Thanks for the video. I have just ordered a Tomcat and am eagerly awaiting its arrival! I borrowed my brother-in-law’s Tomcat and took it to the range and loved it! I am a 62y old woman and previously carried the S&W M&P Shield. It is nearly impossible for me to rack the slide on it anymore. I considered replacing it with the S&W EZ - which is really easy to manage, but decided on the Tomcat because of its size and accuracy. I appreciate the info from your video. I especially appreciate that you mentioned the need to break it in before it runs smoothly. 😊
I love shooting and carrying my Tomcat! For a long time I wouldn't carry anything but a larger 9MM, but I found it restricting when I started working at a place that required me to bend over and pick up heavy objects frequently. Fitting in my pocket, and weighing in at around half of what my 9mm does, the Tomcat allows me to carry every single day at work comfortably. No need to throw out the 9mm though. I simply added a light / laser combo to it, and it now functions great as my home defense and outdoors firearm. Adaptation is a useful skill to learn! Like you, I find that many people around me question .32 as a valid self-defense round. I personally opted for the Tomcat over something like the LCP Max though because it wasn't nearly as snappy. Yes, the 380 is more effective ballistically. But if I don't enjoy shooting a gun like the MAX, I will never want to practice with it. If I never practice with it, I'll never get good at shooting it. If I'm not good at shooting it, then why even carry it? The Tomcat does sacrifice some capacity and power, but it allows me to eliminate all those other problems I mentioned. Shot placement to me is what is most important in self-defense anyways. I have most of my Tomcat magazines equipped with Pearce pinky extensions. Maybe you should give one a try. As nice as the Tomcat is to shoot out of the box, adding the extensions has been a game changer at the range for me.
The only issue with the 32 ACP is the possibility of a “rim lock” during an engagement, it renders the gun useless unless you do a mag change. I have heard that European made ammo gives you a better protection against this due to its rim construction. I love and carry my 3032, something about this gun that draws me to it. Great video, thank you.
The Tomcat is a remarkable gun. Flip up the barrel and put in a 32 cal. bullet, and with a double action trigger, you are ready to shoot. The trigger on the first shot is greater than 10 pounds but.... Pull back the hammer on the first shot, and the trigger becomes less than 3 pounds. So, you have 8 shots. Use hollow nose ammo and that bullet (when hitting something) makes a pretty big hole.
IMO it is the best semiauto pistol for people who want to carry concealed and cannot handle the recoil of a 380 and/or do not have the hand strength to pull the slide back on an autoloader. When people ask me what they should get for a person with low hand strength and/or very low tolerance for recoil this is the pistol I recommend. The 32 ACP is perfectly capable of self-defense duties even in a small pistol such as the Tomcat as long as the person practices enough to hit the vitals of the target in question. Even FMJ bullets will normally stay inside the target and while hollow points are available most (not all but most) will not be capable of penetrating more than around 6'' of ballistic gel
Plus hollow points are more expensive. A HUGE part of pocket guns is being economical cheaper to give you more rounds to increase your skill /shot placement. Reloading 32 acp is extremely cheap too. You can make 7 rounds for exactly a $1.00 into days crazy ammo shortage. If you have $15 in budget to shoot with that's 105 rounds of High quality low SD ammo, match grade. To shoot cheap unreadable ammo from surplus 9mm , the cheapest you'll see online is 4 bullets for $1. $15 is 60 rounds. I'm currently shopping for a bullet mold for 32acp in 75grn. If I can cast myown I'll be at 14 rounds of a $1 .
Got mine 5 years ago. LNIB For $250. Love it. Encourage me to buy a Beretta model 81. .32acp is nothing to scofflaw. Everyone at the range wanted to hate it. My nephew named it the Noisy Cricket. Another guy shot a card sized group. Said he couldn't have kept on paper with wife's LCP. CAN'T always carry 1911,security six or N frames.
A fellow cop was shot in the chest w/a .32 FMJ that stopped in the center of his uniform leather jacket. It left a bruise on his chest and knocked him off his motorcycle. I’ve carried the original LCP for about 10 yrs and never experienced a malfunction w/any kind of ammo.
I really like Ruger tools, have at least 4 of them. I had a LCP2 and shoot really bad with it. Eventually sold it, now I have the Tomcat and really happy with it
Thanks for the video and the truth! I have had this pistol for some time now. A great pocket pistol. I painted the front sightpost brightly, which helps. This gun is inaccurate, even on a wrist rest. I have a shooting buddy who has a brand-new Tomcat and we both had a tough time with accuracy at 7 yards! We also tried different ammo. I still love the gun for a pocket pistol, but it is definitely for close-up work only. What is your experience?
How does the rebate work, if I buy one on say gun prime for $380 can I get the $150 sent from beretta? I'm seeing people get ridiculous at $250 deals like you but I'm not sure from where or how
@@oscarbear7498 yea i just got the same deal its on now til end of decemeber and psa has these at 400 also on sale so it was 250. you pay the price of the gun first, so i paid 400. then i go to the beretta website to get the rebate form, fill it out and send it in with the proof of purchase and receipt and they send you back the rebate in a check form. i have done it for multiple other guns as well. great deal. great when you can stack a rebate with a sale.
Ive been studying this gun religiously for a 2 weeks now, and an highly impressed compared to everything on the market for edc. The covert tomcat has a 2.9inch barrel vs the normal inox one without a treaded barrel of 2.4. You may ask what does half an inch do? Well according to balistics by the inch it adds 10ft/lb of energy more( or 45 ft/sec on a 71 grn bullet) This is actually very nice because it should give you an extra 10ft/lb of safe moving up the recommended from 130ft/lb to 140ft/lb since the powder explosion is the same and its just barrel increasing energy. you can safely use the underwood +p giving 135 ft/lb. Gel test of said ammo was getting 16 inches of penetration with a 55grn bullet, which is exactly where you want to be. with shooting a 75 grn buffalo bore can get penetration of 17 inches from videos seen. Thats spectacular for the size of gun, ease of shooting, accuracy. Pretty much exactly what you need and nothing more. With very cheap reloading gear, i calculated you can reload for $0.15 a pop. That's very cheap and buffalo bore's bulllet are for sell too, so you can make your own buffalo bore ammo. A magazine of 7 rounds would cost $1 . Ive tested 22lr on living skulls to dispatch , the energy im getting from a 16 inch barrel was 120 ft/,lb. The tomcat is getting that in a compact size. I find it to be the perfect farm gun, for snakes, slaughtering goats, rabbits, birds, and even self defense. Since getting a 4 inch group at 7 yards isnt hard to simulate a head shot. Cooking at 125 ft/lb of energy will crack skull and immediately kill. Ladding 3 headshots @ 7 yards in 3 seconds is very doable. Beyond 7 yards ive never had an issue 100% of the time in my life a human treat was spitting distance, if i can spit that far its in proximity of treat, further is where things simmir down or in non fight mode. My main concern is speed, quick draw, shooting 1 hand, and Conceal ability... with utility being nice to slaughter goats too on the side. 9mm and 380 at the size of a tomcat are absolutely garbage to shoot, way too snappy, terrible in your hand, and just awful to shoot so you won't practice. Having a gun that is fun to shoot that will increases your range time and skill is alway a factor. I have guns in my vault i haven't shot in ovet 5 years because they suck or ammo is so expensive with non existent rifle primers. Why i told myself my next gun purchase would use small primers since you can still find. Adding a suppressor to the tomcat is a new thing i want to try, shooting without ear pro would be just amazing if soft enough
Mine has been at service for over 2 weeks "waiting for parts' due to safty failing.. note 50 round fired and 2 weeks old at time of failure. I bought it over other option FOR the safty and DA/SA trigger.
I have always wanted a 32 ACP Tomcat and was about to buy on till I read some negative reviews of the frame or slide cracking issues is this still a problem with the newer Beretta in 2023?
My wife has difficulty racking slides. I bought her a Tomcat. It didn't work out. Many of the ejected shells hit her forehead. One landed in her cleavage making her dance around at the range. I snatched the gun from her hand as her muzzle discipline was totally gone. I ended up giving her a S&W Mod 36 (Chief's Special) which she was happy with.
I carry one all the time. I know at one time a lot of adult probation officer here in PA were carrying these. They were not issued handguns so they would buy personal pistols.
Since the 32acp is a centerfire cartridge, I'm not nearly as concerned about ammo reliability as I am with the bobcat in 22lr. And also, since 32acp is relatively hard to come by, I've been using whatever I can get my hands on. Federal and PMC have functioned well for me so far, as well as Aguila. (I'm a big fan of Aguila in a wide variety of calibers, and their 32 is no different.) All have been FMJ "target" rounds. I don't think I will bother with a hollow point in this gun, as I can't imagine it generating nearly enough velocity for a bullet to expand properly.
@@johnnyshootsalot Try using the Buffalo Bore 60gr +P .32 hardcast load. It's a blast. Works in my Keltec P-32. The 3032 should do better as it's metal and heavier than a P-32.
Did you know that Beretta has a 3032 Alley Cat model? I think it just has night sights to it. Never saw one in store anywhere. Though I have seen the Bobcat and Tomcat used. If Beretta made a 3.5" Tomcat like the Beretta Model 70 that would be good. Quite a few people used .32 in warfare. Particularly the Germans. Think it was an Officer's pistol. Walther PP series.
Love the 3032. Think it's one of the best pocket guns ever invented... and there really isn't anything else that compares. I think DA/SA is the best action for self defense, but you just don't see DA/SA pocket guns anywhere else. Taurus came up with the PT-22 and PT-25, but they're DAO and they don't really compare (although they're not bad guns since they fixed the magazine issues). The only thing I really don't like about them is the thick slide on the newer produced models. They made the slide thicker to stop the frames from cracking with the heavier 72gr ammo... but it did Nothing to fix the problem. Now they just continue to sell them with thicker slides for no reason... and the thicker slides suck. They're just too thick. When my father got his new 3032 to replace the one he sold, he disliked the thick slide so much that we ended up ordering an older used slide to replace the thick slide to make it more comfortable to carry. If you do worry about the frame cracking issue yourself, I believe that shooting ammo that's 71gr and under is safe, but for some reason the 72gr ammo seems to be the cause for most cases.
It is to thick for Concealed Carry. Beretta refuses to correct the cracking barrel issue. Ammo picky and just to expensive. There is a reason it's abundantly available when the KelTec P32 is not.
With the Underwood Ammunition 32 ACP 55 Grain Lehigh Xtreme Defender +P at 1050 FPS would make this little pistol pretty formidable. It'll never equal a 9mm or such pistol but it would get the job done.
I'm 76 and love my 3032. It's saved my ass a couple of time. I've had it for 20 years, or so, and have not had a single malfunction.
Thanks for the video. I have just ordered a Tomcat and am eagerly awaiting its arrival! I borrowed my brother-in-law’s Tomcat and took it to the range and loved it! I am a 62y old woman and previously carried the S&W M&P Shield. It is nearly impossible for me to rack the slide on it anymore. I considered replacing it with the S&W EZ - which is really easy to manage, but decided on the Tomcat because of its size and accuracy. I appreciate the info from your video. I especially appreciate that you mentioned the need to break it in before it runs smoothly. 😊
I love shooting and carrying my Tomcat! For a long time I wouldn't carry anything but a larger 9MM, but I found it restricting when I started working at a place that required me to bend over and pick up heavy objects frequently. Fitting in my pocket, and weighing in at around half of what my 9mm does, the Tomcat allows me to carry every single day at work comfortably. No need to throw out the 9mm though. I simply added a light / laser combo to it, and it now functions great as my home defense and outdoors firearm. Adaptation is a useful skill to learn!
Like you, I find that many people around me question .32 as a valid self-defense round. I personally opted for the Tomcat over something like the LCP Max though because it wasn't nearly as snappy. Yes, the 380 is more effective ballistically. But if I don't enjoy shooting a gun like the MAX, I will never want to practice with it. If I never practice with it, I'll never get good at shooting it. If I'm not good at shooting it, then why even carry it? The Tomcat does sacrifice some capacity and power, but it allows me to eliminate all those other problems I mentioned. Shot placement to me is what is most important in self-defense anyways. I have most of my Tomcat magazines equipped with Pearce pinky extensions. Maybe you should give one a try. As nice as the Tomcat is to shoot out of the box, adding the extensions has been a game changer at the range for me.
The only issue with the 32 ACP is the possibility of a “rim lock” during an engagement, it renders the gun useless unless you do a mag change. I have heard that European made ammo gives you a better protection against this due to its rim construction. I love and carry my 3032, something about this gun that draws me to it. Great video, thank you.
Must be that $600
@@ericvonp must be cuz I love carrying my ZEV guns as well, the more expensive the better 😉
Wrong again bay leaf breath.
I acquired one new a few years back, safe for safe people. Easy to use. Recommend, especially for the elderly or women.
Its a sweet shooter, for sure.
I'm here for the great music...❤
The Tomcat is a remarkable gun. Flip up the barrel and put in a 32 cal. bullet, and with a double action trigger, you are ready to shoot. The trigger on the first shot is greater than 10 pounds but.... Pull back the hammer on the first shot, and the trigger becomes less than 3 pounds. So, you have 8 shots. Use hollow nose ammo and that bullet (when hitting something) makes a pretty big hole.
IMO it is the best semiauto pistol for people who want to carry concealed and cannot handle the recoil of a 380 and/or do not have the hand strength to pull the slide back on an autoloader. When people ask me what they should get for a person with low hand strength and/or very low tolerance for recoil this is the pistol I recommend. The 32 ACP is perfectly capable of self-defense duties even in a small pistol such as the Tomcat as long as the person practices enough to hit the vitals of the target in question. Even FMJ bullets will normally stay inside the target and while hollow points are available most (not all but most) will not be capable of penetrating more than around 6'' of ballistic gel
I agree. A hollow point is actually a worse choice in s short barreled, small caliber handgun.
Plus hollow points are more expensive.
A HUGE part of pocket guns is being economical cheaper to give you more rounds to increase your skill /shot placement.
Reloading 32 acp is extremely cheap too. You can make 7 rounds for exactly a $1.00 into days crazy ammo shortage.
If you have $15 in budget to shoot with that's 105 rounds of High quality low SD ammo, match grade.
To shoot cheap unreadable ammo from surplus 9mm , the cheapest you'll see online is 4 bullets for $1.
$15 is 60 rounds.
I'm currently shopping for a bullet mold for 32acp in 75grn. If I can cast myown I'll be at 14 rounds of a $1 .
Got mine 5 years ago. LNIB For $250. Love it. Encourage me to buy a Beretta model 81. .32acp is nothing to scofflaw. Everyone at the range wanted to hate it. My nephew named it the Noisy Cricket. Another guy shot a card sized group. Said he couldn't have kept on paper with wife's LCP. CAN'T always carry 1911,security six or N frames.
Thanks my wife has a .25 baby browning and this looks interesting as a real mouse gun
A fellow cop was shot in the chest w/a .32 FMJ that stopped in the center of his uniform leather jacket. It left a bruise on his chest and knocked him off his motorcycle. I’ve carried the original LCP for about 10 yrs and never experienced a malfunction w/any kind of ammo.
I really like Ruger tools, have at least 4 of them. I had a LCP2 and shoot really bad with it. Eventually sold it, now I have the Tomcat and really happy with it
I love this informative video!
Thanks for the video and the truth! I have had this pistol for some time now. A great pocket pistol. I painted the front sightpost brightly, which helps. This gun is inaccurate, even on a wrist rest. I have a shooting buddy who has a brand-new Tomcat and we both had a tough time with accuracy at 7 yards! We also tried different ammo. I still love the gun for a pocket pistol, but it is definitely for close-up work only. What is your experience?
Just got one for 400, with 150 rebate makes it 250. Gonna be my first carry and wanted something safe and easy to shoot
How does the rebate work, if I buy one on say gun prime for $380 can I get the $150 sent from beretta? I'm seeing people get ridiculous at $250 deals like you but I'm not sure from where or how
@@oscarbear7498 yea i just got the same deal its on now til end of decemeber and psa has these at 400 also on sale so it was 250. you pay the price of the gun first, so i paid 400. then i go to the beretta website to get the rebate form, fill it out and send it in with the proof of purchase and receipt and they send you back the rebate in a check form. i have done it for multiple other guns as well. great deal. great when you can stack a rebate with a sale.
I like your style. Very trustworthy.
Ive been studying this gun religiously for a 2 weeks now, and an highly impressed compared to everything on the market for edc.
The covert tomcat has a 2.9inch barrel vs the normal inox one without a treaded barrel of 2.4. You may ask what does half an inch do? Well according to balistics by the inch it adds 10ft/lb of energy more( or 45 ft/sec on a 71 grn bullet)
This is actually very nice because it should give you an extra 10ft/lb of safe moving up the recommended from 130ft/lb to 140ft/lb since the powder explosion is the same and its just barrel increasing energy.
you can safely use the underwood +p giving 135 ft/lb.
Gel test of said ammo was getting 16 inches of penetration with a 55grn bullet, which is exactly where you want to be. with shooting a 75 grn buffalo bore can get penetration of 17 inches from videos seen.
Thats spectacular for the size of gun, ease of shooting, accuracy.
Pretty much exactly what you need and nothing more.
With very cheap reloading gear, i calculated you can reload for $0.15 a pop. That's very cheap and buffalo bore's bulllet are for sell too, so you can make your own buffalo bore ammo. A magazine of 7 rounds would cost $1 .
Ive tested 22lr on living skulls to dispatch , the energy im getting from a 16 inch barrel was 120 ft/,lb. The tomcat is getting that in a compact size. I find it to be the perfect farm gun, for snakes, slaughtering goats, rabbits, birds, and even self defense. Since getting a 4 inch group at 7 yards isnt hard to simulate a head shot. Cooking at 125 ft/lb of energy will crack skull and immediately kill. Ladding 3 headshots @ 7 yards in 3 seconds is very doable.
Beyond 7 yards ive never had an issue 100% of the time in my life a human treat was spitting distance, if i can spit that far its in proximity of treat, further is where things simmir down or in non fight mode.
My main concern is speed, quick draw, shooting 1 hand, and Conceal ability... with utility being nice to slaughter goats too on the side.
9mm and 380 at the size of a tomcat are absolutely garbage to shoot, way too snappy, terrible in your hand, and just awful to shoot so you won't practice. Having a gun that is fun to shoot that will increases your range time and skill is alway a factor. I have guns in my vault i haven't shot in ovet 5 years because they suck or ammo is so expensive with non existent rifle primers. Why i told myself my next gun purchase would use small primers since you can still find.
Adding a suppressor to the tomcat is a new thing i want to try, shooting without ear pro would be just amazing if soft enough
Mine has been at service for over 2 weeks "waiting for parts' due to safty failing.. note 50 round fired and 2 weeks old at time of failure. I bought it over other option FOR the safty and DA/SA trigger.
$75 rebate 👍🏻👍🏻.
Great video
And opinions.
Thanks for watching!
Were you testing the 2.4 or 2.9 barrel version of the Tomcat 3032?
I have always wanted a 32 ACP Tomcat and was about to buy on till I read some negative reviews of the frame or slide cracking issues is this still a problem with the newer Beretta in 2023?
My wife has difficulty racking slides. I bought her a Tomcat. It didn't work out. Many of the ejected shells hit her forehead. One landed in her cleavage making her dance around at the range. I snatched the gun from her hand as her muzzle discipline was totally gone. I ended up giving her a S&W Mod 36 (Chief's Special) which she was happy with.
I carry one all the time. I know at one time a lot of adult probation officer here in PA were carrying these. They were not issued handguns so they would buy personal pistols.
Please let me know what ammo worked best for you in this pistol?
Since the 32acp is a centerfire cartridge, I'm not nearly as concerned about ammo reliability as I am with the bobcat in 22lr. And also, since 32acp is relatively hard to come by, I've been using whatever I can get my hands on. Federal and PMC have functioned well for me so far, as well as Aguila. (I'm a big fan of Aguila in a wide variety of calibers, and their 32 is no different.) All have been FMJ "target" rounds. I don't think I will bother with a hollow point in this gun, as I can't imagine it generating nearly enough velocity for a bullet to expand properly.
Thank you very much. Subscribed, and thumbs up. Got one never shot it yet but soon will after I get ammo.
@@johnnyshootsalot Try using the Buffalo Bore 60gr +P .32 hardcast load. It's a blast. Works in my Keltec P-32.
The 3032 should do better as it's metal and heavier than a P-32.
@@robertpatter5509 Beretta specifically states to NOT use any load that generates more than 130 ft lbs. They have a problem with the frame cracking.
Did you know that Beretta has a 3032 Alley Cat model?
I think it just has night sights to it. Never saw one in store anywhere.
Though I have seen the Bobcat and Tomcat used.
If Beretta made a 3.5" Tomcat like the Beretta Model 70 that would be good.
Quite a few people used .32 in warfare. Particularly the Germans. Think it was an Officer's pistol. Walther PP series.
It was discontinued unfortunately
When you fire, we see sparks rather than fire. What do you think that is? Please respond in my community. Enough Said. l
Love the 3032. Think it's one of the best pocket guns ever invented... and there really isn't anything else that compares. I think DA/SA is the best action for self defense, but you just don't see DA/SA pocket guns anywhere else. Taurus came up with the PT-22 and PT-25, but they're DAO and they don't really compare (although they're not bad guns since they fixed the magazine issues). The only thing I really don't like about them is the thick slide on the newer produced models. They made the slide thicker to stop the frames from cracking with the heavier 72gr ammo... but it did Nothing to fix the problem. Now they just continue to sell them with thicker slides for no reason... and the thicker slides suck. They're just too thick. When my father got his new 3032 to replace the one he sold, he disliked the thick slide so much that we ended up ordering an older used slide to replace the thick slide to make it more comfortable to carry. If you do worry about the frame cracking issue yourself, I believe that shooting ammo that's 71gr and under is safe, but for some reason the 72gr ammo seems to be the cause for most cases.
bought one today, the kush one. psa has them on sale for 400 and with the 150 beretta rebate comes to 250. steal. i will post videos
It is to thick for Concealed Carry. Beretta refuses to correct the cracking barrel issue. Ammo picky and just to expensive. There is a reason it's abundantly available when the KelTec P32 is not.
No complaints here I own an.inox tomcat
Who sings that song?
The only firearm I owned that used a clip was a M1 Garand using a en block clip.
It’s a magazine. It’s not a clip.
Aaaannnnddd you're an authoritarian lunatic. 🎯
And this guy loves himself a lot. He can't get camera from his face. It's terrible annoying. I can't watch it.
Umm it is a magazine and no it’s not called a clip!
Clip clip clip clip clip clip clip clip
It doesn’t matter AT ALL what it’s called. Grow up
It’s a magazine tho…
I redesigned the magazine. It is longer now and supports the lower finger. This increases accuracy.
Again, a guy trained with a Tomcat is way more effective than an untrained guy with even a 45 or 357!
Got one today 440 dollars
That's a good price 👍
I just bought a new one for under $500. In 10 days I'll be able to shoot it. I love the way it disappears in my pants pocket.
With the Underwood Ammunition 32 ACP 55 Grain Lehigh Xtreme Defender +P at 1050 FPS would make this little pistol pretty formidable. It'll never equal a 9mm or such pistol but it would get the job done.
I like the Underwood stuff a lot, but I don't think the Tomcat isn't rated for +p.