’s just different move? It’s not forbidden, she is not laying down on ice
@@soniaromanova Yeah, kneeling is pretty common. It's only the full body laying down on the ice that could get a deduction or count as a fall
Lol envy
I remember hearing a rule stating that the athlete has a specific amount of seconds from when their music starts to play, to when they start to skate. Perhaps because of this strict time limit, there wouldn't be enough time to stand up from laying down, or to execute the transition in an artful way.
Evgenia medvedeva starts her sailor moon routine literally fake sleeping on the ice with a pillow and blanket and all. I think you’re allowed to start kneeling or laying down for the first few seconds, just not in the middle of your performance.
"if you're lying down, you aren't skating" guess the last few minutes didnt count for much haha
I think the lying down rule is a bit extreme
They are excluding accidentally fall get into the "i was just lying down" zone
is that berth's titan on yo pp
@@RobespierreThePoof well... the sport surprises us in many ways when it comes to technicality. Sometimes a fall and a step-out and a hand-down or turnout are.. just determined on the go by some judges and technical specialists. So a fall getting disguised as "lying down" might actually happen.
5:39 What kind of witchcraft am I watching, that costume change is magical!
Fr that costume change was so smooth and the second dress dosnt look built at all which is surprising
jerry plz it was the wig she threw
Wig flew.
@@yassbtch9039 indeed
Witchcraft? More like 5:09
I remember being a child watching that thing where the guy grabs the girl's feet and spins her head within inches of the ice, and even then I was wondering how on earth that was allowed. Imagine how many women have been brained on the ice because of it 😨
The costume detaching was so cool I wish they didn’t ban it
Skaters are allowed to change costumes mid program, what is banned there was the hat falling on the ice. Here's a very recent example: th-cam.com/video/e3d6_PpyD_s/w-d-xo.html at 2:45
It can be very dangerous if you accidentally skate on it.
It makes sense. Like the costumes that fall on the ice may be made of fibers that can mess up the quality of the ice for the next skaters (the same reason why there are rules for the gifts you can throw on the ice after a skaters program). And the skater themselves could skate over a discarded piece of clothing and mess up their skate or get injured in the process. It does look really cool though.
That’s true ig
2030: "They banned ice"
What the f...
Why did I laugh at this?
"They decided that if ice was involved, there was too much risk of people being cold"
@@aj6134 if that happen there's no ice skating anymore lol
I laughed out loud I love u
No idea why this was in my recommended as someone who can barely even walk in a straight line.
Edit: didn't know I'd get this many likes thanks :)
TH-cam: If u cant walk straight, I cant see u.
On regular ground without ice skates...
One of the songs I in here I listened to the other day, so I think that's why for me anyways.
sober up
Hm, I mostly listen to metal here on YT and apart from that I mostly watch Warhammer 40k stuff... I _really_ wonder why this was in my suggestions. The only connection I can see is that the jury might call an Exterminatus on every figure skater breaking those rules.
You left out Scott Hamilton who’s signature move is a back flip. He’s not just famous for being an amazing skater, he’s famous for how well he does back flips on ice!
They didn't leave him out: the video is moves banned in competition, not ones done in shows, which they fully explained.
It’s looks like they’re about to launch the partner into the audience.
well they did launch their partners into the audience but the clip was cut so it would seem everyone is fine
They should have the guy dress and the trunchbull and the woman as the student and fling her by the pigtails
Grace Rivard you just gave me the biggest childhood flashback of my life
YEET
Looks like they are about to yet their partners out of existence!
It: 3AM
TH-cam: How about banned figure skating moves?
TH-cam is early today, it wasn't even past midnight when I got this recomanded to me.
it's literally 3am for me rn too as i'm watching this
Can relate, sadly. :D
The lying down rule is absurd. It's added SO much to many of those routines. Who on earth could imagine Torville and Dean without that ending?
withOUT?
Surya Bonaly remains the only figure skater to even attempt, let alone complete a one-foot landing backflip at the Olympics. There might not be many who could land it in competition today. Of course it was banned even when she did it but there was a long period that backflips were legal. She’s a legend of the sport and was an outlier in her time and not treated with the respect she she deserved.
It was banned because it is too dangerous. Nothing amazing about risking your health, your life to show off your tricks.
The first person to do a backflip during competition was Terry Kubicka at the 1976 Olympics and it was banned later in 1976. Bonaly was only 3 years old.
@@Charlie-dv7ev I said the first one foot landing backflip. So yes, she remains the first and only to attempt and land that move. Terry Kubicka’s backflip was a hard two-foot landing. Surya purposefully landed using only one. A more difficult maneuver than Terry’s.
@@ddespair Still doesn't negate the fact that the backflip, regardless of landing was banned long before Surya stepped foot on ice.
@@Charlie-dv7ev what exactly is your point? I literally said in my first post that the backflip was banned before she did it. Learn to read before you post.
*is 4am*
TH-cam: "you want to see some banned moves in figure skating?"
Me, having never had an interest in figure skating in my 25 years of life: "hmm yes this is pertinent information"
you definitely look older than 25 stop lying
@@DD-fh6gy bro my profile pic is the diabeetus dude, u kinda dumb my guy
@@wingwangtingtang issa joke obviously bruh do i look like a cartoon irl 🙄🙄🙄
@@DD-fh6gy I feel like you do and this is just a way to cover that up
@@DD-fh6gy but are you or are you not a cartoon? This investigation shall not be stopped
They forgot the most dangerous move: The Iron Lotus.
Well youtube would shut that shit down if that's the case, HAVE YOU SEEN THE FOOTAGE FAM (also I see what you did there, nice reference)
madness dont.
was waiting for this
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haha
...
Too funny
everyone : focusing on the topic of the video
me: SNAPPING SNAPPING
FR I WAS LIKE CHUNGHA???
SNAPPING SNAPPINGGGG
I KNOW I KNOW I DON'T I DON'T SNAPPING WOO~
HAHA YESS
Ikr HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
No wonder I hadn’t seen anyone do back flips on ice… this sure brought back the 80’s 90’s the good all days.
5:39 OK that was one of the most entertaining things I have ever seen
Wig flew
I came to the comments looking for someone who said something about it
Valerian movie came to mind. 😊
th-cam.com/video/hxMgwvi72Us/w-d-xo.html
Anna Pogorilaya / Rise Like A Phoenix
Shcherbakova just did this a week ago. Stunning as ever. th-cam.com/video/b14ImjKCf6Y/w-d-xo.html
2:58 I cringed at that dude’s shoulders, I KNOW that must’ve hurt 😭😭
I imagine he was holding her up slightly to take the weight of the blades off his shoulders
Inch thick scar tissue
he might wear something hard on his shoulder
After it was made clear that most of the International judges were crooked, Surya Bonaly gave zero fucks what they thought. I loved seeing her put the back flips in her programs just to piss them off. Hahahaha!
Her abusive mother also tried to intimidate them but go off I guess
In Surya’a last games, which I think were Lillehammer, she was fed up with the Kerrigan/Harding feud and when she fell, she knew she’d not win so she finished her career on her own terms.
Judges in Ice skating are known to be corrupted and judgemental. Recent Olympics, they allowed 15 girl who competing on international level to continue to compete despite testing positive for three drugs that increase person endurance, and stamina. The judges hated Surya because she wasn't your typical ice skating princess physique and took points from her when it wasn't needed.
@@emmakaplan7508judges were still bad but go off.
I was watching when Surya Bonali did that backflip at the Olympics. It was epic and came after a difficult routine that didn't go well for her.
Me: never watched figure skating in my life
Also me: ah yes makes sense that this was banned
th-cam.com/video/oLRuX4Dbq5c/w-d-xo.html
@@averagecalisthenicsguy1504 wtf
We all become experts on the internet😁
4:29 I love how Yuzuru Hanyu is like "I don't care about losing one point" XD
Of course, he care .thats his perf at gala ,not competition.
he’s so beautiful
He also stripped off his shirt in one performance, left only wearing a tank top.
That was not a competition performance, genius.
@@captainmillie4017
He is boring.
2:58 Ok but like is no one gonna talk about how the girl was standing on his shoulders, and she has those blades under them-😧
@Hellequin Maskharat that's still hella painful in normal clothing. Also they do have edges. The blades have a hollowgrind.
ouch
EXACTLY ICE SKATES ARE EXTREMELY SHARP AND CAN DECAPITATE YOU
@@somerandotacosomerandotaco9280 I think you have been watching too many movies and anime... They vaguely have an edge at best unless some psycho is putting a razor's edge on their skates.
if the base is strong and the flyer knows how to hold their body, it probably isn't that bad. painful but not unbearable or damaging, bc the blades are not actually sharp. (i am an acrobat not a skater, but i how how it feels to have bodyweight resting on a single, tiny point of contact that does not typically bear weight)
Yadda yadda backflip yadda yadda headbanger, but how amazing and creative was that first costume detach! 5:36