Putin and the Presidents: Julia Ioffe (interview) | FRONTLINE
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- Julia Ioffe is an American journalist who was born in Russia. She is a writer for and founding partner of the media company Puck. She previously reported on politics and world affairs for The Atlantic.
The following interview was conducted by the Kirk Documentary Group’s Michael Wiser for FRONTLINE on Sept. 28, 2022. It has been edited for clarity and length.
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We need another updated interview!
indeed. since then Ukraine stalemate, speaker Johnson holding aid, Navalny murdered, human rights campaigner Oleg Orlov sentenced to Prison, NATO expansion, elections coming up, etc..
0:22: ! Vladimir Putin sees the conflict in Ukraine as a war with the United States, not Ukraine.
7:32: 😡 Vladimir Putin despises Mikhail Gorbachev and sees him as someone who destroyed Russia, while also believing that Gorbachev was promised by the West that NATO would not expand eastward.
16:07: 🔑 Vladimir Putin's attempts to project strength and forge an alliance with the US were undermined by events such as the invasion of Iraq and color revolutions in former Soviet republics.
24:04: 🌍 The US initially underestimated Russia's threat and focused on terrorism and the Middle East, leaving Russia feeling ignored and provoked.
31:39: 🤝 During the period of dual-track engagement between the US and Russia, there were misunderstandings and differing values between the two countries, leading to a lack of trust and cooperation.
40:07: 🇷🇺 Putin perceives Obama as a young, stupid Black man; Putin learns to work around sanctions; Putin manipulates and undermines Trump; Putin sees Trump as a wrecking ball for America and NATO.
49:01: 😣 Biden and his foreign policy team enter the White House with the understanding that no reset is possible with Putin, and their main goal is to contain Russia until Putin is no longer in power.
55:26: 🛡 Putin's motivations and miscalculations in the Ukraine conflict.
1:03:11: 😳 The speaker believes that Putin's weakness and loss of control could make him more dangerous, possibly leading to the use of nuclear weapons. There are concerns about the future of the Biden presidency and the potential for a Trump-like leader to take office. The speaker believes the Biden administration has done a good job managing the war and worries about a less resolute successor. The speaker does not think Putin would use a nuclear weapon on an empty island but on the battlefield. It is important for the American president to respond to such an action to set a precedent. There are moderates and extremists around Putin, but the speaker believes the extremists have more influence.
Recap by Tammy AI
Ok
Seeing how straight garbage the Russian military is it’s obvious the US military would beat the shit out of the Russian military. That’s why Russians are constantly spewing the words nuclear weapons out their mouths because they know that’s all they could do against the US because in a conventional war they’d get their asses handed to them in a matter of days or weeks worse case
And now seven months later we can see how stupid is everything she said and you quoted. This stupidity costs Ukraine hundreds of thousands of lives, loss of 20% of her territory and quite possibly complete loss of sea access, and Russia falling in China’s arms. Hard to be more idiotic than this.
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thank you
I have learned a lot in this interview about the current situation than i could have ever learned anywhere else. Good job Julia truly an eye opener. Real Journalism. Thank you.
Julie 📝😘
I have to admit it…I’m a huge Julia Ioffe fan. For someone to be able to talk for so long with such clarity and wisdom on a subject is amazing. Could listen to her talk for hours.
That simply means you are not a very bright individual. JL is at best a mediocre prop bimbo; granted with capacity for endless silly bloviation.
*watching* her speak is all the better
I could listen to her read the phone book...
Glad I'm not the only one. So sexy.
Totally agree! Remarkable and lucid!
Ugh, I could listen to Julia Ioffe ALL day! She’s seriously amazing on every level. Additionally, it’s so nice to see some long-form interviews being produced. Everyone is obsessed with short videos, and their attention span and concentration is suffering as a result. We need more Julia Ioffe, as well as other extended interviews with guests of Julia’s calibre.
And she is pretty too
Trump has trouble answering female journalists questions as he has in his personal life a male chauvinist
How about reading an article from Michael Maccfaul and Ben Hodges for greater brain exercise?
Putin invaded Ukraine to return back to USRR when he supposes to honor Ukraine agreement with the US and UK that he wouldn’t invade Ukraine if they gave up their nuclear and Ukraine did that.
Was Putin a narcissist psychopath? What is the benefit of analysis this psychopath over and over again?
@@david-eh1vg do not believe Putin and do not believe stalin
@@david-eh1vg this makes it a difficult position for Russians to be in when no one believes u in Canada such a president would be thrown out of government
Just discovered this woman , such a brillant lady,
Julia Ioffe is really the best. Unbelievably intelligent, knowledgeable, insightful, nuanced, eloquent, articulate, well spoken.
Lol… 25 times they mashed that like and not a man can just come out and say it. 🤣 Um… ya. She’s a babe.
Fully agreed 👍
@@WitchyWagonReal Totally. She'll push you around.
Well Ms. Julia,
yet again and still ,Your interpritation and well understood the sudalties of the Russian Culture.
No other Columnist has the sure of your self style.
You Are #1 in my book .
thanks .
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These long form interviews are always great. I hope they never stop them.
Putins animosity was laid bare, demands citizens with same sentiments, , wtf, things might hv been different, like getting into outer space before destroying Earth
Julia Loffe's understanding of Russian culture and mentality is amazing and very accurate. She is a true expert on Russia and her observations of Putin are impeccable. I haven't heard anyone describe the deeper reasons behind the current status quo, ie Ukrainian war, so well. Thank you Julia Loffe. I was born in former Czechoslovakia, father of my children is from Moscow, I speak fluent Russian and I do know well Russians ways of thinking. Julia is 100% correct. Thank you PBS for this very important interview, it should be heard World wide. I am forwarding this to everyone who may be confused about the issue. Greetings from Sydney, Australia 🌈
Completely agree. What she shares matches all of my understandings of Putin and the mentality of Russians shared with me from relatives in slavic countries in Europe.
Julia has great insight. Another fantastic commentator is Masha Gesson. Masha has given some interviews to PBS that really helped me understand Putin as much as one can.
Mmmm let’s be honest to ourselves so we can all find an off ramp..
1st of all the Americans bombed Hiroshima and then fried the Marshal islands like true psychopaths to gain insights into the effects of radiation on living people. Nobody gives two rips about America opinion, they only want to ensure the Americans no longer pose an existential threat to their people.
This conflict will end when the people of Donbas have been liberated from the torture they have had to endure which no western diplomatic has acknowledged or placed genuine interest in resolving.
This has actually been a rather ungraceful decent from complete supremacy for the Anglo-Saxons in general. And honestly having had everything stolen from me and my mother who raised us while putting herself through university and I staunchly testify to the corruption of the pigs that run the justice system and the banking sector in North America.
Prayers for a world with less hegemony and more accountability 🙏🏽
When you have the entire Western mainstream media demonizing Russia, no mainstream journalist will be foolish enough to go against the narrative
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko This situation is embarrassing and we should never let this happen again. This is by no stretch a win for anyone.
That moment when expansion meets a brick wall. Not that they didn’t realize how overstretched it all was to begin with, but only now everyone understands it.
Julia is a little piece of gold we have on our side, thank goodness for her and her invaluable insight. I could listen to her all day!
Same! She is so clear and articulate.
She has a gift for communication!
George W Bush was rigged into office when Putin became president. They skipped that one, even dumber than Obama & Trump and all souled out their souls and Americans.
@@lilyrrichard236 Dude, define an articulate liar memorizing a script without emotion.
This whole flattering comment section was orchestrated by dumbedown gaysoy bois, fer sure & ignoramuses.
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Sad how obsessed Putin is with the US when we barely think about them at all.
"May I add something else?" Class-act lady. Clearly the smartest person in the room, but polite to everyone.
Yeah, she's quite the intellect!
LMAO!!! You mean like when she got caught flat out red handed lying about Trump having the Russians rig the 2016 election? Then the same "knowledgeable" woman that went on to label anyone she disagrees with a "election denier" 😂
If she is the smartest person in the room she must be doing a interview with a special Ed class & even then I would question if she's still the smartest lmfao
Defender of Russia aggressors who put her to talk heresies to misslead Americans 😢
It sounded to me she asked permission from the puppet master. The whole thing sounded scripted to me. Just sayin.
@@ronafortnitenoobie1392 ...says the dumbest person in the room !
I love Julia Ioffe. One of the best analysts on Russia today.
Does she read and speak the language?
The most racist people are the evil slave trading Dutchjews.
@@zhoubaidinh403 She's a fluckin liar spewing propaganda of the Chosenevil, don't be fooled by the scripted interview.
@@zhoubaidinh403 yes.
@@zhoubaidinh403 she's a Russian Jew like my wife
I know she likes journalism, but she should be working for the State dept or intelligence agencies.
Edit: idiots in the comments have no idea of the core responsibilities of State and CIA. It's analysis you fools.
But if so, then the public won't get this unmatched treasure of an interview.
I know, right!
She basically is. She's a state propagandist.
She does.
ah.. perhaps she is... hmmm. This is indeed insightful
I've NEVER understood US and Russian relationships until this. Well done!
это пропаганда
I could watch her speak all day 😊
She’s beautiful and smart!
You mean…LISTEN to her talk. Correct?
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Julia is amazingly articulate and a national treasure. So nice to see her in a current interview, most TH-cam content with her is 9+ months old.
I noticed the same thing, and totally agree
Indeed!
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Agreed, though this interview was conducted Sept 28, 2022
You do realize she's spewing all the usual cheap carricaturish cartoonish garbage about Russia and Putin. Old.. boring.. Unrelated to any reality.
I love all her interviews. So knowledgeable and communicated so down to earth. I learn so much from her. Thanks PBS to make these raw interviews available
LMAO!!! Her knowledgeable? You mean like when she got caught flat out red handed lying about Trump having the Russians rig the 2016 election? Then the same "knowledgeable" woman that went on to label anyone she disagrees with a "election denier" 😂
She looks like a white version of teanna Trump
Great great interview ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Julia should be working in the USA 🇺🇸 State Department
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Very articulate and detailed analysis of Putin and his motivations. This is essential for trying to find a solution to the dreadful situation we are now all in.
It is a pity that US commentators give little analysis, specifically geopolitical long term analysis, of European potentialities and failures. In 1950, Robert Schuman, the European initiator of NATO and founder of the European Community, spoke of his grand democratic design that started with reconciliation with Germany (that hardly ever knew democracy) and much more, an economic rebirth never seen before in history.
In 1950s he saw that the Central and Eastern European Countries (CEEC) would be able to join in a revived, peaceful European Community. As for the USSR, he said in the mid-1950s that the Soviet Union would fail before the end of the century. So it did.
"We must be ready' he said, for that event.
Sure enough the countries of Eastern and Central Europe were able to join.
As for Russia and Ukraine, they joined the Council of Europe and agreed to the application of international law of the Human Rights Convention. But then Russia was continually rebuffed in the 2000s. European leaders seemed to be afraid of repeating the successful experiment for peace that turned post-Nazi Germany (the largest and most powerful power) into a loyal partner in economic development. France was joined with Italy, the Benelux and then UK, Ireland, Denmark and the CEEC. Germany became a partner not an eternal enemy.
The existing European Community in 2000s could have done the same by extending the European Communities (Coal and Steel, Euratom and the Single Customs Market) to a full European Energy Community (based on gas, petroleum and coal) under the same or similar democratising institutions that had such great results with Germany and the Soviet Bloc of the CEEC. That would have used the energy vector for peace. Instead it is now the vector for war. In fact this Energy Community extending to Russia was proposed under the Dutch Prime Minister Ruud Lubbers. But the other leaders shrugged it off.
The Biden administration seems to think that destroying the NordStream pipelines will help Biden achieve an end to war and his successful re-election, according to Seymour Hersh. Instead it exposes the level of corruption, and disillusion, not only in USA, but Ukraine and Russia too. Many officials are no regretting as this sabotage and its perpetrators are being exposed. Using NATO as an instrument of imperialistic planning is not what Schuman intended.
The European countries are following the same path of corruption or submission to US corruption and geopolitical ignorance -- and it won't lead to peace.
What is needed is geopolitical analysis and action to turn this terrible tide. The main beneficiary of this self-destruction that turns Russia as a European and Christian power into and enemy of both USA and the West is China. The Chinese Communist party are laughing all the way to achieving what they believe is their dream, world power. The Chinese people are also the dire victims of CCP manipulative autocracy.
Julia Ioffe is always worth watching. thank you!
This is the second time I've listened to a full interview with Julia Loffe on PBS. Once again i find her openly frank speaking insights into Putins` Russia enlightening and very engaging.
She is incredible.
simp
If you're born in a certain country & if you've had some good understanding of its culture, people, linguistics, norms, values, beliefs, etc., and if you're a thoughtful, educated person... you SHOULD be able to speak about that country (the good, the bad, and the ugly, which all societies have) --- even if you're no longer part of it, no longer living in it --- with more authority and with a more nuanced understanding of it than others, even if everyone speaking about it is equally well researched...
One mistake she made Was Trump administration gave Javelin missiles and sanctions , in Fact Congress did both, not Trump, He tried to hold the money back to find dirt on Hunter Biden
You do realize she's spewing all the usual cheap carricaturish cartoonish garbage about Russia and Putin. Old.. boring.. Unrelated to any reality.
Well, that's one option on the current situation. There do exist other opinions such as by John Mearsheimer, Jeffrey Sachs, The Duran, Scott Ritter, and the list goes on and on...
It's PBS, you think that they're going to interview someone who's going to tell the truth?
@@regulusmine2336 Exactly!!… No they are not .. Thank you
TH-cam is deleting replies with adverse views to this woman. Must be that the truth is hard to take.
This is another fantastic interview with Julia Loffe. Just to note, I love this unedited interview format.
The best information/interview!
I had never heard of Julia before. I'm incredibly impressed. I follow the news pretty closely, but I've never heard anyone explain so thoroughly how we got here.
Agreed, super interesting listen that puts a lot of the pieces together,will definitely be looking into her more.
and shes fuggin sexy, you hear that accent*
Careful, she is a shill......
This is not news it's neocon propaganda.
@@jmy7622 - Lets be fair, there is a lot of truth in there but for the uneducated looking for the real story, they are f'kt!!
Well I for one am very pleased Julia Loffe chose Ryssian history when all were focused elsewhere. Very informative
This interview is missing a lot of facts. And is biased against Russia. PBS is state TV. I'm an American but America has forgotten its values. People need to study more and not depend on state TV to tell them what to think.
@@afreewilling state TV that criticises the presidents? It's probably biased against Russia because Russia, well putin, has acted like a scumbag. How many untrained Russian will get battered fighting for his ego in a war they can't win?!
@@afreewilling name some of the missing facts and provide your sources then.
If you prove to me that Gorge Bush is a "born-again Christian" like she said, then I'll go Sir.
@@afreewilling ffs 🙄 you made the claim. Back it up
What a great interview and expert to listen to. To be able to zoom out to the geo-political aspects when necessary, or zoom in tight on the origin story and motivations of an undersized street kid. Just. Wow. Compelling, educative, sobering.
You can concentrate I was just imagining what she look like naked😂
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Haha she just bashes republicans
And
Praises democrats. The fact she said Biden brought in the best of the best if so stupid
Ваши оскорбления в адрес Путина, говорят о том, что вы зависливый не состоявшийся в жизни неудачник!
Stunning intellect and insight. Outstanding interview! Brilliant series overall!
Spare me. If she was 70 years old, im sure you would have a different reaction.
My first time hearing this woman, Julia Ioffe speak. Amazing, very articulate, informed and intelligent which made this such a pleasure to watch. Not seen an interview like this in a very long time, Thank You Julia!
watch her previous interviews, they're even better
GOOD LUCK TO YOU IT'S ALL PROPAGANDA
@@mindpower1933 the caps will not strengthen your BS, try harder, St Petersburg troll
@@mindpower1933 everything is propaganda, even the truth. We just need to learn using intelligence and research to find our own belief. Sadly some find the first thing they see as truth.
Prigozhin employees. Working hard for that worthless rubble, I mean ruble...
I wonder if people in iraq, afghanistan, syria, somalia, palestine, or even vietnam or cambodia have watched this interview?
I’m Vietnamese watching here. And it’s very informative video about Putin mindset.
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In Russia they like to forget that the democratic side of Vietnam invited the USA to fight with them and pretend that the USA illegally invaded innocent people that where not fighting at all.
Same with all the other countries he mentioned. Its actually fascinating how Russia doesn't acknowledge others history, they just create a anti USA Russian version of history.
Most Russians I have talked to didn't even know that the Vietnam war was between North and South Vietnam. They think it was USA vs Vietnam
@@tranvinhnhat1289 this is 100% spot on
So your point is Americans are (whatever your implication) because of (whatever your implications) so she is obviously (whatever your implication). Deep stuff there, hater of the US.
Boring .....
Very insightful. Great interview...
Great thoughts and content from Loffe, again.
PBS: once more your interviewer's mic clarity (and gain) is so distorted, whilst Loffe is clear as a bell.
*Ioffe - her name is Ioffe. Content is free too
Before I begin the video, "The last time we talked to you (Julia), you were 100% right about everything years ago concerning Putin and Russia." Does she have a crystal ball or what? Go back and watch the old videos. It's crazy good.
I don't ever re-watch interviews on foreign policy issues but I re-watched those old Ioffe interviews, several times. She. Is. Fantastic.
@@fs5775 Exactly! I'm the same way but she was just spot on. In fact, in the comments people were like "How is this from 3-4 years ago?" or whenever it was. I have her name on alert on my news app but unfortunately I don't see much pop up. I would also recommend Dr Alina Polyakova if you have a moment. She talks to Dr Ian Bremmer of Gzero. I'd love to see a panel discussion with Julia Loffe and Alina Polyakova!!
💯% agree!
I watched the interview for 9 minutes. Julia talks about "tough politics." After the collapse of the USSR, Russia began a soft policy. As a result, state secret documents were disclosed, which are still used and paraphrased by opponents. As the Country of Russia weakened greatly, the economy was destroyed. It was only 20 years ago. As a result, Russia was dictated how it should lead the country. After the words of Julia that Gorbachev never said that NATO would not expand. In order not to forget the thought, I immediately had to spend 3 hours and re-read his book: "the reunification of Germany." In chapter 2, he clearly writes that the conflict still arose when Germany was reunited and it had to decide which military bloc it would enter. There was still a proposal from the USSR to maintain neutrality. Bush Sr. was against it. As a result, Germany entered NATO, and Baker promised Gorbachev (quote): there will be no expansion of NATO jurisdiction and military presence by an inch eastward. " All steps to resolve this are spelled out in the 2 + 4 agreement. People, check the facts! Yes, it takes time. Julia is smart, but thanks to this, many use it. I know when they tell the truth 70%, add 30% from themselves and the further, the more unverified information is added. I will look further, so do not judge yet.
How could Bush sr. Decide what sovereign country do?
Julia is pure manipulator. She cherry picks some truth and adds massive lies, so for people who have no time to fact check, she sounds “knowledgeable”, when in reality she is a manipulative propagandist.
Way before the collapse of Soviet Union its economy was barely alive. USSR collapsed with its ''plan economy'' that simply didn't work. It happened more than 30 yrs ago. 90s were hungry and criminal times in which politicians who were never prepared or educated for it attempted to build new economic system + 2 wars in Chechnya. Putin came at a very convenient time when all the shocking economic reforms were basically completed and oil prices skyrocketed giving Kremlin whole another lvl of budget. There goes 6 yrs of economic raise. When the country becomes stagnant and Putin gets challenged by several political figures, he starts to talk abt ''stability'' and claims all the achievements to himself..
2005- the end of Orange revolution in Ukraine when Putin fails to push through Yanukovich whom he controls. He gets a grudge over Ukraine and a preview of corruptive government being overturned.
Scared of losing his power he takes steps towards rebuilding political system into personal autocracy. Here in 2007 he starts his NATO narrative steering public focus off of internal problems. It becomes a perfect answer to any questions and criticism.
-''Where does the enormous budget go while half of our schools have no bathrooms?'
-''It goes for army to defend us from NATO''
-''Why do we need you if you don' t develop the country''
-''I defend it from NATO''
2008- Putin changes constitution for the first time t allow him to rule for more that 2 terms. From 2008 to 2012 Putin gets himself a throne-keeper, Medvedev. He steps down as a Prime-Minister, but everyone knows who gets the final word. Though Medvedev manages to get out a few liberal reforms. During Medvedev's presidency Navalniy is allowed to run for a mayor of Moscow. He comes second and becomes the most prominent oppositioner.
2011- first mass protests in reaction to widespread falsifications at elections for Duma.
2012 Putin comes back as a president, no oppositioners were given a chance to run for presidency, including Navalniy. May 2012 -''March of Millions'' on Bolotnaya brutally quashed. Here Kremlin starts to talk abt ''Western puppet masters'' leading protests in Russia.
Socail contempt and economic issues continue despite Kremlin propoganda machine.
2014- Putin annexes Crimea with no resistance or blood. Quick, beautiful victory giving him social approval to continue ruling.
2015 - Putin kills Nemtsov, a politician who's unlike Navalniy had experience in Russian government and wider social support.
2018- Presidential elections, unfair, highly falsified. However, the Crimea consensus is still strong enough for the majority of population to not to condemn his rule.
2020- Putin changes the constitution again, annulling his previous terms, allowing him to rule till his death.
2022- ''Special Military Operation'', aka Putin's election campaign for 2024. He expected to take over Ukraine in 3 days. Economic effect of sanctions and possible isolation would be settled and socially excepted by 20204 and he would enter his new era as a glorious collector of Russian lands. Besides it's much easier to rule a poor, scared and isolated country.
You focus too much on what Putin says instead of what he does.
@restonica Yes, I am Russian.
Any idea on how Russian propoganda talks abt Turkey being Russia's best friend fighting against the USA while never mentioning Turkey being a part of NATO?
@restonica NATO is a seductive oversimplified answer to current events substituting a lack of knowledge abt complex historical, economic, social and political processes in Russia simultaneously feeding into your sweet-sweet desire of American presidents being bigger than they could ever be/ conspiracy theories
Very courages of Julia knowing who she is talking about.🙏🙏🙏Awesome, God blesses you
There is an error in this lady's assertion that no promise regarding NATO expansion eastward was asked or made; However, I have PDF copy of a document obtained from the State Department under FOIA request in a federal court, that clearly states such a promise was made by US, and was signed by James Baker, Secretary of State back in those days.
She is attractive and wrong. Hypnotically and casually ignorant.
Stop spreading russian fakes and propaganda. There was no such promise. Besides who is Russia to decide about other country's pact choices? Cheap gas station has nothing to say. USSR is gone. Eastern Europeans are not soviet backyard anymore. We are done with Putin's excuses. Putin simply wants Ukraine.
Oh yea. All wrong. Just all wrong. It's really all the Ukrainians fault cause, well, they are not doing what Putin wants. They really need to listen to Putin. He knows what is happening with the USA. Putin is still talking with Trump. After all.
There is a NYT article that explains all of this.
Gorbachev himself said NATO expansion was not a topic.
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There is nothing so compelling as watching Julia's profound understanding of Soviet ways, being imparted with passion for the people and heartfelt disgust for Putin.
America let's stay true to our values, we are a unique country that learned how to live amongst our diversity and thats what makes us stronger. We should keep doing the right thing- supporting democracy and freedom and offer our best intentions in diplomacy. Walk softly but carry a big stick.
RAH
you sound like a clown representing the most waring nation of the last 100 years
I am on the edge of my seat for every interview with Julia. She is the most knowledgable and cogent person to address this issue in the United States. Thank you so much Julia for all that you do!
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All I hear in this interview is a woman who is not listening and is either so brainwashed or so ignorant of history she has no idea what she is talking about. Ignorant of the Cuba Crisis event when Russia was going to put missiles in America's neighbouring country Cuba like NATO is now trying to do in Russia's neighbouring country Ukraine and what America thought of this, ignorant of agreements made after world war 2, ignorant of Russia's history of supporting countries that are fighting their colonisers, ignorant of the world map and whose arms and missiles were getting closer and closer to whose boarder before this conflict happened, ignorant of who was responsible for the illegal over throw of an elected government in Ukraine and so the civil war that ensued in Ukraine if you can call it that because one side who supported the toppled democratically elected leader was almost defenceless civilians while the other which was the Ukraine government bombed it and riddled it with mines, just ignorance, ignorance, ignorance in everything she says on this topic. It is so amazing she can have such ignorance when all the information is out there and even a twelve year old could find it. Peace and love
@@richardmoonstone52 Yes Richard, I think that "ignorance" is the working word here. But I think the point about Putin being a "communications expert" is valid?
7 months later has become clear who was lying and it wasn’t Putin
❤God Bless you for your insight and expertise.
At the beginning of the war I thought the Russians were wrong about this but as it goes on I'm beginning to think that Putin's analysis of the situation is right. America is out for regime change in Russia at the very least and we're willing to let Ukraine, at a minimum, die in the attempt. We've been trying to do it in other places and it keeps not working but it seems to be our first choice when we're confronted with nationalism instead of globalism.
When it doesn't work with Russia either and we get tired of supporting the people we say we'll support "for as long as it takes" (translation: as long as it doesn't take too long) and we still have Putin or somebody even worse in power in Russia and they still have nuclear weapons, what are we going to do? I think that's the key question and nobody seems to be talking about it.
46:24 "To us, he looks like a wrecking ball, _OUR_ wrecking ball. They saw Trump as destroying the edifice of America and NATO from the inside, without Russia having to do a whole lot themselves, without Russia having to lift much of a finger."
Anybody who is a critical thinker could see how Trump was being manipulated but the people drinking the Magna Kool-Aid just couldn't see it and frankly some still don't. even after January 6th I mean Trump and his associates should have been locked up a long time ago they are the danger to your democracy and I don't mean the Republican party as a whole . They just got to get the wack-jobs out of that party👍😎🇨🇦
Too bad Republicans don’t watch PBS.
I saw President Trump as Russian wrecking ball from my seat in the United States too. The Russian rot now embedded in certain circles of the Q wing of the Republican party has me frustrated with the Party.
Mainstream Republicans need to reclaim their party, frankly, for the sake of the world.
What I can't still believe is that half the country still can't see how traitorous Trump actually was, and these mindless republicans are still protecting him.
If American democracy is going to be at risk on a coin flip every four years, I don't see how America's going to survive the next decade.
The whole of the Republican Party should be audited to see where their money comes from. When you see Tucker Carlson telling the stupid or gullible side of America to support Putin, he should be seen as Lord Haw Haw. If America was actually at war with Russia he’d be charged with treason. I’ll also include my own country in this UK, Londinagrad is real, and would love that to be re-opened. Boris may be lauding and supporting Ukraine now but he was responsible for the infiltration of Russian oligarchs and their money. He was compromised somehow then and knows he was duped. He awarded one of their sons a Lordship and what exactly did that cost us and pay him? Let’s hope we all rally together and demand investigations into Russian corruption in Western style. countries. Their facade of having evolved had been revealed, let’s not be duped again.
What a treasure to have thoughtful, unhurried questions being answered in such a cogent and articulate manner. This is greatly appreciated. From Japan
Couldn't agree more
@@marshuswp3325 The NPR/PBS type is a parrot manipulated by presentation alone.
Agree😊
no it's not, BOT!!!
Nobody wins in a war
Earlier I was captivated with her approach to subjects.
More interviews with Ioffe please!
Got Putin dissected , this gotta be stuck in every Russian ear, is there anybody out there,
So well informed and articulate, I could listen to this lady for hours. 5 stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
All I hear in this interview is a woman who is not listening and is either so brainwashed or so ignorant of history she has no idea what she is talking about. Ignorant of the Cuba Crisis event when Russia was going to put missiles in America's neighbouring country Cuba like NATO is now trying to do in Russia's neighbouring country Ukraine and what America thought of this, ignorant of agreements made after world war 2, ignorant of Russia's history of supporting countries that are fighting their colonisers, ignorant of the world map and whose arms and missiles were getting closer and closer to whose boarder before this conflict happened, ignorant of who was responsible for the illegal over throw of an elected government in Ukraine and so the civil war that ensued in Ukraine if you can call it that because one side who supported the toppled democratically elected leader was almost defenceless civilians while the other which was the Ukraine government bombed it and riddled it with mines, just ignorance, ignorance, ignorance in everything she says on this topic. It is so amazing she can have such ignorance when all the information is out there and even a twelve year old could find it. Peace and love
Same
And, even if I were deaf, I could look at this lady for hours.
Then you're a willing dupe.
This was a great interview!
Thanks for the suggestion Jake!
2nd interview of her I have watched recently. The other one is on amanpour and company. Well worth watching.
Reinforces my belief that Putin going is the only way this ends
She frightened me to death
she is right up there with the other long time experts of us/russia.. certainly better than Bolton. lol.. you are pretty astute yourself jake broe.. been watching your vids every day. take care. also, thank for your continued service!
What a great interview 👏 🙌 👌
And all my years on Earth I have never seen or been so interested in a news interview. that was worthy of the people's ears. Young lady, you are incredible you are going to the right places. you are very intelligent Putin must know the United States is getting ready for him because he's never been this public about his life. or his strategies.👏🏿👏🏾👏🏻👏🏽👏👍🏼👌👍👍🏿👍🏾❤️❤️❤️🎯🎯🎯 I don't care what anybody thinks about Putin. we all have to admit he's one hell of an intelligent man.
Man, I wish this interview was like 10 hours long.
She is so brilliant. I hope they do one for Masha Ghessen also. Utterly top notch women.
There are one or two interviews with Masha on this channel which I found really informative. I hope they do another interview soon.
She is a good trockists and jewish commie. RThere never was a Ukraine as a country.
So many facts, circumstances and important background is left out of what she said. It's a pity. She should read Zbigniew Brzeziński "The Grand Chessboard", maybe then she better understands what's going on in Ukraine and why. The US always wanted to pull Russia in a war with Ukraine. It started with Maidan 2014 and will not end until US decides it to end.
@@MegaNoster Another Ruzzie BUTT. 🤦♂️😒
Thank you, Julia, for all your research and concise presentation of these current events; tragic as they are. Journalism at its best! We really are grateful for you!
All I hear in this interview is a woman who is not listening and is either so brainwashed or so ignorant of history she has no idea what she is talking about. Ignorant of the Cuba Crisis event when Russia was going to put missiles in America's neighbouring country Cuba like NATO is now trying to do in Russia's neighbouring country Ukraine and what America thought of this, ignorant of agreements made after world war 2, ignorant of Russia's history of supporting countries that are fighting their colonisers, ignorant of the world map and whose arms and missiles were getting closer and closer to whose boarder before this conflict happened, ignorant of who was responsible for the illegal over throw of an elected government in Ukraine and so the civil war that ensued in Ukraine if you can call it that because one side who supported the toppled democratically elected leader was almost defenceless civilians while the other which was the Ukraine government bombed it and riddled it with mines, just ignorance, ignorance, ignorance in everything she says on this topic. It is so amazing she can have such ignorance when all the information is out there and even a twelve year old could find it. Peace and love
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ seems to have worked out for all those orthodox Christians in Ukraine and Russia.....
She is truly insightful
lol she's a propagandist
@darko none clearly you don't understand what that word means....protagonist
Fantastic interview!
Very good interview...refreshing to see Julia to be so knowledgeable and understand geo-politics and Putins mind so well.
She's a propaganda specialist . She's lying.
😂
The way she says" he is.." "he was"..."he thought... doesn't mean at all she is aware of what he does, thinks and considers. Even ppl in Russia don't, so why would she particulary, know ? There are simply several russian journalists, who never saw him in person, who spread equal information in russian , but they do not back it with some proofs. Please note that each country supports its propaganda to justify their policy. With this war, I even start thinking i will stop get interested by politics. Any idiot could start a war and bunch of other idiots would justify why they can also start a war, and then they change ppls lives without asking. What is the use of trusting politicians and spending time of our lives in news if they will do stupid things anyway...
ahahah. It was really funny.
@@SmeWnulya
Kremlin butcher : so much Russian blood on his dirty hands...🤢
I am skeptical. Is it me or does Julia’s responses seem too complete for each question? Let’s get her in front of Peter Robinson at the Hoover institution…(maybe a debate with Stephen Kotkin) her flag waving for the Biden admin made me pause !!
You should be skeptical of anyone trying to justify leading us on the path to ww3. More people need to be skeptical. We need to ask if our current president is even lucid and competent and if he has enriched himself w Ukrainian bribes. They are blowing past every exit ramp on the way to ww3. We can't beat a 3rd world country like Afghanistan and want to poke at a nuclear superpower.
The amount of blinking she does before giving an answer is a dead giveaway she prepares a neat little propaganda lie. Anytime anyone says war will be over quickly is an absolute liar. Unfortunately there have not been enough skeptics for every major war to push back and get real timelines. "Over by Christmas " is now the new 2 years a whole year into this conflict.
Wow! Learned more in this one interview than I have learned reading and watching the news and trust me me, I watch a lot of domestic and international news and I am deeply interested in foreign affairs! She’s absolutely good, compelling and articulate. Very knowledgeable too!
Why would you expect to learn anything meaningful by watching the news?
@paula... If you appreciate her as an interviewee, go back and search for the earlier Frontline interviews from about 4 to 5 years ago, where she lays everything out in very intricate and understandable detail leading up to this interview.
@@peterrose5373 why not? I am smart enough to make my own judgement when I watch the news, I don’t watch the news to be an ideologue but to be aware of current events! Don’t know where you are going with your question.
@@peterrose5373 sounds like you dont trust your own bullshit detector enough.
An Amazing 👏 comeback I ❤️
Would love to see full program of her with Amy Goodman.
Amazing insight.. That you Frontline and Julia.
Julie Amazing 📝🏫😘
Awesome, it is not a proper PBS documentary without Ioffe.
😂👍🤣..Does PBS stand for Peerless Bull Shit?🤔?
Embarrassing admission as these chosen talking heads launder journalism as 3rd party opinion.
Wish more Americans turned off Fox and Watched PBS. Anybody who watches Fox continually is as much a zombie as a Russian who watches their State TV and lately they don’t even have choice in their media. Ban Tucker and Co!
@@whoseturnisit9733 As much as I disagree with their opinions or, even worse, their lack of veracity, it is important not to ban voices in a democracy. It is both against the principles of a democracy and is counterproductive. Covering our eyes and ears to other voices in the citizenry does not make them go away; instead, it makes followers of those arguments more intransigent. While journalistic decline is a multifaceted problem with many causes both international and domestic, it is good to see PBS Frontline continuing to make good journalistic contributions to public discourse by utilizing experts in various fields.
@@tien7742 No.
What a great analytical mind and storyteller. 👏
Telling stories other people paid her to say. Notice the disproprotionately small & narrow nose compared to her wide face, that is a surgeon"s work but overdone She wasn't born with that tiny nose like Natalie Portman.
She said Putin thought. Obama was just a dumb black man the long and the short of it. You know she's a straight shooter . Too many people walk around on eggshells and don't speak frankly I appreciate that👍😎🇨🇦
Fictional storyteller.
@@crhu319 again you people with your one-word responses no critical thinking just dumb responses you're obviously not a thinker go back to reading your comic books👍😎🇨🇦
@@crhu319 hear hear
Such a pleasure to see her mind understanding and explaining such a complex and dynamic topic.
Wow. Great interview and guest
The level of insight this Lady has into Russia is mesmerizing!
She's a puppet
here is a big difference in studding Russia in US, and to live there and experience what Russians being thru after the collapse if the Soviet Union , Julia you have no idea what you are talking about ...85 % Russians believe that Putin saved Russia from its collapse and created the middle class.
Lmao no it's not 😂😂😂
@@colinturney8046 ofc she is yeah... its all a conspiracy in the western world... *begins folding tinfoil"...
Is this woman mental? Top EU Politicians including Zelensky have said the Minsk accords were BS and just playing for time, 9 years Ukraine has bombed civilians. Borris was sent to make sure there was no chance for peace and she thinks Putin could sue for peace LMAO who believes this crap imbeciles?
These full length interviews are the best. I just wish they were added to the podcast feed(and the podcast feed was kept up-to-date).
This is straight up Pentagon propaganda. She is literally reading off a script. Its 80% lies
@@mcnally211 Are you afraid?
Rules based world order my foot
What a fortune teller this woman is!
Yes, especially its good that we can't hear the other side's perspective, since it was censored. USA should have one sided court system too.
Always a like before watching Julia. She is so sharp and so articulate, never fails to impress.
Is she not reading a Teleprompt? I have to agree, if not, she is very much articulate.
@@ltipst2962She is not reading a teleprompter. She is a real-time thinker and speaker. An incredibly valuable resource.
I've been waiting for the full interview release. Love it!!!
Where one can find the full interview release?
Julia is wrong on a major point in this interview, Putin right.
NATIONAL SECURITY ARCHIVES
NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard
Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner.
As Ukrainian I can tell that this is really good interview and spot on analysis on russia and pootin.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
What do you think of this article?;
Once KGB Agent, Always a KGB Agent
BY NINA KHRUSHCHEVA
NPC
As a male I can tell you that she's hot.
@@Jonathanbloom100 What's so funny troll?
Slava Ukraine. I hope you and your loved ones stay safe until this is all over.
Wow full of insight, i am so blown away. Comprehensive and full of knowledge. Thank u for this
If I ever run for president.
She will be my advisor.
She is brilliant!
Every time Julia speaks, it's an intellectual feast!! Great talk, thank you!!!
Except she’s inaccurate saying They (Russians )weren’t giving verbal assurance that’s we all read at library of congress 😂 Nato wouldn’t go one inch ….she lost several points there ..peace
She is a liar and always presenting putin's view real well
@@Johnfo4m Yep she is absolutely lying about that promise not being made!
@@silencingdissent no you are just gullible enough to believe what Russian propaganda tells you 🤡
Amazing!
Best reporting in the USA right now. Thank you Frontline and PBS.
Wow, all the sentences I have been hearing over and over for a year. Thnkx.
Excellent talk 👍 thank you.
Julia Ioffe is really the best. Unbelievably intelligent, knowledgeable, insightful, nuanced, eloquent, articulate, well spoken. Absolutely brilliant!
keep it holstered. lol.
She’s Perfect
Shes smart.
She's too pretty to be so smart
She gives a good name to journalism. Intelligent and insightful!
Another excellent Julia Ioffe video! Thank you for making this video available to the general public.
All I hear in this interview is a woman who is not listening and is either so brainwashed or so ignorant of history she has no idea what she is talking about. Ignorant of the Cuba Crisis event when Russia was going to put missiles in America's neighbouring country Cuba like NATO is now trying to do in Russia's neighbouring country Ukraine and what America thought of this, ignorant of agreements made after world war 2, ignorant of Russia's history of supporting countries that are fighting their colonisers, ignorant of the world map and whose arms and missiles were getting closer and closer to whose boarder before this conflict happened, ignorant of who was responsible for the illegal over throw of an elected government in Ukraine and so the civil war that ensued in Ukraine if you can call it that because one side who supported the toppled democratically elected leader was almost defenceless civilians while the other which was the Ukraine government bombed it and riddled it with mines, just ignorance, ignorance, ignorance in everything she says on this topic. It is so amazing she can have such ignorance when all the information is out there and even a twelve year old could find it. Peace and love
pity it's mostly a lie
@Paparazzi Jane for the first 30 minutes, she's practically no liar, but then...
@@AntonSobyanin ...she rips off!
It's called acquiring ethos in rhetoric.
@@AntonSobyanin No. In the first minute she straw-mans Russia. I didn't listen beyond that.
She has 4.4 million views because she knows her shit! Julia is a brilliant journalist. If there's one person who has taught me how we got here in such an eloquent and informed way it's Ioffe. 👏👏👏
Her analysis is right on.
If I were President, I would have Julia as my Ambassador to Russia, or at least a Prime Advisor about Russia. She is amazing!
She was born in Russia.
No she would be pushed out the window, keep her here.
Hope Trump will be our President 2024 so he can ask her 🙏🙏
@@agimezei wow, the Kool-aid must be strong, you can't wrap your head around how he must perceive her assessment of him being a dumb and weak man who can so easily be played by flattery and the like
@@agimezei good joke😂😂😂
By far this is the most intelligent and coherent analysis on Russia in the public space. Thank you Ms. Loffe for your sharp insights, and for Frontline continuing to interview this expert as the Russia problem continues.
Ms. Ioffe...
All I hear in this interview is a woman who is not listening and is either so brainwashed or so ignorant of history she has no idea what she is talking about. Ignorant of the Cuba Crisis event when Russia was going to put missiles in America's neighbouring country Cuba like NATO is now trying to do in Russia's neighbouring country Ukraine and what America thought of this, ignorant of agreements made after world war 2, ignorant of Russia's history of supporting countries that are fighting their colonisers, ignorant of the world map and whose arms and missiles were getting closer and closer to whose boarder before this conflict happened, ignorant of who was responsible for the illegal over throw of an elected government in Ukraine and so the civil war that ensued in Ukraine if you can call it that because one side who supported the toppled democratically elected leader was almost defenceless civilians while the other which was the Ukraine government bombed it and riddled it with mines, just ignorance, ignorance, ignorance in everything she says on this topic. It is so amazing she can have such ignorance when all the information is out there and even a twelve year old could find it. Peace and love
Putin doesn't want Ucrania as this lady says, P is realistic, he never could control that whole country in hands, nor even so. For him the war has to finish now, but if continues, like the Western wants, he will take more as buffer zone and that is happening now. If it becomes worse because of the Western, then yes, P logically will try to neutralise the whole Ucraine (Western guiltiness). The main players for escalation are USA, Poland and the Baltics. Why they don't propose to use Poland or the baltics to continue the war then? It would be better because they warmongers are destroying Ucraine now with their rusofobic war-lust. It would be good to move the war to Poland and leave in peace Ucraine if it was possible.
Some Russian individuals living in Western countries are boot-lickers, are ashamed of mother land, because of the bad propaganda against Russia, they just follow the riverstream as dead fishes.
Fake news 🤣
is it a russia problem or a CIA problem?
“There’s this unmistakable stench of weakness about him.” Wow. What a brilliant analysis.
You mean Biden absolutely, don't see any of that in President Putin.
@@humblewolffx8302no he means Putin my Russian bot
Wow! That was amazing and insightful! Thank you!
It's rare to hear someone go into the history and motivations of both Russia and the US in the context of the war in Ukraine so aptly. And the analysis of Putin's frame of mind in the years running up to it all sounds very reasonable. Big respect! Very interesting vid.
However she's wrong in so many areas, this is what you get from pbs
@@TrentGustusNot saying she is 100% historically accurate, but what aspects of her statements were outright wrong? Much of her statements are fairly perspective-based on Putin's likely mindset in the decades and years leading up to 2014 and 2022 Ukraine invasions, including how he saw the US and the collective West as well as prior Soviet and Russian leaders. Outside of the perspective discussion, much of her historical conversation is fairly accurate overall.
@@matthewwinter1340 her understanding of the perception of Gorbachev and kruchrev is wrong even by Russian people, and her explanation of the west's role and nato is absolutely incorrect as well. These talking points in the west are merely propaganda for us in the west for us to approve of the absolute lies politicians give us to excuse themselves of the war and they've perpetrated on us in the west. This PBS is merely more of those propaganda talking points for us.
@@matthewwinter1340 if you knew anything about what happened in Ukraine in 2014 , the us spent 5 million to overthrow the government there. It's not putin invading at all. Then Biden and a few other politicians get their family members in on large corporations to steal money. These are not humanitarian crisis as the lying media suggests, but clearly conflicts created to make profits for big business and politicians
@@matthewwinter1340 and if you understood better what Gorbachev did, you'd know that he sold out much of Russias wealth to the west. I'd have to write a book here to explain it,
I could listen to Julia all day. She is so measured in her responses, she never over-reaches or claims to know things she doesn’t.
Me too!
We all love her until she brings in her own personal political views.
@@Dive-Bar-Casanova Speak for yourself.
@Kaci come on articulate, not a link, grown up words
@Kaci Your reply belies your lie.
Although thank you for alerting everyone that all you have to express is bluster.
We need to be showing this type of content and classes all across America
Great interview, very upfront and honest in my eyes.
Bcz ur eyes r blind
Julia Ioffe never disappoints me.
Her interviews and some interesting documentaries on TH-cam are the only videos that I watch completely and in one go.
BTW: I like her sweater.....fits her perfectly.
She has a good jaw line
I'm sure her mind reading analysis appeals to women, but it is geopolitical garbage. The simpery in this comment section is telling of the true lack of intellectual rigor of those who take this content seriously.
@@sanriosonderweg, feel free to point out something that she said and show how it is not true.
@@jimwheeler6094 the thing was registered during a campaign of Prigozhin's trolls to diss Navalny's team's complaints about poisoning. The channel is empty. They come in droves with similar names and spam to dissuade you from regarding this information. 146% troll
(hey from Russia btw, 146% is a 2012 local 'elections' meme)
good sweater - fits with her propaganda
hands down the best interview I've seen in 12 months of this war. The puzzle pieces all fit. And really sheds light on US politics and how they have led to this point across both blue and red administrations. And that Biden for all the haters is what we need to steer this ship at this pivotal moment even if they were reluctant and frustrated at first. They have stepped up on a level for the history books.
Yes Biden who left 80 billion in equipment in Afghanistan that could've went to Ukraine. Giving them drips of equipment👍
Thank you 💕 every much for your news
Awesome interview 👏!
Being this fluid when talking about complex subjects (e.g. history) usually requires a teleprompter! Quite a specialized brain, Julia has!
Teleprompter.... or an encyclopaedic knowledge and comprehensive understanding of the subject .
Yes Remi Stardust. There are actually subject matter experts in our world who really know what they are talking about. You don't find them anymore in the (R) party, but they exist, thank goodness, to help President Biden actually govern.
She's very well rehearsed, and that's not meant in a negative way at all. I've listened to a few interviews with Julia now, so some of the content is familiar. Her take on the current situation is very interesting but also alarming.
You must be kidding? She's spewing all the usual cheap carricaturish cartoonish garbage about Russia and Putin. Old.. boring..
@@polly6336 Nicely packaged presentation .. completely missing content.
She's straight out of ClA central casting.
She must hurt you feelings talking about trump huh?
We’d be better off if she was a CIA analyst.
just cannot believe how informative this is. I'm just so glad that I decided to hear her out
Must be very hard for her to be part of two such different worlds. I´m from central Europe and this interview brought to me in full strength how my culture is "half-way". We´re very different from Russians and very different from Americans - and yet, we understand Russians a bit and Americans a bit... Globalization or not, we people are still children of our very specific cultures.
I feel the same! I grew up in the Baltics, moved to the West in my teens. With Ukraine, Belarus earlier and the leadup I have just been processing how interesting it is to be in this middle and how it makes me interpret the events differently. Best wishes :)
I think Julia is a amazing beautiful woman and a person who is absolutely valuable to this country, it's always comforting to see her and i love to watch and listen to the way she presents her speeches, keep up the good work Julia you definitely have a lifelong fan, ❤️
What does her beauty have to do with anything? She would probably find it really annoying that you think that needs to be the first thing pointed out about her as a professional.
@@stockdrifta what if they said “she speaks beautifully” 🤭
@@stockdrifta Agreed.
@@stockdrifta
It's okay to notice that she's pretty. There's a lot of pretty in the world, but only Julia Ioffe has the detailed knowledge and ideas that she expresses.
I didn’t think you were talking about her looks actually. I thought you meant as an overall beautiful woman. Did I read that incorrectly? 🌹
Wow - she's the full package and such a light in a dark place in Ukraine. I wish politicians were more like Julia.
She was born in Russia.
Look up her 2 other Frontline interviews.
Yeah, she's a package alright.. nothing inside.
Good luck with that.
This war would not exist if the US had stayed away from Ukraine and not prosecuted this war.
She's dead egg'd obsession with the man she will never have.
Really incredible dialog, Her analysis is right on.
Fantastic overview!
Outstanding!💫I should have known FRONTLINE would add more; and, these Interviews are the perfect vehicle to fill in the gaps. Bravo!!
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Julia is wrong on a major point in this interview, Putin right.
NATIONAL SECURITY ARCHIVES
NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard:
Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner.
Dame that crazy B JULIA LOFFE is lying big time, and unfortunately too many dumb American believe her lies and propagandize and brainwashed hahahaha lol 😂😂😂👍👍👍🖕🖕🖕😈😈😈🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺!!!!
@@dannytadashi4235
🎶Oh Danny Boy,🎶 she's brilliant and you're not!
All those FLAGS won't help your sorry a*s win.
SLAVA UKRAINI!🇺🇦
HEROYAM SLAVA!!🇺🇦