Bleach fans were so confident with their uni meta for years but lacked feats and tybw anime straight up gave us massive feats that it solidified uni meta😂 1. Ichigo in irazusando confirms he's the only confirmed sk candidate 2. Each of the squad 0 member can affect the 3 realms and ichigo massively outscales them Soo if mfs even after watching this say ichigo caps at planetary you retatded af😂
@@virtueisong615 ok? Did you missed the part where she was told to not over do it? She did all that while holding back 🤷 and ichigo already scales higher than any squad 0 member anyway
Side note: You’re speaking straight facts on 7:14. Naruto fans always were very toxic, cause their series is popular and they want to brag about it and after the TYBW anime came out Bleach fans also became very toxic and now both fandoms are doxxing at each other on Twitter for the most bullshit reasons, that’s not funny anymore.
@@youssefibrahim5496he hit a cero in hell arc and it broke through hell and went to the human world, opening a portal from hell to earth. i think thats uni
Not trying to be an asshole or anything but "all [x] is good" is always a coward move... anime is not a "single entity", it's a form of media. It's like saying "all movies are good" or "all books are good" when obviously it depends on the capability of the author and the preferences of the audience...
@@animezparadisez69 It doesn't need to be "deep", some claims are just intrinsically coward. If you are saying something to try to be "on the good graces" with everyone is because you have no personality and no real opinions. This is no different than being afraid of what people might say about your claim (cowardice). Deal with it.
Yeah Bleach is the strongest of the big three by quite a bit mainly through its spiritual connotations and religious undertones that Kubo uses. The power system more character driven style opposed to the hard rules of the others kinda makes it extremely haxy and have no real limit doesn’t help either.
I am a big Naruto fan, and i have not watched bleach, but whenever i look up, who wins, i always see stronger arguments for ichigo winning. The only occasions i ever see Naruto winning this is if you use his universal arguments, and while i do think, you can make a strong argument for him being universal but the problem with it is a lot of the universal stuff for naruto are miss translations so i only say he is universal if you high ball him. I would say a mid ball for Naruto would be star+- solar system level judging by the size of kaguya's dimensions, but i can see why galaxy level could also be considered mid balling as well when you include the red shift nebula in Momishiki's dimension. As for ichigo again, as i said, i haven't watched bleach, so i am going to take your word for it and say he is universal at a mid ball and he wins. On a side note, people need to stop saying Naruto isn't even planetary because apparently there is a big debate on tick tock on whether or not he is planetary and it has spread to TH-cam and the debate is actually stupid. Naruto is planetary at the lowest of low balls. Stop saying he isn't planetary. Also, i agree that people need to stop being toxic and enjoy these shows for what they are because i am hearing that in a lot of recent debating people are going from debating over is this character so and so strong to strait up insulting each others personal life and it has got to stop
Things big three fans need to accept (no hate to this content creator great video) 1.luffy is weakest regardless of gear 5 2.ichigo is the strongest 3.you shouldn’t form an opinion unless you’ve seen the series itself 4.and much like this creator said chill out and touch some grass
Remember back in the day when ppl argued non-stop about Luffy being thr strongest cause he pushed 2 buildings apart? Then later destroyed a ship under alot of water pressure? Feels like not much has changed lol.
Lol 😂😂. I love how this video turned from ichigo vs naruto, tp " you guys need to chill the F up" And i'm with you. I've been away from the anime community now for quite some time, and when checked again the toxicity has reached in to a different dimension LOL. And not just for those two. they really need to chill
AS A BLEACH FAN I CAN ADMIT AND ALWAYS HAVE ADMITTED THAT THER ASPECTS OF NARUTO THAT I LIKE MORE THAN BLEACH AND VICE VERSA....STOP THE HATE WE ALL ARE GOATED...
First of all in naruto you don’t have to scale to your opponent to harm them case and point Sakura was able to harm kaguya who should be millions of times stronger then her so Naruto being uni is just a popular wank iconically narutards steal this from bleach where you DO have to scale to your opponent to harm them ichigo slaps naruto and the verse by merely existing also lastly soi-fon two taps the naruto verse cope
"Naruto in boruto is uni and above since momoshiki was able to create parallel uni and naruto and sasuke were fighting him" 🤓and then momoshiki get's slapped accross by a vanishing rasengun which was not even able to blow a tree apart😂.
@@mufeezsyed2664 wrong again you guys try to wank Naruto by stating he can beat characters that create universes and dimensions but you forget that in naruto you don’t. Have to scale up to your opponent like in bleach cope
@@animezparadisez69 I mean we still have the novels which spell out a lot more than both the manga and anime, it straight up stated that the soul king is nigh omnipotent and created the multilayered universe out of the primordial one and that gremmy created a galaxy. Then there are hikone and ginjo's feats, but SK canidates are just over powered unless they face off trancended level and up characters with good hax abilities.
@@legendaresn6983 Well Gremmy's galaxy feat is actually unquantifiable for many reasons but outside of that it doesn't change the fact that the anime was the key in Bleach upscaling lately.
I completely hate most anime communities now bc power scaling makes watching anime or reading manga feel like bs bc I'm expected to know every facet of a characters powers, like getsuga tenshou cool lemme have my replicas and cool books
I mean....I ain't stopping you tbf. I power scale cuz I personally find it fun man. And while I understand that some people don't enjoy power scaling I do get tired of people telling me I need to delete my channel because of what I do. I do appreciate you being civil doh.
Would love to see a debate between yuuichi and ayanokoji, yuuichi in the later chapter seems to be out scaling ayanokoji in every way love both series though ❤❤
I've been a fan of the big 3 since 2008 when I started watching all 3.. by my personal opinion I love Bleach more so for me Ichigo wins, but I can't emphasize enough how much I loved Naruto more in emotional parts so Naruto also wins... this is a literal win-win to me, let them eat ramen together and be done with this debate
Easiest way to discern who’s strongest in the big 3 is to just be real and understand which verse had God Tier characters from episode 1. One Piece is obviously out, Naruto didn’t hit God level until the war, and Bleach had literal Death Gods(Shikigami) in the first 20 episodes. Bleach stomps. Not to mention how strong Ichigo actually became at the end.
@@shaft7949 Some of the Gods of Death early on were extremely weak to be fair and wouldn't actually stand a chance against Naruto or Luffy. But yes Bleach in the end has the stronger characters
In Naruto, there is an entity called Shinigami.. Orochimaru, usually nonchalant about getting bodied, is scared for life in front of shinigami.... Not even close baby..
I remember when Naruto fans and Bleach fans were at worst 'neutral' on the other series, but usually liked both. The biggest problem happened when one of the animation studios said they were going to prioritize budget into animating the Ichigo vs. Ulquiorra final fight. Afterwards near the end of the Fullbring arc, the ratings (from reviewers) for Bleach went down. And it's note like One Piece fans jumped down the Bleach fans throats, nope. It was Naruto fans. But both of those incidents were just fanboyism as you'd come to expect. That is until Death Battle. Storytime stops here.
Many naruto radical fans try really hard to make naruto seems powerful. Im as a naruto fans myself i would say Ichigo really above Naruto in power scale.
Im really honest bro ichigo beat yhawach which has almighty which he can picking his own futures ichigo is faster then light almost all characters do heck even fgt could beat brayon naruto
Some bleach and naruto fans fighting over their characters really isn't that different than any other anime characters fighting over their own animes, it's just going to happen.
Lol, Just look at the comments man you'll find which fanbase is exactly toxic 7/10 comments in this video are just Bleach meatriders yappin without respecting other verses
@@Wordetto101 You're not wrong. Despite me even defending Bleach more than once all they seem capable of doing is getting pissed at me for not scaling the verse the way they want. Like I had Ichigo win. Why the hell am I getting hate all because I use a statement from the manga that debunks something insignificant.
Bleach verse is kinda hard to scale and while naruto verse in other hand is easy to scale. If we scale Bleach we could say it stays on low-multiverse or higher(I didn't read the novels, but i heard they got strong feats of it and that's why i say it can be scaled higher), while Naurto verse stays on Planetery, but maybe with boruto is can be scaled higher(Solar-system maybe)
@@koraykoc9015 No you can watch the show yourself or even just watch the video I uploaded. People want their hands held and all I'm saying is watch the series and you'll get the answer lol. All it takes.
So I am gonna say this. More bleach fans are chill then Naruto, one piece, and dragon ball. They used to attack bleach fans for no valid reason until they snapped and started acting the same way. Bleach fans are like introverts being bullied. Who did you say from bleach??
@@AkutagawaSan Ehhhhhh complete opposite from my perspective actually. All my friends who are Naruto fans agreed with me. Sure there are some bad eggs. But I've lost friends who like Bleach because I've said Naruto can see Ichigo. And I've always seen them telling people to unalive themselves. Rather than pretending the entire Bleach community is just victims and getting mad at me for saying both them and Naruto tards are assholes how about you just enjoy the video. Because it's like no matter how right I am or how much work I do to appease someone y'all always got something negative to say.
@@animezparadisez69 well I'm sorry but maybe you just found chill people. I have talked with so many communities and out of the big three bleach was the most chill. Naruto and one piece people would be mean and even get violent of you critical of the series. One piece fans make fun of you for not watching or calling out flaws in the story. Both have also lead to actual physical fights, which is moronic to be getting into a fist fight over. But bleach fans are like a isolated group. The fans support everything Kubo and try to talk about these novels and stuff. Some do in Naruto but it's really the Boruto community with almost no bad eggs. But Naruto fans oh hell no. Naruto fans tend to be not so...nice in general. But that's from having long conversations about Naruto, bleach, one piece, dragon ball, Inuyasha, rurouni Kenshin, sailor moon, BSD, and several more communities. Several are bad in another way, but Naruto and one piece along with dragon ball are the communities that will freak out over nothing and plus I don't know if you even knew but people promoting on their communities to hate raid bleach for no valid reason for several years and it ended up being a trend. Bleach fans never did that to the others. They just ended up being tired and so now they don't like people like that. They have qualifications for even being a fan so they don't got toxic people in their community because they care about representing kubo in a sense.
@@animezparadisez69 I also ask you to call down and not get emotional cause you meet some people who have screws loose. I get there are bad apples yes. But one has millions to billions of fans and more then half of them do have malice towards not just bleach but anime fans that criticize their favorite show. I have experienced more death threats from a smaller anime community than bleach. You must have gotten unlucky and found some loon bins thinking they fans. I'm not even really a fan cause I have not watched it all. I was not saying nothing about Naruto seeing Ichigo and I am someone who does a lot of research before even uttering replies to be vs battles. Even then I'm not gonna be rude about it. Don't just lump people together because you had a bad experience. If that is the case then I could be manipulative about the truth. But I'm just telling you the truth of the matter. One piece is toxic and degrading towards fans who don't have time for shows with hundreds to thousands of episodes and want simplicity. Naruto fans are mean to Boruto fans and fans of series like bleach, one piece, dragon ball, reincarnated as a slime, Fate Franchise, and many more. Like I said there are bad apples but one community out of them all don't even accept people like that in it. Every community should shun and disavow them. Not classifying them as fans for toxic actions. If I said something horrible like "go do this (Minecraft ending yourself) cause bleach is best anime you do dumb and ugly" then I would say the response was valid. I have been in the communities for a while and the truth is what I said. I wish I could put responses in here cause lord. I have criticism for all the big three and bleach will actually talk about it. You have to pray to meet some of the nice community members for others. You just have not talked enough to fans.
@@animezparadisez69 let me give you advice. Don't appease no one. Stick with the facts of the matter and dont let emotion carry you down. Where I come from there is a phrase that is very true. "Your emotions are a weapon many will use against". People are going to give criticism or say something you don't like. It does not mean to get emotional and act out. Again proving my point previously. Instead of giving ammunition to someone don't give them that. Respond calmly and politely. You got emotional over me telling something you did not want to hear. Several Naruto fans don't want to hear about some things like criticism or the truth and get upset.
@@animezparadisez69You meant to say 'kill'. You don't have to censor yourself, the world already does enough of that for free. Don't be part of the problem.
8:43 this is actually the reality bleach fans most of the times when it comes to anime battles just likes to bring up fodder characters and say they solo naruto verse like theres out there someone saying ikkaku solos the verse and say stupid sh!t like: "oh he's a shinigami he's untouchable", "oh their names are litterally gods of death or some like that and naruto is just a human" like they dont know when to shut up it's actually crazy btw love ur vids keep up the good work ur prob one of the best scalers out there and the most unbised one
@@animezparadisez69 that's true but these are extra things you have to take in consideration. Like how Ichigo's hollow powers is poisonous to humans. And how humans can't really compete with souls in Bleach.
one of naruto fans biggest arguments is the creating dimensions thing which is dumb cause that one random fullbringer could make multiple dimensions quickly and have full control over them not to mention a base form kenpachi broke out of that and ichigo going bankai destroyed it so id say a more fair fight would be start of tybw ichigo vs naruto or maybe true shikai ichigo vs naruto
Well, Obviously Ichigo would win. He is undeniably the strongest of the big three, as he as a Soul King Candidate and been able to fight Soul King Ywach, so he is essentially the closest one to having the power of a God. The Soul King divided the infinite size Primordial Universe in 3 infinite Universe size realms. That right there is Universe+ to low multiverse level feat. Of course, The other Moon level character doesn't stand a chance 🤷🏻♂️
Bleach, Fairy Tail, Saint Seiya, Sailor Moon and some others have characters who can make Dragon Ball character's act like a twig due to the characters they fought who can literally wrapped realities, etc due to their haxes, yet somehow many people ignored those haxes and downgrade many of them just because they like certain characters which is just sad to see in the comment section sometimes.
Certainly the hax in Bleach are not superior to the hax in dragon ball, although the focus is not on hax but on fighting dragon ball has tons of very good hax, such as free control over space-time on a conceptual level, conceptual erasure, plot erasure, Toon force (high level), hax creation, mind control (of the highest level) hax override, infinite multiplier,Acasuality and many others.
I'm midway through the video but I want to say 2 things 1. Naruto doesn't really use a sword, but he has used kunai in combat in the story and has also quickly taken Sai's sword againts the hidden cloud ninja when they were pressing him for information on Sasuke after the fight with Bee 2. Ichigo has been training in martial arts since he was a child and has shown elite physical prowess even in his base/human form. At the start of the lost agent arc you can see him manhandle a bunch of thugs with no diff. So I think both of them are evenly matched in hand to hand combat despite ichigo not really using it in his main fights...it would have been nice for Kubo to add some more CQC sequences with ichigo but alas. That aside, I agree that Ichigo clears the naruto verse for the most part. Definitely against naruto. At best he could be caught in genjutsu but whos to say his inner hollow / zanpakuto spirit couldn't break him out of it - we never really got an equivalent to genjutsu in Bleach except for FEAR. I love both stories and grew up reading and watching both as they were coming out. Its just very painfully obvious how different the scale is between the two.
@@augustinevenero2780 1. Kunai is quite different from swords but it doesn't really matter because Ichigo would still have better skills with a sword. 2. Ichigo is skilled yes and can take down a bunch of thugs but why compare something like that when Naruto had been doing that since he was a small child? Not to mention Naruto knows multiple martial arts and has full mastery of them I've seen nothing suggesting Ichigo does outside of the one fighting style he's shown. 3. Outside of those I thank you for being more respectful than some of the people in these comments and I respect you actually asking questions in a civil manner🙏
@@Brolyuchiha242 yeah the English translations says that while raw kanji says it's just space. Now i pretend kaguya indeed created 6 dimensions can you tell me how big they are and any size feat ( don't worry you won't find a single size feat in either naruto/boruto) Also let's pretend they were universes does that mean sakura being able to broke kaguya horn off means sakura has universal ap/dc 🤷 There's a reason why to till this day kaguya uni meta is discussed because it's inconsistent af
@@animezparadisez69 The first anime I have ever watched was bleach the 2nd was Naruto I remember back when I was 10 my mom did not want me to watch it so I sneaked all 366 Episodes since then I am older and can watch what I want so I watched it again. Naruto, I watched with a group of my friends, and we all loved it and were laughing so hard in the first few episodes. I still have yet to read the manga, but I will get to that when I have time after my studies. I could not and would not decide between the 2 though.
The difference between the two characters and the repitition of the cross fiction gang wars make this so boring sometimes. I hope the next Bleach vs Naruto fights have more interesting matchups like: Ootsusuki vs Squad 0, Kage vs Captains, Espada vs Akasuki, Tsukishima vs Orochimaru, Sasuke vs Rukia (the closest that i mentioned lol) and Renji vs Isshiki
Why can't we all agree that character vs is fun but ultimately don't matter? Cause that character is powerful "within their own verse" but the rules they go by for power or skill doesn't apply to most other verses. Fun to imagine 2 powerhouses clashing, but that's really it. Not worth the rage or fights it causes lol
i watched both naruto and bleach i kinda fell off naruto in like the middle of the 4th shinobi war cause there were so many side characters being introduced back stories for edo tensei unless they were already shown in Naruto before, bleach bias for a bit of a silly reason my former baby sitting was the one to introduce me to bleach ^^'
@@imperialspy7204 Well let me know when there's a canonical crossover. Until then I'll use the material the authors created to decide who should win based off that👍
@@omkarpatil5922 Ngl I may have to do that. I didn't want to make the video too long this time cuz I only have my phone and no laptop so it can't be over 10 minutes or my phone will have a seizure. But dw when I get the chance I'll re read both.
@@animezparadisez69 you scale the three worlds beyond what legit verbatim stated they are lmao ignoring evidence doesn’t help just makes your videos extremely inaccurate if you want the evidence join king bullets cord
@@Snowforest60 Yap yap yap if you disagree with the video then ok. If you haven't read Bleach, which it's clear you haven't, then that's fine too. I'm not wasting my time debating with someone who clearly won't change their mind even with evidence. Again have a good day.
I don't want to say a winner but I wonder why combat intelligence is never built into a fight. Everyone talks about logic and data but the most logical thing is never there. Fighting strength is not always decisive. I mean, how often do you see a significantly stronger villain who still loses in the end because the good guy was simply smarter in the end. I think with such who wins videos you should also include combat intelligence. Then in my eyes this is also really important in a fight if not the most important.
Yamamoto in his Bankai was going to destroy the entire SS while just existing, which is bare minimum a high end multisolar system feat which stomps anything in Naruto. Yama also scales far above Kenpachi who in his battle with Azashiro was stated to be able to destroy the Dangai, an infinite sized realm that contains all the realms in Bleach. Light speed is treated as top tier in Naruto even at the end of the series.
@@jbstarkiller4626 He wasn't doh. It was only destroying the planet not the realm. How would something like the sun even destroy a solar system breh. Even then I gave Naruto higher scaling than that so he should slap. And no I showed evidence of light speed being a thing since the beginning of the series multiple times on this channel for Naruto. We can debate this if you'd like.
@@animezparadisez69 The SS is a realm not a planet. There are multiple stars in the night sky of the SS I’m not referring to the Sun we see. Yes light speed is present even towards the beginning of the series and it’s still considered top tier by the end of the series🤨
@@jbstarkiller4626 If you actually read Bleach you'd know when they say Soul Society they refer to a planet as they mentioned things like an atmosphere and a night and day cycle as well as many other things. So nice try attempting to scale him off the realms themselves 👍. And not it's not as we know characters got faster. So I don't know why you're ignoring that.
Naruto can only defeat avg shingami, Naruto can't even defeat the shinagami of his own verse who is only captain class shingami level. Ichigo beyond overkill.
@@Chillchildren999 Two different types of Shinigami 💀. Using that logic Death Note characters solo Naruto. In Bleach the Shinigami are spirits and Naruto could not only see spiritual entities such as his own Father and his own soul but he could also interact with them. I think Ichigo wins but that doesn't make sense.
@@animezparadisez69 yep death note solo Naruto because it can work on humans And you miss something it was stated that without high spiritual pressure humans cannot see soul reapers
@@kyoraku_shunsui_bankai We can debate that actually if you'd like because there's nothing suggesting any Death Note characters solos the Naruto verse. And technically speaking Naruto would have high spiritual pressure as the energy has been equalized which means his massive chakra reserves would indeed help him.
@@thuto9490 Well good thing I didn't ask. Are you one of the people who thinks Naruto is universal and Ichigo is 5D. Shit that'd be funny. Ig reading the manga and using it as a source is "shit scaling"
Naruto has more tangible feats than ichigo. The universal arguments are pointless bc you can both wank them to universal, but in reality neither are universal We haven't even seen a planet get destroyed in either verse. So called 5d ichigo & aizen were shocked by mountains being destroyed 💀 and the highest feat in bleach is Kenpachi's meteor slash
😂😂 best way you can prove that you haven't read the manga first kenpachi was able to cut through space and time and yhwach literally change the fuvking future as well and senjumaru shaking the 3 realm which are infinite is alone the fact that bleach characters are above multiverse Aizen evolves 4 times and he can infinitely evolve The soul king in his prime is stronger than big 3 and all of the DBZ combined except for Zeno or
@@kyoraku_shunsui_bankai Everything your saying is complete nonsense, by your interpretations Kaguya created multiple infinite dimensions, and Namek Goku is universal, see how that works goofy 🤦♂️ Show some actual destructive feats.
@@christopher_silver So what exactly is wrong with the blatant universal scaling for Bleach. You say it's wank because you've never seen something destroyed but that's foolish because both have the attack potency to go beyond planet level. You must be fresh out of Tiktok is you believe this planet level shenanigans. And if you actually read Bleach which I doubt you did seeing how you're mentioning the mountain feat as if it's reliable you'd know that Aizen was impressed by how strong he was not by him destroying a mountain or changing the land mass. Do you think that version of Aizen is weaker than Ulquiorra all of a sudden? Range of effect doesn't equal power or attack potency. And Kenny isn't even top 5. All you care is flashy feats rather than the actual scaling.
The three realms in bleach are not universal in size. Theyre multi-galactic, as reio split the original universe into 3. The only two characters who reach universal levels of power are the prime soul king and soul king yhwach, as ichigo was getting clapped by yhwach through and through and only won because of all the external help he recieved.
@@juliomedina-pq2oi So when Kubo clearly modled the World Of The Living after our own observable universe he didn't intend to do so🗿? And if you read Bleach and knew what you were talking about Ichigo cut Yhwach in half before the arrow was used to nerf him. Now read Bleach and tell me why that's important. Actually naw asking people to read the series they talk about is too much these days. You can't do something like to that a character in Bleach unless you're relative to them or above. Reiatsu 101
@@animezparadisez69 modeling something after something doesn’t mean shit lmao ☠️ you can model pieces of clay to look like a skyscraper, but that doesn’t mean the resulting clay skyscraper is the same size as a real skyscraper. You’d have to prove that the living world IS actually a true universal structure, which you clearly have not and cannot do lmao. Yhwach wasn’t even as powerful as he needed to be to be at universal either lmao. He still needed more power, which is why he couldn’t merge the realms then and there. So at best, Ichigo only scales to a non-universal Yhwach, who only stated he was going to destroy soul society with his reiatsu. So both are only multi-galactic in power.
@@juliomedina-pq2oi If you want to use your own personal head canon to debunk Bleach nobody is stopping you however Kubo's intentions were fucking clear. And we also saw the fucking universe in a anime episode as well. You're using faulty logic to downplay Bleach. Also send evidence that Yhwach was never that powerful since you want to claim such. That and it was blatantly confirmed Ichigo could for a fact replace the Soul King. Also if you disagree let's debate drop your tag. If you wanna low-ball them to multi galaxy then Naruto is planet level max.
Guess what not every universe are of same size 😂 and living world of bleach is just the replica of the real world we live in unless you believe our own cosmology caps at galactic level😂
@@juliomedina-pq2oiit’s been stated that the Dimensions are separated by Time and Space by the Dangai Dimension, they can’t exist in the same Universe if they don’t have the same Time Spaces
I still cant digest the fact that why are we comparing different anime characters...like why? Just enjoy the anime and forget about it? Its just that simple....right? Like I have seen people getting at each others throat just to prove that their anime mc is stronger than other person 's fav mc. Comparing two anime with different stories, plot, power scaling level, length of show is like comparing two persons with different majors in a college over who is more intelligent...like what? Anime should be watched for enjoyment and should a stress buster and here people are busting their screens over some stupid shit...
@@Vatsalya-df5xn Because we want to. Why do you care about what I do in my free time? My suggestion is go watch something you want and don't harass me for doing what I fucking want on my fucking channel.
Dude, he wasn't even harassing you. I've read a few threads for this video, and how you respond and you're just an ass. I understand not being happy about criticism and disagreeing about different things, but you have no chill man.@@animezparadisez69
@@animezparadisez69 Luffy is multiversal + cause he scales above mont-d'or who created infinite dimensions bigger like universe lol ( luffy fans says that )
@@joshfarrow9707 I said she in reference to who you called multi universal. You need to actually read my comment. When did I say Naruto once? I was responding to you calling Kaguya multi universal. Please read next time. And you said "Boruto is trash and he is universal at the end of Shippuden". Do you read what you type? Anyways send evidence of them being multi universal.
@@animezparadisez69 no I said Naruto is planetary at the end of Shippuden its implied as your video is about Naruto vs Ichigo. And I like the video for the most part. Best bleach vs Naruto verse video I've seen so far.
5:54 Kaguya creates 6 parallel dimensions on her own. The Soul King requires a ritual to split one into three and requires his body to maintain this seperations.
@@animezparadisez69 I did watch the whole vid. In the middle of Watching your Sung Jin Woo vs Sasuke vid at the moment. When you called Momoshiki’s dimension galaxy level then proceeded to say the soul king “sliced” a universe I had to rewind because that is not what the soul king did or how the series identifies Momoshiki or Kaguya’s dimensions. A parallel has to be independent from and equal in size to the reference point which would be the universe Naruto is from. Which the series has called a universe. Also power nullifying is only mentioned in the context of Soul reaper vs Soul reaper. If you are going to equalize it like that you have to quantify how much energy they each have. You pretty much equalized speed which is reasonable considering how messy that can get, so just hiccups here and there.
@@onesmart229 Do you have any evidence it's a universal sized construct? I doubt you do. Also if you watched the video you'd know that's not the only universal argument. And power nullification would work with Reiatsu and seeing how energy is equalized crossverse it does apply. If you have any complaints you can drop your discord and we'll VC debate with a judge. If you don't wish to do that I suggest reading Bleach. Also there's never been any statements of Kaguya or Momoshiki's dimension being universal that was a mistranslation in a novel that was never translated to English and is Japanese only.
@@animezparadisez69 I have read bleach. Work is slow right now. I can’t vc but I can type. If you equalizing you still have to quantify how much energy each party has along with the gap required for the power null to take affect. You gotta watch Boruto. Their dimensions are called parallel dimensions in the anime. A literal synonym for parallel universe. Most of the time it feels like Bleach scalers hope you haven’t read it because most of their higher scaling goes out the window as soon as you do.
@@onesmart229Naruto freaking can't survive attack shingami from his verse what makes you think he will survive against ichigo. Naruto nit universal and in light novel Naruto dimension only contains five planet
No character in bleach scales to the 3 worlds which are directly given the properties of planets. Not Senjumaru for just shaking them, not the soul king who needed help from the entire 5 clans just to make planets from pre existing materials, and not Yhwach who was going to use a chain reaction to destroy them. No bleach character is planetary or above.
@@MrLoops-dq9xt Many characters do. I understand you haven't read or watched Bleach but don't try and lie to people who have such as myself. Also we can debate Naruto vs Ichigo drop your tag.
Naruto is atleast Universal+ or even low multiverse and here is why: 1. Through AP and wins: a. Won against Kaguya who creates 6 Spacetimes which is 4D concept(3 Spacial D + Time) and sometimes even mentioned as Hyperspace which is higher dimension and able to swap not herself but the ENITRE F*CKING space without she being at full strength and Naruto defeat her(with the help of others but Adult naruto >>> this Naruto so don't nitpick) b. Defeated Momoshiki who had also created Parallel universes while being at 50% of his strength 2. Through his multipliers this is more to justify Naruto's power growth and how can he defeat these monters: Sage mode is atleast 10x or more as it's better verson of curse mark who provides 10x boots to chakra and strength. 1 Tailed cloak Naruto was relative to CM Sasuke, so meaning KCM2 would be 10^9x but Naruto had only half Kurama so its going to be 20^9x So6p mode was strongest Naruto form at that time so it greater than 10^9(naruto still had only half Kurama so can't say 20^9) but let's only take 10^9x. So calc all that than Adult Naruto would be stronger as he was going against Otsutsuki at base so atleast 2x, And than Baryon mode uses Nuclear fusion concept of colliding 2 charkra to create stronger one. Sun generates about 3.8×10^26 watts of power through nuclear fusion. while Naruto isn't a sun the nuclear fusion will provide power beyond anything before it, if we just take X which produces 10 watt of energy and now it going through nuclear fusion the energy produced would be: Energy produced by Sun/X....(formula) 3.8x10^26/10 = 3.8x10^25 and I'm sure Naruto produceses more energy than mere 10 watt While Ichigo is Universal at best and his being higher dimensional is metaphorical for getting stronger than Hallow and Soul reaper not true 4D So yeah Naruto stomps
@@FangLeng-lh4gn 1. You need to prove your claim of them being universes when scaling otherwise it's head canon to make a claim like that when there's not actually evidence suggesting such. 2. The Momoshiki parallel universe was a mistranslation from the word sekai. Why is this important? Well that because you need a specific kanji with it to actually prove that Buddha has enlightened the realm otherwise in that context it is not a universe. 三千大千世界 is the Kanji required. Or Ushuu the actual kanji for universe. Also do you speak Japanese? Because the Naruto novel with Momoshiki was never properly translated. 3. Random ass multipliers doesn't mean anything but sure you can do all the math for that and show evidence of each of those multipliers. 4. Even if you argue Naruto is universal I can say Ichigo is 5D so yeah.
@@animeisbadngl Ah so you're someone who assumes every dimension is automatically a universal construct. Imagine being so slow. Do you even know the definition to what a space-time is because if you did a shred of research you'd know.
@@animezparadisez69 1. that what I did, right? I literally said, "Naruto is Universal and here is why", "HERE IS WHY" 2. The last time I checked which was a min ago, World means Universe too. and we see nebulas in one of Momoshiki's dimension 3. It's just to jusify "WHY" he is universal rather than being argument for that. him defeating those enemy is an actual argument. 4. 5d thing can't exists in 3d and argument that he was limiting his power is bad cuz if he is doing that than how Aizen said he is higher dimensional being. so it's just a Hyperbole statement.
@@FangLeng-lh4gn 1. You didn't prove anything doh. 2. Last I checked baseless claims are head canon and nebulas are not the sizes of universes 💀. 3. Your reasoning is still ass though actually bro. Using your logic btw I can make claims without evidence. I could say the verse caps at country level and you'd lose because apparently I have to prove you wrong without evidence. 4. Imagine not knowing the difference being attack potency and existence. You guys are actually donkeys. Especially in a fictional world. And if you wanna say every Aizen argument was hyperbole then every argument of Kaguya destroy things was as well.
@@animezparadisez69 Eida can beat them. She has the power of omnipotence which makes anything she desires come to reality. Its gremmys ability but on steroids because anything she wishes is absolute. With the senrigan she can see anywhere in the world meaning u can’t hide from her and she can kill u before u even get close to her and she can even see in the past anytime after her birth. Getting close to her or killing her is nearly impossible unless I guess u tried to kill her from another planet or dimension, but Aizen or ychwach would have no way of knowing this and even if they was to some how make it through all of that she still has her love charm ability, if anybody or anything doesn’t matter what u are comes in her presence u automatically fall in love with her and becomes her slave. She can do what ever she wants with them after that.
@@animezparadisez69 and yes i kno ychwach can see in the future with the almighty but that doesn’t mean anything if eida just wishes him to not exist before he could do anything.
ofcourse ichigo is strongest in big three
Lol You're the first person I've ever heard say that
@@nolanmclaughlin2361 thanks
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@error6592 what character in bleach is planetary
If you have watched the big 3 you know that bleach verse
is the strongest
I believe that's naruto
@@gemini.saga3 Its ichigo dattebayo
@@gemini.saga3bro have never read manga 😂
@@Anix09461 no bro
@@gemini.saga3 Then you haven't watched bleach yet
its not brutal truth its obvious those who watch all the big3
I watched it all and I think its Ichigo Naruto luffy
Bleach fans were so confident with their uni meta for years but lacked feats and tybw anime straight up gave us massive feats that it solidified uni meta😂
1. Ichigo in irazusando confirms he's the only confirmed sk candidate
2. Each of the squad 0 member can affect the 3 realms and ichigo massively outscales them
Soo if mfs even after watching this say ichigo caps at planetary you retatded af😂
Aizen destroying the Cleaner is a Uni feat
@@Chillchildren999 yes we( bleach fans) know that but people outright ignore it and mainly focus on " aizen destroyed the mountain" feat
But literally non of them have AP or DC higher then planetary
Shaking a universe on its own is a multi solar level feat. So shaking 3 is still multi solar or highballed small galaxy level feat
@@virtueisong615 ok? Did you missed the part where she was told to not over do it? She did all that while holding back 🤷 and ichigo already scales higher than any squad 0 member anyway
7:24 I believe that deathbattle started the whole war between Naruto and Bleach fans. Ever since the Naruto vs Ichigo fight.
Especially with how insanely low they scaled Bleach
Yeah deathbattle are horrible scalers lol
Ichigo stomps and its not close, however it doesn't mean Naruto is a bad character or "weak". Most people are way too emotional about this.
Side note: You’re speaking straight facts on 7:14. Naruto fans always were very toxic, cause their series is popular and they want to brag about it and after the TYBW anime came out Bleach fans also became very toxic and now both fandoms are doxxing at each other on Twitter for the most bullshit reasons, that’s not funny anymore.
Twitter being toxic? Must be a day ending with y.
If we take vasto lorde ichigo in the hell verse, that one alone easily multiverse
Hell verse from the movie isn't canon, so it doesn't count
@@muayboran6111 It is canon
@@muayboran6111 im pretty sure its cannon but i dont think he is multiversal
@@youssefibrahim5496he hit a cero in hell arc and it broke through hell and went to the human world, opening a portal from hell to earth. i think thats uni
@@silithic_ nuh uh it isn't
To be honest I love watching Anime, all anime is good. The only thing i hate is those toxic fans.
@@cryingdevil3964 Real ngl
Agreed
Not trying to be an asshole or anything but "all [x] is good" is always a coward move... anime is not a "single entity", it's a form of media. It's like saying "all movies are good" or "all books are good" when obviously it depends on the capability of the author and the preferences of the audience...
@@lipfried Does anyone really think it's that deep to the point of claiming it's cowardly doh🗿
@@animezparadisez69 It doesn't need to be "deep", some claims are just intrinsically coward. If you are saying something to try to be "on the good graces" with everyone is because you have no personality and no real opinions. This is no different than being afraid of what people might say about your claim (cowardice). Deal with it.
Yeah Bleach is the strongest of the big three by quite a bit mainly through its spiritual connotations and religious undertones that Kubo uses. The power system more character driven style opposed to the hard rules of the others kinda makes it extremely haxy and have no real limit doesn’t help either.
I am a big Naruto fan, and i have not watched bleach, but whenever i look up, who wins, i always see stronger arguments for ichigo winning. The only occasions i ever see Naruto winning this is if you use his universal arguments, and while i do think, you can make a strong argument for him being universal but the problem with it is a lot of the universal stuff for naruto are miss translations so i only say he is universal if you high ball him. I would say a mid ball for Naruto would be star+- solar system level judging by the size of kaguya's dimensions, but i can see why galaxy level could also be considered mid balling as well when you include the red shift nebula in Momishiki's dimension. As for ichigo again, as i said, i haven't watched bleach, so i am going to take your word for it and say he is universal at a mid ball and he wins.
On a side note, people need to stop saying Naruto isn't even planetary because apparently there is a big debate on tick tock on whether or not he is planetary and it has spread to TH-cam and the debate is actually stupid. Naruto is planetary at the lowest of low balls. Stop saying he isn't planetary.
Also, i agree that people need to stop being toxic and enjoy these shows for what they are because i am hearing that in a lot of recent debating people are going from debating over is this character so and so strong to strait up insulting each others personal life and it has got to stop
Naruto fans in the comments are big mad lol.
Bleach fan's take are always braided 😂
Things big three fans need to accept (no hate to this content creator great video)
1.luffy is weakest regardless of gear 5
2.ichigo is the strongest
3.you shouldn’t form an opinion unless you’ve seen the series itself
4.and much like this creator said chill out and touch some grass
Bro speaking straight facts
Remember back in the day when ppl argued non-stop about Luffy being thr strongest cause he pushed 2 buildings apart? Then later destroyed a ship under alot of water pressure?
Feels like not much has changed lol.
Lol 😂😂. I love how this video turned from ichigo vs naruto, tp " you guys need to chill the F up" And i'm with you.
I've been away from the anime community now for quite some time, and when checked again the toxicity has reached in to a different dimension LOL. And not just for those two. they really need to chill
Ichigo claps its not close
Its a close battle but ichigo still win
@@mamadoudiallo9279it’s not Ichigo’s 5th Dimensional, Naruto’s Star level at best and he would not be able to see Ichigo
it's not even a bit close@@mamadoudiallo9279
@@Chillchildren999 He could absolutely sense Ichigo because he could sense the limbo clones.
@@mamadoudiallo9279using the light novel feats ss arc ichigo solos naruto + boruto at the same time
AS A BLEACH FAN I CAN ADMIT AND ALWAYS HAVE ADMITTED THAT THER ASPECTS OF NARUTO THAT I LIKE MORE THAN BLEACH AND VICE VERSA....STOP THE HATE WE ALL ARE GOATED...
First of all in naruto you don’t have to scale to your opponent to harm them case and point Sakura was able to harm kaguya who should be millions of times stronger then her so Naruto being uni is just a popular wank iconically narutards steal this from bleach where you DO have to scale to your opponent to harm them ichigo slaps naruto and the verse by merely existing also lastly soi-fon two taps the naruto verse cope
"Naruto in boruto is uni and above since momoshiki was able to create parallel uni and naruto and sasuke were fighting him" 🤓and then momoshiki get's slapped accross by a vanishing rasengun which was not even able to blow a tree apart😂.
@@mufeezsyed2664 wrong again you guys try to wank Naruto by stating he can beat characters that create universes and dimensions but you forget that in naruto you don’t. Have to scale up to your opponent like in bleach cope
@@Pushiii736 brother read my comment again 😭
@@Pushiii736Drop your cord we can debate Soi Fon vs the Naruto/Boruto verse
@@animezparadisez69WILD
"The TYBW Arc anime has fucked me over on that" If you need the anime to do any comparation like this... 💀💀
@@_Macachita The manga was vague in many areas. Most of the cosmology was solidified by the anime and movies. So yeah 👍.
@@animezparadisez69 I mean we still have the novels which spell out a lot more than both the manga and anime, it straight up stated that the soul king is nigh omnipotent and created the multilayered universe out of the primordial one and that gremmy created a galaxy.
Then there are hikone and ginjo's feats, but SK canidates are just over powered unless they face off trancended level and up characters with good hax abilities.
@@legendaresn6983 Well Gremmy's galaxy feat is actually unquantifiable for many reasons but outside of that it doesn't change the fact that the anime was the key in Bleach upscaling lately.
@@animezparadisez69 It was the awesome anime original fight in cour 2, right? Or was it Irazusando from the beginning of cour 2?
@@animezparadisez69it was stated in cfyow that he actually created space, Naruto meat rider
Ichigo wins and its not even close. I've watched both animes.
I completely hate most anime communities now bc power scaling makes watching anime or reading manga feel like bs bc I'm expected to know every facet of a characters powers, like getsuga tenshou cool lemme have my replicas and cool books
I mean....I ain't stopping you tbf. I power scale cuz I personally find it fun man. And while I understand that some people don't enjoy power scaling I do get tired of people telling me I need to delete my channel because of what I do. I do appreciate you being civil doh.
Most logical anime watcher ever
I am a naruto fan and ichigo wins
Would love to see a debate between yuuichi and ayanokoji, yuuichi in the later chapter seems to be out scaling ayanokoji in every way
love both series though ❤❤
I've been a fan of the big 3 since 2008 when I started watching all 3.. by my personal opinion I love Bleach more so for me Ichigo wins, but I can't emphasize enough how much I loved Naruto more in emotional parts so Naruto also wins... this is a literal win-win to me, let them eat ramen together and be done with this debate
Easiest way to discern who’s strongest in the big 3 is to just be real and understand which verse had God Tier characters from episode 1. One Piece is obviously out, Naruto didn’t hit God level until the war, and Bleach had literal Death Gods(Shikigami) in the first 20 episodes. Bleach stomps. Not to mention how strong Ichigo actually became at the end.
@@shaft7949 Some of the Gods of Death early on were extremely weak to be fair and wouldn't actually stand a chance against Naruto or Luffy. But yes Bleach in the end has the stronger characters
Ichigo solos Naruto verse
In Naruto, there is an entity called Shinigami..
Orochimaru, usually nonchalant about getting bodied, is scared for life in front of shinigami....
Not even close baby..
hey man i really like ur videos and the way they're edited.
do u edit ur own videos?
@@sio.942 Ay thx! And yeah I edit my own videos however i do have help with the thumbnails.
I remember when Naruto fans and Bleach fans were at worst 'neutral' on the other series, but usually liked both. The biggest problem happened when one of the animation studios said they were going to prioritize budget into animating the Ichigo vs. Ulquiorra final fight. Afterwards near the end of the Fullbring arc, the ratings (from reviewers) for Bleach went down. And it's note like One Piece fans jumped down the Bleach fans throats, nope. It was Naruto fans. But both of those incidents were just fanboyism as you'd come to expect. That is until Death Battle. Storytime stops here.
Speaking big facts, especially towards the end. Mfers acting like their lives depend on which cartoon character is stronger.
Many naruto radical fans try really hard to make naruto seems powerful. Im as a naruto fans myself i would say Ichigo really above Naruto in power scale.
@@fahimmaf2469 I think they are both powerful I just think Ichigo is way more powerful lel.
Im really honest bro ichigo beat yhawach which has almighty which he can picking his own futures ichigo is faster then light almost all characters do heck even fgt could beat brayon naruto
Some bleach and naruto fans fighting over their characters really isn't that different than any other anime characters fighting over their own animes, it's just going to happen.
That's true. Every fan base has degenerates. At least some of them ain't as bad as others doh. MHA fans scare me.
Lol, Just look at the comments man you'll find which fanbase is exactly toxic 7/10 comments in this video are just Bleach meatriders yappin without respecting other verses
@@Wordetto101 You're not wrong. Despite me even defending Bleach more than once all they seem capable of doing is getting pissed at me for not scaling the verse the way they want. Like I had Ichigo win. Why the hell am I getting hate all because I use a statement from the manga that debunks something insignificant.
@@animezparadisez69 It's okay bro you're doing great thank you for your content.
@@Wordetto101 Thanks man I really do appreciate it.
The only crime here is we never got a big 3 crossover. We got it with one piece, dragon ball and toriko (which no one watched)
@@muayboran6111 True we need one someday
Toriko scaling goes hard. Any top tier in there destroys the whole big 3 at the same time. Minority world FTW.
Naruto will give him a good fight but if Ichigo doesn't hold back a bit it won't take too much time to take Naruto down
Bleach verse is kinda hard to scale and while naruto verse in other hand is easy to scale. If we scale Bleach we could say it stays on low-multiverse or higher(I didn't read the novels, but i heard they got strong feats of it and that's why i say it can be scaled higher), while Naurto verse stays on Planetery, but maybe with boruto is can be scaled higher(Solar-system maybe)
@@koraykoc9015 How does creating stars stay on planetary....
@@animezparadisez69 A star? I never saw someone creating a Star in boruto or Naruto, or did I miss something?
@@koraykoc9015 Yes you did indeed. I suggest actually watching it.
@@animezparadisez69 Who exactly? Just say me the details
@@koraykoc9015 No you can watch the show yourself or even just watch the video I uploaded. People want their hands held and all I'm saying is watch the series and you'll get the answer lol. All it takes.
So I am gonna say this. More bleach fans are chill then Naruto, one piece, and dragon ball. They used to attack bleach fans for no valid reason until they snapped and started acting the same way. Bleach fans are like introverts being bullied. Who did you say from bleach??
@@AkutagawaSan Ehhhhhh complete opposite from my perspective actually. All my friends who are Naruto fans agreed with me. Sure there are some bad eggs. But I've lost friends who like Bleach because I've said Naruto can see Ichigo. And I've always seen them telling people to unalive themselves. Rather than pretending the entire Bleach community is just victims and getting mad at me for saying both them and Naruto tards are assholes how about you just enjoy the video. Because it's like no matter how right I am or how much work I do to appease someone y'all always got something negative to say.
@@animezparadisez69 well I'm sorry but maybe you just found chill people. I have talked with so many communities and out of the big three bleach was the most chill. Naruto and one piece people would be mean and even get violent of you critical of the series. One piece fans make fun of you for not watching or calling out flaws in the story. Both have also lead to actual physical fights, which is moronic to be getting into a fist fight over. But bleach fans are like a isolated group. The fans support everything Kubo and try to talk about these novels and stuff. Some do in Naruto but it's really the Boruto community with almost no bad eggs. But Naruto fans oh hell no. Naruto fans tend to be not so...nice in general. But that's from having long conversations about Naruto, bleach, one piece, dragon ball, Inuyasha, rurouni Kenshin, sailor moon, BSD, and several more communities. Several are bad in another way, but Naruto and one piece along with dragon ball are the communities that will freak out over nothing and plus I don't know if you even knew but people promoting on their communities to hate raid bleach for no valid reason for several years and it ended up being a trend. Bleach fans never did that to the others. They just ended up being tired and so now they don't like people like that. They have qualifications for even being a fan so they don't got toxic people in their community because they care about representing kubo in a sense.
@@animezparadisez69 I also ask you to call down and not get emotional cause you meet some people who have screws loose. I get there are bad apples yes. But one has millions to billions of fans and more then half of them do have malice towards not just bleach but anime fans that criticize their favorite show. I have experienced more death threats from a smaller anime community than bleach. You must have gotten unlucky and found some loon bins thinking they fans. I'm not even really a fan cause I have not watched it all. I was not saying nothing about Naruto seeing Ichigo and I am someone who does a lot of research before even uttering replies to be vs battles. Even then I'm not gonna be rude about it. Don't just lump people together because you had a bad experience. If that is the case then I could be manipulative about the truth. But I'm just telling you the truth of the matter. One piece is toxic and degrading towards fans who don't have time for shows with hundreds to thousands of episodes and want simplicity. Naruto fans are mean to Boruto fans and fans of series like bleach, one piece, dragon ball, reincarnated as a slime, Fate Franchise, and many more. Like I said there are bad apples but one community out of them all don't even accept people like that in it. Every community should shun and disavow them. Not classifying them as fans for toxic actions. If I said something horrible like "go do this (Minecraft ending yourself) cause bleach is best anime you do dumb and ugly" then I would say the response was valid. I have been in the communities for a while and the truth is what I said. I wish I could put responses in here cause lord. I have criticism for all the big three and bleach will actually talk about it. You have to pray to meet some of the nice community members for others. You just have not talked enough to fans.
@@animezparadisez69 let me give you advice. Don't appease no one. Stick with the facts of the matter and dont let emotion carry you down. Where I come from there is a phrase that is very true. "Your emotions are a weapon many will use against". People are going to give criticism or say something you don't like. It does not mean to get emotional and act out. Again proving my point previously. Instead of giving ammunition to someone don't give them that. Respond calmly and politely. You got emotional over me telling something you did not want to hear. Several Naruto fans don't want to hear about some things like criticism or the truth and get upset.
@@animezparadisez69You meant to say 'kill'. You don't have to censor yourself, the world already does enough of that for free. Don't be part of the problem.
8:43 this is actually the reality bleach fans most of the times when it comes to anime battles just likes to bring up fodder characters and say they solo naruto verse like theres out there someone saying ikkaku solos the verse and say stupid sh!t like: "oh he's a shinigami he's untouchable", "oh their names are litterally gods of death or some like that and naruto is just a human" like they dont know when to shut up it's actually crazy
btw love ur vids keep up the good work ur prob one of the best scalers out there and the most unbised one
@@youssefibrahim5496 Thanks man I appreciate the support!
Naruto is just a human though.
@@SleepyCloud-i4z There are humans in fiction who can scale to universal even. Them being "just human" doesn't debunk feats.
@@animezparadisez69 that's true but these are extra things you have to take in consideration. Like how Ichigo's hollow powers is poisonous to humans.
And how humans can't really compete with souls in Bleach.
@@SleepyCloud-i4z Naruto's chakra is poisonous as well and he has shown to compete with souls. Not to mention there's energy equalization.
ichigo solo naruto and one piece verse. i came to that conclusion as a big 3 enjoyer after going out and touching some much a long natural grass😂😂
one of naruto fans biggest arguments is the creating dimensions thing which is dumb cause that one random fullbringer could make multiple dimensions quickly and have full control over them not to mention a base form kenpachi broke out of that and ichigo going bankai destroyed it so id say a more fair fight would be start of tybw ichigo vs naruto or maybe true shikai ichigo vs naruto
Yk it's bad when a random fullbringer has the same feats of a "god"
Well, Obviously Ichigo would win. He is undeniably the strongest of the big three, as he as a Soul King Candidate and been able to fight Soul King Ywach, so he is essentially the closest one to having the power of a God. The Soul King divided the infinite size Primordial Universe in 3 infinite Universe size realms. That right there is Universe+ to low multiverse level feat. Of course, The other Moon level character doesn't stand a chance 🤷🏻♂️
ngl why does he sound like shikimaru debating about naruto vs ichigo?
@@DivineToast345 You know I'd think this comment was funny if you weren't the fourth person to say that💀
@@animezparadisez69 oh really I didnt know like four others had the same opinion as me😂
@@animezparadisez69 maybe it really is accurate then
@@DivineToast345 Rip. Oh well I shall embrace it.
Bleach, Fairy Tail, Saint Seiya, Sailor Moon and some others have characters who can make Dragon Ball character's act like a twig due to the characters they fought who can literally wrapped realities, etc due to their haxes, yet somehow many people ignored those haxes and downgrade many of them just because they like certain characters which is just sad to see in the comment section sometimes.
Certainly the hax in Bleach are not superior to the hax in dragon ball, although the focus is not on hax but on fighting dragon ball has tons of very good hax, such as free control over space-time on a conceptual level, conceptual erasure, plot erasure, Toon force (high level), hax creation, mind control (of the highest level) hax override, infinite multiplier,Acasuality and many others.
Would you be willing to do Fate characters?
Love your videos man
@@kenobieost5476 Ay thx! And I'm actually still playing the Stay Night VN but when I finish it and some other novels I'll do it yes.
Yup Ichigo is far above Naruto, big shocker there...
I don't appreciate the sarcasm but thanks for agreeing ig.
@@animezparadisez69 it's just how I am, great work on the video BTW
I am a fan of bleach, naruto,dragon ball and death note
fun fact: even multiversal bleach is a downgrade
Should be at least low complex multiversal
@@ichigokurosaki9098 sure
I'm midway through the video but I want to say 2 things
1. Naruto doesn't really use a sword, but he has used kunai in combat in the story and has also quickly taken Sai's sword againts the hidden cloud ninja when they were pressing him for information on Sasuke after the fight with Bee
2. Ichigo has been training in martial arts since he was a child and has shown elite physical prowess even in his base/human form. At the start of the lost agent arc you can see him manhandle a bunch of thugs with no diff. So I think both of them are evenly matched in hand to hand combat despite ichigo not really using it in his main fights...it would have been nice for Kubo to add some more CQC sequences with ichigo but alas.
That aside, I agree that Ichigo clears the naruto verse for the most part. Definitely against naruto. At best he could be caught in genjutsu but whos to say his inner hollow / zanpakuto spirit couldn't break him out of it - we never really got an equivalent to genjutsu in Bleach except for FEAR.
I love both stories and grew up reading and watching both as they were coming out. Its just very painfully obvious how different the scale is between the two.
@@augustinevenero2780
1. Kunai is quite different from swords but it doesn't really matter because Ichigo would still have better skills with a sword.
2. Ichigo is skilled yes and can take down a bunch of thugs but why compare something like that when Naruto had been doing that since he was a small child? Not to mention Naruto knows multiple martial arts and has full mastery of them I've seen nothing suggesting Ichigo does outside of the one fighting style he's shown.
3. Outside of those I thank you for being more respectful than some of the people in these comments and I respect you actually asking questions in a civil manner🙏
I dont get this. How is Fused Momoshiki stronger than BARYON Mode Naruto?
That would mean Ishiki is weaker than Momoshiki and breaks the literal plot.
@@SaberEBW That was clearly a mistake when I was talking because I corrected myself afterwards
Ichigo wins for sure..and my fav anime is naruto..
They both cap at low-multiversal but Naruto wins because he's way more haxed
Name me one naruto multi uni feat?
@@mufeezsyed2664 kaguya creates 6 dimensions that are stated to be time spaces
@@Brolyuchiha242 yeah the English translations says that while raw kanji says it's just space.
Now i pretend kaguya indeed created 6 dimensions can you tell me how big they are and any size feat ( don't worry you won't find a single size feat in either naruto/boruto)
Also let's pretend they were universes does that mean sakura being able to broke kaguya horn off means sakura has universal ap/dc 🤷
There's a reason why to till this day kaguya uni meta is discussed because it's inconsistent af
Bro bleach and Naruto are both on top seat 10/10 for both of them nothing more or less then the other
@@PeytonGaming526 Fax. I have a bit of favoritism towards Naruto cuz I grew up reading it but I have to admit both are peak
@@animezparadisez69 The first anime I have ever watched was bleach the 2nd was Naruto I remember back when I was 10 my mom did not want me to watch it so I sneaked all 366 Episodes since then I am older and can watch what I want so I watched it again. Naruto, I watched with a group of my friends, and we all loved it and were laughing so hard in the first few episodes. I still have yet to read the manga, but I will get to that when I have time after my studies. I could not and would not decide between the 2 though.
6:57 I got hit by this move so many times...
I hate hearing the moon statement from Naruto 💀💀😂😂 ichigo the goat of big three
The difference between the two characters and the repitition of the cross fiction gang wars make this so boring sometimes.
I hope the next Bleach vs Naruto fights have more interesting matchups like: Ootsusuki vs Squad 0, Kage vs Captains, Espada vs Akasuki, Tsukishima vs Orochimaru, Sasuke vs Rukia (the closest that i mentioned lol) and Renji vs Isshiki
@@legendaresn6983 I think Isshiki and Sasuke beat Rukia and Renji. But the anime may change that never know.
@@animezparadisez69 especially with the cour 3 Trailer showing Renji bankai and hell arc Rukia having a decade to Master bankai
@@animezparadisez69nope rukia real power is to control matter and manipulate it
@@kyoraku_shunsui_bankai Wouldn't really help when she gets beat up but ight
@@animezparadisez69 Sasuke isn't surviving absolutely zero
Why can't we all agree that character vs is fun but ultimately don't matter? Cause that character is powerful "within their own verse" but the rules they go by for power or skill doesn't apply to most other verses. Fun to imagine 2 powerhouses clashing, but that's really it. Not worth the rage or fights it causes lol
i watched both naruto and bleach i kinda fell off naruto in like the middle of the 4th shinobi war cause there were so many side characters being introduced back stories for edo tensei unless they were already shown in Naruto before, bleach bias for a bit of a silly reason my former baby sitting was the one to introduce me to bleach ^^'
bleach fans after seeing you scale naruto to galaxy+ instead of planetary:🤬🤬🤬🤬👿
Exactly yet, muh " umm actually ichigo Is multiversal:
Honestly, it's whoever the author wants to win
@@imperialspy7204 Well let me know when there's a canonical crossover. Until then I'll use the material the authors created to decide who should win based off that👍
bro i think u have to make a in-depth video on ichigo vs naruto
@@omkarpatil5922 Ngl I may have to do that. I didn't want to make the video too long this time cuz I only have my phone and no laptop so it can't be over 10 minutes or my phone will have a seizure. But dw when I get the chance I'll re read both.
@@animezparadisez69 hi i want to ask a question?
You able to discuss this on discord???
@@Snowforest60 Where do you scale Naruto and Ichigo?
@@animezparadisez69 Naruto consistently multi solar system
Ichigo around large planet maybe star level
@@Snowforest60 And like that I've decided not to waste my time have a good day.
@@animezparadisez69 you scale the three worlds beyond what legit verbatim stated they are lmao ignoring evidence doesn’t help just makes your videos extremely inaccurate if you want the evidence join king bullets cord
@@Snowforest60 Yap yap yap if you disagree with the video then ok. If you haven't read Bleach, which it's clear you haven't, then that's fine too. I'm not wasting my time debating with someone who clearly won't change their mind even with evidence. Again have a good day.
*Think of Soul Society as Otsutsukis.*
Naruto is galaxy level? Wtf hate feats that aren’t demonstrated instead of just being statements.
@@Rairyuujin Not the brightest tool in the shed I see
I don't want to say a winner but I wonder why combat intelligence is never built into a fight. Everyone talks about logic and data but the most logical thing is never there. Fighting strength is not always decisive. I mean, how often do you see a significantly stronger villain who still loses in the end because the good guy was simply smarter in the end. I think with such who wins videos you should also include combat intelligence. Then in my eyes this is also really important in a fight if not the most important.
@@Short_Motivation_GX Because in this specific fight it doesn't matter. Naruto at best is galaxy level while Ichigo is at normal low multiversal.
Yamamoto in his Bankai was going to destroy the entire SS while just existing, which is bare minimum a high end multisolar system feat which stomps anything in Naruto. Yama also scales far above Kenpachi who in his battle with Azashiro was stated to be able to destroy the Dangai, an infinite sized realm that contains all the realms in Bleach. Light speed is treated as top tier in Naruto even at the end of the series.
@@jbstarkiller4626 He wasn't doh. It was only destroying the planet not the realm. How would something like the sun even destroy a solar system breh. Even then I gave Naruto higher scaling than that so he should slap. And no I showed evidence of light speed being a thing since the beginning of the series multiple times on this channel for Naruto. We can debate this if you'd like.
@@animezparadisez69 The SS is a realm not a planet. There are multiple stars in the night sky of the SS I’m not referring to the Sun we see. Yes light speed is present even towards the beginning of the series and it’s still considered top tier by the end of the series🤨
@@jbstarkiller4626 If you actually read Bleach you'd know when they say Soul Society they refer to a planet as they mentioned things like an atmosphere and a night and day cycle as well as many other things. So nice try attempting to scale him off the realms themselves 👍. And not it's not as we know characters got faster. So I don't know why you're ignoring that.
Naruto can only defeat avg shingami, Naruto can't even defeat the shinagami of his own verse who is only captain class shingami level. Ichigo beyond overkill.
@@524ti We can debate Naruto vs whichever average Shinigami you can come up with.
@@animezparadisez69 He’s talking about the Reaper Death Seal Shinigami cause it proves that Naruto would not be able to see or sense Ichigo
@@Chillchildren999 Two different types of Shinigami 💀. Using that logic Death Note characters solo Naruto. In Bleach the Shinigami are spirits and Naruto could not only see spiritual entities such as his own Father and his own soul but he could also interact with them. I think Ichigo wins but that doesn't make sense.
@@animezparadisez69 yep death note solo Naruto because it can work on humans
And you miss something it was stated that without high spiritual pressure humans cannot see soul reapers
@@kyoraku_shunsui_bankai We can debate that actually if you'd like because there's nothing suggesting any Death Note characters solos the Naruto verse. And technically speaking Naruto would have high spiritual pressure as the energy has been equalized which means his massive chakra reserves would indeed help him.
ichigo 1 taps
ngl some of your scaling is actually ass but yes ichigo is stronger
@@thuto9490 Well good thing I didn't ask. Are you one of the people who thinks Naruto is universal and Ichigo is 5D. Shit that'd be funny. Ig reading the manga and using it as a source is "shit scaling"
Did you just scale momoshiki to galaxy level???
@@bleed_gray If you have to ask me how I scaled a character you clearly didn't watch the video. Watch it.
@@animezparadisez69 no I watched it, the scaling is whacky, momoshiki ain't getting past star level highball
@@bleed_gray Ah so you never touched Naruto. Ok if that's the case Ichigo planet level max frfr
@@animezparadisez69 never touched Naruto?😍 You wanna debate pal?
@@bleed_gray I don't debate people who've only read one series 👍
If Naruto looses, Ichigo still have to deal with Boruto and... Boruto literally curb stomps Ichigo with no problem.
@@Pizza-Supremacy With that feats? There isn't a single feat that Boruto has performed that puts him above Ichigo.
Both sun wukong victims
@@_.Jenstu From what I've heard about Wukong yas
Ain't no way you just replied to me in 3 mins lol, for that, +1 sub
@@_.Jenstu Yay
I respectfully disagree with the conclusion of Ichigo winning, either way W vid 👍
Huh?
Tell me your arguments to why Naruto would win.
@@Sushi_AT He said he respectfully disagrees so it's probably best to leave him to his own opinion rather than debate him.
@@animezparadisez69honestly that's the best thing cuz either way you can make logical answers for both winning
ichigo wins for ever and ever
@@angelhurtado55 Careful. Bleach fans say this but you never know when plot induced stupidity can make a verse 5D.
ichigo is the strongest of the big three.
naruto is second
strongest - bleach
beter - naruto
Natsu solo's
Naruto with domain expansion 👀?
@@augoaru23 It'd be a world based off his sexy jutsu fr
8:40
Naruto has more tangible feats than ichigo. The universal arguments are pointless bc you can both wank them to universal, but in reality neither are universal
We haven't even seen a planet get destroyed in either verse. So called 5d ichigo & aizen were shocked by mountains being destroyed 💀 and the highest feat in bleach is Kenpachi's meteor slash
😂😂 best way you can prove that you haven't read the manga first kenpachi was able to cut through space and time and yhwach literally change the fuvking future as well and senjumaru shaking the 3 realm which are infinite is alone the fact that bleach characters are above multiverse
Aizen evolves 4 times and he can infinitely evolve
The soul king in his prime is stronger than big 3 and all of the DBZ combined except for Zeno or
@@kyoraku_shunsui_bankai Everything your saying is complete nonsense, by your interpretations Kaguya created multiple infinite dimensions, and Namek Goku is universal, see how that works goofy 🤦♂️ Show some actual destructive feats.
@@christopher_silver have you watched bleach?
@@christopher_silver So what exactly is wrong with the blatant universal scaling for Bleach. You say it's wank because you've never seen something destroyed but that's foolish because both have the attack potency to go beyond planet level. You must be fresh out of Tiktok is you believe this planet level shenanigans. And if you actually read Bleach which I doubt you did seeing how you're mentioning the mountain feat as if it's reliable you'd know that Aizen was impressed by how strong he was not by him destroying a mountain or changing the land mass. Do you think that version of Aizen is weaker than Ulquiorra all of a sudden? Range of effect doesn't equal power or attack potency. And Kenny isn't even top 5. All you care is flashy feats rather than the actual scaling.
@@christopher_silver We can debate it btw drop your tag
Ichi
ichigo isn't uni lol
naruto is universal if ichigo is
and ichigo doesn't have any good speed feats naruto blitzes
@@jeromejustice4973 Say cheese
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The three realms in bleach are not universal in size. Theyre multi-galactic, as reio split the original universe into 3. The only two characters who reach universal levels of power are the prime soul king and soul king yhwach, as ichigo was getting clapped by yhwach through and through and only won because of all the external help he recieved.
@@juliomedina-pq2oi So when Kubo clearly modled the World Of The Living after our own observable universe he didn't intend to do so🗿? And if you read Bleach and knew what you were talking about Ichigo cut Yhwach in half before the arrow was used to nerf him. Now read Bleach and tell me why that's important. Actually naw asking people to read the series they talk about is too much these days. You can't do something like to that a character in Bleach unless you're relative to them or above. Reiatsu 101
@@animezparadisez69 modeling something after something doesn’t mean shit lmao ☠️ you can model pieces of clay to look like a skyscraper, but that doesn’t mean the resulting clay skyscraper is the same size as a real skyscraper. You’d have to prove that the living world IS actually a true universal structure, which you clearly have not and cannot do lmao.
Yhwach wasn’t even as powerful as he needed to be to be at universal either lmao. He still needed more power, which is why he couldn’t merge the realms then and there. So at best, Ichigo only scales to a non-universal Yhwach, who only stated he was going to destroy soul society with his reiatsu. So both are only multi-galactic in power.
@@juliomedina-pq2oi If you want to use your own personal head canon to debunk Bleach nobody is stopping you however Kubo's intentions were fucking clear. And we also saw the fucking universe in a anime episode as well. You're using faulty logic to downplay Bleach. Also send evidence that Yhwach was never that powerful since you want to claim such. That and it was blatantly confirmed Ichigo could for a fact replace the Soul King. Also if you disagree let's debate drop your tag. If you wanna low-ball them to multi galaxy then Naruto is planet level max.
Guess what not every universe are of same size 😂 and living world of bleach is just the replica of the real world we live in unless you believe our own cosmology caps at galactic level😂
@@juliomedina-pq2oiit’s been stated that the Dimensions are separated by Time and Space by the Dangai Dimension, they can’t exist in the same Universe if they don’t have the same Time Spaces
Stop being a centrist
@@ichigokurosaki9098 Excuse me? The hell are you talking about.
Naruto stronger than ichigo not even debate
It's The Exact opposite
Wank Both and Ichigo sill wins.
I still cant digest the fact that why are we comparing different anime characters...like why? Just enjoy the anime and forget about it? Its just that simple....right? Like I have seen people getting at each others throat just to prove that their anime mc is stronger than other person 's fav mc.
Comparing two anime with different stories, plot, power scaling level, length of show is like comparing two persons with different majors in a college over who is more intelligent...like what?
Anime should be watched for enjoyment and should a stress buster and here people are busting their screens over some stupid shit...
And if you still want to compare then do that with two characters of a same anime so that you will have a common ground and valid arguments...
@@Vatsalya-df5xn Because we want to. Why do you care about what I do in my free time? My suggestion is go watch something you want and don't harass me for doing what I fucking want on my fucking channel.
@@Vatsalya-df5xn Now here's my question. Why are you so angry people have a hobby?
Dude, he wasn't even harassing you. I've read a few threads for this video, and how you respond and you're just an ass. I understand not being happy about criticism and disagreeing about different things, but you have no chill man.@@animezparadisez69
Naruto slams the verse
@@GalaxyRocher In his dreams after Ichigo knocks him out sure
@@animezparadisez69 Not gonna happen tbh it would the otherway round
@@GalaxyRocher As I said sure in Naruto's dreams
@@animezparadisez69 wanna discuss naruto vs the verse ?
@@GalaxyRocher Sure drop your tag we'll debate when I wake up
Luffy solos
@@tycoonzayy9848 Both of these characters one shot Luffy
@@animezparadisez69 Luffy is multiversal + cause he scales above mont-d'or who created infinite dimensions bigger like universe lol ( luffy fans says that )
I find all things in Bleach vague, the story, their power, the enemy, even the tittle it self Bleach is vague
I do wonder why it's called Bleach ngl
@@animezparadisez69 It has to do with the Shinigami wearing black, the name being a juxtaposition of that.
Don kanonji beats Naruto verse
@@jadefrenance6373 Naruto solos One Piece
@@animezparadisez69 one piece solos dragon ball
😂 lol
Something wrong?
Boruto is absolutely trash and he is universal at the end of Shippuden as he fights kaguya who is multi-universal.
@@joshfarrow9707 Boruto wasn't even born at the end of Shippuden. Also she isn't multi universal what💀
@@animezparadisez69 Naruto is multi-universal not boruto and he is a dude not a girl. boruto is how the series is referenced
@@joshfarrow9707 I said she in reference to who you called multi universal. You need to actually read my comment. When did I say Naruto once? I was responding to you calling Kaguya multi universal. Please read next time. And you said "Boruto is trash and he is universal at the end of Shippuden". Do you read what you type? Anyways send evidence of them being multi universal.
@@animezparadisez69 no I said Naruto is planetary at the end of Shippuden its implied as your video is about Naruto vs Ichigo. And I like the video for the most part. Best bleach vs Naruto verse video I've seen so far.
@@joshfarrow9707 learn how to scale kid im naruto fan kaguya is only solar system and get her pass namek goku who is planetary
5:54 Kaguya creates 6 parallel dimensions on her own. The Soul King requires a ritual to split one into three and requires his body to maintain this seperations.
@@onesmart229 I gave other reasons too watch the whole video
@@animezparadisez69 I did watch the whole vid. In the middle of Watching your Sung Jin Woo vs Sasuke vid at the moment. When you called Momoshiki’s dimension galaxy level then proceeded to say the soul king “sliced” a universe I had to rewind because that is not what the soul king did or how the series identifies Momoshiki or Kaguya’s dimensions. A parallel has to be independent from and equal in size to the reference point which would be the universe Naruto is from. Which the series has called a universe. Also power nullifying is only mentioned in the context of Soul reaper vs Soul reaper. If you are going to equalize it like that you have to quantify how much energy they each have. You pretty much equalized speed which is reasonable considering how messy that can get, so just hiccups here and there.
@@onesmart229 Do you have any evidence it's a universal sized construct? I doubt you do. Also if you watched the video you'd know that's not the only universal argument. And power nullification would work with Reiatsu and seeing how energy is equalized crossverse it does apply. If you have any complaints you can drop your discord and we'll VC debate with a judge. If you don't wish to do that I suggest reading Bleach. Also there's never been any statements of Kaguya or Momoshiki's dimension being universal that was a mistranslation in a novel that was never translated to English and is Japanese only.
@@animezparadisez69 I have read bleach. Work is slow right now. I can’t vc but I can type. If you equalizing you still have to quantify how much energy each party has along with the gap required for the power null to take affect. You gotta watch Boruto. Their dimensions are called parallel dimensions in the anime. A literal synonym for parallel universe. Most of the time it feels like Bleach scalers hope you haven’t read it because most of their higher scaling goes out the window as soon as you do.
@@onesmart229Naruto freaking can't survive attack shingami from his verse what makes you think he will survive against ichigo. Naruto nit universal and in light novel Naruto dimension only contains five planet
Naruto solos the verse
@@MrLoops-dq9xt Actually he gets choke slammed but ight
@@animezparadisez69 You wish
@@animezparadisez69 You should do Yu-Gi-Oh Characters Next any character from the Yu-Gi-Oh Franchise
No character in bleach scales to the 3 worlds which are directly given the properties of planets. Not Senjumaru for just shaking them, not the soul king who needed help from the entire 5 clans just to make planets from pre existing materials, and not Yhwach who was going to use a chain reaction to destroy them. No bleach character is planetary or above.
@@MrLoops-dq9xt Many characters do. I understand you haven't read or watched Bleach but don't try and lie to people who have such as myself. Also we can debate Naruto vs Ichigo drop your tag.
@@animezparadisez69 No none of them do as I've just explained. Saying I didn't read bleach isn't a refute, make an actual argument.
@@MrLoops-dq9xt Sure I'll do that in our debate drop your tag lil bro
@@animezparadisez69 What do you mean tag?
@@MrLoops-dq9xt Drop your cord so we can hop in VC and debate that way
Naruto is atleast Universal+ or even low multiverse and here is why:
1. Through AP and wins:
a. Won against Kaguya who creates 6 Spacetimes which is 4D concept(3 Spacial D + Time) and sometimes even mentioned as Hyperspace which is higher dimension and able to swap not herself but the ENITRE F*CKING space without she being at full strength and Naruto defeat her(with the help of others but Adult naruto >>> this Naruto so don't nitpick)
b. Defeated Momoshiki who had also created Parallel universes while being at 50% of his strength
2. Through his multipliers this is more to justify Naruto's power growth and how can he defeat these monters:
Sage mode is atleast 10x or more as it's better verson of curse mark who provides 10x boots to chakra and strength.
1 Tailed cloak Naruto was relative to CM Sasuke, so meaning KCM2 would be 10^9x but Naruto had only half Kurama so its going to be 20^9x
So6p mode was strongest Naruto form at that time so it greater than 10^9(naruto still had only half Kurama so can't say 20^9) but let's only take 10^9x.
So calc all that
than Adult Naruto would be stronger as he was going against Otsutsuki at base so atleast 2x,
And than Baryon mode uses Nuclear fusion concept of colliding 2 charkra to create stronger one.
Sun generates about 3.8×10^26 watts of power through nuclear fusion.
while Naruto isn't a sun the nuclear fusion will provide power beyond anything before it, if we just take X which produces 10 watt of energy and now it going through nuclear fusion the energy produced would be:
Energy produced by Sun/X....(formula)
3.8x10^26/10 = 3.8x10^25
and I'm sure Naruto produceses more energy than mere 10 watt
While Ichigo is Universal at best and his being higher dimensional is metaphorical for getting stronger than Hallow and Soul reaper not true 4D
So yeah Naruto stomps
@@FangLeng-lh4gn 1. You need to prove your claim of them being universes when scaling otherwise it's head canon to make a claim like that when there's not actually evidence suggesting such.
2. The Momoshiki parallel universe was a mistranslation from the word sekai. Why is this important? Well that because you need a specific kanji with it to actually prove that Buddha has enlightened the realm otherwise in that context it is not a universe. 三千大千世界 is the Kanji required. Or Ushuu the actual kanji for universe. Also do you speak Japanese? Because the Naruto novel with Momoshiki was never properly translated.
3. Random ass multipliers doesn't mean anything but sure you can do all the math for that and show evidence of each of those multipliers.
4. Even if you argue Naruto is universal I can say Ichigo is 5D so yeah.
@@animeisbadngl Bet let's debate that ain't universal lil bro
@@animeisbadngl Ah so you're someone who assumes every dimension is automatically a universal construct. Imagine being so slow. Do you even know the definition to what a space-time is because if you did a shred of research you'd know.
@@animezparadisez69 1. that what I did, right? I literally said, "Naruto is Universal and here is why", "HERE IS WHY"
2. The last time I checked which was a min ago, World means Universe too.
and we see nebulas in one of Momoshiki's dimension
3. It's just to jusify "WHY" he is universal rather than being argument for that. him defeating those enemy is an actual argument.
4. 5d thing can't exists in 3d and argument that he was limiting his power is bad cuz if he is doing that than how Aizen said he is higher dimensional being. so it's just a Hyperbole statement.
@@FangLeng-lh4gn
1. You didn't prove anything doh.
2. Last I checked baseless claims are head canon and nebulas are not the sizes of universes 💀.
3. Your reasoning is still ass though actually bro. Using your logic btw I can make claims without evidence. I could say the verse caps at country level and you'd lose because apparently I have to prove you wrong without evidence.
4. Imagine not knowing the difference being attack potency and existence. You guys are actually donkeys. Especially in a fictional world. And if you wanna say every Aizen argument was hyperbole then every argument of Kaguya destroy things was as well.
Ichigo wins but Naruto verse claps the bleach verse 🤷🏿♂️
@@obliteratex8966 What's your argument for him beating Yhwach and Aizen?
@@animezparadisez69 na I was speaking for the “Naruto verse” not Naruto him self. But I can name 2 people from Naruto who beat ychwach and aizen.
@@obliteratex8966 Ik Shibai most likely does but who's the second one?
@@animezparadisez69 Eida can beat them. She has the power of omnipotence which makes anything she desires come to reality. Its gremmys ability but on steroids because anything she wishes is absolute. With the senrigan she can see anywhere in the world meaning u can’t hide from her and she can kill u before u even get close to her and she can even see in the past anytime after her birth. Getting close to her or killing her is nearly impossible unless I guess u tried to kill her from another planet or dimension, but Aizen or ychwach would have no way of knowing this and even if they was to some how make it through all of that she still has her love charm ability, if anybody or anything doesn’t matter what u are comes in her presence u automatically fall in love with her and becomes her slave. She can do what ever she wants with them after that.
@@animezparadisez69 and yes i kno ychwach can see in the future with the almighty but that doesn’t mean anything if eida just wishes him to not exist before he could do anything.