A 3 bedroom semi costs 1200+ to rent a nurse at the bottom of the ladder will be paying tax + NI + Student tax (> 24,000 with 6% interest) to buy a small 3 bedroom semi you would need to earn 60,000 The Tories over the last 13 years have created a debt trap where its impossible to get on the housing ladder and impossible to afford to rent if you try your finances are severely compromised
Politicians who tell working people they need budget training should have their bank accounts frozen and made to live on a minimum wage stipend with their families for the rest of their political careers.
A country that has "foodbanks" is a failed country. Feeding people garbage, in stead of paying them proper wages and having a proper social security system.... sick.
On the other hand to balance the argument. If you offer free stuff there will always be a queue to take it. How are food banks vetting people? I have no doubt there are people in this country who are on the poverty line who desperately need support. But is it everybody who uses food banks? Just asking
@@SubjectiveFunny Your not paying the workforce enough that leads to a stagnant economy large sums spent by government on income and housing support and low income tax and NI take leading to such measures as freezing of tax bands leading to fiscal drag which makes people at the bottom even poorer creating less tax and spend in the wider economy. 80% of income support claimants are in work For someone to buy a 3 bed small semi they would need a 20% deposit and a salary of 60k rental of said property is 1200+ pcm Food inflation is at 16.5% Energy inflation 47.3% Housing inflation 10.3%
The real George Whitebread here, the type of Tory who is managing to damage his party's image more than Liz Truss did. Have the Tories got a freezer somewhere full of Victorian era northern mill owners in suspended animation?
Yes, he is. Ordinary bloke from Northern England, used to do normal jobs like the CAB, as he stated in this. Realised that Labour don't want people to aspire to improve their lot, but just want a feeble client vote, so he changed from Labour to Conservative - in the 'Red Wall'. The plainest-speaking MP in Parliament, awesome chap.
most people would be happy with 35k a year its probably a lie that they using food banks. The question is can the country afford all these pay rises were all struggling and some of us are on far less money.
Some are worse off but this isn’t a competition. The point is no one should have to use a food bank, whatever their situation. People are human and might make financial mistakes. The worrying thing is now that some (not all) nurses on what should be quite a normal wage are using them. That is indicative of the poverty line creeping up. It was not the case that anyone on salary like this was using a food bank. Now some are. It’s not going to get better.
Sadly it's not a lie. There was a staff nurse on tv saying she went to a foodbank. As her average wage is £32000 she should have been ashamed. There are people on minimum wages and benefits who need foodbanks.
As 30p Lee says you should be able to manage on 35k a year. I was just wondering if - when he will be donating the surplus 50k of HIS salary a year to some worthy cause or charity. I somehow dont think he is - or will.
I do agree that people need to get out of big urban centers in order to better their purchasing power ( because it's a genuine modern concern wich is more and more explored by a multitude of governments ) .... but the rest is just highlighting that this man belongs in the past.
Surely the disgrace is that we need to have food banks at all for anyone, let alone nurses. There but for the grace of God go I. If people do need them they should not be ridiculed for having poor financial skills. What a terrible world we live in.
Lee Andersen is a good old fashioned to the point no nonsense MP a breath of fresh air. Keep the honesty going Lee and well done to the times for giving him the opportunity to actually voice his view without spin
He actually makes a very good point. If nurses are on this salary and apparently have to steal food, the surely everyone earning around that salary is also poor? It is, as he says “nonsense”.
It would help if the Tories properly financed the inland revenue so the revenue could collect the £120 Billion that goes uncollected because there aren’t enough revenue officers and investigators to investigate corporations and the very rich to ensure they pay the taxes they owe. It was the Tories that gutted the revenue and caused a massive reduction in manpower, my view is the Tories did this deliberately to protect their rich donors.
Totally agree, I as an ex trade union Branch Secretary, in the Civil Service could never understand why Trade Unions could never understand that % increases only held the poorest at the bottom of the pay scale, even wen it looked as if they were getting a higher % and in reality it meant they were falling further behind.
It is private rents that are eating peoples budgets away, 100 quid a month savings wont go anywhere, i earned 25k a year living at home and saved 37k to buy my own home over 10 years ago, if someone with a family was on 30k a year they wouldnt have enough to live on
Definitely sick of hearing overpaid nurses whine. Fun thing is only half of them are truly competent and we'd be better off cutting down on redundant staffing.
Well said!!! Anyone who thinks nurses are great have never met many. I agree probably half are competent. However, even the competent ones - they are just doing a job and getting a good wage for it. Average wage is £32000, so many are paid more than this.
Does he not know how little £35k is nowadays? Even millionaire Michael Gove has condemned Anderson for these out of touch comments. £35k is barely liveable nowadays given the cost of living crisis everyone is under. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of nurses are eating the scraps of patients' food or relying on food banks daily.
I'm on 33k and I save over £800 a month. If you are struggling then you are living way beyond your means. Everyone wants the nice car and the fancy house. Everyone wants to be a princess. Ridiculous.
35k is perfectly liveable I live in Cambridge - the only place as expensive as London - and survive on 19k. An additional 16k per year would allow me to have 2 holidays and still put thousands away as savings
I agree. He is talking sense to me. It's ridiculous of nurses who earn an average wage of £32000 to use foodbanks. They should be ashamed. There are people on minimum wages or benefits who really need foodbanks.
He's using Katy ...it's been proven that as an example she has a privileged background and her situation is completely different from your average struggling family . It's a great shame that she's been highlighted in this exploitative manner. The idea that he has some kind of finger on the pulse of Britain's cost of living crisis is ridiculous! He's a proven racist, bullying, misogynistic individual and generally unpleasant ...I can't imagine him in a citizens' advice centre . He's one to mention " plants " ...he was caught planting a mate as a constitute and got caught out . He has a proven record of lying . Fits perfectly into the government...
#TimesRadio - It's all very well to say people can manage on under £30k what about single parents who can't afford shoes or coats for their rapidly growing children? I realise some people don't know how to manage without luxuries, for example: Unwinding with a glass of your favourite after a hard day; Having the heating on so you can relax a hectic day away by soaking in a hot bath without freezing; Shopping for footwear that doesn't leak in wet and cold weather; Being able to afford to keep an old vehicle on the road so you don't have to make several public travel transfers on route to where you are going, with possibly a long walk either end of the journey or, freezing during the winter on a push bike. That's just a few examples of what lower income people, with or without families, on benefits or working more than one job to survive and feed their families, class as luxuries. Many of the people he's referring to are in this category and life isn't easy for them with the current economic issues. I'd like to see these MP's manage without their 'clubs', big houses that they can afford to heat, even entertain in; to do without several coats for various weathers and several pairs of expensive shoes ... they just don't understand how dire the situation is, they are blinded by their own wealth.
@steve2 001 it’s reduced opportunities that become less and less available the closer you get to poverty when growing up. Almost completely dependant on circumstances out of their control. If you were born into poverty it would be the same, but you’re privileged as am I.
Totally agree first wage£27a week y.t.s ""now around £15,000 year" alot less than nurses always had to manage no handouts like food banks no dole grants.first job on security was£2,75 a hour down London Kent etc these strikers don't know how to budget.
So the staffer is living comfortably at the start of the interview, but at the end she is struggling to make ends meet ? I remember when I was young we didn't have enough money to buy a pair of shoes. We shared a cardboard box between four of us ....... Cue Monty Python 😂.
I wouldn’t listen to a word 30p Lee spouts out. He lies, like most Tories, and pretends he doesn’t know some random bloke when he got caught out on the microphone setting it up. First class tool.
Not sure Lee is the most empathetic MP I've ever heard
Psychotic ?
A 3 bedroom semi costs 1200+ to rent a nurse at the bottom of the ladder will be paying tax + NI + Student tax (> 24,000 with 6% interest) to buy a small 3 bedroom semi you would need to earn 60,000
The Tories over the last 13 years have created a debt trap where its impossible to get on the housing ladder and impossible to afford to rent if you try your finances are severely compromised
I'd rather have a nurse explain the truth of this. Why have a Conservative MP tell us this?
He says if they want more money they should get a better paid job.
They are leaving in droves .
Exactly no staff retention
Love how he focuses the discussion on nurses and doesn’t consider care assistants or porters
Tories want England back to the 1930's where the poor where poor and the rich were happy
Isn't that what we have today?
Politicians who tell working people they need budget training should have their bank accounts frozen and made to live on a minimum wage stipend with their families for the rest of their political careers.
A country that has "foodbanks" is a failed country. Feeding people garbage, in stead of paying them proper wages and having a proper social security system.... sick.
That's ridiculous.
You have absolutely no idea how business works if you think that's the case.
Astonishing...
On the other hand to balance the argument. If you offer free stuff there will always be a queue to take it. How are food banks vetting people? I have no doubt there are people in this country who are on the poverty line who desperately need support. But is it everybody who uses food banks? Just asking
than all countries are failed countries aren't they
@@SubjectiveFunny Your not paying the workforce enough that leads to a stagnant economy large sums spent by government on income and housing support and low income tax and NI take leading to such measures as freezing of tax bands leading to fiscal drag which makes people at the bottom even poorer creating less tax and spend in the wider economy.
80% of income support claimants are in work
For someone to buy a 3 bed small semi they would need a 20% deposit and a salary of 60k rental of said property is 1200+ pcm
Food inflation is at 16.5%
Energy inflation 47.3%
Housing inflation 10.3%
@@Charlieb6308 how many millionaires use food banks? Why not? It’s free stuff. Genuinely interested in your answer
The real George Whitebread here, the type of Tory who is managing to damage his party's image more than Liz Truss did. Have the Tories got a freezer somewhere full of Victorian era northern mill owners in suspended animation?
Great! I'm sure that £100 a month saved away will really help buy a property in London!
MPs who vote for a payrise need budgeting training
Is he really a working class bloke?! He tries to sell himself as working class
Just talking sense.
Yes, he is. Ordinary bloke from Northern England, used to do normal jobs like the CAB, as he stated in this. Realised that Labour don't want people to aspire to improve their lot, but just want a feeble client vote, so he changed from Labour to Conservative - in the 'Red Wall'. The plainest-speaking MP in Parliament, awesome chap.
50p Lee
The man who talks the talk and knows it all 🤦♂️ 🃏
I bet this guy also has a black friend.
So many inconsistencies in lazy arguments tripping over his own lines and contradicting himself.
30p Lee, the fact we have food banks at all is a failure of the government.
Can he still feed a family for 30p ?
I expect the staffer has savings and parental help - she comes from an affluent middle class family.
Agree with Lee Anderson.
most people would be happy with
35k a year its probably a lie that they using food banks. The question is can the country afford all these pay rises were all struggling and some of us are on far less money.
Some are worse off but this isn’t a competition. The point is no one should have to use a food bank, whatever their situation. People are human and might make financial mistakes. The worrying thing is now that some (not all) nurses on what should be quite a normal wage are using them. That is indicative of the poverty line creeping up. It was not
the case that anyone on salary like this was using a food bank. Now some are. It’s not going to get better.
Sadly it's not a lie. There was a staff nurse on tv saying she went to a foodbank. As her average wage is £32000 she should have been ashamed. There are people on minimum wages and benefits who need foodbanks.
How did people survive similar situations in the past?
They went without meals.
many of them didn't.
They fought for a better system so we wouldn’t have to
@@ThePereubu1710 probably because rents were not extortionate.
Got rid of one of their cars.
As 30p Lee says you should be able to manage on 35k a year. I was just wondering if - when he will be donating the surplus 50k of HIS salary a year to some worthy cause or charity. I somehow dont think he is - or will.
I do agree that people need to get out of big urban centers in order to better their purchasing power ( because it's a genuine modern concern wich is more and more explored by a multitude of governments ) .... but the rest is just highlighting that this man belongs in the past.
Surely the disgrace is that we need to have food banks at all for anyone, let alone nurses. There but for the grace of God go I. If people do need them they should not be ridiculed for having poor financial skills. What a terrible world we live in.
Wow. Just wow.
One can just picture Lee Anderson as a Victorian mill owner squeezing the life out of his workers, and telling them they have never had it so good.
Haa spot on. Us peasants should get what we're given and like it..
Lee Andersen is a good old fashioned to the point no nonsense MP a breath of fresh air. Keep the honesty going Lee and well done to the times for giving him the opportunity to actually voice his view without spin
He actually makes a very good point. If nurses are on this salary and apparently have to steal food, the surely everyone earning around that salary is also poor? It is, as he says “nonsense”.
Does he even understand tax brackets, and the fact that staff have no parking on site, that will take up to 1/4 of pay for junior doctors and nurses.
Then make the Fortune 500 pay for everyone’s pay rises!
People on £10 per hour will re-elect him. Nuff said.
Agreed, there lays the problem. Its like Turkey's voting for Christmas
Vile man.
Brave, honest man
It would help if the Tories properly financed the inland revenue so the revenue could collect the £120 Billion that goes uncollected because there aren’t enough revenue officers and investigators to investigate corporations and the very rich to ensure they pay the taxes they owe. It was the Tories that gutted the revenue and caused a massive reduction in manpower, my view is the Tories did this deliberately to protect their rich donors.
50 years ago when they brought % wages out it always favoured the better of
Totally agree, I as an ex trade union Branch Secretary, in the Civil Service could never understand why Trade Unions could never understand that % increases only held the poorest at the bottom of the pay scale, even wen it looked as if they were getting a higher % and in reality it meant they were falling further behind.
It is private rents that are eating peoples budgets away, 100 quid a month savings wont go anywhere, i earned 25k a year living at home and saved 37k to buy my own home over 10 years ago, if someone with a family was on 30k a year they wouldnt have enough to live on
Definitely sick of hearing overpaid nurses whine. Fun thing is only half of them are truly competent and we'd be better off cutting down on redundant staffing.
Well said!!! Anyone who thinks nurses are great have never met many. I agree probably half are competent. However, even the competent ones - they are just doing a job and getting a good wage for it. Average wage is £32000, so many are paid more than this.
I'm a boat driver on 34grand a year and have 2kids, my rent is 1300 a month... I need to use a food bank regularly
Probably got a £100 a month phone contract to huh? Sort your finances out fool
Does he not know how little £35k is nowadays? Even millionaire Michael Gove has condemned Anderson for these out of touch comments.
£35k is barely liveable nowadays given the cost of living crisis everyone is under. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of nurses are eating the scraps of patients' food or relying on food banks daily.
I'm on 33k and I save over £800 a month.
If you are struggling then you are living way beyond your means.
Everyone wants the nice car and the fancy house.
Everyone wants to be a princess.
Ridiculous.
35k is perfectly liveable
I live in Cambridge - the only place as expensive as London - and survive on 19k.
An additional 16k per year would allow me to have 2 holidays and still put thousands away as savings
@@SubjectiveFunny Tory.
@@jgreen2015 No it's not. Stop lying and spreading Tory propaganda.
Are you joking?
Lee Anderson- a simple man with simple views
I like him. No woke bull, straightforward bloke. Speaks for the silent majority. Probably won’t last five minutes nowadays though.
I agree. He is talking sense to me. It's ridiculous of nurses who earn an average wage of £32000 to use foodbanks. They should be ashamed. There are people on minimum wages or benefits who really need foodbanks.
So 100 a month saving, what happens if she had 2 kids? Typical Brexit era MP
If dad's around, he's bringing in a second income. If he's not, she's getting a second income in Child Support.
Not on normal courtyard excersise
Let his guard slip when he said should 'get rid of diversity officers'.. outed. Never trust a tory
50p Lee
Earn £30,000 in 2022/2023 and you'll take home £22,817. This means not so much is it
So if your married between you almost 1k a week, and still you want to use a food bank.
He's using Katy ...it's been proven that as an example she has a privileged background and her situation is completely different from your average struggling family . It's a great shame that she's been highlighted in this exploitative manner. The idea that he has some kind of finger on the pulse of Britain's cost of living crisis is ridiculous! He's a proven racist, bullying, misogynistic individual and generally unpleasant ...I can't imagine him in a citizens' advice centre . He's one to mention " plants " ...he was caught planting a mate as a constitute and got caught out . He has a proven record of lying . Fits perfectly into the government...
Start using net pay not gross it’s net that you live on .really looking forward to a change off government
Diane Abbott in charge of the NHS. Heaven help us.
#TimesRadio - It's all very well to say people can manage on under £30k what about single parents who can't afford shoes or coats for their rapidly growing children? I realise some people don't know how to manage without luxuries, for example: Unwinding with a glass of your favourite after a hard day; Having the heating on so you can relax a hectic day away by soaking in a hot bath without freezing; Shopping for footwear that doesn't leak in wet and cold weather; Being able to afford to keep an old vehicle on the road so you don't have to make several public travel transfers on route to where you are going, with possibly a long walk either end of the journey or, freezing during the winter on a push bike. That's just a few examples of what lower income people, with or without families, on benefits or working more than one job to survive and feed their families, class as luxuries. Many of the people he's referring to are in this category and life isn't easy for them with the current economic issues. I'd like to see these MP's manage without their 'clubs', big houses that they can afford to heat, even entertain in; to do without several coats for various weathers and several pairs of expensive shoes ... they just don't understand how dire the situation is, they are blinded by their own wealth.
@steve2 001 what a poor response. How disconnected from the real world are you?
@steve2 001 great reply. What are you 12?
@steve2 001 I work with people in poverty. It is 99% a product of circumstance. Your replies show your privilege and disconnect with reality
@steve2 001 in some but not all cases some of those things are present. Why do you think for example a person has a poorly paid job?
@steve2 001 it’s reduced opportunities that become less and less available the closer you get to poverty when growing up. Almost completely dependant on circumstances out of their control. If you were born into poverty it would be the same, but you’re privileged as am I.
He just loves attention. Disgusting
Never heard of him before but talked some sense. Im a qualified greenkeeper on nowhere near what a nurse earns.
Totally agree first wage£27a week y.t.s ""now around £15,000 year" alot less than nurses always had to manage no handouts like food banks no dole grants.first job on security was£2,75 a hour down London Kent etc these strikers don't know how to budget.
You're wrong obviously. Rents were disproportionately lower in the past as were gas and electricity. Therefore your point is completely vapid
Lee tells it straight.
.....but he tells lies, is arrogant, deceitful and thoroughly offensive in much of what he spews out! He'll lose his seat next GE for sure!
@@evansmusic48 bo**ocks!
So the staffer is living comfortably at the start of the interview, but at the end she is struggling to make ends meet ?
I remember when I was young we didn't have enough money to buy a pair of shoes. We shared a cardboard box between four of us ....... Cue Monty Python 😂.
I wouldn’t listen to a word 30p Lee spouts out. He lies, like most Tories, and pretends he doesn’t know some random bloke when he got caught out on the microphone setting it up. First class tool.