I test drove this one from REC as well and I think it's a solid gents offering. The tuned detent system worked well for me and I found the fit and finish to be quite good. I used it for all of my EDC needs for a week and it handled it all with no issues. I personally hated all the overbuilt folders that ZT built their reputation on.
My favorite ZT is the 0462. I don't usually prefer the Persian style knives, but it's a high quality piece that is fun to mess with. And the design of it has grown on me. I don't care for Speedsafe, but I'm open to almost any design shape these days. For the 0707, I'd prefer a traditional detent if it meant the blade dropped closed smoothly. Feel of the action rates highly on my scale.
Worth the $ will come down to the individual but I think the TDS will change the way some people feel about frame lock knives...myself included!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it JT!!
That's true. I've never had a big issue with framelocks, so I didnt see the TDS as a big deal. Thanks for your input buddy! Also, did that package make it to you yet?
I've had this about six months,I like it,it gets plenty of pocket time.I did have to adjust the clip to my liking,but I always do that,because I prefer no tension,(or grip)at all on my clips.It's very slicey,very good penitration,dood steel,snappy action,solid lockup,VERY light.That double dentent works pretty well,but you still have to be careful to not put to much pressure on the handle when you deploy,but it's not bad-Ive got two 0462s,one deploys great,no matter how you hold it,the other,you HAVE TO have your fingers on the clip,and totally of that locbar to deploy
Really wish zt would go back to the old big beefy folders. I mean this one is cool long lean and very light for the size but just not what I think of when I think of zt. Great review 👍
@@JTsKnifeLife They adjusted the detent ball and pocket, I believe. Prior deployment was stiff, possibly due to rough machining and non-rounding of edges. My Bareknuckle also has uneven blade grind and pocket clip alignment LOL. Aluminum handle feels amazing though
I was super hyped for this knife. Looked like a nice formal wear carry (I mean come on, 0707...double 0 seven). From the day I got it, one thing was for sure. I hate it. The clip is terrible. The tension can be adjusted, sure, but it's so small that getting it out of pocket is annoying. I get the TDS. With smaller frame locks, it's super easy to have your finger in a bad spot and cause an issue with deployment. This, however, isn't a smaller frame lock. It's thin, but it's long enough that the additional pressure would be away from the detent. Would it take some getting used to? Probably. But modern ZTs are known for having good actions, and the action on the 0707 barely raises to the level of bad. The 0707 was my introduction to buyer's remorse in the knife world. Live and learn.
Well I don't know about this one, you have 2 detents which is flat 2x friction when it comes to surface area. So it doesn't dropshut becase friction is force and that force needs to be twice as high and blade is much lighter then other ones in ZT range. So you might have 1/2 or 2/3 the blade weights and twice the force required to drop it down. Add to that some people don't enjoy blade being able to hammer down freely on their finger so it might be a good thing? for some. Biggest flaw of this knife, it's freakin' expensive. I watched a lot of knife reviews and having cuts or bandages on the thumb is somewhat common... doesn't take much to figure it out who likes to figit with drop shutting knives.
Zt has always fallen into a weird spot for me. Frame locks are my least favorite locks, and I feel like thats almost all they ever offer. On top of that, I've never cared for big heavy over built tank knives. Now that they have started moving away from the huge knives, I dont cared enough about "premium materials" to make the price jump from kershaw to ZT. In the rare cases I've really liked a design they have done, I can remember the model number long enough to bother looking it up lol
I like the tanks. I think the idea especially on a knife so slim being able to open even if finger is on the lockbar is a good idea. With those CF flaws and other items definitely wouldn't get that knife. Thanks for sharing .
Yeah...when I started collecting I bought a number of ZT's....still have them and love them! ...but there is not and has not been anything that has caught my eye for close to 2 years now.....during that time the knife world exploded and it seems that Zero Tolerance contracted...There are just soooooo many incredible knives out there and for me..ZT has just kind of dropped out. Not sure why...but it certainly seems to be deliberate...oh well...I am knife-happy without them! Maybe that will change someday.....😬
Not for me either. The only one I had an issue opening was the 0450 due to its size. The 0562 is still my favorite. Curious to see where they go, nothing of interest in a while.
If I've $250 I think the ZT I'll buy is the 0470 love Sinkevich design and love so much its little brother (the Kershaw Atmos) then... but I don't have even the half of this money XD Thanks for sharing, it's really a nice knife :)
It’s a great looking knife. I’m surprised the CF has issues. Having drop shut action is not always a sign of quality..The overbuilt ZT folders seemed nice but too heavy to carry and cut like an ax. I only kept the 0393, 0801Ti, 0640..Those all carry OK but not great slicers. Probably should have kept the 0562 but I hate flippers, the less, the better. There’s a lot of competition now. My MD WE FF Crux, Buc, Dao and Kizer T1 are close to ZT quality and less money. But, too many titanium frame locks have poor lock geometry and not just ZT. I’m done with them.
This is the only knife I have ever sent back. I bought it right off the bat direct from kershaw or kai. For the money I expected so much more. It could have been the best knife in their line but it just didn’t cut it for me.
Just staying with ZT the 0562CF, 0606 and 0609 are all in that same price range and better knives, I think. A Spydiechef is about 10 bucks cheaper than this, so that's what I'd do.
well neither of these knives is even vaguely similar to this one. Most of them 2x the weight. 0562CF scratches at 3x the weight. It's apples to oranges when it comes to me. And materials prettymuch the same in ZT range
@@Cypeq So you're saying you prefer the 0707? As for my comparisons, yeah man, the 0707 is pretty unique in regards to it's weight. Hard to find something comparable in design for that price.
@@JTsKnifeLife personally yes, kind of? I'm actually looking for a knife in this category a slender 3.5-4 in blade. With your vast experience do you thin this one lives up to ZT name for build quality? (well ignoring imperfect CF on yours)
@@Cypeq Yeah, it lives up to their quality, but it's just a different style from traditional ZTs so it's hard to compare. But for the slimness and weight it is pretty sturdy once you get used to it.
It 's an issue with any frame lock knife if you are left handed. That detent is a great idea in my book. Drop shut is not a big issue in reality. I agree this knife is not on my list to buy.
I'm left handed and for the most part, my hand just naturally learns how to hold a knife in order to deploy it. I've rarely had any issues. That said, it's a smart idea that I'm sure some people will really appreciate.
Surprised by the carbon fiber. For that money, it would have to look a lot better. Overall, nice looking besides the carbon fiber. There are so many companies competing in this range and this one with fit and finish does not compete. I don’t own a ZT but this does not make me real excited to get one.
Yeah, their pricing seems to have gone up, even on preexisting models. They make good products, some that I really like, but rarely are they a "must have" for me.
ZTs regression and abandonment of their brand identity is still mind blowing to me. This Tuned Detent seems every bit as desirable as SpeedSafe... I mean, they basically stole the technology that helps Emerson have that awesome Emerson action 🙄
@@JTsKnifeLife maybe, but I assume the ones that hate it own 5-10 of their knives... the ones that don't know any better likely came on board during the Mtech.. err.... I mean, 0223 days. IDK, I'm just sorry because they were my gateway and I really want to want a ZT again. Such is life.
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I test drove this one from REC as well and I think it's a solid gents offering. The tuned detent system worked well for me and I found the fit and finish to be quite good. I used it for all of my EDC needs for a week and it handled it all with no issues. I personally hated all the overbuilt folders that ZT built their reputation on.
Good to hear that perspective, thanks man.
My favorite ZT is the 0462. I don't usually prefer the Persian style knives, but it's a high quality piece that is fun to mess with. And the design of it has grown on me. I don't care for Speedsafe, but I'm open to almost any design shape these days. For the 0707, I'd prefer a traditional detent if it meant the blade dropped closed smoothly. Feel of the action rates highly on my scale.
Worth the $ will come down to the individual but I think the TDS will change the way some people feel about frame lock knives...myself included!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it JT!!
That's true. I've never had a big issue with framelocks, so I didnt see the TDS as a big deal. Thanks for your input buddy! Also, did that package make it to you yet?
@@JTsKnifeLife Sorry...yes it did!!! Thank you very much!!!
I've had this about six months,I like it,it gets plenty of pocket time.I did have to adjust the clip to my liking,but I always do that,because I prefer no tension,(or grip)at all on my clips.It's very slicey,very good penitration,dood steel,snappy action,solid lockup,VERY light.That double dentent works pretty well,but you still have to be careful to not put to much pressure on the handle when you deploy,but it's not bad-Ive got two 0462s,one deploys great,no matter how you hold it,the other,you HAVE TO have your fingers on the clip,and totally of that locbar to deploy
I'm lucky I got it for $170 as new, perfect for every day task, cutting bread, opening letter... or more
Really wish zt would go back to the old big beefy folders. I mean this one is cool long lean and very light for the size but just not what I think of when I think of zt. Great review 👍
Thanks a lot, but unfortunately I don't see the old ZT coming back any time ever.
Could not open my Bareknuckle. Sent it in to Kershaw and now it’s amazing
What did they do?
@@JTsKnifeLife They adjusted the detent ball and pocket, I believe. Prior deployment was stiff, possibly due to rough machining and non-rounding of edges. My Bareknuckle also has uneven blade grind and pocket clip alignment LOL. Aluminum handle feels amazing though
Never really got into ZTs, but one of the only ones I like is the 0920. Nice stabby blade on this one
I sent you a couple emails and posted on your YT, I hope I havent pissed you off, or anything else for that fact.
I think it's safe to say your fans aren't ZT fans. I am actuality thinking of this with the 0308
The 0308 isn't really one for me either, to be honest.
@@JTsKnifeLife totally get it. I've been tempted to nab a bailout or bugout in M4 too. I recently bought a bugout.
I was super hyped for this knife. Looked like a nice formal wear carry (I mean come on, 0707...double 0 seven). From the day I got it, one thing was for sure.
I hate it.
The clip is terrible. The tension can be adjusted, sure, but it's so small that getting it out of pocket is annoying.
I get the TDS. With smaller frame locks, it's super easy to have your finger in a bad spot and cause an issue with deployment. This, however, isn't a smaller frame lock. It's thin, but it's long enough that the additional pressure would be away from the detent. Would it take some getting used to? Probably. But modern ZTs are known for having good actions, and the action on the 0707 barely raises to the level of bad.
The 0707 was my introduction to buyer's remorse in the knife world. Live and learn.
I miss the old ZT, the one I recently got is garbage compared to the quality that went into the 0220 era.
Well I don't know about this one, you have 2 detents which is flat 2x friction when it comes to surface area. So it doesn't dropshut becase friction is force and that force needs to be twice as high and blade is much lighter then other ones in ZT range. So you might have 1/2 or 2/3 the blade weights and twice the force required to drop it down. Add to that some people don't enjoy blade being able to hammer down freely on their finger so it might be a good thing? for some. Biggest flaw of this knife, it's freakin' expensive.
I watched a lot of knife reviews and having cuts or bandages on the thumb is somewhat common... doesn't take much to figure it out who likes to figit with drop shutting knives.
Looks neat from show side, but thats where it stops, I do like many ZTs, Christine's hubby Peter has a couple super topself great ones.
Zt has always fallen into a weird spot for me. Frame locks are my least favorite locks, and I feel like thats almost all they ever offer. On top of that, I've never cared for big heavy over built tank knives. Now that they have started moving away from the huge knives, I dont cared enough about "premium materials" to make the price jump from kershaw to ZT. In the rare cases I've really liked a design they have done, I can remember the model number long enough to bother looking it up lol
3.6 blade and 2.4 oz? That's kind of nuts.
I like the tanks. I think the idea especially on a knife so slim being able to open even if finger is on the lockbar is a good idea. With those CF flaws and other items definitely wouldn't get that knife. Thanks for sharing .
Sure thing Rick, I appreciate it. Merry xmas man!
Yeah...when I started collecting I bought a number of ZT's....still have them and love them!
...but there is not and has not been anything that has caught my eye for close to 2 years now.....during that time the knife world exploded and it seems that Zero Tolerance contracted...There are just soooooo many incredible knives out there and for me..ZT has just kind of dropped out. Not sure why...but it certainly seems to be deliberate...oh well...I am knife-happy without them! Maybe that will change someday.....😬
I hope it changes, but I really doubt it will to be honest.
Not for me either. The only one I had an issue opening was the 0450 due to its size. The 0562 is still my favorite. Curious to see where they go, nothing of interest in a while.
Very curious to see where they go, not really excited much about them anymore.
I have yet to own a ZT probably will be the 0450 at some point.
If I've $250 I think the ZT I'll buy is the 0470 love Sinkevich design and love so much its little brother (the Kershaw Atmos) then... but I don't have even the half of this money XD Thanks for sharing, it's really a nice knife :)
The 470 is really sweet, in my opinion.
great looking knife very slicey
It’s a great looking knife. I’m surprised the CF has issues. Having drop shut action is not always a sign of quality..The overbuilt ZT folders seemed nice but too heavy to carry and cut like an ax. I only kept the 0393, 0801Ti, 0640..Those all carry OK but not great slicers. Probably should have kept the 0562 but I hate flippers, the less, the better.
There’s a lot of competition now. My MD WE FF Crux, Buc, Dao and Kizer T1 are close to ZT quality and less money. But, too many titanium frame locks have poor lock geometry and not just ZT. I’m done with them.
I enjoy the 0393 too, but yeah, just tons of competition. Hard to stand out in a positive way.
This is the only knife I have ever sent back. I bought it right off the bat direct from kershaw or kai. For the money I expected so much more. It could have been the best knife in their line but it just didn’t cut it for me.
What was so terrible? Mine is fantastic. Best knife I've owned.
What knives WOULD YOU BUY for that same 250$???
Just staying with ZT the 0562CF, 0606 and 0609 are all in that same price range and better knives, I think. A Spydiechef is about 10 bucks cheaper than this, so that's what I'd do.
well neither of these knives is even vaguely similar to this one. Most of them 2x the weight. 0562CF scratches at 3x the weight. It's apples to oranges when it comes to me. And materials prettymuch the same in ZT range
@@Cypeq So you're saying you prefer the 0707? As for my comparisons, yeah man, the 0707 is pretty unique in regards to it's weight. Hard to find something comparable in design for that price.
@@JTsKnifeLife personally yes, kind of? I'm actually looking for a knife in this category a slender 3.5-4 in blade. With your vast experience do you thin this one lives up to ZT name for build quality? (well ignoring imperfect CF on yours)
@@Cypeq Yeah, it lives up to their quality, but it's just a different style from traditional ZTs so it's hard to compare. But for the slimness and weight it is pretty sturdy once you get used to it.
It 's an issue with any frame lock knife if you are left handed. That detent is a great idea in my book. Drop shut is not a big issue in reality. I agree this knife is not on my list to buy.
I'm left handed and for the most part, my hand just naturally learns how to hold a knife in order to deploy it. I've rarely had any issues. That said, it's a smart idea that I'm sure some people will really appreciate.
Yeah anything can be adapted to it's a matter if you want to pay the money and do it or just get something else.@@JTsKnifeLife
I wish it had a 3 inch blade
Absolutely!
Surprised by the carbon fiber. For that money, it would have to look a lot better. Overall, nice looking besides the carbon fiber. There are so many companies competing in this range and this one with fit and finish does not compete. I don’t own a ZT but this does not make me real excited to get one.
Yeah, their pricing seems to have gone up, even on preexisting models. They make good products, some that I really like, but rarely are they a "must have" for me.
not for me, but thanks for the review!
Not for me either!
I'll stick with my ZT 0452. ZT's the way they used to be.
Heard that!
ZTs regression and abandonment of their brand identity is still mind blowing to me. This Tuned Detent seems every bit as desirable as SpeedSafe... I mean, they basically stole the technology that helps Emerson have that awesome Emerson action 🙄
I think for every person what likes the new direction there's at least one who hates it.
@@JTsKnifeLife maybe, but I assume the ones that hate it own 5-10 of their knives... the ones that don't know any better likely came on board during the Mtech.. err.... I mean, 0223 days. IDK, I'm just sorry because they were my gateway and I really want to want a ZT again. Such is life.
I had Nick chop mine. 1” off the blade and 1” off the handle. I did some action work on it and it’s the perfect edc knife. Expensive as hell thou...
I stopped buying zt's years ago. They don't care about making good tools. Just art knives for Instagram and yt to show off.
Dude, they don't even look good anymore
Only one worth that much that I see is the 456. I'd rather have a 20cv Dividend
never carry more weight than you need for the task or tasks...
Nice comprehensive review, this one's not for me either.
Yeah, that a $160-$180 knife imo.
Hey JT, it looks stabby lol
It sure is...
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