@@christiancharles2689 But when’s the last time the Indians won a world title? They blew 3-1 to Chicago in 2016 and a 2-0 lead to the yankees in 2017. Thats sad lol
+Zach Eisenhour It was just one play. As a long time Indians fan they're one of the more consistently unbiased announcers to listen to when comparing it to the other stations I get to watch baseball on. Both sides can be argued for in this case just depends on what your definition of instigation is. But seeing as they're Cleveland announcers it's pretty obvious they're going to stick up for their own team unless they're clearly in the wrong.
Anna V. Yup he waited an awfully long time to flip his bat and they called him out on it. Although over in Japan from what I've seen (or maybe it's just one team/player) flipping your bat is pretty common. Which is why I love watching them. The only time they show their bias is when a walk-off is involved for either team. They'll get excited for the Tribe and kinda ho-hum for the other team. Other than that they give props where props are due and show just as much enthusiasm for spectacular plays no matter who makes them.
Sheff was always a cry baby, don’t charge the mound if can’t scrap. Sheff always ran his mouth his entire career but we found out he was all bark and no bite.
According to Sheffield, that pitcher had been hitting him every time at bat since he had homered off of him in a previous game. Gary was tired of being hit by him.
Just heard that interview too. And even then, he didn't do anything until the throw to first. Regardless of what you think about whether or not the pitch was intentional, the throw to first definitely was, and the throw to first is what started the fight.
"That pitcher had been hitting him every time at bat..." This is the sort of thing that could be proven / disproven with a little research. Bring that to the table and we can talk about it.
@ bro i know goodfellas and I know damn well that reminds me of spider.
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@@jacobrichardson1952 evidently not because the waiter that was afraid to bring Pesci the bill was a completely different scene then the scenes Spider was in.
"All of this instigated completely by Sheffield" Sure, he didn't have to be so obviously upset about being hit but he did go to first base and it was over. Until the pitcher threw over to first in an aggressive fashion.. There's no reason to throw over at a 39 year old DH other than to be a dick. If Sheffield just trotted to first with no issue, he doesn't throw over to first. He obviously did that to piss him off. So no, not completely instigated by Sheff.
Sheff has ALWAYS been a hothead. Look at how many fights the guys been in. My bet is he's been in the most fights in all of baseball of all time. A complete jerk.
I love how this stuff is accepted in baseball but the minute that an NBA fight breaks out the commentators act like guys are bringing guns and knives 2 the court
We all know why he threw to first ... especially at that speed. Cmon .. stop trying to act like carmona wasn't trying to start sht. He could have easily stepped out the mound instead of throwing to first. Sheffield ain't going to steal 2nd base, cmon corny ass broadcasters!
@@kimnora53 I know this was three years ago and I'm just now replying but I was meaning. Martinez was on the Indians at this time of the video and Cabrera being on tigers went and calmed Martinez down. And he still did that when they were on the same team prolly cause they speak primarily spanish and good friends.
Please Go think he means financially. Fans had left by then considering cheap ass Dolan won't pay stars to stay, and same applies to cavs. And browns were browns
I always loved how Sheffield swung the bat - maximun ferocity. I even liked him when he was in the downside with my Mets. That guy was throwing at him - for sure. I don't blame Sheff for going at him.
SlimShady9000Mac Phillies announcers couldn't say "Roberto" while he was here, so he's fondly remembered by what they did call him: "Rubber Toe" Hernandez
Love the way the latinoamerica guys inmediately look for the other guys from overseas to keep them out of the problem even if they are in the other team and are from different country. You see Placido Polanco keeping Victor Martinez, and Maglio Ordonez keeping Fausto Carmona...
Sheffield cost himself a shot at history, when he was suspended for the rest of the season, it caused him a shot at 500 homers,he was at 499,he had to wait until next season and a new team, the New York Mets, to get #500.
...its good carmona didnt back down but i pitched in h.s. and a bit in college, and i always felt i had a safety obligation to the hitter, meaning: if i didnt feel or sure , 100 percent, it was going to do what i wanted it to do, i abandonned it, and threw it another direction, and didnt throw it, i think carmona wasnt 100 percent sure that ball was going to do what he wanted it to do ...before he chucked it.
This was instigated by Sheffield. Carmona was ahead in the count (0-1). It was still a close game and in the late innings. There's no way Carmona hit him on purpose.
+Brandon Burns Sheffield did nothing to show him up. He glared at him because he just got hit. Sheffield wasn't going to steal and he barely had a time to even get a lead, yet Carmona thows over ???
Now you know why Gary Sheffield won't be in the hall. Always had an attitude, ego, thought he was tough and a huge racist. You'll NEVER be in the hall because of it.
I find it interesting how biased the commentators are. They blame Sheffield because he spoke to Carmona, yet Carmona yells at Sheffield and when they run at each other they meet closer to first base than the mound and it's Carmons who swings the first punch after running over ready to swing.
You never played if you blame that entirely or even mostly on Sheffield! Carmona started it by firing to first as hard as he did, and you can't know if he hit Sheffield on purpose without asking him, this is the majors and pitchers have a pretty good idea of what they are doing
You can tell Sheffield is crazy. Hernandez (Carmona) is a thick 6'4. He took an asswhooping. Only way he could be stupider if he tried to fight Sabathia.
Sheffield is also 12 years OLDER than them. A 40 year man is NEVER going to be afraid of some 20- or 30- something, he wouldn't of cared if he was 7 foot 4 inches and 400 lbs, the older guy is going to do something about it. He may not win all the time, but the guy ISN'T going to back down. Hes 12 years older!!! That's like a 12th grader backing down from a fight with a kindergartner.
Im a huge sheffield fan and agreed with everything he did here up until the pick off. The middle infield is my target and when I cross the mound, let's see what he has to say then
I'm a Tribe fan, but Fausto clearly started it, also, MLB wasn't ready for Sheff. Night in and night out he was called an instigator, unruly, short tempered... truth is/was Sheff was an OG and he wasn't taking crap from anyone.
1:30 Matt Joyce on the ground but nobody's paying attention to him.. They not ever tryna get him.. He might as well been in Left field in the fetal position while everyone fight it out in the mound
eso es parte del show, es algo muy facil de resolver, multas y sanciones seberas para todo el que intervenga,........eso se puede evitar, sin embargo no lo evitan, pasan decadas y decadas y sigue igual.
Look at Victor Martinez and Miguel Cabrera, interesting they were future teammates with the Detroit Tigers who went at it after a brawl against the Yankees were Martinez was caught talking and smiling with a Yankee during that brawl.
People try to break down “who’s at fault” in baseball brawls far too much. This is just baseball. Emotions run high and people fight. It’s the way it’s supposed to be.
I miss this rivalry so bad. Cleveland vs Detroit. Two rough cities. Two great teams in the late 2000s early 2010s
Hated these teams cause they beat my yankees in the playoffs 2006-2007.
@@theman6705 good I hate the Yankees. Yes my Indians beat yanks in 2007 but Yankees beat us in 2017 and 2020. Oh yeah we won in 1997 also.
@@christiancharles2689 But when’s the last time the Indians won a world title? They blew 3-1 to Chicago in 2016 and a 2-0 lead to the yankees in 2017. Thats sad lol
@@theman6705 Why are mad about 2007 when u have 2017? 1948 the last time unfortunately.
@@theman6705 don't hate my team. I have a reason to hate yours 🤣
Commentator: “Carmona was simply reading his bible when Sheffield started the day whole thing”
Hahahaha great comment. These reporters are stupid
Commentator Idiot
Lol hate home team announcers
😂
Fantastic
“Fausto Carmona was volunteering at an orphanage/soup kitchen/animal shelter when Sheffield instigated the whole thing.”
Carmona was helping a disabled veteran cross the street when he was charged by Sheffield.
Don't you just love how neutral and unbiased these commentators are?
Zach Eisenhour Um, this was from Cleveland TV. find the Tigers broadcast for the other side.
+Zach Eisenhour It was just one play. As a long time Indians fan they're one of the more consistently unbiased announcers to listen to when comparing it to the other stations I get to watch baseball on. Both sides can be argued for in this case just depends on what your definition of instigation is. But seeing as they're Cleveland announcers it's pretty obvious they're going to stick up for their own team unless they're clearly in the wrong.
+Matticus1229 very true. Remember the bat flip of Ramirez? Even they were saying he was wrong to do that.
Anna V. Yup he waited an awfully long time to flip his bat and they called him out on it. Although over in Japan from what I've seen (or maybe it's just one team/player) flipping your bat is pretty common. Which is why I love watching them. The only time they show their bias is when a walk-off is involved for either team. They'll get excited for the Tribe and kinda ho-hum for the other team. Other than that they give props where props are due and show just as much enthusiasm for spectacular plays no matter who makes them.
I'm amazed at how many of you took offense to that comment.
"It's not intentional....". Right. Fausto had plunked him EVERY TIME he faced him since Sheffield had gone yard on him.
I was just thinking about how the announcer doesn't know what he's talking about. Thanks for adding more context
Then he tried to pick him off like Sheffield was actually gonna steal!
Sheff was always a cry baby, don’t charge the mound if can’t scrap. Sheff always ran his mouth his entire career but we found out he was all bark and no bite.
@@captainkev10 Indians were beating the tigers.
Who is Fausto?
Ah Yes, the pitcher formerly known as Fausto Carmona
Pretty ballsy of him to change his name to the Latino version of "Faust" when he sold his soul for a new identity.
Cody W who?
0531jos your comment is actually brilliant, it just way over the head of most TH-cam users.
Kenneth Busler explain please
Joel T and a fake name
According to Sheffield, that pitcher had been hitting him every time at bat since he had homered off of him in a previous game. Gary was tired of being hit by him.
Just heard that interview too. And even then, he didn't do anything until the throw to first. Regardless of what you think about whether or not the pitch was intentional, the throw to first definitely was, and the throw to first is what started the fight.
Jarekx2007 You are correct!
Tim Green I heard the same thing on the Lebatard show today. The throw to first is what started it
Aggie85 Me too!
"That pitcher had been hitting him every time at bat..."
This is the sort of thing that could be proven / disproven with a little research. Bring that to the table and we can talk about it.
lol the bat boy looks scared as fuck of Sheffield.
I mean, I would be scared if my guy kept getting hit by the same pitcher just because he went yard on him. I would be fuming if I was Gary
the Bat Boy reminded me of the waiter in Goodfellas scared to give Pesci the Bill.
Spider
@@jacobrichardson1952 nah watch the movie again
@ bro i know goodfellas and I know damn well that reminds me of spider.
@@jacobrichardson1952 evidently not because the waiter that was afraid to bring Pesci the bill was a completely different scene then the scenes Spider was in.
@
Correct. Spider actually mouthed off to Pesci. That’s why he got killed.
The waiter got a drink thrown at him.
lol that bat boy was about to shit his pants
yellowlabs619 Gary Sheffiel was just big mouth, he got his ass kicked.
"All of this instigated completely by Sheffield"
Sure, he didn't have to be so obviously upset about being hit but he did go to first base and it was over. Until the pitcher threw over to first in an aggressive fashion.. There's no reason to throw over at a 39 year old DH other than to be a dick. If Sheffield just trotted to first with no issue, he doesn't throw over to first. He obviously did that to piss him off. So no, not completely instigated by Sheff.
Sheff has ALWAYS been a hothead. Look at how many fights the guys been in. My bet is he's been in the most fights in all of baseball of all time. A complete jerk.
If someone walked to first glaring at me the whole time carrying his bat I would throw to first too just to show I wasn’t intimidated by him.
@@andrewdwyer2456 The point is, that act is instigating and the comment that it was "instigated COMPLETELY by Sheffield" is just untrue.
jayjayjames2332 I mean I guess lol. I’m an Indians fan just like these announcers so coming from a slightly biased perspective
mkdzr72 ray knight, most fights
Rip Andy Marte #15
Cabrera was telling VMart to cool it....."We'll be teammates in a couple of years".
Boy oh boy. If Belle and Rameriz and Murray was still there, it'll be a fucking bloodbath.
Facts man
I love how this stuff is accepted in baseball but the minute that an NBA fight breaks out the commentators act like guys are bringing guns and knives 2 the court
Commentator: Carmona was feeding baby bunnies 🐰 when Sheffield started the whole thing.
"completely instigated by Sheffield"...lol ok
Gary Sheffield started the whole thing by starting a bench-clearing brawl.
gary sheffield started the whole thing by starting it
@@ericdelgado4252Gary Sheffield started the whole thing by starting to start the whole thing that he started from the start.
The picture actually instigated it all because he couldn’t handle getting hommered off of. He had hit Sheffield in every bat after that.
I loved how the Cleveland Indians backed each other up ... good for them 👍
We all know why he threw to first ... especially at that speed. Cmon .. stop trying to act like carmona wasn't trying to start sht. He could have easily stepped out the mound instead of throwing to first. Sheffield ain't going to steal 2nd base, cmon corny ass broadcasters!
Those are paid Indians broadcasters
Facts
GARY. SHEFFIELD. WAS. STILL. A. THREAT. STILL. AT. TIME. STILL . THE. PITCHER. AND. OPPOSITION. HAS. TO. HONOR. THAT . >🎤
1:26 - RIP Andy Marte
it's funny how Cabrera took charge of Martinez when he was on Cleveland and now he takes charge of him when he's on Tigers XD
Cabrera played for the Indians?
@@kimnora53 well Orlando Cabrera played the Indians and Asdrubal Cabrera but not Miguel Cabrera.
You like that?
@@kimnora53 I know this was three years ago and I'm just now replying but I was meaning. Martinez was on the Indians at this time of the video and Cabrera being on tigers went and calmed Martinez down. And he still did that when they were on the same team prolly cause they speak primarily spanish and good friends.
@@jacobrichardson1952 .
Gary was always a real G! Respect. 💯
yeah one of my favorites
The Cobra taught him toughness
Lol
Sheff was a punk
@@christopheryasus3666 Both should be in the HOF
If looks could kill Gary would have taken a cat's nine lives with that stare.
Sheffield would be the last guy I’d ever throw at.
I would never throw at frank Thomas just because he's so big
It it weren’t for baseball, a face like Sheffield would be the last thing one would see if you owed too much money to the wrong person.
@@robertoswald1112 You must don’t know where Gary grew up. East Tampa ain’t no joke
Pedro did. Sheffield’s a fightable guy
Why? Just saw carmona Own him
Fausto did Sheffield like Nolan did Ventura
He did but didn't get in as many hits
Are you sure this was 2008? It looks like 1988
WesleyAPEX Budget was low back then, ok. it's Cleveland in 2008. we were shit. 😂
Please Go think he means financially. Fans had left by then considering cheap ass Dolan won't pay stars to stay, and same applies to cavs. And browns were browns
Gilbert broke the bank to help the Cavs win it all. I'm assuming you mean before 2014
This is clevland content soo...
Damn found an old comment by Wesley xD
I always loved how Sheffield swung the bat - maximun ferocity. I even liked him when he was in the downside with my Mets. That guy was throwing at him - for sure. I don't blame Sheff for going at him.
We need Jomboy for this one.
I do remember watching this live... and as a Cleveland fan I will say Fausto was playing dirty that game. He knocked Sheffield’s nose pretty good tho
Two bias Cleveland commentators, everyone knows the rules.
I am not a fan of Sheffield, but I had no idea Carmona was such a benevolent, virtuous man of honor.
He had actually just finished giving a sermon at church before this game.
@@gregk7515 I heard that he was helping little old ladies across the street before going into church.
I love how the fans got loud when the fight broke out!!!
Roberto Hernandez started it
Aha i get it
SlimShady9000Mac Phillies announcers couldn't say "Roberto" while he was here, so he's fondly remembered by what they did call him: "Rubber Toe" Hernandez
Love the way the latinoamerica guys inmediately look for the other guys from overseas to keep them out of the problem even if they are in the other team and are from different country. You see Placido Polanco keeping Victor Martinez, and Maglio Ordonez keeping Fausto Carmona...
Gary sheffield was a great player.. I had the chance to talk with him... Great guy over all!!!
All players are great when you use steroids Sammy Sosa Mark McGwire Jose Canseco and the list goes on
@@barryflanagan6665 so are you saying Gary Sheffield was on steroids?
@@louburgunde9719 yes he admitted it himself
Announcers back then were hilarious! I miss those days.
ah the memories, back when Asdrubal Cabrera was "the smallest guy in the fray"...
It was hilarious seeing Carmona giving Sheffield noogies.
Carmona wit the t - rex punches caught sheffield
Hey Harry wake up! Harry! My god! Good news fans, the Indians are showing signs of life for the first time in weeks!
Ryan Wile i think willies keeping his hands a little low. that might affect him in the later rounds
M y
Bout time it’s 9 to nothing
LOL... You have to love the blind bias of home town announcers. "Sheffield started the whole thing..." by getting hit by a pitch.
Hay cruza el fallecido andy marte,que momentos no se puede negar grandes ligas es grandes ligas
You can always tell which announcer are for which team
Maggie Ordonez is one of the players gotten ejected from the game for "base brawl".
It looked like Sheffield was hesitant running to the mound.
damn the tigers team was stacked, miggy,Ordonez. Sheffield
Back when Papa Ilitch was alive and would spend money on his teams. Boy do we miss him around Detroit.
Tigers are awful
One of the craziest fights I have known in so many years
Sheffield cost himself a shot at history, when he was suspended for the rest of the season, it caused him a shot at 500 homers,he was at 499,he had to wait until next season and a new team, the New York Mets, to get #500.
A Sheffield lo sonó Carmona. Plátano power.
Garry Sheffield is a scary dude. he gives off a Ray Lewis vibe
I don't think he scared Carmona too much judging by the way he was pounding his face and busting him open
Imagine what they do at super bowl parties together
Naaa! If anything That Fausto guy looks dangerous
Based on the fight, I wouldn't be that scared
A double murderer vibe?
Was not Inge, was Placido Polanco.
Inge tackled Martinez, not Polanco
...its good carmona didnt back down
but i pitched in h.s. and a bit in college,
and i always felt i had a safety obligation to the hitter,
meaning: if i didnt feel or sure
, 100 percent, it was
going to do what i wanted it to do, i abandonned it,
and threw it another direction,
and
didnt throw it,
i think carmona wasnt 100 percent
sure that ball
was going to do what he wanted it
to do
...before he chucked it.
This was instigated by Sheffield. Carmona was ahead in the count (0-1). It was still a close game and in the late innings. There's no way Carmona hit him on purpose.
You're absolutely correct. Except when he threw over to first, he intentionally threw at Sheffield. The HBP wasn't intentional, the throw over was.
+TimWorst IsTheBest true, but he only did that because Sheffield was already trying to show him up. He threw at first only to tell him to shut up
+Brandon Burns
Sheffield did nothing to show him up. He glared at him because he just got hit. Sheffield wasn't going to steal and he barely had a time to even get a lead, yet Carmona thows over ???
I'm trying to get into baseball what does show him up mean?
Wtf? The throw to first was literally nowhere near Sheffield. It went right into the 1st baseman's glove.
Sheffield had quite a solid career.
Now you know why Gary Sheffield won't be in the hall. Always had an attitude, ego, thought he was tough and a huge racist. You'll NEVER be in the hall because of it.
all i know is that the battle of Detroit and Cleveland will never end
Its mainly Ohio vs Michigan
I think @4:59 it was actually Magglio's fist that bloodied Sheffield's nose.
A chefill le dieron lo Suyo por guapo, bien por Carmona
Could these announcers be anymore wrong? Know the history!
I was at the game. Shuffled is a punk and got owned
I find it interesting how biased the commentators are. They blame Sheffield because he spoke to Carmona, yet Carmona yells at Sheffield and when they run at each other they meet closer to first base than the mound and it's Carmons who swings the first punch after running over ready to swing.
We need Jomboy Media Here Haha
🤡
No we don’t.
Fausto the fraud.
Lol this was in the suggestions of a jomboy video
"both benched clear in cleveland" well i've never seen just one clear...
Dang. Miggy tried to hold back V-Mart back then... Now they are jokers xD on the same team
You never played if you blame that entirely or even mostly on Sheffield! Carmona started it by firing to first as hard as he did, and you can't know if he hit Sheffield on purpose without asking him, this is the majors and pitchers have a pretty good idea of what they are doing
😂 we need Jomboy here as a commentator
It’s aways the tough guy who gets beat up lol
Those were 2 crazy good teams.
I love the title. As if only one bench would clear.
true Dennis... anything to exaggerate stuff.... lol
Gene Lamont can be seen in 68.5% of the MLB bench clearing videos on TH-cam. Just sayin'.
Its funny because it wasn’t that much longer for Victor (stop at Boston) before he became teammates with Miggy, Sneaky Power and Detroit
Sheffield did not start the whole thing 😂. Carmona through a 100mph pick off .
The base runner is fighting with a shortstop in the seventh inning.
4:56 some of the weakest punches ever 😂 😂 😂
He busted his nose tho , they look soft but had em leakin 😂🤷🏾♂️
Lol 😂
He don't like the Dominicans but he pick up the wrong one .🤭😹😳
I went to a baseball game and a hockey game broke out.
What a coincidence that victor martinez was upset at miggy but there teammates in detroit right now
Victor wasn't upset with Cabrera......what are you talking about
You can tell Sheffield is crazy. Hernandez (Carmona) is a thick 6'4. He took an asswhooping. Only way he could be stupider if he tried to fight Sabathia.
Sheffield is also 12 years OLDER than them. A 40 year man is NEVER going to be afraid of some 20- or 30- something, he wouldn't of cared if he was 7 foot 4 inches and 400 lbs, the older guy is going to do something about it. He may not win all the time, but the guy ISN'T going to back down. Hes 12 years older!!! That's like a 12th grader backing down from a fight with a kindergartner.
If Hernandez threw better punches, this fight would have been the same as the Nolan Ryan and Robin Ventura fight
Im a huge sheffield fan and agreed with everything he did here up until the pick off. The middle infield is my target and when I cross the mound, let's see what he has to say then
"It's a melee!". They haven't trained Ranged or Magic.
belandino underrated comment.
I'm a Tribe fan, but Fausto clearly started it, also, MLB wasn't ready for Sheff. Night in and night out he was called an instigator, unruly, short tempered... truth is/was Sheff was an OG and he wasn't taking crap from anyone.
Daddy Green's New Deal I'm from N.Y.C. and I definitely disagree with you, Sheffield started this!
Announcer is so annoying and homerish that he's intolerable.
I think Martinez and Hernandez were both tossed at the same time. V-Mart and Asdrubal Cabrera got suspended. Thankfully nothing happened to Choo.
The pathetic head punching was hilarious 😂
That pickoff throw though...had to be at least 90 mph
1:30 Matt Joyce on the ground but nobody's paying attention to him.. They not ever tryna get him..
He might as well been in Left field in the fetal position while everyone fight it out in the mound
Gene Lamont is present for 61.5% of all basebrawl videos on TH-cam.
I'm even more pissed off because there's no baseball on right now, thank you China
i miss baseball 😭😭😭😭😭
1:24
Look at Carmonas noodle arms at 1:51, hahahahaha
eso es parte del show, es algo muy facil de resolver, multas y sanciones seberas para todo el que intervenga,........eso se puede evitar, sin embargo no lo evitan, pasan decadas y decadas y sigue igual.
Why does the mlb cameras always pull away when there's a fight
Look at Victor Martinez and Miguel Cabrera, interesting they were future teammates with the Detroit Tigers who went at it after a brawl against the Yankees were Martinez was caught talking and smiling with a Yankee during that brawl.
How you gonna charge the Pitcher and get beat up?
You call dat beat up?
@@ygamltd8212 yes I do
@@ygamltd8212Yes sir ur boy got beat up😂😂
People try to break down “who’s at fault” in baseball brawls far too much. This is just baseball. Emotions run high and people fight. It’s the way it’s supposed to be.
Looked like Carmona warmed that head up for Mr. Sheffield👊🏻
Not quite Nolan Ryan vs Robin Ventura, but an admirable effort.
The title to this video is dumb. Obviously not just one bench is gonna clear
I like how they announced to say it was instigated by Gary Sheffield when he was the one that was hit..lol
"Sheffield's nose bloodied by Carmona" not a drop of blood...lol these are the worst commentators ever taking every word and filling them with bias.