Harvard & Stanford: Who REALLY Gets In
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2024
- Join Poets&Quants founder John A. Byrne and Fortuna CEO Matt Symonds for a deep-dive into the extensive research profiling the successful MBA applicants of these two highly selective B-schools.
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I love John's righteous indignation. Pretty refreshing.
I would love a refreshed version of this data
What would also be nice to do is to do the same LinkedIn research to identify the personal background of the admissions committee and see if there is a bias that reflects on the class composition.
Great research! Thank you for sharing!
My thought is that these schools consider consulting = vast problem solving experience.
We can argue whether junior staff at the top consulting firms really adds creative value but at least they are typically good at attributing success of the team as their own.
Nonetheless, the lesson here is to probably optimize your own career for the variety of challenging experiences that hopefully create business or a social impact regardless of your origin, employer or country of origin.
Very Informative Sir, Thank you for the discussion.👍
Thanks for the video, John.
Is there any way to do a cluster analysis to see what happens to a similar candidate group post graduation? Do former consultants get better ROI if they go to one school or the other?
Same, based on the origin, nationality, prior employer/industry?
Would be great to see “if-then choose this school” analysis.
Hello
It was great seeing your video. I had a profile evaluation request as i am planning to take an admit in the said schools.how should i contact you guys. Will be of great help
Curious if corporate contributions to the University itself make any difference.
Would it be safe to assume that HBS and Stanford are simply tailoring to the requirements from the Top employers that pay top post-graduation salaries?
Yes , for the business schools ranking you would be the WORST possible candidate if you previously were a top paid CEO and after the MBA program you decide to join some NGO on a social mission that pays you low dollar
It's very disheartening for an Indian without the elite IIT on their resume to see this level of concentration.
What I tend to notice is that you can make up for not making it to an IIT by getting admitted to a top US grad school for your non-MBA master's degree. Also, it doesn't necessarily have to be an IIT, NITs, and BITS tend to do the trick too and there have been times (rare yet happened ) where an Indian MBA grad gets their second MBA from HBS, Stanford, or Wharton. So don't completely give up on your dream :)
@@varunnair2663 yes u r right. Infact in a rough analysis of the weightage given to each factor for admission, your college accounts for only 6 percent or even lesser.
So make those 94% work for you. Infact your SOP should include how you dared to dream of imbibing on excellence in a society that attaches so much weightage to your college rather than your individuality. So never give up and all the best.
@@himanshitripathi495 I've seen your comments at quite a few US-MBA-related (Indian) videos. It's nice to see that I'm not the only US-MBA fanatic here. Best of luck with your dreams and aspirations and I hope they come true!
@@varunnair2663 I've seen that too. But don't you think doing another Master's just for MBA is a wasted effort? Also, what I've observed is that M7 or T10 love brands in general, and they're not too much fan of techies, even if they're from a nice US based company. If somehow one can get sexy work ex with brands/startups/non-profits/finance then they def have a chance regardless of their college background but the issue is that is quite hard to get those roles. And companies often ask for IIT/nit/bits especially for finance roles like ER, IB, etc, and I've none.
Finance in general is hard for non-targets. That's for sure.
I think the "diversity" is mistakenly interpreted.
They want the top people with diversed background from each sector, not diversed level of quality. Therefore, they only recruit from the top colleges, etc.
I think HBS and GSB are still doing the right thing in recruiting talents for their class.
Thanks to ETS, I learn more in analyzing arguments
Are there the Class 2026 stats?
Who gets in? A large proportion of Indians (or indian origin), east asians (e.g. Singaporeans, HK etc) and also Jewish.
Those three groups (in no particular order), thats who.
Its probably more diverse now than way back in the day , but those 3 groups still dominate. The reason is not because they are smarter than the rest ( no..talent and intelligence is equally distributed worldwide). The reason is that those groups focus and place emphasis on educational and professional pursuits from a younger age..mostly driven by family - starts young and continues on even when they are adults in their own right.
Or it could be that Indians and Asians are a 2 billion+ sample size
Well keeping in mind that out of about 9k applicants to HBS, a minimum of 2-3k is indians but only about >40 get admitted every year, I wouldn't say they're the majority.
my dreem harvart University.
Quite a dream
36:53- um sorry, Mormons? Nah that doesn't pass my muster for intellectual vitality. Aie. Why not q-anon?