Timbaland Doesn't Like My Beats...

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  • @muzibeats1010
    @muzibeats1010 ปีที่แล้ว +980

    I like the fact that he didn’t hold back and he told you what to improve and how you can improve. Overall great video!

    • @Woodsaras
      @Woodsaras ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The fk does Timbaland know, lol.

    • @akaashchandra3088
      @akaashchandra3088 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@Woodsaras you're kidding right

    • @prod.7aco194
      @prod.7aco194 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Woodsaras ??? Have you even heard of the dude

    • @Woodsaras
      @Woodsaras ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@akaashchandra3088 I'm not. His notes were abstract, subjective trash with no depth. Just because someone was successful at some point in time it sure dont mean they are a proper expert.

    • @Woodsaras
      @Woodsaras ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@prod.7aco194 yes, obviously

  • @ChrisBabs32
    @ChrisBabs32 ปีที่แล้ว +1818

    Oceans got wayyy better beats than what he displayed here

  • @Kadenxe
    @Kadenxe ปีที่แล้ว +1059

    honestly felt like you have better beats than what you showed him

    • @bluequest22
      @bluequest22 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Bruh 👀

    • @koalamusik
      @koalamusik ปีที่แล้ว +10

      word

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

    • @crazyace88
      @crazyace88 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DrGuy118 trash? Lol um ok.

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@crazyace88 Without browsing wikipedia, or youtube, name one hot T*m song that was released since the the iphone 1 came out.

  • @LarryAsberryJr
    @LarryAsberryJr ปีที่แล้ว +272

    I like the willingness for Timbo to give back to a young producer like yourself. You humbly accepted his feedback and put it out there for the whole world to see. . It shows you seek growth on a level that keeps you grounded. Many blessings to you sir!

    • @bgallagrr
      @bgallagrr ปีที่แล้ว +32

      He paid money for that feedback. Beat club ain't free.

    • @VX-cy4du
      @VX-cy4du ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's not "giving back" anything, but yes, feedback is important.

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

    • @CuzzoTheGreat
      @CuzzoTheGreat ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I'm honest

    • @ksager123
      @ksager123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DrGuy118exactly

  • @DrZhark
    @DrZhark ปีที่แล้ว +194

    Inspiring how you show this basically unedited, its lowkey putting yourself up vulnearble and i think that's powerful.

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

    • @eskaylation
      @eskaylation ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrGuy118 low can always learn from mid...

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eskaylation I'm sorry, but "your taste is trash" is not a constructive review... If you believe in talking to your students like this, you are well below mid.

    • @CuzzoTheGreat
      @CuzzoTheGreat ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I'm honest

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      EXACTLY!!!

  • @beataddict5475
    @beataddict5475 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Its so crazy because its always the beats we actually love that when we let people hear them they usually dont like or pick them. They usually pick the ones we think are duds. It always happens that way.

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

    • @goingglobalmusicgroup2555
      @goingglobalmusicgroup2555 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's why the beats you don't like should be the ones you pay attention to as beat makers. My inhouse producer always says so many artist didn't pick the beat I chose. I told him all artist don't hear the same thing fam. Just be creative and don't get caught in making what every else is making. If it feels good it is good on some James Brown!

    • @CuzzoTheGreat
      @CuzzoTheGreat ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I'm honest

    • @eliv.o7105
      @eliv.o7105 ปีที่แล้ว

      It those beats were shit…I wonder if he did that on purpose…Tim was being nice here

    • @nicholasjames5471
      @nicholasjames5471 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Some producers produce to impress other producers, others make beats for rappers. I think most of the producers on TH-cam fall into the first category.

  • @prodpas
    @prodpas ปีที่แล้ว +165

    The moments where Timbaland just mumbles ocean's melodies with his mouth are just gold

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

    • @viggofagerstrom9262
      @viggofagerstrom9262 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DrGuy118 He literally produced Amari by J cole in 2 minutes

    • @CuzzoTheGreat
      @CuzzoTheGreat ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I'm honest

    • @IMaBeastDoWatDEn
      @IMaBeastDoWatDEn ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DrGuy118 he’s old now but he’s still a goat and knows a lot about music and can offer info

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IMaBeastDoWatDEn I'm not here to bash T*m... To me, he is literally my #1 hip hop producer.
      ... still though, if your daughters dance teacher were to call your daughters lucky leotard ugly, would you allow that to happen without any clap back just because she has GOAT status in her field?

  • @Sasuke99767
    @Sasuke99767 ปีที่แล้ว +470

    That face of Ocean after getting disrespect on every beat😂😂.

    • @mrtnm121
      @mrtnm121 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      It's called criticism.

    • @endless1247
      @endless1247 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@mrtnm121 ngl i think hes trying to force criticism

    • @mrtnm121
      @mrtnm121 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@endless1247 Yeah, I saw that to, but you just gotta take it coz he's the OG.

    • @simpiderman
      @simpiderman ปีที่แล้ว +4

      At the end of the day I learnt something

    • @Usenabt
      @Usenabt ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@endless1247 🥴 his criticism was 100%, I’m tryna think why he’d play these beats to Timbaland

  • @prodbysimbapounce
    @prodbysimbapounce ปีที่แล้ว +211

    Timbaland is also one of my fav producers so this is legendary!

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

    • @prodbysimbapounce
      @prodbysimbapounce ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DrGuy118 But this guy has been in the game longer than Ocean has been so if anyone should be taking advice from anyone it’s Timbaland

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@prodbysimbapounce Metro Boomin is DEFINITELY a more accomplished producer than T*m, post Nelly Furtado, and he is probably a few years younger than Ocean...
      So if Metro says "I like that orchestral, cinematic trap" who are you going to listen to?

    • @prodbysimbapounce
      @prodbysimbapounce ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DrGuy118 or even Nick Mira he hasn’t been in the game long and he has multi platinum hits

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@prodbysimbapounce The whole session seemed judgmental... It was like a g*y person saying "If you like straight people, you are trash." or a straight person saying "If you like g*y people, you are trash...
      Ask the producer questions... How did you come to this conclusion? What is this beat being used for? and then say "If you want to produce for x, you might want to make it less cinematic. If you want to produce for y, it's perfect how it is."
      He basically called his daw "weird" and inferior. What kind of nerdy sh*t did we just watch?

  • @JensenBrown
    @JensenBrown ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Having the ability to have Timbaland critique your work regardless of whether he messing with it or not is a big achievement. Theres lessons for everyone in this video too! appreciate you sharing your journey with us every time 🙏

  • @alexturner2323
    @alexturner2323 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job bro👏🏾🎉 Look how far uve come from the beginning to now. Keep going and keep grinding u got hella love from ure community, nd your inspiring others along the way , thats whats its about!!

  • @Chazino
    @Chazino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Levels! Big up bro keep it pushing, u put the work in 💯

  • @ripabeats2005
    @ripabeats2005 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Ocean gonna reach even greater heights than he has reached now. From going to his tiny studio in Manchester in 2020 to where he is at now, and where his new studio is. He is unstoppable, he will always keep pushing and thats what inspires us as your audience to keep pushing and grinding too. Thanks Ocean!

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

    • @CuzzoTheGreat
      @CuzzoTheGreat ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I'm honest

  • @jaycole1900
    @jaycole1900 ปีที่แล้ว +475

    Im so surprised with your beats selection. You've created WAY BETTER beats throughout the years. Im confused

    • @celesongo
      @celesongo ปีที่แล้ว +61

      If you've made beats for 8 years then you're at the point where every beat you make has to be somewhat "good" = It shouldn't really matter what beats you play. Also I think its better to showcase your "generic" beats because thats what you're really making/selling most of the time. Ofc you might have a really good beat once in a while but showcasing them here wouldn't really help to improve Ocean if he wants to actually increase sales and stuff

    • @Sonaurea
      @Sonaurea ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thats a good point

    • @jazz9236
      @jazz9236 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      What’s the point for timb to come on just to say his beats is fire..the point of playing wack beats is for promotion

    • @moog5260
      @moog5260 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      makes more sense to play something he can criticise the audience can benefit more.

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

  • @AttamanKing
    @AttamanKing ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats bro, you did put yourself on the fya and aint get burned!!! this situation is the best way to improve, like be advised by someone like Timbo is dope, for sure you gonna grow alot after it!!!

  • @DlowTheProphet
    @DlowTheProphet ปีที่แล้ว

    so dope, alot of respect to have him in a Ft.
    i like how you showed off the not so usual beats to him for this video... kinda curious on the beats you showed him that he fucked with heavy.
    you make killer beats, and i know you had some in your arsenal that you shot out.

  • @moxemusic
    @moxemusic ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Yoo HUGE respect to you for sharing this with your community! I really appreciate that a lot cause normally you only see the "perfect" world of producers who are always winning etc. But this shows that in reality even if you are as good as Ocean you still have to take some failure to develop as an artist. Thanks! You helped me a lot with this video!

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

    • @OfficialFetzTV
      @OfficialFetzTV ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrGuy118 excuse me??

  • @bz.productions
    @bz.productions ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Honesty is key, I like that he's telling you what you don't want to hear, it's the best way forward! 🌟💜📈

  • @klmoves
    @klmoves ปีที่แล้ว

    keep doing your thing, man. appreciate the rawness and vulnerability in sharing. You're an amazing artist NONETHELESS. Take what you need and go.

  • @jacksp8de
    @jacksp8de ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow he was right on and straightforward and honest. Thats how you get someone better at their craft though. Can’t sugarcoat anything. You just have to be able to humble yourself and really take it in and see if the advice resonates. If it does make the corrections and keep pushing.

  • @davidtonga5678
    @davidtonga5678 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for sharing this Ocean…it shows you got grit and humility to ALWAYS improve…gives the younger generation something to look forward to…thank you!!!

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

  • @Jamusictv
    @Jamusictv ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think Tim was pretty spot on. He has a seasoned ear of over three decades. And even though the music scene has past his sound by and modern music sounds much different then his era. He still has a great ear. It takes a lot of guts to post a video like this. Big up to you.

  • @el-zach6434
    @el-zach6434 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really love his honesty with you, and that will kinda push the best of the heck producer in you to show up

  • @iam_modad
    @iam_modad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love you ocean. I learned practically everything on logic from you and you’ve got pretty dope sounds that would have blow Timbo away. The world gonna recognize your great talent soon enough and great coaching by a mentor and icon timbs love❤

  • @Allin-authentic
    @Allin-authentic ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bro this is crazy that we usually hear better beats from you than what you presented to Timbo but hey having those feedbacks from a such legend is sick. This is one step forward to becoming a greater producer than you already are. & this gives us the opportunity to hear what we can do to improve our production, like i already said in the pass, i wish to collab with you one day. Keep up the good work 🤙🏾

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

  • @NathanNiederer
    @NathanNiederer ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I love how involved Timbaland is with the underground. He truly out here to help up and coming artists. He’s always gone be one of my favourites

  • @RealDLMusic
    @RealDLMusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's always great to get feedback from a friend or fellow producer... it's even better that it was Timbo helping you out.
    Now I'm second guessing MY tag. lol
    I kinda ran into something similar while tryna make a reggaeton beat... where it sounded it good but something was missing cuz it just felt like I was tryna mesh two different genres.
    Add a lil percussion and speeding up the melody a little might help.
    Or like Timbaland said, try a different one.
    He's right though... you're getting there and that's dope. Keep doing big things Ocean.

  • @PlatinumGalOfficial
    @PlatinumGalOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you did great Ocean, keep pushing and elevating your sound. 💖

  • @coryhill6575
    @coryhill6575 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Imagine getting in front of Timbaland and playing this out of all your beats

  • @jeromefraser7322
    @jeromefraser7322 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    Damn, I felt nervous for you as you was playing him your beats. It must have felt like waiting for approval from your parents or something. Great vid tho

    • @ashwinniamat8560
      @ashwinniamat8560 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why. He just a dude. They all are lmao.

    • @n0follow
      @n0follow ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@ashwinniamat8560 nope, for a producer Timbaland's opinion is worth more than just some dude's
      that's like a bball player looking up to lebron and you saying he's just some guy

    • @simpiderman
      @simpiderman ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ashwinniamat8560 Timbaland is what we all want to become. He is inspiration.
      Whenever I feel down, I listen to his podcasts. He inspired to many artists. His timbaland course made what I'm today. (That course was lit only for his interview).

    • @ashwinniamat8560
      @ashwinniamat8560 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simpiderman That's okay. But if you would ask timba, should you idolize of become unique. Guess what my man's gonna say. Ashwin is right. So that's what im referring to. To many clones out here.

    • @simpiderman
      @simpiderman ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ashwinniamat8560 taking inspiration and copying them is different thing

  • @DJackson-gs2kv
    @DJackson-gs2kv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this content bro, it's dope that you put yourself out here like that.

  • @isaacxvasquez
    @isaacxvasquez ปีที่แล้ว

    Respect to you and your grinding bro! Im always super honest even doe it might hurt its better to be honest.
    The problem with these beats you showed are that they are not unique, you are doing what has been done for 10 years or more. I think i almost recocginze all the drum sounds, and just starting there, record / pitch / combine your own drum sounds, or dig and find your own samples, otherwise you sound like 97% of all the beatmakers out there. There is to much of everything everywhere on the word wide web and to make good stuff one have to be unique, simply just being 100% yourself. Fins inspiration somewhere else than the music your going to make, travel, I dont know, hehe your own roots dig there. THere are milions of ways to explore and find a unique own sound. Avoid the comercial sample stations!!!
    God bless u bro, love your grind! big RESPECT

  • @BigDiccNicc
    @BigDiccNicc ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the zoom ins on timbaland face be havin me cryin

  • @prod.7aco194
    @prod.7aco194 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    NAH DAWG THATS LEGENDARY THIS IS SO COOL
    Edit: just finished the video and damn what I would give to be able to have him coach me too that sounds really fun and also super informative

    • @RareTechniques
      @RareTechniques ปีที่แล้ว +1

      because everything he says is str8 FAX lol, living legend

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

    • @prod.7aco194
      @prod.7aco194 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DrGuy118 you’re acting like I’m boutta take his word as completely law with no questions.. you can’t be surprised that I would want to take the opinion of one of the most influential and decorated producers of all time into account tho so yeah no shit I’m gonna take his advice seriously 😂

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@prod.7aco194 Decorated 20 years ago... What have you done for me lately except shoot down some amazing ideas?

    • @prod.7aco194
      @prod.7aco194 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrGuy118 bruh I don’t even know you you were the one who came into my comment being all hostile calling tim trash and even censoring his name like ????

  • @christianowusu1213
    @christianowusu1213 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey man, props to ocean for putting himself out there like that. There's a fine line between constructive criticism and completely deteriorating somebody's confidence in perfecting their craft. Timbaland is one of the best to ever do it and this criticism is more valuable than any piece of equipment money can buy. Keep pushing Brotha!!!

  • @danielsaintmusic
    @danielsaintmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    This was really cool to see. In a clout chasing world often times I see to many 🔥 emojis to the most basic beats more so because that person wants to get recognized by whoever’s post they’re commenting on, or just want to boost that persons ego. This also goes to show you can do this full time and still have a lot to learn and improve on. To be fair, I don’t think these are the best beats I’ve heard from you, but I applaud you for uploading this and being transparent that we’re all on a journey and gotta grow everyday! Huge W regardless man Timbo the GOAT

  • @salawuoluwasegun3754
    @salawuoluwasegun3754 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’ve been in this type of situation before. You tend to present your worst beats when the time comes to present something to the pros in the industries. And also one thing, we producers, the beat we like is usually the worst of all the beats we do. I don’t know why it’s always like that. The beat I don’t love among my beats and music in general is what people around me tend to move their body to. I totally understand what ocean was facing at this point

  • @wildbird78
    @wildbird78 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Honestly keep doing you. The artists will come to you. Not all beats need to be nor should be Timbaland approved.

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

    • @CuzzoTheGreat
      @CuzzoTheGreat ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I'm honest

    • @qtippz
      @qtippz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah those beats really don't need his approval. I've never really been a big Timbo fan especially in his later years. To me he's become that old guy in the room stuck on old ways that thinks they still got it or know what they're talking about. Times have changed and styles have also. Ocean could definitely find someone on any of those beats.

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@qtippz Somebody give this man a Grammy for this comment... Plus, you can't really fully mix a song unless you have vocals on it, or else the song won't match with the vocals.
      Listen to this song th-cam.com/video/Nr9wi89weu8/w-d-xo.html
      It's fairly straightforward beat... I am sure T*m would trash the beat, but the way it is mixed makes it my top 5 song in '22.

    • @79Glitch
      @79Glitch ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DrGuy118nah, he had the Timberlake album around the same time, and Shock Value had a lot of fire beats-I think I preferred that one over the the Timberlake and Furtado albums, just for the variety if nothing else.
      He was addicted to pain killers (OxyContin, I believe) shortly after that and almost died. So he lost a lot of time because of that, had to regain his health and sobriety, and then music changed to cutesy, teen tik tok trap music that all sounds like it was made by the same guy or A.I. bot.
      The guy still has a lot of knowledge, though. I would bet that he’ll still find a way to come out with something dope before it’s all said and done. I think he has one more classic in him, he’s just waiting for the right time and project.

  • @Radoganer
    @Radoganer ปีที่แล้ว

    Ocean gonna be the upcoming taking it over, big ups to wanting to sement your craft through tough fires!

  • @Ast3rixMusic
    @Ast3rixMusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow man he really put things in perspective. Everybody need to work things out. Sometimes it hurts to hear the truth, but if you put that behind yourself and really dig in and start experimenting it will change everything you do. I am going through this same thing and have been for a few years. I had to rework my melodies and drums. I use Ableton and the Akai Force to produce. So I had to rethink my workflow a little and come up with a smoother way for me to make less generic sounding stuff. It's not perfect, but I'm getting closer to finding my sound.

  • @pinkroomstudios
    @pinkroomstudios ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Super proud to see this Ocean. Keep going bro!

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

  • @user-de3jk8kj3h
    @user-de3jk8kj3h ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Daw doesn't matter just pick one of the top 3 FL Logic or Ableton and learn one. Timbaland saying Logic is only Good for vocals is a Big L "A Good Craftsman Never Blames His Tools"

    • @DJAUDIO1
      @DJAUDIO1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      💯

    • @billybarrett272
      @billybarrett272 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That’s the only thing that bothers me about his critique here. Throwing shade at DAW is crazy. Daw’s are just a foundation for a creator to build what they hear.

    • @DJAUDIO1
      @DJAUDIO1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billybarrett272 Exactly. Create heat, regardless of DAW. I see this in the DJ world, where DJs are always bickering over the superior DJ application, be it Serato, Rekordbox, Virtual DJ, Traktor, Algoriddim.
      The average person listening to music doesn't care which DAW a song was created in or what DJ application it was played thru, They just want to hear their favorite songs.
      Use what works best for you and keep it moving. Too much gatekeeping going on these days.

  • @ddbeat7343
    @ddbeat7343 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t wait to hear ocean new stuff after this 💪🏾

  • @808Dustte
    @808Dustte ปีที่แล้ว +5

    he just didnt tell you something that you wanna hear but something you HAVE TO hear. That was cool and it showed that he really want to help you

  • @chiqo42
    @chiqo42 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    i catch some of the beatclub streams from time to time and tim is very selective. good that he actually had a conversation and gave you some direction instead of just dismissing it like some of the things that get played for him.

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

    • @CuzzoTheGreat
      @CuzzoTheGreat ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I'm honest

    • @matt-lv7jl
      @matt-lv7jl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DrGuy118 he produces some of the songs out there today but is behind the scenes, we only really hear about it if people start talking about it, e.g. when he made J Cole's "amari" beat live on twitch (and deleted it because it wasn't good enough for tim) and j cole contacted him for it and he had to remake it, we don't really hear much about what he does, but there's also a video of him with billie eilish and his producers playing some beats for her, so who knows what he does behind the scenes

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matt-lv7jl I really do not take offense or question T*m's ability to make a beat... I question his ability to handle his student with respect and to have an open mind.

  • @mikec538
    @mikec538 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Respect to you Ocean for letting Timbo hear your beats. That’s how you get better man. Wish you nothing but success in 2023.

  • @jrdotcomm7055
    @jrdotcomm7055 ปีที่แล้ว

    love wht u do ocean keep it up

  • @GamerGriaBros
    @GamerGriaBros ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I understand some may think of better beats however, I feel this feedback was super vital regardless of how the records sounded. We all know Ocean goes hard, so that same feedback he will apply to any of his records from here out. This was such a humbling experience and you earned it Ocean!!💯

  • @knowledge25k
    @knowledge25k ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yo! that was amazing. I guarantee with no doubt in my mind you are going to get 100 times better. Logic is my favorite daw but Ableton and Fl Drum just hit differently, Sometime you have to get off your comfort zone

    • @sandmanlopez9920
      @sandmanlopez9920 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow 😯

    • @giano6343
      @giano6343 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      WTF since when drums hit different on different daws. Never heard stupid stuff like this

  • @houseoflatin
    @houseoflatin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    extremely useful feedback i must say. you can hear each of the suggestions/problems he pinpointed. and sure, you can agree or disagree but the main point is to use his ability to dissect and hear the complete track and its parts in other contexts in his head, instantaneously. It forces you to really think of what you are doing.

  • @AA-lq5pu
    @AA-lq5pu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I learnt so much from this. Thank you for your willingness to have him critique your beats. I can now see all the areas where I need to improve myself. It really is a process.

  • @Thepiphxny
    @Thepiphxny ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Bruh this is legendary, Simon is gonna be pissed😂,that’s his fav producer

  • @FlynnNolan
    @FlynnNolan ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Everything happens for a reason my bro. Maybe you weren’t meant to show him your best beats for a bigger reason and to just make you a better producer. Because I’ll echo what everyone else is saying here that you have muchhhh better songs than what you displayed to him but sometimes we can all get things out of perspective on our art. Either way this is legendary that you were able to have this experience. Keep doin your thing homie you’re crushin it 🙏🏼💪🏼

  • @freesoulmusicproductions
    @freesoulmusicproductions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know what even having timberland roast your beats is a level most people will never get to keep going bro I’ll see you at the top

  • @ivopauwels5064
    @ivopauwels5064 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice of you putting this online man. It's nice to have The one and only Mr Timbaland reviewing your songs and giving tips on how to improve yourself. Great stuff! And I know what he means because I always have the same problem with my beats, the Melodies are too much and they need to give more air for a rapper to rap on it. Same as in a band everyone needs to give space for the other instruments. Thanks for putting this online, helps a lot!

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

  • @daqueenjo2549
    @daqueenjo2549 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’ve been watching you since I started producing two years ago!You’re an amazing producer and I’m excited to continue to see your journey and growth. I love the feedback TIMBALANDD gave cause that’s the only way we get even better. I do feel like you have better beats tho 😅 flowers to you Ocean, sending love from nyc 🔥

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garysyoutube T*m is an amazing artist... I just feel that a few comments he made, he had no right to make... Other than that, he is a stellar producer.

  • @Sasuke99767
    @Sasuke99767 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The beats are very good. Timbo just likes to be a super coach. Ocean, you dont need to get those negative comments too serious. Great beats👍

    • @prodbyocean
      @prodbyocean  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Ofc! It’s all love, +ve criticism

    • @garycummingsjr.6896
      @garycummingsjr.6896 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Nah ocean take the lessons. Only weak people see it as negative or hate. He paid his dues.

    • @NickCageDrippp
      @NickCageDrippp ปีที่แล้ว +9

      weak mindset

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

    • @CuzzoTheGreat
      @CuzzoTheGreat ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I'm honest

  • @emilproducing
    @emilproducing ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this! Thank you for sharing. Many people dont want to see others that where they could improve.

  • @itsawoleyworld855
    @itsawoleyworld855 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro this is intense man lol
    Ngl Ocean I’ve heard you make wavier beats than what you showed Timbo man!?! Wagwan?!

  • @alexroseakaphillie
    @alexroseakaphillie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice to see Tim put you in the right direction much respect

  • @xbeatsofficial
    @xbeatsofficial ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well the truth is bitter, the GOAT was right. If he'd played the beat for like small producers we'd be like 🔥🔥😤.

  • @UltimateMoralizer
    @UltimateMoralizer ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep doing your thing, Ocean. I think you’re beats are sick even though I’m an underground conscious hip-hop head who likes Boom Bap and can’t stand drill and trap. Reggaeton is awesome though. Me gusta reggaeton mi amigo. It’s very competitive in general. You’re doing very well though!

  • @OneNeverEnds
    @OneNeverEnds ปีที่แล้ว

    Timbaland said "Too Rockyish" haha. I really enjoy your channel, and I do like these beats for real - great work. I'm a fan of big instrumentation which I tend to lean into at time with my productions as well. His feedback is great - I will say definitely aimed for MCs. That's the tough part, picking something you are proud of but also want to lead with your best artwork from the listener's perspective. It's really hard to pick! You probably have hundreds of awesome beats in the wings and knowing which ones will be the top is tough...I felt nervous for you haha. Keep it up though, great work and it says a lot about you willing to expose critique and be humble in doing so. Awesome stuff Ocean.

  • @LeebraMusicDDTLA
    @LeebraMusicDDTLA ปีที่แล้ว +28

    First , thank you for sharing this with us. secondly, I like how you took the criticism positively to enable you be more good at your craft.
    Thirdly, This channel is 🔥

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

    • @CuzzoTheGreat
      @CuzzoTheGreat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly I'm honest

  • @dot.O
    @dot.O ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "I dont hear no song over it" alot of beat makers tend to forget that 🔑

    • @spartanghost_17
      @spartanghost_17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly they get lost in making cool noise that nobody can make songs on. I'm shocked ocean only played trash beats on this. He has way better stuff

  • @RelicLabzEntertainment
    @RelicLabzEntertainment ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nahh that last beat was fire no cap, keep this shi up dawgie

  • @KevoMazziwa
    @KevoMazziwa ปีที่แล้ว

    Ocean my G! The patience and how he kept his cool as his beats were being criticised.... True master .... Patience is key

  • @headdrumzmusic
    @headdrumzmusic ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Logic Gang! Ocean and Timberland 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Erisbeatz
    @Erisbeatz ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It's funny how we are judged by the pros, lol but this is art, you are actually seeking many opinions. Not from one person.
    Most people who listen to music just enjoy it.
    Those beats are 🔥and depends on who sing or rap on them that makes the hit song.

    • @Usenabt
      @Usenabt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They aren’t 🔥🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @Erisbeatz
      @Erisbeatz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Usenabt yeah.. I listen to a lot of top charting songs that beats not up the ones reviewed here.

    • @ShivamKumar-ip6sk
      @ShivamKumar-ip6sk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Erisbeatz what he played was very generic bro, nothing new, if you take generic beats to a legendary producer, he is going to shit on it that's very obvious. Literally every drill beat sounds like the one here, literally every lil baby type beat sounds like the first beat. you gotta be unique man.

    • @Erisbeatz
      @Erisbeatz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ShivamKumar-ip6sk agreed, But it doesn't mean if those beats are used by big names it won't be a hit, one thing is to be unique another is to be there.

    • @DrGuy118
      @DrGuy118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid.
      I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

  • @mombaklaat
    @mombaklaat ปีที่แล้ว

    The best about this is that you shared it with us. True!

  • @myrongakachange1669
    @myrongakachange1669 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was pretty cool man. How did you get a piece of Mr. Mosleys time?

  • @flytronica
    @flytronica ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Do you think that part of this is that you and Timbaland have very different styles? I’m surprised at the selection you played him vs the other beats you’ve put up on your videos in the past that I think would have resonated with him more.

  • @GorgonDrageil
    @GorgonDrageil ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Timbaland just doesn't like logic! 🤣 But I loved the third beat and the last beat. Proud of my boy Ocean, well done! 💪🏽🔥🔥🔥

  • @jesserayner975
    @jesserayner975 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the slow zooms in on your face when u waiting for his reaction 😅

  • @mixwaves9380
    @mixwaves9380 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only gana make you better bro like the honesty tho keep going bless up

  • @jkmedia8318
    @jkmedia8318 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:47 i don’t think it‘s too „cinematic“ or not even „outdated“ as Timbaland says. @ocean just check out the German rapper LUCIANO with his newest album „MAJESTIC“. this is definitely a beat that he‘d rocked and also nearly all beats from this album are like yours. I love it bro!

  • @Fizz-10000
    @Fizz-10000 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Goat for getting the Timbaland collab

  • @jmccouture3866
    @jmccouture3866 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ocean did awesome on his beats. An that was awesome how he got trained or coach from another professional. Love the video. 1:26

  • @BANGBANG-rp6ej
    @BANGBANG-rp6ej ปีที่แล้ว

    My Guy Ocean is Dope. Being able to Handle both Constructive criticism and Subjective input is the fuel that u need for the fire to burn
    Cancel

  • @brandonmarquez1117
    @brandonmarquez1117 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Keep doing what your doing Ocean. Take Timbaland’s advice and apply it to Logic. Let this experience guide you to become a better producer!

  • @iamdeandrefrench
    @iamdeandrefrench ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To my ear, I see a career in sync and film music with Ocean. Everyone has a niche.

    • @unpublicized
      @unpublicized ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fax i feel like his beats are a bit too conventional for rap songs today at least, not to take anything away from him though.

  • @Atib93
    @Atib93 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m curious what was the process in how you selected which best to show. Have to share with the sentiment you’ve done allot more better ones

  • @HJ-mx2rt
    @HJ-mx2rt ปีที่แล้ว

    I think these advices are super boost for your career. Good luck!

  • @DJDangerBeatz
    @DJDangerBeatz ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I feel like you’ve made way better beats then the ones shown in the video.

  • @headdrumzmusic
    @headdrumzmusic ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Ocean was trollin 😂

    • @sebastianramirez2102
      @sebastianramirez2102 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @TheCrazySquirell
      @TheCrazySquirell ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only explaination, some of them beats sounded like a year 11 made them in GCSE Music... Nothing like some of the stuff he's put out.

    • @humblemindsmusic4878
      @humblemindsmusic4878 ปีที่แล้ว

      idk a lot of producers out here don't know that the beats they think are the best are the worst ones. trust me this is me sometimes.

  • @mixbygygyondbeat1295
    @mixbygygyondbeat1295 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inspired thanks for sharing Ocean

  • @David-gp3fd
    @David-gp3fd ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn well i respect him keeping it real and explaining things and how to make each track better. You gonna switch to FL or ableton or you already too deep and comfortable in Logic? Never used Logic but i know some of favorite producers do like Backwhen and Marsh

  • @curtislewis8801
    @curtislewis8801 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is dope as hell but I think you for sure have better beats lol
    But I guess the point wasn't to impress him but to get meaningful feedback on your weaker areas. Shout out to you my boi!

  • @chandoncamillo9550
    @chandoncamillo9550 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nah the drill beat was on point - it’s all about who you work with for one like that

  • @M.I.B.2021
    @M.I.B.2021 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it up ocean. I been a fan from day 1 and I'm rooting for you bro. Let's be honest. Timbo is a goat. So this is progress. You got this mayyyyyyynnnn ❤🔥🔥🔥🐐🐐✊🏿😎

  • @DerekGudmundson
    @DerekGudmundson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact you posted this made me respect you even more bro, humbling.

  • @ajwesybeatz4015
    @ajwesybeatz4015 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    just saying ocean u have better beats any reason for picking these?

    • @NainzSiki
      @NainzSiki ปีที่แล้ว +5

      tru bruh

    • @tabibyte
      @tabibyte ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why show good ones for criticism though

    • @makerbreaker6384
      @makerbreaker6384 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tabibyteso you can be critiqued on your best work, if you're displaying mid and you know why it's mid then why even show it

    • @tabibyte
      @tabibyte ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@makerbreaker6384 sometimes there are beats that doesn't hit hard and you dont know what you can improve on

  • @xbeatsofficial
    @xbeatsofficial ปีที่แล้ว +9

    He really roasted it🥶

  • @GregFries
    @GregFries ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I smiled and was so happy every time Timbo was like, "You got another beat?"

  • @shareefhassan2935
    @shareefhassan2935 ปีที่แล้ว

    that last beat was hard asf ocean keep goin🔥

  • @kid1der250
    @kid1der250 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ik ocean was crushed when Timb said to take his tag out 😭

  • @MrJayRed
    @MrJayRed ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's all a matter of opinion. Timbaland can say "oh you need to keep it simple" but then go listen to his beat from "Ayo Technology" 50 Cent Feat. Justin Timberlake. It's like, he's critiquing because he's supposed to. Because if someone like Metro Boomin played him these exact beats he would be nodding his head like crazy saying how fire they are. Of course, it's Timbaland and his opinion is very valued in the field. But like I said he has to critique because Ocean is up and coming and he's a legend, I get it. But like I said if an established mainstream famous producer played these same beats he'd be singing their praises. So it's hard for me to really value his opinion too much.

  • @MikeMackie
    @MikeMackie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Props for uploading this! Mans basically got roasted the whole time, I guess this just proves we can always get better no matter how much experience we have.

  • @NeedMoreCowbell9
    @NeedMoreCowbell9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been following you for a long time man, I started after watching two guys misto and pizzi. I can't believe Timbo is giving you feedback !!

  • @less_tress
    @less_tress ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i have never heard a really good ocean beat....its awesome he has a channel to help others but aint no way he was ready for that.

    • @kostoglotow
      @kostoglotow ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah he ok, but nothing mind blowing; even in the YT scene I always felt his stuff kinda mid tbh.