3:21 Incorrect date alert! The Wii date here is the Wii U eShop re-release date, rather than the original release date of October 24th (NA) or 27th (JP) 2011. Apologies for that slipping through the cracks!
I think the main reason Kirby gets so much “special treatment” is because it’s Hal’s main franchise. They’ve got smaller titles like Boxboy, but they’re pretty much “the Kirby guys”, so they’ve got free reign to give as much special attention for Kirby as they want.
I just realised why they chose to release this so soon after forgotten land, because after all the time kirby spent in the forgotten land, this was his "return to dreamland", as if he had just returned from that adventure.
One thing I LOVE about this game is how the True Arena is handled. Arguably the most difficult in the series next to Planet Robobot, but it can also be completely invalidated if you grind Magolorland and use the extra souvenir items. It's almost like an optional difficulty toggler that's unlocked for playing the game which is great.
does Star Allies's hardest difficulty of Ultimate Choice not count? cuz JESUS that was hard as nails only game thats come out after the original return to dream land that had a true arena that i couldnt beat with normal kirby by a long shot
Magolor literally defeated the tree and sold it's fruit out of spite. May be microtransactions but I have mad respect for him doing it. Sure, it made microtransagolor canon but it's too funny
One gripe I have with it is how they implemented Festival Dance (it’s friend ability from Star Allies). The only way to use Festival Dance is to have other people around, effectively making it a multiplayer exclusive move, which I don’t get at all. It’s cool that you kept Festival’s friend ability, but why did make the conditions to use it the same? Why not have you charge it up like Crash’s Supernova or Mike’s Encore?
@@MC_CNIn both the games it is in, Festival has two moves: Solo Dance (performed ONLY when Kirby is by himself, of course almost no one probably knows that because they give you friends by the dozen in Star Allies) And Festival Dance (it’s Friend Ability, performed by having at least one friend nearby when you press B)
I do think that Magalor's experience in the other dimension helped open his eyes to what he was doing. As for one he got a second chance at life, and two he got to see the evil of the Master Crown manifested. I'm sure being on the receiving end up that probably did a number on him, probably realized how much he hurt Kirby as, just like what he did to the puffball, he collected things in order to do something important and then it got turned back on him.
The ending where he becomes green Magolor in Kirby Clash raises some questions, though. He also shows up in Star Allies and Fighters 2 to help Kirby, and he builds the Dream Collection park as a way to apologize. Does he find a way to return to the main universe somehow? If so, do his clothes always change when he switches worlds for some reason? He still has the gem apples in Star Allies, so that means he must have gone to the Clash world before.
@@coalminer4301 If you buy out the shoppe microtransactions in Kirby Clash then Magolor will be wearing his original blue costume. In the epilogue he says if he upgrades his dimensional vanish too much it could warp to other worlds. This is just a theory but I assume from both of these he sets up his Shoppe in the Clash Universe to both obtain funds from adventurers and power from the Gem Apples. Once he has siphoned people's wallets he has enough of both so he finds a way to either teleport back or maybe even get in contact again with the Lor so he can go back to Kirby's world to make amends and make the theme park.
@@TheGraveKnight uh yeah, about that there's a good chance that Magolor legit took influence from Judas on his design doc, his yellow is intended to refer to what the designers believed was "the color of betrayal in Christianity"
26:08 The True Extra Missions are Magolor's method of once again finding a way to betray people's trust, he can't keep getting away with it HAL Labs has been going absolutely crazy with Kirby's 30th Anniversary, dude. Forgotten Land was a monumental step for the franchise as a whole, the 30th Anniversary Music Fest was amazing to see live, Dream Buffet had a cracked soundtrack, and RTDL DX is an incredible tribute to the game that lead to the worldbuilding that fans adore today! This remake pays a lot of respect to the original game while also adding so much to it, Magolor's character in particular got a ton of attention, and it's super cool! I think this game is a solid way to end off the 30th Anniversary (quick side note: definitely give some of the new songs in RTDL DX a listen, Blue Blizzard Remix from Magolor Epilogue in particular is a HUGE highlight)
I was listening to that remix today. Some parts sound almost ripped from the final boss of robobot. I love the new Magolor Epilogue songs because they all feel like they have a lot of familiar motifs but feel very different at the same time if that makes sense.
makes me wish gamefreak cared as much about making a good pokemon remake. Yeah I critized nintendo on a nintendo youtuber channel come at me. (bracing for the mob lmao)
@@Magic_Ice yes but the producer of pokemon was still the head, and it's come out in articles that he basically forced them to cut a lot of new content they wanted to add
And don’t forget about Kirby: Right Back at Ya! FINALLY getting an HD Blu-Ray rerelease (in Japan only, for now)!… for the price of more than a Switch…
23:52 Actually, fun thing they did; since Nightmare in Dream Land and Amazing Mirror shared the same menu theme, Crackity Hack instead uses a remix of Central Circle so it can stay unique
I'm honestly super happy that this remaster exists, because now I can finally finish this game. I have the original version, but the save file I have for it is special to me. My mom & I played the original briefly back when it was new-ish and we made it a decent way through. I always wanted to go back & finish it with her, but never did, & she passed away 4 years ago, so now I'll never get the chance to finish it with her. My mom & I would play a few games like that, play together on the weekend & just have fun. She could kick my ass at Pokemon Puzzle League quite often.
There are two constants in Kirby games: The developers' love for Whispy Woods and reality-ending deities for final bosses. Now the final boss in Magolor's epilogue combines the best of both worlds! "Guardian of the Forest" Whispy Woods "Resident of Floralia" Flowery Woods "Mechanized" Clanky Woods and now finally: "Tree Crown Without a Ruler" Master (Whispy) Crown
I’m with you on the fps, 30fps makes sense for Forgotten Land not only because of the different format but also because it has a kinda cinematic style and feel to it.
The Magolor Epilogue (alongside the Star Allies Dream Friends in general) just makes me want unique adventures for every major Kirby character now. Taranza, Susie, Hyness and the Mage Sisters, even Daroach, I want it all baby.
@@thecpmr6276 planet robobot, nightmare in dream land, star allies, that one kirbys extra epic yarn subgame, kirbys return to dreamland/ deluxe arena and mutiplayer
@@kirbgreen My DS is broken, My DS is broken, I play as Meta Knight all the time in star allies I love him there, my DS is broken, I wish I didn't HAVE to play multiplayer to be Meta Knight. Mainly this was directed at forgotten land. The meta knight doesn't count, I want the cool wings! In all seriousness, I fucking love Kirby and it's cool you can play as Meta Knight and dedede and such.
@@thecpmr6276 yeah fair but i was talking about emulation for kssu,, knmidl, and kpr but i would get it if you wouldn't want to do that because i mean i don't do it either
9:10 this also seems to apply for the gordos too, the ones in the main game take after the star allies models, whilst the ones in magoland/the subgames take more after the forgotten land models
@@skyblu5647 Only in the second Phase. You can search up "Supreme Rulers Coronation ~ OVERLORD (Phase 2)", which is the Version of the Theme with Magolors Cries in it. It is honestly such an insane inclusion
My one critique with this game; as amazing as it is, the Challenge Stages from Kirby's Dream Collection (and Smash Kirby) would have been perfect additions, as you said. But also, there are enemies that could have easily given Cleaning, Spider, and Archer. And I just feel like that was a missed opportunity.
I am SO SAD we didn't get Smash, it 100% should've been here instead of Festival Imagine being a special reward for unlocking the 5th copy ability room!
Oh, absolutely. I love the game, but I felt such inner disappointment when I swallowed an Archer enemy and didn't get the ability. Archer is just still my favourite copy ability of them all!
I'm so sad that out of all the abilities from later games they could've brought in, they chose Festival. *Festival,* a on time use ability that's massively overshadowed by it's 2 older brothers, Mike and Crash. Like, not having Cleaning isn't near the end of the world. Just would've been nice along with some more challenge stages.
@@castform7 it's probably solely because this game is part of the 30th anniversary celebration. Star allies had it for the 25th so it makes sense it was here. Though surely it couldn't have been hard to port the other star allies abilities
11:00 Not to forget, that It's not just the outlines - the shading was actually altered to make it more cel-shading-ish. While the hardness of the shading is not quite fully cel-shading, it's definitely close enough to work :3
About the changes to the music in Nutty Noon 5's mini boss tower, the Wii remix of Dedede's theme still plays in the normal route on the normal version of the campaign. In Extra mode though, that normal route instead plays the Star Allies rendition of Dedede's theme. I imagine this detail being easily overlooked by players familiar with the game who exclusively take the secret route and were confused by the music changes there.
Aside from the lack of online multiplayer, my only other disappointment with this remaster is that Player 1 is still restricted to playing as Kirby in story mode. Meta Knight is my favorite character, but I can't really play as him in story mode without having someone else available to control Kirby. And I don't always have someone else available, let alone in person to play the game with me. :/
Not being able to play as other characters as player 1 along with not being able to replay extra mode without deleting the whole file were things I wanted fixed in this remake, but they didn't fix them
@@smashmaster521 That doesn't always work because not only will Kirby fall off the character upon taking damage, but the characters also can't pick up certain objects like keys or candles whenever Kirby is riding on that character's back. (not to mention the underwater sections)
@@ZeroKnight95 And that's why World 3 is my least favorite world. Besides, I always put Player 2 away when I need to carry something or ride in the cleat.
HAL doesn't do remasters, it does remakes. Even Super Star Stacker adds content upon Star Stacker. Not much, but NiDL had Meta Knightmare and maybe Boss Endurance, SSU added: •the ability to drop your ability without making a helper •Helper to Hero •Revenge of the King •Meta Knightmare •True Arena •rendered cutscenes •new icons for helpers and abilities (most noticeable in Milky Way Wishes) •touchscreen support Extra Epic Yarn doesn't change the graphics or music at all, instead getting rid of multiplayer and adding Ravel Abilities. Kirby Fighters Deluxe, Dedede's Drum Dash Deluxe, and Team Kirby Clash Deluxe are more of the same appeal their original subgames had. This changes the Dededesign more than a simple remaster, adds more music tracks for old bosses (i.e. Roar of Dedede for HR-D3), lets you actually see some of the lengths he went to for forgiveness, lets you take Kirby and friends to (one of) his amusement park(s), added Mecha and Sand, and made an unfair Magolor Soul for True Arena separate from Magolor EX. Let's try and ignore them porting Festival over as well.
3:21 quick mistakes I noticed, Return to Dreamland Wii was not released on January 28th 2015 but October 21 2011. He got it mixed up with Rainbow Curse
31:3034:30 Biblically Accurate Whispy Woods is possibly the best nickname for a Kirby boss I’ve ever heard. I personally would’ve went with “The unholy amalgamation of Whispy Woods and Zero 2 from Kirby 64” but hey, to each your own.
honestly there isn't really much reason to remake those games right now, especially since hal is a lot less lazy with remakes then most companies. Which would mean we'd have to wait longer for krtdd, not that that would be a bad thing but I'm just saying.
@@nascour5991 Oh I agree, we won't be seeing another remake for awhile since this is the 3rd remake, but if in the future they would remake another one, Triple Ultra Deluxe would be fantastic
Three things. 1) Not long after this dropped as I'm sure you're aware, Dream Land 2 dropped on NSO. So they really aren't giving you a break 2) I also referred to the new boss as God Whispy and a friend (who happened to be on the couch in that GDQ clip you showed of Tilt 'n Tumble) calls him Biblically Accurate Whispy Woods. Hilarious! 3) Those double black holes during Magolor Soul also ate my Sand ability. Did not expect that. I also used the Souvenirs cause you can totally use them in True Arena (at the cost of a mark on the best times but idc) and used up all my healing along with many many random abilities just to get Sand back so that one attempt wasn't for naught.
While a lot of Magolor's evil intentions can be derived from the Darkness of the Master Crown, Marx was just a Scrunkly Pr*ck who wanted Power and mischief all too himself and that's why I love both of them equally
can confirm that dying to magolor soul's double black holes after half an hour of the true arena causes complete ego death other than that though i absolutely loved this remake
this game is honestly incredible. There are very few remakes I think go above and beyond to make the original game even better but this is easily one of them. Unless you really like ddd's old design or the scope shot minigame, I really don't know why you would ever go back to the original krtd. It's got so much content it's actually almost worth 60 usd (80 cad). I wish it was a bit cheaper but otherwise this game is basically perfect and easily in my top 5 favorite kirby games of all time.
I mean I like it a lot, but while I agree with it blowing the original out of the water, I still think it's held back by a lot of the game design carried over from the original, and it's still kinda lacking in replay value compared to some other titles, (that being said the original was always held back a lot by its lack of content which was at the very least improved a lot here with the new mode and lots of sub games.) In particular, while the new Magolor mode is fun, as well as the new True Arena the game is held back by some of the intrusive gimmicks of the original game, in particular the Super Copy Abilities being really uninteresting, the alternate dimensional holes being meh and the game not allowing you to play as any character other than Kirby as first player (largely because of the super copy abilities.)
@@Robbie_Haruna lacking in replay value??? I understand the extra mode being kinda tedious cus it's just the same game but harder with 2 new bosses, but there's also magolorland, both arena modes, challenge stages and magolor epilogue so idk what you mean there's a ton of content. I'll agree super copy abilities are pretty lame, idk I like the dimensional rifts but I agree they can be excessive and not changing them for extra mode was a odd choice. Not being allowed to play as another other character besides kirby, you mean like every kirby game? I understand wanting to play as other characters and you probably should be able too eventually but idk this is a thing in most of the games. The new side modes like ddd tour, metaknight returns, magolor epilogue are hal's answer to rectify that. At least you can play as other characters in arena and true arena after beating them both at least once, but complaining about playing the main character in a series about that character is very strange indeed. Especially when every super ability section is completley optional and if you really wanted you could invite friends and play as a character besides player 1 (ik not everyone has a lot of free time but still, it's a option).
To be fair, Kirby is controlled by Hal, it's really one of the few instances where Nintendo is more or less exclusively a publisher rather than a developer, same goes for Pokemon, at any rate we've had seemingly random dev teams pop up and make solid entries into Mario, Zelda and Metroid fairly recently so it's safe to assume that the option is there for some random dev team to pop up and make an amazing F-Zero and/or Starfox title, good luck getting an official Mother 3 translation though :T
I’m so happy this game has got a Deluxe release, love how it looks and all the new stuff is so neat. This is one my most favourites. Insane how much we Kirby fans we have been getting recently. 💫
21:18 While yes, in the original about 70% was needed in main mode to unlock ex, that barrier was removed in Deluxe, literally just requiring a main mode clear. For fun I beat it with barely 40% and *2* energy spheres and it still unlocked along with the epilogue.
Actually love the little details, like the title changes in the original and other stuff. Also found pretty interesting the fact that the final boss in Magolor Epilogue is the Super Kirby Clash/Team Kirby Clash Deluxe tree that you could make grow with microtransactions.
I wonder what this means for Magolor now for post-Super Kirby Clash. Like will he return to the main canon proper with his green robes to indicate him turning over a new leaf? And if so, what does that mean for his blue outfit or any of his past appearances using it?
I think he already returned to the main canon and switched back to his old blue outfit. Star Allies and Fighters 2 show him using some of the abilities he learned in Epilogue, plus he uses the Gem Apples he acquired in Clash, so they clearly occurred after he returned from Clash.
Gotcha. Feel like it would have been nice to see it be represented by him keeping at least the green color pallet even if his outfit went back to the previous design.
This remaster was everything i ever wanted. Nostalgia done right and damn is that Magolor fight in True Arena fun. I play True Arena daily just because it is that fun to better my time in.
I think that the new visual style Return To Dream Land Deluxe introduced should be the style for all Kirby games going forward, it really helps make the game stand out more visually, as well as keeping the Forgotten Land Dedede design, which is kind of the peak for me. As for the new abilities, Mecha kind of reminds me of the UFO ability, and for Sand, well, it's coarse, and rough, and it gets everywhere, no wonder it's so powerful. One question remains, however, is Bandana Waddle Dee still able to defy all known laws of aviation in this remake?
yeah there is no way a Waddle Dee should be able to fly. it doesn't have wings to get its fat little body off the ground. The Waddle Dee, of course, flies anyway, because Waddle Dees don't care what humans think is impossible.
Given pretty much any Helper that can't normally fly/levitate (also Flamberge) can infinitely jump, I just assume defying the laws of aviation and gravity is just a common thing in Kirbys world
Fun fact there is some concept art for kirby planet robobot that sugested that originally kirby was gonna be mechanized its possible that mecha was simply based on that idea
Magolor's Epilogue was such a nice addition to this remake. It left me hoping that other Kirby characters will get their own side games in the future, not just Meta Knight and King Dedede. Imagine how fun an adventure with Adeline would be with her paint ability.
I got this game for a nice chill platformer. And I cannot understate just how powerful the outlines are for someone with poor vision. I've kind of always associated Kirby with being more accessible. Super Star Ultra was my previous favorite and go to Kirby game. This blew that out of the water in terms of how playable it is for me. Also Spear Kirby is amazing. I love it.
Gonna be incredibly pedantic, but fun fact, the tower music specifically depends on if you're doing the hidden entrance or regular mode. In extra mode the music is still changed but to macho of dedede
The Kirby Guy woooo X3 I'm currently having a lot of fun doing co-op in this game and I sure hope it continues :D I believe it will :D awesome to hear your happy thoughts too :D
25:08 Scope shot wasn't scrapped entirely. Egg catcher brings back the mecha dedede from that mode, and the bazooka design was repurposed (and slightly redone) as the blaster design in the new booming blasters minigame, plus, add you said yourself, the scope shot title theme plays in one of the Hal rooms.
What’s a really neat detail is in the final phase of the Master Crown boss fight, parts of Soul of Sectonia play within the theme which makes sense as both we’re plant based horrors for final bosses.
Kirby's been within my dreams recently, and I couldn't be happier for it, considering what I'm wanting to get a career in my future! But I still can't believe they made a Tree the finale for Magolor, what's next from this!? Would like it if Ant did a double down in cuteness by returning to A Hat in Time alongside the next Kirby, just so we can hear how much he truly loved both games as a whole.
Random Kirby Fun Fact! The devs at Hal love Kirby so much to the point where they don't wanna see him get hurt, so they end up putting little to no enemies into the game as possible. This has gotten them in trouble muiltple times as Nintedo yelled at them for the lack of enemies in the levels.
Honestly when I first started playing RtDLDX I wanted to try and defeat as little “enemies” as possible because they’re all just as adorable as Kirby. Especially the Waddle Dees, you had to save them to progress in The Forgotten Land. Super Copy Abilities make that nigh impossible.
i was so excited when this game was announced since i never got to play the original and now that ive beaten it, i can safely say its one of my favorite kirby games ever
34:44 as much as I love these new attacks magolar soul does, I really would've preferred if the new attacks were actually the scrapped super abilities, Spark and Cutter (maybe even that scrapped time ability as a third new one)
Am I seriously the only one who would've never even REALIZED Dedede's appearance changing between games, were the internet not constantly talking about it? Like, for real, to my eyes the changes are so subtle that I don't get it.
Crazy that me and AntDude92 use the same ability for the normal and true arenas (stone and sand) but sometimes I just torture my hands, wrists, arms and shoulders jo shake the damn controllers like a flipping rollercoaster with the spark ability.
Another thing is that on the difficulty selection screens, if you finish all the missions for said minigame, you get to change it to the original music
3:21 Incorrect date alert! The Wii date here is the Wii U eShop re-release date, rather than the original release date of October 24th (NA) or 27th (JP) 2011. Apologies for that slipping through the cracks!
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You had me thinking I was crazy for a second
I'm fine with that
Unacceptable unsubscribing now
But the Wii U can play original Wii games
I think the main reason Kirby gets so much “special treatment” is because it’s Hal’s main franchise. They’ve got smaller titles like Boxboy, but they’re pretty much “the Kirby guys”, so they’ve got free reign to give as much special attention for Kirby as they want.
I see
Another way of saying that is: If HAL wants to make money, they have to make Kirby games.
i farted at 21:13
Doesnt Hal make smash bros?
@@Silath01 Bandai Namco and Sora Ltd. (which is just Masahiro Sakurai) are the head developers of Smash Ultimate, iirc.
I just realised why they chose to release this so soon after forgotten land, because after all the time kirby spent in the forgotten land, this was his "return to dreamland", as if he had just returned from that adventure.
That's actually really clever.
😮😮😳😳🤯🤯🤯
😂😂😂
Now he's gonna make a 3 hour video on this deepest lore
@appleandaria the emoji
Being a Kirby fan and a Kid Icarus Fan feels like getting Christmas every month but everyone forgets your birthday.
Bro why’d you have to be that accurate
at least you know F-Zero fans are right there with you :')
Kid Icarus fan, or Kid Icarus Uprising fan?
@@AlastorShadow0obviously uprising
Kid Icarus isn’t exactly Dark Souls level of intuitiveness
@@Handlelesswithme intuitiveness? In Kid Icarus Uprising? Don't the controls suck half the time?
One thing I LOVE about this game is how the True Arena is handled. Arguably the most difficult in the series next to Planet Robobot, but it can also be completely invalidated if you grind Magolorland and use the extra souvenir items. It's almost like an optional difficulty toggler that's unlocked for playing the game which is great.
Reminds me of buying the power ups in Forgotten Land. It’ll show a sticker on your clear time in the arena, but that’s fine with me.
If you literally just use sand it is a walk in the park. Honestly sand is more OP than Morpho sword
@KirbehEtcetera I used spark and it was still a walk in the park... albeit I died to the new magolor soul fight but still
does Star Allies's hardest difficulty of Ultimate Choice not count? cuz JESUS that was hard as nails
only game thats come out after the original return to dream land that had a true arena that i couldnt beat with normal kirby by a long shot
@@anything6036 star allies arena was designed for multiplayer, soloing it is hard but completely optional
Magalor's final boss is literally the personification of MICROTRANSACTIONS!
Also I'm still waiting for Ant's Kirby Lore video. I will never forget.
HOW EVIL!
I love that the Epilogue made Kirby Clash CANON! GREEN MAGALOR IS CANON, WHAT IS THIS FRANCHISE? Oh I love it.
Magolor literally defeated the tree and sold it's fruit out of spite. May be microtransactions but I have mad respect for him doing it. Sure, it made microtransagolor canon but it's too funny
Microtransagolor
The best thing about Festival's inclusion is that if you have Helper Magolor enabled he'll accompany Kirby's dance as a one-man-band
That alone makes its inclusion worth it
One gripe I have with it is how they implemented Festival Dance (it’s friend ability from Star Allies). The only way to use Festival Dance is to have other people around, effectively making it a multiplayer exclusive move, which I don’t get at all. It’s cool that you kept Festival’s friend ability, but why did make the conditions to use it the same? Why not have you charge it up like Crash’s Supernova or Mike’s Encore?
@@buddy9848 you can use festival whenever in RtDL Deluxe, and Festival just needs some allies (cpu players included) for Star Allies
@@MC_CNIn both the games it is in, Festival has two moves:
Solo Dance (performed ONLY when Kirby is by himself, of course almost no one probably knows that because they give you friends by the dozen in Star Allies)
And Festival Dance (it’s Friend Ability, performed by having at least one friend nearby when you press B)
@@buddy9848 I'm just saying you don't need multiplayer to use festival
I don't know why, but, Ant just phasing out of existence at 31:21 after seeing Biblically Accurate Whispy is really funny
It's like the duck meme
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Yeah it’s just too goof
This isn't an unhealthy obsession with Kirby. This is the middle ground of the normal range of Kirby obsession
I absolutely love all the Kirby Content as a massive kirby fan! I await to see the next Kirby video that will inevitably happen most likely this year.
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Can't believe antdude hasn't bothered giving you a heart for that donation.
You spent money to write a TH-cam comment.💀
Damn, you made a paid comment and he didn't give you a heart? That sucks.
@@willbrgamer5137 thankfully he did.
That intro with Ant Kirby was absolutely adorable ;v;
it sure was :)
Hey cute pfp
Hey Nintendo, where’s the Ant Form for Kirby, huh?
EDIT: Make it the 69th form!
But is it ant dude as Kirby or did Kirby eat ant dude, that’s the real question
Agreed it is incredible!
HR-D3 phase 2 using Roar of Dedede felt like a jump-scare. Also the True Arena in this game was a doozy, I loved it. This remake bangs.
I do think that Magalor's experience in the other dimension helped open his eyes to what he was doing. As for one he got a second chance at life, and two he got to see the evil of the Master Crown manifested. I'm sure being on the receiving end up that probably did a number on him, probably realized how much he hurt Kirby as, just like what he did to the puffball, he collected things in order to do something important and then it got turned back on him.
It's basically the equivalent of Judas destroying the original sin to repent for his betrayal of Jesus
The ending where he becomes green Magolor in Kirby Clash raises some questions, though. He also shows up in Star Allies and Fighters 2 to help Kirby, and he builds the Dream Collection park as a way to apologize. Does he find a way to return to the main universe somehow? If so, do his clothes always change when he switches worlds for some reason? He still has the gem apples in Star Allies, so that means he must have gone to the Clash world before.
@@coalminer4301 If you buy out the shoppe microtransactions in Kirby Clash then Magolor will be wearing his original blue costume. In the epilogue he says if he upgrades his dimensional vanish too much it could warp to other worlds. This is just a theory but I assume from both of these he sets up his Shoppe in the Clash Universe to both obtain funds from adventurers and power from the Gem Apples. Once he has siphoned people's wallets he has enough of both so he finds a way to either teleport back or maybe even get in contact again with the Lor so he can go back to Kirby's world to make amends and make the theme park.
@@TheGraveKnight uh yeah, about that
there's a good chance that Magolor legit took influence from Judas
on his design doc, his yellow is intended to refer to what the designers believed was "the color of betrayal in Christianity"
@@elipticalecliptic481 I'm aware, I was just pointing out what Magolor's story metaphorically was
"maybe now we can take a break"
Two months later: Announce open world Kirby game
Next day kirby Dream land 2 announced for switch online they really like jinxing ant
WHAT?! Did that announcement really happen??
@@appleandaria6947 yeah dreamland 2 is on switch online
@@prosylan6368 That's open world?
@@appleandaria6947 oh I got confused on who you were replying to in that case there's no open world kirby game that's been announced yet
26:08 The True Extra Missions are Magolor's method of once again finding a way to betray people's trust, he can't keep getting away with it
HAL Labs has been going absolutely crazy with Kirby's 30th Anniversary, dude. Forgotten Land was a monumental step for the franchise as a whole, the 30th Anniversary Music Fest was amazing to see live, Dream Buffet had a cracked soundtrack, and RTDL DX is an incredible tribute to the game that lead to the worldbuilding that fans adore today! This remake pays a lot of respect to the original game while also adding so much to it, Magolor's character in particular got a ton of attention, and it's super cool! I think this game is a solid way to end off the 30th Anniversary
(quick side note: definitely give some of the new songs in RTDL DX a listen, Blue Blizzard Remix from Magolor Epilogue in particular is a HUGE highlight)
I was listening to that remix today. Some parts sound almost ripped from the final boss of robobot. I love the new Magolor Epilogue songs because they all feel like they have a lot of familiar motifs but feel very different at the same time if that makes sense.
makes me wish gamefreak cared as much about making a good pokemon remake. Yeah I critized nintendo on a nintendo youtuber channel come at me. (bracing for the mob lmao)
@@nascour5991
1. Ilka made the remake not Game Freak.
2. What having to rush a new game out every November does to a dev team
@@Magic_Ice yes but the producer of pokemon was still the head, and it's come out in articles that he basically forced them to cut a lot of new content they wanted to add
And don’t forget about Kirby: Right Back at Ya! FINALLY getting an HD Blu-Ray rerelease (in Japan only, for now)!… for the price of more than a Switch…
23:52 Actually, fun thing they did; since Nightmare in Dream Land and Amazing Mirror shared the same menu theme, Crackity Hack instead uses a remix of Central Circle so it can stay unique
I'm honestly super happy that this remaster exists, because now I can finally finish this game. I have the original version, but the save file I have for it is special to me. My mom & I played the original briefly back when it was new-ish and we made it a decent way through. I always wanted to go back & finish it with her, but never did, & she passed away 4 years ago, so now I'll never get the chance to finish it with her. My mom & I would play a few games like that, play together on the weekend & just have fun. She could kick my ass at Pokemon Puzzle League quite often.
There are two constants in Kirby games: The developers' love for Whispy Woods and reality-ending deities for final bosses. Now the final boss in Magolor's epilogue combines the best of both worlds!
"Guardian of the Forest" Whispy Woods
"Resident of Floralia" Flowery Woods
"Mechanized" Clanky Woods
and now finally: "Tree Crown Without a Ruler" Master (Whispy) Crown
I prefer the Headline: "Source of Limitless Power"
I love that this came out hours before they shadow dropped Dreamland 2 on NSO
I’m with you on the fps, 30fps makes sense for Forgotten Land not only because of the different format but also because it has a kinda cinematic style and feel to it.
Being a Kirby fan must be one of the easiest career paths in life.
The Magolor Epilogue (alongside the Star Allies Dream Friends in general) just makes me want unique adventures for every major Kirby character now. Taranza, Susie, Hyness and the Mage Sisters, even Daroach, I want it all baby.
Same. Honestly though, ever since super star ultra, all I've EVER WANTED TO DO IS PLAY AS META-KNIGHT PLEASE NINTENDO
@@thecpmr6276pal have you heard of the Meta Knightmare modes. There's a robobot one.
@@thecpmr6276 planet robobot, nightmare in dream land, star allies, that one kirbys extra epic yarn subgame, kirbys return to dreamland/ deluxe arena and mutiplayer
@@kirbgreen My DS is broken, My DS is broken, I play as Meta Knight all the time in star allies I love him there, my DS is broken, I wish I didn't HAVE to play multiplayer to be Meta Knight. Mainly this was directed at forgotten land. The meta knight doesn't count, I want the cool wings!
In all seriousness, I fucking love Kirby and it's cool you can play as Meta Knight and dedede and such.
@@thecpmr6276 yeah fair but i was talking about emulation for kssu,, knmidl, and kpr but i would get it if you wouldn't want to do that because i mean i don't do it either
12:46 The midboss tower does still play Dedede's theme but it plays different music on depending on which path you take
Your pfp is the funny Dedede face
I love that detail
@@Metaknighttheloneswordsman the funny
@@chaosarcana Me too, especially when I played it in the extra mode and it played Macho Dedede, that's like one of my favourite Kirby songs
9:10 this also seems to apply for the gordos too, the ones in the main game take after the star allies models, whilst the ones in magoland/the subgames take more after the forgotten land models
I'm surprised he didn't mention Magolor Crying for help in the true arena fight. That's like such a cool detail
That happens? I didn’t pay attention to that while I beat the boss.
@@skyblu5647 Only in the second Phase. You can search up "Supreme Rulers Coronation ~ OVERLORD (Phase 2)", which is the Version of the Theme with Magolors Cries in it. It is honestly such an insane inclusion
@@skyblu5647 in the music of the True Arena Magaolr Soul phase 2 theme, you can pieces of Magalors voice every so often
@@OriginalGameteer it's even it's own entry in the sound test!
OoO
My one critique with this game; as amazing as it is, the Challenge Stages from Kirby's Dream Collection (and Smash Kirby) would have been perfect additions, as you said. But also, there are enemies that could have easily given Cleaning, Spider, and Archer. And I just feel like that was a missed opportunity.
I am SO SAD we didn't get Smash, it 100% should've been here instead of Festival
Imagine being a special reward for unlocking the 5th copy ability room!
Oh, absolutely. I love the game, but I felt such inner disappointment when I swallowed an Archer enemy and didn't get the ability. Archer is just still my favourite copy ability of them all!
I'm so sad that out of all the abilities from later games they could've brought in, they chose Festival. *Festival,* a on time use ability that's massively overshadowed by it's 2 older brothers, Mike and Crash. Like, not having Cleaning isn't near the end of the world. Just would've been nice along with some more challenge stages.
@@castform7 it's probably solely because this game is part of the 30th anniversary celebration. Star allies had it for the 25th so it makes sense it was here. Though surely it couldn't have been hard to port the other star allies abilities
I want more Magalor content, like using them in more modes, way more fun than straight up Kirby IMO
Kirby fans are living in a golden age
11:00 Not to forget, that It's not just the outlines - the shading was actually altered to make it more cel-shading-ish. While the hardness of the shading is not quite fully cel-shading, it's definitely close enough to work :3
4 hours later Dreamland 2 got added to Switch Online. Ant's opening statement rang true THE SAME DAY the video went out!
27:10 This looks the character selection menu from Lego Star Wars.
About the changes to the music in Nutty Noon 5's mini boss tower, the Wii remix of Dedede's theme still plays in the normal route on the normal version of the campaign. In Extra mode though, that normal route instead plays the Star Allies rendition of Dedede's theme. I imagine this detail being easily overlooked by players familiar with the game who exclusively take the secret route and were confused by the music changes there.
Aside from the lack of online multiplayer, my only other disappointment with this remaster is that Player 1 is still restricted to playing as Kirby in story mode. Meta Knight is my favorite character, but I can't really play as him in story mode without having someone else available to control Kirby. And I don't always have someone else available, let alone in person to play the game with me. :/
Not being able to play as other characters as player 1 along with not being able to replay extra mode without deleting the whole file were things I wanted fixed in this remake, but they didn't fix them
...You have two Joy-Cons. Use them to do Solo Co-Op runs.
@@smashmaster521 That doesn't always work because not only will Kirby fall off the character upon taking damage, but the characters also can't pick up certain objects like keys or candles whenever Kirby is riding on that character's back. (not to mention the underwater sections)
@@ZeroKnight95 And that's why World 3 is my least favorite world. Besides, I always put Player 2 away when I need to carry something or ride in the cleat.
HAL doesn't do remasters, it does remakes. Even Super Star Stacker adds content upon Star Stacker. Not much, but NiDL had Meta Knightmare and maybe Boss Endurance, SSU added:
•the ability to drop your ability without making a helper
•Helper to Hero
•Revenge of the King
•Meta Knightmare
•True Arena
•rendered cutscenes
•new icons for helpers and abilities (most noticeable in Milky Way Wishes)
•touchscreen support
Extra Epic Yarn doesn't change the graphics or music at all, instead getting rid of multiplayer and adding Ravel Abilities. Kirby Fighters Deluxe, Dedede's Drum Dash Deluxe, and Team Kirby Clash Deluxe are more of the same appeal their original subgames had. This changes the Dededesign more than a simple remaster, adds more music tracks for old bosses (i.e. Roar of Dedede for HR-D3), lets you actually see some of the lengths he went to for forgiveness, lets you take Kirby and friends to (one of) his amusement park(s), added Mecha and Sand, and made an unfair Magolor Soul for True Arena separate from Magolor EX. Let's try and ignore them porting Festival over as well.
3:21 quick mistakes I noticed, Return to Dreamland Wii was not released on January 28th 2015 but October 21 2011. He got it mixed up with Rainbow Curse
Big oops!
17:55 One day you’ll come back Qbby 😢
Having only one Switch game is criminal.
The Sand Ability was helpful in the true arena
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Biblically Accurate Whispy Woods is possibly the best nickname for a Kirby boss I’ve ever heard.
I personally would’ve went with “The unholy amalgamation of Whispy Woods and Zero 2 from Kirby 64” but hey, to each your own.
If Triple Deluxe would get a remastered it would be called "Kirby Triple Ultra Deluxe" another good reason to use "Ultra" again
honestly there isn't really much reason to remake those games right now, especially since hal is a lot less lazy with remakes then most companies. Which would mean we'd have to wait longer for krtdd, not that that would be a bad thing but I'm just saying.
@@nascour5991 Oh I agree, we won't be seeing another remake for awhile since this is the 3rd remake, but if in the future they would remake another one, Triple Ultra Deluxe would be fantastic
Hoping it would get a similar treatment, maybe get a mode of playing as Taranza to see the backstory on how Queen Sectonia got corrupted
Three things.
1) Not long after this dropped as I'm sure you're aware, Dream Land 2 dropped on NSO. So they really aren't giving you a break
2) I also referred to the new boss as God Whispy and a friend (who happened to be on the couch in that GDQ clip you showed of Tilt 'n Tumble) calls him Biblically Accurate Whispy Woods. Hilarious!
3) Those double black holes during Magolor Soul also ate my Sand ability. Did not expect that. I also used the Souvenirs cause you can totally use them in True Arena (at the cost of a mark on the best times but idc) and used up all my healing along with many many random abilities just to get Sand back so that one attempt wasn't for naught.
“Magalor is the reason fans couldn’t trust Elfin”
Marx: “Oh how cute”
While a lot of Magolor's evil intentions can be derived from the Darkness of the Master Crown, Marx was just a Scrunkly Pr*ck who wanted Power and mischief all too himself and that's why I love both of them equally
@@autismandgaming4532magolor is like marx but felt remorse, wanted redemption and to do better.
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I am cackling at scrunkly
can confirm that dying to magolor soul's double black holes after half an hour of the true arena causes complete ego death
other than that though i absolutely loved this remake
this game is honestly incredible. There are very few remakes I think go above and beyond to make the original game even better but this is easily one of them. Unless you really like ddd's old design or the scope shot minigame, I really don't know why you would ever go back to the original krtd. It's got so much content it's actually almost worth 60 usd (80 cad). I wish it was a bit cheaper but otherwise this game is basically perfect and easily in my top 5 favorite kirby games of all time.
I mean I like it a lot, but while I agree with it blowing the original out of the water, I still think it's held back by a lot of the game design carried over from the original, and it's still kinda lacking in replay value compared to some other titles, (that being said the original was always held back a lot by its lack of content which was at the very least improved a lot here with the new mode and lots of sub games.)
In particular, while the new Magolor mode is fun, as well as the new True Arena the game is held back by some of the intrusive gimmicks of the original game, in particular the Super Copy Abilities being really uninteresting, the alternate dimensional holes being meh and the game not allowing you to play as any character other than Kirby as first player (largely because of the super copy abilities.)
it's a remaster
@@jesusbarrera6916 um no it's not by defintion a remaster does not add nearly as much new stuff as this game did.
@@Robbie_Haruna lacking in replay value??? I understand the extra mode being kinda tedious cus it's just the same game but harder with 2 new bosses, but there's also magolorland, both arena modes, challenge stages and magolor epilogue so idk what you mean there's a ton of content. I'll agree super copy abilities are pretty lame, idk I like the dimensional rifts but I agree they can be excessive and not changing them for extra mode was a odd choice. Not being allowed to play as another other character besides kirby, you mean like every kirby game? I understand wanting to play as other characters and you probably should be able too eventually but idk this is a thing in most of the games. The new side modes like ddd tour, metaknight returns, magolor epilogue are hal's answer to rectify that. At least you can play as other characters in arena and true arena after beating them both at least once, but complaining about playing the main character in a series about that character is very strange indeed. Especially when every super ability section is completley optional and if you really wanted you could invite friends and play as a character besides player 1 (ik not everyone has a lot of free time but still, it's a option).
@@nascour5991 oh cool and where are you getting that definition?
Because it is not a remake if it's the base game underneath
33:40 yeah but without him we wouldn't have the funny kirby stickers
antdude: can we get a small break now?
*four hours later*
Nintendo after releasing Kirby’s Dreamland 2 on gameboy: n o
To be fair, Kirby is controlled by Hal, it's really one of the few instances where Nintendo is more or less exclusively a publisher rather than a developer, same goes for Pokemon, at any rate we've had seemingly random dev teams pop up and make solid entries into Mario, Zelda and Metroid fairly recently so it's safe to assume that the option is there for some random dev team to pop up and make an amazing F-Zero and/or Starfox title, good luck getting an official Mother 3 translation though :T
I’m so happy this game has got a Deluxe release, love how it looks and all the new stuff is so neat. This is one my most favourites. Insane how much we Kirby fans we have been getting recently. 💫
31:07 : An average Kirby game final boss
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While yes, in the original about 70% was needed in main mode to unlock ex, that barrier was removed in Deluxe, literally just requiring a main mode clear. For fun I beat it with barely 40% and *2* energy spheres and it still unlocked along with the epilogue.
Actually love the little details, like the title changes in the original and other stuff. Also found pretty interesting the fact that the final boss in Magolor Epilogue is the Super Kirby Clash/Team Kirby Clash Deluxe tree that you could make grow with microtransactions.
I wonder what this means for Magolor now for post-Super Kirby Clash. Like will he return to the main canon proper with his green robes to indicate him turning over a new leaf? And if so, what does that mean for his blue outfit or any of his past appearances using it?
I think he already returned to the main canon and switched back to his old blue outfit. Star Allies and Fighters 2 show him using some of the abilities he learned in Epilogue, plus he uses the Gem Apples he acquired in Clash, so they clearly occurred after he returned from Clash.
Based off inference the order of events is most likely:
Returns -> The Clash Duology -> Dream Collection & onwards, as this is post redemption
Gotcha. Feel like it would have been nice to see it be represented by him keeping at least the green color pallet even if his outfit went back to the previous design.
This remaster was everything i ever wanted. Nostalgia done right and damn is that Magolor fight in True Arena fun. I play True Arena daily just because it is that fun to better my time in.
I think that the new visual style Return To Dream Land Deluxe introduced should be the style for all Kirby games going forward, it really helps make the game stand out more visually, as well as keeping the Forgotten Land Dedede design, which is kind of the peak for me. As for the new abilities, Mecha kind of reminds me of the UFO ability, and for Sand, well, it's coarse, and rough, and it gets everywhere, no wonder it's so powerful.
One question remains, however, is Bandana Waddle Dee still able to defy all known laws of aviation in this remake?
"Bandana Dee, awaaaay~!" -Antdude
Despite only seeing gameplay Sand kind of reminds me of a more powerful Leaf
Guard is invincible and in a pile, similar attacks and strong
yeah there is no way a Waddle Dee should be able to fly. it doesn't have wings to get its fat little body off the ground. The Waddle Dee, of course, flies anyway, because Waddle Dees don't care what humans think is impossible.
Given pretty much any Helper that can't normally fly/levitate (also Flamberge) can infinitely jump, I just assume defying the laws of aviation and gravity is just a common thing in Kirbys world
And of course, Dream Land 2 gets announced to be coming to the Game Boy NSO service on the same day.
The final boss of Magolor Epilogue got me like: HOLY FUCK!!!!!! WHAT IS THIS?!?!?
Fun fact there is some concept art for kirby planet robobot that sugested that originally kirby was gonna be mechanized its possible that mecha was simply based on that idea
Well whaddya know; mere hours after you upload this video, Dream Land 2 gets shadowdropped on Switch Online! Neat.
Magolor's Epilogue was such a nice addition to this remake. It left me hoping that other Kirby characters will get their own side games in the future, not just Meta Knight and King Dedede. Imagine how fun an adventure with Adeline would be with her paint ability.
17:32 hammer flip was in the Wii version, you just couldn't charge it
I'm not sure if this was in the original, but Kirby moves faster when he has a Super Ability.
And the same day this video came out Kirby's Dreamland 2 came out in NSO
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I'm from europe, and the name change was so funny to me. It was like "huh, I guess Kirby's adventure WII isn't that timeless after all"😂
Currently having a blast with this game. So glad I can finally experience it after so long.
I thought Dedede's new look from Forgotten Land was just from that game, and this game.
I got this game for a nice chill platformer.
And I cannot understate just how powerful the outlines are for someone with poor vision. I've kind of always associated Kirby with being more accessible. Super Star Ultra was my previous favorite and go to Kirby game. This blew that out of the water in terms of how playable it is for me.
Also Spear Kirby is amazing. I love it.
Gonna be incredibly pedantic, but fun fact, the tower music specifically depends on if you're doing the hidden entrance or regular mode. In extra mode the music is still changed but to macho of dedede
The Kirby Guy woooo X3 I'm currently having a lot of fun doing co-op in this game and I sure hope it continues :D I believe it will :D awesome to hear your happy thoughts too :D
25:08 Scope shot wasn't scrapped entirely. Egg catcher brings back the mecha dedede from that mode, and the bazooka design was repurposed (and slightly redone) as the blaster design in the new booming blasters minigame, plus, add you said yourself, the scope shot title theme plays in one of the Hal rooms.
I think the reason they don’t have scope shot is due to the lack of pointer controls on the switch
Kirby on the draw does have similar gameplay to scope shot, so that's probably why scope shot was scrapped.
12:45 The dedede theme played for me going through the main route of 5-5 instead of the secret path
What’s a really neat detail is in the final phase of the Master Crown boss fight, parts of Soul of Sectonia play within the theme which makes sense as both we’re plant based horrors for final bosses.
and they were related to royalty technically!
Kirby's been within my dreams recently, and I couldn't be happier for it, considering what I'm wanting to get a career in my future! But I still can't believe they made a Tree the finale for Magolor, what's next from this!?
Would like it if Ant did a double down in cuteness by returning to A Hat in Time alongside the next Kirby, just so we can hear how much he truly loved both games as a whole.
Ant: Hopefully we can calm down with the Kirby stuff.
Kirby's Dream Land 2 on Switch: allow me to introduce myself.
26:10 Screw this mission
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I have to thank you for mentioning Sand looking like Dio because that is actually the first thing I thought of the moment I saw the green gem.
Random Kirby Fun Fact! The devs at Hal love Kirby so much to the point where they don't wanna see him get hurt, so they end up putting little to no enemies into the game as possible. This has gotten them in trouble muiltple times as Nintedo yelled at them for the lack of enemies in the levels.
Also here’s a fun fact: nobody cares you need to shut up
That is hilariously great
Honestly when I first started playing RtDLDX I wanted to try and defeat as little “enemies” as possible because they’re all just as adorable as Kirby. Especially the Waddle Dees, you had to save them to progress in The Forgotten Land. Super Copy Abilities make that nigh impossible.
Source trust me bro:
Uhh...literally a few hours after you posted this video, Dreamland 2 is now on Game Boy NSO.
Being a Kirby fan is a blessing.
i was so excited when this game was announced since i never got to play the original and now that ive beaten it, i can safely say its one of my favorite kirby games ever
Kirby is that series that nintendo likes to experiment with, if you count spin-offs, Kirby has tons and tons of games.
The part where sand kirby looks like dio I 100% agree with.(i thought i was the only one who thought that)also, kirby is now a jojo reference
I like how not even a day after Ant asks for a break from Kirby after all the new games and re-releases... We get Dreamland 2 on NSO...
RTDL was my childhood-glad to see it getting some proper love and attention in the modern day!
15:07 Yeah, don’t blame you in the least. I beat Extra Mode with the Sand ability, and then the True Arena with sand as well.
34:44 as much as I love these new attacks magolar soul does, I really would've preferred if the new attacks were actually the scrapped super abilities, Spark and Cutter (maybe even that scrapped time ability as a third new one)
This is probably one of the best remakes on the switch.
15:02 As a big Jojo fan, I appreciated this moment a lot
Am I seriously the only one who would've never even REALIZED Dedede's appearance changing between games, were the internet not constantly talking about it? Like, for real, to my eyes the changes are so subtle that I don't get it.
28:29 that's true, I did think he would
23:34 AHHH! CHECKERBOARD CHASE! That's my favorite minigame it was so fun!
1:43 My guy the literal DAY you uploaded this another Kirby game was announced to be coming to Nintendo Switch Online
Gotta say as someone who's intro to Kirby was the og return to dreamland, I lost my mind when I found out about this.
I am so happy that Return got ported, because I missed out on the Wii version.
It's a Remake, not a Port.
Crazy that me and AntDude92 use the same ability for the normal and true arenas (stone and sand) but sometimes I just torture my hands, wrists, arms and shoulders jo shake the damn controllers like a flipping rollercoaster with the spark ability.
I just need an Amazing Mirror remake in this art style 😤😁
Correction Samurai Kirby was originally called Quick Draw. Which came from (Kirby's Adventure) first.
Having a crappy day and then I see there's a new Antdude. Definitely less of a crappy day now. ❤️
Another thing is that on the difficulty selection screens, if you finish all the missions for said minigame, you get to change it to the original music
What a time it is to be a Kirby fan
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I'm so glad Kirby's always been my favorite franchise
12:21 they had us in the first half not gonna lie
9:47 *_DEAR GOD THANK YOU THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I MISSED IN THE ENTIRE G A M E_*
With amazing mirror being my favorite kirby game i am so hyped to play this all over again and collect everything three more times
The Kirby marathon is never ending