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I was impressed at the extra CPC insulation making it able to withstand a nail through it. Saves fooling around on April 1st looking for a low L-E IR reading
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Almost fell for it.. I was even thinking in my head how they’d have to make the accessory CPC terminals bigger to allow for the bigger sized CPC conductors 🤣
Word on the street is that in the next revision the cpc will be double the size of the Line and Neutral conductors. That means in circuits where no cpc is needed you can parallel the Line and Neutral cores to get a 3mmsq out of a 1.5mmsq cable.
I love my cable stapler, wouldn’t leave home without it. Find it particulacy useful in diagonal and curved chases where I sometimes can’t bend the capping to fit
You BUGGERS!! You had me! All the way up to the end. Only when Gordon repeated 1st April 2024 and MI coming in, in scotland.. Plop.. the penny dropped. I'm so disappointed in you two 🤣🤣🤣 Enjoy the rest of your weekend, you have earned it.
@@TheMiniMammoth Because flex means not solid, but ... Flex In Europe you can buy 3 solid core round cables. NYM-J/MBCu as you mentioned. He wa suggesting a BullSh.. I mean British Standard implementation of this
Bought time you guys got into the 90C insulation standard. Our cables have been technically 90C rated for years. Though our standards still reference 60/65/70 for legacy reasons.
Had me fooled for a while - that lsf cable is a pain to strip compared to the standard t&E plus I was thinking about all the new calculations etc - it’s only when you mentioned the date it comes into affect I worked it out - well done (also calling it an earth rather than a cpc was a give away!)
Damn it - you got me. Totally forgot it was april 1st until they brought it up at the end of the video! Judging by the comments - alot of people also forgot the date!
Had me going for a minute!! I was preparing to go out to my distributors & ordering some for my upcoming rewire ... Then of course - Todays date hit me, plus your reference to when this standard is replacing all others 😂😂😂
Brilliantly done. Was in process of signing in to WhatsApp my daughter and son-in-law with the link as they are in the process of doing lots of work on their new-to-them 19th century southeast London terraced house. Then realised the date. Thing is, as others have commented, it makes a lot of sense. As a DiYer, I used conduit between almost all my boxes and only regret not doing it when I first started on our house gut and re-build and I listened to electrician friends. I did use smoke-fire resistant 3CE for my mains powered and linked smoke alarms. I always check the work of professional registered sparkies who have always been sloppy with big diameter sleeving, loose (not doubled over) terminations, and otherwise incompetent
Actually, they should because they would share cable standard with most of the EU. Having to have another item in your pockets, the sleeve, is unnecessary. Too much crap in there already.
Hi Guys, I started to watch this video and after about 30 seconds I thought, " Its about time they started using the proper cable we have all been using in Ireland since 2017" and about 10 seconds later I realized this is a wind up. Nice one....but we have loads of that cable over here if ya need some
I'm having my house rewired soon so I will now wait for this cable to be used as I won't be having it done again. Thanks for the information. I will ask the electrician to use this new cable.
I met someone yesterday who was telling everyone in the workshop about the new T&E cable coming in next year. I didn't believe it til i saw this video. I knew Gary would have all the latest news on it. Cheers Gaz 😉
I thought that the protective conductor was one of its functions was to protect the cable if it was damaged. if the cpc is sleeved than it can not protect the cable.
I thought the bare conductor was to increase the chance of a fault being spotted by devices and therefore failing to safe. As you showed and said about putting a staple through the cable, there could be a chance that cable passes the test sequence. This might not be good in the longer term.
I was hoping to see an announcement of wire-free electricity distribution today - get rid of those pesky cables completely and make it all wireless. Everything else is wireless these days...
Lol, next year you should say we are returning to the old days with single insulated cable’s being surface mounted with wooden blocks and wooden/Bakelite accessories and wooden rewritable fuse carriers
Always. Plus Pirelli will only be making smaller manufacturing runs (as U.K. only) so you can be sure they’ll be shortages of the new spec from day one..🤔
I love how it builds up to be more ridiculous by the minute. I thought it was real at first! .. Being from the Netherlands might help, where we already have the luxury of same-diameter sleeved earth 😉
@@sciencetestsubject okay, but by that point we’re thoroughly not in regular-everyday-sparky territory any more. (Presumably there has to be some expectation that said three phase hookup won’t be asymmetrically loaded in regular use to the point where the N would carry very high currents - and I have to admit I cannot think of a situation where that would happen unless it’s a subframe distribution situation and you deliberately turn off exactly the right 2/3 of the load.)
This has got to be the all time best April Fool video ever. I guess Doncaster cables had a few calls to order this new cable lol. Then the excitement of the new rules within the industry and electricians. Fantastic. Interesting to note how other countries have different wiring . 😂
I got an idea the other day, imagine a round hole in the wall when installing sockets or switches. Imagine how easy and fast it would be to drill a ROUND hole, OMG.
Meanwhile, Australia has been using insulated, multistrand earths for decades. The only thing which got some crusties over-excited was the change from a thick spongey sheath to a thinner, tougher one. "Look, they've made the wires thinner, what garbage.", etc.
Okay, got me but might happen in future? Low smoke good. White colour fine Another question: does the outer react / degrade when in contact with expanded polystyrene?
I was nearly falling for this, but just kept thinking of why the cpc doesn’t have sleeving, and thought, if bigger surface area and being insulated really improved safety, it would of been changed at least a decade ago.
I think more problems covering earth conductors. If a nail only hits one conductor then it could carry current. The CPC was a good way to cause a trip if you went through a cable.
Historically it was considered a safety feature for the earth to be uninsulated. I am not sure why this has changed and it is now safer for it to be insulated. Probably the people in charge today need to go and talk to the original designers of the UK wiring system.
I would think the presence of an RCD should allow earthing requirements to be loosened. If a slight bit of an uninsulated live wire projects from a connection point, but no uninsulated sections of any wires would be long enough to reach any others, there would be no possibility of a short, but having a bare copper wire in the box would add such a risk. The presence of an RCD, however, would mean that any ground short which could pass more than 30mA would instantly trigger a power shutoff whether or not the fault current was anywhere near the normal overload current. An earthing wire would need to be large enough to pass fault currents long enough to trip an RCD, but that's nowhere near the size that would be needed to handle the worst-case fault currents that could yield a slow breaker trip.
It's a shame that it's not going to be manufactured. Would be a benefit with pre insulated cpc . Also the 25mm twin for sub mains would be good. As usual if it sounds like a good idea and makes common sense it won't make it into the wiring regs book of madness.
I always thought it would be a good idea to phase out PVC cabling for fixed wiring as LSZH cables don’t propagate a fire in the same way as they don’t carbonise in the same way when arcing occurs. They also represent a much more cost effective solution to improve safety over AFDDs based on AFDDs current costs. Good video though and just the right amount of plausibility to keep the joke going 😂
You mentioned this is coming in to England and Wales, but Scotland will have its own. What about Northern Ireland, who are they going to follow? Also with slightly different standards in the UK in general, how will that affect cross boarder building firms and keeping inventory. Do they now have to keep different standards for each country.
Still waiting for product manufacturers in Europe to find out about "Harmonised wiring", they use any colours they like for phases, purple-white-black is common, so is brown-blue-grey, whatever cable they get cheap, and motors on the same product models are randomly CW or CCW depending on the mood.
Is there any particular reason why electrical and plumbing installations, for domestic, do not have to produce wire and pipe diagrams. If there were these diagrams it would be easier to plan for additional installations? I would be very interested to here your comments.
I'm from Czech republic but Im currently working here in UK as sparky and we mostly using in dwellings CYKY cables which looks like same as NYY cables. For sockets circuits we using CYKY-J (NYY-J) 3x2.5mm² with OCPD B16A in radial.(We don't use a ring as here in UK). For lighting circuts we using CYKY-J (NYY-J) 3x1.5mm² with OCPD B6A or B10A (depends on load). For intermidiately switchers or 2gang 1 way switches we using CYKY-O (NYY-O). Both circuits sockets and lights must be protected by 30mA RCD type A but most old dwellings are protected by type AC. Maximum permited sockets in one radial circuit is 10 sockets. We also using same imstallation method as here in UK except method 100 , 101, 102, 103 in block flat because they're build from concreate. In houses we using 3phase main incomming, so for example If do you need 3f sockets for circular saw etc. In Czech republic is not allowed to use main fuse or service head inside dwelling (flat or house). Main incomming is mostly etiher CYKY cables or SWA depends where and how is cable installed, so we don't use single core cables like here in UK. If someone anyhow make a changes without permissiom to a main distribution board or bypass meter and any electrician will find out, he can remove it and straight contact DNO and they'll pay him for a job what he was invited not like here in the UK. If you want to provide a Inspection and testing you must have as a minimum 4 years experiences otherwise you not allowed to provide it.(issue EIC etc.).(check decree 50/1978 and their phragraphs). We also use same prescribed zones for cables installation and zones in bathroom. In my opinion there is not that much differences between UK and Czech standarts.
If the 25mm T&E cable is brought in what sized CPC will it have & will the CPC be sleeved already? Doesn’t meter tails longer than 3 metres & installed through fabric of the building need RCD protection? If so shouldn’t it have 100mA RCD protection?
Just what I was thinking. This basically is a description of the actual Australian Standards requirements - insulated earth yes, minimum 1.5mm2 and so on.
I've often wondered how the industry could justify the earth conductor being one size smaller than the phase and neutral when surely the earth needs to have as low a resistance as possible. So it's about time the situation was put right, it's long overdue. And they had hard wiring cables in Belgium with fully insulated earth conductors of the same cross sectional area way back in 1995, I know as I went on a day trip over there and the coach took us to Oostende and there was a DIY shed there so I got a bit curious about their underfloor cables so I went in and had a look and they had hard cables there but they weren't flat like ours here in the UK, they were round like flex. And they had some with three brown conductors and a green/yellow, very odd, I suppose it was for wiring two way switches but it's a bit awkward when the lives are all the same colour, you'd have to treat it like it was copper sheathed mineral insulated cable like the stuff used in public buildings.
Almost had me there till you mentioned 25mm cable. The irony is though that Ireland have a twin and cpc that DOES have the cpc sheathed. It just weighs more and cost more. About time we did adopt this if it was really true.
wonder if this practice will hit N. America... I like the idea of a insulated ground wire for the residential sector.... romex has always had a bare ground....
Not bcs green/yellow wire one can be used in a lot of siutuations as a live conductor. Additionally cable is perfectly rounded makes it easier to install and remove insulation
Ever heard of green/yellow heat shrink. the cable is getting more and more like 3 core flex. I remember 1.029, 1.044 7.029 etc, twin and twin & earth before the days of metrification cable standard. I believe that the Gov want to go back to Imperial Measurement. Standards slipping or not. Better fire protection now. But please use fixing screws not nails to fix cable boxes, my old Forman would have clipped my ear nailing them like that.
Wow . Very interesting, I do like the sleeves CPC however a bit disappointed aswell. I’ve always liked the design of the expensed CPC to almost guarantee disconnection via L-E or N-E . Moving to LSF for all installations is excellent. I’ve been saying for a while that I beleive this would happen, and the new 25.0mm T and E is superb. So many installations poorly done due to either lack of knowledge or cost savings so now hopefully 🤞 the issues we have seen time and time again with supply cables in domestic will be gone. Bravo 👏🏻
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Think you need a second video explaining this is an April Fools lol sw it doing rounds on electrical blogs 😅
Yes, very immature. God you guys have all the time to wast on jokes
Such a shame these new products always get released on 1st April. Makes it harder to take these improvements seriously......
I was impressed at the extra CPC insulation making it able to withstand a nail through it. Saves fooling around on April 1st looking for a low L-E IR reading
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Absolutely superb - I’m no sparkie so I was with it up until you guys were sticking staples through cables! Totally well done guys!!!
Almost fell for it.. I was even thinking in my head how they’d have to make the accessory CPC terminals bigger to allow for the bigger sized CPC conductors 🤣
Well they have done this now, the updated video I watched not so long ago.
OMG. Can’t believe I fell for this!!!! Just heard myself taking to someone about the new T&E regs coming in next April. It was only then I realised.
It's good to see old traditions convincingly continued. I was half expecting the Scottish variation to be a tartan CPC 😉
We’ll bag that one for another year!
I cant believe I swallowed that for a minute or two...good work lads...i think that is 2 years in a row you got me ...
Word on the street is that in the next revision the cpc will be double the size of the Line and Neutral conductors. That means in circuits where no cpc is needed you can parallel the Line and Neutral cores to get a 3mmsq out of a 1.5mmsq cable.
I love my cable stapler, wouldn’t leave home without it. Find it particulacy useful in diagonal and curved chases where I sometimes can’t bend the capping to fit
You are the guy that fixes the back boxes on with a cable clip as demoed in the video 😂😂😂.
I admire the curves much harder to chase than straight runs
New cable with insulated earth wire?
To good to be true! 😂
and now we have it from Doncaster cables...
Wow they catched up to normal european standards 😂
Exactly what I was thinking 😂
Same here, was my First thought. Quite ironic though
Welcome to 1995 for Europe, basically...
Tbf i like british electrics apart from the ring circuits and sleeveless PE. I love their metal DB and double insulated 25mm² meter tails.
Must be a Brexit thing 😂
You BUGGERS!! You had me! All the way up to the end. Only when Gordon repeated 1st April 2024 and MI coming in, in scotland.. Plop.. the penny dropped. I'm so disappointed in you two 🤣🤣🤣 Enjoy the rest of your weekend, you have earned it.
Thanks Jolly 😂
Damn it you got me till the end I was nearly quitting again 😂
in all honesty if they really did do this they could at least make the cable round
I agree
I don’t know how to say this, have you heard of flex 🤪
@@Jack-zu4ke haven’t seen any solid core flex yet mate 😂. I’m talking about a NYM style cable with a BS number
@@TheMiniMammoth Because flex means not solid, but ... Flex
In Europe you can buy 3 solid core round cables. NYM-J/MBCu as you mentioned. He wa suggesting a BullSh.. I mean British Standard implementation of this
Good to see you playing catch up, over the pond. Been using this for ages in Ireland 🍀
You had me right until nearly the end. Very good 👏🏼
Bought time you guys got into the 90C insulation standard. Our cables have been technically 90C rated for years. Though our standards still reference 60/65/70 for legacy reasons.
Had me fooled for a while - that lsf cable is a pain to strip compared to the standard t&E plus I was thinking about all the new calculations etc - it’s only when you mentioned the date it comes into affect I worked it out - well done (also calling it an earth rather than a cpc was a give away!)
Damn it - you got me. Totally forgot it was april 1st until they brought it up at the end of the video! Judging by the comments - alot of people also forgot the date!
It feels like every April there's a new cable standard released that you get unique access to. 😂
Manufacturers know how to get the word out 😂
As they said, we are already using these cables in Ireland & they are no joke 😅
Good! Now time to switch to our swedish junktion boxes (do not know where else they are used). And the way we pull cables in the wall.
Had me going for a minute!!
I was preparing to go out to my distributors & ordering some for my upcoming rewire ...
Then of course - Todays date hit me, plus your reference to when this standard is replacing all others 😂😂😂
Watch Gary’s install near the end
Glad you got the message 😂
Wow . good. we are factory producing the cable. thanks for your video New British Standard for Electric Cables. XPLE insulatedand LSZH sheathed.
Quality work! Especially the cable routing 🤣🤣🤣
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You’ve got to be taking the MICC, not many domestic installers will be able to make off the pot ends 😂❤
Brilliantly done. Was in process of signing in to WhatsApp my daughter and son-in-law with the link as they are in the process of doing lots of work on their new-to-them 19th century southeast London terraced house. Then realised the date. Thing is, as others have commented, it makes a lot of sense. As a DiYer, I used conduit between almost all my boxes and only regret not doing it when I first started on our house gut and re-build and I listened to electrician friends. I did use smoke-fire resistant 3CE for my mains powered and linked smoke alarms. I always check the work of professional registered sparkies who have always been sloppy with big diameter sleeving, loose (not doubled over) terminations, and otherwise incompetent
Where I live it's standard to have insulated ground wire and I'm more surprised that it isn't insulated as standard internationally.
As a DIYer you shouldn't be doing electrics
Finally! So surprised UK haven't adopted this standard.
Actually, they should because they would share cable standard with most of the EU. Having to have another item in your pockets, the sleeve, is unnecessary. Too much crap in there already.
Hi Guys,
I started to watch this video and after about 30 seconds I thought, " Its about time they started using the proper cable we have all been using in Ireland since 2017" and about 10 seconds later I realized this is a wind up. Nice one....but we have loads of that cable over here if ya need some
I'm having my house rewired soon so I will now wait for this cable to be used as I won't be having it done again. Thanks for the information. I will ask the electrician to use this new cable.
I have this cable from some one house over 15 years ago and earth it’s fully insulated i was amazed to see that
I met someone yesterday who was telling everyone in the workshop about the new T&E cable coming in next year. I didn't believe it til i saw this video. I knew Gary would have all the latest news on it. Cheers Gaz 😉
I thought that the protective conductor was one of its functions was to protect the cable if it was damaged. if the cpc is sleeved than it can not protect the cable.
Completely agree with scotland, MI everywhere 😛
The future - hopefully we’ll catch up
Always interesting to see other countries wiring standards.
For years UK electricians have been telling me how safer the UK standard is compared to the Dutch one, well for once I can say, welcome to our world!
You cant teach a old dog new tricks.
Thank god for the earth insulation. About time!
I thought the bare conductor was to increase the chance of a fault being spotted by devices and therefore failing to safe. As you showed and said about putting a staple through the cable, there could be a chance that cable passes the test sequence. This might not be good in the longer term.
those staples are debatable just use conduit make it easy for the next electrician
You've seen the date, right?
@@jacksonroad9263 those staples are ceramic
I was hoping to see an announcement of wire-free electricity distribution today - get rid of those pesky cables completely and make it all wireless. Everything else is wireless these days...
Tesla( the main) tried that)
Scottish sparkies gonna be hard as nails after wrestling that all day.
Under the current building regs you have to use low smoke cable in buildings the public can use.
So that must include communal areas in flats etc
Lol, next year you should say we are returning to the old days with single insulated cable’s being surface mounted with wooden blocks and wooden/Bakelite accessories and wooden rewritable fuse carriers
So you’ve finally caught up to Australia. We’ve been using those since the 90’s
We've had this here in Australia forever,welcome to the modern era.!!
Had me there.
Though since many countries have such a cable in their standards already, it's hardly out there.
Great idea.. now we can use the cpc as a line conductor due to proper insulation 😂
It's nice to see they increased the temperature rating, but I'd still do my best to keep temperatures touch friendly if I worked over there.
Haha i laughed out loud when you stapled the cable 🤣
Finally. It was weird. On the mainland we have used the 'new' standard for ages now.
I presume this will add another 100% to the cost. Just what we need!
Always. Plus Pirelli will only be making smaller manufacturing runs (as U.K. only) so you can be sure they’ll be shortages of the new spec from day one..🤔
Nicely presented Entertainment for 1st of April :-)
That 0.75mm you released a year ago has taken off. 😂🎉
You know it would be nice if the cable had the brown or the blue colour dotted on the side it’s on. Would make some installs easier.
might move to Scotland just so i can work on MI cable installations every day of the week :)
I love how it builds up to be more ridiculous by the minute. I thought it was real at first!
.. Being from the Netherlands might help, where we already have the luxury of same-diameter sleeved earth 😉
The *real* April fools is that there are still countries that don’t have same-diameter sleeved earth.
In three phase systems with cable bigger than 95mm2 in the Netherlands it's actually allowed to have a half size neutral conductor
@@sciencetestsubject okay, but by that point we’re thoroughly not in regular-everyday-sparky territory any more.
(Presumably there has to be some expectation that said three phase hookup won’t be asymmetrically loaded in regular use to the point where the N would carry very high currents - and I have to admit I cannot think of a situation where that would happen unless it’s a subframe distribution situation and you deliberately turn off exactly the right 2/3 of the load.)
I heard Scotland was going insulation free. More space for screws and staples.
This has got to be the all time best April Fool video ever. I guess Doncaster cables had a few calls to order this new cable lol. Then the excitement of the new rules within the industry and electricians. Fantastic. Interesting to note how other countries have different wiring . 😂
Thanks Gino - we think DC did get a few calls
Have been using this in Eire for two years, 2nd fix takes five times longer. I might move to Scotland I used to love doing MICC. Haha
I got an idea the other day, imagine a round hole in the wall when installing sockets or switches. Imagine how easy and fast it would be to drill a ROUND hole, OMG.
I saw fairies at the bottom of the garden the other day. One was electrocuted when it stepped on a bare earth wire connected remotely to Electroboom.
Meanwhile, Australia has been using insulated, multistrand earths for decades. The only thing which got some crusties over-excited was the change from a thick spongey sheath to a thinner, tougher one. "Look, they've made the wires thinner, what garbage.", etc.
Ok you had me going right until the end you tinkers! 😆😆👍❤️
Very good guys, very good!
Okay, got me but might happen in future?
Low smoke good. White colour fine
Another question: does the outer react / degrade when in contact with expanded polystyrene?
Skipped to the bit about Scotland and MI cable and honestly believed you for a while!!🤣
I was nearly falling for this, but just kept thinking of why the cpc doesn’t have sleeving, and thought, if bigger surface area and being insulated really improved safety, it would of been changed at least a decade ago.
In Ireland they can't use standard twin and earth with bare copper, they can only use twin and earth that's fully insulated like this
Its been in Ireland for a few year, so id say yere on the road to be getting it too
@@michaelboyes4948 in fact the cable pictured appears to be Irish standard cable
Sleeved cpc in twin and earth is the highest stupidity. Bare cpc will make contact easier with damaged live conductors to ensure ADS.
You guys!!! Best one of the day that! 😅😅
Thanks
I think more problems covering earth conductors. If a nail only hits one conductor then it could carry current. The CPC was a good way to cause a trip if you went through a cable.
they finally insulated the earth? Here in Belgium it's been like that forever and for good reason... Well done lads
or not...
Historically it was considered a safety feature for the earth to be uninsulated. I am not sure why this has changed and it is now safer for it to be insulated. Probably the people in charge today need to go and talk to the original designers of the UK wiring system.
I would think the presence of an RCD should allow earthing requirements to be loosened. If a slight bit of an uninsulated live wire projects from a connection point, but no uninsulated sections of any wires would be long enough to reach any others, there would be no possibility of a short, but having a bare copper wire in the box would add such a risk. The presence of an RCD, however, would mean that any ground short which could pass more than 30mA would instantly trigger a power shutoff whether or not the fault current was anywhere near the normal overload current. An earthing wire would need to be large enough to pass fault currents long enough to trip an RCD, but that's nowhere near the size that would be needed to handle the worst-case fault currents that could yield a slow breaker trip.
It's a shame that it's not going to be manufactured. Would be a benefit with pre insulated cpc . Also the 25mm twin for sub mains would be good. As usual if it sounds like a good idea and makes common sense it won't make it into the wiring regs book of madness.
I always thought it would be a good idea to phase out PVC cabling for fixed wiring as LSZH cables don’t propagate a fire in the same way as they don’t carbonise in the same way when arcing occurs. They also represent a much more cost effective solution to improve safety over AFDDs based on AFDDs current costs.
Good video though and just the right amount of plausibility to keep the joke going 😂
You mentioned this is coming in to England and Wales, but Scotland will have its own. What about Northern Ireland, who are they going to follow? Also with slightly different standards in the UK in general, how will that affect cross boarder building firms and keeping inventory. Do they now have to keep different standards for each country.
Lol, it’s regulation in the Netherlands for as long as I know. So much easier. Even when it’s April fools 😊
Also in Ireland 🇮🇪- you know we like to hold on to old ways.,
@@efixx And Australia, they've had insulated CPC for years
Every country apart from the UK*
@A_D The US also has non-sleeved earth in Romex cable.
Regards from CHILE!!!
Still waiting for product manufacturers in Europe to find out about "Harmonised wiring", they use any colours they like for phases, purple-white-black is common, so is brown-blue-grey, whatever cable they get cheap, and motors on the same product models are randomly CW or CCW depending on the mood.
Is there any particular reason why electrical and plumbing installations, for domestic, do not have to produce wire and pipe diagrams. If there were these diagrams it would be easier to plan for additional installations? I would be very interested to here your comments.
I'm from Czech republic but Im currently working here in UK as sparky and we mostly using in dwellings CYKY cables which looks like same as NYY cables.
For sockets circuits we using CYKY-J (NYY-J) 3x2.5mm² with OCPD B16A in radial.(We don't use a ring as here in UK).
For lighting circuts we using CYKY-J (NYY-J) 3x1.5mm² with OCPD B6A or B10A (depends on load).
For intermidiately switchers or 2gang 1 way switches we using CYKY-O (NYY-O).
Both circuits sockets and lights must be protected by 30mA RCD type A but most old dwellings are protected by type AC.
Maximum permited sockets in one radial circuit is 10 sockets.
We also using same imstallation method as here in UK except method 100 , 101, 102, 103 in block flat because they're build from concreate.
In houses we using 3phase main incomming, so for example If do you need 3f sockets for circular saw etc.
In Czech republic is not allowed to use main fuse or service head inside dwelling (flat or house).
Main incomming is mostly etiher CYKY cables or SWA depends where and how is cable installed, so we don't use single core cables like here in UK.
If someone anyhow make a changes without permissiom to a main distribution board or bypass meter and any electrician will find out, he can remove it and straight contact DNO and they'll pay him for a job what he was invited not like here in the UK.
If you want to provide a Inspection and testing you must have as a minimum 4 years experiences otherwise you not allowed to provide it.(issue EIC etc.).(check decree 50/1978 and their phragraphs).
We also use same prescribed zones for cables installation and zones in bathroom.
In my opinion there is not that much differences between UK and Czech standarts.
You do realise this was posted on the 1st of April don’t you?
You two are a pair of shits😂. Look how many people have taken you seriously. Good job, cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
It always boggled my mind why UK didn't already have insulated earth. Good change.
it was the adiabatic equation that did it for me .Try and work that one out
What do you think of this new cable standard?
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I think it’s sad that this isn’t a standard that we will see in the UK for 10 years or more, but at least Efixx has already made the video! 😊
I reckon by 12 o'clock it might get cancelled 😂
@@tlangdon12 theyre forward thinking at Efixx, they will just be able to dig the footage out and overdub the dates
@@Wintersky136 what date is it ?
Knowledge is power
If the 25mm T&E cable is brought in what sized CPC will it have & will the CPC be sleeved already?
Doesn’t meter tails longer than 3 metres & installed through fabric of the building need RCD protection? If so shouldn’t it have 100mA RCD protection?
These changes (particularly insulating earth) looks very similar to what Australia has had for a very long time!
Just what I was thinking. This basically is a description of the actual Australian Standards requirements - insulated earth yes, minimum 1.5mm2 and so on.
I've often wondered how the industry could justify the earth conductor being one size smaller than the phase and neutral when surely the earth needs to have as low a resistance as possible. So it's about time the situation was put right, it's long overdue. And they had hard wiring cables in Belgium with fully insulated earth conductors of the same cross sectional area way back in 1995, I know as I went on a day trip over there and the coach took us to Oostende and there was a DIY shed there so I got a bit curious about their underfloor cables so I went in and had a look and they had hard cables there but they weren't flat like ours here in the UK, they were round like flex. And they had some with three brown conductors and a green/yellow, very odd, I suppose it was for wiring two way switches but it's a bit awkward when the lives are all the same colour, you'd have to treat it like it was copper sheathed mineral insulated cable like the stuff used in public buildings.
Good effort 👌 😅
hook line and sinker :) a consultant asked me to look into it :)
Almost had me there till you mentioned 25mm cable. The irony is though that Ireland have a twin and cpc that DOES have the cpc sheathed. It just weighs more and cost more. About time we did adopt this if it was really true.
I think the white cable pictured is actually Irish standard
@Daniel Smith yes, i read the post afterwards, which explained that.
Very good guys 😉
wonder if this practice will hit N. America... I like the idea of a insulated ground wire for the residential sector.... romex has always had a bare ground....
Watched all the way through and was about to share this video.. then checked the comments and realised the date 😜😂
Australia has used an insulated earth conductor for well over twenty years.
We are using same type of cables since 1960ish . Fully isolated earth and same surface area on every conductor:)
So you've been wasting copper for 60 years ?
Not bcs green/yellow wire one can be used in a lot of siutuations as a live conductor. Additionally cable is perfectly rounded makes it easier to install and remove insulation
Same as in Germany for decades adn dozens of other countries
@@bojangazibaric3328 so what are you using for circuit protection if you're using the green/yellow as a live conductor.
Ever heard of green/yellow heat shrink. the cable is getting more and more like 3 core flex. I remember 1.029, 1.044 7.029 etc, twin and twin & earth before the days of metrification cable standard. I believe that the Gov want to go back to Imperial Measurement. Standards slipping or not. Better fire protection now. But please use fixing screws not nails to fix cable boxes, my old Forman would have clipped my ear nailing them like that.
Wow . Very interesting, I do like the sleeves CPC however a bit disappointed aswell. I’ve always liked the design of the expensed CPC to almost guarantee disconnection via L-E or N-E .
Moving to LSF for all installations is excellent. I’ve been saying for a while that I beleive this would happen, and the new 25.0mm T and E is superb. So many installations poorly done due to either lack of knowledge or cost savings so now hopefully 🤞 the issues we have seen time and time again with supply cables in domestic will be gone.
Bravo 👏🏻
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Shame it's not real 😂
Bastards. Trouble is I work everyday and never even know what day of the week it is 😂 1-0 to eFIXX . Well played 😂😂😂🤦🏻♂️
Brush up on your MICC skills if you are heading to Scotland 🏴
@@efixx well funny you should say that 😜 will be soon and hopefully teaming up with our man Colin mulvaney on one of my projects 👊🏻 watch this space
Excellent new standard 01-04-23😊
You naughty pair, you skipped over the the unicorn branded installation metallic fire clips with built in sprinklers 👍
Meanwhile Australia has had a sheathed earth in building wire since the late 70s.