I worked 5 consecutive summers in Dahab’s blue hole as a divemaster, so I might be able to answer your interrogations. Those bodies you see in the video are well known, and they are there for a reason: the first two wedged in between the rocks are at a depth of approximately 60-70meters according to my memories, while the third one with the yellow tank floating is at a depth of between 100-130 meters. Those 3 divers all died in the 1990s and none of those 3 bodies were found until the beginning of the 2000s when trimix became more popular and available in the, at the time known as, “hardcore teckies” circle of divers. Even though there were divers able to dive on trimix at those depths, the bodies were already in such a state of decomposition that if anyone would have recovered them, they’d have recover nothing but a suit, a bcd and a skull as the bones dislocates and fall during the ascent. It has been decided by the families to let them down there, in the environment they liked and as complete as possible. Since the 2000s and the advances in diving equipment, mostly every single diver who died in the blue hole had his body recovered, which is why you don’t find more bodies underwater.
Bruno L-P_G Good to hear, I can and do understand. I really do understand the family's wishes. I think as a diver it would be as good for a grave as anyplace. It's not like a 20-25 meter deep or less location that beginning divers are at.
I was a sport diver for 22 years, had three really close calls, about two years after the third one I sold everything, my boat, tanks, dry-suits, the lot, just thought I might not be as lucky if there's a fourth. You have to know when to quit.
@@Access.Denied Yep, I now go wild camping/hiking. I find lakes and tarns and fish them, make a fire and cook what I catch, although I don't catch a lot 👍
Dad never said why but after diving for several years he came home from a dive and said it was the last one. He must have had a scary experience that day but never said what.
@@JesusGodHolySpirit3 diving isn’t dangerous, these are people going to crazy places, know what your saying 💀 My thoughts 2 years later I made this comment as a “joke” sorta, it started out serious but I knew what I said was ignorant 😂, I’ve never dove with actual diving gear (air tanks ect.) i do however free-dive and spearfish pretty well and often. All my replies were to just piss off as many people as I could lol. I do still stand by the thought that free diving isn’t dangerous FOR ME. I’ve been swimming for 20 years and only once in a boat inlet had small struggle. That being said, in general, yea, any kind of swimming can be dangerous.
@@tieronehush Why are you assuming that his/her dad didn't like the thrill of diving in dangerous and difficulty places? And the reply does not take this possibility out of consideration, either. Edit: And yes, cave diving IS dangerous, even if you take the necessary precautions and never go to hazardous areas. Human bodies use A LOT of oxygen and once you get lost down there, it's easy to run out of air before finding the way out.
My dad was a master diver and former navy seal and he used a rebreather a lot, well march 15 2008 he took a class down to dive in Deerfield Beach florida to teach them with the rebreather and his apparatus malfunctioned and he passed away 100 feet deep... they tried to save my dad but he was gone... 😢I miss my dad everyday but I have so much respect for scuba divers!
Understandable, and sorry for your loss. He was doing what he enjoyed doing at least. Much respect for the SEALs, even though I'll give the Navy shit (and the AF too) lol
@@skurinski early morning dive. best friends one was an instructor the other on the same DM course as I. both of em were funny kind Irish lads and best friends. who knows what happened but I doubt one would leave the other down there if something went wrong. Who knows but they were down beyond a safe depth and nitrox team had to go get them. It wasn’t that alone that made me stop. i also got really sick and had to come back to the US. Also the first dive I did after they passed I ended up with a wicked nose bleed and my mask was suddenly full of blood. i was just freaked out sad sick mess so I came home
Aw man, I'm so sorry. The fact that you lost two friends and suffered health problems while having to make such a difficult and drastic decision surely couldn't have been easy. I hope you didn't have to make your decision alone and that you had a supportive community around you. I also hope that you're doing better healthwise now and have found a new career pathway that is fulfilling for you. If you're not at that place yet, well, I suppose that I'll hope you get there sooner rather than later. 💔❤️🩹💖💙💜
I believe that leaving the body there, if the family approves it, would be the best warning for people to learn this is not a game, and it's one of the most dangerous things you can do. Never overstimate your abilities when diving.
Families could of told them to leave the bodies there, and at the same time those bodies act as a warning to other divers- showing them what they are getting themselves into. The Ocean has taken their lives, might as well let it have their bodies.
I'm no expert, but from other stories I've heard, that is usually why the bodies are left. Sometimes, the decision has been made to leave the body after one of the recovery team leaves theirs as well. It blows my mind that people do this for fun. I can see why as far as the exploration and the surreal sights, but wow I would never consider putting on scuba gear.
Divers who rescue others get little recognition in UK, whether civilian or public worker. They found my brother in a lake in 88 at a barracks and i have never been able to find their names to thank them. So thank you to all divers n rescuers. You give us closure and you treat our loved ones with so much respect during retrievals 👏🏼🇬🇧🙏🏻
As a climber,I'd like to add that mountain rescue services suffer much the same ignominy.Also we naturally assume that because someone is there and maybe even have all the right gear, that they know what they are doing. The amount of idiots I've encountered,told to descend, led,dragged,guided or carried down mountains over the years is staggering,idiots in sports gear and trainers,drunks,people in sandals and shorts etc.other climbers biting off more than they can chew, four soaked teenagers who walked into a dark mining shaft entrance to avoid the rain and fell into a hole full of water,a young family with a toddler and baby( I'm not joking)the list goes on,even at a relatively low altitudes the dangers are there. There are plenty of people taking part in activities that they have absolutely no right to,by virtue of ignorance. That ignorance imperils the life of every person involved in the rescue It's high time that those rescued who are found to be in such a position faced some sort of punitive measures for unneedignly putting the lives of others at risk.
@@notpoliticallycorrect1303 though keep in mind that if you punish them, you then inevitably create situations where people hide from/resist the people trying to rescue/help them so that they don't get in trouble. something to think about 🤷♂️
@@notpoliticallycorrect1303 If noone pushed their limits your knowledge on the matter wouldn't exist. To call them idiots is weird. Reckless sure but they are no more an idiot than the people that had to risk it and die so you can regurgitate knowledge you were taught because of their fortitude or ig idiocy in your world. Safety itself wouldn't be a thing had people not been willing to limit test first. Something to ponder the next time you judge the people you rescue for daring to do...
My best friend Herbie lost his life in Australia while abalone diving. We did not want anyone else risking their life retrieving his body. So we left him in the place we knew he loved. 🇦🇺🌊
This is one of the reasons why I like this channel so much, even tho I'm not interested in dive and probably never gonna dive myself. The visions and respect you guys have for the ocean and for the sport as a whole is amazing. Also since I'm very much interested in climbing and hiking, the comparation with leaving bodies in Everest and all is a very good perspective too.
Same I'm 48 never dived never will, I've watched this channel from the start cos I'm fascination by cave diving. Done caving a Few' times but to cave dive wow, also think humans are tragedy watchers tragedy has highest using figures.
Many times divers who go to retrieve a dead body have died in the process. The man who wrote the book on cave diving died in a cave trying to recover a body. It’s very dangerous.
That's bad and horrible. It's like a recursive death. First death necessitates second risk which leads to another death. That death requires another risk for bodily removal process. It becomes a 100 car body pile up accident, only underwater. Maybe the Russians have it halfway right after all. Generally, no bodily recovery for dead soldiers. They rot where they fall. But that means they don't value the living either. What a sorry state of affairs.
As an Egyptian, i can confirm that the beauty of the blue hole is something to be very careful with as it seems very inviting at first from shallow waters. Ive been there several times and its always a sight to see those stones with the names of those who lost their lives to this place.
@@HoneyPie1978 Yes the surface is fine. Its the deep diving that’s dangerous. Other than that, the surface is great and you’ll see a lot of sea creature and beauty.
Folks, I’ve been diving Dahab for 23 years now. and know a little bit about what goes on at and around the Blue Hole. Allow me to explain a bit. First consider it’s a super popular dive site, with some of the most fantastic wall dives in the world - the outer wall of the Blue Hole goes down vertically to 1,270m - notwithstanding the Blue Hole itself. The area is super deep, and you dive from the shore, and the deepest part is right next to the shore, where the Great African Rift passes right next to the Sinai. There are other sites next to the Hole, like The Bells, a vertical crack in the coral platter that goes down vertically to 1,300m, and you jump in it from the shore… This dive is a deep wall dive, going down the crack, exiting below 35m and drifting along the wall to resurface in the blue hole not through the Arch, but through a saddle that connects the Blue Hole to the open sea. The reason those bodies are not recovered is simple: they died long time ago, when tech diving was the apanage of very very few people, and the bodies are very deep. The first two bodies you see in the video are at 92m according to my computer, while Barbara Dillinger, whose yellow tank is floating, is at 112m. Because the state the bodies are in, families have decided to leave them there. There are at least 4 more bodies in there that I know of, at about 120m. People continue to die at the hole, but in recent years tech diving and rebreathers have become much more common, and diving to 120m, while challenging is no longer the feat a just a few, and the bodies are recovered. Even Yuri Lipski’s body was recovered from 120m many years ago. To give you an idea, most bodies, including Yuri’s, have been recovered by Tareq Omar, the first tech diver in Dahab and owner of Club Red Dive center. Three categories of people die at the hole: daytime adventurers who think they are hip and try to do the Arch on single tanks, techies who venture beyond their limits, get narked and go for the bottom and freedivers who want to do the Arch without having the required level.
"freedivers who want to do the Arch without having the required level" Is it even possible to freedive the arch? I know next to nothing about freediving, but it seems crazy that someone could freedive the arch while others die trying to do it with a single air tank.
@@3xceIIent has been done many times, successfully, that I know of - by William Trubridge, Thibault Guignes, Natalia Molchanova, Alexey Molchanov, Alexander Bubenchikov. But if you know about freediving, you'd recognise these names - world champions and world record holders. The very best of the best.
Are you sure that's Barbara Dillinger? I have seen conflicting accounts on whether she had surfaced in a panic attack and died in an ambulance from surfacing too quickly.
As a former firefighter/EMT as well as recreational diver with 24 years of experience, the one thing I always remember before each dive is to leave the arrogance on the surface. The day you say you have learned it all is the day that will ultimately show you that you haven't learned crap. For me personally, diving has not only been a sport that opened up another world to me, but a lesson in humility. Watching a video like this is a good eye opener and a reminder that we are fragile creatures.
As a former cats mother's neighbours cousins uncles grandads right knee cap.... bla bla you're hella annoying dude. LET ME JUST BIG MYSELF UP FOR A BIT OF BEG ON TOAST SO EVERYONE COMMENTS WOW WHAT AN AMAZING HUMAN YOU ARE LMAO own trumpet blown much too much. Tosser 👊🏻
I agree. Also a former EMT/FF, this profession that we chose has its own danger factor. For some, that’s why we do it and also to serve our community. But the reality of this, a great deal of hobbies and or careers have a danger factor. For some, that’s why we do it, the adrenaline rush, the feeling of being alive. But the fact is, the moment that you think your invisible is the moment you will cease to exist yourself.
I feel like inexperienced divers have accidents for obvious reasons then you have the divers in the middle who tend to be ok. It’s the divers with 1000s of dives who start getting complacent or push things too far that often have fatal accidents. You can never be too careful.
Getting trapped in an underwater cave and drowning mixes my fear of deep water with my claustrophobia...so to me this would be the scariest way to go...then seeing the bodies of other divers just makes it that much scarier, and very very sad. May those brave souls rest in peace.
Souls resting in peace is a overused fallacy. Does everyone automatically go to heaven because they die? Is every single person a born again Christian? Sadly not. Not even people in the churches will be in heaven. Of course some will, but believing in Jesus doesn't mean you go to heaven. The devil believes in Jesus. You must be born again in the spirit. We know that most of humanity will be in hell because Jesus said, broad is the way to destruction, narrow is the path to eternal life and FEW will find it.
I dove that site a few years ago, on air. We entered through Bells and ended up in the Blue Hole. I was down around 35m and I could see the arch. I can understand the temptation to want to swim through it; it looks close, not toooo deep (when it actually is, if you're diving air) and like you could do it quickly. Obviously, having researched the site ahead of time, I wasn't even tempted to try.
@@LG-Musique Narrow shore entry, through a tunnel carved in the coral? That's Bells. I believe there's another entry over the top, though. We'd have to ask one of these folks who has DM'd out there. I only did the one dive at that location.
@@JoeSaintSeven yeah that was it. It was about ten years ago now. I’d already heard stories about people running out of air etc so I pre-ordered a 15L tank for the dive and turns out I had plenty of air, but others in the group had come out low on gas. I think the biggest problem was lots of people aren’t great with maintaining neutral buoyancy above a big drop and that uses up gas more quickly that a normal 30m dive
just to clarify: the Bells to the Blue Hole is NOT the same dive as the descent down the Blue Hole and out the Tunnel to the Red Sea. i have done the former several times, most recently 2 years ago. the latter is a challenging tech dive and has taken the lives of numerous divers, many of whom (mostly for Eastern Europeans) have have had plaques and memorials mounted on the rocky wall adjacent to the dive site. i was once approached by a foolish and very cocky individual who wanted to borrow my PADI Advanced Open Water dive card in order to rent equipment and do the Blue Hole. needless to say, i told him what he could go do to himself!
My dad was a diver for nearly 30yrs. He was search and rescue. He dove ships in the great lakes. And one trip to a Caribbean ship wreck he came home and hung up his flippers. Never was a topic he would discuss. Whatever happened. It had to terrify him.
My friends boyfriend died this way. He was diving off the navasink in NJ to retrieve a piece of machinery that fell off a bridge. He got caught and drowned. So devastating
I just heard of a friend who knew someone who was kayaking in a bay and flipped. He was a navy seal but the water was too cold. He hung in there for a while but eventually died. Sad for himself as that is a painful way I have heard, and his family.
Had a very close call diving in Mallorca 20 years ago. At that time was a 2star certified diver but had only +-35 dives when i went diving on vacation at a local diving center. The dive instructor told me we also would be diving in an open rock formation in a canyon. Because i use more oxygen then the average diver i dived with a bigger (wider) tank. Everything went well until the instructor made the decision to dive into a tunnel that was also in the canyon and the opening was very small. The instructor went first and i would follow but because the tunnel was so small he couldn't see me. When i was just about 10 meters into the tunnel i got stuck with my tank because it was to wide. I could not go forward or backward at that moment. The instructor was not aware of the situation and went further..If i panicked at that moment it was game over and it would cost me my life. Luckely i could stay calm and by wonder i managed to get out of my jacket and i could go further without the jacket on my body dragging it together with the tank behind me. I got out of the tunnel but it was close. That's the problem on vacation, you never know how skilled the instructors are at these local dive centers or how many risks they are preparded to take with vacation divers they don't know.
Oh my gosh!!! How terrifying! Good for you for staying calm and thinking quickly to get yourself out of that situation! I'm glad that you made it out okay!!
I can relate to you my friend. I too went straight down into an opening of a material service barge with my new dive buddy in front of me and before I knew it my mask was pulled off by metal wreckage I was entangled in and my regulator ripped out of my mouth, wedged upside down. Fortunately I had the prior experience of a training mishap which had taught me the importance of staying calm and thinking things through. I reached around behind my head to locate the regulator at the top of my tank and traced it around to my right and untangled it and from there after once getting air again managed to get some of the metal debris out from around me and was able to move farther down into the opening and luckily saw daylight through another opening. If not for the early training mishap where I had panic and had an instructor teach me the importance of staying calm I am sure I would have other wised panicked and drowned. Lesson learned and that was about 40 years ago.
@Chris Hughes This is a certification system of the Dutch speaking part of Belgium that is used by all the official diving clubs from Flanders (Dutch speaking part of Belgium) . It starts from 1 to 4 stars.
I did my Padi in Majorca and one of the young kids that was on the course got a couple of nose bleeds and the instructor got shitty with me about how common it was and that my parents paid for the holiday for the pair of us and we were spoilt. The problem was this kid was a complete stranger to me and he just got ignored by the instructor. He paired 2 really young kids together and just left them to it.
My uncle was a Marine UDT diver in Vietnam and then became a fire department diver. I don't know how many drowning victims he recovered. He recovered the bodies of children and adults. He had some pretty good internal strength and sense of purpose to do that job. Just being a fireman is not for the faint of heart.
my husband was once a fireman. He was very brave and loved his work until he had to rescue this little 9month old in a tunnel accident which eventually died in his arms. from that very moment, he lost his strength for being a firefighter. he said that the job is not for a fainted heart person
That doesn’t mean he is any less brave. It means he dealt with something that could have traumatised any person. I’m sure he did many years of wonderful work and saved so many lives, and brought comfort to the unfortunate families. Never faint of heart but a true hero.
It looked to me like each one of the deceased divers had only one tank that seems like they should not have been that deep with only one from watching your other videos. Thank you both for another great video and showing us all the full spectrum of what diving can be. I love watching you both reacting to videos and sharing all your incredible knowledge. It is because of both of you that I am very much thinking of getting into diving. I would have to say that I wouldn’t want anyone to put them self at great risk to recover my body. I am passed and what’s left is an empty shell no reason for someone to be at great risk to recover an empty vessel
I didn't notice that, but you're right it seems like they tried pushing it to far. Unfortunately when you push something to it's limit you no longer have a plan B.
Being very familiar with Dahab’s blue hole where I worked for 5 consecutive summers, I can tell you that 89% of the deceased divers « only had one tank », some didn’t even die because they got too deep or tried to reach and cross the arch, but once you die and sink, your lead belt prevents your body to float up once it starts decomposing.
They probably were so narced that they didn’t even realize what was happening. Doesn’t even look like he was on nitrox too or any other special mixture.
@@yourgrandmasalzheimerpills1143 You wouldn't use Nitrox for deep dives anyway. Nitrox reduces your max depth in exchange for longer NDL. That said, from just the old corroded tank you can't tell which gas they used. Putting Nitrox stickers on tanks isn't that common a thing and they don't last decades in salt water. Since the bodies have been there for many decades we can be sure they had normal air though.
@@Yggdrasil42 oh ya most definitely I mean you can get away with eanx levels below 30% for maxing depth out but who would use that on a technical dive lol. I’ve seen open water divers mix for 28% overseas In order to reach 140ft but with a bottom time less than 5 minutes 😂
I've got thalassaphobia, and I'm here to learn the level of courage that other people have that I'll never comprehend. Y'all are braver than the credit you're given. God bless you all. 🙏🏾💯
I'm with you but you have to remember, these divers don't have that fear so the "bravery" you imagine having to have to do this with thalassophobia isn't A factor for them. Bravery involved in rescue missions sure but goofing off in the ocean doesn't require bravery or courage.
I was a paramedic in a major city for 18 years. I also have no intetest in gore or death. Though I am rope rescue certified and have repelled from the 40th floor to the ground and been in burning ships and buildings nothing looks scarier to me than cave diving. Watching your vids is like a roller coaster to me. I enjoy the educated and personal commentary. Great channel.
I hope this isn't weird but thank you for your service. (I believe those kinds of thank you's aren't only required for war veterans) You help people in a big way and I just want you to know it's greatly appreciated.
I dove the Dahab Blue hole as a sports diver during the second Gulf war. I was backpacking around to different sites. There was virtually no one there but I did meet a German guy to dive with. We camped on the Camel Dive Club grounds though we didnt dive with them (they werent diving). We "trained" for the Blue hole - dove a couple of other deep dives to get to know the area and each other. We made a pact - during the dive if either of us felt we wanted to surface, no discussion, we would surface. We took a local taxi to the hole with our gear, hopped in, descended and looked for the swim thru which I believe is at around 57 meters. We got to 54 meters (1 tank - the deepest Ive ever been) and couldn't see any sign of the swim thru. We looked at our air and each other and said F!!!! this. We went up, made a couple of stops on the way and dove over the lip into the blue. We dove the wall until it was time to surface. To dive the Dahab Blue Hole you gotta 1) watch your guages 2) know your limits 3) be disciplined. As gr8 as it would have been to go thru swim thru in the end it wasn't worth the risk. In many ways Im glad we didnt see the swim thru - it might have proven a bit too tempting. It was a beautiful dive nonetheless.
You made a bad call to go that deep on one tank (I'm guessing also you dived on air which is also a problem at that depth), but you made absolutely the right call to turn around. Unsure what level of training you have but I strongly recommend that you don't dive that deep on air or without the right training. If you want to dive that deep or gain the skills to keep you safe there are plenty of good instructors in NZ. I personally know someone who thought that they could handle deep dives on air / or claim to not suffer from narcosis, unfortunately that person is no longer with us. Take care and dive safe.
@@theownerofthechannel Yeah we dove with air on one tank. For practice we did another dive nearby on another day called the Canyon (see Canyon Dahab on TH-cam). On that one we dropped to 30M between rocks (the Canyon) and swam down it (it was covered..like a big tunnel). The dive was to dive maybe 50m laterally while continuing down to an exit at 50M. When we popped out at 50m my dive mate started to giggle uncontrollably. It was pretty weird but we surfaced without incident. Thinking back my buddy was definitely narked to some small extent. This emboldened us for the Blue Hole nonetheless. Yeah, I know theres instruction etc .. but tbh I dont have a burning desire to go that deep again. For me its a creepy feeling and one mistake (or Egyptian rented equipment failure) and you are in a world of hurt. (no disrespect to Egyptians). Definitely - dive safe.
I agree with Gus, I would want to be recovered so that I don’t turn someone away from diving forever. That being said, if I end up in a spot that is too dangerous to get to, much like in bushman’s hole, leave me to the watery depths. I don’t want anyone to risk their life to recover me at that point, I would already be gone, and nothing is going to change that.
There’s grave stones at the entrance to the dive site and people still dive there so it doesn’t put people off If anything, I think it serves as a reminder that you’re not immortal and to take care, for me at least. I think that the bodies remain at the request of the family, it was where he was most happiest.
My father works part-time as a body searcher and dives for bodies of drowned people. And from the storys he told me, Families are always relieved when the bodys are recovered so they can see them for the last time and so that they can say goodbye one last time.
One of the saddest, most paradox thing about the blue hole is that so many divers died when they run out of air, while one amazing freediver (William Trubridge) swam through the arch on a single breath without even fins. My mind struggles to bring these two facts together.
He was able to free dive it because he wasn’t breathing, he wasn’t at risk of being narc’d because the concentration of gas in his lungs remains the same. Without the high pressure air coming into his lungs from a scuba apparatus, nitrogen concentration is too low to affect a free diver like it would a scuba diver.
I don’t believe rescuers should “risk” their lives in order to remove a dead body. If the body can be safely and orderly removed, by all means remove it.
Not as simple as it sounds. The same reasons why all those dead bodies on Mount Everest (or on the way to the top) are not removed. Not just a risk to yourself, but what happens if body will fall apart along the way, break, and you will just leave pieces behind, or when putting a body inside the bag it will be broken apart completely (especially under water). And that on top of any legal reasons, dealing with any local laws, state, and family. Also there is no guarantee that a few years later one family member will not sue you, because they have changed their mind about recovery. You never know at the end... So at the end... it is not up to you. It is up to the family members (or even state itself in some cases) to start those questions and take it from there. Otherwise it is just internet speculations, of why, why not, it looks easy, I would go for it, and other crap like that.
@@tannhauser5399 The family can't sue anyone because someone decided to climb a mountain and freeze to death. It's really not up to the family. It's up to the sherpas who are risking their lives to recover the body. If they think it's not safe, your family members body isn't being recovered...PERIOD. Try to sue all you want, you won't get far. Local and state law has literally nothing to do with Mt Everest.....The only laws applicable are Nepalese laws as that's where the mountain is located.
I would only want someone to recover me if their life was not in danger. This is a devastating way to go , can’t imagine what they were feeling or thinking horrific way to go. My thoughts with the family members of those they lost.
I’m not a diver but I feel the same. If I died in any really dangerous area, the last thing I would want is for someone to risk their life to retrieve a body I wasn’t using anymore anyway.
The dead body's are good because everyone who does a risky sport must accept the fact that could be them and fear prevents from going further ur limits if ur smart. You must accept u have 1 life and save it or accept the risks of dieng
The eerie part when seeing a body doing something like this is knowing that you are that person, everybody that does it thinks they’re the best, everybody thinks that it’s not going to be them but none of that matters, it happens and it could just as easily be you. It’s like a window into an alternate universe, a life cut short, destine to rest there for eternity, as you just pass by and see what could have been.
I'm a military diver and have worked with rescue divers and one of the reasons that they will leave a body is that the amount of decay requires very special care to prevent the body from breaking down into very small pieces and is not as simple to do as you would think...
not sure if im allowed to say this but thank you for your service for whatever you do im not sure if im allowed to say that but you said you were "military diver" so i always thank the military people for there bravery hope that is okay.
@@angelicadonelan9119 🤦♂️ being in the military is a job,not an elevation to sainthood,that extremely tired “thank you for your service clichè is ridiculous. The vast majority of people in western armed forces never go near an active front line. Shall we go through the statistics..? They are readily available with just a quick google..
As a diver I think these types of videos are important to show the realities of diving and why exactly a dive can be so dangerous and the possible death. Sometimes people have to see the graphic videos to really truly realize this isn’t a walk in the park.
I’m not into gore or watching other people get hurt or anything but these videos are necessary. No matter what your sport/ hobby you need to know the risks.
I love to swimming. Never gone an a deep dive... Would've love to be... one day... But still... I wouldn't do any daredevil dive... Because I don't think any worth seeing in ocean that actually worth dying for. I mean, the water is dark, cloudy... not exactly a sight to be hold. If I am going to die... I want to it be as close to most beautiful place in world as possible... Like some lakes in Nevada. Man... I would die peacefully.
Brother in law was a Navy Diver in the mid 2000s to 2011. After the Earthquake/Tsunami of 27th February 2010 he was called for recovery mission in the souther part of the country where the tsunamis hit hard. Years later on a camping trip while we were drunk he told me the stories of what he seen down there and the nightmares.
Completely agree with Gus about the comments. A human life lost is a human life lost period. My heart goes out to the family members of these fallen people. Stay safe everyone.
Just think of those 10 people in Buffalo, who just went to the grocery store, and never came home!! Can't imagine the dangers of diving, what you might see down there
My best fiend started commercial diving 2 years ago. He welds the inside of water tanks and other industrial dive jobs that I'm not educated on. We're super close, like known each other since we were 4, so since I found your channel it's given me a much needed insight on what he does and how incredibly dangerous it can be. In a sense it's made us closer because before he goes out on a big project for a few months we really make the most out of our time before he leaves. He loves what he does, but I would be lying if I didn't say I wish he had another job 😂 I have so much respect divers, and this channel really shines a light on some of the scary realities of diving. What a challenging job and or hobby.
@@chrisj.5839 I could care less how fishy you think it is. Just wanted to share my story with these guys because I've learned a ton through their videos. Very strange thing to lie about too. But take it however you want dude, good day.
I lost my best friend recently and all I can say is hold to him as hard as you can let em know you love em 10x more than before, I’m glad you found out how dangerous his job is and intentionally spend more time with him I pray he is safe on all his trips and returns home to you and the fam 🙏🏾❤️
While exploring bunker-caves on Iwo Iwo Jima it was common to find clusters of skeletons where soldiers had taken their own lives with ceramic grenades. In reverence to that I never got used to it. We were required to report findings to the Japanese government so when they came out each year for a ceremony, those men would be on the roster. Most finds were left "as is" kind of like the US battle ship Arizona.
Hi Guys just watched the video on the boat that sank and did so in half an hour, in the Philippines. I don't know any of the people on the ferry I was in tears, especially the finding of the child. Thank you for keeping it real but keeping it respectful for the victims and the families. May your Gods keep you safe.
Your commentary is very respectful and humble. I don't do any swimming let alone diving, I'm terrified of depths, but still found this video and will watch some others from you. Thank you for posting this. Stay safe.
Diving the wreck of the Conrad of the Florida keys back in the 90s with a camera man filming our dive and tickling lobster out from under coral overhangs for his dinner. He had a camera with an adjustable screen he could point up while using the camera as a "scope" to look under the coral for lobsters. We got a copy of the dive from him and while watching it, we found a part where he was putting the camera under some coral, and you could see there was an opening back in the small coral cave where light was coming in from above and lit up the face of a free diver who had gone in probably after a lobster and got stuck. All you could see was his head from about the shoulders up, but he had on goggles and a gold chain around his neck and just stared back at the camera 20' below the surface. No chance anyone could have posed for that without a tank and survived and he was definitely not in our dive group. the camera man didn't even notice him while looking down at the viewfinder for the lobsters and was as surprised as we were when we let him know. We think he must have gone out to the reef on a small boat or board to catch lobster that drifted off after he never came back up. No way to even know where that coral was to go back for him but if you're ever diving the Conrad, maybe don't eat the lobster, their scavengers.
I hope you or the lobster guy at least reported it to the police. Might be a situation like this where he was left because it was too difficult to retrieve him or he could’ve been out solo and is considered missing.
Father was a Navy Diver for 30 years. I did my first dive age 9 on a home made rig. I’ve done well over 1000 dives by the time I was 26. You could Never pay me enough to do cave diving! Any diving over 100 ft is all types of dangerous We had friends bent into pretzels from doing experimental diving. No thank you.
Back in the 90’s I watched a tv show about a group of divers who were going to dive into a newly discovered pothole. It was a small pool on top but hugely deep. On the way they said there were a lot of potholes in the area and a pair of American divers had gone missing in the area. It was an incredible watch. It was well filmed and you could feel the tightness. The pothole had a tunnel at the bottom. The diver with the camera was pushing along this passage then all of a sudden there was a body! The camera went all over the place with equipment flying around. The breathing went rapid too. It was horrible. Then the diver got himself under control and slowly got himself out. He couldn’t go up straight away so had to wait near the bottom with someone so they were pretty deep. In light of what you are discussing I think this is another consideration about seeing a body - panic! It was gripping to watch. Totally unexpected. Listening to how difficult it is to remove a body where they actually can get dismembered my answer to Gus is leave me there if it’s not going to panic people or prevent diving (as in the case of the Edmund Fitzgerald). At least move me or cover me if I’m in an undignified position. I would like to be acknowledged and named. People could be acknowledged with a ribbon with writing on it floating about, or cairn if you can’t reach the body - just some acknowledgment would be better than a body just lying there stuck.
Most of the people who are dead only had one tank. I think it is obvious they dove too deep for the oxygen supply they had. I wonder is there a hyperbaric chamber nearby, so if you accidentally go too deep and have to surface without adequate stops? It seems this would be a good place for such a facility.
Me and my 2 friends were once diving, everything was going good until one off my friend got a panic attack under 40 feets below the sea. She was so scared that she literally ripped off her regulator, luckly my other friend removed the weights and we somehow swim up . Man, it was one of a horrible experience. Btw sorry for my bad english guys.
@@Vivek-zy1ux I didn't read anything wrong in your English, it's great. Don't listen to juvenile individuals. I can't speak another language whatsoever, so those who do are amazing 👍
Egyptian recreational diver here 👋. The Blue Hole is amazing to dive. Am not into deep diving, so we usually stay above 30 meters and we don’t go inside caves or caverns. All the instructors I talked to said that the main issue with the Blue Hole is people not knowing their limits and when to stop. Technical divers who push their luck and even recreational ones who try to do deep diving on one tank. There is a plaque, an homage to these poor lost souls, at the very edge of the hole and it’s heartbreaking and eerie at the same time. There are myths about “the call of the hole” and how it can pull you under. It’s mesmerizing to be honest going into the hole, all this blue nothingness around you. Some divers actually cry. Personally, the first time I went in, I was in awe. I couldn’t stop looking into the vast blue. Just be safe, know your limit and follow safety protocols. Years ago, I asked an instructor about retrieving the bodies, he said some are bodies are jammed in, others are too deep while the rest have been dead for so long, it would be hard to get the proper governmental permits to do it. I don’t know how accurate this is, but will double check with a friend of mine who does this for a living in Dahab. Dive safely everyone.
When i was going to college someone in one of my classes, their father, died whole diving. When the family was asked if they wanted the body recovered for funeral purposes, the family denied the request. Sometimes the family chooses to not have the bodies recovered. In the situation im talking of, the father LOVED diving. He adored it and his family all knew it was his passion. They felt that to recover his body was an insult. He died doing what he loved, and in a way they felt leaving his body was sacred in some way. Basically it was his final resting place and they didnt want to disturb that. And so what they did was held a funeral, on nearby cliffs overlooking his final rest. They don't leave the bodies because they dont care. They leave SPIRITS at rest, because they care alot. Some families also hope these bodies will serve as a warning to other divers as well. The body is like a bill board and it reads "are you absolutely sure your ready for this? Because this is a possible outcome" Many people think they are prepared and thats exactly how these people passed. Its a raw and real reminder of the dangers to come. A warning to divers to double, triple, quadruple check before risking it all. These bodies are the families way of protecting others from the same fate. These people did not die in vain. Even now their message can be heard. "The deep is dangerous, even deadly. Be ready. Be prepared" Bless these souls. Thank you for keeping others safe. May you rest peacefully in the beautiful blue. May your families live well. ❤
I did my year 12 research project on Nitrogen Narcosis. And one of my primary evidence sources was footage of a man who just went straight down and didn't realise how deep he was till he hit the bottom. His body was recovered, but clearly not all of them are. Deep diving is something else, man.
Not many, if any, sites will show raw footage. I'm so grateful you do because it emphasizes how dangerous diving can be. I'm sure you've saved lives by deterring people from making unsafe decisions, you're just unaware of them.
I dont dive and probably couldn’t because of my fear of open water, but this should be taken as very educational and give those brave enough an idea of what the proper procedures are.
I think that you will be shocked at how your fear goes away being one with the ocean. Don’t dive deep just where all the critters are living and you will be fine.
Did Annapurna & Everest on ‘05. There had been an avalanche 2 days before we arrived & the chopper went out for the first 3 night of walking up. 7 souls were lost - 4 Sherpas & 3 climbers. We were told that due to costs, the chopper stops after 5 days unless someone else pays, meaning unless they are found quickly, then it would be the following Spring until there would be another opportunity to look for them.
From Wikipedia on the death of Diogenes: "When asked how he wished to be buried, he left instructions to be thrown outside the city wall so wild animals could feast on his body. When asked if he minded this, he said, 'Not at all, as long as you provide me with a stick to chase the creatures away!' When asked how he could use the stick since he would lack awareness, he replied: 'If I lack awareness, then why should I care what happens to me when I am dead?' To the end, Diogenes made fun of people's excessive concern with the 'proper' treatment of the dead."
@@roebbiej many species of ants will have a designated place where they put ants that have died with some species even going as far as burying them. some termites have also been seen to bury their dead
Hi, I was a Diving Instructor and multiple Dive Centres Owner for many years with more than 25000 dives under my belt. In my opinion it does not make sense to risk a life to recover a dead boby. On another note - an ex commercial diver buddy of mine used to say " There are old divers and bold divers...but no old bold divers" Dive safe, you only have one life. Mick
I completely agree with you. Kind of like when Shaw died. He was trying to recover another divers remains. Although I think he practiced very unsafe diving, it's sad it happened.
Climbers have died trying to recover bodies from Mount Everest bodies. Not worth the risk. Usually the bodies are just pushed off a cliff, so they’re no longer visible
This place is the Mount Everest of dive locations it would seem. Still bodies atop Mount Everest til this day, but they have recovered a lot of the ones that were notoriously seen during treks to the summit each year. Very tragic, and very surreal. It's definitely a visual warning for anyone as they attempt their own endeavor to take heed and take every precaution. The most similar concept between these places being, if it doesn't fit the steps and procedure , don't attempt beyond those guidelines to keep yourself alive. One step out of the routine, could land you in a deadly position.
Everest bodies are rarely recovered, because the climbers don’t have enough oxygen to carry the body’s weight. Instead the bodies are just pushed off a cliff, so they’re no longer visible
@@electrictroy2010 Vortex and Morrison in Florida panhandle just as bad on my checkout day they lost 3 that was long ago and many more have died there Florida is full of caves and caverns
@@jacqqulen9106 Because it's exhausting! Try running on a tread mill for 10 minutes breathing from a straw. High altitude climbers barely have strength enough to descent on their own, let alone tending to a 100kg block of ice.
@@jacqqulen9106 There's 1/3rd of the oxygen available at sea level. Even for Sherpas that are genetically predisposed to that it must be exhausting, not to mention picking up the bodies from cliffs that go down for hundreds of meters
As always, Good job on the way you guys handled this video. As a retired Rescue/Recovery diver, here in the upstate of SC. I have always looked at the victim, as the vessel that the person was in and not try to look at it as a person. I think this is my way of dealing with the incident and mission at hand. I always feel more for the family than the victim. As far as for myself, I believe the same thing. I'm gone, "my soul has left the building", the body was just the vessel that my soul was in. I'm with both of you guys when it comes to recovery, if its in a place that will not put anyone else at risk, get it, if its not leave it there. At least I died doing what I love. Keep up the GREAT work and have a great weekend.
I was diving in the Coral Sea and there was a guy who went with one of the dive masters and dived to 60m on one tank each. The divemaster was playing a macho game and ran out of air on the slow ascent, luckily the other guy was part amphibian and had enough left to get them to the surface. At the surface the divemaster had to make up a story as to why he had no air...this was back in '93... people do crazy stuff.
Maybe it’s just me but if I did end up dying in a cave diving accident, I’d probably not want anyone to risk their own lives just to bring my body back. Let the fish and the other sea animals do their thing.
No? The sea creatures can’t eat through your wet suit and equipment. You would just pollute the ocean, and if you are in a small space, like in a cave, your body decomposing would have released toxic chemicals in the area, and it would be hazardous to be there.
@@zoroverse8358 You couldn't be more wrong. Your wetsuit isn't a suit of armour. All sorts of creatures could eat your hands and head and then work their way in to your body. Plus some could rip through the wetsuit. Your body decomposing wouldn't release toxic chemicals. It would be just like any other thing decomposing in the sea. Broken down in to the smallest particles and eaten by everything even down to plankton and bacteria. Releasing only salts and minerals to the ocean in the process.
Lovely discussion about a difficult topic. I suspect that these bodies have been down there a long time. Decomposition would be well advanced, and bringing the body up would naturally result in basically a dive suit full of bones and sludge, deeply unpleasant for everyone involved - including family members - and potentially hazardous. Much safer, kinder and more respectful to leave them in a place they obviously loved. Divers have my respect. The more I learn about it, the more insanely complex and risky it seems to be. Outstandingly beautiful down there through… Just my opinions, obviously. I’m not a diver and never will be now, but like climbing, mountaineering and other risky activities people enjoy in the natural world, I’m grateful for the chance to see into another world through someone else’s eyes.
A friend of mine was a member of a dive club on Mauritius. He was sent out in a group to find a recover a diver lost the previous day. The diver was a flight attendant who was on a Dive Experience (I.e., untrained diver) who got herself into a recess when she saw a shark or other big fish. They found her in that recess with her eyes very wide (panic induced?) and zero air.
I knew a cave diver through a sister. He taught diving classes at FSU back in 1990-1992. He was a professional was loved diving in caves around north Florida. The last I heard of this diver was that he had suddenly died in some freak accident perhaps a cave collapse or some rapid change in water level or current. I was shocked. He was a cordial man. We would wave to one another as I passed by going to class and he was geared up along with his students to practice at the outdoor FSU pool.
Do you know if he ever dove the cave in Wakulla Springs? It’s close to Tallahassee and I think it’s pretty popular with cave divers. It’s a really cool place.
I probably could watch these things all day, but the fact is these poor souls were someone's loved one. It also serves as a reminder of the very real dangers of diving and how easily things can go very wrong. Very good commentary btw.
I see this as both a gruesome yet harrowing reminder that diving is dangerous, these people were as prepared as they could possibly be and still lost their lives. You always need to respect that these souls we're the best in their craft at the time, but sometimes even that isn't enough. I loved the video and I loved the respect that was shown throughout to both these diver's and their craft as a whole.
Most great content creators, in my opinion, cover a wide range of emotions. It makes the content more real and personal at least to me. So yeah I love you two goofing off but I also love when you cover serious things like this. It really shows how important diving is to you both.
I think they flooded the compartments of the Yamato ship and sealed the hatches to keep it from sinking. Must have sucked knowing you were doomed 100% to drown and there was 100% nothing you could do about it. Hundreds or thousands of sailors died because of that. It happens.
First year of high school, I learned that a student whom I had known about ever since middle school drowned during a dive session with his adult cousins. His entire family used to dive for years and years and were all properly trained. He was 15. He did not dive that deep, but it still happened. We were all in pure shock.
You both handled this topic with care and respect. That’s why I really like your posts, you both show heart and a balanced view. I appreciate your bringing awareness to this. Thanks guys. I would want to be recovered if possible for family sake unless it was an unreasonable risk to others.
My dad was a diver for years, but was always too afraid to cave dive. I do believe the bodies were left there requested by the families. These men died doing what they love the most and leaving their bodies there seems to be incredibly respectful. This was extremely heartbreaking to watch. May they rest in peace! 💔🙏
You guys gained a subscriber with this video. I lost two family members to an ocean dive in 2005. Thank you for being so especially respectful of the remains being viewed and discussed. You are excellent YTbers! Also, Edd Sorensen is an ACTUAL LITERAL super hero. He is a god!
Every time I see cave divers or hear to cave diving stories, I gain a whole new respect for the profession and hobby, and a whole new view on being able to breath so freely. I thank you who can recover the bodies of those who unfortunately succumbed to the deep waters.
There’s actually about four videos in this series. As for the shape of the bodies: we have to remember that they’ve been down there for some time and are now skeletons. So over time and movement of the water they’ve probably shifted from their original positions. They may have been stuck or wedged in when they first passed but now that it’s only skeletal remains there’d be plenty of room for the body to move about freely. Plus, the location of the bodies may not even be where they originally passed. Time and water movement may have moved them and now they’ve settled into crevasses or caught up in ropes etc. And as for leaving the bodies where they are that may simply be out of necessity. It is Egypt. And their facilities are not what we’re used to. And cremation is forbidden. So to bring these people up and get them home again without cremation would probably be a really expensive endeavour. So as much as a family may want to bring them home it may not be financially practical for them all to do so. And that might be a reason to leave them where they are.
There's also the fact they've been down there since the 90s and have decomposed beyond recognition. To bring them back intact would be basically impossible, and it's probably less traumatising to the families to leave them as intact as possible down there. The more recent deaths have had removals due to advances in technology.
@@eliastalks7411 That’s true, but the same could be said for bodies found on land that have been missing for decades. Families are generally happy to get anything back to bury (the events of 911 are a perfect example of this) to have the finality of a service. I also find that when a group of people die together and/or at the same time a lot of families want them to remain together unless all are able to be recovered.
The ocean fascinates me and intrigues me, I love seeing the images, but I also fear it greatly. My grandma used to say "the sea can always betray you", and I think of that any time I simply go to the beach. I'll never dive, but I respect the people who do and I'm thankful these films exist. It is heartbreaking to see dead divers still there though.
My grandpa was a navy diver right after WWII. We have an old b&w photo of him in the iron helmet dive suite labeled number 2. This was after he served on the Washington. He had a few insane stories
It's very interesting to hear why the bodies might be left there. I watched this video mainly because I've been curious about that and about why the blue hole is dangerous in the first place. Personally, I don't like the water and I hate being underground, so something strange would need to happen just to get me in a cave, but I'd probably agree that I wouldn't want my body retrieved if doing so risked anyone's life. This was a very interesting video overall.
There's another comment up there explaining that these people died during the '90 and they were found like two decades later and moving them would just disperse the bodies, so the families agreed to keep them out there
You guys are amazing ❤️ So respectful. I am not a diver... I am actually afraid of deep water lol but I have always been fascinated with our underwater world. While social media has not been the best thing for society... I have to say without it I would never have had the access to watch channels like yours & learn so much about diving and underwater exploration. So thank you both for being such wonderful teachers & guides. May God bless & protect you both all the days of your life ❤️
I was in the Sinai in 1990, working in the MFO. Three American Army Engineers dived the Blue Hole the year before. They planned to dive and pass through the cavern and return to the surface on the outside of the cliff face. At the cavern two of the divers indicated that they wanted to go to the bottom, as the visibility is insane, and the bottom looks like its "just there". He refused. He watched them descend and half way to the bottom they starfished, having been killed by oxygen toxicity. The Blue Hole has been officially Offlimits to any MFO military since then.
I am a skydiver, in our sport the bodies are easy to get. The trouble we have is we need the "authorities" to just let other skydivers figure out what went wrong so we can get a decent incident report out that other skydivers can learn from. It is almost never a crime when a fatality occurs, but there are also almost always reasons and lessons to be learned. "We know how he died! Get the body off the runway!" -famous quote (Authorities were zealously investigating and causing financial ruin at a large boogie for no good reason)
@@Enjoyer00 not explodes not kinda splatters lol like bust open maybe. I'm a truck driver and I've seen 2 bodies that were hit by a car at high speed and they were a pile of meat basically. Couldn't even really tell if they were a deer or human . Seems like it may be similar results.
This is so heartbreaking, I can’t imagine the horror this person went through while he was drowning, my condolences to his family , and all the divers that have passed away in this place. Since this place is very well known to have drowned divers I wouldn’t be surprised that this was the wishes of this or some of the divers to just leave them there knowing that they might die doing something that they love.of course this is just my opinion, I have so much respect for this divers.
They likely didn't drown, they would have died from CO2 poisoning. Thankfully at some point they would have gone unconscious, rendering their death painless.
Obligatory "not a cave diver", but I've had a few scary situations whilst surfing. I would never want anybody risking their life to retrieve my body. If possible, I'd love to be turned into compost used to grow a tree. However, being fish food sounds like an equally great time.
My request is to be cremated, my ashes put in the bare earth, and a dogwood tree planted on top of what's left of me. You're the first person I heard about who has the same idea. Cool. p.s. Have you heard of the eco-friendly fungi mycelium caskets?
@@saradejesus9869 I've heard of them, and I think they're fantastic. I honestly don't mind what tree it is (or what fish eats me). However, if I had to choose, it would be a Frangipani.
I was diving in Aruba in 1987 and I was an experienced diver and I went on a dive there and the instructor took 5 novice divers who had just been trained in a pool into a German wreck sunk there. I was stunned and told him I was going back to the dive boat which I did alone. That is risky for young inexperienced divers.
I’ll never go diving for this reason. The scariest thing for me is to suffocate, I just can’t imagine. Rest In Peace to these divers. Thank you for a respectful reaction video
Ehh stick with open water scuba and always have a partner who understands your limitations and you theirs. It’s a lot of fun, if you can keep an eye on time down, tank level, and not be a hot shot.
@@Aerogamer158 can you explain further on open water diving? I’d that like diving in a shallow ocean if there’s any ? I’m new to scuba diving . Looking to sign up soon
I will never understand extreme thrills like cave diving or mt climbing. When you are out doing things for "fun" and along the way there are bodies to show you what happens when you fail! It just blows my mind
Mountain climbing seems much safer and you at least get some beautiful views when compared to cave diving where you’re just in darkness with a small cone of light illuminating rocks. I max out at day climbs though. I would not want to climb Everest or some shit.
It is actually comparable to drinking coke, it tastes good, activates dopamine in our brains, it also risks us with diabetes and cancers. To them, that fun is just for babies, so they risk their lives for those achievements, because just like coke, it makes them happier. To each it's own. A matter of perspective. 🙂
But whats scary is the two guys boasting how much they know. So...is that much different? (I dont know the guys, they seem cool and love their passion for their hobby)
Crazy. I am certified diver and slowly getting on my way to get into skydiving. Two drastically different sports, but involve a level of respect and appreciation for the safety material of both. Taking care of gear, taking care of yourself, taking every precaution you could make, staying within your capabilities and being smart. There’s so much that comes with these risky activities, I love it and I don’t fear it but I respect it. Thanks for the vid, guys.
Green Boots is no longer there. They pushed it over the edge. Also getting a body down from the top of Everest is incredibly hard because it weighs twice as much when frozen. Getting a body down from K2 is impossible. The body might as well be on the moon
I imagine someday that technology will reach the point (mech/environmental suits or drones) that we can recover these bodies. Except, it will be more like an archeological dig than a rescue/recovery.
I've never dived before but your videos have me interested in learning the sport at some point. I am a rockclimber though and typically deaths only occur if someone (just like in diving) starts trying things outside their domain of skill/knowledge. With rockclimbing the a bodies will pretty much always land in an accessible area, unless caught on a ledge. I have never run into remains during my decades of climbing though.
You were pondering about the unnatural angle of the knee and the tank being in a strange position. We have to take into account that the wetsuit is filled with water and bones. All soft tissue is long gone. The suit will sag, it no longer fits the body. Marine life, currents and possibly some divers who might have tried to remove the body have caused the suit to flop into a strange position. The leg bones are likely disjointed and "float" free inside the suit, allowing the suit legs to wobble in any direction. The tank and harness have slipped off because the straps are loose after all the body bulk has disappeared.
I think I'm with Gus, if my body could safely be recovered then do it but if more lives get placed it risk trying then leave it. I do a lot of wildlife photography and while I lived in Florida my family expected me to die by animal attack. It was the accepted risk of getting into gator holes with some as big as 16 swimming around me. I got some great shots and almost attacked a few times. The standing request should I not come back was not come looking for me because I didn't want the gator killed or whatever killed me killed as is Florida law. I stepped into their environment and most of the places I went no other person had been deep into the swamps and forests off trails by miles. Finding me would be sheer luck anyway. I've been treed by big feral hogs, tracked by a very large bear that when I showed the pics to the game warden later said was a old bear looking for a easy meal. I've had a mountain lion sit above and behind me in the attack position that had I not felt something staring at me and turned to look would have taken me out in Oklahoma. When we follow our passions and they come with life and death risks the subject of what if has to be considered. I have a woman who won't let me take those risks now along with kids and grandkids I'd like to watch grow up so that keeps me a little more safety oriented in my photography. Still take risks for the shot but not like I used to. But they all know if I see a chance for a amazing picture I'm going for it. I don't think people who live rather safe and ordinary lives fully understand those who don't live that way. I watch these snowboarders leap off the side of cliffs and think their nuts and then remember they would say the same about me getting into a gator hole to photograph baby alligators knowing a very protective mother is in there somewhere, which has been the reason for every near death attack I've had. One man's insane is another man's awesome.
I love the movie quote, "people die at the fair" , to me it has come to represent the fact that we are soooo fragile, even though you might be doing something super fun and seemingly safe, the slightest distraction, the tiniest misstep could result in complete disaster, it does no good to live in fear, but it does alot of good to just be aware of the potential danger of anything you do. People die at the fair.
My dad was a professional diver and he got stuck 63 times in these crevices. Thankfully he managed to get loose all 64 times and he still diving there. Also my friend's dad was diving in the blue hole and he saw a skeleton and he quit diving. Also my girlfriend's dad was diving one time and he lost a flipper to a hammerhead shark after he got stuck in a reef looking at some fish that looked like many nemos. Also my neighbors dad was also a diver and he gut stuck under a boat because he got caught on a large mass of barnacles but he's ok now.
I worked 5 consecutive summers in Dahab’s blue hole as a divemaster, so I might be able to answer your interrogations.
Those bodies you see in the video are well known, and they are there for a reason: the first two wedged in between the rocks are at a depth of approximately 60-70meters according to my memories, while the third one with the yellow tank floating is at a depth of between 100-130 meters. Those 3 divers all died in the 1990s and none of those 3 bodies were found until the beginning of the 2000s when trimix became more popular and available in the, at the time known as, “hardcore teckies” circle of divers. Even though there were divers able to dive on trimix at those depths, the bodies were already in such a state of decomposition that if anyone would have recovered them, they’d have recover nothing but a suit, a bcd and a skull as the bones dislocates and fall during the ascent. It has been decided by the families to let them down there, in the environment they liked and as complete as possible.
Since the 2000s and the advances in diving equipment, mostly every single diver who died in the blue hole had his body recovered, which is why you don’t find more bodies underwater.
Woah, amazing!
Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the info!
Thank you, that does kinda complete the video.
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Good to hear, I can and do understand. I really do understand the family's wishes. I think as a diver it would be as good for a grave as anyplace. It's not like a 20-25 meter deep or less location that beginning divers are at.
I was a sport diver for 22 years, had three really close calls, about two years after the third one I sold everything, my boat, tanks, dry-suits, the lot, just thought I might not be as lucky if there's a fourth. You have to know when to quit.
Should’ve kept the boat and bought some rods !!! 😂
@@OfficialZombieStrats Oh I had rods, but your right, I should have kept the rib, was a beauty 👌
Good for you, some people are not that smart.
Good decision. Hope you found a new and safer hobby to enjoy though.
@@Access.Denied Yep, I now go wild camping/hiking. I find lakes and tarns and fish them, make a fire and cook what I catch, although I don't catch a lot 👍
Dad never said why but after diving for several years he came home from a dive and said it was the last one. He must have had a scary experience that day but never said what.
Did you thank your dad for his selfless act of quitting? If you haven't, thank him before he is gone.
@@JesusGodHolySpirit3 diving isn’t dangerous, these are people going to crazy places, know what your saying 💀
My thoughts 2 years later
I made this comment as a “joke” sorta, it started out serious but I knew what I said was ignorant 😂, I’ve never dove with actual diving gear (air tanks ect.) i do however free-dive and spearfish pretty well and often. All my replies were to just piss off as many people as I could lol. I do still stand by the thought that free diving isn’t dangerous FOR ME. I’ve been swimming for 20 years and only once in a boat inlet had small struggle. That being said, in general, yea, any kind of swimming can be dangerous.
@@tieronehush Why are you assuming that his/her dad didn't like the thrill of diving in dangerous and difficulty places?
And the reply does not take this possibility out of consideration, either.
Edit: And yes, cave diving IS dangerous, even if you take the necessary precautions and never go to hazardous areas. Human bodies use A LOT of oxygen and once you get lost down there, it's easy to run out of air before finding the way out.
Uknow name any sport that is actually selfless
@@tieronehush “diving isn’t dangerous”
My dad was a master diver and former navy seal and he used a rebreather a lot, well march 15 2008 he took a class down to dive in Deerfield Beach florida to teach them with the rebreather and his apparatus malfunctioned and he passed away 100 feet deep... they tried to save my dad but he was gone... 😢I miss my dad everyday but I have so much respect for scuba divers!
How old ?
Sorry for your lose....my respects to your dad for his service
Loss
Understandable, and sorry for your loss. He was doing what he enjoyed doing at least. Much respect for the SEALs, even though I'll give the Navy shit (and the AF too) lol
Fair Winds and Following Seas Shipmate. 🇺🇸🫡
I lost two friends while doing my dive master course. it was devastating I ended my future career . it was heartbreaking. RIP Connor and Martin
what happened?
@@skurinski early morning dive. best friends one was an instructor the other on the same DM course as I. both of em were funny kind Irish lads and best friends. who knows what happened but I doubt one would leave the other down there if something went wrong. Who knows but they were down beyond a safe depth and nitrox team had to go get them. It wasn’t that alone that made me stop. i also got really sick and had to come back to the US. Also the first dive I did after they passed I ended up with a wicked nose bleed and my mask was suddenly full of blood. i was just freaked out sad sick mess so I came home
Aw man, I'm so sorry. The fact that you lost two friends and suffered health problems while having to make such a difficult and drastic decision surely couldn't have been easy. I hope you didn't have to make your decision alone and that you had a supportive community around you. I also hope that you're doing better healthwise now and have found a new career pathway that is fulfilling for you. If you're not at that place yet, well, I suppose that I'll hope you get there sooner rather than later. 💔❤️🩹💖💙💜
Condolences
I'm so so sorry to hear that. I hope you're ok x
I believe that leaving the body there, if the family approves it, would be the best warning for people to learn this is not a game, and it's one of the most dangerous things you can do. Never overstimate your abilities when diving.
This is not a game! This is the real deal! Real hardcore stuff! Only for cool tough guys!
Hell no, that's so gross. Don't let them stay there lol
Families could of told them to leave the bodies there, and at the same time those bodies act as a warning to other divers- showing them what they are getting themselves into. The Ocean has taken their lives, might as well let it have their bodies.
@@douglasr.c.5622 That's a false equivalence.
@@TimahR Maybe....
"I don't want anyone to risk their lives for me to get me out". All respect to you guys, a message full of human morals.
I'm no expert, but from other stories I've heard, that is usually why the bodies are left. Sometimes, the decision has been made to leave the body after one of the recovery team leaves theirs as well. It blows my mind that people do this for fun. I can see why as far as the exploration and the surreal sights, but wow I would never consider putting on scuba gear.
Divers who rescue others get little recognition in UK, whether civilian or public worker. They found my brother in a lake in 88 at a barracks and i have never been able to find their names to thank them.
So thank you to all divers n rescuers. You give us closure and you treat our loved ones with so much respect during retrievals 👏🏼🇬🇧🙏🏻
As a climber,I'd like to add that mountain rescue services suffer much the same ignominy.Also we naturally assume that because someone is there and maybe even have all the right gear, that they know what they are doing. The amount of idiots I've encountered,told to descend, led,dragged,guided or carried down mountains over the years is staggering,idiots in sports gear and trainers,drunks,people in sandals and shorts etc.other climbers biting off more than they can chew, four soaked teenagers who walked into a dark mining shaft entrance to avoid the rain and fell into a hole full of water,a young family with a toddler and baby( I'm not joking)the list goes on,even at a relatively low altitudes the dangers are there. There are plenty of people taking part in activities that they have absolutely no right to,by virtue of ignorance. That ignorance imperils the life of every person involved in the rescue It's high time that those rescued who are found to be in such a position faced some sort of punitive measures for unneedignly putting the lives of others at risk.
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Natural selection doing its job my friend
@@yousef.al-assaf Indeed, but you can't just leave them there😂
@@notpoliticallycorrect1303 though keep in mind that if you punish them, you then inevitably create situations where people hide from/resist the people trying to rescue/help them so that they don't get in trouble. something to think about 🤷♂️
@@notpoliticallycorrect1303 If noone pushed their limits your knowledge on the matter wouldn't exist. To call them idiots is weird. Reckless sure but they are no more an idiot than the people that had to risk it and die so you can regurgitate knowledge you were taught because of their fortitude or ig idiocy in your world. Safety itself wouldn't be a thing had people not been willing to limit test first. Something to ponder the next time you judge the people you rescue for daring to do...
My best friend Herbie lost his life in Australia while abalone diving. We did not want anyone else risking their life retrieving his body. So we left him in the place we knew he loved. 🇦🇺🌊
Thanks for shading your story. Im glad his final resting place is a place he loved
Rip
As a Herbert (nicknamed Herbie since grade school) i send my condolences. Im sure he was an outstanding guy. His soul is at peace im sure
@@herbertbeltran9198 thank you, yes he was a great guy, he always donated part of his wage, to the princess Margaret children's hospital
that is so sad but beautiful , how you left him were he loved, truly sorry for your loss and hope you are well
Am I a diver? No.
Do I have any intentions of ever diving? Also no.
Am I obsessed with this channel? More than I care to admit.
And I can't even swim lol
@@user-uz7ns6uv8n yeah this is the only place I can see dead bodies without censorship as much.
Same here.
@@user-uz7ns6uv8n fr thats why i aint diving and i don’t even like water
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This is one of the reasons why I like this channel so much, even tho I'm not interested in dive and probably never gonna dive myself. The visions and respect you guys have for the ocean and for the sport as a whole is amazing. Also since I'm very much interested in climbing and hiking, the comparation with leaving bodies in Everest and all is a very good perspective too.
@@Justicia007 Yeah, I totally agree. I didn't really know how to put it like that but it's perfect
@@Justicia007 So true, it's very nice to see passionate people doing and talking about the things they love to do too. It's all wins
Same I'm 48 never dived never will, I've watched this channel from the start cos I'm fascination by cave diving. Done caving a Few' times but to cave dive wow, also think humans are tragedy watchers tragedy has highest using figures.
Couldn’t have put it better.
Same, love climbing but haven't ever dived, and don't think I will. Great channel though.
Many times divers who go to retrieve a dead body have died in the process. The man who wrote the book on cave diving died in a cave trying to recover a body. It’s very dangerous.
That's bad and horrible. It's like a recursive death. First death necessitates second risk which leads to another death. That death requires another risk for bodily removal process. It becomes a 100 car body pile up accident, only underwater. Maybe the Russians have it halfway right after all. Generally, no bodily recovery for dead soldiers. They rot where they fall. But that means they don't value the living either. What a sorry state of affairs.
As an Egyptian, i can confirm that the beauty of the blue hole is something to be very careful with as it seems very inviting at first from shallow waters. Ive been there several times and its always a sight to see those stones with the names of those who lost their lives to this place.
That's Haunting.
@@nickp97 it looks lovely
Id love to visit to see the beauty but i wouldnt risk my life, scary.
hi is it ok to just swim the surface?
@@HoneyPie1978 Yes the surface is fine. Its the deep diving that’s dangerous. Other than that, the surface is great and you’ll see a lot of sea creature and beauty.
Folks, I’ve been diving Dahab for 23 years now. and know a little bit about what goes on at and around the Blue Hole. Allow me to explain a bit.
First consider it’s a super popular dive site, with some of the most fantastic wall dives in the world - the outer wall of the Blue Hole goes down vertically to 1,270m - notwithstanding the Blue Hole itself. The area is super deep, and you dive from the shore, and the deepest part is right next to the shore, where the Great African Rift passes right next to the Sinai. There are other sites next to the Hole, like The Bells, a vertical crack in the coral platter that goes down vertically to 1,300m, and you jump in it from the shore… This dive is a deep wall dive, going down the crack, exiting below 35m and drifting along the wall to resurface in the blue hole not through the Arch, but through a saddle that connects the Blue Hole to the open sea.
The reason those bodies are not recovered is simple: they died long time ago, when tech diving was the apanage of very very few people, and the bodies are very deep. The first two bodies you see in the video are at 92m according to my computer, while Barbara Dillinger, whose yellow tank is floating, is at 112m.
Because the state the bodies are in, families have decided to leave them there. There are at least 4 more bodies in there that I know of, at about 120m. People continue to die at the hole, but in recent years tech diving and rebreathers have become much more common, and diving to 120m, while challenging is no longer the feat a just a few, and the bodies are recovered. Even Yuri Lipski’s body was recovered from 120m many years ago.
To give you an idea, most bodies, including Yuri’s, have been recovered by Tareq Omar, the first tech diver in Dahab and owner of Club Red Dive center.
Three categories of people die at the hole: daytime adventurers who think they are hip and try to do the Arch on single tanks, techies who venture beyond their limits, get narked and go for the bottom and freedivers who want to do the Arch without having the required level.
"freedivers who want to do the Arch without having the required level" Is it even possible to freedive the arch? I know next to nothing about freediving, but it seems crazy that someone could freedive the arch while others die trying to do it with a single air tank.
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@@3xceIIent 253 m is the record. but the person who did it needed medical attention after (or during can't remember)
@@3xceIIent has been done many times, successfully, that I know of - by William Trubridge, Thibault Guignes, Natalia Molchanova, Alexey Molchanov, Alexander Bubenchikov.
But if you know about freediving, you'd recognise these names - world champions and world record holders. The very best of the best.
Are you sure that's Barbara Dillinger? I have seen conflicting accounts on whether she had surfaced in a panic attack and died in an ambulance from surfacing too quickly.
As a former firefighter/EMT as well as recreational diver with 24 years of experience, the one thing I always remember before each dive is to leave the arrogance on the surface. The day you say you have learned it all is the day that will ultimately show you that you haven't learned crap. For me personally, diving has not only been a sport that opened up another world to me, but a lesson in humility. Watching a video like this is a good eye opener and a reminder that we are fragile creatures.
As a former cats mother's neighbours cousins uncles grandads right knee cap.... bla bla you're hella annoying dude. LET ME JUST BIG MYSELF UP FOR A BIT OF BEG ON TOAST SO EVERYONE COMMENTS WOW WHAT AN AMAZING HUMAN YOU ARE LMAO own trumpet blown much too much. Tosser 👊🏻
I agree. Also a former EMT/FF, this profession that we chose has its own danger factor. For some, that’s why we do it and also to serve our community. But the reality of this, a great deal of hobbies and or careers have a danger factor. For some, that’s why we do it, the adrenaline rush, the feeling of being alive. But the fact is, the moment that you think your invisible is the moment you will cease to exist yourself.
@@zenayvonne4820 Might want to switch to decaf
@@joepreuitt4658 100% agree.
I feel like inexperienced divers have accidents for obvious reasons then you have the divers in the middle who tend to be ok. It’s the divers with 1000s of dives who start getting complacent or push things too far that often have fatal accidents.
You can never be too careful.
As 34 year old non swimmer, with 52 years of non diving experience I can confirm that it's not safe to do these dives.
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@@user_abcxyzzyes Jeffrey lol
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Getting trapped in an underwater cave and drowning mixes my fear of deep water with my claustrophobia...so to me this would be the scariest way to go...then seeing the bodies of other divers just makes it that much scarier, and very very sad.
May those brave souls rest in peace.
Same... that is my worst fear
Carrying 4 tanks of air probably boosts confidence a lot lol
Me too…that is my worst nightmare
Souls resting in peace is a overused fallacy. Does everyone automatically go to heaven because they die? Is every single person a born again Christian? Sadly not. Not even people in the churches will be in heaven. Of course some will, but believing in Jesus doesn't mean you go to heaven. The devil believes in Jesus. You must be born again in the spirit. We know that most of humanity will be in hell because Jesus said, broad is the way to destruction, narrow is the path to eternal life and FEW will find it.
It wouldn’t be that bad if you had nitrogen narcosis.
I dove that site a few years ago, on air. We entered through Bells and ended up in the Blue Hole. I was down around 35m and I could see the arch. I can understand the temptation to want to swim through it; it looks close, not toooo deep (when it actually is, if you're diving air) and like you could do it quickly. Obviously, having researched the site ahead of time, I wasn't even tempted to try.
Wow!!
I think this is the dive I did too. Swam along the wall and then over the top and exited from within the blue hole
@@LG-Musique Narrow shore entry, through a tunnel carved in the coral? That's Bells.
I believe there's another entry over the top, though. We'd have to ask one of these folks who has DM'd out there. I only did the one dive at that location.
@@JoeSaintSeven yeah that was it. It was about ten years ago now. I’d already heard stories about people running out of air etc so I pre-ordered a 15L tank for the dive and turns out I had plenty of air, but others in the group had come out low on gas. I think the biggest problem was lots of people aren’t great with maintaining neutral buoyancy above a big drop and that uses up gas more quickly that a normal 30m dive
just to clarify: the Bells to the Blue Hole is NOT the same dive as the descent down the Blue Hole and out the Tunnel to the Red Sea. i have done the former several times, most recently 2 years ago. the latter is a challenging tech dive and has taken the lives of numerous divers, many of whom (mostly for Eastern Europeans) have have had plaques and memorials mounted on the rocky wall adjacent to the dive site. i was once approached by a foolish and very cocky individual who wanted to borrow my PADI Advanced Open Water dive card in order to rent equipment and do the Blue Hole. needless to say, i told him what he could go do to himself!
My dad was a diver for nearly 30yrs. He was search and rescue. He dove ships in the great lakes. And one trip to a Caribbean ship wreck he came home and hung up his flippers. Never was a topic he would discuss. Whatever happened. It had to terrify him.
What happened, did your dad retire?
@@vanessahollenbach85 That's what he said. "Hung up his flippers" So yeah he gave it up.
So did he stop diving ? Like quit or something?
@@JosePerez-ok8ez Yeah, he gave up for good after he saw something disturbing is what the comment alludes to. So yes he quit.
@@JosePerez-ok8ez never got wet again
My friends boyfriend died this way. He was diving off the navasink in NJ to retrieve a piece of machinery that fell off a bridge. He got caught and drowned. So devastating
I just heard of a friend who knew someone who was kayaking in a bay and flipped. He was a navy seal but the water was too cold. He hung in there for a while but eventually died. Sad for himself as that is a painful way I have heard, and his family.
Had a very close call diving in Mallorca 20 years ago. At that time was a 2star certified diver but had only +-35 dives when i went diving on vacation at a local diving center. The dive instructor told me we also would be diving in an open rock formation in a canyon. Because i use more oxygen then the average diver i dived with a bigger (wider) tank. Everything went well until the instructor made the decision to dive into a tunnel that was also in the canyon and the opening was very small. The instructor went first and i would follow but because the tunnel was so small he couldn't see me. When i was just about 10 meters into the tunnel i got stuck with my tank because it was to wide. I could not go forward or backward at that moment. The instructor was not aware of the situation and went further..If i panicked at that moment it was game over and it would cost me my life. Luckely i could stay calm and by wonder i managed to get out of my jacket and i could go further without the jacket on my body dragging it together with the tank behind me. I got out of the tunnel but it was close. That's the problem on vacation, you never know how skilled the instructors are at these local dive centers or how many risks they are preparded to take with vacation divers they don't know.
Oh my gosh!!! How terrifying! Good for you for staying calm and thinking quickly to get yourself out of that situation! I'm glad that you made it out okay!!
I can relate to you my friend. I too went straight down into an opening of a material service barge with my new dive buddy in front of me and before I knew it my mask was pulled off by metal wreckage I was entangled in and my regulator ripped out of my mouth, wedged upside down. Fortunately I had the prior experience of a training mishap which had taught me the importance of staying calm and thinking things through. I reached around behind my head to locate the regulator at the top of my tank and traced it around to my right and untangled it and from there after once getting air again managed to get some of the metal debris out from around me and was able to move farther down into the opening and luckily saw daylight through another opening. If not for the early training mishap where I had panic and had an instructor teach me the importance of staying calm I am sure I would have other wised panicked and drowned. Lesson learned and that was about 40 years ago.
@Chris Hughes This is a certification system of the Dutch speaking part of Belgium that is used by all the official diving clubs from Flanders (Dutch speaking part of Belgium) . It starts from 1 to 4 stars.
I did my Padi in Majorca and one of the young kids that was on the course got a couple of nose bleeds and the instructor got shitty with me about how common it was and that my parents paid for the holiday for the pair of us and we were spoilt. The problem was this kid was a complete stranger to me and he just got ignored by the instructor. He paired 2 really young kids together and just left them to it.
@@petervandenbosch6353 that’s terrible behaviour from the dive master. Make sure to always chose good guides
My uncle was a Marine UDT diver in Vietnam and then became a fire department diver. I don't know how many drowning victims he recovered. He recovered the bodies of children and adults. He had some pretty good internal strength and sense of purpose to do that job. Just being a fireman is not for the faint of heart.
my husband was once a fireman. He was very brave and loved his work until he had to rescue this little 9month old in a tunnel accident which eventually died in his arms. from that very moment, he lost his strength for being a firefighter. he said that the job is not for a fainted heart person
My uncle did it as long as he could and sadly passed of cancer at 54. They have to be able to look past the losses and see the successes.
@@lisamcdonald7828 I hope he's getting some rest 🚒❤️
You have to have a certain strength of love for people to recover the dead and it not mentally harm you. A strong sense of humanity is required.
That doesn’t mean he is any less brave. It means he dealt with something that could have traumatised any person. I’m sure he did many years of wonderful work and saved so many lives, and brought comfort to the unfortunate families.
Never faint of heart but a true hero.
It looked to me like each one of the deceased divers had only one tank that seems like they should not have been that deep with only one from watching your other videos. Thank you both for another great video and showing us all the full spectrum of what diving can be. I love watching you both reacting to videos and sharing all your incredible knowledge. It is because of both of you that I am very much thinking of getting into diving.
I would have to say that I wouldn’t want anyone to put them self at great risk to recover my body. I am passed and what’s left is an empty shell no reason for someone to be at great risk to recover an empty vessel
I didn't notice that, but you're right it seems like they tried pushing it to far. Unfortunately when you push something to it's limit you no longer have a plan B.
Being very familiar with Dahab’s blue hole where I worked for 5 consecutive summers, I can tell you that 89% of the deceased divers « only had one tank », some didn’t even die because they got too deep or tried to reach and cross the arch, but once you die and sink, your lead belt prevents your body to float up once it starts decomposing.
They probably were so narced that they didn’t even realize what was happening. Doesn’t even look like he was on nitrox too or any other special mixture.
@@yourgrandmasalzheimerpills1143 You wouldn't use Nitrox for deep dives anyway. Nitrox reduces your max depth in exchange for longer NDL. That said, from just the old corroded tank you can't tell which gas they used. Putting Nitrox stickers on tanks isn't that common a thing and they don't last decades in salt water. Since the bodies have been there for many decades we can be sure they had normal air though.
@@Yggdrasil42 oh ya most definitely I mean you can get away with eanx levels below 30% for maxing depth out but who would use that on a technical dive lol. I’ve seen open water divers mix for 28% overseas In order to reach 140ft but with a bottom time less than 5 minutes 😂
I've got thalassaphobia, and I'm here to learn the level of courage that other people have that I'll never comprehend. Y'all are braver than the credit you're given. God bless you all. 🙏🏾💯
@@ScottyIsHim maybe more crazy than brave…
Swimming in the pool and doing a scuba diving course really helped my phobia
I'm with you but you have to remember, these divers don't have that fear so the "bravery" you imagine having to have to do this with thalassophobia isn't A factor for them.
Bravery involved in rescue missions sure but goofing off in the ocean doesn't require bravery or courage.
I was a paramedic in a major city for 18 years. I also have no intetest in gore or death. Though I am rope rescue certified and have repelled from the 40th floor to the ground and been in burning ships and buildings nothing looks scarier to me than cave diving. Watching your vids is like a roller coaster to me. I enjoy the educated and personal commentary. Great channel.
I hope this isn't weird but thank you for your service. (I believe those kinds of thank you's aren't only required for war veterans) You help people in a big way and I just want you to know it's greatly appreciated.
@@pigtailsandteddybears thank you.
If an 18 year paramedic says screw cave diving then hey, Screw it🤷🏽♂️
@@RocknRobby my main problem is there is so little room for error....
I dove the Dahab Blue hole as a sports diver during the second Gulf war. I was backpacking around to different sites. There was virtually no one there but I did meet a German guy to dive with. We camped on the Camel Dive Club grounds though we didnt dive with them (they werent diving). We "trained" for the Blue hole - dove a couple of other deep dives to get to know the area and each other. We made a pact - during the dive if either of us felt we wanted to surface, no discussion, we would surface. We took a local taxi to the hole with our gear, hopped in, descended and looked for the swim thru which I believe is at around 57 meters. We got to 54 meters (1 tank - the deepest Ive ever been) and couldn't see any sign of the swim thru. We looked at our air and each other and said F!!!! this. We went up, made a couple of stops on the way and dove over the lip into the blue. We dove the wall until it was time to surface. To dive the Dahab Blue Hole you gotta 1) watch your guages 2) know your limits 3) be disciplined. As gr8 as it would have been to go thru swim thru in the end it wasn't worth the risk. In many ways Im glad we didnt see the swim thru - it might have proven a bit too tempting. It was a beautiful dive nonetheless.
You made a bad call to go that deep on one tank (I'm guessing also you dived on air which is also a problem at that depth), but you made absolutely the right call to turn around. Unsure what level of training you have but I strongly recommend that you don't dive that deep on air or without the right training. If you want to dive that deep or gain the skills to keep you safe there are plenty of good instructors in NZ. I personally know someone who thought that they could handle deep dives on air / or claim to not suffer from narcosis, unfortunately that person is no longer with us. Take care and dive safe.
@@theownerofthechannel Yeah we dove with air on one tank. For practice we did another dive nearby on another day called the Canyon (see Canyon Dahab on TH-cam). On that one we dropped to 30M between rocks (the Canyon) and swam down it (it was covered..like a big tunnel). The dive was to dive maybe 50m laterally while continuing down to an exit at 50M. When we popped out at 50m my dive mate started to giggle uncontrollably. It was pretty weird but we surfaced without incident. Thinking back my buddy was definitely narked to some small extent. This emboldened us for the Blue Hole nonetheless. Yeah, I know theres instruction etc .. but tbh I dont have a burning desire to go that deep again. For me its a creepy feeling and one mistake (or Egyptian rented equipment failure) and you are in a world of hurt. (no disrespect to Egyptians). Definitely - dive safe.
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I agree with Gus, I would want to be recovered so that I don’t turn someone away from diving forever. That being said, if I end up in a spot that is too dangerous to get to, much like in bushman’s hole, leave me to the watery depths. I don’t want anyone to risk their life to recover me at that point, I would already be gone, and nothing is going to change that.
There’s grave stones at the entrance to the dive site and people still dive there so it doesn’t put people off
If anything, I think it serves as a reminder that you’re not immortal and to take care, for me at least.
I think that the bodies remain at the request of the family, it was where he was most happiest.
Man you are such a good person aren't ya 🤡
@@elmo319 it’s all depending on the family air love ones wishes
@@elmo319 there is a difference between seeing a gravestone and an actually dead person…
I agree with Gus too, I'd not want someone to risk their life to get my body out.
My father works part-time as a body searcher and dives for bodies of drowned people. And from the storys he told me, Families are always relieved when the bodys are recovered so they can see them for the last time and so that they can say goodbye one last time.
One of the saddest, most paradox thing about the blue hole is that so many divers died when they run out of air, while one amazing freediver (William Trubridge) swam through the arch on a single breath without even fins. My mind struggles to bring these two facts together.
Yeah thats wild. That dude can hold his breath for 8 minutes.
@@8JFJK8 Good heavens! That doesn’t seem human!
Built different
He was able to free dive it because he wasn’t breathing, he wasn’t at risk of being narc’d because the concentration of gas in his lungs remains the same. Without the high pressure air coming into his lungs from a scuba apparatus, nitrogen concentration is too low to affect a free diver like it would a scuba diver.
Genetic superiority and heavy training.
I don’t believe rescuers should “risk” their lives in order to remove a dead body. If the body can be safely and orderly removed, by all means remove it.
There is always a risk. No matter what. I think it just comes down to the individual rescuer's skill level and risk assessment. Hard to say.
Not as simple as it sounds. The same reasons why all those dead bodies on Mount Everest (or on the way to the top) are not removed.
Not just a risk to yourself, but what happens if body will fall apart along the way, break, and you will just leave pieces behind, or when putting a body inside the bag it will be broken apart completely (especially under water). And that on top of any legal reasons, dealing with any local laws, state, and family. Also there is no guarantee that a few years later one family member will not sue you, because they have changed their mind about recovery. You never know at the end...
So at the end... it is not up to you. It is up to the family members (or even state itself in some cases) to start those questions and take it from there.
Otherwise it is just internet speculations, of why, why not, it looks easy, I would go for it, and other crap like that.
Yeah, plus it makes a super cool touristic attraction.
@@tannhauser5399 The family can't sue anyone because someone decided to climb a mountain and freeze to death.
It's really not up to the family. It's up to the sherpas who are risking their lives to recover the body. If they think it's not safe, your family members body isn't being recovered...PERIOD. Try to sue all you want, you won't get far.
Local and state law has literally nothing to do with Mt Everest.....The only laws applicable are Nepalese laws as that's where the mountain is located.
I know I’ve heard too many stories of divers needlessly dying to retrieve a body. It’s so kind to do for the family but not worth losing another life.
I would only want someone to recover me if their life was not in danger. This is a devastating way to go , can’t imagine what they were feeling or thinking horrific way to go. My thoughts with the family members of those they lost.
Well you wouldn't want anything because you'd be dead.
I’m not a diver but I feel the same. If I died in any really dangerous area, the last thing I would want is for someone to risk their life to retrieve a body I wasn’t using anymore anyway.
The dead body's are good because everyone who does a risky sport must accept the fact that could be them and fear prevents from going further ur limits if ur smart. You must accept u have 1 life and save it or accept the risks of dieng
The eerie part when seeing a body doing something like this is knowing that you are that person, everybody that does it thinks they’re the best, everybody thinks that it’s not going to be them but none of that matters, it happens and it could just as easily be you.
It’s like a window into an alternate universe, a life cut short, destine to rest there for eternity, as you just pass by and see what could have been.
I'm a military diver and have worked with rescue divers and one of the reasons that they will leave a body is that the amount of decay requires very special care to prevent the body from breaking down into very small pieces and is not as simple to do as you would think...
not sure if im allowed to say this but thank you for your service for whatever you do im not sure if im allowed to say that but you said you were "military diver" so i always thank the military people for there bravery hope that is okay.
Uh, why would you ever *not* be able to thank someone, for any reason? Lol?🤔
@@angelicadonelan9119 🤦♂️ being in the military is a job,not an elevation to sainthood,that extremely tired “thank you for your service clichè is ridiculous. The vast majority of people in western armed forces never go near an active front line. Shall we go through the statistics..? They are readily available with just a quick google..
@@markhepworth7822😂
@@markhepworth7822 calm your tits young man.
As a diver I think these types of videos are important to show the realities of diving and why exactly a dive can be so dangerous and the possible death. Sometimes people have to see the graphic videos to really truly realize this isn’t a walk in the park.
If you need a graphic proof for that youre not old enough to dive.
I dont need graphic stuff to know that a knife can hurt me too.
its a walk in the park, no big deal anyone can dive
Love for car wrecks not to be blurred out to demonstrate reality 😮, damn the offended!
I’m not into gore or watching other people get hurt or anything but these videos are necessary. No matter what your sport/ hobby you need to know the risks.
I love to swimming.
Never gone an a deep dive... Would've love to be... one day...
But still... I wouldn't do any daredevil dive... Because I don't think any worth seeing in ocean that actually worth dying for. I mean, the water is dark, cloudy... not exactly a sight to be hold.
If I am going to die... I want to it be as close to most beautiful place in world as possible... Like some lakes in Nevada.
Man... I would die peacefully.
this is far from gore
@@SandyRavage410 obviously. I was replying to his comment.
I got a cool link lmk
@@louierodriquez3070 chill with that edgy teenager bs
Brother in law was a Navy Diver in the mid 2000s to 2011.
After the Earthquake/Tsunami of 27th February 2010 he was called for recovery mission in the souther part of the country where the tsunamis hit hard.
Years later on a camping trip while we were drunk he told me the stories of what he seen down there and the nightmares.
Completely agree with Gus about the comments. A human life lost is a human life lost period. My heart goes out to the family members of these fallen people. Stay safe everyone.
we only have one life in this world.
Just think of those 10 people in Buffalo, who just went to the grocery store, and never came home!! Can't imagine the dangers of diving, what you might see down there
@@applejack2911 That was fake, but don't let it worry you.
@@mrnobody4237 what was fake? You lost me there in the cave
@@applejack2911 The 10 people not getting shot in Buffalo was fake.
My best fiend started commercial diving 2 years ago. He welds the inside of water tanks and other industrial dive jobs that I'm not educated on. We're super close, like known each other since we were 4, so since I found your channel it's given me a much needed insight on what he does and how incredibly dangerous it can be. In a sense it's made us closer because before he goes out on a big project for a few months we really make the most out of our time before he leaves. He loves what he does, but I would be lying if I didn't say I wish he had another job 😂 I have so much respect divers, and this channel really shines a light on some of the scary realities of diving. What a challenging job and or hobby.
💖✌🏻😥🙏
Your best fiend huh? Sounds fishy.
@@chrisj.5839 I could care less how fishy you think it is. Just wanted to share my story with these guys because I've learned a ton through their videos. Very strange thing to lie about too. But take it however you want dude, good day.
@@kennanblake1562 Ignore the douchebag, that was beautiful to share :)
I lost my best friend recently and all I can say is hold to him as hard as you can let em know you love em 10x more than before, I’m glad you found out how dangerous his job is and intentionally spend more time with him I pray he is safe on all his trips and returns home to you and the fam 🙏🏾❤️
While exploring bunker-caves on Iwo Iwo Jima it was common to find clusters of skeletons where soldiers had taken their own lives with ceramic grenades. In reverence to that I never got used to it. We were required to report findings to the Japanese government so when they came out each year for a ceremony, those men would be on the roster. Most finds were left "as is" kind of like the US battle ship Arizona.
Sounds harrowing. God bless. 🇺🇸
That is interesting
Your phrase, cluster of skeletons, gave me the creeps, lol.
Wow
Disgusting that we gave those bastards Iwo back.
Hi Guys just watched the video on the boat that sank and did so in half an hour, in the Philippines. I don't know any of the people on the ferry I was in tears, especially the finding of the child. Thank you for keeping it real but keeping it respectful for the victims and the families. May your Gods keep you safe.
Your commentary is very respectful and humble. I don't do any swimming let alone diving, I'm terrified of depths, but still found this video and will watch some others from you. Thank you for posting this. Stay safe.
Man, my anxiety kicked in just watching that video. Absolutely NO WAY I could be a diver, much less a cave diver, but I love these videos.
How can you love seeing dead bodies, omg.
You can be a diver of shallow waters it is also fun.
I'm right with u! It just looks so scary.😮
My professor had a near death experience while diving there. He quit diving in deep areas. These days he just swims with the fish in the coral reefs.
Diving the wreck of the Conrad of the Florida keys back in the 90s with a camera man filming our dive and tickling lobster out from under coral overhangs for his dinner. He had a camera with an adjustable screen he could point up while using the camera as a "scope" to look under the coral for lobsters. We got a copy of the dive from him and while watching it, we found a part where he was putting the camera under some coral, and you could see there was an opening back in the small coral cave where light was coming in from above and lit up the face of a free diver who had gone in probably after a lobster and got stuck. All you could see was his head from about the shoulders up, but he had on goggles and a gold chain around his neck and just stared back at the camera 20' below the surface. No chance anyone could have posed for that without a tank and survived and he was definitely not in our dive group. the camera man didn't even notice him while looking down at the viewfinder for the lobsters and was as surprised as we were when we let him know. We think he must have gone out to the reef on a small boat or board to catch lobster that drifted off after he never came back up. No way to even know where that coral was to go back for him but if you're ever diving the Conrad, maybe don't eat the lobster, their scavengers.
Nightmare
I hope you or the lobster guy at least reported it to the police. Might be a situation like this where he was left because it was too difficult to retrieve him or he could’ve been out solo and is considered missing.
no more scavengers for me 🤮
Ghost?
Father was a Navy Diver for 30 years.
I did my first dive age 9 on a home made rig. I’ve done well over 1000 dives by the time I was 26.
You could Never pay me enough to do cave diving! Any diving over 100 ft is all types of dangerous
We had friends bent into pretzels from doing experimental diving.
No thank you.
Dad was also a Navy Diver! 22 years. Hell of a career and some badass dudes
I was an EOD diver in the Navy…Good times
What do you mean bent into pretzels? The bends?
@@DelineatedMercy maybe stuck somewhere?
@@DelineatedMercy he’s talking about water pressure crushing their bodies.
RIP to all the divers that got trapped and passed away in the water my prayers go out to them all and their families.💐💐💐💐
Indeed. They are at peace now with God friend.
Sweet of you!
Amen! ❤ Peace and blessings be with them.
That's the fakest story I've ever heard.
Rip.
Back in the 90’s I watched a tv show about a group of divers who were going to dive into a newly discovered pothole. It was a small pool on top but hugely deep. On the way they said there were a lot of potholes in the area and a pair of American divers had gone missing in the area. It was an incredible watch. It was well filmed and you could feel the tightness. The pothole had a tunnel at the bottom. The diver with the camera was pushing along this passage then all of a sudden there was a body! The camera went all over the place with equipment flying around. The breathing went rapid too. It was horrible. Then the diver got himself under control and slowly got himself out. He couldn’t go up straight away so had to wait near the bottom with someone so they were pretty deep.
In light of what you are discussing I think this is another consideration about seeing a body - panic! It was gripping to watch. Totally unexpected.
Listening to how difficult it is to remove a body where they actually can get dismembered my answer to Gus is leave me there if it’s not going to panic people or prevent diving (as in the case of the Edmund Fitzgerald). At least move me or cover me if I’m in an undignified position. I would like to be acknowledged and named. People could be acknowledged with a ribbon with writing on it floating about, or cairn if you can’t reach the body - just some acknowledgment would be better than a body just lying there stuck.
I really appreciate this comment.
I really like this comment. The idea of a cairn is lovely
Rescue 911 with William Shatner had an episode like what you described. It’s on TH-cam.
Thank you for being respectful and for the care and understanding you've shown to these families of lost loved ones
Most of the people who are dead only had one tank. I think it is obvious they dove too deep for the oxygen supply they had. I wonder is there a hyperbaric chamber nearby, so if you accidentally go too deep and have to surface without adequate stops? It seems this would be a good place for such a facility.
Me and my 2 friends were once diving, everything was going good until one off my friend got a panic attack under 40 feets below the sea. She was so scared that she literally ripped off her regulator, luckly my other friend removed the weights and we somehow swim up . Man, it was one of a horrible experience. Btw sorry for my bad english guys.
your english not bad, that does sound like a close call
Apologies not accepted please work on your grammar before you post...
@@fppf5248 really??
@@fppf5248 why do you care so much smh
@@Vivek-zy1ux I didn't read anything wrong in your English, it's great. Don't listen to juvenile individuals. I can't speak another language whatsoever, so those who do are amazing 👍
Egyptian recreational diver here 👋. The Blue Hole is amazing to dive. Am not into deep diving, so we usually stay above 30 meters and we don’t go inside caves or caverns. All the instructors I talked to said that the main issue with the Blue Hole is people not knowing their limits and when to stop. Technical divers who push their luck and even recreational ones who try to do deep diving on one tank. There is a plaque, an homage to these poor lost souls, at the very edge of the hole and it’s heartbreaking and eerie at the same time. There are myths about “the call of the hole” and how it can pull you under. It’s mesmerizing to be honest going into the hole, all this blue nothingness around you. Some divers actually cry. Personally, the first time I went in, I was in awe. I couldn’t stop looking into the vast blue. Just be safe, know your limit and follow safety protocols. Years ago, I asked an instructor about retrieving the bodies, he said some are bodies are jammed in, others are too deep while the rest have been dead for so long, it would be hard to get the proper governmental permits to do it. I don’t know how accurate this is, but will double check with a friend of mine who does this for a living in Dahab. Dive safely everyone.
Did you double check yet
Helloooo did you double check?
@@sitsia3808 the top comment of this video explains it.
the top comment of this video explains it.@@chelseamunroe
Hi did you double check yet??
When i was going to college someone in one of my classes, their father, died whole diving.
When the family was asked if they wanted the body recovered for funeral purposes, the family denied the request. Sometimes the family chooses to not have the bodies recovered.
In the situation im talking of, the father LOVED diving. He adored it and his family all knew it was his passion. They felt that to recover his body was an insult. He died doing what he loved, and in a way they felt leaving his body was sacred in some way. Basically it was his final resting place and they didnt want to disturb that. And so what they did was held a funeral, on nearby cliffs overlooking his final rest.
They don't leave the bodies because they dont care. They leave SPIRITS at rest, because they care alot. Some families also hope these bodies will serve as a warning to other divers as well. The body is like a bill board and it reads "are you absolutely sure your ready for this? Because this is a possible outcome"
Many people think they are prepared and thats exactly how these people passed. Its a raw and real reminder of the dangers to come. A warning to divers to double, triple, quadruple check before risking it all.
These bodies are the families way of protecting others from the same fate.
These people did not die in vain. Even now their message can be heard. "The deep is dangerous, even deadly. Be ready. Be prepared"
Bless these souls. Thank you for keeping others safe. May you rest peacefully in the beautiful blue. May your families live well. ❤
I did my year 12 research project on Nitrogen Narcosis. And one of my primary evidence sources was footage of a man who just went straight down and didn't realise how deep he was till he hit the bottom. His body was recovered, but clearly not all of them are. Deep diving is something else, man.
Was it Yuri's case?
They covered that video on this channel actually
This channel and Mr Ballen are my favorites and he showed video of that one as well
@@Satoshi_Yume Actually yeah it was. Cool
What is Nitrogen Narcosis?
Not many, if any, sites will show raw footage. I'm so grateful you do because it emphasizes how dangerous diving can be. I'm sure you've saved lives by deterring people from making unsafe decisions, you're just unaware of them.
I dont dive and probably couldn’t because of my fear of open water, but this should be taken as very educational and give those brave enough an idea of what the proper procedures are.
"Fear is a tool"
@@TheCzx yea thats why you catch my ass doing this haha
I’m not afraid of open water but I won’t scuba dive simply because I don’t have the patience to avoid the bends.
@@Arak_Drakoniz what bend?
I think that you will be shocked at how your fear goes away being one with the ocean. Don’t dive deep just where all the critters are living and you will be fine.
Did Annapurna & Everest on ‘05.
There had been an avalanche 2 days before we arrived & the chopper went out for the first 3 night of walking up. 7 souls were lost - 4 Sherpas & 3 climbers. We were told that due to costs, the chopper stops after 5 days unless someone else pays, meaning unless they are found quickly, then it would be the following Spring until there would be another opportunity to look for them.
From Wikipedia on the death of Diogenes: "When asked how he wished to be buried, he left instructions to be thrown outside the city wall so wild animals could feast on his body. When asked if he minded this, he said, 'Not at all, as long as you provide me with a stick to chase the creatures away!' When asked how he could use the stick since he would lack awareness, he replied: 'If I lack awareness, then why should I care what happens to me when I am dead?' To the end, Diogenes made fun of people's excessive concern with the 'proper' treatment of the dead."
Humans are the only species who horde their dead.
@@roebbiej this is factually untrue, but yes the lengths we go to is silly at times
@@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu horde, not mourn. Other animals mourn, but never bury. Right?
@@roebbiej Elephants have buried their "owners" before
@@roebbiej many species of ants will have a designated place where they put ants that have died with some species even going as far as burying them. some termites have also been seen to bury their dead
Hi, I was a Diving Instructor and multiple Dive Centres Owner for many years with more than 25000 dives under my belt. In my opinion it does not make sense to risk a life to recover a dead boby.
On another note - an ex commercial diver buddy of mine used to say " There are old divers and bold divers...but no old bold divers"
Dive safe, you only have one life.
Mick
I completely agree with you. Kind of like when Shaw died. He was trying to recover another divers remains. Although I think he practiced very unsafe diving, it's sad it happened.
Climbers have died trying to recover bodies from Mount Everest bodies. Not worth the risk. Usually the bodies are just pushed off a cliff, so they’re no longer visible
This place is the Mount Everest of dive locations it would seem. Still bodies atop Mount Everest til this day, but they have recovered a lot of the ones that were notoriously seen during treks to the summit each year. Very tragic, and very surreal. It's definitely a visual warning for anyone as they attempt their own endeavor to take heed and take every precaution. The most similar concept between these places being, if it doesn't fit the steps and procedure , don't attempt beyond those guidelines to keep yourself alive. One step out of the routine, could land you in a deadly position.
Everest bodies are rarely recovered, because the climbers don’t have enough oxygen to carry the body’s weight. Instead the bodies are just pushed off a cliff, so they’re no longer visible
@@electrictroy2010 Vortex and Morrison in Florida panhandle just as bad on my checkout day they lost 3 that was long ago and many more have died there Florida is full of caves and caverns
@@electrictroy2010 why can't they retrieve the body bring them to the closest erea where helicopters can land to collect them
@@jacqqulen9106 Because it's exhausting! Try running on a tread mill for 10 minutes breathing from a straw. High altitude climbers barely have strength enough to descent on their own, let alone tending to a 100kg block of ice.
@@jacqqulen9106 There's 1/3rd of the oxygen available at sea level. Even for Sherpas that are genetically predisposed to that it must be exhausting, not to mention picking up the bodies from cliffs that go down for hundreds of meters
Personally I wouldn't want nobody to risk their life on trying to get me because I was dumb enough to risk my own
As always, Good job on the way you guys handled this video. As a retired Rescue/Recovery diver, here in the upstate of SC. I have always looked at the victim, as the vessel that the person was in and not try to look at it as a person. I think this is my way of dealing with the incident and mission at hand. I always feel more for the family than the victim. As far as for myself, I believe the same thing. I'm gone, "my soul has left the building", the body was just the vessel that my soul was in. I'm with both of you guys when it comes to recovery, if its in a place that will not put anyone else at risk, get it, if its not leave it there. At least I died doing what I love. Keep up the GREAT work and have a great weekend.
I was diving in the Coral Sea and there was a guy who went with one of the dive masters and dived to 60m on one tank each. The divemaster was playing a macho game and ran out of air on the slow ascent, luckily the other guy was part amphibian and had enough left to get them to the surface. At the surface the divemaster had to make up a story as to why he had no air...this was back in '93... people do crazy stuff.
Maybe it’s just me but if I did end up dying in a cave diving accident, I’d probably not want anyone to risk their own lives just to bring my body back. Let the fish and the other sea animals do their thing.
Good point!
Agreed
Same here. Doesn't matter to me where my body decomposes, I won't be in a fit state to notice lol. And people have died recovering bodies.
No? The sea creatures can’t eat through your wet suit and equipment. You would just pollute the ocean, and if you are in a small space, like in a cave, your body decomposing would have released toxic chemicals in the area, and it would be hazardous to be there.
@@zoroverse8358 You couldn't be more wrong. Your wetsuit isn't a suit of armour. All sorts of creatures could eat your hands and head and then work their way in to your body. Plus some could rip through the wetsuit. Your body decomposing wouldn't release toxic chemicals. It would be just like any other thing decomposing in the sea. Broken down in to the smallest particles and eaten by everything even down to plankton and bacteria. Releasing only salts and minerals to the ocean in the process.
Lovely discussion about a difficult topic.
I suspect that these bodies have been down there a long time. Decomposition would be well advanced, and bringing the body up would naturally result in basically a dive suit full of bones and sludge, deeply unpleasant for everyone involved - including family members - and potentially hazardous.
Much safer, kinder and more respectful to leave them in a place they obviously loved.
Divers have my respect. The more I learn about it, the more insanely complex and risky it seems to be. Outstandingly beautiful down there through…
Just my opinions, obviously. I’m not a diver and never will be now, but like climbing, mountaineering and other risky activities people enjoy in the natural world, I’m grateful for the chance to see into another world through someone else’s eyes.
A friend of mine was a member of a dive club on Mauritius. He was sent out in a group to find a recover a diver lost the previous day. The diver was a flight attendant who was on a Dive Experience (I.e., untrained diver) who got herself into a recess when she saw a shark or other big fish. They found her in that recess with her eyes very wide (panic induced?) and zero air.
Any insurance money? The business owner should responsiblr
horrible
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In recess? Never heard that diving term before
@@TrustMeIKnowThings In a recess meaning like a hole or an opening or something
I knew a cave diver through a sister. He taught diving classes at FSU back in 1990-1992. He was a professional was loved diving in caves around north Florida. The last I heard of this diver was that he had suddenly died in some freak accident perhaps a cave collapse or some rapid change in water level or current. I was shocked. He was a cordial man. We would wave to one another as I passed by going to class and he was geared up along with his students to practice at the outdoor FSU pool.
Do you know if he ever dove the cave in Wakulla Springs? It’s close to Tallahassee and I think it’s pretty popular with cave divers. It’s a really cool place.
@@firstnamekaty8830 Yes he did. He gathered water samples deep inside the cave network there for my sisters university work in ‘87-‘89
I probably could watch these things all day, but the fact is these poor souls were someone's loved one. It also serves as a reminder of the very real dangers of diving and how easily things can go very wrong. Very good commentary btw.
I see this as both a gruesome yet harrowing reminder that diving is dangerous, these people were as prepared as they could possibly be and still lost their lives. You always need to respect that these souls we're the best in their craft at the time, but sometimes even that isn't enough. I loved the video and I loved the respect that was shown throughout to both these diver's and their craft as a whole.
Most great content creators, in my opinion, cover a wide range of emotions. It makes the content more real and personal at least to me. So yeah I love you two goofing off but I also love when you cover serious things like this. It really shows how important diving is to you both.
Love how you explained not wanting negative comments. I mean that. You handled it very well, and respectfully. Awesome video man. Thanks!
That Ed sounds like a tremendous person. Knowing everything that he's done. So much respect for him.
Ed Sorenson. Badass.
Being stuck and knowing you are running out of air and are going to die, and no one is coming or will know you died here, must have been terrifying :(
I think they flooded the compartments of the Yamato ship and sealed the hatches to keep it from sinking. Must have sucked knowing you were doomed 100% to drown and there was 100% nothing you could do about it. Hundreds or thousands of sailors died because of that. It happens.
First year of high school, I learned that a student whom I had known about ever since middle school drowned during a dive session with his adult cousins. His entire family used to dive for years and years and were all properly trained. He was 15. He did not dive that deep, but it still happened. We were all in pure shock.
Skip to @3:54 if you don't want to hear the long intro.
You both handled this topic with care and respect. That’s why I really like your posts, you both show heart and a balanced view. I appreciate your bringing awareness to this. Thanks guys. I would want to be recovered if possible for family sake unless it was an unreasonable risk to others.
My dad was a diver for years, but was always too afraid to cave dive. I do believe the bodies were left there requested by the families. These men died doing what they love the most and leaving their bodies there seems to be incredibly respectful. This was extremely heartbreaking to watch. May they rest in peace! 💔🙏
You guys gained a subscriber with this video. I lost two family members to an ocean dive in 2005. Thank you for being so especially respectful of the remains being viewed and discussed. You are excellent YTbers!
Also, Edd Sorensen is an ACTUAL LITERAL super hero. He is a god!
La ilahe illallah.
Every time I see cave divers or hear to cave diving stories, I gain a whole new respect for the profession and hobby, and a whole new view on being able to breath so freely.
I thank you who can recover the bodies of those who unfortunately succumbed to the deep waters.
There’s actually about four videos in this series. As for the shape of the bodies: we have to remember that they’ve been down there for some time and are now skeletons. So over time and movement of the water they’ve probably shifted from their original positions. They may have been stuck or wedged in when they first passed but now that it’s only skeletal remains there’d be plenty of room for the body to move about freely. Plus, the location of the bodies may not even be where they originally passed. Time and water movement may have moved them and now they’ve settled into crevasses or caught up in ropes etc. And as for leaving the bodies where they are that may simply be out of necessity. It is Egypt. And their facilities are not what we’re used to. And cremation is forbidden. So to bring these people up and get them home again without cremation would probably be a really expensive endeavour. So as much as a family may want to bring them home it may not be financially practical for them all to do so. And that might be a reason to leave them where they are.
There's also the fact they've been down there since the 90s and have decomposed beyond recognition. To bring them back intact would be basically impossible, and it's probably less traumatising to the families to leave them as intact as possible down there. The more recent deaths have had removals due to advances in technology.
@@eliastalks7411 That’s true, but the same could be said for bodies found on land that have been missing for decades. Families are generally happy to get anything back to bury (the events of 911 are a perfect example of this) to have the finality of a service. I also find that when a group of people die together and/or at the same time a lot of families want them to remain together unless all are able to be recovered.
The ocean fascinates me and intrigues me, I love seeing the images, but I also fear it greatly. My grandma used to say "the sea can always betray you", and I think of that any time I simply go to the beach. I'll never dive, but I respect the people who do and I'm thankful these films exist. It is heartbreaking to see dead divers still there though.
My grandpa was a navy diver right after WWII. We have an old b&w photo of him in the iron helmet dive suite labeled number 2. This was after he served on the Washington. He had a few insane stories
Insane story's? Please could I have 1 👍
Please tell us :)
It's very interesting to hear why the bodies might be left there. I watched this video mainly because I've been curious about that and about why the blue hole is dangerous in the first place. Personally, I don't like the water and I hate being underground, so something strange would need to happen just to get me in a cave, but I'd probably agree that I wouldn't want my body retrieved if doing so risked anyone's life. This was a very interesting video overall.
There's another comment up there explaining that these people died during the '90 and they were found like two decades later and moving them would just disperse the bodies, so the families agreed to keep them out there
You guys are amazing ❤️
So respectful.
I am not a diver... I am actually afraid of deep water lol but I have always been fascinated with our underwater world.
While social media has not been the best thing for society... I have to say without it I would never have had the access to watch channels like yours & learn so much about diving and underwater exploration.
So thank you both for being such wonderful teachers & guides.
May God bless & protect you both all the days of your life ❤️
I was in the Sinai in 1990, working in the MFO. Three American Army Engineers dived the Blue Hole the year before. They planned to dive and pass through the cavern and return to the surface on the outside of the cliff face. At the cavern two of the divers indicated that they wanted to go to the bottom, as the visibility is insane, and the bottom looks like its "just there". He refused. He watched them descend and half way to the bottom they starfished, having been killed by oxygen toxicity. The Blue Hole has been officially Offlimits to any MFO military since then.
@@Motumatai3 did they die due to not having the correct gas mix for that depth?
@@h.c5750 They were just on air, hence the issue of O2 poisoning
I am a skydiver, in our sport the bodies are easy to get. The trouble we have is we need the "authorities" to just let other skydivers figure out what went wrong so we can get a decent incident report out that other skydivers can learn from. It is almost never a crime when a fatality occurs, but there are also almost always reasons and lessons to be learned.
"We know how he died! Get the body off the runway!" -famous quote
(Authorities were zealously investigating and causing financial ruin at a large boogie for no good reason)
What's left of them if they hit from free fall
@@michaelvoorhees5978 😆 you think the body explodes or what?
@@Enjoyer00 not explodes not kinda splatters lol like bust open maybe. I'm a truck driver and I've seen 2 bodies that were hit by a car at high speed and they were a pile of meat basically. Couldn't even really tell if they were a deer or human . Seems like it may be similar results.
@@michaelvoorhees5978 ohh ok I kinda see what you mean, I saw pictures of car accident aftermaths and indeed it's unrecognizable
@@Enjoyer00 seems it would be worse from a free fall. Isn't that about 120mph?
This is so heartbreaking, I can’t imagine the horror this person went through while he was drowning, my condolences to his family , and all the divers that have passed away in this place. Since this place is very well known to have drowned divers I wouldn’t be surprised that this was the wishes of this or some of the divers to just leave them there knowing that they might die doing something that they love.of course this is just my opinion, I have so much respect for this divers.
Its more, not only one.
Terrifyingly enough, they probably didn’t drown - they would have suffocated after running out of air 😣
It’s so scary bruh
@@jenna6421 Thing is, once you run out of air chances are you will try to breathe without the regulator by instinct.
They likely didn't drown, they would have died from CO2 poisoning. Thankfully at some point they would have gone unconscious, rendering their death painless.
Obligatory "not a cave diver", but I've had a few scary situations whilst surfing.
I would never want anybody risking their life to retrieve my body.
If possible, I'd love to be turned into compost used to grow a tree. However, being fish food sounds like an equally great time.
I like your spirit.
And atleast youll be a good warning sign to others that it isnt some game its Dangerous
My request is to be cremated, my ashes put in the bare earth, and a dogwood tree planted on top of what's left of me. You're the first person I heard about who has the same idea. Cool. p.s. Have you heard of the eco-friendly fungi mycelium caskets?
I agree. I’d love to be turned into a tree. Preferably a nut tree like a walnut so tens if not thousands of people can enjoy deez nuts for 100+ years.
@@saradejesus9869 I've heard of them, and I think they're fantastic.
I honestly don't mind what tree it is (or what fish eats me). However, if I had to choose, it would be a Frangipani.
I was diving in Aruba in 1987 and I was an experienced diver and I went on a dive there and the instructor took 5 novice divers who had just been trained in a pool into a German wreck sunk there. I was stunned and told him I was going back to the dive boat which I did alone. That is risky for young inexperienced divers.
I’ll never go diving for this reason. The scariest thing for me is to suffocate, I just can’t imagine. Rest In Peace to these divers. Thank you for a respectful reaction video
I agree. Drowning would actually be quicker than suffocating 😖
Ehh stick with open water scuba and always have a partner who understands your limitations and you theirs. It’s a lot of fun, if you can keep an eye on time down, tank level, and not be a hot shot.
@@Aerogamer158 can you explain further on open water diving? I’d that like diving in a shallow ocean if there’s any ? I’m new to scuba diving . Looking to sign up soon
I will never understand extreme thrills like cave diving or mt climbing. When you are out doing things for "fun" and along the way there are bodies to show you what happens when you fail! It just blows my mind
( I don't do either) but people will tell you it's all about the adrenaline rush.
White people...
Mountain climbing seems much safer and you at least get some beautiful views when compared to cave diving where you’re just in darkness with a small cone of light illuminating rocks. I max out at day climbs though. I would not want to climb Everest or some shit.
It is actually comparable to drinking coke, it tastes good, activates dopamine in our brains, it also risks us with diabetes and cancers. To them, that fun is just for babies, so they risk their lives for those achievements, because just like coke, it makes them happier. To each it's own. A matter of perspective. 🙂
Adrenaline is a hell of a drug, once it hits you, you can never get enough of it.
Awesome line I heard here. "They're super experienced at never having a problem". So true in so many instances, not just diving.
But whats scary is the two guys boasting how much they know. So...is that much different? (I dont know the guys, they seem cool and love their passion for their hobby)
Crazy. I am certified diver and slowly getting on my way to get into skydiving. Two drastically different sports, but involve a level of respect and appreciation for the safety material of both. Taking care of gear, taking care of yourself, taking every precaution you could make, staying within your capabilities and being smart. There’s so much that comes with these risky activities, I love it and I don’t fear it but I respect it. Thanks for the vid, guys.
Green Boots is no longer there. They pushed it over the edge. Also getting a body down from the top of Everest is incredibly hard because it weighs twice as much when frozen. Getting a body down from K2 is impossible. The body might as well be on the moon
I imagine someday that technology will reach the point (mech/environmental suits or drones) that we can recover these bodies. Except, it will be more like an archeological dig than a rescue/recovery.
Why did they push it over the edge? Out of respect for green boots and his family?
@S M oh fuck off. Stop trying to make it about yourself. He meant nothing by it.
I've never dived before but your videos have me interested in learning the sport at some point. I am a rockclimber though and typically deaths only occur if someone (just like in diving) starts trying things outside their domain of skill/knowledge. With rockclimbing the a bodies will pretty much always land in an accessible area, unless caught on a ledge. I have never run into remains during my decades of climbing though.
Rest in Peace to all those divers and thoughts are with their families and friends. They died in persuit of something that meant so much to them! 🙏🏼
You were pondering about the unnatural angle of the knee and the tank being in a strange position. We have to take into account that the wetsuit is filled with water and bones. All soft tissue is long gone. The suit will sag, it no longer fits the body. Marine life, currents and possibly some divers who might have tried to remove the body have caused the suit to flop into a strange position. The leg bones are likely disjointed and "float" free inside the suit, allowing the suit legs to wobble in any direction. The tank and harness have slipped off because the straps are loose after all the body bulk has disappeared.
I appreciate how you guys handle this with so much respect. I'm glad I stumbled upon your channel
I think I'm with Gus, if my body could safely be recovered then do it but if more lives get placed it risk trying then leave it.
I do a lot of wildlife photography and while I lived in Florida my family expected me to die by animal attack. It was the accepted risk of getting into gator holes with some as big as 16 swimming around me. I got some great shots and almost attacked a few times. The standing request should I not come back was not come looking for me because I didn't want the gator killed or whatever killed me killed as is Florida law. I stepped into their environment and most of the places I went no other person had been deep into the swamps and forests off trails by miles. Finding me would be sheer luck anyway.
I've been treed by big feral hogs, tracked by a very large bear that when I showed the pics to the game warden later said was a old bear looking for a easy meal.
I've had a mountain lion sit above and behind me in the attack position that had I not felt something staring at me and turned to look would have taken me out in Oklahoma.
When we follow our passions and they come with life and death risks the subject of what if has to be considered. I have a woman who won't let me take those risks now along with kids and grandkids I'd like to watch grow up so that keeps me a little more safety oriented in my photography. Still take risks for the shot but not like I used to. But they all know if I see a chance for a amazing picture I'm going for it.
I don't think people who live rather safe and ordinary lives fully understand those who don't live that way. I watch these snowboarders leap off the side of cliffs and think their nuts and then remember they would say the same about me getting into a gator hole to photograph baby alligators knowing a very protective mother is in there somewhere, which has been the reason for every near death attack I've had.
One man's insane is another man's awesome.
“One man’s insane is another man’s awesome” I really like that haha
Glad you’re still alive.
That is an excellent analysis
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I love the movie quote, "people die at the fair" , to me it has come to represent the fact that we are soooo fragile, even though you might be doing something super fun and seemingly safe, the slightest distraction, the tiniest misstep could result in complete disaster, it does no good to live in fear, but it does alot of good to just be aware of the potential danger of anything you do. People die at the fair.
Love that quote too! I use it quite often !
My dad was a professional diver and he got stuck 63 times in these crevices. Thankfully he managed to get loose all 64 times and he still diving there. Also my friend's dad was diving in the blue hole and he saw a skeleton and he quit diving. Also my girlfriend's dad was diving one time and he lost a flipper to a hammerhead shark after he got stuck in a reef looking at some fish that looked like many nemos. Also my neighbors dad was also a diver and he gut stuck under a boat because he got caught on a large mass of barnacles but he's ok now.