A couple of suggestions: of you find the girls getting behind your divider board, make another on that fits very snugly. Any gap big enough to squeeze through, they will and draw out Crazy Comb that you’ll have to get out. Waste of their energy and resources. Also, since you use thin lumber, think about a way to insulate it on all sides come winter. Great job! I built my own top bar hive one winter. TBHs are a bit of a time suck, and with a 3 hour commute, I kept falling behind on it so after the colony died off on the 3rd winter I gave it away.
Hey Thanks for the suggestions. You're not totally wrong about the division board. The girls have gotten behind it but they aren't building weird comb. It's WEIRDER!! They are carrying all the dead bees back there (insert shocking face emoji). Yeah, even bee parts!!. It's a graveyard. Ugh!! And as for winter insulation, ill be making a quilt box for the long hive much like the one I made for the standard Langstroth. Check out that video if you havent seen it. Never had a colony fail through winter.
SeedsandArrowsFrontier Ya know we did our annual hive inspection and frame reversal in the standard langstroth stack about 10 days ago and realized we don't have to do this in the horizontal.
I like this design. I made a video of a “horizontal long beehive design with the option to stack 8-frame supers”. You can do a search with those words between quotations to find the video on youtube. I think horizontal hives are the best.
Ok, so I appreciate your modification in putting the opening on the end. Looks effective. I wonder if it is worthwhile to cut and frame a queen excluder board? Divider board needs to fit to the walls and floors or the bees won't be divided...I just found this video and I loved it. Hope you make an update. Thanks for sharing.
Joseph Vogel Hi Joe. Ya know a queen excluder may not be necessary for this type of hive. From what I've been told, the queen only lays closer to the entrance. So she should keep her brood within the first 10 frames.
I been researching on horizontal hives and how to build them.This is well explained. However i feel that u should have put the entrances on the length side and not on the width side of the hive.In this case u would have three entrances each for each hive. Thanks alot for sharing this build
AMAZING WEBSITE DESIGNER Well actually this is just one hive for one colony. So about the entrance, I talked to a few others who built them and they highly recommended putting the entrance at one end so the queen keeps the brood closest here, avoiding splitting the colony that would happen if the entrance was on the side.
I like your long hive design It makes sense to me. I have seen some designs. I was asking myself What The hack where they think of. Thanks for share Your neighbor in Bethlehem, Pa. I hope to see more videos from you
Can you tell me your exact internal measurements of your horizontal hive please. I know I can look stuff up online but I would like to know yours. Just the width and length. I want to build one and would like to see if my numbers are correct
It doesn't look like it'd be hard to modify for flow frames in that back third, right? A shim on the wall to prevent bee space around the tap end of the flow frame and an access cutout on the outside. The bees should fill up the first two thirds then as the flow frames fill you can tap the excess honey off without disturbing them.
Ugh...so can we have an update on what happened? I noticed that your only other apparent bee video that I can see is a recent one where you are going with a different system. It's important to follow up on what happened even if it wasn't a success.
OK Sorry, I'm here. Been busy catching swarms (ill get THAT video up soon) So, the colony in this hive didnt survive. In Feb we found the queen dead and about 20 workers around her. Saw some workers with their heads deep into the cells (seems like starvation). We aren't sure if she never started laying again or the workers didn't make it to the frames with honey (had plenty of honey in there) It's our first hive failure since we started in 2016. Very disappointing.
I have a long hive on my list of things to make this winter. Yours if definitely a departure from the norm. I like the use of standard inner covers. Wouldn't it benifit your bees to have additional, controllable entrances? What about feeding? Do you have feeder top you can put on? I've never seen a long hive that didnt have an attached top.
Hey Tiller. So about the entrance, I decided on one entrance because Caroline and Scott said the queen will keep her brood closer to the entrance frames rather than spread out into the hive. This is good for separating the honey frames from the brood frames. And sure enough as the summer went on, we only saw brood frames closer to the entrance and honey near the back. We didnt use an excluder, As for feeding, I just use a boardman feeder at the entrance. Although, i could move the division board back some and place the feeder inside.
Thanks for the info on why you have single front/end entrance. I wont be using an excluded on my vertical hives and had concerns on using one in a horizontal hive. Given your results I believe that too will use a single end entrance. I just have to decide if it will have a pitched roof or flat. What was deciding factor in your roof choice?
@@tillerbeez6575 pitched ... Helps minimize ice buildup during freezing rains and also redoces snow buildup ... Also pitched gives you an insulating air gap ... Helps keep the heat in and a potential place for off season feeding ...
James Witte Ya know I've been thinking about permacell frames because they are pre-drawn frames that the bees only have to fill in with honey and then cap. But they only come in medium size. I'd like to have full size for brood.
I like them a lot as far as doing inspections and Honey harvesting. I think the next one I build I will use plywood for the telescoping cover. It’s lighter and cheaper. Also this year I’m going to build a queen excluder from the typical Langstroth plastic ones. I noticed last year that the queen went back a little further than I thought she would, laying eggs past 10 frames. I really want to try and confine her to the front 10.
@@selophane43 Why keep her in the front 10 frames? My concern is keeping her warm in my below zero winter weather. So I would need to keep her in the middle Also I would need thicker 3/4 inch wood so as to keep them all warm with a pitched roof and some sore of ventalation. so moister doesn't accumalate within their box. What is your thought on my idea?
@@cqammaz53 Oh, the queen excluder will be removed for winter, absolutely.The bees need to migrate back to where their food stores are. Something crazy happened back in Dec. During a strong wind storm, the lid blew off one of the Long hives and the bees were only covered by the quilt box above and a layer of cedar chips. The bees were exposed to the cold, rain, and wind for 3 days. But they are still alive and doing fine. I will feed them today. Warm temps. Check out my video of my quilt boxes. These are for controlling winter moisture and keeping heat.
Well how did it work out? I love working with wood and I really want to hear that this design actually worked out. So many videos showing how the build turned out but nothing to talk about the success or failure. I have a friend who loves his bees but cant lift much anymore. Was it worthwhile?
It’s working great. I just put up a video of me feeding them. I have two now coming through the winter. This year I plan on installing a queen excluder. This will be interesting because it will be installed vertical like the frames instead of on top of them. I will keep my langstroth equipment but only keep one going and build another horizontal.
M. Scott Hern You might be right about that also. Interesting I originally had the back of the hive facing the rising sun and the entrance facing away. Maybe some of the bees saw this light and thought it was the entrance only to figure out it's not and they trapped themselves in there. I eventually turned the hive around, mid summer.
MERRY CHRISTMAS, jist found yer channel an subbed,, how are the girls doing in this hive? this is what ai was thinkin bout buildin, thank you fer the video
russ sherwood Hey Russ. Overall it's been a mild winter so far but the girls are doing fine. They come out for poop flights when the temp get up to 50. The cedar chip quilt box I put o top really keeps them warm.
Sorry, I have some videos that were on private. They are now public. It's from the day I captured the swarm. We had a strange summer with the bees in this long hive. I captured the swarm from the one Langstroth in May and put them in here. About halfway through July they swarmed again, so we had less bees and no laying queen in there for a couple weeks. At extraction time early Sept, we only pulled out 4 full frames of honey.
Having the three standard covers instead of all the little slat boards is smart thinking.
Love your hive. Great American accent. '...the girls...'
A couple of suggestions: of you find the girls getting behind your divider board, make another on that fits very snugly. Any gap big enough to squeeze through, they will and draw out Crazy Comb that you’ll have to get out. Waste of their energy and resources. Also, since you use thin lumber, think about a way to insulate it on all sides come winter. Great job! I built my own top bar hive one winter. TBHs are a bit of a time suck, and with a 3 hour commute, I kept falling behind on it so after the colony died off on the 3rd winter I gave it away.
Hey Thanks for the suggestions. You're not totally wrong about the division board. The girls have gotten behind it but they aren't building weird comb. It's WEIRDER!! They are carrying all the dead bees back there (insert shocking face emoji). Yeah, even bee parts!!. It's a graveyard. Ugh!! And as for winter insulation, ill be making a quilt box for the long hive much like the one I made for the standard Langstroth. Check out that video if you havent seen it. Never had a colony fail through winter.
Well done brother!You have Golden hands!Like from Russia!!The Crimea!!!
I just found your channel! Im weighing the options of the horizontal vs vertical. Staying tuned for more videos.
SeedsandArrowsFrontier Ya know we did our annual hive inspection and frame reversal in the standard langstroth stack about 10 days ago and realized we don't have to do this in the horizontal.
I like this design. I made a video of a “horizontal long beehive design with the option to stack 8-frame supers”. You can do a search with those words between quotations to find the video on youtube. I think horizontal hives are the best.
Ok, so I appreciate your modification in putting the opening on the end. Looks effective. I wonder if it is worthwhile to cut and frame a queen excluder board? Divider board needs to fit to the walls and floors or the bees won't be divided...I just found this video and I loved it. Hope you make an update. Thanks for sharing.
Joseph Vogel Hi Joe. Ya know a queen excluder may not be necessary for this type of hive. From what I've been told, the queen only lays closer to the entrance. So she should keep her brood within the first 10 frames.
I been researching on horizontal hives and how to build them.This is well explained.
However i feel that u should have put the entrances on the length side and not on the width side of the hive.In this case u would have three entrances each for each hive. Thanks alot for sharing this build
AMAZING WEBSITE DESIGNER Well actually this is just one hive for one colony. So about the entrance, I talked to a few others who built them and they highly recommended putting the entrance at one end so the queen keeps the brood closest here, avoiding splitting the colony that would happen if the entrance was on the side.
@@selophane43 Well understood.Thanks
I like your long hive design It makes sense to me. I have seen some designs. I was asking myself What The hack where they think of. Thanks for share Your neighbor in Bethlehem, Pa. I hope to see more videos from you
Did not mention the sizes, Most important info.
Can you tell me your exact internal measurements of your horizontal hive please. I know I can look stuff up online but I would like to know yours. Just the width and length. I want to build one and would like to see if my numbers are correct
Ok. I’ll get back to you.
It doesn't look like it'd be hard to modify for flow frames in that back third, right? A shim on the wall to prevent bee space around the tap end of the flow frame and an access cutout on the outside. The bees should fill up the first two thirds then as the flow frames fill you can tap the excess honey off without disturbing them.
Nice! I’m looking through plans to build one of these right now, but don’t have a lot of faith in my woodworking skills...
You should check out ( Horizontal Hive.com) they use the Larger Layens but they have free instructions and plans including pattern for cuts.
Ugh...so can we have an update on what happened? I noticed that your only other apparent bee video that I can see is a recent one where you are going with a different system. It's important to follow up on what happened even if it wasn't a success.
OK Sorry, I'm here. Been busy catching swarms (ill get THAT video up soon) So, the colony in this hive didnt survive. In Feb we found the queen dead and about 20 workers around her. Saw some workers with their heads deep into the cells (seems like starvation). We aren't sure if she never started laying again or the workers didn't make it to the frames with honey (had plenty of honey in there) It's our first hive failure since we started in 2016. Very disappointing.
With the net at the bottom, bees have no loss of pollen from their legs
Ola Portugal. Minha mãe é de Portugal. 🇵🇹
Thanks for sharing
nice job
..gonna build one now too! Tx.
I have a long hive on my list of things to make this winter. Yours if definitely a departure from the norm. I like the use of standard inner covers. Wouldn't it benifit your bees to have additional, controllable entrances? What about feeding? Do you have feeder top you can put on? I've never seen a long hive that didnt have an attached top.
Hey Tiller. So about the entrance, I decided on one entrance because Caroline and Scott said the queen will keep her brood closer to the entrance frames rather than spread out into the hive. This is good for separating the honey frames from the brood frames. And sure enough as the summer went on, we only saw brood frames closer to the entrance and honey near the back. We didnt use an excluder, As for feeding, I just use a boardman feeder at the entrance. Although, i could move the division board back some and place the feeder inside.
Thanks for the info on why you have single front/end entrance. I wont be using an excluded on my vertical hives and had concerns on using one in a horizontal hive. Given your results I believe that too will use a single end entrance. I just have to decide if it will have a pitched roof or flat. What was deciding factor in your roof choice?
@@tillerbeez6575 pitched ... Helps minimize ice buildup during freezing rains and also redoces snow buildup ... Also pitched gives you an insulating air gap ... Helps keep the heat in and a potential place for off season feeding ...
James Witte Ya know I've been thinking about permacell frames because they are pre-drawn frames that the bees only have to fill in with honey and then cap. But they only come in medium size. I'd like to have full size for brood.
Where did you cover?
How is this hive holding up 2 years later?
Fantastic. We have two now. Pulled much honey out this season and management was SO much easier than lifting heavy langstroth deeps.
How do you like your horizontal beehive? Would you change anything with your design?
I like them a lot as far as doing inspections and Honey harvesting. I think the next one I build I will use plywood for the telescoping cover. It’s lighter and cheaper. Also this year I’m going to build a queen excluder from the typical Langstroth plastic ones. I noticed last year that the queen went back a little further than I thought she would, laying eggs past 10 frames. I really want to try and confine her to the front 10.
@@selophane43 Why keep her in the front 10 frames? My concern is keeping her warm in my below zero winter weather. So I would need to keep her in the middle Also I would need thicker 3/4 inch wood so as to keep them all warm with a pitched roof and some sore of ventalation. so moister doesn't accumalate within their box. What is your thought on my idea?
@@cqammaz53 Oh, the queen excluder will be removed for winter, absolutely.The bees need to migrate back to where their food stores are. Something crazy happened back in Dec. During a strong wind storm, the lid blew off one of the Long hives and the bees were only covered by the quilt box above and a layer of cedar chips. The bees were exposed to the cold, rain, and wind for 3 days. But they are still alive and doing fine. I will feed them today. Warm temps. Check out my video of my quilt boxes. These are for controlling winter moisture and keeping heat.
@@selophane43 Those darn queens do what the want.
Well how did it work out? I love working with wood and I really want to hear that this design actually worked out. So many videos showing how the build turned out but nothing to talk about the success or failure. I have a friend who loves his bees but cant lift much anymore. Was it worthwhile?
It’s working great. I just put up a video of me feeding them. I have two now coming through the winter. This year I plan on installing a queen excluder. This will be interesting because it will be installed vertical like the frames instead of on top of them. I will keep my langstroth equipment but only keep one going and build another horizontal.
Can you tell me your exact internal measurements of your horizontal hive . Thanks
Ok. The inside measurements are 47.25” long, 10.25” tall, 18.45” wide
@@selophane43 Thanks
@@banditva8040 I'm using 3/4" thick wood by the way.
Would the bees not get through the gap at the bottom of the dividing board
That was my thought. Division board should seal all the way around. Looks great other than that. May want to consider an entrance reducer also.
Yeah you both are correct. I didn't build the division board big enough so the bees snuck through and dumped their dead bees there. Very odd.
@@selophane43 or they crawled back there didn't find their way out and died.
Easy fix now you know, i think people watching and commenting helps improvements. Good luck and i dhall keep watching from New Zealand
M. Scott Hern You might be right about that also. Interesting I originally had the back of the hive facing the rising sun and the entrance facing away. Maybe some of the bees saw this light and thought it was the entrance only to figure out it's not and they trapped themselves in there. I eventually turned the hive around, mid summer.
Where are you located ? I’m in Montco .
Delco Yo.
MERRY CHRISTMAS, jist found yer channel an subbed,, how are the girls doing in this hive? this is what ai was thinkin bout buildin, thank you fer the video
russ sherwood Hey Russ. Overall it's been a mild winter so far but the girls are doing fine. They come out for poop flights when the temp get up to 50. The cedar chip quilt box I put o top really keeps them warm.
@@selophane43 ya its been cold where ai at,, betting a storm till tomorrow am expectin 8ins. snow an cold thank ya fer the video
Wont the aluminum overheat the hive in summer??
Dawn Boyer Actually it reflects the sunlight better than just white paint. So it stays cooler. But most important it resists rotting.
hows the hive in action ?
Sorry, I have some videos that were on private. They are now public. It's from the day I captured the swarm. We had a strange summer with the bees in this long hive. I captured the swarm from the one Langstroth in May and put them in here. About halfway through July they swarmed again, so we had less bees and no laying queen in there for a couple weeks. At extraction time early Sept, we only pulled out 4 full frames of honey.
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What do you do?or are you buying?
BEEKEEPER GYURZA Hello Gyurza. I am a school teacher. 20 years. I teach students how to build things.