Tesla are selling high profit foundry vehicles first. That will account for thousands of orders. There are a lot of well off people in America. So why build a lower profit base units for a year or two. Remember FSD is nearly all profit. Most telling, anyone else noticed that those who criticise Tesla have never actually achieved anything of merit. Certainly not to the scale, or speed of Tesla that's for sure.
My CT Tri Motor number is around 600K. Tesla is saying i should get mine sometime before the end of 2024 but i might pass on it depending on final cost because i have a feeling the prices will go down eventually probably by 2025! I believe they are trying to produce somewhere between 150-250K CT per year which im pretty sure they will.
I am reminded of the Pacific island population first encountered by Europeans, who explained the islander's counting system: "1, 2, lots!" That's it! Once you can make many, you can make lots. It's not going to be about production, it's about upcoming and sustained paying orders for vehicles.
I think once the parts are in place and suppliers have their ramped up inventory we will see about 100k in 2024. I think it's supplier inventory for why it's going to initially be a slow ramp but once the true conversion rate is established in the first 3 months we should see ramp increase 2fold min each qtr onwards.
I would estimate 100,000 as well. Zero Motorcycles putting their BEV system into Polaris Ranger UTV apparently as well which is how "normal people" make money in Industry. "Just sell the rights to your chemistry and engineering to the mass marketer." When Tesla says they want everything in house they really mean it apparently.
Don’t think many people will cancel. Second hand value is huge. The $80k truck will be a no brainer purchase for any comersial operator. Running costs will be 20% of an ice truck with no downtime for service. No oil, no brake pads,no belts…..
@@markmiller8903- repair costs were actually high due to all of the repairs from collision/accident damage in their rental fleets… not from breakdown of the EV motor/technologies.
@@markmiller8903hertz roll their fleet over in two years, they are very sensitive to depresiation costs, and with the ever decrease in price and increase in new subsidies, depreciation kills their business model. Added to that repair costs of a Tesla for fender benders, sure are extra... But the main issue is depreciation.
I counted 12 CTs delivered at the delivery event. I ordered a new CT Dec 2, 2023, and the reservation number is 120,513,xxx. That's ~7.77 million higher than the reported CT reservation number one: 112,744,100. I called Tesla customer Service to see if the reservation numbering system had changed. His answer was that the RNs are for all tesla vehicles, including S3XY, not just for the Cybertrucks. So Tesla has over 7.7 million orders for all their vehicles?! Wow!! Time to buy more TSLA!
@@markmiller8903why? I love my MG 4 and I've run everything from BMC Mini 1000 to Audi Q7 with more bhp than artics I was in charge of. Not forgetting kit car GTM. You need to try one to make valid statements.
Not sure what planet you're living on tbh. Late, more expensive and still doesn't go as far as promised even with a chunk of the tray taken up with another overweight battery. How's the roadster going? FSD taxis etc etc etc.
Ya'll got what Elon said wrong. He said a couple years to be up to volume of 250K. That is approaching 5K per week. A few weeks into it we should see some number coming out. And they of course are going to be batched and shipped out. Exciting times! When se see hundreds at least a day coming out we can get excited about the volume.
Sandy M says current production is about 1 car every 60 seconds. It will take a small increase in speed to it down to 1 every 45 seconds . Telsa on this bases if working 20 hours a day. That close to 5 half a million per year. That's on production line The Model Y is made 4 production line at over a million per year . It take Telsa long to produce similar of Cybertruck s if the demand is there.
One of the reasons why 90% of lighting reservation holders cancelled the reservation (including myself) was for the price (not what it was promised). Same happened for the model 3 (50%). For the CyberTruck will be around 40%/50%, probably more...
@@vasil7410 For those cancelling will go alternative brands and to them false promises of Tesla tarnish it's brand image to a degree. RHD Model S and X also not delivered to UK, Aussie, ASEAN despite S being in production 10+ years
@@protagonist9716Almost 1 million sold in 2021. 1.3 million sold in 2022. 1.6 to 1.8 will be sold in 2023. Over 2 million will be sold in 2024. Sure, Tesla is tarnished.
Elon mentioned their installed production line was planned for 125000 annually. I believe they'll get close to that already in 2024, plus they will build another production line close to this one, within six months. Therefore making around 200K+ in 2024 doesn't sound that far-fetched no matter what people say. Depending on the positive feedback, they might build another production line in China and Europe during 2024 in order to fulfill the long order queue (as it will be most likely getting longer. I didn't even place an order yet and with me many folks who didn't even know that the CT existed.
They need to hit 200,000 in 2024. They need to be moving FORWARD. F150 sells 600,000 per year. If they plan to dominate the US auto market, they need to be on the scale of the model Y. More pickups sell in the US than mid size SUV’s.
Will you do an episode about Canoo. I have $100. down on the delivery van version but have no real idea if or when it will go into production or be available to the public. Thanks, George
Ask yourself how long it took to ramp production of Model Y at Berlin and Austin. These are the only numbers one can use to logically predict CT production numbers. How long did it take each of the giga-factories to reach 1,000 units per week? "I think..." is pure speculation.
I don't know what makes you think 50% of people will cancel their order... with the full self-driving feature and the price locked in for those who selected it it would be dumb to cancel because the full self-driving features not going to come cheap on the model 2... full self-driving on model 2 will be rental only basically because of the increase of price of FSD. At that point you could take the Cyber truck and put it directly on the Tesla taxi Fleet and have it make money for you passively...
Number of Model Ys being produced in Texas suddenly soaring as well. The new Kia EV (9?) is an absolutely amazing piece of machinery as well so not sure what Tesla is offering up at the moment besides volume production. The still ongoing capital expense which from appearances anyways is absolutely stunning to me is what is known in the business as *"sunk capital."* i remember getting laughed at for equating Giga-Texas to building a nuclear power plant but the math alone for such an undertaking is bleeding edge let alone trying to execute upon an ahem *"numbers game."*
Won't ever get here nor most other places around the world as it doesn't and won't meet pedestrian and collision safety design rules for crumple zones, emergency extraction or crash retrieval situations anywhere but in the USA. Bullet proof cars need special licenses and with upto 3mm stainless steal that weighs significantly more than general car metal panels of up to 1mm thickness. With good reason, general car panels bend and buckle to absorb some of the impact that would otherwise decapitate human limbs and tissue, just like a cybertuck would when you are hit by one with its 1.8mm thick frunk panel thats angled and strengthed to slice perfectly. Or when you head bounces off the dash airbag while the rest of your body is still moving forward at speed, because the truck is so rigid, theres not enough crumple zone to absorb the impact and slow you down sooner, so you head and body take up the slack. But you never know what might happen, they continue to sell zero star safety rated cars like the MG5 and Mahindra in Australia so you might be lucky, and also get lucky if it's less than $200K i would suggest if they want 100k+ in the states, i would rather a nice hydrid BMW M6 for that sort of money cause you ain't taking that to the farm, just as the cyberpunk will never see anything but bitumen and sealed roads for 99.9% of their combined time they all last. I would be surprised that if by 2035 any of the original electric vehicles will be on the roads and we will be dealing with the toxic waste from this first generation of them that we are unleashing now. Just as plastic bags where supposed to stop the deforestation of the planet, because we all used paper bags, hang on is it groundhog day? and the cashless system works so amazingly well with superb security, unless you get scammed. And cards and paywave systems are so much more convenient and the way of the future forever until there's a cyclone, or power failure, or cyberhack that takes out the phone system of 1 of the 2 monopoly companies that operate tax free, for say 10 hours. Or when you are driving your electric car down the motorway and it detects that you tired and pulls over and won't start again for a designated 2hours, even if your on your way to hospital with your pregnant wife who is in labour who has been up all night and you with her. We look back as we get older and go, mmm maybe we should of thought about the things that could go wrong instead of not believing anything bad could happen. Surely digging into the ground 4 times as much with the same polluting mining equipment isn't offset by relocating 80% of a products pollution to an area less directly populated with humans, at this time in history. Give it 20 years I'm sure there will be plenty more people everywhere to enjoy the excess waste of a privileged few, from a costly experiment, both monetary viewed within the government/tax payer funded incentives funding, that not free or cheap. And enviromental cost, such as retrofitting concrete and metal buildings and carparks to deal with not only charging issues but weight and safety hazard control issues as has been seen lately with electric vehicle fires that are diffucult to deal with and cause huge distruction. I would love to see and Apple for Apple comparison about same aged vehicles and incidents of fires, would more new ICE vehicles have catastrophic, disruptive and destructive outcomes than equivalent and comparable numbers of EV vehicles, from drivetrain malfunctions? And what will these battery cars be like in 15-20years times, the average length of time a vehicle stays on the road during its life time and will it still charge or will it need a second or 3 rd battery by then. ICE cars don't generally need 2/3 fuel tanks or even entire engines in their life cycle, even if they are not cared for and are abused. Don't think you could ever treat a cyber truck like a real working pick-up and expect it to last longer than 5 years well maybe the body will cause at least it won't rust, dont know about the rest of the parts though?
Is there a reason to believe the company that ramped the 3 to 5,000/week in less than a year can't do the same with the Cybertruck? Elon might have just learned and be trying to set expectations low.
Yes. On one hand, Model 3 was produced with benefits, and was a highly demanded vehicle; on the other the Cybertuck is made at loss, the demand will fall due the mismatch between what was promised and what is delivered (in both stats and price) and finally because with the size of their batteries they could produce two smaller cars sold at profit. The Cybertruck is the Tesla equivalent of the SpaceX Starship: a not needed product poorly designed which diverted large amounts of capital sin a side project in a moment in which the competition is starting to pull ahead (look at BYD or the Koreans).
@@dadman9492 You mean like when we were to land humans on Mars on 2022? Or like when we were able to buy the Roadster 2 in 2019? Or have a full auto pilot and robotaxis circa 2015? Or maybe fleets of Tesla semis in the road in 2020? How badly you think "Cybertruk is going to tail" will age compared to those other disasters and snake oil seller lies?
Probably will be bagged for this but from a safety aspect I think the Cybertruck is crazy. Too many idiots on the road now. Why would you want to give more of them a 3000kg missile. Saying that. Already plenty of ridiculously heavy vehicles in the US. Glad it's not coming to Australia. At the moment at least.
Shorter delivery times = more Osborning effect. Elon is allready sandbagging the reveal of the compelling 25K$, to avoid crashdown of M3 demand, but has a hard time hiding his exitement and pride, over the new car. And remember he has alleready tested the new car, and knows excactly how the market will react, and that the orders will reach 2-5 million within a short period of time. To meet that demand, Tesla at least has to produce the compact model, beginning right now in both Austin, Berlin, Shanghai and maybe Mexico a year later, as in Q4 2025. Dont expect Tesla to startup M3 lines in Austin or Berlin, as Shanghai would easily manage the diminished demand of M3, when M2 is available. Might come sooner as anyone expects, and advertising and a reveal show is obsolete, as production capacity will not reach the huge pile of orders, in the first couple of years after startup. Tesla will face two demand problems in the years to come: Not producing Cybertrucks and Compacts enough, to meet sales.
Cybertruck didn't come for years it was announced in 2019; It is crazy spin to try and say it is going well. Ford got their f150 EV out in one year after annoucement and put out 1500 a week starting the first week. A Cybertruck with the original 16% more energy dense 4680 will never happen because Tesla cancelled it after years of trying; they had to downgrade to a 10% more dense 4680b so Cybertruck performance is lower. They can't make these efficiently either so far. Only 50 cybertrucks Tesla says it made 20 million 4680b cells - if they are all good they can only make 16,000 Cybertrucks, if most are bad it will be far less than that for months. Elon Musk suggest 12-18 months to have a full production line working - but that is Elon talk for "if everything goes just right"
Thirty cars in the car park ? Wow. Amazing numbers. Mind you Elon promised us 500 mile range when Cybertruck was launched and he said the experts claimed that was impossible.
Tesla took so long to release the Cybertruck that I had to fix up my old Toyota. Now my Toyota is back to new status. I will keep my Cybertruck reservation for the future release since it’s not available right now.
@@NomiSan521 At the rate of advancement in battery technology and the current cost of this battery, I would not have it on my shortlist for purchase. Maybe in 5 yrs. Strange that you thought of share price .
@@pedrod2186 its not made for purchase yet, it will be rent only for the time being. if you want to wait 5 years to buy a car with high capacity battery, have fun waiting
I wonder how long it will take Tesla to back out of the exoskeleton design. I can't see the vehicle going anywhere shackled to this dubious construction method. I don't think it will scale well and it is almost certainly more dangerous for passengers, pedestrians and occupants of other vehicles in an accident. Note: 1. Despite Tesla's assurances on safety, I expect the Cybertruck to slice through lightly built vehicles and human bodies in collision situations. Lets hope that all Cybertruck buyers pay for the FSD option. 2. I also expect Cybertruck passengers to undergo greater shock force in collision situations. The tough exterior stainless steel will likely compromise the normal operation of crumple zones. There is risk of brain injury due to excessive shock force in this situation.
It's not an exoskeleton design. It's just a unibody design like most other cars but with some sloppy stainless steel sheets wrapped around it. Another failed promise by Musk.
European safety regulations will probably bann CT from entering european market. It is after all dangerous to other cars, their passengers and pedestrians in collisions.There are no true crumbling zones in CT.
@@itchynackers I clearly stated that I saw the construction method as doubtful not a proven lemon. But the reasons to suspect that there will be issues are obvious. Stainless steel isn't a ductile material. Tesla is inviting problems by trying to work with it in a mass production context. Tesla may be locking itself into a slow lane for Cybertruck production - it's anticipated annual volumes do suggest that - out of keeping with its accererated vehicle production achievements. Now, structurally stiff materials do not deform in the same way as materials that more easily undergo elastic or plastic (or other forms of) deformation. Why is it that you think we use pneumatic tyres rather than steel wheels on road going cars? And even tyres themselves without air in them (properly bonded together and tethered) are a preferable thing to collide with than steel guardrails - that is a fact that informs the design of all modern racing tracks. You evidently have missed the evolution of the safety helmet. They are extraordinary achievements of materials engineering. They are no longer there just to stop your head from meeting foreign objects at speed. That proved to be an achievable objective but the hard shell approach to safety helmet design had a shortcoming. In many motorcycle accident situations, too much shock force was being transferred to the rider's head and brain damage was the result. Imperfect solutions to this problem have been discovered. The tough shell was resdesigned to offer more effective ways to dissipate impact forces and the lining became a serious area of research - the objective was to decelerate the driver's/rider's head more gracefully and thus avoid the sharp shock forces that were causing brain damage. Tesla's approach to Cybertruck safety seems to be to work hard on cabin/interior safety while throwing caution to the winds with exterior surface design. Typically, interior and exterior safety features will work in concert for road and race track going vehicles, but not for the Cybertruck. No, the Cybertruck designers, evidently, were happy to see more impact force transferred to the cabin and then to deal with it using admittedly well considered interior safety features. But why go this Jekyll and Hyde route to safety. Surely not for the sake of bulletproof panelling. But, that is the only significant gain here and that signals a fixation that has insinuated itself into the Cybertruck's design not a well considered design feature. Anyway, new EV startups have started to look at better ways to make pickups. It's a pity that Tesla compromised its effort. And, that is the problem here, a compromise that detracts from a pickup design that is otherwise better than everything that is currently out there.
The current design of the Cybertruck is a failure as a truck. Real truck people need range and a decent bed. A truck with only 300 miles of range is useless as a tow vehicle. A truck with a 4' bed is an oxymoron. I am deeply disappointed in Tesla. What happened to the production vehicle exceeding the prototype? I would gladly pay $120k for a 500 mile tri-motor cybertruck with a real bed. But this pathetic offering, shit! I will buy one but as a replacement for a subaru not a truck. How f'ing sad is that!
"A truck with a 4' bed is an oxymoron." I don't think you understand the definition of the word oxymoron. And the bed of the Cybertruck is six feet long, not four.
I think the real story is 4680 cell production. The 4680 production number are the statistics to watch.
Tesla are selling high profit foundry vehicles first. That will account for thousands of orders. There are a lot of well off people in America. So why build a lower profit base units for a year or two. Remember FSD is nearly all profit. Most telling, anyone else noticed that those who criticise Tesla have never actually achieved anything of merit. Certainly not to the scale, or speed of Tesla that's for sure.
This is the first close up of the Cyber Truck looks to be about 1.5mm / 1/16''. and that door post fit is amaaaazing. WOW!
no matter how many they make
the line will be out the door for a CYBERTRUCK
My CT Tri Motor number is around 600K. Tesla is saying i should get mine sometime before the end of 2024 but i might pass on it depending on final cost because i have a feeling the prices will go down eventually probably by 2025! I believe they are trying to produce somewhere between 150-250K CT per year which im pretty sure they will.
I am reminded of the Pacific island population first encountered by Europeans, who explained the islander's counting system: "1, 2, lots!" That's it! Once you can make many, you can make lots. It's not going to be about production, it's about upcoming and sustained paying orders for vehicles.
I think once the parts are in place and suppliers have their ramped up inventory we will see about 100k in 2024. I think it's supplier inventory for why it's going to initially be a slow ramp but once the true conversion rate is established in the first 3 months we should see ramp increase 2fold min each qtr onwards.
I would estimate 100,000 as well. Zero Motorcycles putting their BEV system into Polaris Ranger UTV apparently as well which is how "normal people" make money in Industry. "Just sell the rights to your chemistry and engineering to the mass marketer." When Tesla says they want everything in house they really mean it apparently.
What supplier inventory are you talking about?
Don’t think many people will cancel. Second hand value is huge.
The $80k truck will be a no brainer purchase for any comersial operator.
Running costs will be 20% of an ice truck with no downtime for service.
No oil, no brake pads,no belts…..
No transmission, no axles/driveshaft, no maintenance, no repairs, no rebuilds....
Hertz has refuted all your claims. EVS have higher running and repair costs. Plus the depreciation is huge.
@@markmiller8903- repair costs were actually high due to all of the repairs from collision/accident damage in their rental fleets… not from breakdown of the EV motor/technologies.
@@markmiller8903hertz roll their fleet over in two years, they are very sensitive to depresiation costs, and with the ever decrease in price and increase in new subsidies, depreciation kills their business model.
Added to that repair costs of a Tesla for fender benders, sure are extra... But the main issue is depreciation.
I counted 12 CTs delivered at the delivery event. I ordered a new CT Dec 2, 2023, and the reservation number is 120,513,xxx. That's ~7.77 million higher than the reported CT reservation number one: 112,744,100. I called Tesla customer Service to see if the reservation numbering system had changed. His answer was that the RNs are for all tesla vehicles, including S3XY, not just for the Cybertrucks. So Tesla has over 7.7 million orders for all their vehicles?! Wow!! Time to buy more TSLA!
Time to not buy an EV!! Nobody in their right mind would buy one!!
@@markmiller8903Are you joe biden?
@@markmiller8903why?
I love my MG 4 and I've run everything from BMC Mini 1000 to Audi Q7 with more bhp than artics I was in charge of. Not forgetting kit car GTM.
You need to try one to make valid statements.
Your reservation number doesn’t go down with time, does it? I bet it includes fulfilled and canceled reservations for all Tesla models.
@@markmiller8903ok cos I’m sure you’re an excellent guy to give advice right ? 😂
Ford preorders were canceled because of insane dealer added adjustment value. Dealerships are extremely greedy.
Model Y are being at rate 45 seconds approx per station apparently the cybertruck was at 60 seconds from MonroeLive observations… 800,000 units a year
Well I saw this coming Tesla has a habit to surprise the sceptics 👊🏻
5 years later, Big surprise.
Big giant surprise like Tesla Roadster 2.0
@@protagonist9716 As surprised as when we landed a man in Mars in 2022...
By Overpromising and underdelivering. lol
Not sure what planet you're living on tbh.
Late, more expensive and still doesn't go as far as promised even with a chunk of the tray taken up with another overweight battery.
How's the roadster going?
FSD taxis etc etc etc.
Told you Sam when Production gets ramped it will be faster than expected 👍
100,000 in 24. Ramp will go quicker than anyone is expecting. Watch.
Ya'll got what Elon said wrong. He said a couple years to be up to volume of 250K. That is approaching 5K per week. A few weeks into it we should see some number coming out. And they of course are going to be batched and shipped out. Exciting times! When se see hundreds at least a day coming out we can get excited about the volume.
Sandy M says current production is about 1 car every 60 seconds. It will take a small increase in speed to it down to 1 every 45 seconds . Telsa on this bases if working 20 hours a day. That close to 5 half a million per year. That's on production line The Model Y is made 4 production line at over a million per year . It take Telsa long to produce similar of Cybertruck s if the demand is there.
Munro is payd Teslabot that will say anything his master tells him to say.
One of the reasons why 90% of lighting reservation holders cancelled the reservation (including myself) was for the price (not what it was promised). Same happened for the model 3 (50%). For the CyberTruck will be around 40%/50%, probably more...
With 50% cancelling, that's still 1.1million orders. Far exceeding what they can actually deliver in the short to medium term.
@@vasil7410
For those cancelling will go alternative brands and to them false promises of Tesla tarnish it's brand image to a degree. RHD Model S and X also not delivered to UK, Aussie, ASEAN despite S being in production 10+ years
CT is well worth the price with many new technologies built in
@@protagonist9716Almost 1 million sold in 2021.
1.3 million sold in 2022.
1.6 to 1.8 will be sold in 2023.
Over 2 million will be sold in 2024.
Sure, Tesla is tarnished.
The Cyber truck does not have a dc solar charge port.
Elon mentioned their installed production line was planned for 125000 annually. I believe they'll get close to that already in 2024, plus they will build another production line close to this one, within six months. Therefore making around 200K+ in 2024 doesn't sound that far-fetched no matter what people say. Depending on the positive feedback, they might build another production line in China and Europe during 2024 in order to fulfill the long order queue (as it will be most likely getting longer. I didn't even place an order yet and with me many folks who didn't even know that the CT existed.
They need to hit 200,000 in 2024. They need to be moving FORWARD. F150 sells 600,000 per year. If they plan to dominate the US auto market, they need to be on the scale of the model Y. More pickups sell in the US than mid size SUV’s.
Will you do an episode about Canoo. I have $100. down on the delivery van version but have no real idea if or when it will go into production or be available to the public. Thanks, George
People not taking delivery or wanting the cyber truck is not increasing production numbers that’s just less people taking the car
The price is not going up, it is the value of the $ going down
Cheers mate
my guess is 20,000 in 2024
First to comment 😅 LOL..
Thanks for the video. 👍
Ask yourself how long it took to ramp production of Model Y at Berlin and Austin. These are the only numbers one can use to logically predict CT production numbers. How long did it take each of the giga-factories to reach 1,000 units per week? "I think..." is pure speculation.
I don't know what makes you think 50% of people will cancel their order... with the full self-driving feature and the price locked in for those who selected it it would be dumb to cancel because the full self-driving features not going to come cheap on the model 2... full self-driving on model 2 will be rental only basically because of the increase of price of FSD. At that point you could take the Cyber truck and put it directly on the Tesla taxi Fleet and have it make money for you passively...
But more Will order
What FSD ?
It's still only at Level 2 believe it or not !
For those of you who have to wait 10 years for your Cybertruck… remember, you will still be young- at heart.
I need the ramp for my four dogs.
I think 100,000 for 2024 and double in 2025 and 300,000 in 2026-production in China and maybe Europe by 2026???
Cybertruck will crush other cars and pedestrians in collision. It will not get a permission to enter european market..🤔
Lol
Portuguese did a cybertruck first. It was named UMM.
That thing looks more like a Jeep Wrangler
@AndyGKaufman ah, ah, ah
toughest thing on the road in the 80's and 90's. Only the PRV and diesel engines were weak.
Afternoon mate
Number of Model Ys being produced in Texas suddenly soaring as well. The new Kia EV (9?) is an absolutely amazing piece of machinery as well so not sure what Tesla is offering up at the moment besides volume production. The still ongoing capital expense which from appearances anyways is absolutely stunning to me is what is known in the business as *"sunk capital."* i remember getting laughed at for equating Giga-Texas to building a nuclear power plant but the math alone for such an undertaking is bleeding edge let alone trying to execute upon an ahem *"numbers game."*
How much is the cyber truck in Australia?
Won't ever get here nor most other places around the world as it doesn't and won't meet pedestrian and collision safety design rules for crumple zones, emergency extraction or crash retrieval situations anywhere but in the USA. Bullet proof cars need special licenses and with upto 3mm stainless steal that weighs significantly more than general car metal panels of up to 1mm thickness. With good reason, general car panels bend and buckle to absorb some of the impact that would otherwise decapitate human limbs and tissue, just like a cybertuck would when you are hit by one with its 1.8mm thick frunk panel thats angled and strengthed to slice perfectly. Or when you head bounces off the dash airbag while the rest of your body is still moving forward at speed, because the truck is so rigid, theres not enough crumple zone to absorb the impact and slow you down sooner, so you head and body take up the slack. But you never know what might happen, they continue to sell zero star safety rated cars like the MG5 and Mahindra in Australia so you might be lucky, and also get lucky if it's less than $200K i would suggest if they want 100k+ in the states, i would rather a nice hydrid BMW M6 for that sort of money cause you ain't taking that to the farm, just as the cyberpunk will never see anything but bitumen and sealed roads for 99.9% of their combined time they all last. I would be surprised that if by 2035 any of the original electric vehicles will be on the roads and we will be dealing with the toxic waste from this first generation of them that we are unleashing now. Just as plastic bags where supposed to stop the deforestation of the planet, because we all used paper bags, hang on is it groundhog day? and the cashless system works so amazingly well with superb security, unless you get scammed. And cards and paywave systems are so much more convenient and the way of the future forever until there's a cyclone, or power failure, or cyberhack that takes out the phone system of 1 of the 2 monopoly companies that operate tax free, for say 10 hours. Or when you are driving your electric car down the motorway and it detects that you tired and pulls over and won't start again for a designated 2hours, even if your on your way to hospital with your pregnant wife who is in labour who has been up all night and you with her. We look back as we get older and go, mmm maybe we should of thought about the things that could go wrong instead of not believing anything bad could happen. Surely digging into the ground 4 times as much with the same polluting mining equipment isn't offset by relocating 80% of a products pollution to an area less directly populated with humans, at this time in history. Give it 20 years I'm sure there will be plenty more people everywhere to enjoy the excess waste of a privileged few, from a costly experiment, both monetary viewed within the government/tax payer funded incentives funding, that not free or cheap. And enviromental cost, such as retrofitting concrete and metal buildings and carparks to deal with not only charging issues but weight and safety hazard control issues as has been seen lately with electric vehicle fires that are diffucult to deal with and cause huge distruction. I would love to see and Apple for Apple comparison about same aged vehicles and incidents of fires, would more new ICE vehicles have catastrophic, disruptive and destructive outcomes than equivalent and comparable numbers of EV vehicles, from drivetrain malfunctions? And what will these battery cars be like in 15-20years times, the average length of time a vehicle stays on the road during its life time and will it still charge or will it need a second or 3 rd battery by then. ICE cars don't generally need 2/3 fuel tanks or even entire engines in their life cycle, even if they are not cared for and are abused. Don't think you could ever treat a cyber truck like a real working pick-up and expect it to last longer than 5 years well maybe the body will cause at least it won't rust, dont know about the rest of the parts though?
You can buy cybertruck in Aussie by 2035 only in LHD without FSD but Half SD
fact checking required much?
If they switched to lithium magnesium iron phosphate things would ramp up quick
This is going to make lots of money for Tesla. I almost feel sorry for GM & Ford.
It took tesla 4 years to begin with. If you're waiting for 4 years for your reservation you might as well reserve the Cybertruck 2
Can’t wait till CT comes with an Optimus driver and personal assistant
They also sent out a Whole pile to their showrooms across North America.
Is there a reason to believe the company that ramped the 3 to 5,000/week in less than a year can't do the same with the Cybertruck? Elon might have just learned and be trying to set expectations low.
Yes. On one hand, Model 3 was produced with benefits, and was a highly demanded vehicle; on the other the Cybertuck is made at loss, the demand will fall due the mismatch between what was promised and what is delivered (in both stats and price) and finally because with the size of their batteries they could produce two smaller cars sold at profit. The Cybertruck is the Tesla equivalent of the SpaceX Starship: a not needed product poorly designed which diverted large amounts of capital sin a side project in a moment in which the competition is starting to pull ahead (look at BYD or the Koreans).
@@Buran01this will not age well
@@dadman9492 You mean like when we were to land humans on Mars on 2022? Or like when we were able to buy the Roadster 2 in 2019? Or have a full auto pilot and robotaxis circa 2015? Or maybe fleets of Tesla semis in the road in 2020? How badly you think "Cybertruk is going to tail" will age compared to those other disasters and snake oil seller lies?
Probably will be bagged for this but from a safety aspect I think the Cybertruck is crazy. Too many idiots on the road now. Why would you want to give more of them a 3000kg missile. Saying that. Already plenty of ridiculously heavy vehicles in the US. Glad it's not coming to Australia. At the moment at least.
Sure. A another factory will be built in the meantime
Please hurry up Tesla. Waiting for my truck years already.
I think 100,000 2024
10 cars a week they making now? Nothing good about that one would think they would of started higher then that
Follow up on this when Tesla is making 500 a week. Then 1000 a week. 4000 a week?
That is what Elon was referring to.
so elon haters despise this vehicle but they keep selling out.
2024 77,000, 2025 188,000
I assume Tesla is hiding its high CT production numbers to cause an element of surprise.
125k deliveries for 2024 & 250k every year after that
My 50 tsla shares will pay for my cybertruck in 4 years from now . I hope 😊
Dream on mate 🥲
@@raymondschembri5042 Maybe 5 yrs in 4 yrs he would have around 90-100,000
Sell them now. In 2024 they are going to drop like a bomb.
@@windsolarupnorth7084 Go back to bed.
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It's your money to lose.
100,000 for 2024
Shorter delivery times = more Osborning effect. Elon is allready sandbagging the reveal of the compelling 25K$, to avoid crashdown of M3 demand, but has a hard time hiding his exitement and pride, over the new car. And remember he has alleready tested the new car, and knows excactly how the market will react, and that the orders will reach 2-5 million within a short period of time. To meet that demand, Tesla at least has to produce the compact model, beginning right now in both Austin, Berlin, Shanghai and maybe Mexico a year later, as in Q4 2025. Dont expect Tesla to startup M3 lines in Austin or Berlin, as Shanghai would easily manage the diminished demand of M3, when M2 is available. Might come sooner as anyone expects, and advertising and a reveal show is obsolete, as production capacity will not reach the huge pile of orders, in the first couple of years after startup. Tesla will face two demand problems in the years to come: Not producing Cybertrucks and Compacts enough, to meet sales.
90% fORd cancel rate…😆
hey fans what car do you want
Cybertruck didn't come for years it was announced in 2019; It is crazy spin to try and say it is going well. Ford got their f150 EV out in one year after annoucement and put out 1500 a week starting the first week. A Cybertruck with the original 16% more energy dense 4680 will never happen because Tesla cancelled it after years of trying; they had to downgrade to a 10% more dense 4680b so Cybertruck performance is lower. They can't make these efficiently either so far. Only 50 cybertrucks Tesla says it made 20 million 4680b cells - if they are all good they can only make 16,000 Cybertrucks, if most are bad it will be far less than that for months. Elon Musk suggest 12-18 months to have a full production line working - but that is Elon talk for "if everything goes just right"
People 4get thos os a bullet proof truck competing with regular trucks for price
Thirty cars in the car park ? Wow. Amazing numbers. Mind you Elon promised us 500 mile range when Cybertruck was launched and he said the experts claimed that was impossible.
Cybertruck is at least 2 years late. How is that ramping faster than expected?
You are conflating two separate issues: (1) the date when production starts; and (2) how quickly production ramps up once it has started.
There was also this small event known as the Pandemic that shut down nearly everything for roughly 2 years?
Tesla took so long to release the Cybertruck that I had to fix up my old Toyota. Now my Toyota is back to new status. I will keep my Cybertruck reservation for the future release since it’s not available right now.
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Don’t believe anything Tesla says. Biggest story in EV right now is Li Bin live streaming the 150kwh battery.
New NIO battery is of academic interest until commercially viable.
@@pedrod2186 uninteresting cause you only care about current share price??
@@NomiSan521 At the rate of advancement in battery technology and the current cost of this battery, I would not have it on my shortlist for purchase. Maybe in 5 yrs.
Strange that you thought of share price .
@@pedrod2186 its not made for purchase yet, it will be rent only for the time being.
if you want to wait 5 years to buy a car with high capacity battery, have fun waiting
@@NomiSan521 I won’t wait - I will buy a Tesla - best BEV available
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Tesla using used batteries to meet demand. Tesla loves totaling cars with tesla insurance so they can use the batteries.
Just making shit up, are we?
@@eyesuckle is true
The mass-stupidity with these comments is astounding.
THE "DELORIAN" OF PICKUPS
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I wonder how long it will take Tesla to back out of the exoskeleton design. I can't see the vehicle going anywhere shackled to this dubious construction method. I don't think it will scale well and it is almost certainly more dangerous for passengers, pedestrians and occupants of other vehicles in an accident.
Note:
1. Despite Tesla's assurances on safety, I expect the Cybertruck to slice through lightly built vehicles and human bodies in collision situations. Lets hope that all Cybertruck buyers pay for the FSD option.
2. I also expect Cybertruck passengers to undergo greater shock force in collision situations. The tough exterior stainless steel will likely compromise the normal operation of crumple zones. There is risk of brain injury due to excessive shock force in this situation.
It's not an exoskeleton design. It's just a unibody design like most other cars but with some sloppy stainless steel sheets wrapped around it. Another failed promise by Musk.
It's made for the white Taliban's in US aka Rednecks
European safety regulations will probably bann CT from entering european market. It is after all dangerous to other cars, their passengers and pedestrians in collisions.There are no true crumbling zones in CT.
Jeez you must know more than all the hundreds of people working on it for years. Speculate much?
@@itchynackers I clearly stated that I saw the construction method as doubtful not a proven lemon. But the reasons to suspect that there will be issues are obvious. Stainless steel isn't a ductile material. Tesla is inviting problems by trying to work with it in a mass production context. Tesla may be locking itself into a slow lane for Cybertruck production - it's anticipated annual volumes do suggest that - out of keeping with its accererated vehicle production achievements.
Now, structurally stiff materials do not deform in the same way as materials that more easily undergo elastic or plastic (or other forms of) deformation. Why is it that you think we use pneumatic tyres rather than steel wheels on road going cars? And even tyres themselves without air in them (properly bonded together and tethered) are a preferable thing to collide with than steel guardrails - that is a fact that informs the design of all modern racing tracks.
You evidently have missed the evolution of the safety helmet. They are extraordinary achievements of materials engineering. They are no longer there just to stop your head from meeting foreign objects at speed. That proved to be an achievable objective but the hard shell approach to safety helmet design had a shortcoming. In many motorcycle accident situations, too much shock force was being transferred to the rider's head and brain damage was the result. Imperfect solutions to this problem have been discovered. The tough shell was resdesigned to offer more effective ways to dissipate impact forces and the lining became a serious area of research - the objective was to decelerate the driver's/rider's head more gracefully and thus avoid the sharp shock forces that were causing brain damage. Tesla's approach to Cybertruck safety seems to be to work hard on cabin/interior safety while throwing caution to the winds with exterior surface design. Typically, interior and exterior safety features will work in concert for road and race track going vehicles, but not for the Cybertruck. No, the Cybertruck designers, evidently, were happy to see more impact force transferred to the cabin and then to deal with it using admittedly well considered interior safety features. But why go this Jekyll and Hyde route to safety. Surely not for the sake of bulletproof panelling. But, that is the only significant gain here and that signals a fixation that has insinuated itself into the Cybertruck's design not a well considered design feature.
Anyway, new EV startups have started to look at better ways to make pickups. It's a pity that Tesla compromised its effort. And, that is the problem here, a compromise that detracts from a pickup design that is otherwise better than everything that is currently out there.
20,000 CT at most in 2024...lots of cancelations coming.
It is ugly inside and out, overpriced and useless.
1.7 billion people own iJunk get it probably not.
Throw a spare tire in there, which is extra, then look again.....@AndyGKaufman
The current design of the Cybertruck is a failure as a truck. Real truck people need range and a decent bed. A truck with only 300 miles of range is useless as a tow vehicle. A truck with a 4' bed is an oxymoron. I am deeply disappointed in Tesla. What happened to the production vehicle exceeding the prototype? I would gladly pay $120k for a 500 mile tri-motor cybertruck with a real bed. But this pathetic offering, shit! I will buy one but as a replacement for a subaru not a truck. How f'ing sad is that!
"A truck with a 4' bed is an oxymoron."
I don't think you understand the definition of the word oxymoron.
And the bed of the Cybertruck is six feet long, not four.
Doesn't change the fact this is an ugly car all around.
could dis charge a laptop or a sex toy ?
Say what?
Certainly could. Use the outlets in the beck left corner of the bed.
This is good stuff. 30 units already 18 days after the release💪
Almost two units a day. That is some serious massproduction🤡🤡🤡
They did not start coming out until 3 days ago.