EDO O' RISI AGBON! OBA GHA TO' KPERE, ISE! I am so impressed with the ways these elders corroborated the assertions of the REAL origin of the Ikwerres.
These Ikwerre men are truly remarkable, deserving commendation for their efforts in addressing all areas of concern. The Ikwerre identity is now crystal clear, and any attempt to deviate from this is simply an attempt to falsely alter their identity. Since their inception, they have steadfastly maintained their position and successfully resisted all attempts to undermine their strong identity.
I believe that Ikwerre is another Igbo subgroup just like Owerri, Onicha, Nsukka, Ngwa, Mbaise, Orlu, Enugwu, etc. All these Igbo subgroups have different Igbo dialects, as well as Ikwerre. But they understand each other, and are strongly connected by Igbo traditions and culture, especially the four Igbo market days, masquerade, musical instruments, foods, fruits, especially kola nut, yam, coco yam, etc.
I am from delta state.. My DNA done in the USA came out igbo,Benin and Bantus. 58% igbo.38%Benin from my mothers family. Bantus from east/ central africa.Africa. Lab test will clear all these arguments.
@@mrrapanpass Abeg comont for road, you are going crazy oooo!!! Jealousy, out of something substantive, is now clouding your brain and you are talking as a liar, akin to a little child! Mumu MAN like you, Shame on you!!!
African countries speak the languages of their colonizers they learnt from educational institutions but they also speak their tribal languages which they have mastered in their homes from their parents. The elementary test question is why do Nigerians speak English? The answer is because the British was the colonial master of Nigeria. Whereas English is the indigenous language of Britain, do you have an indigenous language that no body can claim as not yours? Think seriously about this question.
I don't care what anybody besides Ikwere and Benin/Edo people says, the Ikwere have the same exact spiritual belief as the Edo/Benin people, and serve their spirituality as the Edo people! BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER, No yawa!!!!!
The Ijaws speak Ijaw and also Igbo. Ex-Prez Jonathan Goodluck, late musician Rex Lawson, Dokubo, Timaya, Ann- Kio Briggs and more speak/spoke Igbo. Even Saro Wiwa an Ogoni man spoke Igbo but spoke his native Ogoni. All ethnic groups spoke their ethnic languages which distinguished them from the Igbos. This must also apply to the Ikwerres. What is the ethnic language that Ikwerre people speak that is different from the Igbo? Besides, why is there hardly any Ikwerre word traceable to the Benin language which were ironclad in their heads during their sojourning?
The ikwerres are ashamed of their actions against their kins - real igbos during the civil war. The guilt is eating them up hence they are now cooking up history to cover their shameful betrayal of their brothers and sisters.
No one is attempting to claim Ikwere. The reality is that the Igbo people firmly believe that they and the Ikwere people belong to the same family and are brothers. Regardless of any actions or statements made by a group of educated individuals or selfish politicians, the Igbo people's conviction remains unshakeable. This is despite the ill-treatment they experienced from their Ikwere brothers after the Nigerian civil war.
Of course they are brothers and that is supposed to be the attitude igbos should carry about the whole matter , brother hood simple. Yorubas dont go about stalking and harassing the itsekiris and olukunmis and attempt an imposition over their heritage or call them ethnic Yorubas. A Yoruba Oba will respectably address an olukunmi as an olukunmi and an Itsekiri as an itsekiri. That is the way to celebrate diversity. Sister heritages and cousinhood celebrating each others similarities as well as uniqueness. Simple!
@@Uwadiae8643After Everything bad thing that Benin Kingdom committed since the Existence of the kingdom what have they achieve? After collecting gun's from British and Portuguese to Capture slave's what have they achieve? Many small kingdom from Benin run away from Benin Kingdom and Many rejected Benin Language and anything that associates them with Benin Kingdom, just like Urobo and Even Onucha
@@uchennavictor9866😂😂😂😂 flathead una no go kee person with laughther. There is absolutely NO ancient civilization that doesn't have a history full of good and bad. The Binis are no different and they are proud of it. At least the they have a history, what did your ancestors achieve?
It's difficult to deny who you are, even when you want deny it, your real identity keeps giving you away. Let Ikwerre be whatever they want to be but who you are will continue to give you away. One distinctive traits about Igbos is continuous maintenance of clan name anywhere they found themselves. Many Igbo clan nsmes in other parts of Igbo land still maintains their names in Ikwerre land such as Dioka, Dioga clan, Okpo clan and so on. To me, let Ikwerre be whatever they want to be.
The problem with you guys is narcissism . A Yoruba will sit with an Itsekiri and both will entertain themselves with their similarities and differences. so will an Efik and ibibio , Urhobo and itsekiri or Chinese and Japanese without qualms. Distinctions delineate us all into different groups or ethnicities simple. Ikwerre dialect for instance is a mix of both igbo dialect and iduoid words and phrases, certain names point to other lineages other than igbo suggesting igbos moved into an aboriginal group or clan. Yorubas influenced itsekiri greatly that is why itsekiri is a mix of both yoruba and iduoid words , vocabulary and phrases and bear certain non Yoruba names . Understand Ethnicities can be compound and not from a single stock like the nnewi, nsukka or other wholly stock igbo tribes.. Simple! una own too dey too much! so should ikwerres tell only a half story of their heritage or paint a half picture of who they are?
@@cryptofxalgorithmsand the problem with you guys is ignorance while claiming knowledge,any one who knows the languages can tell the difference btw itsekiri and Yoruba,or urhobo,now on that premise ,please state the "iduoid " phrases in ikwere that you are talking about,ikwere is a dialect on its own,it has no linguistic similarity with any Edo language,if you were any knowledgeable about ikwere and the Igbo language,you would know it is just a dialect of the broader Igbo language.and Also it is the other way around they (ikwere)moved into an largely Igbo area,not the other way around,there are izon words and phrases in ikwere ,ndoki,andoni and etche , because of proximity but the language structure,syntax and idioms is just igbo.their name for the Igbo(isoma) is actually isuama which is just the name of a single clan in imo, obviously the first people they interacted with inland largely so they used the term to broadly refer to the Igbo,the Igbo language is not a monolith,it is comes in vastly different varieties,an ezzi man cannot understand an abriba .man without speaking the general igbo ,but they are both called Igbo,much less an ikwere man who is fairly intelligible to most imo and abia people who n without an interpreter while they would need one for the ebonyi man..today ikwere is just 4 lgas ,they have the same markers and identifiers as the general Igbo culture,thier name for God,and other deities are same,their market days are. Same ,they break kola in the same way,even thier mothers and great grand mothers and some of their fathers originated from the other "Igbo" people.if all other Igbo were to disappear from the earth today leaving them ,then they would be by default be the Igbos to all and sundry,so this is really a moot and useless argument only for those who are ignorant of the history of the area.unforbately most are therefore the persistent innane argument.nobody is trying to make them Igbo by force ,they are what they are ,if you walk like a duck ,quack like a duck,and your parents were ducks,how are you a swan all of a sudden,they are from Edo right?but nothing of the Edo language or culture remains in the language,no name or identifier, even the ewe in Togo and Ghana still traces of Yoruba,the zamarima and buzu of Niger' and Chad still bear Hausa markers and traces .but the Igbo without war or conquest wiped every trace of bini from ikwere.doesnt that sound strange??
If only they have been speaking their own unique language different from Igbo just like all the ethnic groups in their areas do, then no linguistic issue would have been available for contemplation. Igbos have been asking them not to parade the Igbo language as Bini. Many have wondered why the Ikwerre men like marrying Igbo women who add more to them clinging to Igbo, whereas the marriages from Bini would introduce the missing lingual Bini link. School teaching of the Bini the language would definitely fortify their point of view, frustrating any effort by the Igbos of saying, don not speak my language.
@@obiezedaniels5907 Are Ikwerres and Igbos the only ethnicities in the world that share the same language but are different people?! Do the Austrians not speak German, but are they German? Do the Scots not speak English, but are they English? Do the Welsh not speak English, but are they English? Do the Catalonians not speak Spanish, but are they Spanish? Do the Belgians not speak both French and Dutch, but are they either French or Dutch. I can go on and on! This phenomenon is very easy and straight forward, it's you folks that make it seem difficult and convoluted.
If trarde goes with language, how did it take igbos to teach you igbo language. Otherwise, ikwere people would have use pigin English as their trading language.
Even if the BENIN was a war Land in those days that course our firefighters to flee to ADO EKITI, but that doesn't change our origin, WE ARE STILL FROM BENIN, this is how our fathers put on ground as our own heritage, we have our own dialect different from Yoruba, but we speak Yoruba as a language, the truth we know it deeply in our mind, group migrated from BENIN SPACE to far way west Africa, BENIN Republic also came to take permission from the palace of BENIN, but the Benins will not talk about it because they don't need you. We know where we origin from is BENIN.
The problem with you guys is narcissism . A Yoruba will sit with an Itsekiri and both will entertain themselves with their similarities and differences. so will an Efik and ibibio , Urhobo and itsoko or Chinese and Japanese without qualms. Distinctions delineate us all into different groups or ethnicities simple. Ikwerre dialect for instance is a mix of both igbo dialect and iduoid words and phrase., Certain names point to other lineages other than igbo suggesting igbos moved into or met on ground an aboriginal group or clan. Yorubas influenced itsekiri greatly when they moved into their lands that is why itsekiri is a mix of both yoruba and iduoid words , vocabulary and phrases and bear certain non Yoruba names of the aboriginals. Understand Ethnicities can be compound and not from a single stock like the nnewi, nsukka or other wholly stock igbos tribes. Simple! una own too dey too much! so should ikwerres tell only a half story of their heritage or paint a half picture of who they are?
Be deceiving yourself, I understand an Ikwerre man 100% just as I understand an anambra man, and you’re telling about some useless iduoid words or nonsense you just typed, for me I don’t care if they claim Benin or not, they stole our property during the civil war, if my Igbo brothers and sisters have forgiven and forgotten, I haven’t
If you not no your say I nor no, So that it will be better for you and your household. Binis Empire, Not Igbo empire or even Yoruba via Hausa, But We are one people under divine name of Ancestors. We all are childrens king Solomon king David Read: songs of Solomon chapters one verses five & Six.
As a child growing up if you can't believe what your father told you you are and you grew up to argue it it miss the school teacher wasted his time filling a can that is made not to resist water.
During the invasion of Benin empire the british recruited hausas, yorubas Oyo and igbos Abia, after they succeeded they created the northern region, western region and the Eastern region. In the Eastern region you can't get a job or go to school if you don't have Abia name or speak Abia language. Abia language and names was imposed on every tribe in the Eastern region. The yorubas also tried to do the same thing in the old western region, but the OBA of Benin and the elders understand their evil plans to replace our name and language with Oyo language names. So the Midwest region was created to preserve EDO language traditions and cultur, if not the creation of the Midwest region, by now the Benins would have be speaking yoruba language while deltas will be speaking igbo language.
What a nonsensical garbage from you! Check the positions held throughout the Eastern region and tell me whether all the positions were occupied by Igbos. In fact, the minority groups in the Eastern region occupied a lot of positions. You really wrote like a drunk man.
I am an Edo/Benin man, I hear all that the elders and the learned people here are saying, they all have researched history about their affiliation with Benin/Edo. Akalaka, as we still have OGBELAKA in Benin today! I am very joyous that the meaningful people of Ikwere know where they are from, and that is what matters! All those Igbo insinuations and convolutions are baseless and useless. As long as the MEANINGFUL people who know their history, know where they come from, and who they are, that is what matters infinito!!! Amen to God and our Ancestors, Iseeee!!!!
The Jews in America and Germany still identity thier origin. Oga professor you cannot recreate anthropology, history . Amadi, Eke, Wike, Wigwe, Aguma may not be Benin? Ikwerre dropped from heaven, we hear you! WAR, War no goodoo !
A people is whom they think they are. This struggles for identity is uncalled for. Biafra will come when we have all die. When bight of Biafra was on Atlas map who complained. This evil gossips and hate was why history study was removed from school curriculum in Nigeria.How far ?
I don't see any special importance the Ikweres are that is worth fighting for. The Binis you claim to originare from don't consider your their brother. They still know you are a Nyamiri.
In my view , this matter has been too exaggeratingly twisted. This in part due majorly to the narcissistic tendencies of a certain group of people that I wont bother to mention here, not all of them though fortunately but some. Ethnicity is a simple phenomenon of internalizing a uniqueness over time averagely centuries to millennia that gives a people a signature sort of different from other close or relative groups or ethnicities. A Chinese for instance can understand 40 to 60 percent plus or minus of what a Japanese or Korean may speak and often bear similar names, but that does not make a Japanese a Chinese. Ethnicity is about divergencies in lineage /cross lineage , migrations, affiliations /cross affiliations, disputes, wars, dialectic or linguistic deviations in speech forms or distinct tonal and stress patterns of speech , politics, culture /cross culture ,demographic changes etc that create in a group its uniqueness over another or other relative groups over averagely centuries to millennia. You have the Yorubas and the Itsekiris for instance. Only a narcissistic Yoruba will call an Itsekiri a Yoruba and as it stands only a narcissistic Chinese will refer to a korean or Japanese as Chinese. They are referred to in reference to accredited precepts inclusive of the subject being addressed here simply as 'relatives' . Thus a chinese is only a relative of the korean, the Yoruba a relative of the Itsekiri. Thus an ikwerre is only a relative of the Ika man, an Ika a relative of the igbanke , the igbanke himself a relative of both the ikwerre and the igbo etc. Cut and quote this matter is as flat simple as that and any other opinion outside this is objectively narcissistic!
THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL. WHATEVER "IS" WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL. Once you project a false narrative, you have to be on ground to continually re-inforce those false narratives, otherwise those false narratives will continually expose your falsehood. The truth shines like the STARS IN HEAVEN AND NEVER DIMS OR EXTINGUIHSED.
The reason why i knew that people lack wisdom of understanding is that the igbo they talked about have different subgroups. Then who will tell me the group that is the main igbo? I want to know the people that are the original igbo. If you reach anambra you see difference dialect, the same to abia
So, their father's failed to tell them who they are?? Igbo people were invaded by their neighbors(Bini) and sacked out of their land. Their ancestral land was taken over by the Bini people while they found another land elsewhere and settled. These are Igbo people (Ikwerre)!!
Onitsha, oguta people claim Benin, ancestry, biafrans are not perturbed because they are been captured and assimilated . Recently, the biafrans have discovered that their lands have been exhausted now they are desperately looking for new lands that's why they looking for other people's land to acquire. As for the Ikwere people, they know it's only option to the sea that's why the urge to quickly capture them by the biafrans.
Very sad hearing how the Igbo manipulated and psychologically forced the Ikwere people to start speaking Igbo. These Igbos, behavior is so open as such up till today. This is the major reason for the Biafra war. Ahmedu Bello saw this coming to the North and immediately had them pack and move from the Northern area!!!! He described the Igbo as cockroaches given access, will occupy the entire space.....Ahmedu Bello!!!!
Edo people does have any relationship with Ikwere .It is embarrassing to see old men lying and confusing their youths. Tell us where you resemble the Orayamiyos? Is masquerade , market days, names, festivals and etc.Tell the world where you resemble the bini?.Even bini (Igodomigodo) is from Nsukka. These people are risking Fulani claiming that land. Nobody is called Ikwere but Iweoha. England gave you the name Ikwere during slave trade. I am really ashamed of you guys.
I am equally more ashamed of you igboismisits trying to steal other peoples heritage through lies! Igbo migrants who were accommodated in these parts met other ethnicities and aboriginals in these parts. The language only fused. The dialect has rich amounts of words and phrases not found in igbo as well as other names not Igbo in origin as with the influence of Yoruba dialect on Itsekiri. Accommodating igbo migrants does not make them an Igbo heritage. They know who they are. They are not ethnic igbos!
Ikwerres have no single bini word in their language but every word in ikwerre language is igbo word. Ikwerres , are they better than igbos in any ramifications in nigeria today? Wow! What a group of deceptive elders of ikwerre.
I am not in anyways disputing these facts but my question is do Benin kingdom bear Igbo names or speak Igbo language? How did the Ikwerre people speak Igbo and not Benin???
Very easy, the Oba of Lagos and all the Royals in Lagos claimed that they migrated from Bini, but all bearing Yoruba names and don,t speak the Bini language, but royal titles like Iyase, Oba or Alake.
@@kimberlymarion7447 Every human being originated in Africa but today you have Asians, Europeans, Africans, etc. The obas of Lagos ancestors from Benin are minorities as you say met Yorubas majority culture that is why he speaks Yoruba. All the ex slaves that settled in lagos were absord by Yoruba majorities. They married Yorubas and do everything that Yorubas do. What is the culture of all those Benin and ex slaves in lagos today - all are Yorubas cultured. Whatever you say about ikwerre, bonny city, etc, today the majority are of Igbo culture with ikwerre as Igbo other Igbo.
The main root of this issue is simple. It is rooted in the narcissisms of many igbos, a Yoruba will sit with an Itsekiri and both will enjoy and entertain themselves with their similarities and differences without any qualms. A chinese wil do similar with a Japanese. A narcissist igbo doesnt want to hear ikwerre , ika , igbanke etc he is only interested in hearing igbo. The explanation is igbos moved a lot and moved to locations where they even outnumbered the aboriginals. Just like japanese and itsekiri which are of compound vocabularies , chinese and aboriginal dialects for the Japanes and yoruba and iduoid vocabularies and dialects for itsekiris , the ika , ikwere , igbanke languages have dissimilar words and phrases pointing to the aboriginal dialect the moving igbos met. Fast track centuries these ethnicities are unique in that they are not solely igboid but both igboid and iduoid. Their lineages are also not solely igboid but igboid and iduoid. Simple thing but not so with narcissistic igbos. They are so objectively narcissistic they dont even want to allow the custodians of these heritages tell of their compound lineages and heritages and wont rest until they make mention of igbo.
If the two brothers who migrated from benin, there names were ochichi and akalaka. The two names were Igbo names. It wasn't Benin names. So it is crystal clear that the Igbo brothers left Igboland and went to Benin.
Bonny always has two languages Igbo And Ijaw. German Koelle came to bonny and as bonny town were speaking Igbo mainly but finima was speaking another Language, he classifieds that language as Ibani. In fact Ubani is what the Igbo speakers called themselves as ikwerre called themselves ikwerre or ohruoha. Ikwerre union also owerri union, onitsha union, oka union, mbasie union, etc.
@@raphaelsackeyjaja3697 Trying reading colonial records and documents on bonny and Ikewerre from the 16th century onwards. The one name I gave is a refrence you can use for a start. Education 😂 is your answer.
Why would Igbo want to own the 3 Ikwerre lgas? Politically Ikwere are in river state. So political and geopolitics associations are different to ethnicities. Germans are in Germany, France, Austria, Switzerland, etc. Likewise Igbo are in Ebonyi, Enugu, Abia, Imo, Anambra, delta, rivers, etc. Why are Ikwerre always scared almost as if some people will tell them leave river state or claim river state from them? 0kirika, kalabari both claim to be Ijaws and yet they are both in River state?
I still wonder how a people language,culture, way of worship can change, just because of trade it makes little or no sense to any rational being. Let us think deeper umu Nne ...and stop making mockery of our selfs
Yeah, same way people's Language, Culture and Traditions changed many years ago from Israel to Igbo. And even skin complexions and hair texture change from that of a white to a black Man's. Even continent Changed from Asia to Africa 😂😂😂 indeed you are very funny
Itshikiri are not Yoruba but they speak similar to the Yoruba and they will tell you they migrated from Benin empire and they bear corrupt Yoruba names mostly so how is it different with the ikwerre ? Itshikiri where influenced by the Yorubas who migrated there and bini language itself is very difficult to understand or speak if you are not born or raise speak the language and that's why the language is dying even in Edo state
When the ‘unwise’ old man said that his ancestor, Akslaka and his brother mrsn aeay from Benin, when tg were ruling Oba became tyrannical, he is not saying their Benin names. What about Ighodaro or Omoregie. If they were, actually, Benin people, what were their original names, before they changed it to Alalaka, which is a very serious Igbo word or noun. What language or culture did they migrate with. It is gross ignorance, to associate Ikwere people with Benin. The fact that they had Igbo names and, came from Benin, means that they were Igbos, living under the Obas dominance. After there are Igbos in that geographical enclave. There could have been a sprinkle of Benin people and, they have every right to claim Benin, but should not drag others with them. The same ‘unwise’ old man is not saying the name they were answering, when they cane from Benin. It is a shame! He doesn’t even know that Ikwere is not even their real name. One of their progenitors, Elechi Amadi, wrote one of the best books on Igbo culture, but made a 90% turn, at some point of the Civil War and after the Civil War, out of un order to please his new found masters and out of shame and embarrassment of his treachery and betrayal of his brothers and intellectual colleague. The ‘unwise’ old man should say even one Bini word, that can ve found in either the Ikwere language or culture. If not, that makes him a veast of no nation. My strong feeling is that, anybody that denies being Igbo, should be ignored and forgotten. You can recall the Biblical Israelite tribe which refused to cross the Jordan River, with the rest and opted to remain in Egypt, because they were being favored, while the rest suffered. What happened, un the end? When a new Pharaoh came and became oppressive, they became trapped and then ran Southwards, West Africa - too late to cross the Jordan. It will happen again. Thank you.
This people are saying the truth oba eware the first . history told he lost his two sons after performing some strong reture them introduced a law , that men should not sleep with there wife or cook in the public in a space of time.until he command.because he was so powerfull so meaning indigenous people left.to a far land.
All these grown men are so embarrassing. Even within Ebonyi, Imo, Anambra, they speak different dialect of Igbo. If Ebonyi speak, person from Imo will hardly understand majority of it. All these are dialect within Igbo which included that of Ikwerre dialect.
You are confused Ebonyi, Imo, Anambra are stock igbo dialects with no other references in its vocabulary other than igbo words and phrases. Ikwerre , ika etc contain other words, vocabularies and phrases outside igbo , words pointing to the dialects spoken by aboriginal presettlers which make them non igbo dialects just like itsekiri is with Yoruba or Esan is with Ora and Chinese with japanese dialect. Let the custodians of the heritage conferred with all authority on the heritage speak for themselves and educate you and stop being base narcissists, Have you ever seen a Chinese chasing a Japanese about to call himself Chinese, have you seen or heard before an Esan asking an Ora to become Esan by fire by force ? do you tell or present half truths about your heritage or about who you are or you seek to present and project the full picture ?
@@cryptofxalgorithms You're more confuse entity. Chinese and Japan have some common letters but they do not have general language. Chinese speak Mandarin and Cantonese while Japan speak Japanese. Chinese language and that of Japan, the grammatical rules, pronunciations, and even words are completely different from each other. Chinese language are mainly spoken primarily in China, and Japanese in Japan and they're both written differently. Japan and China do not share a national language. That cannot be said of Ikwerre and the people in the East. Ikwerre are of Igbo dialect. They recognized themselves as Igbo from time memorial. The denier not been Igbo started during Nigeria Biafra war when some Nigeria military disguised as Biafra soldier to invade Ikwerre village and killed a lot of them. That's where the hate and division started. Ikwerre recognize themselves Who say Ebonyi have no other references in it vocabulary? Or are you banking on the generate Igbo language used to write the Bible as a reference to Igbo vocabulary? Ikwerres and Ika speak pure Igbo and they practice the same Igbo culture and tradition with their fellow brother down East. The Igbanke in Edo speak Igbo dialect too.
@@cryptofxalgorithms Your adept writing abilities are commendable. However, it appears that there might be a gap in your understanding of the subject matter, which I find disappointing. Allow me to address your questions. Have you ever had the opportunity to visit any towns in Nsukka or any villages in Ebonyi State? I ask this in order to explore the depth of your firsthand experiences. Regarding the identity of the true Igbos, it is crucial to acknowledge the complexities that arise as cultures evolve over time. While it is true that some towns referred to as Igbo communities today may not speak the Igbo language in a wholly intelligible manner, this does not necessarily negate their Igbo identity. Societal shifts, historical influences, and even generations growing up in diverse environments can contribute to variations in language proficiency within a community. It is essential to recognize that culture, language, and identity are intricate phenomena. They are subject to transformation and adaptation over time and might not always conform to a static ideal. If you have further insights or specific information to share regarding Igbo culture or language, I am here to engage in a meaningful discussion.
This Chief Samson of a person should be ashemed of himself for saying that they were influenced by the Igbo business people that came to sell in Ikwere land then their language was influenced to Igbo language, shame again.
Imagine taking the beautiful Igbo Gods and calling it your own Taking our beautiful Igbo language, bastardize it and calling it yours. Naming your ancestors and founders our beautiful Igbo names. Naming your villages and cities our beautiful Igbo names. Then even stealing our beautiful Igbo cultures and naming it yours. What sort of plagiarism and thievery is going on here?
You are confused, confused with 'Igboismism'. Your Igbo migrant ancestors came in , met some other ethnicities and aboriginals. The language then Fused. So you also have words, names and phrases that are non Igbo as the content though igbo dominant. So from accommodating Igbo migrants , how does it make these groups an Igbo heritage? Presenting the truth it is a mixed heritage and further, they are not and were never ethnic igbos!
@cryptofxalgorithms .. How did the Ikwere people completely lose their Benin identity, to the point that even their ancestors who originated from Benin bore authentic Igbo names, unlike some Igbo towns in the South East today?
I want ask this question why is it that the so called ikwerre has no thing regarding them to be Bine and I want ask them when they are living Bine did they drop there league and all the Bine traditions and come to take igbo traditions even dou they are not igbos they are not to drop all their traditions so let them not deceive them self
Ikwerre is an Igbo clan just like Nkwerre, Igbere, Ngwa at this point nobody is begging Ikwerre to be Igbo again but stop answering our names, remame every town in Ikwerre to Bini towns and start dressing like them, also eat their food. Which kind rubbish propaganda be this
Make u get some shame, respect urself ur own tribe nah. This is the reason ur tribe Igbo has no respect before the hausas Yoruba and and other ethnic groups in Nigeria, unah no get single shame. Wetin bring u come here?
Just check how a whole grown man reasons, it's unbelievable. Here in Europe the ducht have three types of ducht. You have the flanderen and the vries and the real ducht. They all speak ducht in different dilate but they know that they are all ducht. If ikwere feels that they come from Benin to settle in igbo land, they should prepare to go back to Benin and live our land for us.
This are elders who say thesame thing. Why are igbos not speaking hebrew? If you all ask how the ikwerri lose their names and language....... They say they migrated from Benin. if you come to a land that is not yours and are influenced by the surrounding people how can you retain you language and culture.......i have cousins in the north that speak hausa and can't even speak there language now and there children will never speak our language even in this internet time so why do you think this people won't lose there language and culture?
You people are talking like uneducated generation. Lab test for ancestry DNA will clear all these arguments. I am from delta state. My ancestry DNA done in the USA is 58% igbo.38% Benin from my mothers family the rest from Bantus in central/east africa.
Alex British Tasie == let's do the analysis== Alex is a greek name == British is a name of nation none African. == Tasie is an African name, it's igbo. == nothing about the three is bini.
No one is attempting to claim Ikwere. The reality is that the Igbo people firmly believe that they and the Ikwere people belong to the same family and are brothers. Regardless of any actions or statements made by a group of educated individuals or selfish politicians, the Igbo people's conviction remains unshakeable. This is despite the ill-treatment they experienced from their Ikwere brothers after the Nigerian civil war.
I neva see this kain thing before oh..God forbid. Is it not the same thing happening between Nigeria and Biafra? Biafra say we are not Nigerians, Nigeria say una must be Nigerians.😂😂...Make una let us rest oh..
There should not be much argument if Ikwere migrated from Benin which is IGODOMIGO LAND and which Igbo were the occupant of the Land, it is not also in doubt that many Igbo communities migrated back to the East from Benin and Ile ife because of the invasion of the land by ORAMINYAN and his Army, therefore can we say because we ran away from Benin (which is IGODOMIGO) then claimed that we are Benin because they deafeted us in a war?, what shame? What did the Ikwere's has in common with Benin.
Lies and propaganda. Oranmiyan didn't conquered igodomigodo/Benin. Some will says oranmiyan brought war to Benin, there was never a war. It was the Uzamas Elders led by Oliha, that went for a search party to ile ife for the return of their self Exile Prince who later became a ruler in ile ife because he was too old to returned, he now gave his son oranminyan to the Elders for the continuation of the kingship
When I said that there are more educated illiterates in Nigeria people will think is just a joke. Is ochichi a Benin name? Have you people forgotten that the name Benin started during the time the prince of Benin who went on exile to ileife. He became the king of ileife. When his father died and was called to come and take over the thrown of his father. He declined but send his son who was from a yoruba woman to take over his ancestoral thrown. The place was known as Igodomigodo. So Benin was a name changed from Igodomigodo.
The problem with you guys is narcissism . A Yoruba will sit with an Itsekiri and both will entertain themselves with their similarities and differences. so will an Efik and ibibio , Urhobo and itsoko or Chinese and Japanese without qualms. Distinctions delineate us all into different groups or ethnicities simple. Ikwerre dialect for instance is a mix of both igbo dialect and iduoid words and phrases. Certain names point to other lineages other than igbo suggesting igbos moved into or met on ground an actual aboriginal group or clan. Yorubas influenced itsekiri greatly when they moved into their lands that is why itsekiri is a mix of both yoruba and iduoid words , vocabulary and phrases and bear certain non Yoruba names of the actual aboriginals. Understand Ethnicities can be compound and not from a single stock like the nnewi, nsukka or other wholly stock igbos tribes. Simple! una own too dey too much! so should ikwerres tell only a half story of their heritage or paint a half picture of who they are?
I wished you Ikwerres are stable at least, if you people were stable it's would have been better off, but you people were never here or there that is you people's greatest issues 😅😅
The language is ikwerre , not igbo , there are dissimilar words and phrases fused into it with makes it a distinct language . Urhobo is not Itsoko neither is Chinese called Japanes they are two similar but distinct things , so also are the people distinct from the igbo group. one day this matter go tire una. Allow the custodians of the heritage tell their stories for themselves after you ll say the White man emasculated the black man by telling his narrative . so what do you guys think you are doing?
Why silence the voice of others while you let some speak? Are you trying to hide the majority opinions that don't support your falsehood with the loud background music as well? You came from Benin but AKALAKA which means ( DESTINY) in Igbo is your PROGINATOR! Tell us what the name AKALAKA mean in Benin language?????
Ekwerres did not come from anywhere, they are Igbos and they have always been there. All sub Igbo groups in River state like Ikwerre and Anioma in Delta state are indigenes, they did not come from anywhere.
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EDO O' RISI AGBON! OBA GHA TO' KPERE, ISE! I am so impressed with the ways these elders corroborated the assertions of the REAL origin of the Ikwerres.
Iseeeeeh !!!
I so much enjoyed the music coming out from the background, More Grace Oba Ghator kpere Isee
Isee!
These Ikwerre men are truly remarkable, deserving commendation for their efforts in addressing all areas of concern. The Ikwerre identity is now crystal clear, and any attempt to deviate from this is simply an attempt to falsely alter their identity. Since their inception, they have steadfastly maintained their position and successfully resisted all attempts to undermine their strong identity.
I believe that Ikwerre is another Igbo subgroup just like Owerri, Onicha, Nsukka, Ngwa, Mbaise, Orlu, Enugwu, etc. All these Igbo subgroups have different Igbo dialects, as well as Ikwerre. But they understand each other, and are strongly connected by Igbo traditions and culture, especially the four Igbo market days, masquerade, musical instruments, foods, fruits, especially kola nut, yam, coco yam, etc.
I am from delta state..
My DNA done in the USA came out igbo,Benin and Bantus.
58% igbo.38%Benin from my mothers family. Bantus from east/ central africa.Africa.
Lab test will clear all these arguments.
@@nduodiaka-ph9sl Can you see that you are a mess? Who are you? Yeye!!
I can assure you that you are deaf, no sense, devoid of any reasoning, ozuo!!!
@nduodiaka-ph9sl you are not a deltan you went to stay there you are Igbo staying in delta air clear
@@mrrapanpass Abeg comont for road, you are going crazy oooo!!! Jealousy, out of something substantive, is now clouding your brain and you are talking as a liar, akin to a little child! Mumu MAN like you, Shame on you!!!
God bless you for compiling and sharing these videos. Meka!
God bless these men..ikwerre meka!!
We speak english today in Nigeria are we British??
U don't have any single sense in ur brain
We speak English and didn't forget our own language
@@bukati0427 make una rest. It aint happening. Cheers
@@tchituxxfools
African countries speak the languages of their colonizers they learnt from educational institutions but they also speak their tribal languages which they have mastered in their homes from their parents. The elementary test question is why do Nigerians speak English? The answer is because the British was the colonial master of Nigeria. Whereas English is the indigenous language of Britain, do you have an indigenous language that no body can claim as not yours? Think seriously about this question.
I don't care what anybody besides Ikwere and Benin/Edo people says, the Ikwere have the same exact spiritual belief as the Edo/Benin people, and serve their spirituality as the Edo people! BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER, No yawa!!!!!
The Ijaws speak Ijaw and also Igbo. Ex-Prez Jonathan Goodluck, late musician Rex Lawson, Dokubo, Timaya, Ann- Kio Briggs and more speak/spoke Igbo. Even Saro Wiwa an Ogoni man spoke Igbo but spoke his native Ogoni. All ethnic groups spoke their ethnic languages which distinguished them from the Igbos. This must also apply to the Ikwerres. What is the ethnic language that Ikwerre people speak that is different from the Igbo? Besides, why is there hardly any Ikwerre word traceable to the Benin language which were ironclad in their heads during their sojourning?
The ikwerres are ashamed of their actions against their kins - real igbos during the civil war. The guilt is eating them up hence they are now cooking up history to cover their shameful betrayal of their brothers and sisters.
Go back to your teachers asked them one by one, What Ancient Means.
Just your imagination.
No one is attempting to claim Ikwere. The reality is that the Igbo people firmly believe that they and the Ikwere people belong to the same family and are brothers. Regardless of any actions or statements made by a group of educated individuals or selfish politicians, the Igbo people's conviction remains unshakeable. This is despite the ill-treatment they experienced from their Ikwere brothers after the Nigerian civil war.
Of course they are brothers and that is supposed to be the attitude igbos should carry about the whole matter , brother hood simple. Yorubas dont go about stalking and harassing the itsekiris and olukunmis and attempt an imposition over their heritage or call them ethnic Yorubas. A Yoruba Oba will respectably address an olukunmi as an olukunmi and an Itsekiri as an itsekiri. That is the way to celebrate diversity. Sister heritages and cousinhood celebrating each others similarities as well as uniqueness. Simple!
We igbos should leave these people alone we are making them too important lets work on ourselves first
Do you know that the word igbo was formerly known as igbòn. The word Igbo have no meaning, but Igbòn mean slave in Benin
@@Uwadiae8643After Everything bad thing that Benin Kingdom committed since the Existence of the kingdom what have they achieve? After collecting gun's from British and Portuguese to Capture slave's what have they achieve? Many small kingdom from Benin run away from Benin Kingdom and Many rejected Benin Language and anything that associates them with Benin Kingdom, just like Urobo and Even Onucha
According to you if Igbo means slaves the slave or are far better than you and your genation unborn.@@Uwadiae8643
@@uchennavictor9866😂😂😂😂 flathead una no go kee person with laughther. There is absolutely NO ancient civilization that doesn't have a history full of good and bad. The Binis are no different and they are proud of it. At least the they have a history, what did your ancestors achieve?
@Uwadiae8643 you are another cow.
It's difficult to deny who you are, even when you want deny it, your real identity keeps giving you away.
Let Ikwerre be whatever they want to be but who you are will continue to give you away.
One distinctive traits about Igbos is continuous maintenance of clan name anywhere they found themselves.
Many Igbo clan nsmes in other parts of Igbo land still maintains their names in Ikwerre land such as Dioka, Dioga clan, Okpo clan and so on.
To me, let Ikwerre be whatever they want to be.
The problem with you guys is narcissism . A Yoruba will sit with an Itsekiri and both will entertain themselves with their similarities and differences. so will an Efik and ibibio , Urhobo and itsekiri or Chinese and Japanese without qualms. Distinctions delineate us all into different groups or ethnicities simple. Ikwerre dialect for instance is a mix of both igbo dialect and iduoid words and phrases, certain names point to other lineages other than igbo suggesting igbos moved into an aboriginal group or clan. Yorubas influenced itsekiri greatly that is why itsekiri is a mix of both yoruba and iduoid words , vocabulary and phrases and bear certain non Yoruba names . Understand Ethnicities can be compound and not from a single stock like the nnewi, nsukka or other wholly stock igbo tribes.. Simple! una own too dey too much! so should ikwerres tell only a half story of their heritage or paint a half picture of who they are?
@@cryptofxalgorithmsand the problem with you guys is ignorance while claiming knowledge,any one who knows the languages can tell the difference btw itsekiri and Yoruba,or urhobo,now on that premise ,please state the "iduoid " phrases in ikwere that you are talking about,ikwere is a dialect on its own,it has no linguistic similarity with any Edo language,if you were any knowledgeable about ikwere and the Igbo language,you would know it is just a dialect of the broader Igbo language.and Also it is the other way around they (ikwere)moved into an largely Igbo area,not the other way around,there are izon words and phrases in ikwere ,ndoki,andoni and etche , because of proximity but the language structure,syntax and idioms is just igbo.their name for the Igbo(isoma) is actually isuama which is just the name of a single clan in imo, obviously the first people they interacted with inland largely so they used the term to broadly refer to the Igbo,the Igbo language is not a monolith,it is comes in vastly different varieties,an ezzi man cannot understand an abriba .man without speaking the general igbo ,but they are both called Igbo,much less an ikwere man who is fairly intelligible to most imo and abia people who n without an interpreter while they would need one for the ebonyi man..today ikwere is just 4 lgas ,they have the same markers and identifiers as the general Igbo culture,thier name for God,and other deities are same,their market days are. Same ,they break kola in the same way,even thier mothers and great grand mothers and some of their fathers originated from the other "Igbo" people.if all other Igbo were to disappear from the earth today leaving them ,then they would be by default be the Igbos to all and sundry,so this is really a moot and useless argument only for those who are ignorant of the history of the area.unforbately most are therefore the persistent innane argument.nobody is trying to make them Igbo by force ,they are what they are ,if you walk like a duck ,quack like a duck,and your parents were ducks,how are you a swan all of a sudden,they are from Edo right?but nothing of the Edo language or culture remains in the language,no name or identifier, even the ewe in Togo and Ghana still traces of Yoruba,the zamarima and buzu of Niger' and Chad still bear Hausa markers and traces .but the Igbo without war or conquest wiped every trace of bini from ikwere.doesnt that sound strange??
@@obiezedaniels5907please bro don't mind these folks, I just wished they are stable at least but they weren't stable at least
If only they have been speaking their own unique language different from Igbo just like all the ethnic groups in their areas do, then no linguistic issue would have been available for contemplation. Igbos have been asking them not to parade the Igbo language as Bini. Many have wondered why the Ikwerre men like marrying Igbo women who add more to them clinging to Igbo, whereas the marriages from Bini would introduce the missing lingual Bini link. School teaching of the Bini the language would definitely fortify their point of view, frustrating any effort by the Igbos of saying, don not speak my language.
@@obiezedaniels5907
Are Ikwerres and Igbos the only ethnicities in the world that share the same language but are different people?! Do the Austrians not speak German, but are they German? Do the Scots not speak English, but are they English? Do the Welsh not speak English, but are they English? Do the Catalonians not speak Spanish, but are they Spanish? Do the Belgians not speak both French and Dutch, but are they either French or Dutch. I can go on and on!
This phenomenon is very easy and straight forward, it's you folks that make it seem difficult and convoluted.
Remove the music in order to appreciate the speech. The music can be played during the intro and the epilogue
😂😂😂😂😂😂 confuse people you guys shouldn't worry una be Edo bikonu
If trarde goes with language, how did it take igbos to teach you igbo language. Otherwise, ikwere people would have use pigin English as their trading language.
The music overshadowed the conversation
Even if the BENIN was a war Land in those days that course our firefighters to flee to ADO EKITI, but that doesn't change our origin, WE ARE STILL FROM BENIN, this is how our fathers put on ground as our own heritage, we have our own dialect different from Yoruba, but we speak Yoruba as a language, the truth we know it deeply in our mind, group migrated from BENIN SPACE to far way west Africa, BENIN Republic also came to take permission from the palace of BENIN, but the Benins will not talk about it because they don't need you. We know where we origin from is BENIN.
The background music is too loud and annoying that u can barely hear a thing
Akalaka is Igbo name , ogba is also another Igbo words for fence. DNA is easier to verify these claims.
Ochichi, Akalaka and Ihuruoha are all Igbos. Language, culture, name etc are Igbo yet we are still researching o!
The problem with you guys is narcissism . A Yoruba will sit with an Itsekiri and both will entertain themselves with their similarities and differences. so will an Efik and ibibio , Urhobo and itsoko or Chinese and Japanese without qualms. Distinctions delineate us all into different groups or ethnicities simple. Ikwerre dialect for instance is a mix of both igbo dialect and iduoid words and phrase., Certain names point to other lineages other than igbo suggesting igbos moved into or met on ground an aboriginal group or clan. Yorubas influenced itsekiri greatly when they moved into their lands that is why itsekiri is a mix of both yoruba and iduoid words , vocabulary and phrases and bear certain non Yoruba names of the aboriginals. Understand Ethnicities can be compound and not from a single stock like the nnewi, nsukka or other wholly stock igbos tribes. Simple! una own too dey too much! so should ikwerres tell only a half story of their heritage or paint a half picture of who they are?
Be deceiving yourself, I understand an Ikwerre man 100% just as I understand an anambra man, and you’re telling about some useless iduoid words or nonsense you just typed, for me I don’t care if they claim Benin or not, they stole our property during the civil war, if my Igbo brothers and sisters have forgiven and forgotten, I haven’t
What are you still going to researching, skol boy You do not have eyes or hears, confusion killed Una
Science has made this simple. A DNA test will show who are your kits and kins. This argument is not needed.
Do ALL Igbos share a common ancestory? What is an Igbo DNA?
The music voice is too high 😭
Disrupting
Nothing concern ikwerre and Benni we are Igbo. This is a Political criminal history of Nigeria. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
In Benin language Ikwerre mean i will not agree or accept
The ancestral home of Akalaka in Benin is called Ogbe ne-Alaka
If you not no your say I nor no, So that it will be better for you and your household. Binis Empire, Not Igbo empire or even Yoruba via Hausa, But We are one people under divine name of Ancestors. We all are childrens king Solomon king David
Read: songs of Solomon chapters one verses five & Six.
Please switch off this disturbing background music to enable hear what they are saying.
As a child growing up if you can't believe what your father told you you are and you grew up to argue it it miss the school teacher wasted his time filling a can that is made not to resist water.
They said akaraka or akalaka then I asked is it igbo name or bini name
Akalaka is pure Benin language
@godsanointed3397 You're a madman
Why the background music when you're teaching people history? Which one do we listen to? I gave up trying to listen to the interview
Why did not they carry Bini culture and language,but are speaking igbo
You can also ask the real Lagosians, Onitsha,oguta,owo,urhobos the same question
During the invasion of Benin empire the british recruited hausas, yorubas Oyo and igbos Abia, after they succeeded they created the northern region, western region and the Eastern region. In the Eastern region you can't get a job or go to school if you don't have Abia name or speak Abia language. Abia language and names was imposed on every tribe in the Eastern region. The yorubas also tried to do the same thing in the old western region, but the OBA of Benin and the elders understand their evil plans to replace our name and language with Oyo language names. So the Midwest region was created to preserve EDO language traditions and cultur, if not the creation of the Midwest region, by now the Benins would have be speaking yoruba language while deltas will be speaking igbo language.
When was the midwestern region created? Because, we are talking about the history of the ancient world kind of.
You see them still stumbled today for their satanic, and watchraft agenda
What a nonsensical garbage from you! Check the positions held throughout the Eastern region and tell me whether all the positions were occupied by Igbos. In fact, the minority groups in the Eastern region occupied a lot of positions.
You really wrote like a drunk man.
I am an Edo/Benin man, I hear all that the elders and the learned people here are saying, they all have researched history about their affiliation with Benin/Edo. Akalaka, as we still have OGBELAKA in Benin today! I am very joyous that the meaningful people of Ikwere know where they are from, and that is what matters!
All those Igbo insinuations and convolutions are baseless and useless. As long as the MEANINGFUL people who know their history, know where they come from, and who they are, that is what matters infinito!!! Amen to God and our Ancestors, Iseeee!!!!
Akalaka was Igbo , sold as slave to Benin with his brother and revolted , left and came back to Coastal Igbo to establish
What's the meaning of Akalaka?
@@godsanointed3397 some that smallish in nature that always strong and fight. its igbo word
Anthropology is a body of study, a discipline. Anthropological evidences are better than concocted stories. You are who you are QED.
The Jews in America and Germany still identity thier origin. Oga professor you cannot recreate anthropology, history . Amadi, Eke, Wike, Wigwe, Aguma may not be Benin? Ikwerre dropped from heaven, we hear you! WAR, War no goodoo !
These elders why do you indulge yourself with this talk and evil gossips. Tortoise and Lion each have identity whe
Another war may come and Ikwerre will become Yoruba or Fulani who dey for power or cultural global sence!
Elders don't teach us fallacy, body of knowledge is not based on I think, DNA cannot be washed out. The smelling rat smell from the bones.
A people is whom they think they are. This struggles for identity is uncalled for. Biafra will come when we have all die. When bight of Biafra was on Atlas map who complained. This evil gossips and hate was why history study was removed from school curriculum in Nigeria.How far ?
The interview should have been conducted in their mother tongue and language.
Title of dat song abeg
I don't see any special importance the Ikweres are that is worth fighting for. The Binis you claim to originare from don't consider your their brother. They still know you are a Nyamiri.
Nigeria and Britain really deal with igbos because of oil. It won't be well with Britain and Nigeria
In my view , this matter has been too exaggeratingly twisted. This in part due majorly to the narcissistic tendencies of a certain group of people that I wont bother to mention here, not all of them though fortunately but some. Ethnicity is a simple phenomenon of internalizing a uniqueness over time averagely centuries to millennia that gives a people a signature sort of different from other close or relative groups or ethnicities. A Chinese for instance can understand 40 to 60 percent plus or minus of what a Japanese or Korean may speak and often bear similar names, but that does not make a Japanese a Chinese. Ethnicity is about divergencies in lineage /cross lineage , migrations, affiliations /cross affiliations, disputes, wars, dialectic or linguistic deviations in speech forms or distinct tonal and stress patterns of speech , politics, culture /cross culture ,demographic changes etc that create in a group its uniqueness over another or other relative groups over averagely centuries to millennia. You have the Yorubas and the Itsekiris for instance. Only a narcissistic Yoruba will call an Itsekiri a Yoruba and as it stands only a narcissistic Chinese will refer to a korean or Japanese as Chinese. They are referred to in reference to accredited precepts inclusive of the subject being addressed here simply as 'relatives' . Thus a chinese is only a relative of the korean, the Yoruba a relative of the Itsekiri. Thus an ikwerre is only a relative of the Ika man, an Ika a relative of the igbanke , the igbanke himself a relative of both the ikwerre and the igbo etc. Cut and quote this matter is as flat simple as that and any other opinion outside this is objectively narcissistic!
Ibo noise behind
THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL. WHATEVER "IS" WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL. Once you project a false narrative, you have to be on ground to continually re-inforce those false narratives, otherwise those false narratives will continually expose your falsehood. The truth shines like the STARS IN HEAVEN AND NEVER DIMS OR EXTINGUIHSED.
The reason why i knew that people lack wisdom of understanding is that the igbo they talked about have different subgroups. Then who will tell me the group that is the main igbo? I want to know the people that are the original igbo. If you reach anambra you see difference dialect, the same to abia
Some Bonnie people are igbo
IKWERRE DNA is IGBO. Bini DNA IS Yoruba. Nigeria causing confusion bcos of oil
So, their father's failed to tell them who they are??
Igbo people were invaded by their neighbors(Bini) and sacked out of their land. Their ancestral land was taken over by the Bini people while they found another land elsewhere and settled. These are Igbo people (Ikwerre)!!
If you want us to hear them why playing music?
Onitsha, oguta people claim Benin, ancestry, biafrans are not perturbed because they are been captured and assimilated . Recently, the biafrans have discovered that their lands have been exhausted now they are desperately looking for new lands that's why they looking for other people's land to acquire. As for the Ikwere people, they know it's only option to the sea that's why the urge to quickly capture them by the biafrans.
Ochichi and akalaka from Benin. Those names sound like igbo in origin.
Akalaka means destiny lines on your palm.
Ikweres are confused people
Very sad hearing how the Igbo manipulated and psychologically forced the Ikwere people to start speaking Igbo. These Igbos, behavior is so open as such up till today. This is the major reason for the Biafra war. Ahmedu Bello saw this coming to the North and immediately had them pack and move from the Northern area!!!! He described the Igbo as cockroaches given access, will occupy the entire space.....Ahmedu Bello!!!!
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Edo people does have any relationship with Ikwere .It is embarrassing to see old men lying and confusing their youths. Tell us where you resemble the Orayamiyos? Is masquerade , market days, names, festivals and etc.Tell the world where you resemble the bini?.Even bini (Igodomigodo) is from Nsukka.
These people are risking Fulani claiming that land.
Nobody is called Ikwere but Iweoha. England gave you the name Ikwere during slave trade.
I am really ashamed of you guys.
I am equally more ashamed of you igboismisits trying to steal other peoples heritage through lies! Igbo migrants who were accommodated in these parts met other ethnicities and aboriginals in these parts. The language only fused. The dialect has rich amounts of words and phrases not found in igbo as well as other names not Igbo in origin as with the influence of Yoruba dialect on Itsekiri. Accommodating igbo migrants does not make them an Igbo heritage. They know who they are. They are not ethnic igbos!
Ikwerres have no single bini word in their language but every word in ikwerre language is igbo word.
Ikwerres , are they better than igbos in any ramifications in nigeria today? Wow! What a group of deceptive elders of ikwerre.
I am not in anyways disputing these facts but my question is do Benin kingdom bear Igbo names or speak Igbo language? How did the Ikwerre people speak Igbo and not Benin???
Very easy, the Oba of Lagos and all the Royals in Lagos claimed that they migrated from Bini, but all bearing Yoruba names and don,t speak the Bini language, but royal titles like Iyase, Oba or Alake.
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Your logic is weak.
Ikwerre are Igbo by origin.
The Igbanke who're currently in Benin speak Igbo and they're Igbo.
Same way the Igbos don't speak Hebrew and Arabic being the official language of the Israeli people.... Make una rest abeg. 😢😢😢
@@kimberlymarion7447 Every human being originated in Africa but today you have Asians, Europeans, Africans, etc. The obas of Lagos ancestors from Benin are minorities as you say met Yorubas majority culture that is why he speaks Yoruba. All the ex slaves that settled in lagos were absord by Yoruba majorities. They married Yorubas and do everything that Yorubas do. What is the culture of all those Benin and ex slaves in lagos today - all are Yorubas cultured.
Whatever you say about ikwerre, bonny city, etc, today the majority are of Igbo culture with ikwerre as Igbo other Igbo.
The main root of this issue is simple. It is rooted in the narcissisms of many igbos, a Yoruba will sit with an Itsekiri and both will enjoy and entertain themselves with their similarities and differences without any qualms. A chinese wil do similar with a Japanese. A narcissist igbo doesnt want to hear ikwerre , ika , igbanke etc he is only interested in hearing igbo. The explanation is igbos moved a lot and moved to locations where they even outnumbered the aboriginals. Just like japanese and itsekiri which are of compound vocabularies , chinese and aboriginal dialects for the Japanes and yoruba and iduoid vocabularies and dialects for itsekiris , the ika , ikwere , igbanke languages have dissimilar words and phrases pointing to the aboriginal dialect the moving igbos met. Fast track centuries these ethnicities are unique in that they are not solely igboid but both igboid and iduoid. Their lineages are also not solely igboid but igboid and iduoid. Simple thing but not so with narcissistic igbos. They are so objectively narcissistic they dont even want to allow the custodians of these heritages tell of their compound lineages and heritages and wont rest until they make mention of igbo.
When the old men lies to the new generations
If the two brothers who migrated from benin, there names were ochichi and akalaka. The two names were Igbo names. It wasn't Benin names. So it is crystal clear that the Igbo brothers left Igboland and went to Benin.
Bonny always has two languages Igbo And Ijaw. German Koelle came to bonny and as bonny town were speaking Igbo mainly but finima was speaking another Language, he classifieds that language as Ibani. In fact Ubani is what the Igbo speakers called themselves as ikwerre called themselves ikwerre or ohruoha. Ikwerre union also owerri union, onitsha union, oka union, mbasie union, etc.
You're not making sense, keep quiet.
@@raphaelsackeyjaja3697 Are😂 you related to that ogene musician Jaja?
@@raphaelsackeyjaja3697 Oxymoronic certified peddler.
@@raphaelsackeyjaja3697 Trying reading colonial records and documents on bonny and Ikewerre from the 16th century onwards. The one name I gave is a refrence you can use for a start.
Education 😂 is your answer.
@@knwaoke6193
Are the Ibani and Ikwerre Igbo by origin and speaking different dialect of Igbo?
Is only in Nigeria that someone lost his or her languages and names 🤣🤣🤣
Stop Ibo music behind ikwere People
if ikwere are from bini why dont they speak bini language or dialect. how come they is little or no resemblance in their traditions.
African man with the name Alex British Tasie how can you know your origin when you have lost your name
Why would Igbo want to own the 3 Ikwerre lgas? Politically Ikwere are in river state. So political and geopolitics associations are different to ethnicities. Germans are in Germany, France, Austria, Switzerland, etc. Likewise Igbo are in Ebonyi, Enugu, Abia, Imo, Anambra, delta, rivers, etc.
Why are Ikwerre always scared almost as if some people will tell them leave river state or claim river state from them?
0kirika, kalabari both claim to be Ijaws and yet they are both in River state?
Yes, because you guys don,t want to accept their history, is like forcing them to be Igbos.
@@kimberlymarion7447 Define all what is Igbo? When was Nigeria created compared to Igbo?
@@kimberlymarion7447
You're everywhere talking rubbish.
Once again, Ikwerre are Igbo and the Igbankes currently in Benin are Igbos.
@@Southernview3kdon't mind these people, they know where they came from but keep denying igboness.
@@kimberlymarion7447but they speak my Igbo Yoruba is Yoruba so if you speak Igbo you are Igbo
I still wonder how a people language,culture, way of worship can change, just because of trade it makes little or no sense to any rational being. Let us think deeper umu Nne ...and stop making mockery of our selfs
Yeah, same way people's Language, Culture and Traditions changed many years ago from Israel to Igbo.
And even skin complexions and hair texture change from that of a white to a black Man's. Even continent Changed from Asia to Africa 😂😂😂 indeed you are very funny
Itshikiri are not Yoruba but they speak similar to the Yoruba and they will tell you they migrated from Benin empire and they bear corrupt Yoruba names mostly so how is it different with the ikwerre ?
Itshikiri where influenced by the Yorubas who migrated there and bini language itself is very difficult to understand or speak if you are not born or raise speak the language and that's why the language is dying even in Edo state
When the ‘unwise’ old man said that his ancestor, Akslaka and his brother mrsn aeay from Benin, when tg were ruling Oba became tyrannical, he is not saying their Benin names. What about Ighodaro or Omoregie. If they were, actually, Benin people, what were their original names, before they changed it to Alalaka, which is a very serious Igbo word or noun. What language or culture did they migrate with. It is gross ignorance, to associate Ikwere people with Benin. The fact that they had Igbo names and, came from Benin, means that they were Igbos, living under the Obas dominance. After there are Igbos in that geographical enclave. There could have been a sprinkle of Benin people and, they have every right to claim Benin, but should not drag others with them. The same ‘unwise’ old man is not saying the name they were answering, when they cane from Benin. It is a shame! He doesn’t even know that Ikwere is not even their real name. One of their progenitors, Elechi Amadi, wrote one of the best books on Igbo culture, but made a 90% turn, at some point of the Civil War and after the Civil War, out of un order to please his new found masters and out of shame and embarrassment of his treachery and betrayal of his brothers and intellectual colleague. The ‘unwise’ old man should say even one Bini word, that can ve found in either the Ikwere language or culture. If not, that makes him a veast of no nation. My strong feeling is that, anybody that denies being Igbo, should be ignored and forgotten. You can recall the Biblical Israelite tribe which refused to cross the Jordan River, with the rest and opted to remain in Egypt, because they were being favored, while the rest suffered. What happened, un the end? When a new Pharaoh came and became oppressive, they became trapped and then ran Southwards, West Africa - too late to cross the Jordan. It will happen again.
Thank you.
This people are saying the truth oba eware the first . history told he lost his two sons after performing some strong reture them introduced a law , that men should not sleep with there wife or cook in the public in a space of time.until he command.because he was so powerfull so meaning indigenous people left.to a far land.
All these grown men are so embarrassing.
Even within Ebonyi, Imo, Anambra, they speak different dialect of Igbo. If Ebonyi speak, person from Imo will hardly understand majority of it.
All these are dialect within Igbo which included that of Ikwerre dialect.
You are confused Ebonyi, Imo, Anambra are stock igbo dialects with no other references in its vocabulary other than igbo words and phrases. Ikwerre , ika etc contain other words, vocabularies and phrases outside igbo , words pointing to the dialects spoken by aboriginal presettlers which make them non igbo dialects just like itsekiri is with Yoruba or Esan is with Ora and Chinese with japanese dialect. Let the custodians of the heritage conferred with all authority on the heritage speak for themselves and educate you and stop being base narcissists, Have you ever seen a Chinese chasing a Japanese about to call himself Chinese, have you seen or heard before an Esan asking an Ora to become Esan by fire by force ? do you tell or present half truths about your heritage or about who you are or you seek to present and project the full picture ?
@@cryptofxalgorithms
You're more confuse entity.
Chinese and Japan have some common letters but they do not have general language. Chinese speak Mandarin and Cantonese while Japan speak Japanese. Chinese language and that of Japan, the grammatical rules, pronunciations, and even words are completely different from each other.
Chinese language are mainly spoken primarily in China, and Japanese in Japan and they're both written differently.
Japan and China do not share a national language.
That cannot be said of Ikwerre and the people in the East. Ikwerre are of Igbo dialect. They recognized themselves as Igbo from time memorial.
The denier not been Igbo started during Nigeria Biafra war when some Nigeria military disguised as Biafra soldier to invade Ikwerre village and killed a lot of them. That's where the hate and division started. Ikwerre recognize themselves
Who say Ebonyi have no other references in it vocabulary? Or are you banking on the generate Igbo language used to write the Bible as a reference to Igbo vocabulary?
Ikwerres and Ika speak pure Igbo and they practice the same Igbo culture and tradition with their fellow brother down East.
The Igbanke in Edo speak Igbo dialect too.
@@cryptofxalgorithms
Your adept writing abilities are commendable. However, it appears that there might be a gap in your understanding of the subject matter, which I find disappointing. Allow me to address your questions. Have you ever had the opportunity to visit any towns in Nsukka or any villages in Ebonyi State? I ask this in order to explore the depth of your firsthand experiences.
Regarding the identity of the true Igbos, it is crucial to acknowledge the complexities that arise as cultures evolve over time. While it is true that some towns referred to as Igbo communities today may not speak the Igbo language in a wholly intelligible manner, this does not necessarily negate their Igbo identity. Societal shifts, historical influences, and even generations growing up in diverse environments can contribute to variations in language proficiency within a community.
It is essential to recognize that culture, language, and identity are intricate phenomena. They are subject to transformation and adaptation over time and might not always conform to a static ideal. If you have further insights or specific information to share regarding Igbo culture or language, I am here to engage in a meaningful discussion.
This Chief Samson of a person should be ashemed of himself for saying that they were influenced by the Igbo business people that came to sell in Ikwere land then their language was influenced to Igbo language, shame again.
Did the Igbo people force their gods on you as well? Confused elders
That same in Benin sir , you can have sex in the bush all are same in Benin kingdom
My friend can you control your music next time, is disturbing
Imagine taking the beautiful Igbo Gods and calling it your own
Taking our beautiful Igbo language, bastardize it and calling it yours.
Naming your ancestors and founders our beautiful Igbo names.
Naming your villages and cities our beautiful Igbo names.
Then even stealing our beautiful Igbo cultures and naming it yours.
What sort of plagiarism and thievery is going on here?
You are confused, confused with 'Igboismism'. Your Igbo migrant ancestors came in , met some other ethnicities and aboriginals. The language then Fused. So you also have words, names and phrases that are non Igbo as the content though igbo dominant. So from accommodating Igbo migrants , how does it make these groups an Igbo heritage? Presenting the truth it is a mixed heritage and further, they are not and were never ethnic igbos!
@cryptofxalgorithms ..
How did the Ikwere people completely lose their Benin identity, to the point that even their ancestors who originated from Benin bore authentic Igbo names, unlike some Igbo towns in the South East today?
I want ask this question why is it that the so called ikwerre has no thing regarding them to be Bine and I want ask them when they are living Bine did they drop there league and all the Bine traditions and come to take igbo traditions even dou they are not igbos they are not to drop all their traditions so let them not deceive them self
They see Igbo as one people 😂
Igbo is an ethnicity
Ikwerre is an Igbo clan just like Nkwerre, Igbere, Ngwa at this point nobody is begging Ikwerre to be Igbo again but stop answering our names, remame every town in Ikwerre to Bini towns and start dressing like them, also eat their food. Which kind rubbish propaganda be this
I don't think those people know their real story. Anything in common or similarity within them and the benin
FUNNY ENOUGH THEY BEAR IGBO NAMES
Make u get some shame, respect urself ur own tribe nah. This is the reason ur tribe Igbo has no respect before the hausas Yoruba and and other ethnic groups in Nigeria, unah no get single shame. Wetin bring u come here?
@@emmanueljala3646
I wonder what offended you.
Ikwerres are Igbo.
@@Southernview3k continue to disgrace urself 🤣🤣 ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️
@@Southernview3k no go run mad o🤣🤣🤣
@@emmanueljala3646
You finally deleted your nonsense comment. Please be civil next time
simple ancestry DNA will settle all these arguments.
Just check how a whole grown man reasons, it's unbelievable. Here in Europe the ducht have three types of ducht. You have the flanderen and the vries and the real ducht. They all speak ducht in different dilate but they know that they are all ducht. If ikwere feels that they come from Benin to settle in igbo land, they should prepare to go back to Benin and live our land for us.
To settle in igboland? Hahahahaha
This people will do anything..
Where do igbos originate from?
You are right my dear
You are right my dear
Question answer it yourself
This are elders who say thesame thing.
Why are igbos not speaking hebrew? If you all ask how the ikwerri lose their names and language.......
They say they migrated from Benin. if you come to a land that is not yours and are influenced by the surrounding people how can you retain you language and culture.......i have cousins in the north that speak hausa and can't even speak there language now and there children will never speak our language even in this internet time so why do you think this people won't lose there language and culture?
The Igbo does not have any taboos, not even close to the ones the Ikwere have!!! The Igbos do all these taboos being described here without any moral!
My advice to human being don't waste your time arguing with Igbo just look for a parrot to do the argument
You people are talking like uneducated generation.
Lab test for ancestry DNA will clear all these arguments.
I am from delta state.
My ancestry DNA done in the USA is 58% igbo.38% Benin from my mothers family the rest from Bantus in central/east africa.
Alex British Tasie == let's do the analysis== Alex is a greek name == British is a name of nation none African. == Tasie is an African name, it's igbo. == nothing about the three is bini.
Igbos are so desperate to claim ikwerre God forbid u na big eye too much
No one is attempting to claim Ikwere. The reality is that the Igbo people firmly believe that they and the Ikwere people belong to the same family and are brothers. Regardless of any actions or statements made by a group of educated individuals or selfish politicians, the Igbo people's conviction remains unshakeable. This is despite the ill-treatment they experienced from their Ikwere brothers after the Nigerian civil war.
I neva see this kain thing before oh..God forbid. Is it not the same thing happening between Nigeria and Biafra?
Biafra say we are not Nigerians, Nigeria say una must be Nigerians.😂😂...Make una let us rest oh..
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There should not be much argument if Ikwere migrated from Benin which is IGODOMIGO LAND and which Igbo were the occupant of the Land, it is not also in doubt that many Igbo communities migrated back to the East from Benin and Ile ife because of the invasion of the land by ORAMINYAN and his Army, therefore can we say because we ran away from Benin (which is IGODOMIGO) then claimed that we are Benin because they deafeted us in a war?, what shame? What did the Ikwere's has in common with Benin.
Lies and propaganda. Oranmiyan didn't conquered igodomigodo/Benin. Some will says oranmiyan brought war to Benin, there was never a war. It was the Uzamas Elders led by Oliha, that went for a search party to ile ife for the return of their self Exile Prince who later became a ruler in ile ife because he was too old to returned, he now gave his son oranminyan to the Elders for the continuation of the kingship
When I said that there are more educated illiterates in Nigeria people will think is just a joke. Is ochichi a Benin name? Have you people forgotten that the name Benin started during the time the prince of Benin who went on exile to ileife. He became the king of ileife. When his father died and was called to come and take over the thrown of his father. He declined but send his son who was from a yoruba woman to take over his ancestoral thrown. The place was known as Igodomigodo. So Benin was a name changed from Igodomigodo.
Yeah, a look into the mirror will reveal to you the Educated Illiterate...😅
The problem with you guys is narcissism . A Yoruba will sit with an Itsekiri and both will entertain themselves with their similarities and differences. so will an Efik and ibibio , Urhobo and itsoko or Chinese and Japanese without qualms. Distinctions delineate us all into different groups or ethnicities simple. Ikwerre dialect for instance is a mix of both igbo dialect and iduoid words and phrases. Certain names point to other lineages other than igbo suggesting igbos moved into or met on ground an actual aboriginal group or clan. Yorubas influenced itsekiri greatly when they moved into their lands that is why itsekiri is a mix of both yoruba and iduoid words , vocabulary and phrases and bear certain non Yoruba names of the actual aboriginals. Understand Ethnicities can be compound and not from a single stock like the nnewi, nsukka or other wholly stock igbos tribes. Simple! una own too dey too much! so should ikwerres tell only a half story of their heritage or paint a half picture of who they are?
We.really have such fools and educated illiterates in our Igbo land it's a shame. Why are the not called obaseki
I wished you Ikwerres are stable at least, if you people were stable it's would have been better off, but you people were never here or there that is you people's greatest issues 😅😅
How can dis people clam to be Benin Wen Dy speak igbo abeg dey are igbo
The language is ikwerre , not igbo , there are dissimilar words and phrases fused into it with makes it a distinct language . Urhobo is not Itsoko neither is Chinese called Japanes they are two similar but distinct things , so also are the people distinct from the igbo group. one day this matter go tire una. Allow the custodians of the heritage tell their stories for themselves after you ll say the White man emasculated the black man by telling his narrative . so what do you guys think you are doing?
Excess of ignorance and illiteracy
@@HyacinthUnaegbu-g3bu go cry tire..We are no igbos..
Why don't the igbo speak hebrew or practice what the hebrews practice
Why silence the voice of others while you let some speak? Are you trying to hide the majority opinions that don't support your falsehood with the loud background music as well? You came from Benin but AKALAKA which means ( DESTINY) in Igbo is your PROGINATOR! Tell us what the name AKALAKA mean in Benin language?????
this people are confuse
They're not
Ekwerres did not come from anywhere, they are Igbos and they have always been there.
All sub Igbo groups in River state like Ikwerre and Anioma in Delta state are indigenes, they did not come from anywhere.
They are not igbo. Your history says that you migrated from Israel 🇮🇱