Nobody gaf these dudes aint special that whole make believe beef they wanted so bad started because of egos. Its a million more mfs from the hood with the same names.
@@Godloveszazayes but what are the chances of to rap groups from 2 different coasts having the same names? We are not talking just one name but 2 names. That is beyond just a coincidence. Mobb Deep clearly copied their names. 😂
I remember buying Mobb Deep's cd and was like huh? There's already a Havoc and Prodigy (SCC) period. And the SCC had two members named Havoc. It would have been hard if both groups had done a song together tho.
Haven't seen these brothas since the 90s. It's always a shocker to see artist you grew up on looking so much older lol. I remember they had a song with the Chi-lites I believe. It was cool seeing old school and new school collaborate. But now they both old school.
It's also a shocker to see artist you grew up on look exactly the same. They did an interview with Kane from menace and he still looks the same. In the meanwhile I grew from a baby to a 35 year old
The same case with Memphis and Bone Thugs N Harmony. Everybody claim they had style before, but both came out the same year with triplet flow and harmonies
I'm no expert on Memphis but I don't think they had the harmony. They only had the dark beats with that distinct flow. Do you happen to know which one was that Memphis song which is credited as the first of it's kind. It was by DJ something....
You are confusing them with Do OR Die from Chicago… they are the ones that sounded more like Bone. Crucial Conflict also from Chicago sounded similar to Bone. It was more of a Cleveland vs Chicago rivalry.
@@apocalipsdoebermen8376 its today. Back then every major local name has own productions equal to own style like DJ Squeeky, DJ Sound, Blackout, SMK, etc.
Mobb Deep we’re probably 14-15 stealing cassettes from the store and came across S.C.C and thought they could take their names and nobody would notice.
@@jesset2504I believe it was someone at Def Jam that told him to use that name. SCC was also at Def Jam around this time. A lot of artist get their names and persona/image from the labels that want to sign them.
Thats a helluva coincedence to have a rap group at the same time with 2 unique names. Even though they were on opposite coasts they still had dealings with Def Jam. I always thought when Mobb Deep got the name from when they was about to sign to Def Jam but that deal went sour then SCC went over to Def Jam. So just like WWE wrestling when you leave for WCW they creating the charactor/name so they keep it and can give it to someone else.
I got love for both camps and i love appreciate the music on both sides. South Central Cartel definitely hit nationwide with the names first. Their videos was on The BOX way before Mobb Deep. And i love The Mobb, Affiliates, Queens all that
@@thecardbunker801 well my pop is the biggest mobb deep fan of alltime and he told me SCc had a havik and a prodeje well before mObb deep came out. I luv P too tho rip. But scc my Niggas too
Respectable men the way they handled the interview. I highly doubt that Mobb Deep stole they names, just a wild coincidence. Unfortunately, Produgy and Havoc from Mobb Deep most likely made better music so they got the fame and notoriety around the world
Wish someone told 15 yr old me after i took 3 buses to pickup mobb deeps havoc and prodigy. On the bus home listening im like wtf theyre east coast now??
I’m from Chicago mess with both groups heavy. I knew a SCC way before Mobb Deep. I remember in some interview a long time ago Havoc from Mobb Deep said he and P had different names originally.
@@snubdawg1386 you know with this biggie and notorious b1 shit and puffy being pointed to as the one who directed biggie for that whole thing i am wondering now if puffy might have told hav and p to change their rap names. he told mobb deep to change the poetical prophets name so idk. im not sure if there is any other proof of them having the names havoc and prodigy while they were the poetical prophets besides havoc saying they did. as far as industry plants? nah, prodigy had a good family tree and so did nas.
@@fleamarketmixtape3793Prodigy wasn’t even from Queens Bridge Projects like Havoc was. Prodigy met Havoc in art school in Manhattan. Prodigy was a great talent with undeniably great skills but faked that whole hood persona of a tough thug. It’s why I believe he copied the name because he created a fake persona for his rap career.
In 1991 prodigy from Mobb Deep was going by the name Lord-T. And SCC already had an album out that year. Lol Prodigy wasn’t even from Queens Bridge Projects like he claimed throughout his career. Prodigy built a career and legacy off of false stuff. Mobb Deep was definitely dope and had a much more successful career but they are copycats nonetheless. 🤷🏿♂️
On some Hip Hop, if the essence would have came into play on some let’s battle on the mics and ones & twos for the name…….. I’ll let you finish the thought 💭
I think most of us are pretty familiar with Mobb Deep, duo out of Queens, New York. But were you aware of another duo with nearly identical stage names, but on the other coast? Havoc and Prodeje were members of the South Central Cartel but broke away to do some work apart from the group. Livin' In a Crime Wave is their debut from 1993. Definitely has that West coast sound, bit of g-funk. I wouldn't call it a classic like The Infamous -- nowhere near as good, but a pretty good album. Doing some quick googling, it seems the West coast duo may have had their names a few years before Havoc and Prodigy of Mobb Deep did! Just a funny coincidence though, huh? I'm sure they were aware of one another to some degree...
Even if they did take their rap names, the group “mobb deep” went wayyyyy further than “south central cartel” and if they had it first, they aint go THAT far with it 🤷🏽♂️
Even though South Central cartel and mobb deep have the same names but then again you have to think everybody kind of had the same name back then. Just think about it you have two drains one from the east coast and one from the West you've also got like two havocs scratch that make that three havocs And you've got like three prodigies you got young prodigy you've got the late great prodigy and you've got big prodigy. Just like the same thing with the rbl posse and Big Daddy Kane's DJ (mr c ) they got the same name. Just like how association member Hitman there's been a lot of people using the word Hitman a lot. So technically it don't make no difference if people got the same name. I mean everybody uses the word little everybody uses the word big all the time. Just like you got big L Big Pun biggie smalls Just like people using the name Richie Rich. You've got Richie Rich from the legendary West Coast group dream team you got DJ Richie Rich from 3rd Bass and then you've got Richie Rich from 415. Everybody uses the same name. Just like everybody has the same name as Dre. I mean you got Dre spelled D R A y from Das EFX You've got West Coast Dr Dre you got East Coast Dr Dre you got Andre 3000. You've got Mac Dre And there's another thing people using the word mack too Like you got Craig Mac Mac dre And just like everybody uses the word DJ as there name too. Same thing. DJ quik DJ Yella DJ Hollywood DJ two tough DJ jazzy Jeff There was a problem with the jazzy Jeff name. There was exactly two jazzy Jeff's one from the fresh Prince and the other from funky 4 + 1 more And even though people uses the word Prince as well to.
@@taydibiase she’s buggin and you’re buggin . They will never even come close to Mobb Deeps Level. NEVER.. matter of fact, there rhymes are garbage , they shouldn’t even be in the same sentence as Mobb, and are not even relevant
All I have to say is this SCC Big Prod and Havik was the original ones with that name. SCC album was out way before mobb deep.
Nobody gaf these dudes aint special that whole make believe beef they wanted so bad started because of egos. Its a million more mfs from the hood with the same names.
@@Godloveszazayes but what are the chances of to rap groups from 2 different coasts having the same names? We are not talking just one name but 2 names. That is beyond just a coincidence. Mobb Deep clearly copied their names. 😂
@@Godloveszazawho wanted a make believe beef?
Mobb deep a great rap duo these guys are cornballs
@@henrycruz4966you ah cornball
Listen to both groups everyday
SCC was on “Tales from The Hood Soundtrack”
I remember buying Mobb Deep's cd and was like huh? There's already a Havoc and Prodigy (SCC) period. And the SCC had two members named Havoc. It would have been hard if both groups had done a song together tho.
SCC also had 2 Prodeje’s.
I wanted 2 know about this great interview man !!!
Haven't seen these brothas since the 90s. It's always a shocker to see artist you grew up on looking so much older lol. I remember they had a song with the Chi-lites I believe. It was cool seeing old school and new school collaborate. But now they both old school.
It's also a shocker to see artist you grew up on look exactly the same. They did an interview with Kane from menace and he still looks the same. In the meanwhile I grew from a baby to a 35 year old
“It’s an SCC thang”. There is 2 versions I believe. One on “Murdersquad” one on “N Gatz we Truss”
The same case with Memphis and Bone Thugs N Harmony. Everybody claim they had style before, but both came out the same year with triplet flow and harmonies
I'm no expert on Memphis but I don't think they had the harmony. They only had the dark beats with that distinct flow.
Do you happen to know which one was that Memphis song which is credited as the first of it's kind. It was by DJ something....
@@space_dogg Psycho Split Personality, Skinny Pimp Everything Is Business, The Serial Killaz
Styles and names are two different thangz tho….
You are confusing them with Do OR Die from Chicago… they are the ones that sounded more like Bone. Crucial Conflict also from Chicago sounded similar to Bone. It was more of a Cleveland vs Chicago rivalry.
@@apocalipsdoebermen8376 its today. Back then every major local name has own productions equal to own style like DJ Squeeky, DJ Sound, Blackout, SMK, etc.
Big Prodeje (of S.C.C) & Havoc (of Mobb Deep) would make a damn good collaboration. They both great producers and Rap/Hip-Hop artist.
not really. Mobb deep was 10 times better.
That’s a fact. Some great beats could have came out of that collab had mobb been mature enough to pay homage to
@@MrParker-ux2mh Big Prodeje and Havoc can still actually do an album together. Years has past and they both seasoned veterans in Hip-Hop/Rap.
@@Mr.Majestic77 📠
It's a shame that south central cartel doesn't get recognized like they should
They. Only. Had. A few songs
I like. Scc. But. They. Aint. No. Infamous mobb deep
RIP to Young Prodigy of Mob deep 😢😢😢😢😢😢.
Shout out to Mr. Havoc of the deep.
Shout to scc members : big prodigy and lv.
Since 1989 way before mobb deep. got 5 colabs with Prodeje Of South Central Cartel he a true pioneer
Shit, NY Niggaz will steal your spit and said it came out of their mouth. Most of those thirsty, hungry ass Niggaz are the worst.
Mobb Deep we’re probably 14-15 stealing cassettes from the store and came across S.C.C and thought they could take their names and nobody would notice.
@@jesset2504I wouldn’t doubt it.
@@jesset2504I believe it was someone at Def Jam that told him to use that name. SCC was also at Def Jam around this time. A lot of artist get their names and persona/image from the labels that want to sign them.
Thats a helluva coincedence to have a rap group at the same time with 2 unique names. Even though they were on opposite coasts they still had dealings with Def Jam. I always thought when Mobb Deep got the name from when they was about to sign to Def Jam but that deal went sour then SCC went over to Def Jam. So just like WWE wrestling when you leave for WCW they creating the charactor/name so they keep it and can give it to someone else.
SCC members had their names before any dealings with Def Jam. Def Jam didn’t create the names for SCC.
SCC was out before mobb deep. respect to them both tho. It’s old and played. RIP PRODIGY
Aint nothing like genuine Old school cats in the rap game giving props to each other 👏🏾
I got love for both camps and i love appreciate the music on both sides. South Central Cartel definitely hit nationwide with the names first. Their videos was on The BOX way before Mobb Deep. And i love The Mobb, Affiliates, Queens all that
There’s no way in the world two separate groups could choose the names havoc and prodigy . That’s ridiculous RIP P
Exactly 100%. Makes zero sense. Rip Prodigy the goat. These guys are clowns. Bozos & were scared of little guys with Sickles lmao
@@thecardbunker801 well my pop is the biggest mobb deep fan of alltime and he told me SCc had a havik and a prodeje well before mObb deep came out. I luv P too tho rip. But scc my Niggas too
its all documented 1989
@@thecardbunker801 SCC was before them and it’s hilarious to think they’d be scared of mobb deep like that😂. Stop talkin goofy.
@@thecardbunker801scared LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
💪🏽Gang👌🏽
Respectable men the way they handled the interview. I highly doubt that Mobb Deep stole they names, just a wild coincidence. Unfortunately, Produgy and Havoc from Mobb Deep most likely made better music so they got the fame and notoriety around the world
The fact you bring your opinion of music, exposed your perspective being tainted.
Coincidence huh? You a whole clown.
No. Whoever told Prodigy to call himself Prodigy knew about SCC because Havoc always called himself Havoc. Tragedy gave Hav his name.
No coincidence
@@apocalipsdoebermen8376exactly! They copied SCC.
Some bad coincidence and good interview. RIP P.
Rest in Peace to Prodigy, but Mobb Deep ain't got shit on the SCC
Wish someone told 15 yr old me after i took 3 buses to pickup mobb deeps havoc and prodigy. On the bus home listening im like wtf theyre east coast now??
💪🏾💯
Havoc and Prodeje formed the year 88...they the first with the names
Juvenile Hell dropped in 93, sooooo SCC wasn't out that long or known on the East for Hav and Pee to jack their name 🤷🏽♂️
i don't want to believe it but there are a few things that indicate that they were industry plants
I’m from Chicago mess with both groups heavy. I knew a SCC way before Mobb Deep. I remember in some interview a long time ago Havoc from Mobb Deep said he and P had different names originally.
SCC dropped South Central Madness in early 92
@@snubdawg1386 you know with this biggie and notorious b1 shit and puffy being pointed to as the one who directed biggie for that whole thing i am wondering now if puffy might have told hav and p to change their rap names. he told mobb deep to change the poetical prophets name so idk. im not sure if there is any other proof of them having the names havoc and prodigy while they were the poetical prophets besides havoc saying they did. as far as industry plants? nah, prodigy had a good family tree and so did nas.
@@fleamarketmixtape3793Prodigy wasn’t even from Queens Bridge Projects like Havoc was. Prodigy met Havoc in art school in Manhattan. Prodigy was a great talent with undeniably great skills but faked that whole hood persona of a tough thug. It’s why I believe he copied the name because he created a fake persona for his rap career.
they both started in 1991 but scc album came out first
In 1991 prodigy from Mobb Deep was going by the name Lord-T. And SCC already had an album out that year. Lol Prodigy wasn’t even from Queens Bridge Projects like he claimed throughout his career. Prodigy built a career and legacy off of false stuff. Mobb Deep was definitely dope and had a much more successful career but they are copycats nonetheless. 🤷🏿♂️
On some Hip Hop, if the essence would have came into play on some let’s battle on the mics and ones & twos for the name…….. I’ll let you finish the thought 💭
Big Shouts Out To The Culture
FIRST 🙌🥇
Is that emmitt smith on the far right?
I think most of us are pretty familiar with Mobb Deep, duo out of Queens, New York. But were you aware of another duo with nearly identical stage names, but on the other coast? Havoc and Prodeje were members of the South Central Cartel but broke away to do some work apart from the group. Livin' In a Crime Wave is their debut from 1993. Definitely has that West coast sound, bit of g-funk. I wouldn't call it a classic like The Infamous -- nowhere near as good, but a pretty good album. Doing some quick googling, it seems the West coast duo may have had their names a few years before Havoc and Prodigy of Mobb Deep did! Just a funny coincidence though, huh? I'm sure they were aware of one another to some degree...
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Even if they did take their rap names, the group “mobb deep” went wayyyyy further than “south central cartel” and if they had it first, they aint go THAT far with it 🤷🏽♂️
ifw tha infamous MOBB hella heavy But I'll never Deny SCMadness or kickin game..and those came way B$ that 95 Infamous Mobb Deep album
Even though South Central cartel and mobb deep have the same names but then again you have to think everybody kind of had the same name back then.
Just think about it you have two drains one from the east coast and one from the West you've also got like two havocs scratch that make that three havocs
And you've got like three prodigies you got young prodigy you've got the late great prodigy and you've got big prodigy.
Just like the same thing with the rbl posse and Big Daddy Kane's DJ (mr c ) they got the same name.
Just like how association member Hitman there's been a lot of people using the word Hitman a lot.
So technically it don't make no difference if people got the same name. I mean everybody uses the word little everybody uses the word big all the time.
Just like you got big L Big Pun biggie smalls
Just like people using the name Richie Rich.
You've got Richie Rich from the legendary West Coast group dream team you got DJ Richie Rich from 3rd Bass and then you've got Richie Rich from 415.
Everybody uses the same name.
Just like everybody has the same name as Dre.
I mean you got Dre spelled D R A y from
Das EFX
You've got West Coast Dr Dre you got East Coast Dr Dre you got Andre 3000.
You've got Mac Dre
And there's another thing people using the word mack too
Like you got Craig Mac
Mac dre
And just like everybody uses the word DJ as there name too.
Same thing.
DJ quik DJ Yella
DJ Hollywood
DJ two tough
DJ jazzy Jeff
There was a problem with the jazzy Jeff name.
There was exactly two jazzy Jeff's one from the fresh Prince and the other from funky 4 + 1 more
And even though people uses the word Prince as well to.
Theres two Dr. Dre's and the one used to interview the other lol. Mobb Deep is lucky they didn't get gatz they truss or yheyd been took out.
Rip prodigy but NY wtf y’all gotta say about this BS 🤣
There is only 1 Prodigy and Havoc .. and that’s Mobb Deep
@@aprilrains518 you’re buggin
@@aprilrains518 he wanna deny it yet there way older then mob deep
The west runs deep lol
@@infiniteg7852 she aint bugging. anybody who was active in the 90s know scc was out with 2 havocs and prodejes before anyone ever heard of mobb deep
@@taydibiase she’s buggin and you’re buggin . They will never even come close to Mobb Deeps Level. NEVER.. matter of fact, there rhymes are garbage , they shouldn’t even be in the same sentence as Mobb, and are not even relevant
These dudes really think they were known in NYC hoods? I ain't from NYC but c'mon, man.
California got the most strict gun laws. More then nyc
In the End mobb deep. Won
Non-originals
Third
There is only 1 Prodigy and Havoc... and that’s Mobb Deep
No one ask you !
@@cripsgangpitic1 it doesn’t matter . It’s my comment, in relation to the video … now , kick rocks… and it’s “ASKED you” not, Ask..
You Mobb Deep groupies is soft AF, you be playing video games and all this soft shit. Sitchoass down lil boy
@@infiniteg7852 calm down neckbeard
Obviously it’s not due to the context of the interview…or one can take it as a game of word play…but hey that’s your truth tho!!
Prodigy from mobb deep was lying all the time