Cult members sentenced for plotting to abduct a coroner in Essex

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  • @beeble2003
    @beeble2003 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Very surprised that the judge didn't pepper his remarks with "so-called". For example, describing these people as "sheriffs" working for a "court" really isn't accurate.

  • @Cherry-k5e
    @Cherry-k5e วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    So... they set up a non state court called themselves judge and sherriffs, had cars and hi vi's kit marked with their own 'authority stamps" , designed their own laws including the death sentence and corporal punishment , targeted a coroner (why we are not told) , sent malicious communications to him which he forwarded to council and police who did nothing turned up at coroners office looking for coroner who wasn't there , restrained a security guard , attempted to make a citizens arrest (viewed here as kidnap) threatened to turn up at coroners staff homes (causing them distress), and then presumably were arrested and charged .
    So they were activists which assumed their legal powers after? investigating a coroner and apparently his ' business' transactions . A coroners office investigates the circumstances of deaths , so what exactly are they accusing him of and , they're getting prison sentences for attempted kidnap and false imprisonment while trying as a group to exercise the power of citizens arrest . Quite interesting actually though the judge takes a grim view of them trying to circumvent crown justice .

    • @SuperLazyGarfield
      @SuperLazyGarfield 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      reported to metropolitan police who determined that it was for intelligence and push it aside 🤯

    • @DUCKDUDE4100
      @DUCKDUDE4100 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      It's sovereign citizen/freemen on the land nonsense. They don't recognise the legal authority of whatever country they're in and generally want to establish a new state based on religion and rules for thee but not for me "libertarianism".

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      They targeted the coroner because they believed he was a necromancer. They believed they were making some sort of citizen's arrest but they weren't: they had no lawful reason to detain anyone so it was straight-up kidnap.

  • @RaymondoGalfredi
    @RaymondoGalfredi 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

    Sov Cit nonsense has invaded the British Isles.
    Hand out those sentences judge.

    • @BdRisk
      @BdRisk 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The Judge was very patronising nutter. He spoke as though he was addressing teenagers.

    • @DUCKDUDE4100
      @DUCKDUDE4100 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@BdRisk he was speaking to crazy people who don't believe in authority, so talking to them like teens is pretty fair.

    • @qetoun
      @qetoun 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      They've been here for years mate.

    • @RaymondoGalfredi
      @RaymondoGalfredi 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@qetoun Now we know where they are going to be for a bit longer.

  • @laratheplanespotter
    @laratheplanespotter 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    This poor judge. Gets the best crazies out there. Feel sorry for the poor coroner too.

  • @peterchaloner2877
    @peterchaloner2877 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    "In legal language... made no sense." Aha.

  • @rsh793
    @rsh793 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I am always happy when the behaviour of some people confuses me - it proves I'm staying sane 😆

  • @columbmurray
    @columbmurray 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    What kind of idiot would pay this man money ! And his wife a successful university graduate ?

    • @haidershahid8810
      @haidershahid8810 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      whose like 7 years his senior he must be desperate !

  • @marklasy6209
    @marklasy6209 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    This is the weirdest shirt ever lol, what on earth did they think by doing this they were gonna achieve

  • @outlawJosieFox
    @outlawJosieFox วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I feel as though I need more explanation here. Wtf g'won ? 😮

    • @Epicurwat
      @Epicurwat วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sovereign Citizens. They say magic words and suddenly each one is Judge Dredd, in their heads. These ones decided to try to arrest the real law enforcement people which is mad.

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I'll bet good money they are anti vaxxers.

  • @Masud_S_Hoghughi
    @Masud_S_Hoghughi วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Get the king to testify

  • @isabelstokes4042
    @isabelstokes4042 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    The sentences are far too light.

    • @getwhatyougive
      @getwhatyougive วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      So dangerous, like murderers and rapists!

    • @userxyz64
      @userxyz64 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@getwhatyougiveyeah, dangerous in a different way mate!

    • @getwhatyougive
      @getwhatyougive วันที่ผ่านมา

      @userxyz64 the only danger he presents is to idiots who refuse to use critical thinking.

  • @danieljrpeters6637
    @danieljrpeters6637 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    What is this about? This is so confusing.

    • @francesbernard2445
      @francesbernard2445 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Crooks always manipulate and gaslight it that way to make the actual crimes to possess what they are after easier to do.

    • @davidwebster4287
      @davidwebster4287 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@francesbernard2445 So sort of conspiracy theorists who decided to kidnap and possibly kill a Coroner Possibly Sovcits. or British Trumpers.

    • @davidwebster4287
      @davidwebster4287 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Some not so.

  • @user-bu9nb8wr6e
    @user-bu9nb8wr6e วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    What is the cult?

    • @theredraven
      @theredraven วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Sovereign citizen movement.

    • @lauraarcher1730
      @lauraarcher1730 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@theredraven🙄🤦🏻

    • @johnfist6220
      @johnfist6220 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wynn_Miller

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Covid denying anti vaxxers.

  • @nataliegriffin7727
    @nataliegriffin7727 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Why the coroner though?

    • @theredraven
      @theredraven วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Because the nutters thought he was doing "necromancy".

    • @Thefan_Studio
      @Thefan_Studio วันที่ผ่านมา

      Presumably to forge their death certificates so they can't be tried for some case.
      Sovereign citizens are obsessed with maritime law and being 'a living person'

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Covid deniers.

  • @deepershade
    @deepershade วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Justice Goss doesnt half keep his cases full. First the 2 Lucy Letby trials, now a cult case. He clearly doesnt do easy lol

    • @johnfist6220
      @johnfist6220 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      He's sitting there thinking 'Why do they always give me the biggest nutters?'

    • @rsh793
      @rsh793 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@johnfist6220 lol he must wonder what he did in a previous life to get them - he's good though 😆

    • @haidershahid8810
      @haidershahid8810 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂😂😂😂​@@johnfist6220

  • @davidcooks5265
    @davidcooks5265 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What a waste of time 😵‍💫

  • @EmpressLeoX
    @EmpressLeoX วันที่ผ่านมา

    Death Vader X Darth Insidius X minions X the Joker

  • @obrien6320
    @obrien6320 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Does anyone know why they targeted the coroner ?

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      They believe that coroners "interfere with the dead" -- unclear exactly what they mean by that.

  • @Dollybird198
    @Dollybird198 วันที่ผ่านมา

    😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 how many times have they succeeded tho

  • @EmpressLeoX
    @EmpressLeoX วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s all my fault as always cowards

  • @flinchus
    @flinchus 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Im a sov'r'n citizen innit guvnor!

  • @savesoilmovement5635
    @savesoilmovement5635 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sky news confused 😐

  • @scottyenglish1567
    @scottyenglish1567 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Cult members being sentenced by the Royal courts of Justice. Ohhh the Irony 🧐….

    • @LeighRichards27
      @LeighRichards27 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      No irony. A publicly appointed judge rightly jailing dangerous cult members who made very serious threats against others.

    • @anonnona8099
      @anonnona8099 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @scottyenglish1567
      > Cult members being sentenced by the Royal courts of Justice. Ohhh the Irony 🧐….
      They used force to disrupt legal processes, and threatened the use of violence to achieve political aims
      They should have been tried for terrorism.
      And FGS can we please stop this "sentences to be served concurrently" nonsense, and make them consecutive.

    • @jujutrini8412
      @jujutrini8412 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Not really.

    • @userxyz64
      @userxyz64 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jujutrini8412Really!

    • @performanceartisthannah-ba7948
      @performanceartisthannah-ba7948 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      😂​@@LeighRichards27

  • @House0fHoot
    @House0fHoot 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Crazy grifters gonna grift crazily!

  • @jonathanhawke2995
    @jonathanhawke2995 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Isn't this an incorporated judge doing commerce from an incorporated court room not doing natural law but doing admiralty corporate legal??

    • @anonnona8099
      @anonnona8099 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @jonathanhawke2995
      > Isn't this an incorporated judge doing commerce from an incorporated
      > court room not doing natural law but doing admiralty corporate legal??
      No.

    • @itsmeagain7825
      @itsmeagain7825 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@anonnona8099thanks for the translation, all I read was "derp derp derp, derp derp, derp derp derp.....

    • @RaymondoGalfredi
      @RaymondoGalfredi 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      No.

    • @eddiem12eddiem12
      @eddiem12eddiem12 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I would just like to confirm, like some others..... No

  • @sosomadman
    @sosomadman วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sounds more like activists than cultists.
    A sheriff? Doesnt that make it paramilitary activity.
    Only £228 Gordon Bennett

    • @userxyz64
      @userxyz64 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nah, they don't appear to have the brains to be called activists. The Coroner's Court, ffs!

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The £228 is a statutory surcharge applied to almost all people convicted of crimes. It's not a punishment but is used to pay for services that support victims of crime. The punishment is being sent to prison for seven years in the case of the leader and 2.5 years for the others.

    • @userxyz64
      @userxyz64 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @beeble2003 thanks for that explanation.

  • @chrislambert9435
    @chrislambert9435 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Term "Cult" is usually used to just slur any group that is "not liked" by others, but can anyone tell me was this a Religious Cult ?

    • @sosomadman
      @sosomadman วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Probably don't want to name the *movement*

    • @dzgw
      @dzgw วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Name one group of people that are referred to as a cult as an unjustified "slur"

    • @JamesMc2051
      @JamesMc2051 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Pseudolegal, anti-government conspiracy theorists seems to be the more explicit terminology. The term cult, by definition, is a group of people who have a set of beliefs which are deviant from society or delusional, usually featuring a charismatic leader who preaches down to the rest of the cult (and often exploits them in various ways). Religious cults are a subsect of that.
      So - no - it's not a religious cult. It's a sovereign citizen thing.

    • @sosomadman
      @sosomadman วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@dzgw scientology

    • @anonnona8099
      @anonnona8099 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@JamesMc2051
      > it's not a religious cult. It's a sovereign citizen thing.
      Nobody said religious - just "cult". So let's see..
      "a group of people who have a set of beliefs which are deviant from society"
      Tick.
      > or delusional,
      Tick.
      > usually featuring a charismatic leader who preaches down to the rest of the cult
      > (and often exploits them in various ways).
      Tick. (Don't know about charisma, but he sure as hell exploited them.)

  • @slotsshowcase
    @slotsshowcase 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Something doesn't seem right here, there must be a reason why this person targeted the coroner and also managed to persuade a number of people including a university graduate and former special constable... There has been a number of other cases over the last few years where the courts have limited the information given to the public, this is wrong. I demand as a British Citizen to be given ALL the facts, otherwise the courts can just say anything they like and order the press not to publish anything, it just so happens that I will be taking Lewisham Council to court and all they have done is ignore my solicitor Peter Garsden. For me the council's, police and our judicial systems smells worse than rotten fish...