4:58 - yeah. My Jervenbag Extreme was pretty bulky. Was one of my regret purchases because its apparent the bag is more for skiers with pulks, mushers with dog sleds or snowmobile patrol units. Literally impossible to put inside or outside any kind of winter-hiking backpack.
1:20 - my biggest problem with synthetic is they only last five years before losing their loft. But you will end up owning both synthetic and down if you do any kind of winter camping because the synthetic will wick moisture away from the down which prevents the down from freezing
I do quite a bit of winter and cold weather camping, so synthetics are a must sometimes. I am interested to see how the Nikwax treated down performs as well!
Hydrophobic down is regular down treated with a water-repellent coating, making it more resistant to moisture. This helps it maintain better loft and insulation when exposed to damp conditions, compared to untreated down, which tends to clump and lose warmth. While it’s not fully waterproof, hydrophobic down can enhance performance in wet environments.
2:26 - even vegans are kind of divided about down though. Like a lot of the environmentally-minded vegans are aware production of synthetic fills relies on destruction of wetlands (especially with Fort MucMurray oilsands), whereas you can get down jackets and sleeping bags second-hand from a garage sales
I do wish companies stop selling 600-fill down. They perform the same as synthetic and the meat-ducks don't have great lives compared to 900-fill geese that are not used in meat production. If we're going to have a conversation about utility of agricultural byproducts, I much rather have that go into pet foods considering the enormous environmental footprints of "human-grade" pet foods with no clinical evidence the ingredients make a difference in the health of our pets
If you want, I can forward an article about Finnish dog food production where they are having this massive issue where pet parents are demanding "human-grade" ingredients in dog food, yet at the same time fur-farms are being shut down and people don't want to scale back commercial livestock agriculture. Historically unwanted parts were used in pet food production, but then the byproducts got shifted to food for minks, foxes and raccoon-dogs when the paleo diet and gluten-free diet became a fad amongst health-conscious people and trickled down to pet parents.
Sorry for being weirdly nerdy about how 600-fill down from the meat-duck industry, which are not useful to anyone, spilling over into the outdoor industry. Companies get to sound "fancy" selling down jackets and down sleeping bags, while selling a product which is inferior to synthetic fill. It's wild.
@@ZaryaTheLaika Wow! That's fascinating. We just did an episode on the podcast about the creation of the Responsible Down Standard, so this is definitely of interest to me. I'd love to learn more about the dog food topic. I make my dog's food sometimes, but typically feed them Farmina as well. I know that dog food is creating a lot of issues across the world right now with how much meat it is using. Feel free to send me the article! I'm not sure if you can leave links in the comments but you can also email me on our website if that's easier.
I used to be SUPER opposed to down and wool as a vegan, but I have also kind of changed my tune. I use some down and wool materials now, especially with secondhand and recycled-down options. Sometimes, it is more about which material actually minimizes harm.
Super useful video. I'm a vegetarian so I will opt for a synthetic sleeping bag or quilt. I also plan on 95% car camping in temps only around 40-70 at night. Thanks for the insight!
Best video on the topic that I could find - thank you! Very succinct, and great visuals too. Subbed.
Wow! Thank you so much! I'm glad you found the information useful.
This was so helpful, thank you!
so glad you found it helpful!!
4:58 - yeah. My Jervenbag Extreme was pretty bulky. Was one of my regret purchases because its apparent the bag is more for skiers with pulks, mushers with dog sleds or snowmobile patrol units. Literally impossible to put inside or outside any kind of winter-hiking backpack.
Thanks for the comparisons which is great to see side by side
I am SO glad you found it helpful!
1:20 - my biggest problem with synthetic is they only last five years before losing their loft.
But you will end up owning both synthetic and down if you do any kind of winter camping because the synthetic will wick moisture away from the down which prevents the down from freezing
I do quite a bit of winter and cold weather camping, so synthetics are a must sometimes. I am interested to see how the Nikwax treated down performs as well!
Great informative review 👍 thank you 😊
Thank you so much for watching! I'm glad that it was useful info ☺
Any idea what hydrophobic down means and does that improve its performance compared to regular down? My Nemo says that but not sure.
Hydrophobic down is regular down treated with a water-repellent coating, making it more resistant to moisture. This helps it maintain better loft and insulation when exposed to damp conditions, compared to untreated down, which tends to clump and lose warmth. While it’s not fully waterproof, hydrophobic down can enhance performance in wet environments.
Definitely add the the Nemo bags in the title, I believe it would help reach more people because the info was really useful 😉😄
Great idea! I'll consider it 😄Thanks for watching!
2:26 - even vegans are kind of divided about down though. Like a lot of the environmentally-minded vegans are aware production of synthetic fills relies on destruction of wetlands (especially with Fort MucMurray oilsands), whereas you can get down jackets and sleeping bags second-hand from a garage sales
I do wish companies stop selling 600-fill down. They perform the same as synthetic and the meat-ducks don't have great lives compared to 900-fill geese that are not used in meat production.
If we're going to have a conversation about utility of agricultural byproducts, I much rather have that go into pet foods considering the enormous environmental footprints of "human-grade" pet foods with no clinical evidence the ingredients make a difference in the health of our pets
If you want, I can forward an article about Finnish dog food production where they are having this massive issue where pet parents are demanding "human-grade" ingredients in dog food, yet at the same time fur-farms are being shut down and people don't want to scale back commercial livestock agriculture.
Historically unwanted parts were used in pet food production, but then the byproducts got shifted to food for minks, foxes and raccoon-dogs when the paleo diet and gluten-free diet became a fad amongst health-conscious people and trickled down to pet parents.
Sorry for being weirdly nerdy about how 600-fill down from the meat-duck industry, which are not useful to anyone, spilling over into the outdoor industry.
Companies get to sound "fancy" selling down jackets and down sleeping bags, while selling a product which is inferior to synthetic fill. It's wild.
@@ZaryaTheLaika Wow! That's fascinating. We just did an episode on the podcast about the creation of the Responsible Down Standard, so this is definitely of interest to me. I'd love to learn more about the dog food topic. I make my dog's food sometimes, but typically feed them Farmina as well. I know that dog food is creating a lot of issues across the world right now with how much meat it is using. Feel free to send me the article! I'm not sure if you can leave links in the comments but you can also email me on our website if that's easier.
I used to be SUPER opposed to down and wool as a vegan, but I have also kind of changed my tune. I use some down and wool materials now, especially with secondhand and recycled-down options. Sometimes, it is more about which material actually minimizes harm.
Super useful video. I'm a vegetarian so I will opt for a synthetic sleeping bag or quilt. I also plan on 95% car camping in temps only around 40-70 at night. Thanks for the insight!
I'm so glad it was helpful!! A synthetic bag will be great for car camping adventures 😃 Which one are you thinking of getting?
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Thank you for watching! I'm glad you thought so!
I don't think I'll be panicking in the Disco
I wish I could react with a laughing face instead of a heart.