A 1960's Cyma watch repair attempt, fixing a previous repair gone bad?

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  • In this video, I will be restoring a vintage CYMA watch movement from the late 1960s. This watch was a reward for the long service provided by my stepfather's dad in 1969 from the company he worked for. It had an odd issue that caused it to wind stiffly, perform poorly, and run for a short amount of time. I will be going through the process of cleaning and lubricating the movement components, and I will also be tracking down and repairing the fault. I will be showing you the before and after results. Although this video is provided for entertainment, I hope that you learn something from it. Enjoy!
    The movement had stopped working and had a very difficult winding crown. Despite having a new bearing fitted previously, the movement had a very low amplitude of just 110 degrees. The watch was stripped down and cleaned, the barrel bridge repaired and the crown replaced. The amplitude was improved to 190-200 degrees and the overall timing was adjusted. The case and bracelet were cleaned and buffed and the watch is now working perfectly.
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    The watch was a lovely reminder of my stepfather's dad and was a very special project to work on. The movement was well constructed and had a few nice design touches which made it stand out. Once the repair was complete, the watch was a pleasure to use. It was a great feeling to bring it back to life and to have it working as it should. The watch was a great success and I was proud to have been able to restore it. It was a great reminder of the importance of family and of the craftsmanship and precision of watchmaking.
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  • @WatchRepairChannel
    @WatchRepairChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +20

    In this video, I will be restoring a vintage CYMA watch movement from the late 1960s. This watch was a reward for the long service provided by my stepfather's dad in 1969 from the company he worked for. It had an odd issue that caused it to wind stiffly, perform poorly, and run for a short amount of time. I will be going through the process of cleaning and lubricating the movement components, and I will also be tracking down and repairing the fault. I will be showing you the before and after results. Although this video is provided for entertainment, I hope that you learn something from it. Enjoy!

    • @jz9189
      @jz9189 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Been a minute. Nice to see you again sir!

    • @da___man
      @da___man ปีที่แล้ว

      Wish you would have shown the fix you did to the barrel arbor since that was the key issue with amplitude being so low.

    • @michaeldimmitt2188
      @michaeldimmitt2188 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@da___man Yes please. And what was the jewelers tool and how do you use it?

    • @bigscotty3522
      @bigscotty3522 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any interest in repairing a sekonda watch which runs then stops. New battery fitted, local watch repair can't repair and has come back from sekonda saying model obsolete so can't repair?

  • @jerrysanchez5453
    @jerrysanchez5453 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Honestly I'm very impressed with how beautiful that movement is.maybe it's it's camera angle or lighting but it's stunning

  • @martinlouden9005
    @martinlouden9005 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great to see you back Mark. Yours are among the very few videos that I never hit the fast forward button! Most enjoyable.

  • @paynemaker
    @paynemaker ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Glad to see you back at it. Cheers!

  • @alaindrolet_atlt_2019
    @alaindrolet_atlt_2019 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So happy to see your work on TH-cam again. Absolutely interesting video, image, comments and explanation are perfect. You are the best for me, I will begin my third session next month so happy that you are a large part of my success !! Best regard Mark from Canada !

  • @wbfaulk
    @wbfaulk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an unusually attractive unadorned movement. It reminds me of mid-century modern electronics gear: simple, but high-quality materials put together without adornment, letting the function define the form. It just exudes a confidence in engineering: let the device speak for itself.
    Nice to see you back!

  • @billmason2785
    @billmason2785 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for being back....My ♥ ♥ heart is singing

  • @Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968
    @Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see you back on YT Mark.
    That is a lovely watch with a heap of family history.
    Good to see it fixed up for a few more years.

  • @Enishidono
    @Enishidono ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I had your knowledge, patience, skill, memorization and access to all those wonderful tools.

  • @PMS1950
    @PMS1950 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video. Of special interest as I still have my 1966 Cyma Watersport, which continues to provide excellent service and keeps superb time. Having had one service, I think I should be kind and treat it to a clean and general inspection.

  • @gryfandjane
    @gryfandjane ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s quite a lovely movement, isn’t it? Simple but elegant. Thanks for another excellent repair! Much appreciated, as always.

  • @stillededge
    @stillededge ปีที่แล้ว

    Gracefully made movement & service! 👍👍

  • @dennisallport5704
    @dennisallport5704 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahhh, very nice to hear your expert voice again. Hope all is well! That's an interesting lower balance jewel shock spring/lever!

  • @Looey
    @Looey ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW - What a difference in the crowns' knurling ! Not an Incabloc lyre shaped piece, but another anti-shock method...Thank you very much. I have a great time watching these videos.

  • @Al-po2oh
    @Al-po2oh ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to see you again Mark. Cheers

  • @cristobalosuna3106
    @cristobalosuna3106 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such quality videos are a joy to watch

  • @andre-dx4yw
    @andre-dx4yw ปีที่แล้ว

    Enrolled on your coarse have completed the first 2 coarses and just stripped down and serviced my first seagull 2824 movement following your eta2824 video. i left out the date wheel components as i dont have that function on my watch. really pleased although no timegrapher yet i have decent screwdrivers and tweezers, mobius oils and grease but my movement holder is aweful. thankyou for all the great info and advice. Really enjoying the experience

  • @speenlmar9575
    @speenlmar9575 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see you back, I started watching restoration videos with your educational clips. Needless to say you are a true master of your trade.

  • @sjurgabriel
    @sjurgabriel ปีที่แล้ว

    What a pleasure it is to see you at work again :-) A lovely, clean movement design!

  • @tiberiuvincze8288
    @tiberiuvincze8288 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see you back, so nice movement and what a shock spring !!!, some very nice tech solutions in this caliber! Thank you you for sharing this!

  • @rossjackson3670
    @rossjackson3670 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    So pleased to see you once again on the 'tube'. As part of your entourage it is good to continue learning. Have a good New Year.

    • @robincornish1769
      @robincornish1769 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lovely watch, expertly diagnosed and restored, as ever. Did you notice, I think, the hour wheel dial washer was upside-down when dissembling? It took me a while to reason which way they should be 'up' when I started, so always take notice. Or does it not really matter that much? Now that I have understood, I think that it does.

  • @cleitonwille
    @cleitonwille ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so glad to hear you back! Thank you for all the knowledge you have provided me.

  • @Starlord85
    @Starlord85 ปีที่แล้ว

    More videos please . Really missed them

  • @martinlloyd7563
    @martinlloyd7563 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely repair and service.

  • @OldProgers
    @OldProgers ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see you back!

  • @MrFredrictai
    @MrFredrictai ปีที่แล้ว

    so happy to see the Watch Repair Channel logo shows up again!!!

  • @magintysmaw
    @magintysmaw ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see you again on TH-cam Mark, first class action + all the best for 23 👍

  • @chrisc475
    @chrisc475 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay! Welcome back Mark!

  • @100amps
    @100amps ปีที่แล้ว

    What a pleasant surprise. Nice watch, and as always, nice work. Thanks!

  • @panoscharos983
    @panoscharos983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sentimentaly... carefull... congratulations... regards from Athens Greece...

  • @MotoEPhil
    @MotoEPhil ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best of luck in the new year Mark!

  • @ajbones4207
    @ajbones4207 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good God! Mark, is that you? It's been a while my good sir. You are sorely missed. Hoping you and your family are in good health and spirits. Now with my hot cup of Earl Grey I can enjoy and relax while I throw my lady friend out of my house and enjoy, you're vid in peace. Cheers!

  • @amandagelien9612
    @amandagelien9612 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is always a pleasure to see a pro at work 😀

  • @carloscarvalhido2424
    @carloscarvalhido2424 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome back. You were missed :)

  • @kevgermany
    @kevgermany ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome back. Nice watch.

  • @Looey
    @Looey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice looking watch !

  • @melody3741
    @melody3741 ปีที่แล้ว

    Swiss movements in the 60’s that are beveled and plated are some of the prettiest ever.

  • @michaelkeats1313
    @michaelkeats1313 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great service and great video work 👍

  • @MILITAWATCH
    @MILITAWATCH ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great you are back!

  • @davelowey3074
    @davelowey3074 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mark, that was fun, i haven't been inside a Cyma as yet they look a little different on the balance cap jewels the spring mainly, but i will hopefully, great video mate. Dave from UK

  • @cashau2965
    @cashau2965 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...nice...you're always THE master... 👏👍

  • @dsb1763
    @dsb1763 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to have you back Mark! Only critic I would say is have a softer outer edge on the crown you chose. The one you used looks like a gear to me. Anyway, great job as always.

  • @wildernessofzinn17
    @wildernessofzinn17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow!. Good to see you back, Mark. I am near the end of class 3 and anxiously await class 4 on automatics. Keep up the incredible work.

  • @denismzs
    @denismzs ปีที่แล้ว

    It has been a while. Welcome back !!!!

  • @citizaniac149
    @citizaniac149 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The master is back! 🙃

  • @amphibiousone7972
    @amphibiousone7972 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great content, I enjoy watching your disciplined repairs. 🫡

  • @awdturbopowah773
    @awdturbopowah773 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really happy to see a new video from you Mark! I am really curious what analyzer software you are using though. That interface is terrific for videos! Thanks as always for the terrific lesson sir 👍.

  • @mell3109
    @mell3109 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a cracking little movement, built to last.

  • @IMakeWatches
    @IMakeWatches ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! Great to see you Mark!

  • @Louen_Leoncoeur
    @Louen_Leoncoeur ปีที่แล้ว

    soooooo looooooong time not seeing your vidio sir... I'm glad to see it now... 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽

  • @TheOwlGuy777
    @TheOwlGuy777 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Friday just became fantastic!
    Your channel has always been a diamond in a sea of coal!

  • @JxH
    @JxH ปีที่แล้ว

    Viewed from Siquijor, as opposed to our usual Canada. Nice to see another video. We hope that you are doing well.

  • @TomTom-up1kz
    @TomTom-up1kz ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see you again and very good job 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @davidduszynski2972
    @davidduszynski2972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video. I would like to make one comment on the barrel arbor issue for other watch repair learners and thier troubleshooting skills. Keep in mind that while the watch is running the barrel arbor does not move. Consider the square atop the barrel arbor, it is attached to the ratchet wheel by means of a screw, its geometric shape forbids the movment of the barrel arbor apart from the rachet wheel. While the watch runs the Ratchet wheel is held in place by the click and is thus stationary. The barrel arbor sould have end shake as mentioned as it does turn while winding, Imporper endshake on the arbor will result in difficutly winding, increasing wear on the winidng mechanism. In this case I can only suspect the flex of the barrel bridge or mainplate acting on one of the pivots (increasing endshake or holding the wheels out of alignment) was the direct reason for the movements poor performance.

  • @frankowot4
    @frankowot4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and problem analysis Mark, thank you.

  • @endy_fx
    @endy_fx ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see you back again.

  • @camhyde9701
    @camhyde9701 ปีที่แล้ว

    The new time graph display is cool

  • @amandagelien9612
    @amandagelien9612 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job! Need to continue my watch channel course😀

  • @HeliBenj
    @HeliBenj ปีที่แล้ว

    An unusual fault, thanks for sharing, might come handy some day

  • @Trixtrem1974
    @Trixtrem1974 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks heaps for the trouble shooting explanation...love it

  • @Haforn-ng2vy
    @Haforn-ng2vy ปีที่แล้ว

    Simply Marvelous .... Thanks 😇

  • @sithyarael6807
    @sithyarael6807 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I will say that is a very big balance wheel on this watch compared to other watches of this era. From videos I have seen on doing these tear downs. My shaky hands are not enough to do it even under microscope. My guess is the dried oil/grease is what stopped this one just from the tear down. I stick to bigger parts like BCG's and that type of stuff where I can work with shaky hands.

  • @machielschouten8647
    @machielschouten8647 ปีที่แล้ว

    A big welcome back from a collega from the netherlands! 😀

  • @kiwicory100
    @kiwicory100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Relaxing to watch thanks

  • @donprez6187
    @donprez6187 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings from Southern California USA. Nice to see that you are publishing content again. You have one of the best watch channels in the mix. Got to tell you Mark, the accompanying music seemed to have a muted fidelity, almost like it was playing on a smart phone near the microphone. Was it?

  • @watchtock8818
    @watchtock8818 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome back. It's been too long between videos.

  • @VWatchie
    @VWatchie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm really curious to know how you adjusted the barrel arbor bearing using your jewelling tool. Did you simply push the bearing a bit a bit away from the arbor? And thanks for another excellent video. Your story-telling style is superior and it's so nice not having to listen to the constant chatter that so many other watch repair channels suffer from 👍

  • @followthetrawler
    @followthetrawler ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never heard of CYMA before, but what a pretty movement. Strange shock setting on the lower jewel.

  • @dodgydruid
    @dodgydruid ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I don't think it left the factory in that superb clean condition O.o Have to agree on the don't make 'em like they used to, my 1947 gold Avia is still the undisputed most accurate mechanical watch in my entire collection and I have some high end Seiko's that just don't come close to the perfect railway track timegrapher reading, 0.0 BE, very good amp and loses zero secs a day. My suspicion is it is a drawer watch, maybe the owner didn't like it or just wore it for best, once I cleaned it up it came out like it was brand new and underneath the years of tarnish on the gold appeared a hallmark :) I paid £4 off ebay for the gem, listing said it needed a new battery and was full o' water, two twirls on the crown and it sprang into life.

  • @fredperry523
    @fredperry523 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful !

  • @richardgrossman8843
    @richardgrossman8843 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a little advertisement for the watchfix class, I've made it and I'm now able to do the same job as you see in this video (may be with less dexterity).
    I highly recommend to all of the watchers and want to be an hobbyist watchmaker to take the course

  • @TheTarrMan
    @TheTarrMan ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks nice.

  • @jamessmith6402
    @jamessmith6402 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Mark lovely video👍

  • @JDRichard
    @JDRichard ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mark, what program are you using at the very beginning of this video to measure the amplitude. I think I have all other programs but not this one

  • @mans4104
    @mans4104 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Cyma watch it is so well engineered that the jewels cup shape is bigger than the axles wandering, so they go inside the jewel bearing 10:36 no matter what AKA more easily.

  • @omegadun66
    @omegadun66 ปีที่แล้ว

    A craftsman, you do know your trade

  • @sanjaysingh-cv5cz
    @sanjaysingh-cv5cz ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice 👍👍👍

  • @mariocinque8588
    @mariocinque8588 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work compliments.

  • @karma247ajm
    @karma247ajm ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see you back Mark 👍 Great job on a lovely watch. Unusual to see helical cut teeth on the winding pinion. Is this just a Cyma thing?

  • @AdelBelmahi
    @AdelBelmahi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where have you been man? I hope everything is ok 👌

    • @DutchClawz
      @DutchClawz ปีที่แล้ว

      Mans been stacking from the courses

  • @kinklesstetrode
    @kinklesstetrode ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou!

  • @jameswallace1546
    @jameswallace1546 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to see you back! are you using Mollykote on the keyless works and other high friction areas instead of 9501? I always go back-and-forth on this. lately I’ve been using 9504, I would love to get your opinion. Your early videos are a big part of what got me into watchmaking, so thank you.

  • @boydsargeant7496
    @boydsargeant7496 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and great watch! Nice to see a problem fixed! Where do you find nice vintage looking crowns from? I have a Cousins UK account, do you like their selection?

  • @2manysigns
    @2manysigns ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice.

  • @nukvar23
    @nukvar23 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cyma rules!

  • @oliverh4444
    @oliverh4444 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as ever! I have a very rare and expebsive 1940s Angelus chronograph that is in need of restoration. How would you feel about doing this and creating a video of the job?

  • @briangoldberg4439
    @briangoldberg4439 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a good looking watch. Not crazy about the band tbh. I think I nice leather band would look good with that one.

  • @_f355
    @_f355 ปีที่แล้ว

    what are you using for the timegrapher at 1:30? it looks very nice!

  • @srgnsw65
    @srgnsw65 ปีที่แล้ว

    Noting the amplitude increased to 216 (even 242 on the timegrapher), was that the result of adjusting the beat error?

  • @sarchlalaith8836
    @sarchlalaith8836 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Setting = jewel?

  • @butre.
    @butre. ปีที่แล้ว

    what timegrapher is that? it looks so much more legible than the typical weishi 1000

  • @Clancydaenlightened
    @Clancydaenlightened ปีที่แล้ว

    i think wristwatch revival won dat bet....😎

  • @tasagaste
    @tasagaste ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is this timegrapher a custom made or what? It's showing different (worse) readings than the Chinese one. Is it more accurate? You could make a video with this matter.

  • @robertmduckworth6566
    @robertmduckworth6566 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting shock springs. A matter of expense or simply a different idea from Cyma?

  • @kumbackquatsta
    @kumbackquatsta ปีที่แล้ว

    the chinese timegrapher was very soothing

  • @SolimBD
    @SolimBD ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does not come regular video?

  • @Fischi4711
    @Fischi4711 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always wonder how these kind of faults happen. The bearing did not move by itself, does it?

  • @shobud7561
    @shobud7561 ปีที่แล้ว

    What did you do to correct the problem ? I know you said you addressed it, but what did you do ?

    • @bikeman123
      @bikeman123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You didn't watch the video

  • @wpherigo1
    @wpherigo1 ปีที่แล้ว

    No idea how you do this!

  • @Mr_Busted
    @Mr_Busted ปีที่แล้ว

    Basically you disassembled the watch then cleaned and assembled again.

    • @bikeman123
      @bikeman123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's what a service is. What did you expect?