How to tell the difference between Untreated Yellow Sapphire vs Beryllium Treated Yellow Sapphire?
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Time stamps:
1) Answer: Unheated vs Beryllium (min 1:30)
2) Price difference between Beryllium & Unheated (min 2:22)
3) How does Beryllium Sapphires look before treatment - "Important for Vedic Astrology purposes" (min 3:56)
4) Unheated Yellow Sapphire under the microscope (min 6:04)
5) Beryllium Yellow Sapphire under the microscope (min 7:22)
For additional pictures and explanation regarding sapphire treatments, I would recommend to check our very popular blog post: www.buygemstone.info/2013/11/...
In this video, we distinguish between an unheated yellow sapphire with aggressively beryllium treated yellow sapphire under the microscope. Both have natural crystal inclusions which really helps in telling us if the sapphires have been treated or not.
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Simple, clear, nice info 👍
Nice video. Such great help
Great information..bro. wish you gud luck. Keep posting.
Thanks for encouragement. I will posting new content soon.
thq for share the knowledge about this sapphire
What would you say is a decent price for a 5.5ct native cut lemon coloured yellow sapphire with si clarity?
Thank you 😍
Thanks for sharing, great information, what microscope do you use for this?
Hi Alex, I bought this microscope 13 years ago back so cannot remember the model number or brand anymore. Most gem microscopes are good enough to check what was discussed in this video.
Regards,
Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
Thanks so much for the sharing. It’s really informative. Could you do videos about how to determine real and fake gemstones?
I will be making some new videos soon. Thanks for positive feedback.
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Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
Thank you very much!👍
You are welcome!
Sir your video helps us a lot
Thanks a lot. We will be trying to make some more soon so please stay tune.
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Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
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Very nice sir , pls put more microscopic clarification...great.. fir blue sapphire . Diamond..
Noted. More on the way. Thanks
How to find borax filled/ fracture filled yellow sapphire
Thanks for informative information which normally gemologist not tell the difference between yellow sapphires 🙏
Thanks for your kind words. Highly appreciate it.
Best Regards,
Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
I was wanting to know if you can put on microscope where what one sees in the doubling of a yellow sapphire. Thank you
Technically yes you can see doubling in a yellow sapphire, but it is not as easily visible as for example a Moissanite.
Regards,
Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
Hi! Greetings from Poland and 2 sister's who are gemstone lovers. Many thanx for this video!:) Just 1 question this microscope has magnification 40x or more? Any specific light conditions must be applied? looking also for difference between untreated vs heated ( without berrilium)sapphires? What specific paterns ones should look for to understand which one is natural and which one is heated only ( no berrilium diffused) could you be so kind and let us know or maybe post new video? Many thanx
Hi Napoli,
Our microscope magnification goes up to 100x magnification, though most inclusions can be seen from 10x onwards.
The light conditions I recommend to check gems are under the dark-field setting which allows you to see inside the gemstone and their inclusions. The inclusions will provide you clues if the gemstone is treated or untreated.
Regarding what to check for unheated and heated, we have posted some videos in the past for rubies and blue sapphires. The same principles apply to yellow sapphires as they are all from the same corundum family.
I recommend for extensive microscope videos with different treatments to check this video: th-cam.com/video/ornjTJv9pl8/w-d-xo.html
Best Regards,
Tarun Gupta, GIA Graduate Gemologist
@@ThaiNativeGems hi Tarun.thank you. still open question is not answered- how to distinguish heated sapphire from heated with berillium diffusion under microscope. Many thanx
What is the difference between metallic fluxes inclusions and liquid filled Fing print inclusion under 10x loupe?
Both look almost similar!
They look similar but are different. With practice and seeing multiple stones you can be to tell difference. Best of luck.
Best Regards,
Tarun Gupta, GIA Graduate Gemologist
Pl provide more content on jade
We will try to make some videos in the near future. Hope you found the current content useful.
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Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
I have a treatee piece one but as much know sapphire have scratche resistance stone.... Bt i use only for 7 days some little scratches are appear is it normal or a fake one?
If the stone is scratching easily, there is a higher chance of being fake than real.
As sapphires have a hardness value of 9 (in Mohs Scale), then most substances cannot scratch it easily (only another sapphire or diamond can scratch it).
Best Regards,
Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
Thanks 💎💐🌹🙏
You’re welcome 😊
I have a yellow stone can you tell me what is it ?
if I send picture for you
please contend with me
Unfortunately, I have to physically see it. Cannot judge based on pictures. What I recommend if you want to verify your stone is by submitting it to a reliable third-party lab. We have written a blog post regarding this here: www.buygemstone.info/2017/03/10/what-lab-or-certification-is-the-best-for-checking-your-expensive-ruby-sapphire-or-emerald/
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Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@@ThaiNativeGems thanks
Good morning sir. Beryllium diffusion treatment and surface diffusion treatment is same .or any difference between them. Beryllium diffusion treatment yellow sapphire price per carat howmuch cost?
They are not the same. For surface diffusion the chemical used is usually Titanium and is usually for blue sapphires.
Price per carat depends on the quality of yellow sapphire. For this sapphire in the video cost is around US$15 per carat. The stone is only around 0.40 carats so total cost is around US$7 to $8.
Best Regards,
Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@@ThaiNativeGems thanq sir.for your reply. I want 3 plus beryllium diffusion yellow sapphire. Best quality howmuch price per carat?available in your thai native gems company. Pl reply me sir
hello friend question you are an expert how reliable is it to buy Gems on eBay Amazon or other sites like these to be very sure of buying a genuine gem I'm sure one day we will be able to see a video of you that explains step by step to buy safely in this case in eBay. well that is my question I hope you have an excellent day thanks in advance
Excellent suggestion. I will see if I can make a video regarding this and what people should look at and avoid when purchasing a gemstone on Ebay.
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Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
I have a small black dot in my yellow sapphire, is that normal or is it bad ??
Depends on what inclusion it is. Can only check in person through gem loupe or microscope.
Regards,
Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@@ThaiNativeGems thanks for the reply . Astrologically, black spots are considered inauspicious, so is that ok to have a yellow sapphire with black tiny dot ?
Hi Navin,
Based on gemology having some inclusion in natural gemstones does provide us some clues if the stone is natural or not (without sophisticated lab equipment). Also makes me feel more comfortable that the stone is natural and not some man made synthetic.
Now base on Vedic astrology, I do agree that the stone should be absolutely clean. Now does that mean if the stone has to be eye clean or microscope clean I'm not sure as in olden times there weren't any microscope or gem loupes. :)
Anyways, I did write an article about this which you can read here: www.buygemstone.info/2014/02/06/how-to-buy-an-astrological-gemstone-based-on-vedic-indian-astrology-in-bangkok-thailand/
@@ThaiNativeGems will read that article, thanks very much for ur time. It makes sense,olden days they dint know if it was microscopically clean.
Great sir...i just wanted to know that is there any percent astrological benefit of a heated treated yellow sapphire as they come in affordable cost. But I am really worrying about its astrological benefits, because that's the sole reason I want to buy a yellow sapphire.
I would definitely recommend a 'natural' stone over heated sapphire for astrological purposes as the gemstone's original property is what effects the wearer.
For more information I do recommend our blog post in this topic which I have provided the link here: www.buygemstone.info/2014/02/06/how-to-buy-an-astrological-gemstone-based-on-vedic-indian-astrology-in-bangkok-thailand/
Best Regards,
Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
Right
i do not believe in astrology connected to stones too much but, lets say i did.
can you please explain , as scientifically as you can , why it is a problem with beryllium treated stones if your only stated reason is that it USED to not be yellow ?
i mean,, if your only scientific reason are color, being in a previous state of purple or green or whatever, and it now is yellow,, and that if you can prove its the same yellow color as untreated yellow sapphire, , ,, what exactly is your reason ?
Agree what you have stated. If you don't believe in 'astrological' properties then beryllium treated yellow sapphire is perfectly fine. In fact the color is stable and you don't have to worry about it fading, etc.,
However, you do have to take into account that these stones are not 'rare' and therefore you should not pay as much as a 'natural' yellow sapphire. In fact they are substantially cheaper.
Scientifically, natural yellow sapphires get their color from trace element "Iron" and not "Beryllium."
I have no issues with beryllium treated sapphires. The only issue I have is the sellers who selling these as a 'natural' yellow sapphire and asking them in similar price range even though they don't fit this category.
Also the reason why I stated astrological reasoning in this video because a lot consumers in India do buy yellow sapphires for 'astrological' purposes and don't know what beryllium treated sapphires are and they do buy for this particular purpose. They believe yellow sapphire represents 'Jupiter' in their charts and believe buying these stones will make their luck or destiny change.
Personally I don't believe in this either but again I am not judging anyone and just trying to educate people what the difference in treatments, and natural stones are.
Thanks for your comments and thoughts.
Best Regards,
Tarun Gupta, GIA GG
@@ThaiNativeGems In the video (5:26) you say that due to the fact that it used to have another color , that is an issue for astrology purposes.
it sorta do very much sounded like, it was the color that was the issue.
you sound and act like a gentleman, i am sorry for attacking you Mr. Gupta.
i have this detective living inside me, he have a need to explore and detect everything , even when its not a good outcome , he just MUST ask ALL the questions. sometimes we reach out and destroy things in our quest for exploring we are sorry.
"They believe yellow sapphire represents 'Jupiter' in their charts and believe buying these stones will make their luck or destiny change. "
im thinking, if astrology people want to use yellow beryllium treated sapphires for luck, or or destiny, you should have a scientific reason behind it when you say they can not. or else it become questionable and i want to ask if you are selling gems for a living....
it is like keeping someone away from true love cause you want a dollar
no ?
Thanks for good reply.
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A handy and informative video however, did you say the larger stone was "flawless" ? Because it is clearly NOT Flawless. It has inclusions as does the treated stone.
Darn I was wrong
Even 'the experts' get it wrong. Thanks in being honest. :)
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