This is an important scene. Salieri, like most great artists, is cursed with only seeing his shortcomings, even as he is lavished with praise just like he always wanted.
I loved this scene in the movie....it looks like a huge painting the way it was staged on steps with all the beautiful colors....Beautiful music...so glad to find it here....I am going to buy a cd of this opera
Il miglior abbiam noi d'ogni re... Il miglior, il miglior... Il miglior abbiam noi d'ogni re... ...abbiam noi d'ogni re... ...abbiam noi d'ogni RE ! The best we have of all kings... The best, the best... The best we have of all kings... ...we have of all kings... ...we have of all KINGS ! Bravo maestro Salieri.
I saw it differently, Mozart did not like the music and saw it as boring, yet he was offended that the Monarc had decided to acknowledge it as the best ever written. Salieri relished the strick but was unsure how does Mozart feel about his music.
@@clinicalpsychologist You are certainly allowed to interpret it differently but remember, Salieri invited Mozart to see his new opera work, which would likely suggest that it was a significant piece which as you saw, the Emperor Joseph II declared it the best opera yet written.
Ok. I love Amadeus for bringing Mozart's music to the masses, but so much if this play/movie was inaccurate to the point that it is unforgivable. Joseph II was an enlightened and modest monarch who did so much good for his people. Mozart was not a buffoon. And, Salieri could have cared less what Mozart thought of his work. The truth is, in late 18th century Vienna, Salieri was a much more respected and sought-after composer than Mozart. Mozart got commissions after Salieri turned them down. I love the music of both composers, and of course think Mozart reached levels unattainable by his contemporaries. It's a shame a forgotten composer was brought back to life by a man (Shaffer) seeking to destroy him.
@@oscarestevanortizdemontell1607 Which is a remake of Tarare, a French opera by Salieri on a libretto by Beaumarchais. The latter once said that the beautiful music had saved his text...
1:25 I believe it is the best opera yet written my friends. Salieri. You are the brightest star in the musical firmament. You do honor to Vienna and to me.
Qual piacer la nostr'anima ingombra, e gli affanni, e i timori disgombra! Gridi ognun viva il re, viva Atar; viva Aspasia, ed Aspasia in Atar. Tutti tutti morremmo per te, il miglior abbiam noi d'ogni re.
Some commenters are saying Mozart was roasting Salieri at the end there.I don't think he was. We see nothing like that level of irony or self-control from Mozart in the rest of the film. He is far and away the most direct character in the story, almost always saying exactly what he means. If he's being genuine here then the reason it sounds weird is because we're seeing it through Salieri's eyes. Salieri who is nothing but deception, misdirection and sublte manipulation. As well as that Salieri is deeply self-doubting and knows that Mozart's work is exceptional. It's no wonder then that when Mozart praises him he doubts his own ears.
I feel so sorry for the real salieri cuz of this movie. He never had any beef with mozart in the first place, on the contrary he was the most genuine to appreciating mozarts talents compared to the other italian artists in vienna. The holy ROMAN empire was austrian and hence they ''supported' many italian artists, but they always wanted more austrian and german musicians which caused an unseen political struggle. As a matter of fact salieri was the GOAT successful opera composer in his time, way different from mozart. As the phenomenal genius he was, mozart was a kid in the genre of huge scale operas. He learned a lot from salieri in his making of the opening in Figaro, which ironically can be seen in this video. Its like saying christopher nolan and hans zimmer was jealous of michael jackson
Why would the most succesful imperical musician and leading opera director be jealous of a rebel genius, mozart lost favor with the emperor as soon as he found out he couldnt replace mozart as an authentic austrian imperical musician; his views on music were just as revolutionary as his genius talents. He refused to be used as a pawn for propaganda music. Salieri? Hell why not , it gave him money and honor, and it was what he was best at too
Notice how Mozart was the first person in the upper level to stand and clap for Salieri the the first to rush down and meet him. While the character Salieri felt inferior to Mozart, Mozart clearly saw Salieri as superb talent. He might have even been jealous of him.
I actually love this, but I always thought it was a funny touch that this has that flourish of rapid-fire arpeggios in the strings at the end. It seems Salieri finally accepted the idea of ghastly arpeggios and "too many notes"
The arpeggio's work better in the original french version as it stretches out into an ethereal otherworldly line that transitions into the epilogue. the French version overall is better and worth a listen. Rapid fire is a pretty good description of the whole piece with tragédie lyrique being a somewhat underappreciated genre within opera but man does it fly along, especially compared to the Italian opera's of the time. th-cam.com/video/PxL9MjPQKRc/w-d-xo.html
No matter how divine and sublime Mozart's music is (and noone can deny IT is), this piece of music, of Salieri's music, is just a real masterpiece. Breath-taking, powerful, astonishing music. Bravo, Salieri!
This is a serious piece of music very well done. If the music is "bad" or "inferior" as some people say, why do many of the performers shake his hand after the performance? More BSing?
actually mozart also worked hard before he got to that level, remember the first scene of the movie, mozart already training since he was a little kid while salieri still playing with other kids
@@nonsensepost8732 well i mean salieris parents weren't very supportive of his musical endeavors (according to the movie), whilst mozarts family probably had the means and money to pay for lessons. It's interesting to think about.
Salieri is like the student who agonizes over every single aspect of his work and makes something that follows all the rules but lacks flow. Mozart is like the A student who never even tries.
Salieri's Axur finale: Simple ending scene lacking depth and virtuosity with obvious gaps of intensity. The full orchestra punches like a parody are funny though. Mozart is telling the truth, he's not really complimenting Salieri but laughing at this mediocrity.
Axur was adapted from his original French opera Tarare. It was full of intense, heroic music in the French style of the time with a prologue and epilogue acting as a framing device for the drama which was left out of the Italian version. This is the short epilogue that comes after the above scene in the original French version: th-cam.com/video/_OsVoLfM40c/w-d-xo.html If you want a proper intense ending, then there's always the act 5 finale for Les Danaïdes. It was a sensation in it's time and was decried by some critics for being too violent and grotesque: th-cam.com/video/HJ5PUr5F9oM/w-d-xo.html If you want something a bit more "epic", then there's the finale of Les Horaces. The opera, overall, was not successful in it's own time due to story structure and story pacing issues: th-cam.com/video/2lyNzMj3-RY/w-d-xo.html
@@peterstudios7147 Well, Mozart's father was originally from Germany (Electorate of Bavaria). Only Mozart's mother was from Salzburg, which was an independent Archbishopric situated between Bavaria and Austria. Affiliations at the time were a bit difficult due to the political set-up of this part of Europe, and are still tricky today - for example, I grew up in a small Bavarian town that, at Mozart's time, was actually Salzburg territory. So yes, ethnically Mozart was Southern German, but practically he would be classified as an Austrian composer.
This is an important scene. Salieri, like most great artists, is cursed with only seeing his shortcomings, even as he is lavished with praise just like he always wanted.
I loved this scene in the movie....it looks like a huge painting the way it was staged on steps with all the beautiful colors....Beautiful music...so glad to find it here....I am going to buy a cd of this opera
Il miglior abbiam noi d'ogni re...
Il miglior, il miglior...
Il miglior abbiam noi d'ogni re...
...abbiam noi d'ogni re...
...abbiam noi d'ogni RE !
The best we have of all kings...
The best, the best...
The best we have of all kings...
...we have of all kings...
...we have of all KINGS !
Bravo maestro Salieri.
Thanks for the text & The translation
You forgot some lines
King: “I believe it is the best opera ever written.”
Amadeus: “Hold my Magic Flute.”
The man was : Joseph II ,Archduke of Austria, Emperor of Holy Roman Empire , King of Hungary, Croatia and Bohemia, etc.
You should addressed him as "Emperor"
Emperor for you sir
This scene was absolutely divine. It says Salieri strikes back at Mozart and he gave it his all!
I saw it differently, Mozart did not like the music and saw it as boring, yet he was offended that the Monarc had decided to acknowledge it as the best ever written. Salieri relished the strick but was unsure how does Mozart feel about his music.
@@clinicalpsychologist You are certainly allowed to interpret it differently but remember, Salieri invited Mozart to see his new opera work, which would likely suggest that it was a significant piece which as you saw, the Emperor Joseph II declared it the best opera yet written.
I don't think Salieri cared about the Emperor's review. He knows the emperior is a boob with bad taste. All he cared was what Mozart thought.
@@baiwatch1 LOL!!!!
Ok. I love Amadeus for bringing Mozart's music to the masses, but so much if this play/movie was inaccurate to the point that it is unforgivable. Joseph II was an enlightened and modest monarch who did so much good for his people. Mozart was not a buffoon. And, Salieri could have cared less what Mozart thought of his work. The truth is, in late 18th century Vienna, Salieri was a much more respected and sought-after composer than Mozart. Mozart got commissions after Salieri turned them down. I love the music of both composers, and of course think Mozart reached levels unattainable by his contemporaries. It's a shame a forgotten composer was brought back to life by a man (Shaffer) seeking to destroy him.
What a piece of music! Astounding.
If you want to look up Salieri's opera, it's called Axur: Re di Ormus
@@oscarestevanortizdemontell1607 I believe it is the best opera yet written!
One of the best pieces of music in the movie
If you want to look up Salieri's opera, it's called Axur: Re di Ormus
@@oscarestevanortizdemontell1607 Which is a remake of Tarare, a French opera by Salieri on a libretto by Beaumarchais. The latter once said that the beautiful music had saved his text...
1:25 I believe it is the best opera yet written my friends. Salieri. You are the brightest star in the musical firmament. You do honor to Vienna and to me.
Grazie signore
Grazie a lei, Signor Antonio !
Qual piacer la nostr'anima ingombra,
e gli affanni, e i timori disgombra!
Gridi ognun viva il re, viva Atar;
viva Aspasia, ed Aspasia in Atar.
Tutti tutti morremmo per te,
il miglior abbiam noi d'ogni re.
Try to sing along at the movie's tempo-good luck!
Some commenters are saying Mozart was roasting Salieri at the end there.I don't think he was. We see nothing like that level of irony or self-control from Mozart in the rest of the film. He is far and away the most direct character in the story, almost always saying exactly what he means. If he's being genuine here then the reason it sounds weird is because we're seeing it through Salieri's eyes. Salieri who is nothing but deception, misdirection and sublte manipulation. As well as that Salieri is deeply self-doubting and knows that Mozart's work is exceptional. It's no wonder then that when Mozart praises him he doubts his own ears.
Agreed, well said
Not so. In a deleted scene, Mozart is sitting next to Schikanaeder and tells him (of Salieri’s opera) ‘Music like this should be punishable by death.’
@@noahklinger7083 where can you see that deleted scene?
@@mikaboman1308 On the DVD special features; not sure if its online anywhere.
@@noahklinger7083Where did you find that? I've never seen that on the director's cut.
I never knew that music like that was possible......
One hears such sounds .....and what can one say but: Salieri!
I feel so sorry for the real salieri cuz of this movie. He never had any beef with mozart in the first place, on the contrary he was the most genuine to appreciating mozarts talents compared to the other italian artists in vienna. The holy ROMAN empire was austrian and hence they ''supported' many italian artists, but they always wanted more austrian and german musicians which caused an unseen political struggle. As a matter of fact salieri was the GOAT successful opera composer in his time, way different from mozart. As the phenomenal genius he was, mozart was a kid in the genre of huge scale operas. He learned a lot from salieri in his making of the opening in Figaro, which ironically can be seen in this video. Its like saying christopher nolan and hans zimmer was jealous of michael jackson
Why would the most succesful imperical musician and leading opera director be jealous of a rebel genius, mozart lost favor with the emperor as soon as he found out he couldnt replace mozart as an authentic austrian imperical musician; his views on music were just as revolutionary as his genius talents. He refused to be used as a pawn for propaganda music. Salieri? Hell why not , it gave him money and honor, and it was what he was best at too
I was happy Salieri achieved some success here. Was rooting for him lol.
Doesn't the movie reiterate multiple times that Salieri was very successful? He was quite wealthy, especially as compared to Mozart.
Notice how Mozart was the first person in the upper level to stand and clap for Salieri the the first to rush down and meet him. While the character Salieri felt inferior to Mozart, Mozart clearly saw Salieri as superb talent. He might have even been jealous of him.
Magnificent, superb! Salieri, oh Salieri!
0:02 Grazie a lei, Signor Antonio !
First performance January 8th 1788, for the Wedding of Archduke Franz and Princess Elisabeth of Wurttemberg.
What a subtle and fine sarcasm of MOZART regarding SALIERI; Greetings and congratulations from Lima (Wednesday 6 / XI / 2019) -Perú-América.
I actually love this, but I always thought it was a funny touch that this has that flourish of rapid-fire arpeggios in the strings at the end. It seems Salieri finally accepted the idea of ghastly arpeggios and "too many notes"
The arpeggio's work better in the original french version as it stretches out into an ethereal otherworldly line that transitions into the epilogue. the French version overall is better and worth a listen. Rapid fire is a pretty good description of the whole piece with tragédie lyrique being a somewhat underappreciated genre within opera but man does it fly along, especially compared to the Italian opera's of the time.
th-cam.com/video/PxL9MjPQKRc/w-d-xo.html
No matter how divine and sublime Mozart's music is (and noone can deny IT is), this piece of music, of Salieri's music, is just a real masterpiece. Breath-taking, powerful, astonishing music. Bravo, Salieri!
This is a serious piece of music very well done. If the music is "bad" or "inferior" as some people say, why do many of the performers shake his hand after the performance? More BSing?
This is a good piece of opera music
To me salieri is the winner. He came up so far, by his own work. Not talent like Mozart, but his dedication.
actually mozart also worked hard before he got to that level, remember the first scene of the movie, mozart already training since he was a little kid while salieri still playing with other kids
@@nonsensepost8732 well i mean salieris parents weren't very supportive of his musical endeavors (according to the movie), whilst mozarts family probably had the means and money to pay for lessons. It's interesting to think about.
@@aramnolastname1301 it doesn't change the fact that Mozart worked hard to be a good composer
@@nonsensepost8732 oh yeah definitely.
@@aramnolastname1301 but absolutely tho, if salieri's parents were supportive i think salieri could overcome mozart
At the end even Mozart applauded mesmerized by the music of Signor Antonio.
I doubt the actual score calls for a gong, but damn does it give it a good bang at the end - to let me know when to clap.
サリエリの指揮ぶりは、すごくかっこいいよね。
だよねー
Mozart was being polite here because he knew his operas are better.
Neil Modino Mozart is really betterthan salieri
Neil Modino Mozart is really betterthan salieri
Salieri is like the student who agonizes over every single aspect of his work and makes something that follows all the rules but lacks flow. Mozart is like the A student who never even tries.
@@Tempusverum Salieri is like a student? Really? The man who taught Beethoven, Shubert and Liszt... and whom Mozart chose to teach his own son.
@@markchambers3833
☝️someone who’s never studied similes in grammar school
He was a great and famous opera composer at that time, but is now eclipsed.
after the conclusion sallieri first looked at Mozart's direction!
Couldnt find it on spotify
God realize Salieri's wish! Make me a great composer!
F. Murray Abraham should play Joseph Haydn too back then, because of they're face soo resemblanced
Divine, Salieri!
1:14 - 2:14, 2:14 - 2:44
0:56 "oooow stop it you guys"
salieri
O filme é sobre o Mozart . Más essa é a ópera mais bacana do filme !
As do Mozart são melhores, mas as pessoas se esqucem que Salieri era também talentoso mas claro que não ao nível de Mozart.
Avete notato che Salieri segue anche con la bocca il canto?
Anche Mozart nelle suo opere
If not the best
better than Mozart.
mozart>>>> salieri
Salieri's Axur finale: Simple ending scene lacking depth and virtuosity with obvious gaps of intensity. The full orchestra punches like a parody are funny though. Mozart is telling the truth, he's not really complimenting Salieri but laughing at this mediocrity.
You're funny
This same description can be applied to any of Mozart's late operas.
Axur was adapted from his original French opera Tarare. It was full of intense, heroic music in the French style of the time with a prologue and epilogue acting as a framing device for the drama which was left out of the Italian version. This is the short epilogue that comes after the above scene in the original French version:
th-cam.com/video/_OsVoLfM40c/w-d-xo.html
If you want a proper intense ending, then there's always the act 5 finale for Les Danaïdes. It was a sensation in it's time and was decried by some critics for being too violent and grotesque:
th-cam.com/video/HJ5PUr5F9oM/w-d-xo.html
If you want something a bit more "epic", then there's the finale of Les Horaces. The opera, overall, was not successful in it's own time due to story structure and story pacing issues:
th-cam.com/video/2lyNzMj3-RY/w-d-xo.html
Not enough notes.
Ah the fake Italian questo è italiano
What's so fake about it? That Mozart has a slight accent? Did you forget that Mozart was ethnically German?
@@lakishajenkins
Austrian
@A smoking ChickenFish Austrian
@@peterstudios7147 Well, Mozart's father was originally from Germany (Electorate of Bavaria). Only Mozart's mother was from Salzburg, which was an independent Archbishopric situated between Bavaria and Austria. Affiliations at the time were a bit difficult due to the political set-up of this part of Europe, and are still tricky today - for example, I grew up in a small Bavarian town that, at Mozart's time, was actually Salzburg territory. So yes, ethnically Mozart was Southern German, but practically he would be classified as an Austrian composer.
@@juliaread6599 very interesting, thank you for the information.
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Watching F Murray Abraham mime conducting is giving me cancer.