@@livinglife.digital3399 Be carefull, children are not ment to translate adult stuff. Learn Dutch asap for his sake. Too many foreigners make that mistake.
Our society is way less competitive than the American society. It's not about being the best of your class, but rather being the best 'you'. Happy new year for you and your loved ones.
We Dutch generally feel more for cooperation rather then being competitive. We realize that on the long run competitiveness only produces losers. Even today's winner will be tomorrow's loser and if that isn't depressing, I don't know what is. With cooperation everybody wins equally and that made us what we are today. Our whole country is rich, not just a small privileged elite.
@@FrankHeuvelman Lol... Yes everybody is rich. But who is earning it? Ever thought about the net income to the state... Or said in different words; do you even know who carry the burden of that standard of living? I can tell you... If you earn more than 42k a year you are a net contributer to the dutch treasury... Below that the dutch government pays you more in ''toeslagen / subsidies'' than that you pay in taxes...
@@tim3440 You live in a world already long gone by, my friend. You still live in the 20th century. That's why you are called conservatives. You guys try to hold on to an already sunken ship, too late to conserve anything at all. You got your chance but you blew it. I am so thankful for being born here in Holland instead of that hell hole you guys so stubbornly keep referring to as the 'United' States of America. You've failed as a nation but you don't realize it yet.
So the house visit thing in the Netherlands: I had a house visit as well when I was a child. I was a very good student and was the teachers pet of many teachers. One teacher in particular I had a special bond with because she was my favorite and I almost saw her as my aunt. She’d make 2 house visits when I told her my mom was pregnant. She knew I was really excited about it and she really wanted to meet my family. I still have fond memories of her. So I’d say yes, house visits happen and aren’t weird.
@@3dmaster205 excellent observation. I should have stated that I'd prefer it if the cost of education be carried by the entire society, giving every child an opportunity without conditions
@@09conrado You're going to produce the opposite. In the Netherlands parents are free to choose the school to send their kids to, there are no district systems and such; all of that stuff happens in the great free US though. It means your education system will grind down to a halt with ever increasing budgets, for the folks making your education have essentially free money and power, and can put in place whatever they want, regardless of whether or not they actually educating your children, indeed, educating will become less important that ideological indoctrination; for as long as the brainwashed kids are brainwashed to vote to keep the system in place; they "educators" have unlimited power and money. This is why the US education system is so bad. You want good education you keep it free, with as little government involvement as possible, and let parents freely send and take children to/from schools as they see fit, this will force schools to educate, or they lose students and go bankrupt.
Hi, I am Dutch myself and so is my wife. She works as a financial manager at the international school for nato in brunssum, the netherlands. At this school are children of nato soldiers who work at nato headquarters, but also children of expats. The parents of the expats pay up to 20,000 euros per year for their child. These parents should watch your video so they realize that by sending their child to a free public Dutch school, their child is learning so much more. The child learns the language, culture, friendships for life. The children are even picked up at home by bus, your son learns how to cycle and how traffic works here. You're doing really well, and you're open to change, and that makes everything so much easier.
According to UN the Dutch kids are the happiest in the world. And school is an important factor in this result. I don’t remember exactly what is was, but something that the kids are taken serious. And actively encouraged to develop their own personality and opinions. And the non competitiveness in the school also played also an important role. Btw actually almost all Dutch schools are public schools in the sense that they are all financed by the government. The only differences between schools can be based on religion or/and pedagogical approach.
An other important factor is not directly school related: but being able to cycle anywhere, including school by themselves. Gives them some responsibility and freedom. And exercise.
@@autohmae yes, that was mentioned too in the UN report. The children become independent that way and can make their own choices where to go. Bicycle Dutch has lot of videos with cycling schoolchildren on his channel. All videos have at least one comment about the children not being overweight.
School in the US sounds wild. But some things you see on TV do make sense now. The house calls are totally normal as far as I know. Every year there is one, it's to see the child in their home situation. If everything is normal it has nothing to do with the parents, but it can also be used to detect something wrong at home. I always really liked them. My teacher would usually come home with me for lunch, I'd show the things I liked, and my parents and teacher would have a conversation during lunch.
Thank you for making this video! My daughter might be coming with me when I move overseas (depending on custody matters), and I have been researching schools. This has helped me a ton!
Normally, teachers will not make house calls but your son goes to a school for kids who have not only learn but also adjust to a new country. A home visit might be necessary to see how the parents experience their offspring’s adjustment. They see and hear things that the teacher may not.
@@tim3440 All children have needs but sadly, they do not always get what they need. In this case, it is a little boy who is taken by his parents to a country where he does not know the language. I have a lot of experience in this as I used to be one of those kids and ended up teaching a group of refugee children. I am happy to say that, the younger they are, the sooner they adapt. This young fellow seems to be very bright and, with a little help from school (help I never got in the 60’s before mass migration was an issue), he will be translating for his mom in no time.
Born in the Netherlands, grew up in Canada and, as a teen, got dragged back to the Netherlands. My first language was the local Limburgian dialect, not Dutch. I learned to read and write in English. Back in the Netherlands, I reconnected with Limburgian and learned standard Dutch but, living close to the German border, also became reasonably fluent in German. Add to that some school French and my tally is 5 languages. However, I never really studied languages preferring physics and astronomy as my main passions. This covers the last 70 years of my existence.
It is shocking to me to hear you need all those documents in the US immediately. Education, especially for those youngsters, is sooo important and bureaucratic problems should not interfere with that.
It's probably not just about health. There's food and there's treats, and treats are for special occasions and to share, so if one kid brings sweets or chips, which are considered a treat, the teacher gets envious kids in his class. If you put chocolate sprinkles or cookies (speculaas on white bread isn't that unusual) it's food and then it's all right. Homework is not required until about 12 year old. So for learning Dutch this is already an exception and kids of that age should be stress free. School is about learning and therefore not about the kid showing what he can do and being better than others. Of course there will be some points he has to show what he's learned, the progress has to be monitored just in case a kid lags behind. But that's entirely different from competing.
Chocolate sprinkles (sweet breadtoppings) sometimes aren't allowed. Check first. Or just avoid to be sure. Trade in the chips for a piece of fruit wich is easy to handle and don't make to much of a mess. Banana's, clementine tangerines, orange, peach, pear, apple are all good ones.
@@lindaraterink6451 I personally believe that chocolate sprinkles are less unhealthy than charcuterie like ham, salamie, et cetera. But I think there is a common sense that eating chips is unhealthy and not something to give every day to a child.
@@lienbijs1205 agreed there are still things that can be better with this new implemented program. Only the Medezegensschapsraad can have an influence on this in the different schools though otherwise things will stay like this.
ima dutch person and i come from the city Dordrecht and i go to a Christian school we always pray before starting school and after we leave school to be true im so happy i was born as a dutch men
Dutch person here. The teacher I had in second and third grade did an excellent job, overall, with some minor 'mistakes' (she could be a bit harsh). But I remember, that all third graders were allowed to eat lunch once a year at her place at Wednesday, when school was out at about 12:00. It was very special to get into her car and see her house in the next village. She usually took two children at once. I still remember which boy I was with. Made me feel appreciated and respected as a child, to be invited into her privacy. Some teachers also visit the homes of the children once a year. But it's not common practice, I think. It happened perhaps just once in my life. Maybe rules have changed over time :)
I’ve heard of schools like this. The Dutch integration schools and I heard it’s really nice and kids get to learn Dutch so quickly. I’m very glad your son is getting along so well. Happy New Year🥰🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
It sounds like Cameron is attending a school called a "schakelklas". All "gemeentes" in NL have that. Its purpose is to bring foreign children up to level with a "normal" school, with the emphasis on learning the language as fast as possible, max 1 year, so they can seamlessly transfer to a regular school with the Dutch kids and can keep up in class. Some things will be different, like you'll need to provide school stuff yourself. But he can attend a school closer to home so he can bike to school.
My daughter is attending the local basisschool, the only thing I have to buy is a pencilbag, gymnastic clothes and lunch. This year as she is in group 8 we also had to buy is an agenda to learn to use it and has to note her first homework. They prepare the class to adjust to voortgezet onderwijs next year. And there you need to buy things like a device, pencils, paper and other stuff.
Teachers visiting you at home is not universal, but it isn’t unusual either. At the primary school my kids went to, a teacher would make an appointment and that day, instead of you coming to collect your child - if you did that at all, because at some stage depending on age and distance kids go to school by themselves - the teacher would take your child home to you after school and then have a chat, once a year as a minimum.
I don’t think teacher make house calls. But for sure they are friendly and invested. Approachable too. I loved my “base school” days. Super happy time.
You might like to read the book ‘The happiest kids in the world’ in which you’ll find lots of relevant information (written by an American and an English mom, living in The Netherlands).
A lovely video again. Noticed you have added the red "subscribe" rectangle, that's new? The thing that struck me when I first saw your video's was how you invited people to consider subscribing to your channel. I thought that was elegant and friendly. To me, it made you stand out to all the pushy people that spend half of a video telling me how to click and where. To be honest, I think most people kinda know how to subscribe to a channel. Your enthusiasm and positivity will make people want to either follow you, or it wont. Adding that rectangle will not change peoples minds if you ask me. You don't need it.
As a norwegian we moved to Scotland and i started school there. My mom sent with me healthy sanfwiches and fruits, but the local kids had chips, chocolates and white bread. I was so jealous then 😂. When we came back to norway these things where not aloud in schools. Even white bread. I’m glad to hear that he is thriving in a dutch school and you as a family get more time off to travel the continent :-)
That is also the historical reason the holidays in the NL. Otherwise it would make more sense to close the schools in winter which would save the school heating costs :)
Healthy lunches are definitely seen as important here. But I've seen plenty of parents get away with packing biscuits and crisps for snack time. When my kids were in preschool, only one parent got told off, and only because she decided to let her kids treat the class to candy, crisps, and toys! Oh right, birthday kids treat their classmates! They get to eat the treat during break, or take it home after class if it's non food. It doesn't have to be fancy, though some parents act like they have something to prove. A simple fruit kebab or cupcake is enough. As for meetings with the teachers: those are typically held at school, some with your child, some without. And they'll focus mainly on him, because there's no use comparing 30 unique children to each other. Most teachers will try not to list any of his traits as negative, especially when he's sitting with you. You'll discuss his strengths and struggles, and can talk about any changes either of you have noticed since he started school or between meetings. His grades are pretty low on the list of priorities, and will only be considered a problem if it means he'll have to repeat a year. Because here, schools try hard to prevent children from repeating a year. They try to find the reason why a child is struggling, and look for a solution that works for them. Whether it's extra classes, special tools, or in the worst case a different school that can better help them. And even in that worst case scenario, your child will not be seen as less than his classmates.
I did have a couple of my teachers visit my home.. but that was a long time ago oh dear I guess about 50 years ago.. turns out that because of that those two teachers ended up being my favorite teachers... why? Because it seemed they actually cared.. and as a result I did very well in those classes much better then I did in any of my other classes... it does make a difference... wish you the best
What is special for you is comment for us Dutch, i don't now a other way. Housevisites from teatchers happen often when somebody is new. Good thing that youre kid is feeling at home at school. That is the key to become a great student in the long runn, loving school, presure on a kid to preforme is never the good way
Hahaha yeahh.. chips would be candy. But dont stress about it, I totally get why you packed it. Its not like you put wine gums in there. Adjusting means learning! Btw if he goes on 'schoolreisje' it is allowed (at least I hope so) so then you can go a little wild.
My nephew is vegetarian and his lunch includes a small hand full of nuts (unsalted raw nuts) because it contains nutrients that he would otherwise get from meat. His parents had to fight the school, because they banned it as candy. They explained it and the school still refused to accept it was healthy food, not candy. His mother being an MD told the school either they stop their nonsense or she would simply get him a doctors note that he had to eat the nuts. They reluctantly caved. Some schools try to teach healthy eating habbits, but are clueless at what is actually healthy eating is.
@@00wheelie00 I agree that there are many flaws in this otherwise good program. I had a foster that absolutely refused to drink water (had to do with the situation he came out off) and wouldn't drink anything the whole day. Milk would become sour by the time they would eat lunch, so I gave him roosvicee the kind that was recomended to todlers by the consultatiebureau. Eventhough it has sugars they are natural wich is always better then the added sugars. We realy had to fight for him to get his fluids in, because they would not allow it.
School house calls are not mandatory, lots of schools don't do that, although some teachers may still visit the parents. Don't forget how much the house you are living in says about you. It can help a teacher better understand, know his/her pupils. My father worked in primary school and told me about it, for example he noticed one of the children never had lunch with him, he visited them and noticed they were poor and struggling. With that knowledge he made sure to make him lunch, because it effects his school performance. He didn't confront the parents with it or made a fuzz about it, just made sure the kid got a lunch.
comparing 1 of the worse (usa) with 1 of the best (nl) educational systems lol. you guys will do fine here and be happy, you upgraded your quality of life by a huge amount. welcome and best wishes ;)
🤣 you didn’t do anything wrong with his lunch, it’s just that chips are looked upon as a snack here more in the region of candy etc. Kids should only bring food that a person need to stay healthy. In the Netherlands chips is eaten on birthday party’s, in front of tv with a film or going to the beach with friends😉 Oh and the teacher visiting home, is a common thing in The Netherlands. It’s nice to know where a kid is comming from when it comes to school. And kids are very proud to have their teacher for a visit, as if a celebrety is comming to your house!
When I was at elementary school, I had several times that the teacher would have lunch at our house. I do remember asking my teacher if she wants to have lunch with me and my mom again, but I don't remember if I had asked her the first time or if it was my mom who invited her or if the teacher took the initiative. And it happened once that I had asked my teacher to join us for lunch at home and I forgot so I went with a friend to his place, called home and asked my mom if I can spend lunch break at my friend's and my mom said the teacher was already at home 😂 Sometimes I would have lunch at a friend's place and the teacher would also join. So back when I was young (42 years now ;-)) I think it was normal? Nice to hear you mentioning this and that it's still happening:-)
It depends on the school or the teacher if they make house calls. Where I went when I was a child there were the 10 min talks with the parents in school. So everywhere is different.
And about that paper work. Education comes before everything! Paperwork is not a priority over education. If your child isn't in school besides from being sick, you will be visited by a 'leerplichtambtenaar' (civil cervant for compulsory education) eventualy. He or she will make sure the 'leerplichtwet' (Compulsory Education Act is implented.) Also something that is considered normal in US. Is to sign your kid out of school for apointments or just because you want to take him idk shopping. You can't do that here. They will allow for some leave days like a wedding in the 1st degree or a funeral but you can't just go sign your kid of just because. Dentist or non life threating doctors appointments are to be made outside of school hours perferably.
The advantage of paying relatively much on taxes. It makes life so much better when spent on things like infrastructure, education, healthcare. And that benefits the whole society.
Looks like you two are doing the right things for your little one, next thing will be joining some sports club for the little one, depending on what he likes of course. Football is the most popular and if he can join a club nearby with some of his schoolmates, the better. Great way to increase social circle for you as parents as well. Apart from that how are you two as parents going on, as in language, socialising, work etc?
He is actually already part of the Ice Hockey club😊. It's been a great way for us to make friends with other parents. I start my Dutch classes in 2 weeks!!
@@livinglife.digital3399 Amazing! My son is 5 years old and I have been trying to find out what it's like to have him in a school there in Netherlands :).
in the Netherlands, you need to have good papers for your kid to be able to NOT go to school. kind of the other way around. we have a society here built for the weaker members of the community, elders and children
Its not uncommon to have a teacther vissiting . when i was 4 or 5 the teacher would regular go and visit parrents during lunch time or after school. Mostly for social contact on how the family relations are getting to know each other etc . It also helps with noting changes in behaviour when somthing happend in the family. Often they have a talk and can adjust to what is needed .
I can’t imagine the schools providing things for the kids at school. We have to buy so much for the school - we even had to buy covid purifiers for the classrooms ourselves
Uh, it's not so much that the school is looking out for your child's health, it's that chips are seen as a recreational food adjacent to that candy he wasn't supposed to bring. We only eat it in social gatherings or watching a movie, it's basically in the same class as popcorn. By Dutch standards you handed your son a bag of popcorn to eat at lunch in school.
Fortunately kids tend to pick up languages fast. By going to school they are much more immersed in the language and they actually need to learn less of it, since adults have twice the vocabulary of a 12 year old. Good luck in the Netherlands and with your own immersion.
Depends on which level you are sitting... Often with childern from good neigborhoods you dont have that service. But kids from family's who are, say, less capable in life they do visit. I never received a visit from anyone... Neither had the need for it.
Public schools are the norm , I would ask my kids how many slices of the dark brown bread they wanted.And most people choose healthy food ,although I am aware to the financial situation dictating the choice.But everyone can afford a piece of fruit to go with the sandwich.Hagelslag jam and peanut butter or cheese instead of meat makes a healthy lunch
Het is zelfs een plicht. Ze moeten. -De Leerplichtwet 1969 bepaalt dat kinderen tussen de 5 en 16 jaar onderwijs moeten volgen. De leerplicht geldt vanaf de eerste dag van de maand nadat een kind 5 jaar is geworden tot aan het eind van het schooljaar waarin het kind 16 jaar is geworden. -Voor jongeren die op hun 16e nog geen startkwalificatie hebben in de vorm van een mbo- (niveau 2 of hoger), havo- of vwo-diploma, geldt tot hun 18e een kwalificatieplicht. Dat betekent dat ze bij een school ingeschreven moeten staan tot ze 18 jaar zijn of tot ze een startkwalificatie behalen.
I know that it’s really good that the school provides you with everything you need, unfortunately you obviously still have to order books, and buy a lot of notebooks, pencils and more in middle school. Understandable but unfortunate. And about a previous video: many people know are third or fourth language because in middle school kids have to learn more english, german and french too. (And maybe frisian if you live in the province friesland) And another thing about a previous video: although really uncommon, school buses are a thing here, when i was in elementary school at the side of the town where i lived the bus would pick up all the students on one square. (so it wouldn’t come to our house but we had to go to the square to get picked up by the bus) and it would bring us to the other side of town where our school is.
I realize that each country has its own culture but my heart breaks when I see how much pressure American kids experience from such an early age in the American school system. I am sorry to say but I would almost call it emotional child abuse. And the weird thing is that western European children get far better educated than their American peers.
@user-xxxxxn zucht.... Weer zo'n flapdrol. En natuurlijk een "anoniempje". Ik ook, hoor, maar ik maak niet van dit soort kleingeestige opmerkingen. Deze vrouw maakt er juist een heel punt van dat haar zoon via school in contact komt met de Nederlandse maatschappij.
I find the videos interesting to watch but all those cuts take away from the integrity. edit: in the 70s all we did was play shoot each other playing cowboys or allied v axis. I guess times have changed. only an hour lunch break now? it used to be an hour and 30 minutes :)
Early in the video you said you were not that happy with the school (education) system, however it seems near the end you prefer it above the US system. What changed your mind in this regard ??
I believe I said "I wasn't comfortable with it" which means that I wasn't familiar with how it works hence the un-comfortability. NOT that I wasn't happy with it.
Nederlands is helemaal geen moeilijke taal. Engelssprekende weten Nederlands voor 50%. Dutch is not a difficult language at all, English speakers know 50% of Dutch. I was amazed at how many words they have in common although a little disguised.
So will he change to a ‘normal’ school after 1 year in intensive dutch school ? Or is the intensive dutch given in the school that he will stay at till the end of elementary?
Public education in The Netherlands is of a much, much higher standard than in the US. Non of the material he gets is sponsored by corporations, non. And yes, sending a kid to school with carbs, fat and salt (chips) is not a good thing to do (neither is a fruit juice as it is 100% sugar). I think he gets some special attention for work to do home as he lacks behind because normally kids don't have homework at elementary school.
@user-cs3og2ds6y aangezien de video’s bedoeld zijn voor een internationaal publiek schrijf ik in het Engels. Nederlands is een van de moeilijkste talen der wereld dus geef mensen de tijd.
So happy for you and Cameron that you are having such a positive experience. In regards to your finger gun example... I was reading an article a while back how a deaf kid in the US (or rather it's parents) was asked to CHANGE HIS NAME.... why? ... because the sign language version of his name looked like finger guns... I mean... what the actual bleep? learning should never be a competition, you want to have your kids learn to the best of their ability, not to the best of the neighbors kid ability. Teachers visiting parents depends on school and teachers. It will happen more often with smaller schools in smaller places I guess
Kids can only focus for just a amount of time…so here they have breaks to play, seems logic to me. When they grow older the playtimes will be shorter in time.
hi im dutch living in the usa topeka ks i do want mansion wen my 18 yr old did a tend pre school and elementary we had teachers visteing ower home long time a go so it potbelly depend all on it fun to some family from the usa start a new live in the netherladns
Just take care the school teaches history, geography, the basic three languages when it's a middle school, ( German, English, French), And sciences/math...Some schools lack...How can you survive if you have no idea of basic science, history and geography... let alone not speak your languages... I was very disappointed in my kids middle school...
When I was a kid I pretended to have a gun, rifle and even a bazooka. ;) None of which you can get in The Netherlands unless you’re the defence minister. ;)
About the documents: the Dutch act more to the spirit of the law, the USA to the letter of a law. The effects are huge. We think a child's access to education goes before small print. And about the 'gun' thing. That's America for you. We don't want that 'gun's are cool' culture here, on so many levels.
The Dutch school system is based on the idea that children are taught by people who know their stuff. Turns out that the government and parents are growing increasingly concerned about how ignorant Dutch teachers are when it comes to spelling, mathematics or general knowledge. Out of experience: most Dutch teachers couldn't write 6 Dutch sentences without at least one major spelling error in each one of them. As far as basic mathematic goes: I'm quite sure that the majority of Dutch teachers couldn't add 387 + 213 without using a calculator.
@A Internet is niet beperkt tot Nederlands en als Engels de voertaal is op een forum, dan pas je je aan. Mensen die in Nederland willen wonen, hoeven geen rekening te houden met Nederlanders. Nederlanders worden verondersteld zich aan te passen aan de culturen van immigranten. Wollah!
Can I be blunt and say something about the video? Thanks, I will. If you want this channel to grow, then please do something about the editing. Don't worry to much about mistakes, or do retakes. It is hard to look at when you do cuts every two or three words. It's annoying and gets in the way of the story. Please see this as positive feedback, because I think you can make this work. I feel bad for you that you came here during this shitshow with covid, we are not at our best right now. Under 'normal' circumstances this is a nice country to be in.
I am a little bit surprised that you say that you did not have to show any documents when inscribing Cameron to school.. I assume you had at least to demonstrate that you did not abduct him somewhere? Maybe you exaggerate a little bit the simplicity of the Dutch bureaucracy? (happily we do have some :)
Just to clarify; I did have to present documents. However, there are some that I did not have readily available when we first registered him however still had to send over to the school once we had them.
Education comes above all else. Even when the documents needed are not available (yet) the child can not miss a day of school because of it. The law simply forbids it. We have a civil officer in service to find the children that are not enlisted and enforce the law on parents and or school to protect the rights of children to be educated. So in theory if the school refuses a child to be enlisted after the parents made effort, because of missing documents it will be reprimanded by law enforcement. In the day to day practice we would like to find solutions, before it has to come to that. Even if it means being in that school temporarely for the child, until the solution is found. The child should not be harmed by this bureaucracy and be able to learn, while the adults figure everything out for him/her. Also when documents aren't being provided by the parent, after asking for them by the school several times, the school is oblicated to report this aswel to this civil officer and another investigation will be made by him/her towards the parents. To make it short, they will find out if somethings wrong in the home situation soon enough and in case of crime will be acted accordingly, but even then, if the child is not physicaly harmed or in danger in any way, education still comes first. Because law is complicated it goes a lot further to explain it all, but this is basicaly how it works. And if everything goes accordingly, you'll probably never see this officer, eventhough he is working behind the scenes for your childs rights.
Americans really give their children chips for lunch? That doesnt sound very healthy. Its funny how you mention ‘public school or montessori school’, because in the Netherlands 99% of the schools are public schools, the Montessori schools áre public schools as well, and basicly everyone goes to a public school. The education in a public school is as good as in a private school. (International schools are the exceptions.) Same for universities, we only have 2 private universities and the education is not better than in public universities, you just pay more.
That schoolsystem you are talking about, is not only in Dordrecht but in all Dutch cities, because we had millions of refugees with children who did not speak Dutch. About the toy guns, we don't approve that in the Netherlands. We are a gun "free' country and want to keep it that way.
"We"..... As far as I know Nerf guns are among the biggest sellers here in the Netherlands too. Don't act like your 'vertrutting' is generally accepted as the norm.
@@SamuelHauptmannvanDam Yup, that teacher in the US was clearly overreacting. The boy was just toying. Then again, the whole school atmo over there seems very tense. Most certainly not a healthy place for kids to be. Cheers from Amsterdam.
I feel like where I live in the United States is way more similar to what you describe as Dutch as opposed to anything you're describing as American, lol. Your experience in the US sounds horrible. Thankfully it's not like that everywhere, and the way that you make the US sound homogenous is disingenuous at best. There are pros and cons of living in any country (I have also lived in various cities in France and spent months living in Amsterdam doing research), and glorifying one country at the expense of another isn't a great look. Right now I am anything but proud to be an American, but I have learned not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I would watch more videos if you would just focus on how things are done in the Netherlands instead of all of the comparing, which just makes you sound negative. Focus on celebrating that which is Dutch. Complaining about the US is overdone and boring, and you describe the US in caricature instead of citing facts.
In a year or so he will speak Dutch fluently and has to translate all the time for his parents :)
😊 He is already Mama's translator!
@@livinglife.digital3399 Be carefull, children are not ment to translate adult stuff. Learn Dutch asap for his sake. Too many foreigners make that mistake.
A year? Far, far less than that. Weeks, a few months at the most.
@@GerdtBrouwer That's not true, only immigrants from non-western countries do that and not even all of them.
Our society is way less competitive than the American society. It's not about being the best of your class, but rather being the best 'you'.
Happy new year for you and your loved ones.
I love that! Happy New Year, Marjan.
lol highly depends to what kind of school you go... Plus which level. I agree that until the age of 12 it isnt... After that it starts...
We Dutch generally feel more for cooperation rather then being competitive. We realize that on the long run competitiveness only produces losers. Even today's winner will be tomorrow's loser and if that isn't depressing, I don't know what is. With cooperation everybody wins equally and that made us what we are today. Our whole country is rich, not just a small privileged elite.
@@FrankHeuvelman Lol... Yes everybody is rich. But who is earning it? Ever thought about the net income to the state...
Or said in different words; do you even know who carry the burden of that standard of living?
I can tell you... If you earn more than 42k a year you are a net contributer to the dutch treasury... Below that the dutch government pays you more in ''toeslagen / subsidies'' than that you pay in taxes...
@@tim3440 You live in a world already long gone by, my friend. You still live in the 20th century.
That's why you are called conservatives. You guys try to hold on to an already sunken ship, too late to conserve anything at all.
You got your chance but you blew it.
I am so thankful for being born here in Holland instead of that hell hole you guys so stubbornly keep referring to as the 'United' States of America.
You've failed as a nation but you don't realize it yet.
So the house visit thing in the Netherlands: I had a house visit as well when I was a child. I was a very good student and was the teachers pet of many teachers. One teacher in particular I had a special bond with because she was my favorite and I almost saw her as my aunt. She’d make 2 house visits when I told her my mom was pregnant. She knew I was really excited about it and she really wanted to meet my family. I still have fond memories of her. So I’d say yes, house visits happen and aren’t weird.
I think it's incredible!
@@livinglife.digital3399 My teacher from kindergarden still recognised me 30 years later. (i saw her during carnaval)
Education should be free for all children. Worldwide. It's time we get on with implementing the basic rights for children. And healthcare
Agreed!
Only the sun is free; "free education" isn't free, it's still payed for through taxes.
@@3dmaster205 excellent observation. I should have stated that I'd prefer it if the cost of education be carried by the entire society, giving every child an opportunity without conditions
@@09conrado You're going to produce the opposite. In the Netherlands parents are free to choose the school to send their kids to, there are no district systems and such; all of that stuff happens in the great free US though. It means your education system will grind down to a halt with ever increasing budgets, for the folks making your education have essentially free money and power, and can put in place whatever they want, regardless of whether or not they actually educating your children, indeed, educating will become less important that ideological indoctrination; for as long as the brainwashed kids are brainwashed to vote to keep the system in place; they "educators" have unlimited power and money.
This is why the US education system is so bad.
You want good education you keep it free, with as little government involvement as possible, and let parents freely send and take children to/from schools as they see fit, this will force schools to educate, or they lose students and go bankrupt.
@@3dmaster205 I prefer the Finnish system. Best in the world
Hi, I am Dutch myself and so is my wife. She works as a financial manager at the international school for nato in brunssum, the netherlands. At this school are children of nato soldiers who work at nato headquarters, but also children of expats. The parents of the expats pay up to 20,000 euros per year for their child. These parents should watch your video so they realize that by sending their child to a free public Dutch school, their child is learning so much more. The child learns the language, culture, friendships for life. The children are even picked up at home by bus, your son learns how to cycle and how traffic works here. You're doing really well, and you're open to change, and that makes everything so much easier.
Lolz: Just a warning that now you child has a more stress free school life with good food and exercise, he will probably grow up to be a tall giant :D
😊 🙌
I am Dutch and you make me very proud
According to UN the Dutch kids are the happiest in the world. And school is an important factor in this result. I don’t remember exactly what is was, but something that the kids are taken serious. And actively encouraged to develop their own personality and opinions. And the non competitiveness in the school also played also an important role.
Btw actually almost all Dutch schools are public schools in the sense that they are all financed by the government. The only differences between schools can be based on religion or/and pedagogical approach.
An other important factor is not directly school related: but being able to cycle anywhere, including school by themselves. Gives them some responsibility and freedom. And exercise.
@@autohmae yes, that was mentioned too in the UN report. The children become independent that way and can make their own choices where to go.
Bicycle Dutch has lot of videos with cycling schoolchildren on his channel. All videos have at least one comment about the children not being overweight.
There is another YT channel That covers this topic called : Not juist bikes
I actually really enjoy school and always stay to 5pm on fridays where I can use stuff like 3D printers and laser cutters.
School in the US sounds wild. But some things you see on TV do make sense now.
The house calls are totally normal as far as I know. Every year there is one, it's to see the child in their home situation. If everything is normal it has nothing to do with the parents, but it can also be used to detect something wrong at home. I always really liked them. My teacher would usually come home with me for lunch, I'd show the things I liked, and my parents and teacher would have a conversation during lunch.
Thank you for making this video! My daughter might be coming with me when I move overseas (depending on custody matters), and I have been researching schools. This has helped me a ton!
You are so welcome!
Normally, teachers will not make house calls but your son goes to a school for kids who have not only learn but also adjust to a new country. A home visit might be necessary to see how the parents experience their offspring’s adjustment. They see and hear things that the teacher may not.
a school for well... Childern with needs...
@@tim3440
All children have needs but sadly, they do not always get what they need. In this case, it is a little boy who is taken by his parents to a country where he does not know the language. I have a lot of experience in this as I used to be one of those kids and ended up teaching a group of refugee children. I am happy to say that, the younger they are, the sooner they adapt.
This young fellow seems to be very bright and, with a little help from school (help I never got in the 60’s before mass migration was an issue), he will be translating for his mom in no time.
@@johnkochen7264 Where are you from? Originally ?
Born in the Netherlands, grew up in Canada and, as a teen, got dragged back to the Netherlands. My first language was the local Limburgian dialect, not Dutch. I learned to read and write in English. Back in the Netherlands, I reconnected with Limburgian and learned standard Dutch but, living close to the German border, also became reasonably fluent in German. Add to that some school French and my tally is 5 languages. However, I never really studied languages preferring physics and astronomy as my main passions. This covers the last 70 years of my existence.
People might be (un) pleasantly surprised by what teachers know of the parents as children are mostly very open towards their teachers
It is shocking to me to hear you need all those documents in the US immediately. Education, especially for those youngsters, is sooo important and bureaucratic problems should not interfere with that.
Cam is fast becoming a dutch savant🤣 love it! He will learn the language so fast!!
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I don’t know how I discovered your channel this is all fascinating for me!
Glad you found it!🤗
It's probably not just about health. There's food and there's treats, and treats are for special occasions and to share, so if one kid brings sweets or chips, which are considered a treat, the teacher gets envious kids in his class. If you put chocolate sprinkles or cookies (speculaas on white bread isn't that unusual) it's food and then it's all right.
Homework is not required until about 12 year old. So for learning Dutch this is already an exception and kids of that age should be stress free.
School is about learning and therefore not about the kid showing what he can do and being better than others. Of course there will be some points he has to show what he's learned, the progress has to be monitored just in case a kid lags behind. But that's entirely different from competing.
Chocolate sprinkles (sweet breadtoppings) sometimes aren't allowed. Check first. Or just avoid to be sure. Trade in the chips for a piece of fruit wich is easy to handle and don't make to much of a mess. Banana's, clementine tangerines, orange, peach, pear, apple are all good ones.
@@lindaraterink6451 I personally believe that chocolate sprinkles are less unhealthy than charcuterie like ham, salamie, et cetera. But I think there is a common sense that eating chips is unhealthy and not something to give every day to a child.
@@lienbijs1205 agreed there are still things that can be better with this new implemented program. Only the Medezegensschapsraad can have an influence on this in the different schools though otherwise things will stay like this.
@@lindaraterink6451 Seriously? What kind of authoritarian asswipes are running a school where sprinkles aren't allowed?
ima dutch person and i come from the city Dordrecht and i go to a Christian school we always pray before starting school and after we leave school to be true im so happy i was born as a dutch men
I love your enthusiasm
Thank you!
@A Kijk, hier een typisch voorbeeld van een bekrompen Nederlander. Die bestaan ook helaas Wat is er? Kun je het niet verstaan?
Dutch person here. The teacher I had in second and third grade did an excellent job, overall, with some minor 'mistakes' (she could be a bit harsh). But I remember, that all third graders were allowed to eat lunch once a year at her place at Wednesday, when school was out at about 12:00. It was very special to get into her car and see her house in the next village. She usually took two children at once. I still remember which boy I was with. Made me feel appreciated and respected as a child, to be invited into her privacy.
Some teachers also visit the homes of the children once a year. But it's not common practice, I think. It happened perhaps just once in my life. Maybe rules have changed over time :)
I’ve heard of schools like this. The Dutch integration schools and I heard it’s really nice and kids get to learn Dutch so quickly. I’m very glad your son is getting along so well. Happy New Year🥰🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Happy New Year, Phina and Thank you!!💖
Hé Josphine, you here. Happy to see you.
It sounds like Cameron is attending a school called a "schakelklas". All "gemeentes" in NL have that. Its purpose is to bring foreign children up to level with a "normal" school, with the emphasis on learning the language as fast as possible, max 1 year, so they can seamlessly transfer to a regular school with the Dutch kids and can keep up in class. Some things will be different, like you'll need to provide school stuff yourself. But he can attend a school closer to home so he can bike to school.
My daughter is attending the local basisschool, the only thing I have to buy is a pencilbag, gymnastic clothes and lunch. This year as she is in group 8 we also had to buy is an agenda to learn to use it and has to note her first homework. They prepare the class to adjust to voortgezet onderwijs next year. And there you need to buy things like a device, pencils, paper and other stuff.
Teachers visiting you at home is not universal, but it isn’t unusual either. At the primary school my kids went to, a teacher would make an appointment and that day, instead of you coming to collect your child - if you did that at all, because at some stage depending on age and distance kids go to school by themselves - the teacher would take your child home to you after school and then have a chat, once a year as a minimum.
I don’t think teacher make house calls. But for sure they are friendly and invested. Approachable too. I loved my “base school” days. Super happy time.
You might like to read the book ‘The happiest kids in the world’ in which you’ll find lots of relevant information (written by an American and an English mom, living in The Netherlands).
A lovely video again. Noticed you have added the red "subscribe" rectangle, that's new? The thing that struck me when I first saw your video's was how you invited people to consider subscribing to your channel. I thought that was elegant and friendly. To me, it made you stand out to all the pushy people that spend half of a video telling me how to click and where. To be honest, I think most people kinda know how to subscribe to a channel. Your enthusiasm and positivity will make people want to either follow you, or it wont. Adding that rectangle will not change peoples minds if you ask me. You don't need it.
Happy new year, no comment on the rest because that's how it works in the Netherlands...be happy!
Gelukkig nieuwjaar, Eric!!😊
As a norwegian we moved to Scotland and i started school there. My mom sent with me healthy sanfwiches and fruits, but the local kids had chips, chocolates and white bread. I was so jealous then 😂. When we came back to norway these things where not aloud in schools. Even white bread. I’m glad to hear that he is thriving in a dutch school and you as a family get more time off to travel the continent :-)
The vacation breaks in the US were establish because it was harvesting time or work in the fields in the Nederlands it is different
That is also the historical reason the holidays in the NL.
Otherwise it would make more sense to close the schools in winter which would save the school heating costs :)
Healthy lunches are definitely seen as important here. But I've seen plenty of parents get away with packing biscuits and crisps for snack time. When my kids were in preschool, only one parent got told off, and only because she decided to let her kids treat the class to candy, crisps, and toys!
Oh right, birthday kids treat their classmates!
They get to eat the treat during break, or take it home after class if it's non food.
It doesn't have to be fancy, though some parents act like they have something to prove.
A simple fruit kebab or cupcake is enough.
As for meetings with the teachers: those are typically held at school, some with your child, some without. And they'll focus mainly on him, because there's no use comparing 30 unique children to each other. Most teachers will try not to list any of his traits as negative, especially when he's sitting with you. You'll discuss his strengths and struggles, and can talk about any changes either of you have noticed since he started school or between meetings. His grades are pretty low on the list of priorities, and will only be considered a problem if it means he'll have to repeat a year. Because here, schools try hard to prevent children from repeating a year. They try to find the reason why a child is struggling, and look for a solution that works for them. Whether it's extra classes, special tools, or in the worst case a different school that can better help them. And even in that worst case scenario, your child will not be seen as less than his classmates.
I did have a couple of my teachers visit my home.. but that was a long time ago oh dear I guess about 50 years ago.. turns out that because of that those two teachers ended up being my favorite teachers... why? Because it seemed they actually cared.. and as a result I did very well in those classes much better then I did in any of my other classes... it does make a difference... wish you the best
Thank you, George!
when you do not have to think about school shootings, you can be more relaxed. Its a blessing that the Netherlands has VERY strict gunlaws.
YES!
Ga je dit nu onder alle comments zetten? Bemoei je even lekker met je eigen zaken, vervelende bemoeial. @user-xxxxxn
What is special for you is comment for us Dutch, i don't now a other way. Housevisites from teatchers happen often when somebody is new. Good thing that youre kid is feeling at home at school. That is the key to become a great student in the long runn, loving school, presure on a kid to preforme is never the good way
ik zal mijn best doen😊
@A Waarom dat komt wel gun mensen wat tijd
Hahaha yeahh.. chips would be candy. But dont stress about it, I totally get why you packed it. Its not like you put wine gums in there. Adjusting means learning! Btw if he goes on 'schoolreisje' it is allowed (at least I hope so) so then you can go a little wild.
My nephew is vegetarian and his lunch includes a small hand full of nuts (unsalted raw nuts) because it contains nutrients that he would otherwise get from meat.
His parents had to fight the school, because they banned it as candy. They explained it and the school still refused to accept it was healthy food, not candy. His mother being an MD told the school either they stop their nonsense or she would simply get him a doctors note that he had to eat the nuts. They reluctantly caved.
Some schools try to teach healthy eating habbits, but are clueless at what is actually healthy eating is.
@@00wheelie00 I agree that there are many flaws in this otherwise good program. I had a foster that absolutely refused to drink water (had to do with the situation he came out off) and wouldn't drink anything the whole day. Milk would become sour by the time they would eat lunch, so I gave him roosvicee the kind that was recomended to todlers by the consultatiebureau. Eventhough it has sugars they are natural wich is always better then the added sugars. We realy had to fight for him to get his fluids in, because they would not allow it.
Yes some teachers do come to your house to visit! Not in every school tho.
Good to know!
School house calls are not mandatory, lots of schools don't do that, although some teachers may still visit the parents. Don't forget how much the house you are living in says about you. It can help a teacher better understand, know his/her pupils. My father worked in primary school and told me about it, for example he noticed one of the children never had lunch with him, he visited them and noticed they were poor and struggling. With that knowledge he made sure to make him lunch, because it effects his school performance. He didn't confront the parents with it or made a fuzz about it, just made sure the kid got a lunch.
That's a great father you got! Wise man.
@@BrendonChase_2015 Thanks.
comparing 1 of the worse (usa) with 1 of the best (nl) educational systems lol. you guys will do fine here and be happy, you upgraded your quality of life by a huge amount. welcome and best wishes ;)
🤣 you didn’t do anything wrong with his lunch, it’s just that chips are looked upon as a snack here more in the region of candy etc. Kids should only bring food that a person need to stay healthy. In the Netherlands chips is eaten on birthday party’s, in front of tv with a film or going to the beach with friends😉
Oh and the teacher visiting home, is a common thing in The Netherlands. It’s nice to know where a kid is comming from when it comes to school. And kids are very proud to have their teacher for a visit, as if a celebrety is comming to your house!
When I was at elementary school, I had several times that the teacher would have lunch at our house. I do remember asking my teacher if she wants to have lunch with me and my mom again, but I don't remember if I had asked her the first time or if it was my mom who invited her or if the teacher took the initiative. And it happened once that I had asked my teacher to join us for lunch at home and I forgot so I went with a friend to his place, called home and asked my mom if I can spend lunch break at my friend's and my mom said the teacher was already at home 😂 Sometimes I would have lunch at a friend's place and the teacher would also join. So back when I was young (42 years now ;-)) I think it was normal? Nice to hear you mentioning this and that it's still happening:-)
Can you please make a video about how to find work in the Netherlands and how to immigrate there?
@A Maar elke Nederlander wil Engels oefenen.
It depends on the school or the teacher if they make house calls. Where I went when I was a child there were the 10 min talks with the parents in school. So everywhere is different.
And about that paper work. Education comes before everything! Paperwork is not a priority over education. If your child isn't in school besides from being sick, you will be visited by a 'leerplichtambtenaar' (civil cervant for compulsory education) eventualy. He or she will make sure the 'leerplichtwet' (Compulsory Education Act is implented.) Also something that is considered normal in US. Is to sign your kid out of school for apointments or just because you want to take him idk shopping. You can't do that here. They will allow for some leave days like a wedding in the 1st degree or a funeral but you can't just go sign your kid of just because. Dentist or non life threating doctors appointments are to be made outside of school hours perferably.
The advantage of paying relatively much on taxes. It makes life so much better when spent on things like infrastructure, education, healthcare.
And that benefits the whole society.
I've been teaching for 9 years and do home visits all of the time here in Michigan USA 🤷🏿♀️
Looks like you two are doing the right things for your little one, next thing will be joining some sports club for the little one, depending on what he likes of course. Football is the most popular and if he can join a club nearby with some of his schoolmates, the better. Great way to increase social circle for you as parents as well. Apart from that how are you two as parents going on, as in language, socialising, work etc?
He is actually already part of the Ice Hockey club😊. It's been a great way for us to make friends with other parents.
I start my Dutch classes in 2 weeks!!
Is this the same city as Dordrecht?
Thanks for the amazing video, how old is your son?
Thank you! He just turned 8.
@@livinglife.digital3399 Amazing! My son is 5 years old and I have been trying to find out what it's like to have him in a school there in Netherlands :).
Can you do a video on how you were able to move to the Netherlands
Yes, I planned on doing one soon!
in the Netherlands, you need to have good papers for your kid to be able to NOT go to school. kind of the other way around. we have a society here built for the weaker members of the community, elders and children
Its not uncommon to have a teacther vissiting . when i was 4 or 5 the teacher would regular go and visit parrents during lunch time or after school. Mostly for social contact on how the family relations are getting to know each other etc .
It also helps with noting changes in behaviour when somthing happend in the family. Often they have a talk and can adjust to what is needed .
The Netherlands does not have a gun culture. Many toy guns are out-lawed... just so that you know...
I can’t imagine the schools providing things for the kids at school. We have to buy so much for the school - we even had to buy covid purifiers for the classrooms ourselves
Uh, it's not so much that the school is looking out for your child's health, it's that chips are seen as a recreational food adjacent to that candy he wasn't supposed to bring. We only eat it in social gatherings or watching a movie, it's basically in the same class as popcorn. By Dutch standards you handed your son a bag of popcorn to eat at lunch in school.
Fortunately kids tend to pick up languages fast. By going to school they are much more immersed in the language and they actually need to learn less of it, since adults have twice the vocabulary of a 12 year old. Good luck in the Netherlands and with your own immersion.
Dank je wel, Korilian!
My kids school break is 15 minutes and it’s at the end of the 8 hour day. It makes no sense bc he’s 7 :( in the US
Depends on which level you are sitting... Often with childern from good neigborhoods you dont have that service. But kids from family's who are, say, less capable in life they do visit. I never received a visit from anyone... Neither had the need for it.
Public schools are the norm , I would ask my kids how many slices of the dark brown bread they wanted.And most people choose healthy food ,although I am aware to the financial situation dictating the choice.But everyone can afford a piece of fruit to go with the sandwich.Hagelslag jam and peanut butter or cheese instead of meat makes a healthy lunch
School is een recht wat een kind heeft in zijn leven!
Het is zelfs een plicht. Ze moeten.
-De Leerplichtwet 1969 bepaalt dat kinderen tussen de 5 en 16 jaar onderwijs moeten volgen. De leerplicht geldt vanaf de eerste dag van de maand nadat een kind 5 jaar is geworden tot aan het eind van het schooljaar waarin het kind 16 jaar is geworden.
-Voor jongeren die op hun 16e nog geen startkwalificatie hebben in de vorm van een mbo- (niveau 2 of hoger), havo- of vwo-diploma, geldt tot hun 18e een kwalificatieplicht. Dat betekent dat ze bij een school ingeschreven moeten staan tot ze 18 jaar zijn of tot ze een startkwalificatie behalen.
Great video, great content :) One small tip: Take a breath every now and then ;-) But enjoyable vid!
I know that it’s really good that the school provides you with everything you need, unfortunately you obviously still have to order books, and buy a lot of notebooks, pencils and more in middle school. Understandable but unfortunate.
And about a previous video: many people know are third or fourth language because in middle school kids have to learn more english, german and french too. (And maybe frisian if you live in the province friesland)
And another thing about a previous video: although really uncommon, school buses are a thing here, when i was in elementary school at the side of the town where i lived the bus would pick up all the students on one square. (so it wouldn’t come to our house but we had to go to the square to get picked up by the bus) and it would bring us to the other side of town where our school is.
Really? Do we have school busses in the Netherlands?? Didn’t know that!!
I realize that each country has its own culture but my heart breaks when I see how much pressure American kids experience from such an early age in the American school system. I am sorry to say but I would almost call it emotional child abuse. And the weird thing is that western European children get far better educated than their American peers.
@user-xxxxxn zucht.... Weer zo'n flapdrol. En natuurlijk een "anoniempje". Ik ook, hoor, maar ik maak niet van dit soort kleingeestige opmerkingen. Deze vrouw maakt er juist een heel punt van dat haar zoon via school in contact komt met de Nederlandse maatschappij.
Schools in NL have been closed for months due to COVID.
weeks...not months
1 week
The buildings where closed. The teaching continious on Zoom.
Surely they begun school again by now 😳 😕
I find the videos interesting to watch but all those cuts take away from the integrity.
edit: in the 70s all we did was play shoot each other playing cowboys or allied v axis.
I guess times have changed.
only an hour lunch break now? it used to be an hour and 30 minutes :)
Thank you for the feedback! I'm a work in progress😊
Early in the video you said you were not that happy with the school (education) system, however it seems near the end you prefer it above the US system. What changed your mind in this regard ??
I believe I said "I wasn't comfortable with it" which means that I wasn't familiar with how it works hence the un-comfortability. NOT that I wasn't happy with it.
Nederlands is helemaal geen moeilijke taal. Engelssprekende weten Nederlands voor 50%. Dutch is not a difficult language at all, English speakers know 50% of Dutch. I was amazed at how many words they have in common although a little disguised.
All over Europe chips don't count as side dish as in the USA. Mostly this is acceptable In front of tv or Cinema, but that's it.
I never heard of schools banning chips or sweets. But maybe it depends on the school.
They do. We have monday and friday cookie days. Rest of the week are fruit days.
are you able to home school, world school or unschool your son?
So will he change to a ‘normal’ school after 1 year in intensive dutch school ? Or is the intensive dutch given in the school that he will stay at till the end of elementary?
Public education in The Netherlands is of a much, much higher standard than in the US. Non of the material he gets is sponsored by corporations, non. And yes, sending a kid to school with carbs, fat and salt (chips) is not a good thing to do (neither is a fruit juice as it is 100% sugar).
I think he gets some special attention for work to do home as he lacks behind because normally kids don't have homework at elementary school.
The happiest kids in the world live…in the Netherlands.
@user-cs3og2ds6y aangezien de video’s bedoeld zijn voor een internationaal publiek schrijf ik in het Engels.
Nederlands is een van de moeilijkste talen der wereld dus geef mensen de tijd.
Best thing; NO SCHOOLSHOOTINGS! Welcome in the Netherlands.
How is your son doing making friends?
The school next door is good because all your schoolfriends live nearby.
So happy for you and Cameron that you are having such a positive experience. In regards to your finger gun example... I was reading an article a while back how a deaf kid in the US (or rather it's parents) was asked to CHANGE HIS NAME.... why? ... because the sign language version of his name looked like finger guns... I mean... what the actual bleep?
learning should never be a competition, you want to have your kids learn to the best of their ability, not to the best of the neighbors kid ability. Teachers visiting parents depends on school and teachers. It will happen more often with smaller schools in smaller places I guess
@A I talk whatever language I damn well please, go be a vinegar pisser on someone elses comment
What was the reason that you came here i am new on the site do you have a man that is in the army that work in the Netherlands ?
Kids can only focus for just a amount of time…so here they have breaks to play, seems logic to me. When they grow older the playtimes will be shorter in time.
Chips on lunch? 🤯 shocking. Greetings from Tricity in Poland
Is your sons school free of charge??
@A I'm not sure what this says as I only speak English
Nice story, but I urge you to cut your movies in a more relaxed way. The scenes are cut with too short delays, sometimes even cropping you speech.
The toys your kid plays with are largely the toys their environment teaches them to play with..
@A als u zo graag een Nederlandse reactie wilt : ik heb een tiefus hekel aan mensen die mij proberen op te leggen wat te doen... zoals u.
hi im dutch living in the usa topeka ks i do want mansion wen my 18 yr old did a tend pre school and elementary we had teachers visteing ower home long time a go so it potbelly depend all on it fun to some family from the usa start a new live in the netherladns
@A hahaha 😆 no I have no feeling to do that to many brain work 😅 I think in English,
Who edited this video, it looks like you’re jumping all over the place. Relax a bit, breathe. Hopeyournotinahurry 😉
Keeping kids inside for the whole schoolday sounds like torture to me.
It is!
Just take care the school teaches history, geography, the basic three languages when it's a middle school, ( German, English, French), And sciences/math...Some schools lack...How can you survive if you have no idea of basic science, history and geography... let alone not speak your languages... I was very disappointed in my kids middle school...
Wow I didn’t know that American kids don’t play outside during school days 😱
We had recess up until high school (14-15 aged), I think it's pretty common in the US. Idk what part of the US she is from
Dutch schools teach in English or Dutch?
Public schools teach in Dutch.
When I was a kid I pretended to have a gun, rifle and even a bazooka. ;)
None of which you can get in The Netherlands unless you’re the defence minister. ;)
@user-cs3og2ds6y Stel dat jij naar… Frankrijk wil, is het dan realistisch om vloeiend Frans te moeten spreken voordat je erheen gaat?
About the documents: the Dutch act more to the spirit of the law, the USA to the letter of a law. The effects are huge. We think a child's access to education goes before small print.
And about the 'gun' thing. That's America for you. We don't want that 'gun's are cool' culture here, on so many levels.
@A Ik sprak tegen de Amerikanen die dit zien, niet tegen jou. Zie laatste zin.
The Dutch school system is based on the idea that children are taught by people who know their stuff. Turns out that the government and parents are growing increasingly concerned about how ignorant Dutch teachers are when it comes to spelling, mathematics or general knowledge. Out of experience: most Dutch teachers couldn't write 6 Dutch sentences without at least one major spelling error in each one of them. As far as basic mathematic goes: I'm quite sure that the majority of Dutch teachers couldn't add 387 + 213 without using a calculator.
@A Internet is niet beperkt tot Nederlands en als Engels de voertaal is op een forum, dan pas je je aan.
Mensen die in Nederland willen wonen, hoeven geen rekening te houden met Nederlanders. Nederlanders worden verondersteld zich aan te passen aan de culturen van immigranten. Wollah!
Can I be blunt and say something about the video? Thanks, I will. If you want this channel to grow, then please do something about the editing. Don't worry to much about mistakes, or do retakes. It is hard to look at when you do cuts every two or three words. It's annoying and gets in the way of the story.
Please see this as positive feedback, because I think you can make this work. I feel bad for you that you came here during this shitshow with covid, we are not at our best right now. Under 'normal' circumstances this is a nice country to be in.
I am a little bit surprised that you say that you did not have to show any documents when inscribing Cameron to school.. I assume you had at least to demonstrate that you did not abduct him somewhere? Maybe you exaggerate a little bit the simplicity of the Dutch bureaucracy? (happily we do have some :)
Just to clarify; I did have to present documents. However, there are some that I did not have readily available when we first registered him however still had to send over to the school once we had them.
As long as he's registered with the municipality it's probably fine, which is a pretty straightforward process nowadays.
Education comes above all else. Even when the documents needed are not available (yet) the child can not miss a day of school because of it. The law simply forbids it. We have a civil officer in service to find the children that are not enlisted and enforce the law on parents and or school to protect the rights of children to be educated. So in theory if the school refuses a child to be enlisted after the parents made effort, because of missing documents it will be reprimanded by law enforcement. In the day to day practice we would like to find solutions, before it has to come to that. Even if it means being in that school temporarely for the child, until the solution is found. The child should not be harmed by this bureaucracy and be able to learn, while the adults figure everything out for him/her. Also when documents aren't being provided by the parent, after asking for them by the school several times, the school is oblicated to report this aswel to this civil officer and another investigation will be made by him/her towards the parents. To make it short, they will find out if somethings wrong in the home situation soon enough and in case of crime will be acted accordingly, but even then, if the child is not physicaly harmed or in danger in any way, education still comes first. Because law is complicated it goes a lot further to explain it all, but this is basicaly how it works. And if everything goes accordingly, you'll probably never see this officer, eventhough he is working behind the scenes for your childs rights.
Americans really give their children chips for lunch? That doesnt sound very healthy.
Its funny how you mention ‘public school or montessori school’, because in the Netherlands 99% of the schools are public schools, the Montessori schools áre public schools as well, and basicly everyone goes to a public school. The education in a public school is as good as in a private school. (International schools are the exceptions.)
Same for universities, we only have 2 private universities and the education is not better than in public universities, you just pay more.
That schoolsystem you are talking about, is not only in Dordrecht but in all Dutch cities, because we had millions of refugees with children who did not speak Dutch.
About the toy guns, we don't approve that in the Netherlands. We are a gun "free' country and want to keep it that way.
"We"..... As far as I know Nerf guns are among the biggest sellers here in the Netherlands too. Don't act like your 'vertrutting' is generally accepted as the norm.
Of course he was playing with a "gun"-the US is a gun culture. Cheers from the west Coast of Canada.
Totally normal in Europe as well. What's more striking is that the teacher is shocked. :P
@@nelerhabarber5602 not. 😂😂😂
@@SamuelHauptmannvanDam Yup, that teacher in the US was clearly overreacting. The boy was just toying. Then again, the whole school atmo over there seems very tense. Most certainly not a healthy place for kids to be. Cheers from Amsterdam.
Gementay..? Ga Main ta.
I feel like where I live in the United States is way more similar to what you describe as Dutch as opposed to anything you're describing as American, lol. Your experience in the US sounds horrible. Thankfully it's not like that everywhere, and the way that you make the US sound homogenous is disingenuous at best. There are pros and cons of living in any country (I have also lived in various cities in France and spent months living in Amsterdam doing research), and glorifying one country at the expense of another isn't a great look. Right now I am anything but proud to be an American, but I have learned not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I would watch more videos if you would just focus on how things are done in the Netherlands instead of all of the comparing, which just makes you sound negative. Focus on celebrating that which is Dutch. Complaining about the US is overdone and boring, and you describe the US in caricature instead of citing facts.