Crazy Retro 70s Jump Hour Watch Restoration - Sicura
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- Here we have a rare old Sicura Jump Hour watch from the early 70s. Can I restore this watch and get it working again? Watch to find out!
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When cleaning battery terminals use dilute white vinegar on leakage from alkaline batteries (then neutralize with baking soda solution) and a baking soda solution on lead acid battery leakage. unless you neutralize the residue it will continue to corrode. Pencil eraser will usually clean the contacts. The black oxidation on the copper wires in copper sulphate.
I didn’t want to use any liquid as it might have wiped off the blue paint like the alcohol did.
Well worth all the agro just to see the light. BRILLIANT!
Great to see your out & About ,take it Steady
I was expecting a really weak glow from the watch, but WOW it lights up like Blackpool pleasure beach! I could sense the frustration when you were pinging away at the spring and was saying come at it from the other side...then ping! 5h1t happens dude, I fumbled holding a movement and it flipped out of my hand, I managed to catch it before it hit the floor but the fine seconds hand had bent into a near perfect spiral as it span out my hand, I then spent 2 hours straightening it with 2 sets of plastic tweezers with flat faces. Love the collection.😁
I was amazed, firstly that is worked and then how bright it was. Now another keeper. I saw one on eBay for £350!! But I think that one will be there forever and a day!
Dropping and breaking things is part of the hobby although I like to think I am now experienced enough not to break shock springs like that!
Your glee when turning on the light was excellent! It's really the little things that can bring great joy :)
This is an absolutely gorgeous and cool watch great job fixing it
Thank you! That's a lot of fun.
Today I bought this watch but the brand was Sutton. It's an exact copy. Luckily not only does the watch run, there is no corrosion on the battery terminal! Woohoo! Thanks to your video, I learned so much about this watch. I had no idea about the light. It's very very cool! This is the second watch I own that has a light. I also have a Seiko quartz from the 70s with light. They are both cool watches.
Love jump hour watches.
One day I'll get around to fixing my one.
I only managed to fix my recently. Had it since March.
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Oh, mine's been in need of attention for a tad longer 😊
I got it in June 2019 for a competition on a watch site. Cheap watch restoration.
It missed the deadline as I needed a part which was only available in Italy and took a while.
Still would like to get it running as it's a like new Hudson Dynamic.
Hey Mike great Job. Crazy Watch😆
Another great video, i agree with Sportclay1 for the use of white vinegar for the battery acid, then IPA
Mike, I enjoy watching you tackle watch movements outside of your comfort zone. One Tenor Dorly jumping hour in my small collection. As stated above, they’re so creative and cool. Thanks for sharing, Mike!
Your welcome. Thanks for tuning in
Well worth the work! I’d wear that every day! 👏🏻👏🏻
It's great to see the failures in addition to the successes ;) its a realistic cross section of the hobby
Thanks. I was and still am annoyed I broke that spring!
Hi. I have a reccomendation for removing items that are glued together. It's a technique that I,ve used to disassemble plastic model kits and it works really well. Immerse the part in warm soapy water water. Place it into a plastic bag and then put it into your freezer. Remove the next day. As the water freezes it expands and seperates the parts. ps I really enjoy your videos. Col.
Great to have you back!
Thanks, Mike! Love your videos...
Glad you like them, thanks
I really like your videos.
Especially since you also show when something doesn't go as planned.
Happens :)
Glad you like them!
Необычные, интересные часы!
Great video 👍. I had a Jump hour when I was a kid, loved it.
Nice one Mike, happens to have exactly the same somewhere...
I just love your videos, because they are full of passion and perseverance. To bring this "Mickey Mouse" watch back to life is a feat on itself. Just stop apologizing all the way as you are doing a great job and come across as a very nice guy.
Thank you. I apologise in videos sometimes just because nothing is planned to scripted so I am talking as I am working. I can think I’m either going on a bit or that time is passing.
Your not the first to say it and now on some of the more difficult builds I am trying to voice over where necessary so I can think about what I need to say
im happy you are get back and i am in joy to see you repairing watch 🙂😊😉
Thanks
That is a cool watch...
There's a Sorna version of this up on ebay. I had a surprise find from my Indian chap, a quite old Orient split day-date, very very pleased and to make amends for my last Orient not working he's chucked in a Seiko 6319 railway time square in black rather than me waiting six months there and back so I got that Orient surplus if you fancied a go :) It did surprise me it broke as unusually for an Indian it looks pristine inside, abs spotless with all the rhodium plating unblemished.
that's pretty cool !!!!!!!!
Buck Rogers's watch!! Directly from the 25th century.
Another suggestion from the world of model building. Use a glass fibre pen for cleaning off corosion around the battery contacts. It's very effective and you can work in hard to reach areas. Just be careful because you will get glass filaments stuck into your finger tips. This hurts. Col.
I cheered with you when the light worked! What a great watch and a worthy addition to your collection. Good job!
Thanks pal
White vinegar safely dissolves battery corrosion on electronics. It is as easy as dabbing with a Q-tip soaked with white vinegar and wiping as corrosion is dissolved.
Thanks I will have to try it on the remaining parts
Nice, My favorite Jump Hour Watch is a Hoga Directime or also sometimes branded a lip .
Yes that’s in my pile at the end of the video ( if you made it that long) my wife bought me the LIP for my 50th a few weeks ago. Stunning watch
@@MyRetroWatches Ah I see that now, Cheers.
Brilliant vid mate 👍
I've always wondered about these jump hour watches ....and now I know ..
I really hoped the light would work ...very cool
very interesting
Another Sicura watch that I absolutely love.
Have several jump-hour watches and his would trump the lot.
Bought my first Sicura (a Memostar) on the back of Nekkid Watchmaker's refurb. Got it from a guy in Liverpool, fully refurbished. Keeps excellent time, put a nice tan leather rally strap on it.
That light is boss.
I also have the memostar Joe has. The memostar was made for the AA here in the UK (Automobile Assosiation) which is a breakdown cover service. Why they were selling watches I dont know unless it was a carrot dangler gift for new premium package members. I have some photos of the AA paperwork for one, might even be on my website where I show my collection.
@@MyRetroWatches Just spotted a defunct Instalight on eBay, seller has offered it to me for £64. Deliberating it and will need your video here to sort it out I reckon.
Well, I bought it and it's in really good condition, bar the battery covers are missing. Internally in better state than yours was, but I still took the housing out and sanded them springs a bit (some corrosion on one) and then tentatively gave it some IPA cleaning on the electrical parts. Bit of Poly watch and some Autosol on the crystal and case. Put some batteries in and bridged the circuit with my tweezers....and the bulb works!! Loved the look of the Milanese mesh so have ordered one. I'm over the moon. What a bonkers watch.
Seems to be keeping time so far, but will get it serviced (beyond my skill)
The battery covers are 12mm and I reckon I can find something to go in the holes from somewhere.
@@MyRetroWatches Hi Michael Is there any way I can contact you for a small spot of advice about the Instalite?
Wow Mike what a collection you have. They are very fascinating watches. That light is bonkers. Certainly a style of watch for certain occasions or mood.
I’d wear it for the next Star Trek movie!
I has a really good result on battery oxide with WD 40 put it on wait a few minits and it comes of easy and it dont harm anything.
Hi how are things?
A piece of advice: to dissolve the sulfation of the batteries, it is best to use cotton swabs dipped in a carbonated drink such as a tonic. It dissolves it without attacking the surfaces. It is applied and rubbed gently and then dries, and it is perfect.
Things are good. thanks for asking
Awesome video mike!!!! Well done and I’d wear that watch a lot. Thank you for posting.
Great choice for the bracelet!
Thanks for watching! Its a very unusual one hence why its now in my collection.
Hi, and thanks for this video.
I‘ve collected some of these jump hours as well, and there are some special items, you should be very careful with:
For instance jump hour watches with Otero 796 movement (f.i. Pallas or Stowa) may never be turned anti-clockwise because the spring which moves the jumping hour disc breaks very easily if you do so.
Furthermore be very careful with all Förster Fb 221 - 225 (the last watch you showed us in the vid with date-disc may have such a movement, there even exists a Fb movement with day and date disc), as the friction of the minute wheel is achieved by a special coating on it, and if you clean it in an ultrasonic or Elma cleaning machine, you will have nearly no chance, to see the minute disc moving again, although the movement itself works. There is simply no more friction left.
Stay healthy my friend !
Thanks for this information. I have a LIP and that seems like its the same turn anticlockwise and the spring is loading in a bad way.
@@MyRetroWatches But your Saytoku has no Fb movement, as I thought at first glance.
I have an „Anker“ watch with Fb 225 movement. The thing is, that this one is, as far as I know the only „digital“ jump hour disc watch with day AND date, in so far very interesting.
Really enjoyed this one, as you know I’m a bit of a jump hour fan boy😂
I have the same illness. Something about those bonkers designs
Uber cool one!
Absolutely fabulous watch, great job with what you faced in restoring it. keep on the mend and stay safe buddy
The watch makers of the 60s & 70s had no fear when it came to case design. the generic watch of today is pretty mundane. Great video. hope your health is improving. 👍
Yes 70s was a time for anything goes!
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Welcome bro 👋🏽
How much is this watch?
the only watch youtuber that brings value content regularly - keep it up & congrats Mike
Wow high accolades! Thank you.
@@MyRetroWatches thanks to you - most of the other guys are just spammers pushing microbrands and chinese watches
@@educarmar well I have reviewed lots of Chinese watches …. Most are actually pretty decent. Vintage is where my heart lies though.
I highly recommend the TH-camr "Wristwatch Revival" if you want more of this style of work. He's what got me into these kinds of vids. Both MRW and WWR are brilliant creators!
I’d wear that!
Just wanted to get one from eBay for adequate price, but now I’m loosing hope since all clip watchers will start to hunt those instalights. Good video, pal!
They have always been pricy these models.
super video
My understanding is that the 17 jewel limit is imposed by import duties in some markets.
So, if you have a pin pallet movement that works well enough - as this one does - you can spend those two extra jewels on additional pivots.
First, this watch is very interesting, I really liked its different design. Secondly, this song, Maple Leaf Rag, is beautiful. I've never heard this song before, and I've never heard about Scott Joplin. Thanks for sharing some good content and good music. I like to share a Brazilian musician who composed songs in these lines. Search for Tico Tico no Fubá by Zequinha de Abreu. It's an amazing song.
I will look it up. Scott Joplin was from a very long time ago but made some great music. As a black man in a white mans world (back then) I don’t think he really got the recognition he deserved.
HI! wath a coincidence, I have One, but don't fuction, I need do the same work tath you did. Great watch. Congratulations. Be carefull. Regards since Mexico City,
Mike, great vid. I'm into vintage computers, and we tend to treat battery damage with a little bit of white vinegar (as the battery damage is alkaline) followed by Iso Propyl Alcohol.
I Luke. I did think of rust or silver dip but I worried for colour run off that dial. Alcohol normally works for me but on a circuit . I dunk it in a jar full of ipa and in the ultrasonic at 40 degrees for 30 mins. Usually cleans it all off.
@@MyRetroWatches with the white vinegar it fizzes off the gunk!!
@@MrLukealbanese ooh I like the sound of that. Need to find a bad digital now to try it on
@@MyRetroWatches go gently, obvs!!
That's one weird clock face :)
:) Time for a cuppa, I'll visit the rest later :)
Is this your 3rd visit!
I was wondering how the movement was electric, but it appears that the batteries are purely for the light.
It’s definitely worth cleaning all that corrosion from the old batteries. The coils are black because it’s likely the corrosion tarnished and ruined the nickel plating.
What a fascinating movement.
Thanks for the advise. I thought even before taking it out the case that it could only be a light circuit as 17 jewels on the dial gives the movement away. For its day I guess it was space age hence the futuristic looks. Like it or love it at one time this was fashion! has a place forevermore in my collection because of it. Thanks for watching.
@@MyRetroWatches having only ever seen these styles on your channel, I’m intrigued by them. Thanks for sharing them and especially your collection of them.
Groovy baby:)
Another great video Mike, excellent mate, i'm happy you are ok, light circuits after a leek not easy, wold like to have a look inside a jump hour, but i really would like a micro rotor they look amazing lad, cu next time Mike. D🇬🇧
Chinese now making a nice micro rotor so one day I might have one to take a closer look. I love my jumps totally bonkers watches and some are actually quite high end like my LIP one I got for my birthday.
I'm just beginnng to view the video, so more later, but that watch should have been worn by Victor Bergman, Science Advisor (Barry Morse) in Space: 1999. It's out there! And when you magnified the gunk in the battery wells, I guess it was also "in there" ! Lol. Watching till the end now....
Great restoration of a fascinating watch 👍, Isn't it strange that someone would leave the batteries in when they are so easily removed?
I find people leave batteries in all the time.
Great video. But my OCD is bugged on the manufacturing mishap, the 3 circular cuts above the upper glass, the one on the far right is slightly lower by a millimeter then the far left circle. Not your fault. Just the design.
Vinegar is a rather strong, acid pH 2-3. If you use vinegar to remove alcaline salts residu, you have to neutralize the vinegar with baking soda, since the vinegar will also attack copper tracings.
Thanks for this advice.
Good one Mike, difficult to really sort it when you can’t take the hour and minute discs off
I probably could remove as they went on but i felt with all the work on the light if i knackered up the movement anymore it would be all in vain especially when I had to part with £50 for this watch.
As the leaking 'goo' from a battery is alkaline, the way to get rid of it is to use an acid, such as vinegar, to neutralize it.
Shame I missed you at the fair, next time!
I was there from 9.20ish until gone 1pm mainly talking as I only found this watch 5 minutes before leaving. Not much on offer this time I thought but for me it’s all about the meet up with the lads from the group. You should join us for breakfast
@@MyRetroWatches Definitely! I grabbed a couple of decent automatics, sent you some dial pics ;)
i loved the piano music wanted to hear more apart from that the watches look fantastic what do you feel about the the drum watch i've been wearing one for the past 3 years changed the battery's once watching the numbers turn is still fun it's a skmei drum watch not expensive at all but i like it
Piano is Maple Leaf Rag from Scott Joplin a very old tune. My sister used to play it on the piano when we were kids. Its been stuck in my head since then!
I had to Google the drum watch yeah its definitely interesting and for that 10/10
@@MyRetroWatches they are great watches not expensive just a slight sound when the drum turns doesn't bother me half the time you dont even hear it.
Would a dremmel and some slightly abrasive attachments not help you ?
Wow that SAYTOKO looks like it's just come off of a old Star Trek set, actually quite a few do. Is that because you like the style, or just how they came? They're all awesome by the way!
All jump hours can be a bit whacky but some more than others and those are the models I occasionally look for. The Saytoko took 4 years to find. I missed out on one and then set saved searches on eBay thinking another would be along within weeks….
Was that jewel catch that broke , not already open when you were prizing it , but trapping it with the peg wood that made it break ?
There is a potentially unique perspective on a "pin pallet" fork... Theoretically, there will be less contact area between the escape and pallets... but only if the pins are perfectly perpendicular to the escape wheel faces.
Yeah, those readings are great for something like that.
Thank you. I’m surprised by how accurate it’s been 4 days on now and I wind it every day . Seems about 30 seconds a day so pretty good considering it’s also missing half a spring!
Could you use a glas fibre brush on the battery ports?
I did. Look at some of the microscope shots and you will see all the left over bristles. It didn’t really do much as I was trying to be careful of those springs.
i did manage to get a new crystal one of these Sicuras, like the one you showed,
do you want me to dig out the source?
Danish-blue batteries, yummy...
Just picked up another Soviet Sekonda lol Seller dropped price down to £12 and I had to have it as its an unusual date only Slava 2428 manual wind twin mainspring... so much for cutting back on vintage stuff lololol
Not sure if this works for watches but some distilled water and baking soda will neutralize the battery acid while also cleaning the surface lightly.
Yes it will however I could not risk submerging this as the contacts were on the dial and I think it would have washed off the blue ink from the dial. Had that happened the watch would be ruined.
Tip for u an am sure that u know it 😊
Hot water is great for cleaning the battery dapry
heftig geiles Teil
Apparently Sicura bought out Breitling back in the day. So maybe it is more valuable than you thought.
They did buy Breitling when the company went under but then ditched Sicura as a brand. The connection is weak really. Many ebay listings highlight this as a selling point but these were before Breitling and when they have pin pallet movements its not exactly high end stuff. This one as a Jump hour watch seems to command £200 which I do find hard to believe but I guess its rarer and collectible for the light.
@@MyRetroWatches Agree 100% looking at the current prices of Jump Hour watches on eBay, it does look as if the sellers have lost touch with reality. Single jewel swiss with a broken balance wheel pivot equates to JUNK, and yet someone somewhere has the illusion of pricelessness.
You have to laugh and look elsewhere.
The band was a good choice.
Thanks
Whenever I lose an item it always ends up in the last place I look! Lol
Astonishing how the jewel wound up in the rodico and you had to make "rodico pizza" to find it...and it's ALWAYS the last place you look! Is the Universe against us? Lol. I really enjoy that you always show the difficulties.
I wonder if the Buler watches are more popular than perhaps they should be due to the homophone with "Bueller" - as in "Ferris Bueller's Day Off", the iconic "High School Senioritis Delinquent" film of the 80s, filmed in Chicagoland, USA? Have you ever seen it? Sir Paul McCartney has reportedly said that he disliked the inclusion of "Twist and Shout" in the film because of the use of brass instruments, at least according to Wikipedia. Most of that film's > $70 million gross take was in the US and Canada, but in a way, at least one of those watches would have looked good on maybe Cameron's wrist....he falls in the pool...fakes death...but his watch keeps going...."Ferris, You're my Hero...." Lol.
Whatever the reason, I lived in Chicagoland at one time in my life, and having a Buler jump hour wristwatch would have been very cool indeed.
"What kind of watch is that?"
"Buler....Buler....Anyone....Anyone?"
Cheers Mike and stay strong. You've got a wonderful collection there.
Loved Ferris Buller day off! One of my great films from being young. I am massive into Ferrari so watching it just for the GT California! Sticking it in reverse on jacks. Quality!
Then he kicks on it and .... out the back window! It's amazing because the house that scene was filmed in actually exists and there was a controversy about it being preserved as an Historic Landmark several years ago. I didn't keep track to find out the result, but that house and garage were real when it was filmed. The Ferrari that went out the window the wrong way was not. It is also obvious during the Lake Shore Drive shots in Chicago that the car was being towed. :) But when you were a teenager watching the movie, suspension of disbelief was easy. :)
@@Alex-px2mb interesting facts. I knew most of the shots would not be a real California they were just as valuable back then too.
That is the worst battery leaking damage I have ever seen.
Hi Mike I'm a long time subscriber I just thought I'd let you know that a very reputable Ebay seller in Australlia hnco (29016)currently has a similar Sicura for sale in case you need to source parts
i have it
I absolutely hate pin pallet movements with a burning passion
I’d wear it 😂
Hi Mike great video Good to see you back in the swing on an unrelated note I was wondering on your thoughts on watch cleaning fluids I have been lucky to purchase a vintage benray fully working and not sure if I should use l & r fluids or Elma that you dilute with water what are your thoughts best wishes David.
I use L&R I can’t speak of the other stuff as this is all I have used. I do use the ammoniated version as I am in the garage but it only smells at first. Does a good job of brightening brass coloured wheels.
Waterless is the way to go 100% the L&R is expensive but mine has lasted a few years and I still have one more clean change to do.
With the rinse as I have two stage I only change the first rinse for new and then that becomes the last stage as it’s the cleanest. So I am swapping them around if that makes sense.
Just makes it go a bit longer.
@@MyRetroWatches Thanks Mike.
That's one wacky special piece. Does George Jetson know you have stolen his watch collection? 🙂
Haha, I also have Buck Rogers LeD watch in my collection too!
How much is it?
its not for sale......
No i mean .l want to know how much it is ? Because i have one like that watch
@@MyRetroWatches .
@@capital967Aden I have no idea. It’s only worth what someone is willing to pay.
I wish I could remember what video I saw...there was a company that was unable legally because of some law that had been passed, to go to a jeweled escapement! ...oh, it was Chronoglide I think! Anyway, it sounded like this watchmaker was stuck with pins until a late date. Maybe someone can elucidate more?
I will have to find that video. BFG were a big manufacturer of pin pallet and one I see all the time, my other Sicura has one but also 17 jewels but twice the size of this movement. A quirky watch but I love it for that.
@@MyRetroWatches I went looking for the silly thing and couldn't find it...if I do, I will link to you. Anyway, good job, and hope you are healthy.
Too bad they don't make so many jumphour watches nowadays. There are some ones that look like a jumphour. Except that the hour doesn't actually jump.
Redroosteruk on EBAY for the spring got some the other day
I will take a look. I have a selection of assorted springs like this but all for bigger watches. This shock jewel is one of the smallest I’ve handled hence thinking I will only find one from a donor.
Try using carbonate water it breaks alkaline up next time without damage to paint .
Thank you
@@MyRetroWatches i use it to clean battery cables for old trucks and cars. Even alka-seltzer works great. White vinegar even gets light rust off .
You act like you never cleaned battery corrosion/acid before. Just use alcohol and vinger and qtips already and rub it. Why are you acting afraid of it and picking at it with metal things like it will do something if you are not careful? This is simple stuff to do and take a few min to clean ip really.
Well you missed the part where I used alcohol on the front part and it wiped off the blue paint on the dial .
As the contact could go through the dial I did not want to risk any liquid going through and then ruining the dial .