I got one of these because I found it extremely difficult to inflate my Exped mat with the pump sack inside the MSR Hubba 1 person tent. Pressure could be a little higher for my taste, but it inflates the mat just about hard enough for me to not touch the ground when lying on the side. The rechargeable battery easily lasts for a one week solo hike. For longer hikes, I‘d rather use a top quality disposable battery. (Over 1500 mah as compared to the 650 of the rechargeable one)
I suggest folks who own this lubricate the aluminum threads with pure beeswax as it will stop the threads grinding together. Also be very careful not to cross thread the endcap as the aluminum is somewhat soft. What really drove me to purchase this device is that the battery is easily replaceable, making the product not only less disposable, but I can carry spare RCR123/CR123 for it.
I bought one recently. The threads to open and close the battery housing were very rough and gritty. At one point the aluminium chips and dust generated from opening and closing the pump caused the housing to jam halfway closed, although there was still battery contact with the circuit. Upon further inspection, opening and closing the device resulted in a huge amount of aluminium debris being generated. Aluminium dust is very flammable, and I am worried that generating a flammable material inside an electrical device that is blowing a lot of oxygen past it, while inflating flammable mats and pillows inside flammable tents is a recipe for disaster.
I have one. I can confirm the weights are slightly dishonest. It’s still packable. I like it tho, not just for mattress but for getting small twig stoves lit. Very handy capability not just luxury.
I have this. It shares same battery with my flashlight so it was a good choice for me. It fills my mat well, I barely can reach this pressure with a bag (the bag tube just disconnects at lower pressures, someone needs three hands to inflate that way). I can inflate a bit more with lungs, but i am not sure it is proper to inflate the mat like a drum.
Didn't carry pump nor sack before they invented this. Now I do. Nozzles were huge factor. Think it's weird air blows past battery and wonder if dust will eventually fill the USB-c connector, but that's a tomorrow problem, not a today problem.
I use the Zero Pump nozzle's loop to secure it to the main body. My Tiny 2x's pitch/tone bothers my ears quite a bit (I'm a musician and I find it quite obscene to be frank... and my cat can't stand it), but I was pleasantly surprised that my Zero's didn't... It's much quieter and softer in pitch/tone. * My pads needed a blow from my mouth to top off firmness after both pumps... but I doubt by the little ones needed, there would be mold consequences. I would definitely say the two have different gearing purposes: Don't carry a type of torch = Tiny 2x Carry a torch and/or string-lights = Zero Pump. * If one just has the rechargeable batteries without the battery-port, battery compatible headlamps such the Fenix HM50R v2 should be able to substitute as a charging interface. P.s. i agree... things should be completely transparent when it comes to advertising specs etc.,
I think the pump just isn't for everyone. It does save every gram possible it seems, which requires a few compromises it seems. It has replaceable batteries, so people doing longer trips will like that, but it makes charging more difficult, etc.
I accidentally cross threaded it in the first 30 seconds. Basically destroyed the threads. Quality was very disappointing as was the advertise vs real weight.
Has anyone used this to deflate an Exped Megamat 15? I’m not worried about inflating with it. I just want to make it easier to pack up the mat by getting as much air out with just a pump.
I have seen quite a few reviews now on this gadget and only rarely people actually comment on the performance of it. How it does the job it was meant to do. IMHO it is just a luxury gadget when after inflation you still need to add air orally to bring it to the desired pressure for good comfort thus inserting moisture. The tiny pump has more psi. As influencers we may not get sponsored by the manufacturers but we want to stay friends with them also, don't we? If you do a whole video about a product like this, at least embrace all the specs.Thank you
The Zero pump does roughly 1/2 the psi of the 2X pump. Either way they all pump up enough where we do not add more air manually. We usually let a bit of air out to soften the pad once we lay down but that is personal preference.
Does it work with swim gear ? I don’t see that small pointy nozzle with it like the x2 .. also does it come with at least one rechargeable battery cz I’m confused about this 😊
Hi my question is will it fully the pad. Does it auto shut off or it charge sound when it can on longer add air I am not sure about this product. At the end of the day fighting with a pad is not something I want to do Thanks for the demo also can it be recharged with a battery bank. JoP
What is your thoughts on how weight is being advertised on backpacking gear?
I got one of these because I found it extremely difficult to inflate my Exped mat with the pump sack inside the MSR Hubba 1 person tent. Pressure could be a little higher for my taste, but it inflates the mat just about hard enough for me to not touch the ground when lying on the side. The rechargeable battery easily lasts for a one week solo hike. For longer hikes, I‘d rather use a top quality disposable battery. (Over 1500 mah as compared to the 650 of the rechargeable one)
I suggest folks who own this lubricate the aluminum threads with pure beeswax as it will stop the threads grinding together. Also be very careful not to cross thread the endcap as the aluminum is somewhat soft. What really drove me to purchase this device is that the battery is easily replaceable, making the product not only less disposable, but I can carry spare RCR123/CR123 for it.
Great tip!
I use nitecore silicon grease to lubricate the threads. (Just like my flashlights)
I bought one recently.
The threads to open and close the battery housing were very rough and gritty. At one point the aluminium chips and dust generated from opening and closing the pump caused the housing to jam halfway closed, although there was still battery contact with the circuit.
Upon further inspection, opening and closing the device resulted in a huge amount of aluminium debris being generated. Aluminium dust is very flammable, and I am worried that generating a flammable material inside an electrical device that is blowing a lot of oxygen past it, while inflating flammable mats and pillows inside flammable tents is a recipe for disaster.
Agreed. Those threads are a bit problematic.
Same. I used a grease.
I have one. I can confirm the weights are slightly dishonest. It’s still packable. I like it tho, not just for mattress but for getting small twig stoves lit. Very handy capability not just luxury.
Good to hear it is working well for you.
I have this. It shares same battery with my flashlight so it was a good choice for me.
It fills my mat well, I barely can reach this pressure with a bag (the bag tube just disconnects at lower pressures, someone needs three hands to inflate that way).
I can inflate a bit more with lungs, but i am not sure it is proper to inflate the mat like a drum.
Didn't carry pump nor sack before they invented this. Now I do. Nozzles were huge factor. Think it's weird air blows past battery and wonder if dust will eventually fill the USB-c connector, but that's a tomorrow problem, not a today problem.
I use the Zero Pump nozzle's loop to secure it to the main body.
My Tiny 2x's pitch/tone bothers my ears quite a bit (I'm a musician and I find it quite obscene to be frank... and my cat can't stand it), but I was pleasantly surprised that my Zero's didn't... It's much quieter and softer in pitch/tone.
* My pads needed a blow from my mouth to top off firmness after both pumps... but I doubt by the little ones needed, there would be mold consequences.
I would definitely say the two have different gearing purposes:
Don't carry a type of torch = Tiny 2x
Carry a torch and/or string-lights = Zero Pump.
* If one just has the rechargeable batteries without the battery-port, battery compatible headlamps such the Fenix HM50R v2 should be able to substitute as a charging interface.
P.s.
i agree... things should be completely transparent when it comes to advertising specs etc.,
I think the pump just isn't for everyone. It does save every gram possible it seems, which requires a few compromises it seems. It has replaceable batteries, so people doing longer trips will like that, but it makes charging more difficult, etc.
The Flextail Zero is over 2oz. with the battery and nozzle fitting... Its nonsense to rate a weight of a product dismantled just to gain attraction.
I accidentally cross threaded it in the first 30 seconds. Basically destroyed the threads. Quality was very disappointing as was the advertise vs real weight.
Has anyone used this to deflate an Exped Megamat 15? I’m not worried about inflating with it. I just want to make it easier to pack up the mat by getting as much air out with just a pump.
I have seen quite a few reviews now on this gadget and only rarely people actually comment on the performance of it.
How it does the job it was meant to do. IMHO it is just a luxury gadget when after inflation you still need to add air orally
to bring it to the desired pressure for good comfort thus inserting moisture. The tiny pump has more psi.
As influencers we may not get sponsored by the manufacturers but we want to stay friends with them also, don't we?
If you do a whole video about a product like this, at least embrace all the specs.Thank you
The Zero pump does roughly 1/2 the psi of the 2X pump. Either way they all pump up enough where we do not add more air manually. We usually let a bit of air out to soften the pad once we lay down but that is personal preference.
ive been using mine for a few months now and it's great. i love the new nozzles that fit the pad without holding it.
The newer nozzle material is nice. 👍🏻
And I thought I was the weight weenie…. To avoid cross threading I’ve lubed it with silicone grease.
😂
Great video!
I have both. The x2 is better. The zero pump will not fill my pad all the way.
Does it work with swim gear ? I don’t see that small pointy nozzle with it like the x2 .. also does it come with at least one rechargeable battery cz I’m confused about this 😊
It comes with a rechargeable battery but I would avoid this model unless you are thru hiking.
Hi my question is will it fully the pad. Does it auto shut off or it charge sound when it can on longer add air I am not sure about this product. At the end of the day fighting with a pad is not something I want to do
Thanks for the demo also can it be recharged with a battery bank.
JoP
It seems to do fine pumping up a pad all the way and you can notice a slight different noise when the pad gets full.
its amazing something so small can go for so long.(thats what she said)lol
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