Legendary drummer Carmine Appice talks to Mark Strigl of Talking Metal about his time playing with Ozzy Osbourne. For more content by Mark visit Mark Strigl.net
The evidence that shows just what type of person Sharon is continues to come out. Carmine is a legendary drummer. He, Bob, and Jake made that album as great as it was.
@@chrischoir3594 you're correct, my mistake. I've thought that was Carmine on the record all this time, I was so certain lol. I'm not that bright. It was Tommy Aldridge, correct?
@@chrischoir3594 now I remember, I saw Oz do Bark at the Moon on Solid Gold and he had Carmine drumming, also I only had the cassette for that album and I dont believe it had any info on the j card.
@@yourmomsdaddy9130 Lee Kerslake drummed on Blizzard and Diary Tommy was credited and played the gigs and the videos TA is hugely gifted History for many years showed TA as the drummer Lee passed in September 20 Lee/Tommy/Carmine all great players Some are famous for their talents in entertaining us and some are (in)famous for other reasons Let’s leave it there
Damn....!!!!!!!!!!!! who could say this guy is 74 years old and still holds his ground; this is a clear example of what "rock and roll" does to you, it keeps you alive and young forever.
I'm commenting nine months after this was posted, but I just had to. My friend and I had the opportunity to meet Carmine backstage after a concert at the then Brendan Byrne Arena at the Meadowlands in NJ (I forget what year it was). Ron Delsner, the promoter, asked my friend and I, who were just standing around near the elevator, to bring a cart of food down to the backstage area. What a thrill it was for us to meet Carmine, because we were wannabe rock drummers and admired Carmine. Only years later, I would come to appreciate that Carmine, who was probably tired, hungry, and thirsty after the show, but still took the time to talk to a couple of nobodies for a few minutes. We were peppering him with questions about drumming until he finally had to excuse himself. The only thing we regretted was not asking for autographed drum sticks, but we were just too starstruck at the time to ask. Mr. Appice, was and remains a great drummer and an even better human being in my book. (Even though I have always been a huge Neil Peart fan, I never got to meet Neil. Nor did I ever get to meet Buddy Rich, even though I was seated very close to the band at a free outdoor concert on Pier 17 in NYC. That chance to meet Carmine remains one of highlights of my childhood.) Thanks to YT, I now get to watch Carmine and his brother Vinny, cohost a talk show, called, Artists on Lockdown, which brings in all kinds of famous and successful rock personalities to tell their stories about music, touring, recording and life. It's simply awesome to have come across this interview. THANKS!
I met Carmine at a drum clinic in Hamilton Ontario Canada. He was already gone from Ozzy’s band and was starting King Cobra at the time. He had a really nice cherry red, double bass drum kit that night. On the way out, he was standing behind a table shaking hands and signing autographs. He was a really nice guy, and boy, did he ever have a really hard, solid hit on those drums, it sounded like thunder.
I had a nice chat with Carmine at UCLA about 10 years ago. He's a great guy; personable, down to earth, happy to share. It's hard to imagine a better ambassador for the drums, and metal. Carry on, Carmine!
...and also got their “opportunity of a lifetime” to play in front of millions doing what they claim to love. Theyd be nowhere and unknown without Ozzy
@@kevinhayes2389 wrong...if it wasn't for Bob Daisley ozzy wouldn't have created those first 7 studio album's. Bob did the lyric's and bass on them. Enough said.
I met him in Houston backstage at that Ozzy gig. He just so happen to be walking around by the tour buses and semi. He was a nice guy really cool, he even signed his autograph on some photo I had torn from some magazine of him in front of some drums. Wish I still had it. And to think all that Sharon the witch drama was going on.
I was lucky enough to see Carmine on that tour. I'll never forget it. I was 5th row center, and Ozzy was absolutely insane....I mean really insane..he ripped Jake by his hair right down to the stage, and I couldn't believe it...Jake kept playing....Motley Crue opened..Shout at the Devil tour.
Ozzy's a prick. What would have been really funny is if Jake stopped playing, took off his guitar and then karate kicked Ozzy in the head. Maybe he would have started talking properly after that
@@tcjester322 Yeah haha. On with the show. Hey the good news is you're in the Ozzy band. The bad news is he's going to piss on your furniture, physically assault you and then you also won't be getting paid. Yay! But you know those guitar tracks are priceless. So thanks for making the sacrifice Jake.
I saw Carmine with Ozzy at Newcastle Mayfair ( UK ) . I had previously seen 3 shows with Lee Kerslake ( all phenomenal ) and 2 shows with Tommy Aldridge ( both brilliant but in different ways to Kerslake ) ... Carmine was phenomenal live , combining the rock solid feel of Kerslake with the flash and super chops of Aldridge . If he'd had the opportunity to stick around and record an album with that line up it would have been an incredibly powerful statement on his behalf .
I got to hang out with Carmine for several hours after an Edgar Winter show in Houston. What an awesome and down to earth guy. It was like hanging out with an old friend.
Carmine didn't actually record the drum tracks on Bark at the Moon though, Tommy did ,it just took Tommy a long time to record his parts. Bob mentions that in his book. Once fat Sharon got involved Bob and Lee were kicked out, Tommy was brought in kicked out, Carmine in then out, Jake brought in kicked out etc. Carmine seems like a good guy, and obviously a great drummer.
I met Carmine at a drum clinic he held in the Cleveland area. He was very nice to everyone in attendance. Carmine deserves a spot at the top of the Rock Drummers list, but to meet him, he didn't seem full of himself.
So its confirmed carmine Appice was on the drums when I was 11 yrs old at the cow palace Daly city /south San Francisco bark at the moon tour March of 84 , \m/ thankful we the fans didn't get double screwed because motley crue was supposed to open but instead slade opened & I heard sharon removed the crue for a while because they were out performing ozzy & having way to much fun partying with ozzy on the bus & hotels .
It's interesting because I had thought Ozzy didn't like Carmine and that's why he got the boot. Stupid me, I should have realized it was her. IT ALWAYS IS and will continue to be. Even after she's dead I bet she has it all sorted with her lawyers so no one forgets her.
I like that Carmine says he was the first "Rock Drummer" to do clinics. The man who started drum clinics and perfected them was the late, great, jazz drummer, Roy Burns (who Carmine was very good friends with).
True. Bob Daisley did say however in his book that they were becoming annoyed with Aldridge during the recording of the album because he was struggling and taking too long. I don't think his live playing was translating to the recording environment. I read an interview with Aldridge later where the major falling out was during the mix- they took out his second bass drum. That's like telling Michael Jordan you can't drive to the bucket. That was the final straw from the way I understood it. In the big picture it was probably just time for a change for both sides.
Bob is right, when his book came out the first print batch fell to pieces. He had an article in a sunday UK paper about his book. Guess what? it was pulled and replaced by a 2 page spread of Sharon in X factor.
Crazy that Sharon would do that but I’m not surprised. I’ve heard other stories of her not liking other members having a bigger name than Ozzy. Makes me wonder if that’s why they’re making new albums without Zakk and co.
she cut the power during Iron maidens set haha she's a verdictive bitch and a swindler just like her old man. she made smaller bands pay to play ozzfest , refused to give writing credits to anyone other than ozzy and if they complained they were fired, among other things.
@@Frodojack No..he always takes shot at Tommy Aldrige. Listen to any interview with him where Ozzy is mentioned. He takes obvious shots at him. C. Appice is an egomaniac and always has been. He is a great drummer and has done some cool things. But he has always believed that he was/is bigger than he was/is. He was a side project guy, yet talks like he was a founding or longtime member of the Rolling Stones.
Amazing how petty some people in this business can be. It's BUSINESS not ego. Carmine was doing nothing but providing for his family. But furthermore -- if Sharon had a business sense -- she would have realized that having a marque drummer only elevates the act that much more -- it's GOOD BUSINESS for Christ's sake.
she should have been glad Ozzy could have put together a literal super group during basically any time in the early to mid 80s.. one that surely could have rivaled the legacy of Black Sabbath...
The worst part is that she gets away with all of it. Bob Daisley, Lee Kerslake, Jake E. Lee, Carmine Appice and all the others that Sharon has ripped off, screwed over and left in her wake. She's never been made to pay for any of it and probably never will.
Basically you have to look at the Relationship between Sharon and her father Don Arden . He was her role model and he was a ruthless and unscrupulous manager and businessman that totally followed the business model of the majority of the other promoters and managers that absolutely and uneqivacobly took advantage of the artist . Sharon had to buy out Ozzys contract that he had as a member of Black Sabbath from her father leaving both her and Ozzy with no money. So they started their marriage and relationship with nothing and everything that they have accheived I have to hand it to Sharon . Ozzy was a complete wreck when they got together and look what they have accomplished together as a team very impressive.
This is sad. Tommy had his best years with Randy in The Ozzy band, according to himself. He made so many trademarks in that band, enhancing the songs live, and rerecorded the Sabbath-songs and brought them to a new level. I saw Carmine in Stockholm with Ozzy, and he destryoed the whole concert by climbing on his gonggong decorated with a bat, and play really corny beats in the songs. I saw Tommy 12 months earlier with Ozzy, and he just blew me away… But Carmine straightened up and there are som recordings on the tube from his stint with OZZY that is really good, where he actually copies Tommys playing a lot more and almost nails it. Almost. He never got the thing with Tommys double bass drums playing, which is so special and tricky to nail. Tommy did record the Bark at….- album. His sound, his fills, his trademark. Love the Thunderbolt Toms on the intro of Rock’n’roll Rebell, and just after that, a closing hihat….And he got back in the band after Carmine left, just to save Ozzs ass.. He never liked like the guy, though he was his best man when Sharon and Ozzy got married. Carmine is a great drummer, and I still dont get why he has to lie about his carrier. Why record it with Tommy, rerecord it with Carmine, take band picture with Tommy, ( Who would have been fired by that time) and then make a video with Carmine… and release the album with Tommy on the cover…If he recorded it, he would be on the cover, and get the creds.) ..Blue Murder talks for it self- superior drumming. Be proud of that instead, Carmine. If Tommy has bad timing, you got a bad memory Mr Appice.
That is so weird Ozzy just let Sharon assume complete control of his band and career without a second glance... Seems he basically let her be his death dealer for all these years... and knows she is insane but probably let morals go a long time ago for the steady income... I couldn't ever be married to someone like this let alone let her work for me..
Carmine never said himself that Tommy's tempo / timing is terrible. That was what was said to him by Sharon to bring Carmine in to replace Tommy. So all hate given to Carmine... ????? He just said yes to Sharon and Ozzy hiring him. Ozzy / Sharon were the ones that determined that Tommy Aldridge was unworthy of keeping or not carrying his weight. Sharron fired some of the best musicians in history. She had no talent.
You know, watching this and knowing how vindictive this woman is, the day after Randy says he wants to quit his plane crashes and he dies. Can’t help but think the c didn’t possibly do something to the plane. And don’t say it isn’t possible. She is evil
I don’t like Sharon at all. But I do admire her fierce protection of Ozzy. As much as I hate to admit, he’d really be toast without her. But the way she has treated his band mates has been awful.
But now that he’s the sad old man still at the party, did she really do him or us a favor? Hendrix, 27, still talked about as a legend, etc etc She was protecting her assets. The kids were probably for income security too. I wouldn’t piss on her if she was on fire.
Carmine is cool, .. but. No way in hell was tommy aldridge having tempo problems!! Get real. The man is a beast of flawless excellent drumming percussion! Who rocks the faces off of every fan in sold out stadiums! How could he have a tempo problem?
He is now. There were a lot of geeat drummers who were messed up back then by the introduction of click tracks. Danny Seraphine, Ian Paice, even Steve Smith!
"Everyone became a legend." Except Carmine - in my opinion. A good drummer, a big talker. In his defense, his experience with the Osbournes was far from unique. Sounds like he got screwed just like everybody else. They were in the process of screwing Randy Rhoads. As Tommy Aldrige told Randy, "Randy, the only way you're going to get out of these contracts is if you die."
Yeah, Tommy Aldridge has bad tempo. Then why did Tommy play on the whole album. Then why does all the big name bands ask him to play with them and not Carmine. Seriously, Sounds like Carmine is taking and ego jab at someone who was hired for more gigs than himself. He even played with John Sykes playing mostly Blue Murder tunes. Sucks to be bitter
@@Frodojack i do pay attention, and carmine left that quote lying there like a steaming turd. what a professional of carmine's level SHOULD have done for a professional of aldridge's level is discount the bs claim of druggy and his bitch.
Takes a swipe at Tommy and hides behind Sharon’s words... poor, simple little man clinging to some false sense of importance. Tommy will be remembered for all the great playing; this egomaniac will be remembered by his mustache which makes him look like a sad old biker from the Village People. He’d throw his own mother under the bus for publicity, “mom was great, but she never had my kind of success”. Go away to the old hepatitis home because it’s sad all you got is riding off other people’s names. Carmine playing drums for Rod Stewart is like the tiger king playing for Justin Bieber....
A self-promoter, yes. Conceded [sic], no. He's always had his own thing going which explains the longevity of an extraordinary career. Tommy Aldridge is a fine drummer, but not as multidimensional as Carmine. Their respective discographies illustrate the point.
That album had the right lineup. Beck needed to break completely from BBA. Good musical choice and career choice. But Carmine really was the right drummer for some things he did. Rod Stewart comes to mind.
Yea, that was a silly move by Sharon, Carmine being part of the band made the whole experience better... she couldn't see that in a silly selfish moment
Sorry. Don't believe Carmine. He loves to hear himself talk. So they fired of guy cause his timing sucks but replaced Carmine with the guy who's timing sucks???? Was in the same room w/Carmine twice due to a famous drummer that could have introduced me to him. I had Zero interest.
Stick to guitar my dude, cause you don't know REAL drumming. Carmine is a phenomenal all-around drummer, not just a hard hitting machine like Tommy. Even John Bonham once said the only drummer he feared was Carmine. Peace
The evidence that shows just what type of person Sharon is continues to come out. Carmine is a legendary drummer. He, Bob, and Jake made that album as great as it was.
Carmine never played on an Ozzy album
@@chrischoir3594 you're correct, my mistake. I've thought that was Carmine on the record all this time, I was so certain lol. I'm not that bright. It was Tommy Aldridge, correct?
Bob Daisley had his hand on the first 7 Ozzy studio album's doing the majority of the song writing and the bass for those first 6.
@@chrischoir3594 now I remember, I saw Oz do Bark at the Moon on Solid Gold and he had Carmine drumming, also I only had the cassette for that album and I dont believe it had any info on the j card.
@@yourmomsdaddy9130 Lee Kerslake drummed on Blizzard and Diary
Tommy was credited and played the gigs and the videos
TA is hugely gifted
History for many years showed TA as the drummer
Lee passed in September 20
Lee/Tommy/Carmine all great players
Some are famous for their talents in entertaining us and some are (in)famous for other reasons
Let’s leave it there
Damn....!!!!!!!!!!!! who could say this guy is 74 years old and still holds his ground; this is a clear example of what "rock and roll" does to you, it keeps you alive and young forever.
I'm commenting nine months after this was posted, but I just had to. My friend and I had the opportunity to meet Carmine backstage after a concert at the then Brendan Byrne Arena at the Meadowlands in NJ (I forget what year it was). Ron Delsner, the promoter, asked my friend and I, who were just standing around near the elevator, to bring a cart of food down to the backstage area.
What a thrill it was for us to meet Carmine, because we were wannabe rock drummers and admired Carmine.
Only years later, I would come to appreciate that Carmine, who was probably tired, hungry, and thirsty after the show, but still took the time to talk to a couple of nobodies for a few minutes.
We were peppering him with questions about drumming until he finally had to excuse himself.
The only thing we regretted was not asking for autographed drum sticks, but we were just too starstruck at the time to ask. Mr. Appice, was and remains a great drummer and an even better human being in my book. (Even though I have always been a huge Neil Peart fan, I never got to meet Neil. Nor did I ever get to meet Buddy Rich, even though I was seated very close to the band at a free outdoor concert on Pier 17 in NYC. That chance to meet Carmine remains one of highlights of my childhood.)
Thanks to YT, I now get to watch Carmine and his brother Vinny, cohost a talk show, called, Artists on Lockdown, which brings in all kinds of famous and successful rock personalities to tell their stories about music, touring, recording and life. It's simply awesome to have come across this interview. THANKS!
I met Carmine at a drum clinic in Hamilton Ontario Canada. He was already gone from Ozzy’s band and was starting King Cobra at the time. He had a really nice cherry red, double bass drum kit that night. On the way out, he was standing behind a table shaking hands and signing autographs. He was a really nice guy, and boy, did he ever have a really hard, solid hit on those drums, it sounded like thunder.
I had a nice chat with Carmine at UCLA about 10 years ago. He's a great guy; personable, down to earth, happy to share. It's hard to imagine a better ambassador for the drums, and metal. Carry on, Carmine!
lots of musicians got screwed working for ozzy
...and also got their “opportunity of a lifetime” to play in front of millions doing what they claim to love. Theyd be nowhere and unknown without Ozzy
@@kevinhayes2389kevin thats not completely true,in some cases it was a 2 way street.
Everyone did.
Maybe not Randy castillo .
Maybe he was too intimidating , beside beign a nice bloke
@@kevinhayes2389 wrong...if it wasn't for Bob Daisley ozzy wouldn't have created those first 7 studio album's. Bob did the lyric's and bass on them. Enough said.
I met him in Houston backstage at that Ozzy gig. He just so happen to be walking around by the tour buses and semi. He was a nice guy really cool, he even signed his autograph on some photo I had torn from some magazine of him in front of some drums. Wish I still had it. And to think all that Sharon the witch drama was going on.
I was lucky enough to see Carmine on that tour. I'll never forget it. I was 5th row center, and Ozzy was absolutely insane....I mean really insane..he ripped Jake by his hair right down to the stage, and I couldn't believe it...Jake kept playing....Motley Crue opened..Shout at the Devil tour.
Ozzy's a prick. What would have been really funny is if Jake stopped playing, took off his guitar and then karate kicked Ozzy in the head. Maybe he would have started talking properly after that
@@image30p it was staged, Jake knew he was going to do it, it did look like it hurt though and it probably did! 😆
@@tcjester322 Yeah haha. On with the show. Hey the good news is you're in the Ozzy band. The bad news is he's going to piss on your furniture, physically assault you and then you also won't be getting paid. Yay! But you know those guitar tracks are priceless. So thanks for making the sacrifice Jake.
I saw Carmine with Ozzy at Newcastle Mayfair ( UK ) . I had previously seen 3 shows with Lee Kerslake ( all phenomenal ) and 2 shows with Tommy Aldridge ( both brilliant but in different ways to Kerslake ) ... Carmine was phenomenal live , combining the rock solid feel of Kerslake with the flash and super chops of Aldridge . If he'd had the opportunity to stick around and record an album with that line up it would have been an incredibly powerful statement on his behalf .
No way to treat a Drum Legend, that’s why Ozzies on drugs, Carmine you’re the best , Rock on
I got to hang out with Carmine for several hours after an Edgar Winter show in Houston. What an awesome and down to earth guy. It was like hanging out with an old friend.
Sharon Osbourne is a sick individual.
More like greedy, contemptuous, petty, conniving, etc., etc.
Yep, sick
A witch of evil 🔥
Carmine didn't actually record the drum tracks on Bark at the Moon though, Tommy did ,it just took Tommy a long time to record his parts. Bob mentions that in his book. Once fat Sharon got involved Bob and Lee were kicked out, Tommy was brought in kicked out, Carmine in then out, Jake brought in kicked out etc. Carmine seems like a good guy, and obviously a great drummer.
Yeah, he's done some great recordings, but BATM drumming is pretty boring.
I like hearing cut n dry, no candy coating. Cheers
I was at that euro festival...it was in Dortmund, Germany what an amazing lineup that day!!
Still have the old VHS recording, it works and looks great four decades later...
I knew Carmine when we were all a whole lot younger, he was a neighbor when we lived on Long Island. So good to see he is still rocking and rolling!!!
Did you party with him ?
I been to a Appice clinic as a kid in NC. Had the sticks too.
Carmine is an awesome musician!
Carmine in the band made Ozzy happy. Thats what pissed Sharon off. 100%
This guy C.A is and always was Ozzy’s drummer. He is lord
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I was at the Houston show. Carmine’s solo made Ozzy’s band look like rank amateurs.
Doesn't surprise me but it is interesting. Well her time to hurt people and do evil things is rapidly drawing to a close
When he does his sharon impression.its priceless
Super nice and interesting interviu. Amazing story.
I met Carmine at a drum clinic he held in the Cleveland area. He was very nice to everyone in attendance. Carmine deserves a spot at the top of the Rock Drummers list, but to meet him, he didn't seem full of himself.
So its confirmed carmine Appice was on the drums when I was 11 yrs old at the cow palace Daly city /south San Francisco bark at the moon tour March of 84 , \m/ thankful we the fans didn't get double screwed because motley crue was supposed to open but instead slade opened & I heard sharon removed the crue for a while because they were out performing ozzy & having way to much fun partying with ozzy on the bus & hotels .
I was there dude. Ozzie Bark Tour 1984 at the Long Beach Arena. (Awesome) Age 15
Dream band: Jake E. Lee, Mike Inez, Carmine Appice and, since Ray Gillan is gone, Michael Vescera.
It's interesting because I had thought Ozzy didn't like Carmine and that's why he got the boot. Stupid me, I should have realized it was her. IT ALWAYS IS and will continue to be. Even after she's dead I bet she has it all sorted with her lawyers so no one forgets her.
“So I put Ozzy on a ladder”
That just doesn’t seem like a good idea to me.
I like that Carmine says he was the first "Rock Drummer" to do clinics. The man who started drum clinics and perfected them was the late, great, jazz drummer, Roy Burns (who Carmine was very good friends with).
Ummm he said first Rock drummer not first drummer
@@philwright2480 that’s what he said
Tommy Aldridge's tempo is terrible? Huh? He's a rock!!
True. Bob Daisley did say however in his book that they were becoming annoyed with Aldridge during the recording of the album because he was struggling and taking too long. I don't think his live playing was translating to the recording environment. I read an interview with Aldridge later where the major falling out was during the mix- they took out his second bass drum. That's like telling Michael Jordan you can't drive to the bucket. That was the final straw from the way I understood it. In the big picture it was probably just time for a change for both sides.
@@Twotontessie Regardless,it's horseshit... He's still going strong. Carmine is good too,but talks himself up his own ass....NOT COOL.
I think he was quoting Sharon's and/or Ozzy's words. Nevertheless, Tommy is great.
@@aggiejason4305 He is.
That’s what Sharon was saying about Tommy...
Bob is right, when his book came out the first print batch fell to pieces. He had an article in a sunday UK paper about his book. Guess what? it was pulled and replaced by a 2 page spread of Sharon in X factor.
Crazy that Sharon would do that but I’m not surprised. I’ve heard other stories of her not liking other members having a bigger name than Ozzy. Makes me wonder if that’s why they’re making new albums without Zakk and co.
she cut the power during Iron maidens set haha she's a verdictive bitch and a swindler just like her old man. she made smaller bands pay to play ozzfest , refused to give writing credits to anyone other than ozzy and if they complained they were fired, among other things.
tommy aldriges tempo is terrible?
in not seeing that as possible
He didn't say Tommy's tempo was terrible. He said Sharon Osbourne said Tommy's tempo was terrible.
@@Frodojack No..he always takes shot at Tommy Aldrige. Listen to any interview with him where Ozzy is mentioned. He takes obvious shots at him. C. Appice is an egomaniac and always has been. He is a great drummer and has done some cool things. But he has always believed that he was/is bigger than he was/is. He was a side project guy, yet talks like he was a founding or longtime member of the Rolling Stones.
Does it matter?
Tommy could carry Carmine's drumsticks. Carmine Appice is a. WAY BETTER DRUMMER than Tommy ever was or will be.
In the world of the GREATEST drummer's of all time.
Carmine is mentioned.
Tommy is not.
@@frankburdodrums8984 wait here you guys are arguing whos the better drummer?
COM'MON!
Lets make a movie !! The Bitch of Rock !!!
Mr Carmine is a good drummer....nuff said
Cuntasaurus Erectus🦖
Amazing how petty some people in this business can be. It's BUSINESS not ego. Carmine was doing nothing but providing for his family. But furthermore -- if Sharon had a business sense -- she would have realized that having a marque drummer only elevates the act that much more -- it's GOOD BUSINESS for Christ's sake.
she should have been glad Ozzy could have put together a literal super group during basically any time in the early to mid 80s.. one that surely could have rivaled the legacy of Black Sabbath...
Sharon is the hillary clinton of the music biz.
Sharon sucks and is the trump of music business.
Lol she was the first person that comes to mind
The worst part is that she gets away with all of it. Bob Daisley, Lee Kerslake, Jake E. Lee, Carmine Appice and all the others that Sharon has ripped off, screwed over and left in her wake. She's never been made to pay for any of it and probably never will.
Yes a certain "C" word comes to mind. LOL
Basically you have to look at the Relationship between Sharon and her father Don Arden . He was her role model and he was a ruthless and unscrupulous manager and businessman that totally followed the business model of the majority of the other promoters and managers that absolutely and uneqivacobly took advantage of the artist . Sharon had to buy out Ozzys contract that he had as a member of Black Sabbath from her father leaving both her and Ozzy with no money. So they started their marriage and relationship with nothing and everything that they have accheived I have to hand it to Sharon . Ozzy was a complete wreck when they got together and look what they have accomplished together as a team very impressive.
I bet you did not know this but one of Dons dogs attacked Sharon causing her to have a miscarriage.
It's ALWAYS the Girl who comes between bands....
This is sad. Tommy had his best years with Randy in The Ozzy band, according to himself. He made so many trademarks in that band, enhancing the songs live, and rerecorded the Sabbath-songs and brought them to a new level.
I saw Carmine in Stockholm with Ozzy, and he destryoed the whole concert by climbing on his gonggong decorated with a bat, and play really corny beats in the songs. I saw Tommy 12 months earlier with Ozzy, and he just blew me away…
But Carmine straightened up and there are som recordings on the tube from his stint with OZZY that is really good, where he actually copies Tommys playing a lot more and almost nails it. Almost. He never got the thing with Tommys double bass drums playing, which is so special and tricky to nail.
Tommy did record the Bark at….- album. His sound, his fills, his trademark. Love the Thunderbolt Toms on the intro of Rock’n’roll Rebell, and just after that, a closing hihat….And he got back in the band after Carmine left, just to save Ozzs ass.. He never liked like the guy, though he was his best man when Sharon and Ozzy got married. Carmine is a great drummer, and I still dont get why he has to lie about his carrier. Why record it with Tommy, rerecord it with Carmine, take band picture with Tommy, ( Who would have been fired by that time) and then make a video with Carmine… and release the album with Tommy on the cover…If he recorded it, he would be on the cover, and get the creds.)
..Blue Murder talks for it self- superior drumming. Be proud of that instead, Carmine.
If Tommy has bad timing, you got a bad memory Mr Appice.
I do not believe that Tommy was dismissed from Ozzy because of tempo and drum sound issues.
So wait, the biker from the Village People played drums for Ozzy? Or is this the Tiger Kings dad? So confused...🤷🏼♂️
You certainly are.
So in other words.... You aren't worthy to shine his shoes on what YOU accomplished?
That is so weird Ozzy just let Sharon assume complete control of his band and career without a second glance... Seems he basically let her be his death dealer for all these years... and knows she is insane but probably let morals go a long time ago for the steady income... I couldn't ever be married to someone like this let alone let her work for me..
How come Ozzy did use Lee Kerslake again? No disrespect to Carmine though.
Lee and Sharon hated each other. After his 10 year was over, it would be highly unlikely Sharon Osbourne would have him back in the band..
You can’t say Tommy Aldridge’s tempo is terrible......hair maybe, but not tempo!
Pay attention. He said Sharon said that.
That's when he was jamming with Jake Ely hell yeah
"Ely"?
@@cornfilledscreamer614 😆
Carmine never said himself that Tommy's tempo / timing is terrible. That was what was said to him by Sharon to bring Carmine in to replace Tommy. So all hate given to Carmine... ????? He just said yes to Sharon and Ozzy hiring him. Ozzy / Sharon were the ones that determined that Tommy Aldridge was unworthy of keeping or not carrying his weight. Sharron fired some of the best musicians in history. She had no talent.
You know, watching this and knowing how vindictive this woman is, the day after Randy says he wants to quit his plane crashes and he dies. Can’t help but think the c didn’t possibly do something to the plane. And don’t say it isn’t possible. She is evil
I thought it was the pilot trying to ram his ex wife on the ground
Too bad Ozzy never had balls to stand up to Sharon when she treats other musicians like shit.
"Calling "Tommy" A Sideman, "What a insult " The worst in the band "Is Ozzy", always has been.
I don’t like Sharon at all. But I do admire her fierce protection of Ozzy. As much as I hate to admit, he’d really be toast without her. But the way she has treated his band mates has been awful.
She’s been evil for decades.
Not protection of Ozzy. Protection of her cash cow. Make no mistake, she is a sociopath.
@@mojopin70 Well, at least saving his life for the rest of us is a side benefit.
But now that he’s the sad old man still at the party, did she really do him or us a favor? Hendrix, 27, still talked about as a legend, etc etc She was protecting her assets. The kids were probably for income security too. I wouldn’t piss on her if she was on fire.
Sharon is all about the money
I mean, maybe thats how it really happened, but I dont think Carmine was "too big", I think Carmine likes to believe he was "too big".
Believe what you want. He was THE drum star.
Tommy's tempo? What the fuck?!
Sharon is right up there with Hillary Clinton. Absolutely ruthless.
Tommy Aldridge has terrible tempo. 😂😂🤣.That’s hilarious.
Carmine is cool, .. but. No way in hell was tommy aldridge having tempo problems!! Get real. The man is a beast of flawless excellent drumming percussion! Who rocks the faces off of every fan in sold out stadiums! How could he have a tempo problem?
He is now. There were a lot of geeat drummers who were messed up back then by the introduction of click tracks. Danny Seraphine, Ian Paice, even Steve Smith!
Sharon NEVER should have been in any management position ever. She had ZERO talent other than screwing things up.
"Everyone became a legend." Except Carmine - in my opinion. A good drummer, a big talker. In his defense, his experience with the Osbournes was far from unique. Sounds like he got screwed just like everybody else. They were in the process of screwing Randy Rhoads. As Tommy Aldrige told Randy, "Randy, the only way you're going to get out of these contracts is if you die."
Tommy had to flee Black Oak Arkansas in the middle of the night for the same reason.
John Bonham is on record saying he was afraid of Carmine. He's a phenomenal drummer, powerful with incredible groove
The obvious thing is that Sharon was wasted all of those years
Yeah, Tommy Aldridge has bad tempo. Then why did Tommy play on the whole album. Then why does all the big name bands ask him to play with them and not Carmine. Seriously, Sounds like Carmine is taking and ego jab at someone who was hired for more gigs than himself. He even played with John Sykes playing mostly Blue Murder tunes. Sucks to be bitter
Carmine didn't say that, they said that to him.
Pay attention. Sharon said it. Carmine quoted her.
Aw man , lame . Good story though I read that in your book 👋 ( bob ferrignos drummer)
"his tempo is awful...."
sure carmine
It wasn't Carmine that said that, he was quoting
Some folks don't pay attention. Carmine was quoting Sharon.
@@Frodojack i do pay attention, and carmine left that quote lying there like a steaming turd. what a professional of carmine's level SHOULD have done for a professional of aldridge's level is discount the bs claim of druggy and his bitch.
I call bullshit on tommy's tempo
carrion grossbourne , is a damn crook for years !!!
Spoiled matzo ball witch 😎😎😎😎
Takes a swipe at Tommy and hides behind Sharon’s words... poor, simple little man clinging to some false sense of importance. Tommy will be remembered for all the great playing; this egomaniac will be remembered by his mustache which makes him look like a sad old biker from the Village People. He’d throw his own mother under the bus for publicity, “mom was great, but she never had my kind of success”. Go away to the old hepatitis home because it’s sad all you got is riding off other people’s names. Carmine playing drums for Rod Stewart is like the tiger king playing for Justin Bieber....
Ron Jeremy throttled 500 pound Cajun Queens👍
I always thought that Carmine was conceded. This confirms it. Taking a swipe at Tommy Aldridge, there was a better way to say it with more grace.
I know exactly what you mean. Yes, Carmine is full of himself. At least Tommy has real hair and, Appice wears a wig/Hairpiece.
A self-promoter, yes. Conceded [sic], no. He's always had his own thing going which explains the longevity of an extraordinary career. Tommy Aldridge is a fine drummer, but not as multidimensional as Carmine. Their respective discographies illustrate the point.
Overrated as hell.
Well, he said that's what Sharon said about Tommy. But, he does have an ego.
@@ciadella1971 but carmine COULD have followed the statement up with "but that is bs"
Lose the wig, Carmine, because you aren't fooling anyone with that thing. 🤣
He can't, the rug has it's own contract plus a future book in the works: Realistic Weave.
So glad she got cancelled
Cant get past the constant "shades in the studio" thing...way too pretentious....not sure Carmine actually has eyes
Thank god he wasn't on Blow by Blow. His simpleton bashing didn't belong. George Martin was right.
That album had the right lineup. Beck needed to break completely from BBA. Good musical choice and career choice. But Carmine really was the right drummer for some things he did. Rod Stewart comes to mind.
@@luther_beckett Not knocking his skills at all, the velvet touch of Bailey allowed Martin to shine production wise.
@@johnberg2658 Definitely. No way to imagine that album with a rocker.
Yea, that was a silly move by Sharon, Carmine being part of the band made the whole experience better... she couldn't see that in a silly selfish moment
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First he “invents” all of Bonham’s style, then he is better than Tommy Aldridge? Come on.
Wrong drummer for Ozzy.
Why?
@@DrJ-hx7wv He’s too big. Ozzy needed great unknowns. Ozzy’s number one. Ozzy has to be the big guy.
Not cool to slag another drummer
Clearly jealous of Tommy. In my opinion he couldn't carry Tommy's stick bag
You're clueless.
Sorry. Don't believe Carmine. He loves to hear himself talk. So they fired of guy cause his timing sucks but replaced Carmine with the guy who's timing sucks???? Was in the same room w/Carmine twice due to a famous drummer that could have introduced me to him. I had Zero interest.
Carmine Appice, on his best day, isn’t worthy to polish Tommy ‘s sticks. Tommy is miles above Carmine.
Stick to guitar my dude, cause you don't know REAL drumming. Carmine is a phenomenal all-around drummer, not just a hard hitting machine like Tommy. Even John Bonham once said the only drummer he feared was Carmine. Peace
@@RockbertoRocks not as good as Tommy.
Ron Jeremy bonked the potter twins.