The Best, Most Powerful Shredder Gauntlets in Horizon Forbidden West

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  • @chazmatazzgames
    @chazmatazzgames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ❓What's your favorite shredder gauntlet in the game?? Be sure to let me know! And if you enjoyed this video, be sure to give it a 👍 and consider subscribing for even MORE HFW videos 🤗
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  • @roonkolos
    @roonkolos 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Shredders are such an enigma
    Its easy to see why they wouldnt be popular with their odd performance usage. They also are a weapon that require quite a bit of practice
    But once you got it down and can keep that momentum going, they can be rather satisfying ♡ seeing parts shearing off as the machines are literally torn apart is just amazing to see before they then are hit with quite the payload

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      man this is so true. First time I played through HFW, I thought shredder gauntlets were a total waste. I just didn't get how to use it effectively. Fast forward to now and they're pretty much my go-to weapon in just about every scenario.

  • @Nazar_Melnyk
    @Nazar_Melnyk 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I unsuccessfully tried playing shredder gauntlets, until I got to the blue piercing shredder gauntlet. For a long time, being mostly upgraded, it was my favorite weapon, until I got the Thunderbolt gauntlet, that combines piercing and shock shredders. Now I even have gotten the Uncestor's Return, but I am yet to make full use of it as it lacks piercing shredders as well as being currently weaker without sufficient upgrades.
    One thing to note, that no one seems to talk about, is using piercing shredders as anti-personel weapon. If you have enough distance for human enemies not to lock in the close combat, it can destroy armored enemies with two hits, where as a with hunter bow it would take forever to knock off a helmet for the headshot, and a precision bow, even if it can dispose of them in two hits (1 - helmet, 2 - head), is dangerously slow for those situations, and even worse, suffers from movement. In fact, if you were able to consistently land this two hits of the shredder, the efficiency of "enemy disposal" would be outrageous, as it allows not to expand ANY ammo on a kill.

  • @sembohle265
    @sembohle265 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As the Shredder Lord I have several comments to make.
    While blue shredders aren't as strong as others, between them there is a lot of difference. Especially in the early game, where you'll finally get access to them.
    For the blue rarity's best shredders, I'd say:
    1. Iron eater, because the stats, ammo types and perks are the best of the bunch.
    2. Slicing shredder, because it is the earliest shredder gauntlet you can get for a while, and if used correctly, can deal the most amount of tear of any weapon during the early game. Until you get the Iron eater, of course
    3. (Can skip) Piercing, and Boomer are tied. Piercing has more expensive ammo, while Boomer's doesn't. Both weapons are available when you have a decent/better shredder already. Probably piercing > boomer, because of the long range perk is usable if you're skilled enough.
    For the purple shredders I'd say:
    1. Sun hawk, because of the best perks of the bunch, cheap but decent alternative ammotypes and ease of upgrades.
    2. Thunderbolt, because shock is really good, especially because you can get it when you don't have good shock buildup weapons at that point. It is held back by the expensive upgrade costs.
    3. (Can skip) The other one. Not worth getting when the nr 1 and 2 are already available. Worst ammo type combination and perks.
    For your top 3:
    This has some... Additives.
    IF YOU MEASURE BASED ON DAMAGE
    1. Distant Thunder, 2. The Final Chapter, 3. Ancestor's Return.
    But, if you count on usability, viability, synergy, usefulness:
    1. Ancestor's Return (shock gives crowd control, buildup is high enough to nearly ignore resistances, and larger tear radius without much less damage)
    2. Distant Thunder, only better than The Final Chapter because of its higher base stats and long range perk. Is worse than The Final Chapter ~60% of the time because it does not synergize well with other weapons. Simply here because it outperforms if used in the appropriate synergy.
    3. The Final Chapter, the Ancestor's Return's best mate. Synergizes great with knockdown and shock focussed builds. (Though it isn't recommended to use The Final Chapter when a machine is shocked due to the quick degradation of the state when dealing damage) Only on 3, because the Distant Thunder is the same weapon, but upgraded. Many would prefer this weapon over the Distant Thunder.
    Usual shredder order when buying/upgrading them (and to what level you should upgrade them):
    Slicing (0-1,2) -> Iron eater (fully upgrade) -> Thunderbolt (0-3) -> Sun hawk full upgrade -> *can be skipped Thunderbolt (3-5)* -> Ancestor's Return (fully upgrade) -> *can be skipped Distant Thunder (fully upgrade)* ->
    The Final Chapter (full upgrade)
    Sincerely, Phosphoras

    • @Bigcountry4415
      @Bigcountry4415 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love your comment and agree with basically everything you said, I personally think the final chapter is better than distant thunder however that might be because of how I coil it (all elit cirt) it’s one of only two weapons (ancestors return) that can have 100% crit chance plus I hate the Instant Drenched Chance.

  • @AdhanLeo
    @AdhanLeo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Ancestor's Return works really well with The Final Chapter. Shock your enemy with AR, then do more damage with FC.

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      totally! the only thing better than one shredder gauntlet, is multiple shredder gauntlets 😆

    • @Spikklubba
      @Spikklubba 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah the FC never replaces the AR in my loadout but sits alongside it. (FC takes the slot i reserve for secondary damage weapons like spikethrowers and boltblasters)

  • @drsgonborn
    @drsgonborn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    10:33 slitherfang goes yeeeet

  • @JP36778
    @JP36778 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You can get the thunderbolt gauntlet for free if you explore one of the ships on the beach in legacy’s landfall.

  • @stryeiker566
    @stryeiker566 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never really found a particularly effective way of using Shredder Gauntlets.
    Hunter bows are better at tearing components because they do more tear and are far more precise.
    In terms of raw damage, they do very little.
    Also they slow you down when throwing them and you need to keep track of them while they are flying, which if you are trying to dodge things can become overwhelming.
    They are a lot of fun to use, but if you play on ultra hard, they feel way too weak and overly involved to use.
    They could balance them by making the explosion far more powerful, which would make them good in terms of recourse usage and power.

  • @Jonathan.Wishbone1987
    @Jonathan.Wishbone1987 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have sufficiently renewed my delight in this game. Moreover, I'm an SG enthusiast. Thanks bro.

  • @Bigcountry4415
    @Bigcountry4415 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I use the ancestors return so much loaded with 5 elite crit coils it does 100% crit chance 175% crit damage (same as the final chapter) however what sets the ancestors return apart is the tear, you’ll never reliably tear things off with the non elemental shredders since it has to hit directly (which I can do but it’s reliability that’s the problem) however with elemental ammo it does tear in an area of effect which allows me to deal tear damage against not only the place I’m aiming but also against all the components and armour in the area. Fire claws are one of the few machines I don’t use the ancestors return against since they have few components and since it does area effect damage it’s hard to keep the sac webbing intact (the claws are pretty much the only time I use sharp bows outside of humans for that reason). I’ll use the ancestors return against the (all apex) thunder jaw, rockbreaker, rollerback, behemoth, dreadwing, tide ripper, shellsnapper, stormbird, tremortusk and the slaughterspines. An added fact is if used against the spectres in acid shredders not only do really good against spectres you can also get an insane amount of loot since they have so many components and most of them have a good chance of having volatile sludge.
    Edit:also it’s good to use when against smaller machines since they’ll shock easier and you can deal with other machines while there shocked.

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      so many good points in here! and also just reinforces why shredder gauntlets are so amazing and why Fireclaws are some of the worst 😂
      Really good points about using acid shredders on Spectres. that's definitely my go-to strategy and is super fun in the late game on some of those later game missions.

    • @Spikklubba
      @Spikklubba 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the amount of high-value loot from shreddering spectres makes me suspect the real reason they dont spawn in the wild is because of how generous they are to farm. tons of shards, spikes, sludge, blastpaste.. even brainstem, gained 5 brainstems from the spectres at singularity alone

  • @honest_cake
    @honest_cake 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My fresh HFW playthrough has just become me asking “okay so how long until I get the Ancestor’s Return?” It feels WRONG not to have it 😤 Looks like I need to give The Final Chapter a chance though, maybe even in sync with the AR. I hope Shredders stick around for future games!

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean... we all know the AR is the GOAT 😆 Is your fresh play through the one you've been live streaming?? I joined in on one the last week and just lurked. Good stuff as always. You're so close to 1k subs! IF ANYONE SEES THIS, BE SURE TO SUBSCRIBE to HC!

    • @honest_cake
      @honest_cake 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chazmatazzgames Appreciate it man!! Just hit 1k today :) And yep, planning on FINALLY grabbing the AR next stream, I'm pumped.

  • @Jess-hg7ii
    @Jess-hg7ii 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is nothing like disassembling a tremortusk or a dreadwing with shock shredders. FYI, most of the conditional 15% coils don't just increase damage, but also tear and elemental buildup.
    Agility, Concentration, DoT,, and Overdraw all boost Impact, Tear, and Build Up.
    The only 25% coils that affect all three are Aerial Damage, Knockdown Damage, and Melee Follow Up, but those are all very difficult to proc or extremely situational IMO.
    Don't use the single element coils, use Agility, Concentration or Overdraw on any weapon that you would otherwise use them on if you have the situational coils. Elite Overdraw affects the same damage types that regular Overdraw does.

  • @Jason-Scott
    @Jason-Scott 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been using them for a while absolutely class.

  • @Jason-Scott
    @Jason-Scott 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m doing the final relic ruin didn’t realise I’m getting a new shredder gauntlet 😊 cool.

  • @MrNomad-0912
    @MrNomad-0912 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ooooh man, I love my ancestor's return, but I respect your decision. Both are powerful in their own way.

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      💯 the AR is an amazing weapon. probably my favorite in the game. I just wish it had a pure damage option! 😩

  • @zickiea172
    @zickiea172 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in terms of accessibility .. and just general gameplay . The Iron Eater does it for me with the right coils

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally agree! As an early/mid game weapon, Ironeater is super underrated

  • @paristeta5483
    @paristeta5483 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Favorite..don´t know really, most have their perks, but most disapointing on is the Thunderbolt, it just underperformance.
    Something like Boomer´s is the general problem with many quest weapons (besides legendaries) = For their rarity, they come much to late, like Kue´s SSB, Strongarm, Whisper HBs...
    Tear Shredders...when they would be powerfull, they are way to expensive, and later outclassed by the Advanced Shredders and the piercing shredder is only a 1,5 short in the base ammo.

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I do think my "test" wasn't very well suited for the AR. Looking back I probably should've done a series of tests and I'm sure if I did, the AR would come out on top 9 out of 10 times.
      I agree 100% on adding in some different elemental shredders. Plasma would be such a natural fit considering you could just build up plasma and throws 1 - 3, and have the plasma blast on the 4th throw. Adhesive would be interesting too. Would definitely make it more interesting to use.
      As always, your insights and knowledge on shredders and Horizon in general are spot on and super useful!

  • @chengong388
    @chengong388 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beat the game twice, still don’t get these weapons, it just the same as bow except you can save resources on ammo crafting?

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there's definitely a learning curve with shredder gauntlets. They take a little bit of time to get used to, but once you do, they're the best (or at least most fun) weapons in the game! You should definitely give them a shot. Arktix's Shredder Gauntlet Master Class video is amazing and super useful. I definitely recommend it if you need more info on how to use them.

  • @redtiger8275
    @redtiger8275 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Shredders are the best weapon in the game

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      💯💯💯 they're the best. definitely a good way to keep the game fun and interesting even after multiple playthroughs

  • @laujack24
    @laujack24 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ancestor return, everything else not worth using. but I dont find shredder guantlet all that useful in terms of late game when u find everything and got everything. in my ultra hard NG+ load out shredder guantlet and regular hunter bow(sun scourge aside) r the first to get phase out, the game mechanic just demand u to freeze ur target first and use either sharp shot bow or other heavy hitter like spike thrower to maximize damage. I can kill ultra hard apex slaughterspine in 3-4 elite arrow with low health and stealth build.

    • @Spikklubba
      @Spikklubba 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      tends to get boring though imo so i find myself using frost alot less than i used to, with shock and acid becoming the most used elements, especially when combined with heavyhitters like the boltblaster and sharpshot..

  • @AchmadRuchimat
    @AchmadRuchimat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about coil for the weapon?

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      great question! there's a couple different ways to coil shredder gauntlets to make them super powerful. Using agility and concentration damage coils are always a good option. For elemental shredders, I usually go all-in on whatever element I want, like acid or shock. I didn't go in-depth on that in this video, but Arktix's Shredder Gauntlet Master Class video is the ultimate guide on using and coiling shredder gauntlets. I'd definitely recommend checking that out if you haven't seen it already.

  • @cdraun1880
    @cdraun1880 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Load up Ancestor's Return with Agility Damage coils and jump or slide for every throw. The elemental build-up is basically unhindered by any machine's resistances to Shock or Acid. You can take this Agility Damage 15%x5 Ancestor's Return and run the whole game with it-maybe even just the shock shredders. I don't think I have found the machine that can best it. As far as I'm concerned, The Final Chapter can't touch this weapon, and if you try it out yourself, you'll quickly be making a video amending your top choice 😉

  • @GeertDelmulle
    @GeertDelmulle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My shredder gauntlets of choice are: AR and DT (Distant Thunder), so, yeah, a little disappointed, here.
    Both are coiled for Elite Crit Hits, and both are OP AF (that’s Auto Focus for the kids ;-).
    Especially the advanced disks on the DT pack a serious punch and kill large machines the fastest of the shredders, IME.
    Will reconsider the FC and check the coil configs after this video…

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      AR and DT are both GREAT options. Honestly, you can't go wrong with any of the legendary ones. They're all awesome. Also just keep in mind that when I did my testing, I wasn't using any coils on any of them. The right coils to enhance each gauntlets strengths can made a HUGE difference.

    • @Spikklubba
      @Spikklubba 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this will also depend on certain preferences. elite crit coils on DT is killer but it does favour tap-fire instead of full throws with more grind. and the grinding is the most satisfying part for me abbout shredders.

  • @demariorobinson5549
    @demariorobinson5549 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the video, but using the Ancestor's Return, with no coils against machines resistant to it was a low blow. Smh. Every weapon has good and bad situations and imo, non-elemental shredders are very limited.
    The AR is tough to coil though, especially on a single playthrough. Agility and concetration coils are best. I load 3 concentration damage coils and 2 elite shock coils. The additional shock build-up and 10% instant shock chance makes machine resistances negligible. Plus, the increased damage when shocked appears to ignore resistance all together. Might be a bug.
    You can switch those to elite acid coils if you're using the acid shredders.

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😔 I know, I know. That specific test wasn't well suited for the AR. Looking back I probably should've done a series of tests for each rather than focusing on one specific area. Pretty sure the AR would come out on top 9 times out of 10.
      Non-elemental shredders are much more limited for sure and aren't going to put up crazy damage numbers like a spike thrower or sharpshot bow, but if you are using non-elemental ones, piercing shredders are definitely the way to go.

  • @foberdud7576
    @foberdud7576 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yo did they stealth nerf shredder gauntlet in the past few months? I took a break from the game and when I came back it was like aloy found every excuse possible to NOT catch the shredders 😂

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hmmmm.. that's definitely an interesting thought. I haven't heard anything about them making any unannounced changes to the way the discs work, but I'll keep my ears to the ground 🤔

  • @norma8686
    @norma8686 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I strongly disagree, the Ancestor's return is the best shredder in the game, doesn't matter if the enemy is resistant to shock, it will still take dmg, not shock dmg but just raw dmg. I got all elite crit coils on it, no machine can resist that.

  • @earlbond2929
    @earlbond2929 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Purge Water + Ancestor's Return = No more elemental resistance! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😳 that is a really great point! 🤣

  • @skins4thewin
    @skins4thewin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I honestly hate this weapon type... Not only are they slow (other than the exploit of shooting them up close at the enemies feet), they also make you track them while being on the defense, distracting you from dodging when you should be. They also can be difficult to aim at specific machine components/weak points.
    I just plain do not like them. Am only here cus I HAVE to use one for one of the Hunting Ground challenges.

    • @chazmatazzgames
      @chazmatazzgames  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😅 you have to give them another chance! They’re great once you get the hang of them. Really truly some of the best weapons in the game! And if you’re working on the Sheerside Mountains Hunting Grounds with the shredder challenge, there’s a video on my channel for it! Arktix did that one and showed how you can literally beat that challenge in like 10 seconds 🤯

    • @skins4thewin
      @skins4thewin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @chazmatazzgames Fair. Maybe ill give them another chance one day.
      A bit off topic, but what do you recommend for quickly dealing with packs of Apex Clamberjaws? In certain areas of the forest you kill them but they just keep coming & coming w more of them!
      Fought an absolute war of attrition w them a lil bit ago, lasting as long as I could. Killed probably 10 of them before 4 more showed up & I just couldn't hold out any longer. Equipment was pretty weak still & I had no potions on me. Loved Aloy's Dialogue during this fight tho! She was beset on all sides, fighting for her life!
      Maybe I finally need to start using Smoke Bombs lol, I never ever use them.

  • @cristianmartinez9049
    @cristianmartinez9049 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved this game , but after playing it for 260 hr i am just done , i even bought the dlc but i could not stand another hour of this game