New Discoveries in Ancient Turkey
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- This lecture reviews the startling new archaeological discoveries that have been made in Turkey during the last 25 years, including the Roman Sebasteion at Aphrodisias, the early Neolithic cult circles at Goebeklitepe, and the Middle Byzantine shipwrecks in Istanbul. The lecture is intended as a special concluding component of the Golden Age of King Midas exhibit. Dr. C. Brian Rose, Curator of the Golden Age of King Midas , will speak.
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Thank you for posting this fascinating lecture . I am a retired tradesman and grandfather who lives at the far end of the United States. I will probably never have a chance to visit your wonderful museum, but these types of videos give me an opportunity to share in the incredible wealth of knowledge your organization has collected. I want to give the Penn Museum a heartfelt thank you for posting this, and other lectures and presentations. Keep up the great work!
Brian Garrow i just came on here to do exactly the same thing but you said it all for me.. =)...
Brian Garrow if you don't have enough money to travel, your children and grandchildren should pitch in and pay for a trip to Europe, Turkey, and Greece.
Dr. Jones, yourself & a few of your colleagues ought to be able, to dig deep into those fat pockets of yours, & send the kids, the grandkids, pets, the Mrs, the old man himself-
Having said this, how much ya wanna bet DrJones' practice is Haitian, & not even Muricahhno. DOH!
Duff is the Americanized version of Doff, a German word, for stupid. Drop the "L" and you've got your name that fits your bill.
Any books published by this professor? I did an Internship at the Museum of Cycladic Art while I attended Eastern Washington University for my MA studies in history. Have you ever heard of Dr. Bazemore who leads an archaeology dig on the island of Cyprus? She is a history professor at Eastern WA U.
Excellent Lecture . I enjoyed it very much. 12 thousand years condensed into a well done one hour presentation . I recommend it to anyone who appreciates ancient civilization studies
I would have liked to have seen slides in close ups x
I would make one suggestion. the person filming should zoom in tighter on the screen so that you can see what he is pointing to and talking about. at this distance you can't tell what the finer points are.
Totally agree. Fascinating lecture but difficult to watch at this zoomed out distance.
Maybe they could upload the PowerPoint slide show?
Not really any point watching this ? ZOOM would have helped alot ? lol
Very interesting! I love the way Dr Rose presents information! I have a whole playlist I listen to while I work.
Amazing work, amazing lecture. Thanks Penn!
Lovely! Fascinating sites and finds, and presented enthusiastically. Thanks.
I follow very fondly and continuously any kind of archaeological news but I have to admit that I didn't know about many of those finds the professor was talking about. Thank you very much!
thank you for this wonderful lecture!
Great lecture. Thank you for posting it
Thank you for all the Beautiful Art and so much more History barely mentioned today to the Public, i have so many questions, Thank you for sharing and especially all the hard work.
good information. i look forward to more of your lectures.
Thank you for sharing this with us.
Fantastic overview, and well presented and delivered. I wish I knew of all this sooner and when I still could see to travel and enjoy the history. This was almost as good as being there, thank you.
brilliant talk. many thanks for all your hard work. very well presented and very clear.
Love these podcasts injoy every minute of it
Superbly done!!!
Dr. Brian Rose - have to look him up now on Amazon- amazing lecturer
Great, enjoyable lecture, thanks !.
Great speaker! Fascinating subject.
Surprisingly small attendance. Sounds like less than 100 people...
Great lecture !..
I love stumbling into a a video/channel where I can feed my passion for history and a glimpse of places I’ve yet to visit.
Lots of intrigue and fascinating insights into what was truly a nexus for human and western cultural history and development. The depth of knowledge by the presenter is, by way of an understatement, impressive.
My only wish would be to able to see the slide show "close up". I kept staining to see the details which I'm sure were incredibly interesting.
It's sad to see all of this fascinating material dismissed by people because of some misplaced overreaction to a shorthand phrase in the title. All they mean by "ancient Turkey" is the place that's now called Turkey, in ancient times. That's it. I'm sure that the archaeologists excavating sites like Troy are perfectly well aware of the complex history of this place, including the many peoples that have lived there and the many empires that have ruled there. If an archaeologist says she is working on "ancient North America," that doesn't mean she thinks the place was called "America" or was populated by Europeans in pre-Columbian times! -- I'm all for skepticism, but there's a big difference between intelligent skepticism and stupid skepticism.
Finally, a well reasoned explanation . Thx
Yes, but Archaeologists do not say "I am working on ancient USA".
thank you for posting this lecture. it would be interesting if you did an out of place artifacts display. it would draw large crowds. i would be willing to travel from ohio to see such a presentation.
This is great!
Years ago a woman who was a very early paleoanthropologist proposed a two to three thousand year period between hunter-gatherer and agriculture. This period consisted of corralling animals seasonally and culling them and weeding areas rich in food giving plants thus creating gardens and mixed orchards which later formed sacred groves.
She also pointed out that in many areas hunting continued (in some places to the early modern period).
This notion of a big switch between hunter-gatherers and cultivators and pastoralists is too blunt, too simplistic. There was great variety in modes of transition.
And are you that woman?
And that (rappin') tomato was me.
Thank you for posting, Good lecture.
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Love these lectures from Penn!
Takes me back to uni lectures and sitting at the back of lecture theatre, peering down to see the images.
Enjoyed the lecture.
I love this information. Fascinating. I will never see these myself, unless I hit the lottery, so I very much appreciate and enjoy these videos, and Ancient Aliens as well. It might not all be the truth, but that is up to us to discern and establish for ourselves. Great information! Thank you Penn!
I love going over to the Penn Museum, they always have something fascinating going on. The archeology students and Profs. are great when you have questions, they truly love what they're doing. Today they have a tour exploring ancient foods, that's gonna be a pretty cool afternoon, the food is vastly different from the crap available to us now, I love attempting to reproduce it, my wife not so much!! If you are fairly close and have never been there, I highly recommend it, It's a great family outing. Thank you so much for posting this lecture, very informative and totally captivates my young son, that says a lot!
Great information thanks
Thank you for sharing us with this amazing and wonderful lecture. it is interesting to see such types of discoveries in the ancient place of Turkey. Actually, I am from Ethiopia and when I heard this it creates something in mind what an interesting site is it? hopefully, we are waiting to come up with other new discoveries within the site.
Very informative... ty
Very nice Thank You
This is a lecture about sites that exist in an area we now call Turkey. It is not saying that it is the same people who are there today. However the comment section is full of people who seem to have problems understanding that.
I was stationed at Karamursel Air Station, 1957-1959. I went by the last place of Hannibal near Izmid, Turkey.
the wooden chamber paintings are similiar to etrusk tomb paintings...thank you for this amazing news...
Would love to visit Gobekli Tepe, so many unanswered questions about early agricultural life.
great Vid thanks
Thank you for this interesting overview. Of course, more than half of the comments are modern political rants, denunciations of science, or wrath against the phrase "ancient Turkey".
Just filter them out.
As a turkish i thank you proffessor
Love it all ,I want to see it all..
I was watching a TH-cam about the sea people and this individual had to complain about how the author used BC. Some people are just looking to argue instead of really focusing on the actual content of the video. So much to learn from these videos, so I will in the future ignore divisive comments. I told this commentor to stop with the trivial and learn. Same here!
Neat ! Thanks !
I love how one quote special boy makes history for a hundred years unobtainable!
Unobtainium?
Ancient Anatolia. We are Ionian Hellenes from Pergamon. Beautiful country and people.
And who lived there before it was called Anatolia?
No, we are Ionic Hellenists, you Hellenisic Ionians
Old Man from Scene Twenty Four : His name was Sheik Pir.Thats the guy who lived there.But later English stole him and they called his Shakespeare.
@@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 Neardenthals, probably
@@dragooll2023 With evidence of several civilizations having lived there for at least 25,000 years, hardly.
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Aside from all these ethnic claims the lecture is still fascinating.
I really enjoyed this video! Thanks for posting!
Please make a lecture about the totems of ancient USA
I am happy to hear the relation with the destroyed city ofTroy. if any?
wow Kate thanks
Recommendable
can somebody please tell me what was last title of this guy in introduction?
Camera show have zoomed in on the slides more...
Is Gobekli Tepe really 5000 years older than Stonehenge, or is it a hint that the dating of other megalithic period architecture needs to be reconsidered? For example, Inca and Egyptian additions to megalithic foundations seem to indicate that enough time passed to cause complete societal amnesia in building techniques. The additions are incredibly more primitive than the foundations, and world-wide, the megaliths seem more related to each other than to succeeding cultures.
By that logic, Gobekli Tepe could be dated wrong. Is it dated by Strata? There's certainly no pottery down there. Some archeologists have argued for an 8,000bc date, which would make it about 10,000 years old.
Could be confused but thought they used carbon dating on animal bones, wood found at the sight...
Yes. Central Asia makes the most sense as the archeological hotspot for humanity because we would have been stuck there for thousands of years before the glaciers melted and we spread out into the rest of the world. That’s if the out of Africa theory is correct.
Odd camera angle! Also, just wanted to add the requisite complaint for every lecture video posted: that the camera that was left alone to record the event passively also use its own discretion to zoom in on the projections on the screen on the stage at times that would suit all possible complainants. Fanx.
the pleasure is all in my mind
26:30 She is singing!
How did it look at the height of Classical Greek culture? Is that ca 400 BC? Greeks made such beautiful sites.
on top of the T pillars at Gobeleki are numerous cup-shaped indentations, almost nobody will talk about them or show you a picture.
I enjoyed his talk but the images were little too small , do I really need to see the stage
I would be interested in seeing what is under these monuments as many were built over the top of older structures. It is interesting also to note that a matriarchal rule which is said to have been very bloody, should be included in interpretations as some of the monumental reliefs almost certainly appear to discuss matriarchal/patriarchal war and the beginning of patriarchal rule and denigration of women.
The throne @ 18:28 time that is labelled Assyrian looks a lot like the one used today for coronation.... No joke could be David's throne on pic.
If you're looking for a good explanation of Göbekli Tepe and not this, search for Peters & Schimdt work of 2004: 'Animals in the symbolic world of Pre-Pottery Neolithic Göbekli Tepe, south-eastern Turkey: a preliminary assessment'. It's online in Scholar Google and it's the best on the subject. IMO, of course.
Very, Very interesting even if the lecturer is a little arrogant. And actually lots of people have put Eden near Gobekli Tepe, also, there is no reason the story could not be interpreted as a metaphor for transition from hunter gather to farming.
Is it possible that GöblikeTepe are so called sound cirkles ? Maybe michael Tellinger can give a statement to these buildings .?
I'm gonna have to rewatch this video due to laser pointer drama🤣
at 37:07...he describes a coin from the first century..saying '' holding the globe of the world''
wait...u do realize what does this mean right????
...that they weren't as stupid as we are as a society today?
Sure, I do: you haven't been paying attention.
Yes, the western world has believed the earch was spherical for 2500 years.
Lol! That they worshipped the great Satan?!?
@@mjonhouston ha!
Hoping one day we will find an inscription that mentions Helen
Romans inherited most of the sites they took credit for.
orange70383 that's what conquerors do. In the United States the vast cultures that existed prior are still not adequately addressed. History is written by the victors and that is the way it's always been. Learn about the losers to better understand what MIGHT have happened
Need close ups of the pics n fix sound.
Yes, there should a clarification at the beginning discussing all the ancient civilizations that contributed to these ruins. Have been to some of these ruins 38 years ago and loved it. During this time Jews lived here due to the diaspora caused by many conquering armies. Many peoples. The country of Turkey has many fascinating cultures that preceded the current boundary lines. It does sound a little like the British taking claim to the artifacts of North America.
you need to watch the knowledge of forever time on youtube
Brian Rose 2016
Needs more laser pointers.
Cant see the slides.
scratchy audio blew it for me
Really? Its clear as can be. Since i dont see any other complaints, maybe try again. Probably a fluke.
The problem with "mainstream" theories is that they are just theories.
Why not zoom in a bit more.
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It would be nice to put the slides on full screen instead of the stage, screen, and speaker.
Shut up
Wonderful lecture! Thank you!... Sagalassos is incredible place! Every time I go there, it's fascinating me again and again! Everyone must see it!
Your psychiatrist must be rich by now
...and the documentary immediately following this on autoplay is "Scientists Baffled-New Discoveries-Darwinian Evolution Crumbling-Scientists Abandon Theory"
:)
Thank you for an exciting lecture. It seems rather worrrying that so much plundering (including GobekliT.!!!) is going on. It seems that the whole idea of excavating any worthwhile site is questionable since so little effort is made to preserve the results. (The same, or worse, goes for clay structures excavated - notably in MARI - to be left to disintegrate "regrettably" in rains...).
BTW - Perhaps it is worthwhile to mention that Aphrodisia was in its time a major centre for mass production of sculptures in excellent quality marble from the local quarries. They we apparently shipping their produce appreciated for high quality execution to all corners of the Roman Empire. They specialized in busts of dynastic personages - a dynamic market to say the least, with ever so often changing imperial set-ups, and avid public of wealthy citizens eager to have the latest to show off at home.
Spindles are used for hand spinning fiber into yarn/thread. Shuttles are used in weaving to carry the weft thread through a warp shed. Sheeeze!
the ditch Discovery troy 6 could have been a ditch to place the foundation of a much larger wall. If if one travels to countries like Mexico and third world countries you will notice that when they begin to lay the foundation of a home they dig trenches in order to lay down the foundation of the home. I believe that this is the same example we are seeing here. I believe once more that that was a dish that would allow the Trojans to place a massive base for a massive wall
Much as the later Romans trenched and founded their roads.
I would like to see an archeological history of roads, from China and Harrapa and Crete through the Etruscans and Romans. City and cross country.
48:23 they are Oceanus and Thetys...
If you make a video please take care the equipement work propperly and the camera have to zoom in on the pictures ! !!! Also the audio is poor.
you love it!
What is zoom in? Maybee you should do video on this.
Our oldest existing stone santuaries and temples. Wooden ones we don't see. Pal.
While they are giving explaning about "Karaburun" on the map was shown wrong location.Karaburun is located all the way west of Turkey
Great lecture that I'll have to watch a second time.
Scary Stories you obviously never been in an actual lecture
"You obviously never been" in an English class.
Scary Stories:So that it completely dumbs you up?good job
WeLL I"VE BEEN IN AN ENGLISH CLASS AND I CAN"T SAY I"M IMPRESSED
281 mainstream academic archeologists DISSED THIS. Anno 04/20/20.
That 9th century king looks like modern day solder
And Brian is your Conquest! Or vice versa!!!
Watching Jan 26 2021
It looks to me to be a temple of totems,primitve people first believed in their totem animals, a type of animism
@ Carol Geard _ Well, it seems tempting to think that whoever lived before our times must have been primitive, animistic etc. The further in the past, the more so. Possibly our idea of "progress" is constructed as a self-fulfilling train of thought: all religions "evolve" up to the elevated form of monotheism, all technologies peak at steam-and-electricity, atomic energy gives us divine powers etc. Yet, when you try reading e.g. rather "old" Sumerian texts, or Babylonian poetry, you will see that their mind-set was hardly different from ours, and their life styles were not lacking in terms of convinience, affluence, or sophistication. Moreover, there still seems to linger an idea that they had access to knowledge (and possibly technologies) yet unmatched by us. The time may tell; but things seem to be changing even now.
An excellent theory that should be considered.
"you have to dig it to date it" 😁
ripples in the pond