That’s the amazing thing of ninebot max! You can turn it into whatever you like, as long as you don’t exceed limits of resistance unless reinforced. Check out my group Esnkaz Ninebot max evolution USA. I post much more information there as well we can assist you with information where to get parts according to your needs!
You can double up battery if you can hack the controller. Definitely don’t add up speed. Scooter frame it’s weaker than regular g30. Sell it and get an old ninebot. All you would need it’s the frame and rebuild it with good parts. Use 48v up to 60v for regular commute on a g30. Not above with motors 1000w up to 1500w and not above.
One question, what kind of max amperages are you running on your firmwares since doesn't having two controllers and motors double the amperage draw from the battery system. For instance if you have firmware with 30A maximum on both controllers doesn't it then draw 60A max from battery system. If so do you still have stock bms on the battery which is limited if i remember correctly to 42A. And when having external battery with separate bms can you then just add both of those bms amps together to get the maximum amp draw from the system? Cool build and I might try to do this with another stock motor or would it be worth it. Currently running 72V system on stock motor and custom firmware with fieldweakening enabled having top speed of 60kmh as 100kg ish driver. The extra acceleration is what im interested in and probably top speed would increase a bit too.
Yes you need to replace the bms on your stock battery or upgrade the battery. We tried on stock battery and 24v external to convert to 60v but battery kept shutting off. We upgraded the battery bms with a 200a max discharge and that scooter is still running. However upgrading to a better battery would be the right thing to do. Set your controllers from wheel 38a continuous discharge and 64a peak. Motors of 11w on 60 on that set up are beast !
Hi man ✌🏼️ my ninebot max g30d 2 is running on 72v and I like to build dual motor setup with two vsett 10+ motors. Do you think I can do the install like in your video? And would that work for me?
Hey I’ve been meaning to ask, what size hole did you drill for the controller screws to thread in? Been meaning to mount mine securely for a while now, for better cooling
You need to hack it using ST-Link. If you don’t understand how to do it. You might need to get a hacked controller. As you need to make your own firmware knowing how.
No sir. Never. First scooter made in April 2022 still running on a daily basic under new owner who travels 11 miles each way to work 5 days a week. Motors were replaced with wolf warrior 1100w using dual D controllers and batteries 60v 25ah.
Its 1 throttle driving "2 scooters" using 1 battery source. It's essentially just 2 dashes and 2 controllers. There's a Y-cable from the upgraded battery to each controller. The throttle he uses (which has the same wiring as the normal throttle), is wired to both throttle inputs on each dash. He has one dash in the tube and one on top like normal.
@ESnKaz omg I'm doing it I have an extra controller and motor all I need is the dash dam bro u bring so much knowledge man love ur channel man imma be zooming all over the bay area lol
@@esnkaz So its the stock controller no hardware mods just a custom firmware correct? And also do i need to disable regen or something like that or is it all safe to leave as is?
@@esnkaz Great explanations, but still, the part with the brakes is not clear... your build has NO BRAKES ? at all ? how you stop? Why the controllers to be burned if connect the brake lever ? that happened to you ? are you sure is because of that ? because there are other movies with similar dual motor setup and people do use brakes ....
@@tangoztek scooter comes with electrical brakes. Which activate when pressing the lever for the front brake. Lever has a sensor which is wired up and connects to the dashboard and so to the main controller. There is no firmware that will avoid the burning of controllers when upgrading to higher power if the lever contact is not detached from the system. (Which means if lever its connected to the system, current will push back causing the controller to smoke) That’s why physical hydraulic or wires brakes are added with rotors for scooters. I hope this is more clear.
@@tangoztek scooter comes with electrical brakes. Which activate when pressing the lever for the front brake. Lever has a sensor which is wired up and connects to the dashboard and so to the main controller. There is no firmware that will avoid the burning of controllers when upgrading to higher power if the lever contact is not detached from the system. (Which means if lever its connected to the system, current will push back causing the controller to smoke) That’s why physical hydraulic or wires brakes are added with rotors for scooters. I hope this is more clear.
Jeje all it’s in there if you follow closely. Only thing you would need to figure it it’s the firmware. As well best suspension for second motor would be front suspension.
If you noticed in the video I mention wires size as well connectors upgrade. Wires and connectors tent to get hot but not to extreme where they will burn. Recommended for set ups 10 gauge wires that hold up to 600v with XT90 connectors
Thank you Esnkaz for upgrading my scooter. I am loving it, the 2 Kaabo motors makes a huge difference. 🙏🔥
Dude. In-depth!! Thank you for your service and your diligence with testing and sharing this information. Thank you!!
Amazing video. I'm picking up my ninebot max g30 tomorrow. So excited to know I can upgrade it
That’s the amazing thing of ninebot max! You can turn it into whatever you like, as long as you don’t exceed limits of resistance unless reinforced. Check out my group Esnkaz Ninebot max evolution USA. I post much more information there as well we can assist you with information where to get parts according to your needs!
@@esnkaz thanks so much
Bro I love the video!!! You should get tri taps to make bridges I think they have 22 gauge
Thank you Anthony. T-taps are great and used them in the pass but they are NOT as great as soldering wires and heat shrink.
I have ninebot F2 Plus, its like the G 30 but smaller.. anyways, can i supply directly 60volts or i have to change anything?
You can double up battery if you can hack the controller. Definitely don’t add up speed. Scooter frame it’s weaker than regular g30. Sell it and get an old ninebot. All you would need it’s the frame and rebuild it with good parts. Use 48v up to 60v for regular commute on a g30. Not above with motors 1000w up to 1500w and not above.
Love the video!
One question, what kind of max amperages are you running on your firmwares since doesn't having two controllers and motors double the amperage draw from the battery system. For instance if you have firmware with 30A maximum on both controllers doesn't it then draw 60A max from battery system. If so do you still have stock bms on the battery which is limited if i remember correctly to 42A. And when having external battery with separate bms can you then just add both of those bms amps together to get the maximum amp draw from the system? Cool build and I might try to do this with another stock motor or would it be worth it. Currently running 72V system on stock motor and custom firmware with fieldweakening enabled having top speed of 60kmh as 100kg ish driver. The extra acceleration is what im interested in and probably top speed would increase a bit too.
Yes you need to replace the bms on your stock battery or upgrade the battery. We tried on stock battery and 24v external to convert to 60v but battery kept shutting off. We upgraded the battery bms with a 200a max discharge and that scooter is still running. However upgrading to a better battery would be the right thing to do. Set your controllers from wheel 38a continuous discharge and 64a peak. Motors of 11w on 60 on that set up are beast !
Hi man ✌🏼️ my ninebot max g30d 2 is running on 72v and I like to build dual motor setup with two vsett 10+ motors. Do you think I can do the install like in your video? And would that work for me?
And where do i get a Hall sensor plug please 😅
Done several with D controllers. No issues so far on 60V 25Ah. battery.
where can we buy that throttle? and how are the wires connected to the dash?
Wait so why did you say the controllers are burning up? I don't understand that part, you bridge the brakes but don't plug the brakes in at all?
Correct. Simply set up the controller, disable the kerks and then unplug lever from Dash board.
Hey I’ve been meaning to ask, what size hole did you drill for the controller screws to thread in? Been meaning to mount mine securely for a while now, for better cooling
M4 tread maker x 4mm deep. Screws m4x8mm
@@esnkaz thanks! I appreciate the info. I’ll get right on that haha
Do you need to swap the cables for the front motor just like the back or no
How do I activate the G30D controller to work on the G30? Thanks
You need to hack it using ST-Link. If you don’t understand how to do it. You might need to get a hacked controller. As you need to make your own firmware knowing how.
At the end did you had some errors on your display?
No sir. Never. First scooter made in April 2022 still running on a daily basic under new owner who travels 11 miles each way to work 5 days a week. Motors were replaced with wolf warrior 1100w using dual D controllers and batteries 60v 25ah.
Could u share the wire diagram plz??
Its 1 throttle driving "2 scooters" using 1 battery source. It's essentially just 2 dashes and 2 controllers.
There's a Y-cable from the upgraded battery to each controller.
The throttle he uses (which has the same wiring as the normal throttle), is wired to both throttle inputs on each dash. He has one dash in the tube and one on top like normal.
can i fit a 60v battery inisde the deck og the ninebot max ?
Nop.
Do I have to upgrade my battery for this set up
Si quire si :) but not have to.
@ESnKaz omg I'm doing it I have an extra controller and motor all I need is the dash dam bro u bring so much knowledge man love ur channel man imma be zooming all over the bay area lol
I still don’t understand, you didn’t show what motors you use for the whole video ...
Hello, so if I do the stock battery in series with 24v one will it be all safe?
Have been using 36v 15Ah. (Stock) internal And 24v 15Ah external for the last 7 month no problem. Controllers installed inside the scooter.
@@esnkaz So its the stock controller no hardware mods just a custom firmware correct? And also do i need to disable regen or something like that or is it all safe to leave as is?
@@Dj2006 please full length of video. All info in details.
🎉🎉🎉
Can I pay you to do mine 😅
No soldering? Rofl I'm dead
@@lekrsu ?
what about brakes buddy? no point in going faster if you can’t stop homie
@@jimski7711 right that’s why you need to do set ups mentioned l
@@esnkaz Great explanations, but still, the part with the brakes is not clear... your build has NO BRAKES ? at all ? how you stop? Why the controllers to be burned if connect the brake lever ? that happened to you ? are you sure is because of that ? because there are other movies with similar dual motor setup and people do use brakes ....
@@tangoztek scooter comes with electrical brakes. Which activate when pressing the lever for the front brake. Lever has a sensor which is wired up and connects to the dashboard and so to the main controller. There is no firmware that will avoid the burning of controllers when upgrading to higher power if the lever contact is not detached from the system. (Which means if lever its connected to the system, current will push back causing the controller to smoke) That’s why physical hydraulic or wires brakes are added with rotors for scooters. I hope this is more clear.
@@tangoztek scooter comes with electrical brakes. Which activate when pressing the lever for the front brake. Lever has a sensor which is wired up and connects to the dashboard and so to the main controller. There is no firmware that will avoid the burning of controllers when upgrading to higher power if the lever contact is not detached from the system. (Which means if lever its connected to the system, current will push back causing the controller to smoke) That’s why physical hydraulic or wires brakes are added with rotors for scooters. I hope this is more clear.
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Thats way above my skill level without an instruction manual😳
Jeje all it’s in there if you follow closely. Only thing you would need to figure it it’s the firmware. As well best suspension for second motor would be front suspension.
The wires cannot handle that, aren’t they’re going to be too hot.!
nop.
If you noticed in the video I mention wires size as well connectors upgrade. Wires and connectors tent to get hot but not to extreme where they will burn. Recommended for set ups 10 gauge wires that hold up to 600v with XT90 connectors
Wish there was a diagram to follow..Hard to watch the video, listen and do the work at the same time..
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