BIKE PACKING | MY BASIC EQUIPMENT for wild camping | Kit list, items | REVIEW
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- My bike packing equipment that I consider the minimum essential required to complete an overnight WIld Camp.
Share my enthusiasm for cycling and nature and see what goes into my bike bags.
See an itinerary list, with individual weights and a total weight of under 7kg!
TARPS:
DD 3 x 3 TARP:
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DD Magic Carpet XL:
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SLEEP MAT:
THERM-A-REST Prolite plus:
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BIKE BAGS:
Saddle Bag:
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Handle Bar Bag 7l:
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Handle Bar Bag 12l:
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Roswheel Series of Bags:
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Blackburn Top Tube Bag:
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Frame Bag (or similar)
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FOLDING STOVE (or similar):
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HEAD TORCH:
Alpkit (or similar) (Petzl)
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POTS:
Tomshoo Ti Mugs:
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Similar product:
Ultralight 750ml Titanium Pot Portable Titanium Water Mug Cup with Lid and Foldable Handle Outdoor Camping Cooking Picnic
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Spirit Stove:
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Morakniv Outdoor Companion Knife:
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Bungees:
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extra:
Firesteel:
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By far the most useful and practical video I have seen regarding kit lists. The choices are sensible in terms of cost and quality. Thank you for posting.
I really appreciate your feedback. Thanks for your support 👍🏻
For beginners I would strongly recommend a tent instead of a tarp setup.
You could get a lightweight 1 person tent for the same weight and price of a tarp and bivvy.
790g + 500g + cordage =~ 1400g
£35 + £40 + £5 = £80
Either way, I really enjoy the video and lots of quality advice. Thumbs up!
Thanks Andrei. Good advice. 👍🏻 I have a tent as well but personally I prefer the tarp. Thanks for your support.
@@divum I was mainly aiming to offer advice to beginners; as I once was a really miserable and sad beginner with my tarp setups, for a few years in a row, even though I had compact and lightweight setups and I knew how to pitch them. I discovered I am well better in a tent, as I enjoyed the much faster pitching and and packing times, plus the extra comfort. The hammock was also a no go for me, as no mather how many setups (some quite expensive) I have tried, I would not get a good nights rest as I did in an enclosed tent.
I'm not sure you can get a 1.4k tent for £80.
Hard not to disagree with your logic. I use a tent, simply because I prefer them to tarps. I have both and on occasion I use my tarp for one dry night out, otherwise it’s the tent for me.
Alpkit soloist £140 at 1.2kg. I waa going to go for tarp and bivi bag until the rain lashing on my skylight last night made me think twice 😅
Great vid. So helpful. Thanks!
Thanks
Very helpful, thanks.
That’s a really useful kit list, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you. Very useful info for a newbie day bike camp guy...
Your very welcome!
Wow thanks for sharing. Learned a lot about what to carry during bike packing.
Excellent. Thanks.
Please check out my other videos for entertainment!
Agree with other comments here! Most informative breakdown I’ve seen! Awesome Thanks!
Awesome, thank you!
Great advice for my upcoming bikepacking trip.
Good to hear. I hope your trip goes well.
As a person who loves check lists, thank you, for an informative video
Cheers.
great video. no nonsense!
Thanks Ant, appreciate your feedback👍
Love how not only stream lined ur gear is but how you also put in the essentials as well. Good job 👏 👍
Thanks John
Excellent video. Really clear.
Thanks for your comment. I appreciate your feedback. Best regards 👍🏼
This Was Awesomeness.....I Just discovered this hahaha....Super Great Info Thanks
Welcome!
Great vid. I've been thinking of bikepacking for a while. Just ordering some bag before I head off for the Norfolk coast. Thanks for the tips.
Thank you for your support and kind feedback. I'm hoping to do a video on North Norfolk very soon!...
@@divum fantastic. I'll look forward to that. There are some nice areas. I'm yet to cycle it but know it all reasonable well. 😃
Thank you! Great suggestions and being that you seem like such an awesome individual, I am getting a few of these very suggestions you have made! Thank you!
Watch my other video on tarps - You might like to look at options for the LOMO tarp its currently £29 on Amazon
LUMO 3x3 Tarp:
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DD 3 x 3 TARP:
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DD Magic Carpet XL:
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Nice, sensible list. I'm very fussy with sleeping bags, so although it weighs 2.3kgs and will stuff into a 15l drybag, I can move and it's super warm. It's a British army one. I spent extra on the sleeping mat to compensate bulk and weight. Thanks for sharing your insights, much appreciated 🙏
Brilliant. Thanks very much 👍🏻
Thank you, very informative. A few safety thoughts of mine : map, compass, GPS, phone, first aid kit.....
Absolutely!
Thanks for the comment
Great video
Appreciate it👍🏻🚴🏼
I like the idea of the sleeping bag liner.
Take long wool underwear instead. Same weight and multipurpose.
I like that idea
At 61 years old I guess you could call me an experienced bike packer by now and I found this a reliable introduction to the sport. It's a nice blend of general items and specialized kit, with money spent where you shouldn't skimp, like the sleeping mat. No insistence on big-ticket items but no ideolologically-driven DIY crap. I'm a tarp guy too but recently I used it in a very strong breeze on the Devon coast and there was just too much canvas exposed to the wind. Find sheltered campsites or go with a tarp tent like my MLD Duomid.
Thank you for your open appraisal. I appreciate your feedback.
I have the same kit. Works great
Great to hear!
brilliant content
Thanks so much
I am here to support you.
Many thanks.
Still a beginner bikepacker. All tips come in handy
We're learning all the time! Especially me! Thanks for watching
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Good Job
Thanks
I don't see why anyone wouldn't like and find this useful? Thanks DIVUM
Thank you so much 😊👍🏼
silk liner is so much smaller
Quite comprehensive video. You should have more subscriber.
Thanks!, I hope that people will subscribe...please share the video. Thanks
i liked it
Thanks - 👍
Army Goretex bivvy bags definitely weigh more than 500 grams.
nicely done. camera, edits, narration .... I'm going to keep an eye on you for a bit. Maybe knock the music down a few more db's. Would have liked to see the bivy bag opened and details.
Thanks for the constructive criticism - I appreciate your support. Cheers
Good video! Although some of todays tents (like the $230 "Lunar Solo" from Six Moons Design) are actually more lightweight and compact than just that tarp alone - and having that mesh to protect from bugs is pretty essential if you ask me. I also think i prefer those good ol' panniers, which gives me a good spot to place a "big" 28W solar panel. I am NOT a fan of the idea of sitting and for several hours at some restaurant or gas station, waiting for my batteries to charge. As i have 2 of these solar panels, i can charge at least up to 7200mAh in just 1 hour if it is really sunny. Thats enough for 35 hours of normal use with my Garmin "eTrex 32x" GPS :P
Thanks for the comment. I'll check out that tent. Thanks again
However, there are also lighter weight tarps. Even DD hammocks has a ~200 gram lighter tarp of the same size (the superlight I believe). Costs a bit more, but not too much.
we are in the UK - the weather is not for solar panels - but its great if you are traveling abroad and across, btw - are you using cycling computers for navigation or phone+apls?
I have a solar charger, but it never works in UK!!!!
Done🤜🏿🔥🤛🏽
awesome gear list mate! Your overall rig + kit list is like my XL mtb! I am also preferring the Tarp solution!
Thanks Alex! It's basic, simple, economical... And works! Thanks for watching. 👍🏼🚴🏾♀️
@@divum indeed , indeed - how you solve the navigation problem ( in case you go to Scotland or Wales ?)
I use my GARMIN 820 bike computer for route Navigation and o=Ordnance Survey (OS) Map App on my phone for off route navigation.
@@divum nice, so it comes up for the battery bank etc or a solar panels. thank you for your knowledge! I really appreciate it!
Just in case - if you will be up for the Great North Trail - hit me up ( March - onwards)
also your alcohol stove and fuel weight more than a small 100g Isobutane can and a BRS titanium stove (5000t? model).
Thank you.
great video new subscriber
Thank you
I have all of these metric conversions and money equivalence running through my head. Next video would you plz throw some American conversions in there. Very useful info. Thanx
Will do
Seems like a lot of stuff for one overnighter but, as you say, it is your list and we all have different ideas of what we want. Bare essential for an overnighter to me means a thick bin bag to keep the weather off, a tin of food and a water filter kit. Not that most of us (including me) would put up with that, but it would be a truer meaning of bare essentials. Good video though :)
Thank for your comment. I have other videos showing my water filter kit and other equipment, and what influences my choice of kit. Food and drink are necessary for live so I didn't include them. I just wanted to inspire people to have a go at bike packing and wild camping starting at economical entry point.
Thanks again for your feedback 👍🏼
Have you actually tried to camp in a bin bag? Probably not as it's a ridiculous idea, they're not long enough, you'd have a lot of condensation and you'd have a miserable night. Also a 'tin of food' would weigh a lot more than some dried food and be bulkier. Also you'd just take a water filter would you, just for an over nighter? You wouldn't bother going to the effort of taking a litre or so of clean water, you'd rather go to the effort of filtering water from a dirty puddle or pond or something??
I thought the video was consise and informative, also good for people on a budget, also he didn't even suggest that was the gear for just one night. Some people on here just say things for effect, you go and sleep in a bin bag, see how you get on ya wally
Bravo! Good but a bit heavy kit! Good Luck!
Thanks!
Great video. Respect the price point you got your stuff at. Amazing value.
Thanks for the comment. No need to spend a fortune. My approach is "just get out on your bike and have fun*🚲👍🏼
@@divum absolutely. Good tools that do the job at the right price. Good work sir!
Cheers
I'd add in extra charges wire's & a backpackers style solar panels maybe batteries 🔋 banks for peace of mind 😉 😜
Portable power bank is essential, I agree. Recharges cell/mobile phone, bike computers and lights.Thanks
Lovely video, just wanted to know one thing regarding your sleep arrangement...tarp, bivy, liner, down quilt and sleeping mat, wouldn't it be easier to carry a tent and a good sleeping bag instead? would save weight too, I imagine...I do appreciate that you did not waste money on buying ridiculously expensive bikepacking bags though...u have a sub right here!
Thanks for your question. And I really appreciate your sub.
I have a tent but most of the time a tarp is more versatile. The sleeping bag choice is mainly on size. A mat is always going to beat sleeping on the ground and the bivi and liner provide extra warmth and protect your sleeping bag. But there are no rules! What ever works for you 👍🏻
Don't forget that temperature ratings on sleeping bags are only true if your pad is rated for the same temperatures. If you still want to go lightweight with no pad, use a thin emergency blanket, it will help a little ! But regarding the tent, I definitely agree, the last thing I want to do is fix a hiking pole to my frame :-) Around 250g more !
The spiritus stove can be used in the other, foldable stove as well, I guess. As far as you know does it leak?
That's right. They are generally good. But there is a rubber ring inside the lid, which can degrade over time, if this happens then the spirit stove may dribble a little. Try to avoid putting the lid on a hot stove to preserve the ring. Hope this helps
Hmmm. Nice vid, nice suggestions. Do you have any place left for clothes and food?
Thanks for the comment. I use a small day sack or rucksack to carry clothing and camera stuff!. Hope this helps.
Leatherman Wave, you don't need that little swiss army knife, and might be able to get rid of that knife too.
Thanks Sean for your comment. I love my Leatherman too! Always worth having a second knife (just my humble opinion.)👍
what clothes did you take
Fully loaded at 18kg? Er... my bike weighs 16.4kg alone 😢😂 still... can't wait to get bk out in the field. Get out this concrete jungle for a bit. Cool video bro💯👍😎
Cheers Curtis! Have a good adventure. Thanks for supporting the channel.👍
@@divum yw😊 im currently seeking out cycle routes on Google maps for this weekend's adventure. Have a blessed weekend. New Sub👍😎
The metal clasp on your sleeping mat wil create an issue resulting in a leak
We are doing the GAP trail...What about clothing!? Call me high maintenance but I can't sleep in my bike shorts lol.
Clothing can be so personal - that's why I didn't mention it in this video, however, I never go bike packing without my Down Jacket. Its super small and weight weight but awesomely comfortable and warm. I always take a wooly hat and a set of full length leggings with high lycra content. These pack small and give good bang for ya' buck in warmth and convenience. A water proof Gortex wind jacket is also essential.
When it comes to camp, I try to have one "dry" set of socks and under clothes which I can wear under cover and then the cycle tights/bid shorts and riding gear for the day. - Hope this helps. GOOD LUCK
Instead of that Swiss army knife you may want to look at the Victorinox Tinker Swiss army knife. It has a Philip's head driver instead of the corkscrew which could be significantly more useful in certain situations.
Thanks Jude. Well noted.
Never travel without a corkscrew😉 Highly risky🍷
Absolutely! It depends on priority... Tighten that loose screw, or open a bottle of red and relax! 🍷😉😁
dont forget the coffee maker!!
Yes absolutely! 👍🏼☕🚴♀️
What kind?
Thanks for the great video! All the Information is very useful but I think everyone should be aware of you not being quite accurate on how much you spent on certain things, such as Bike Bags.
The Blackburn Top Tube Bag & Frame Bag that you linked in the description ALONE are already at 64 pounds.
In your video you said 55 pounds for the whole Bike Bag set - that doesn't add up.
It makes it sound so cheap to buy all this equipment whereas in reality you'd definitely spend quite a bit more than 360 pounds for this entire kit.
Thanks very much for your comments.
The prices I quote were True and Accurate at the time of filming. I always look for offers and discounts. The bike bag prices are exactly what I paid, but please note the video is now a few years old, and we have suffered high inflation for the last year. Thanks again for watching 👍🏻
Hello, which drone do you use for those great overheads?
I use. A DJI MAVIC AIR. But not in this video!
I think with the extras you're taking to offset the others eg the bivvy bag and liner, you might as well have a tent and bigger sleeping bag. The total weight is about what I carry.
Absolutely. Choice is yours. I like to mix and match and often use a tent. Thanks for watching 👍🏼
@@divum Yeah personal choice. I've often considered a tarp but the lack of comfort ultimately puts me off.
Good one! You should perhaps look at the tilt of your saddle though, it seems a bit backwards tilted, thats normally rather uncomfortable.
Thanks!
Toilet roll & wet wipes? Genuine question re. toileting & general washing. Great youtube channel btw.
🤔I'm not sure how to answer that! (I carry a "possibles pouch" with that sort of thing) Thanks for watching
@@divum Don't be shy! We all have to go ;-)
Thanks for sharing your list but why not save weight, bulk and improve comfort! Get a lightweight tent (circa £60 800g e.g. 3f ul ) and ditch the tarp, bungies and bivy bag. A lightweight gas stove and fuel or just the trangia would save weight and bulk over carrying 2 stoves, you only need 1 titanium pot, so ditch one, with all that bulk saving you could loose a bag so saving you close to 2 kg, just MHI. Keep creating content and might see you out there soon.
Oh yeah and an inflatable mat rather than a self inflating one
Thanks Max for your comments. I have a pretty good 1 person tent that I use and lots of other optional equipment. It all depends how far, how long, the terrain etc etc. I usually take some clothes and food as well! I wish you you well with what ever stuff you take and works for you.
@@stickyprickle You can't get a 800g tent for £60!
@@garymitchell5899 well I’d beg to differ , just search Ali express for a flames creed 1 person tent and see how you go, I have on that I paid £53 but it may have gone up by £10 - 20.
What is the brand of saddlebag you are using? The link won’t open for me in the United States. Thanks!
The saddle bag is ROSWHEEL 10 litre. About £25 or $30 usd
Thanks for watching
Not a bad video but if you believe them figures on that sleeping bag you'll be in for some cold night's thanks for posting
Thanks Benson, your right, they are only for guidance, but honestly from my experience and testing the sleeping bag in. Cold (freezing) conditions, it was good. Thanks for watching.
how heavy is the bike when the "engine" , ie you, is mounted? what about food and water?2kg of water per day minimum.
Thanks Victor, Bike is 10.5kg, I'm 90kg . Obviously food and water and clothing for survival! But that's not what the kit list is about. I was focusing on what you you need for a basic over night setup. I hope that helps.
Hi. Loved the video, but I stopped at your cooking set.
I would say your alcohol burner is relatively the least effective way to cook out there. It provides 1000 W, compared to 3000 W of a gass burner. This means it's going to take a long time to do anything.
Additionally, the amount of fuel you'll have to bring will out-weigh pretty much all other options. I can burn through a smaller bottle of alcohol in a couple of days. On the other hand, 100 grams of gass, that is, the smallest option, provide 12,5 boils of 0,5 L. (Google the REI Gass test.). This was done at sea levels in ideal conditions. In normal practice, this is closer to 10 boils. (PS: If you're at higher altitude, windy areas, boil cold water/snow, the number of boils naturally decreases. However, all these conditions effect the alcohol stove and gass burner the same.)
There's nothing wrong with an alcohol stove. Like any tool it there's a context. It's small and compact. High durability, because they're generally built like a tank. As opposed to gass, you can find alcohol fuel almost anywhere in the world. It's silent. This means you can get up, have a cup of warm drink, while your sleepy friends can get their rest. Gass sounds like a Harriet Jet is hovering right above your head. However, to say alcohol stove is more effective would be incorrect as far as I know: In terms of fuel storage, fuel efficiency, and boil time.
My personal lightweight setup is a tiny mini-stove (48 gram) that I screw on a gass canister (200 gr.). Stove cost 10$ at a hardware store. Both of these things fit inside your "big" pot that you got in your video, together with your spork and a foldable cup.
That said, I love the video as a whole. It was down to earth (expenses down) and I learned a lot. This hobby is for everyone and you're contributing to more people not being scared away by expensive gear. It's awesome.
Thanks so much #Wille k, for your comment. Great advice. I usually use the spirit stove for my morning coffee/breakfast and generally use the wood burning stove in the evenings (resourcing local combustibles) - the problem with this is smoke smell and sparks! If I go on longer trips I would agree that a better fuel system would be beneficial, like gas. Thanks again and Cheers
The mora knives are the best for the money, maybe the best for even double the money you pay
Yes I agree. Its a great knife. Kept sharp for over 3 years (albeit gentle use) {Sorry for the delay in reply.}
@@divum I've got 2, had them each for 5 years barely aany sharpening at all, ones got a thicker black great for crafting stuff, other thinner blade great for general use
Do have links listed to the specific products?
I'll add a couple of links to the description, but generally try Amazon & Mountainwarehouse.
REMEBER - ALWAYS SEARCH for a Mountainwarehouse code, because they often give 20% discount as well as store/online discounts
Clothes?
Moskitos 1 - Tarp 0
Have you tried hammock and tarp?
Hi Benjamin, NO I haven't used a hammock yet.... Looking forward to getting one though! Thanks for your support
DIVUM well worth a try, very comfortable, still need a roll mat tho as when the insulation on sleeping bag gets squashed you get cold spots
Bivy bag + tarp = 1.250g.
Zpacks fully enclosed and fully waterproof 2 person tent = 540g.
Cmon man, do your research.. ;)
Are you talking about the Zpack Two Person tent that actually weighs 550 g and costs $599!!! ....
Plus the tarp has room to shelter his bike
I guess some people like tarps and others prefer an enclosed bug free shelter that lightweight tents offer.
KNIVES#
just 3 kgs heavier than my fatbike bikepacking setup not bad
Cheers! 👍🏼
To go ultra lightweight is eventually pointless. What you gain in minimal weight savings is more than offset by inconvenience and loss of comfort. Plus a fatbike is obviously much heavier anyway, for no gain. Some strange trade-offs going on here.
@@garymitchell5899 my Fatbike is only 8 kgs
@@Bikepacking Mate, the minimum weight for a pro road bike is 7kg. The wheels alone on a fatbike would be that.
Why on earth do these dreamers end up in the comments. His numbers don't add up. His story is BS. He's never been further than the end of his drive. Utter utter noob.
"It's not uncommon for a time trial bike in the Tour de France to weigh in the region of 8-9kg"
A time trial bike in the TDF!! Utter dreamer.
Is there a written list on here?
Hi Darren. Yes, there is a written list toward the end of the video. It's within the video and not in the description.
What do you eat?
Thanks for the question. I generally take packet food like "Wayfarer" meals, or cheaper options from local supermarkets as meal options. I also take loads of cereal bars. It depends how long I'm going for. I get resupplies at service stations, cafés, corner shops etc. Sometimes I take dehydrated meals but then I need more water to prepare them. I also eat a lot of cake! Cake has loads of calories.
Food and clothing are people's personal choice. Maybe someone has a dietary requirement or allergy, therefore I haven't covered food in this video. Thanks again
Where is the food and water bottles?
Water bottles bottom left and food is entirely up to you my friend!
Do you eat food?
Lol!
And what about water!
Water bottles bottom left! Too obvious to mention...
You’re missing a pint of good ale!
You're right Erik! Check out my other videos and see what I usually take!
Army gortex bivi bah weight of 500 grams.... I disagree.... They weigh more like 900g....
Cheers Adrian. I did weigh everything but perhaps my scale was mis-calibrated. Take care,
I'd rather be in a tent and not be eaten by bugs like ticks.
Don't you take extra clothes on your bag?
Great comment, yes I absolutely do, check out my other videos for that. This video is aimed at a single night out basic kit, food, water and clothing are optional! (covered in other vids)
Tarp = ample protection? Never quite got that one. A tarp will likely protect you from rain and wind and that is about it. Protection from bugs, both flying and ambulant is zero. Dependent on location, protection from foraging mammals and wriggly things is also about zero. Protection from ground damp also more or less zero. Give me a bug-proof tent with a bath-tub groundsheet anytime. Otherwise, a useful and informative video for which I thank you.
Also, the mystique of Gortex needs busting just a little. I've used Gortex in different ways and frankly the idea that it does not hold body moisture is overrated. 'Breathable' is a relative and certainly not an absolute term. Like much of your other stuff, paying from brands may lose the grammes but it loads ion the pounds (GBP) big time.
I've also found that bag liners are a total nuisance, often getting twisted up in the night. I prefer to wear long sleeved and legged thermals that protect the bag and are far better insulation. They work in both summer and winter.
I applaud the Thermarest - mine is a trad original full length and gives both comfort and extra barrier against cold.
Thanks again for the video. You've certainly got the weight down.
Thanks UKPaul. A very comprehensive comment.
The video is offered at people who want to tryout bike packing for a night or two. I have other videos looking at tents v tarps.
I have used tarps for years in the UK and they prove great for protection where the overnight stay is brief and the ride is more important.
I like stopping in woods where its often impractical to put up a tent.
Thanks for watching.
dont take much in the way of clothes then
your bivi bag cover and the tarp would weight as much a UL tent.
also why even bother with a 5C sleeping bag when youre going to bring a liner too? just buy a 0C sleeping bag.
I find that having layers provides better options. I can use the bivi bag by itself when the weather is warm but raining; I can use the liner (or not) if I want extra warmth. Why buy a 0 degree sleeping bag and then roast when it's mild? You mention an UL (ultra light?), yes a tent is an option, but the tarp has many advantages and for me offers more versatility than an a tent, especially if I'm riding an Audax. I have chosen my items from years of experience trekking and riding and they work as a basic, economical bare essentials from which I can mix and match. I offer my suggestions as a friendly advice but no one has to take it!
Thanks for your comment and I wish you well.
@@divum each his own walk. i personally found out a good little tent is better than fiddling with a tarp, its also free standing and has a floor in case of rain/snow.
i rather carry 300more gram and have more easy usability than try and safe weight and struggle in the field.
i live in Canada and its always cold or wet, so comfort is paramount to me. maybe in the US in place where its mostly good warm weather you can get away with just a blanket and your pair of shoes.
@@Francois_Dupont Yeah, I agree. Although it's personal choice.
@@garymitchell5899 of course i cannot judge just based on the final list of item. maybe i was too quick on the draw considering different climate, terrain and carrying capability.
Drogat
Great vid, extremely useful. Thank you.
Thanks very much. I appreciate your feed back.