Wu Tang Clan not only produced some of greatest MC’s of all time, but beats and lyrics were crazy. No one heard anything like it before, it was very smart. NWA was the first gangsta rap group to hit it hard, with F the police. They were controversial and because of their lyrics, the US government took issue. Both groups are very influential for what they did for rap music.
NWA was the first crew to boldly deny government oppression and paved the way for some upcoming artists, but lyrically, You won't deny Wu Tang's witty wordplay. It's like Steve Jobs introducing the touchpad phones and Graham improving telephone use after the two people who invented the telephone and left the job undone. who should get more credit?
I'm Brazilian and the N.W.A helped a lot in contributing to Rap and Hip-Hop culture due to its similarity with the police violence we suffered. I will be eternally grateful to the late Eazy-E
I've always been deeply in the Shaolin flicks since a small child, before i arrived at Hip Hop...so imagine my delight when i first heard Wu... It was ❤ at first sight
I was 11 years old in 1988 and I left Eazy’s “Eazy Duz It “ tape in our tv/living room stereo system that went all through the house. One night my parents had their friends over for dinner and they put the music on and all I heard was “Lay down and unbottom your bra,there were the biggest titties that I ever saw” and I was like “FUCK”. I definitely got in trouble for that one and my mom broke that tape in front of me.
@@iLuseMy1v1s LMFAO. My mom was like “Where did you get that from,who gave you that tape?” Of course I lied and said someone at school but it was my older cousin who was 14-15 at the time but I wasn’t going to rat him out. I had 2 Live Crew tapes with S&M,Fuck shop and Too Short tapes hidden also. I’m glad that I didn’t have 2 Live Crew S&M in the stereo then because that would of been really bad lol. My mom was/is really cool so she didn’t trip over it that bad. When I was 15-16 my mom would catch a chick in my room in the morning and tell us to wait to leave cause my dad was still in the house but he was leaving soon. My mom would cook breakfast for me and the girl that spent the night. I have a really cool mom. As long as my grades were good,which they always were. Until my last semester of my senior year in high school because I had already gotten accepted to college and I received a academic and athletic scholarship so my parents really couldn’t say shit. That last semester did drop my cumulative GPA but whatever I didn’t care by then b
@@iLuseMy1v1s Man. Every time I hear a track especially if I haven’t heard it in a while it always brings me back. Just the other day I heard Sade’s “By your side “ which is one of my favorite songs ever it brought me back to my freshman year in college. I love music bro. All kinds,besides country. I tried to get into it but it’s just not me. I love 1960’s music like the Beatles,Stones,Doors. 1970’s like Pink Floyd,Steve Miller,80’s like Guns N Roses,Motley Crew,90’s like Alice In Chains,Tool,Soundgarden,Pearl Jam,Sonic Youth and that list goes on forever almost. For me the 90’s had the best music from every genre in my opinion. Hip hop was amazing during that time. Just look at all the dope artists who came out during that time period like Big(who is my favorite rapper ever),PAC,Nas,Jay,Eminem,Dre,Snoop,Cube and on and on. That is my era ,I’m Gen X,so I’m probably biased but the 90’s will always be the best era for music in my opinion
Wu-tang was like school man. It’s bigger than the music, the álbuns. Their story and how they became that group is so freaking rare that they needed a philosophy behind it so strong that it became bigger than anyone has ever done in the industry. For that reason I’m going with the Wu
The editing is top notch, the question is so hard, i honesty don t know how to even make comparisons between the two groups, they both have all it takes to be the best group in hiphop and one of the best groups in music history, sometimes i lean towards the psychopathic subject matter of wu tang and other times i do lean towards nwa
As a 13 14yr old kid from Texas, Eazy E We Want Eazy & NWA Straight Outta Compton made me gravitate to the West Coast sound as my rap preference. Not until my mid 30s did the Wu grew into me. Now they're all over my playlist.
@@navjitbassi03Liquid Swords and Cuban Linx are better albums than the Chronic or 2001, though Dre had more "hits". Then there's Ghostface's ridiculous catalogue.
@@allanokeefe104 i prefer 2001 and chronic. Most people would prefer it aswell based on sales. Hip hop nerds who over analyse lyrics would prefer wutang. But the average person who just likes good music would prefer those other albums
I'm a life long WU baby!!! I am definitely influenced by NWA but WuTang guided me, educated me, entertained me, and gave me a blueprint for conducting myself. NWA spoke to things that I already knew/was aware of. For that I am grateful for NWA. However, the impact of WuTang on my life is immeasurable
Love NWA but you gotta be real, they were a flash in the pan compared to Wu's longevity. I'll never forget running up my mom's cable bill playing Triumph on repeat on The Box😂 that video had me in a chokehold! Been a die hard Wu head ever since
6:21 The best answer! 🔥❤️ I was blown away by NWA back in the early 90's and absolutely burned my walkman with Straight outta CPT and EFIL4ZAGGIN 💥🔥 But when 36 Chambers came out it was definitely something new. Them dudes were different on a dope and cool af way, they killed it. I love both groups ❤️
6:28 Pusha T's reaction was like he was talking to the ancestors Biggie, Big L, JMJ , 2Pac and ODB (all legendary NY M.C.s) like Black Panther did and they told him the culture is Wu Tang while NWA actually hurt Hip Hop!
I love both groups, but if I have to choose it's the Wu. Not only did they make music, they had a group symbol/insignia, they were successful with the Wu Wear and opened stores not only in the states, but around the world. They're the only group I can recall who you can identify with just a symbol. When they changed their names to mafioso monikers a lot of other rappers followed suit. They were the first group to sign their individual artists to all different labels. They had a video game Shaolin Style on PS1. They have multiple documentaries, books, and a series that was streaming on major platform.(Hulu). They have a myriad of artists/groups that branch offf of the main Wutang Clan. Sunz of Man, Killa Army, Trife da God to name a few. Not to mention not only do they have fans stateside, but worldwide.
I’m from SoCal and I still go Wu-Tang all day. I think it’s a generational thing though. I was born in 84 and NWA came out in 87. Wu came out in 93 and touched my soul. By that time Dre and Snoop were going at Eazy and vice versa which was dope too.
Nwa only had cube and ren doing the main writing. Cube wrote for Eazy e . Wu tang has multiple skillful rappers that made great music and classic albums , wu clearly the better group
@@Normperson101 Schoolly D started gangsta rap. Nwa learned from Ice T . And wu did different types of songs too it wasnt always gangsta music . Wu is better
@@Normperson101 that’s true and nwa got it from ice t . Ice t brough gangsta rap to the west before nwa but yes nwa was the first group. Nwa made it global but ice t inspired them
Yes respect for NWA for being the pioneers of the game but let’s be honest WuTang had everything you need in one group. Beats, Women, Fashion, made Being Nerdy cool with kung fu flicks, politics, math, religion, etc., being from the hood. They was on a whole different level. WuTang is still doing concerts till this day even lost ODB (RIP) and NWA not doing concerts without Eazy (RIP) love NWA but the Wu is the best group of all time.
You dam sure right, I was already a fan of kungfu fu flicks and when wutang clan came out with kungfu, hot 🔥 beats and rhymes man I almost went fool, I ain't putting know hip-hop group over Wutang, now next to wutang I think I would have to pick mobb deep
Wu tang had one good album then they had a few good songs nwa had concerts still especially after the movie for the new fans even after the wu tang documentary wu tang remained the same as far as popularity
There will most definitely be a Wu without NWA they looked up to New York rappers and saw that as competition not NWA. And they had three successful Wu albums and got countless solo albums from every wu member that are bangers.
@@DannyBoi93 Porque escribes eso si Wu-tang ni siquiera rapeaban al estilo gangsta de nwa, Wu-tang trajo su propio estilo de rapear y aun que hay respeto por NWA por ser uno de los pioneros, pero wu popularizo el rap gringo a nivel mundial a gran escala y lo otro salio con uno de los mejores albumes del rap de la historia como el enter de wu-tang de hecho en todos los top del mundo que hacen de discos del rap esta ya sea de 1ro a 5to y de alli no baja de hecho todos los temas de ese album se popularizaron, y si uno se pone a contar hit es literalmente lo mismo, wu-tang debe ser facil el grupo de rap con mas cantidad de hit en su repertorio.
The only people who would find this hard to answer are people from Cali. I’m saying that, I’m from Cali and Wu Tang’s skill is so far above NWA they aren’t in the same universe.
NWA is not two rappers. It was two writers...Cube and Red and sometimes DOC.... But Dre, Cube, Run and EaZy all rhymed. It was something about Eazy's voice on a record
This is a tough one, it’s going to come down to biases because these 2 groups can’t be compared. They both are originals and changed the hip hop culture forever. It’s a push… but for me it’s THE CLAN bec I’m from where they from and they just the best at everything.
Yup that’s prob the ultimate decision breaker one group had a ghost writer. The other group just chatted and smoked out ideas and inspired each other but didn’t write for each other
It's hard to choose, but the way i see it is N.W.A was an important introduction of rap/hiphop to the world or when rap become more visible to the world and wu tang perfected but tastes are relative
@@deryckcumberbatch3629 I know cause that shit doesn't sell. Can't nobody in Wu Tang fuck with OUTKAST PERIOD!!!! 🐐 Method Man the only one who music sell PERIOD and protect your neck that shit was stupid and wack. Face it it's over for New York all that Curtis Blow ass bullshit.3000 & Big Boi on another level and you know it.
@@jeremiahpolk8908 say no to drugs. Hip hop is not about popularity it’s a way of life. Outcast can’t f with Wu. Man talking out records sales. Hip hop is dead. Now it’s about money.
@@deryckcumberbatch3629 Look man Bar for Bar Wu Tang can't touch them and I like The clan , come on man ODB Was trash , Ghostface,Method Man and Raekwon the only one's successful. If it wasn't for Method Man it would be over for them. Big Boi would slaughter them by himself. 3000 it wouldn't even be fair even Celo Green could go toe to toe.Even New York said it first it's all about money ain't a damn thang funny " Grand Master Flash and the Ferious Five. e"
Do you remember where you were and what you were doing the 1st time you heard that beat come in?...WDF is this?.. and then that verse kicks off -"I smoke on the mic like smokin' Joe Frasier - the hell raiser - raise hell with the flavor" .....Wu-Tang, hands down.
How about "I bomb atomically"? I'll never forget being at my cousin's house in hot ass Moreno Valley watching Triumph with my mouth wide open. I had NEVER heard or seen anything like that!
I like both ... a lot. I have to go with Wu-Tang Clan. The tie-breaker is that I've seen them in concert. A bunch of times... and they're still out there rocking. Not many people can say they've seen NWA live in concert.
It's Wu for me. I loved the shock value of NWA when I was a kid (stole my brother's tape when I was 9) but Wu was a whole movement, the music, the samples , the aliases, the beats, the rhymes, the aesthetic, the grittiness, the slang, the clothing, the video games, the references, the science, math, philosophy, politics etc all interwoven into the wordplay. Wu will always be the dopest group in the world to me
Ummm nwa wasn’t a movement? Lol. Gangsta rap is still here today. Nobody I rapping about the circumference of the earth, moon, and sun. It Didn’t age as well.
@@mikeg4960 No NWA wasn't a movement, they were part of one for sure but they weren't their own wave like Wu. Ice T, Schooly D and others predate NWA as far as gangsta rap goes.
@@mikeg4960Exactly NWA spawned artists like Pac, snoop, Bone thugs, Eminem, 50 cent. Only Method Man was successful with one movie partnered with Redman
N.W.A. Released 2 studio albums and 2 EPs. Largely without radio play or support from TV stations such as MTV, BET, VH1, etc and yet they are still regarded as one of the most influential and top rap groups of all time. NWA got banned for doing gangsta rap. They didn’t get the exposure Wu-tang got nor did they last as long as a group as Wu did. For those reasons, I’m going to say NWA.
@@MADMANCMTB honestly, I’m not a huge wu-tang clan fan. Other than their major hits “ain’t nuthing to fuck with” , “C.R.E.A.M” , “Triumph” , and “Gravel pit”, I don’t know much about them as a group. So i still say NWA
TECHNICALLY YOU ARE WRONG CUZ I GREW UP IN THAT ERA AND THEIR VIDEO STRAGHT OUTTA COMPTON WAS ON EVERY VIDEO PLATFORM INCLUDING MTV . HOW DO YOU THINK THEY GOT THAT ATTENTION AND GOT BANNED FROM VIDEO PLATFORMS . . . OUT WEST ON KDAY , THEY WERE BEING PROMOTED LIKE AIR JORDANS SO YOU MOST DEFINITELY WRONG ON THAT
I remember when NWA came out, everything changed overnight. So for that alone I have to give their due props and will always respect what they did. If we are talking about what I still listen to today and still holds up the best, I gotta go with Wu Tang. Wu was another major turning point of note in hip hop and no less influential, they took that NWA torch and absolutely ran with it in a whole new way.
Yeah boring songs lol none of their singles made the top 50 lol CREAM was their most successful at 60 while millions others went to #1 and won Grammy’s
@@LALakers4life34 you seem to be conflating chart rank with its worth and that has been proven time and time again to not be true at all. Influence and impact rarely is recognized or acknowledged in the moment.
@@LALakers4life34 Grammys don’t mean nothing. U on nwa meat. Wu is the better group , nwa had broken up because of a Jew 😂. A Jew could never break up the wu . Stop glazing nwa
@@LALakers4life34 Record producers and execs award what increases their bottom line not what is best artistically or quality wise. "If your record goes platinum it has nothing to do with luck, it just means a million people are stupid as fuck." Immortal Technique
Wu-Tang revolutionized the hip hop industry when they started blowing up. From creating a logo that would be used and licensed still to this day, to branching out to different businesses (eg. Wu-Wear, Killah Koffee, Hastoria, Bomb Atomically IPA, etc) and more importantly, paving the way and making the blueprint for other groups to be able to do individual shit and still come together as a group. Their longevity proves how influential they still are. #WutangIsForTheChildren
@@TheEugeneKyu Nobody in the video mentioned branding or based their choice on "licensing". It's about impact and imprint on the hip-hop landscape. NWA left big footprints in the game.
@@TheEugeneKyu When was the Wu last hit, club-banger? ...I'll wait... Dre ain't gotta tour- you bought his headphones Cube too busy wit the Big 3 and movies Ren fell off like 7 or 8 of the Wu did And E is dead, jus like ODB. So whas yur point?
Growing up in the 90’s and living in LA (North Hollywood), NWA was an amazing group to listen to, but my life changed musically when I first heard Wu-Tang Clan. I choose the Witty Unpredictable 👐🏽
54 years old here. I remember the impact NWA had on me when i first heard them. It was a shock, they can say this & that? Lol. They looked gangster! No filter and angry. Suited me to a tee lol. But Wu, Made me spazz out! Wtf is this!!? 9 emcees and can all spit!!!? Rza's beats blew my mind apart! Lol. Wu changed my life forever. Wu for me but respect to NWA.
NWA is the most influential rap group ever tbh. They commercialised gangster rap with Eazy E, which is literally 80% of all rap music, and without Dr Dre thered be no Snoop, Ice Cube, Pac (deathrow era), Eminem, 50, Game, Kendrick.
eso de la comercializacion e influencia fue mas una influencia territorial de California es en el territorio gringo, pero fue wu-tang quien popularizo el rap gringo a nivel mundial y los que influenciaron al mundo a hacer rapero, si era cosa de ver cualquier pais de latinoamerica lo primero que se veia escuchando Wu-Tang y usando sus prendas, de hecho en latinoamerica fuera de wu , lo 2do mas escuchado no era nwa era cypress,2pac o notorious nada mas
Wutang easy because it meant alot more for me. 36 chambers is how i learned english hearing it over and over in the car. Besides there are alot more MCs on wutang than NWA but this probably one of the hardest ones.
I’m a massive fan of both groups. They are so different but also so similar to one another. NWA started Gangster Rap. Well they made it more commercial. Wu-Tang was so different with the fact that there were 9 members. We hadn’t seen anything like that before in hip hop. Plus all 9 were dope and all were different in their style. From NWA Eazy,Dre and Cube built empires. All in their own different ways. This choice is so difficult.
I’m WU all the way, all day, but the significance of what came with DR DRE after NWA (snoop, death row, Eminem, 50 cent) has to be included - because we include the solo endeavours of the WU when making this comparison
What a great f’n question. I’m from LA and love NWA for the impact on hip hop. I bump WU more when I drive cuz of that RZA sampling and style. Dre and Cube solo were different beasts but WU as a whole were more cohesive and 9 emcees making it work was ridiculous. I’d take a shot too but for the sake of answering, I’ll go WU by a hair.
@@MikiyasDemeke-xp8vp yup! OB4CL and Supreme Clientele are my favorite WU solo projects. Me being from the West, I always felt torn but WU always got more spins from my personal Walkman and cd player (I’m 36 lol). On the flip side I still heavily bumped a lot of NWA solo projects. Ice Cube is a legend and Dr with both Chronics were amazing. Eazy for the time had some heat as well.
Respect for N.W.A. But Wu. That whole movement. They changed the whole game even if N.W.A also changed the game. But Wu Tang, that worldwide movement, and still to this day. Unmatchable. Wu Tang is for the Children ❤ R.I.P ODB and Easy. 2 legends 👑👑
@@elliot2177 yeah there’s too many artists but do they got monstrous, international hits including production wise like Dr. Dre, Ice Cube ? Dre can pull out Eminem, 50 cent, Snoop Dogg, Kendrick Lamar, Busta Rhymes, Mary J. Bilge, 2pac and the whole member of Death Row. That alone can destroy the whole catalog of the Wu but if that’s not enough Ice Cube and Eazy-E got some legendary hits to finish the job at the end. NWA takes the crown on this battle.
NWA was the sound track of my high school years...Wu Tang came later however as a Kid before NWA Kungfu Theater on WGN out of Chicago had all the kung-fu movies so i was extremely familiar with the Wu, its both for me.
Being born in Long Beach and raised throughout LA in the 90's & 2000's, we'd ALL have to say Wu-Tang. The world was f*cking with NWA, but LA wasn't on the same level. The hoods understood NWA, but never connected with them as we did with Wu. The thing is, NWA had shock value to the world and they put LA on the map. But how much they rapped about gang-banging and poppin in streets but not being from a gang, drug dealing but not dealing (besides Eazy) etc,... it just distanced themselves because authenticity. Cube and Dre both noticed that and slowly dropped that act years later in their solo careers. Snoop, Eazy, Cube, Nate Dogg, Warren G, Bone, Quik, Too Short, Brotha Lynch, Fugees, Wu, Outkast, Cypress Hill, Master P, DMX, Westside Connection... only to name a few. That's what was bumpin in our tape decks and CD players to school and to work, not so much NWA. Wu-Tang was authentic to what they rapped about and what they did. Damn near all 642-thousand of them muh-fukkas in Wu-Tang had rapsheets while making music (no pun intended). They were more lyrical, polished with wordsmith, connected to their craft, the list goes on.. all because it was authentic. Till this day, nobody's bumping NWA like they are Wu. That speaks for itself.
You ain't lying about that, NWA did paved the way for other groups to make more than a duo, but the Wu Tang Clan are still relevant. The Wu Tang Clan had nine rappers that almost never broke up. NWA only had a few rappers but they all broke up. Basically Dr. Dre is like the only actual NWA and that's it. Because Ice Cube was NWA but now is more of an either West Connection or Lench Mob type of guy.
You're right, NWA packaged up a little presentation to pay homage to the gangsters of Compton, but Wu Tang were just authentic af. They were really those grimey street Ns they were talking about, but simultaneously showed you they were so much more complex than some caricature. Real intellectual philosophers, even nerds, at the same time. They didn't have to fake anything, and you could feel in your bones they didn't know how to be fake. I really don't think this is even that close.
Yep Eazy-E (Bone thugs-N-harmony, Above the Law, MC Ren, B.G Knocc out and Dresta) Dr. Dre (Snoop dogg, D.P.G, 50 cent, DJ Yella, Eminem, Kendrick Lamar, The Game) Ice cube (Westside connection)
It’s a compliment and statement within itself for a group consisting of 4 members (2 that are rappers) to compete against a group that consist of 9 rappers. When I was 8 my Aunt brought me a talk boy from toys r us. The first record I recorded was Wu Tang Da Mystery of Chessboxin and the second was Nuttin but a G thang and memorized both! NWA influenced Black People and Wu Tang influenced the World!
@@amandlaxoki by bridging two different cultures. Black culture and Asian culture along with Islam. No one in Hip Hop had done that until the Wu did it. And actually no one did it since
Just because a certain artist or group comes out before the next does not mean they paved the way. WU was bound to blow up with or without N.W.A being out first. Plus, you talking about 2 different coasts. WU 4 life!!!
@@closag4101nah see that’s where you’re wrong…wu tang was inspired by nwa, alot of gangster rap (artists) also were so nwa being the pioneers it means something
@@dolapo7871 That is some funny business right there you saying. Have you even been up on WU? Since when? yesterday? Show me the FACTS? Where did anyone from the WU, from RZA to Masta Killa, who out of any of them ever said that B.S? Ya'll think everybody that came after N.W.A was inspired by them. Have you even read any of their books? No,. Don't say things just because is what you think. That's how gossip and rumors start. There is no footage, statements, clips, interviews neither tracks or flows that back up what you claim. Show me, quote it at least and tell me who said it. I'll wait.
@@dolapo7871 That is some funny business right there that you're saying, WU was never inspired by N.W.A. Where did you get that from? What interview, video, clips, tracks or verses do you have or know that back up your claim? Ya'll think that just because N.W.A came out before that they inspire everyone, Have you even read any of their books? No,. Don't say things without knowing the facts YO, that 's how rumors are started and gossip spreads. The WU just so you know were inspired by the teaching of the 5 percent and Rakim. Get you facts right!
@@dolapo7871 no matter what, both got fire ass tracks, N.w.A REPPD L.A like no one ekse... Wu REPRESENT N.Y . Diff times but same message!! P.E.A.C.E!!
In Terms of impact and the aftermath to the music NWA. Lench mobb, Eminem, 50 Cent, G Unit, Kendrick, west side connection, snoop, 213, Warren g, nate dogg, doc, dogg pound, bone thugz, etc 1000s of songs due to that initial run.
It’s The Wu For Me . Emcees Aside Ppl Act Like Dre’s Production Is Better Than Everybody’s. RZA Is Top 5 & Did Those 1st 6 Wu Albums By Himself . Enter The 36 Chambers , Tical , Return To The 36 Chambers The Dirty Version , OB4CL , Liquid Swords , & Ironman .
Being from Arizona makes me more west coast. Like someone from Philadelphia representing for the east. Neither of us have an ocean. But the correct and only answer is both.
All respect to NWA and Dr Dre who gave us snoop, 50 & Eminem….but a wu tang album is astronomical in my eyes, especially their first album, 36 went hard, followed by Wu forever and The W I grew up on as a JIT. so wu all the way man
Who did the most boring rap group sign besides boring solo records? You forgot BONE the greatest rap group that eazy found? You can’t compare BONE THUGS to wu bruh. Back to back champs having albums go #1 with E.1999 Eternal and The Art Of War. Won a Grammy unlike Wu who loss to Puff Daddy with ODB crying lol. Wu was boring only one good song CREAM who only made it @ 60 in the top 100 singles while millions of other rap artists had #1 singles. Seriously 60 LOL
Both ! They create n' bring something différent with differents influances . I love Hip Hop so i can't love a side without the other side ! ❤from France, thx for ur show Nore !what a bullet !❤ Ps, invite more Jamaicans artists could be interresting cause Hip Hop n' Reggae are the most influential music in this modern time
NWA convinced me rap should be taken seriously, but Wu-Tang convinced me it was a genuine form of art
This is such a good answer!👐
I chose NWA but i Love WU. Silly vid, need context doe.
Pusha's life flashed before his eyes before answering that 😅
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99 likes I have to make it the 100th.. Wu tang all day!
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N.W.A. introduced me to hip hop. Wu made me fall in love with it.
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Man Pusha T reaction to the question just kills me 😂😂😂
At first I thought what wrong with the footage but actually he freeze and stun when he heard the question 😂
He was like 😕🙏🏻 for all the time
@2:31 you're welcome👍🏼
Pusha had the Draymond face 😂
Pusha was doing mad math calculations and shiit, dead
Wu Tang Clan not only produced some of greatest MC’s of all time, but beats and lyrics were crazy. No one heard anything like it before, it was very smart.
NWA was the first gangsta rap group to hit it hard, with F the police. They were controversial and because of their lyrics, the US government took issue. Both groups are very influential for what they did for rap music.
I am taking mobb deep
@@freshoftheoven965dude MD has nothing to do with this
@@HoweyJR_ it does
NWA was the first crew to boldly deny government oppression and paved the way for some upcoming artists, but lyrically, You won't deny Wu Tang's witty wordplay. It's like Steve Jobs introducing the touchpad phones and Graham improving telephone use after the two people who invented the telephone and left the job undone. who should get more credit?
Nwa
I'm Brazilian and the N.W.A helped a lot in contributing to Rap and Hip-Hop culture due to its similarity with the police violence we suffered. I will be eternally grateful to the late Eazy-E
I’m Latino born and raised in Los Angeles with a Wu-tang Tattoo. As lyricists NWA can’t touch the Wu but I love NWA.
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You said it best.
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I’m a Black man from Inglewood , CA ( The Avenues ) and NWA lyrically defined my reality growing up……..Black Knights of The NorthStar was kool though
I've always been deeply in the Shaolin flicks since a small child, before i arrived at Hip Hop...so imagine my delight when i first heard Wu... It was ❤ at first sight
Kelvin hart thought about it like his career depends on it😂😂😂😂
As a 12 year old white kid from Kentucky in 1988, i still remember getting in trouble with my parents for listening to N.W.A. That album was 🔥🔥🔥
I was 11 years old in 1988 and I left Eazy’s “Eazy Duz It “ tape in our tv/living room stereo system that went all through the house. One night my parents had their friends over for dinner and they put the music on and all I heard was “Lay down and unbottom your bra,there were the biggest titties that I ever saw” and I was like “FUCK”. I definitely got in trouble for that one and my mom broke that tape in front of me.
@@tomking7080 lol damn i bet that was rough.
@@iLuseMy1v1s LMFAO. My mom was like “Where did you get that from,who gave you that tape?” Of course I lied and said someone at school but it was my older cousin who was 14-15 at the time but I wasn’t going to rat him out. I had 2 Live Crew tapes with S&M,Fuck shop and Too Short tapes hidden also. I’m glad that I didn’t have 2 Live Crew S&M in the stereo then because that would of been really bad lol. My mom was/is really cool so she didn’t trip over it that bad. When I was 15-16 my mom would catch a chick in my room in the morning and tell us to wait to leave cause my dad was still in the house but he was leaving soon. My mom would cook breakfast for me and the girl that spent the night. I have a really cool mom. As long as my grades were good,which they always were. Until my last semester of my senior year in high school because I had already gotten accepted to college and I received a academic and athletic scholarship so my parents really couldn’t say shit. That last semester did drop my cumulative GPA but whatever I didn’t care by then b
@@tomking7080 That's a pretty damn good story. It's funny how a certain album can take you back to a certain point in your life.
@@iLuseMy1v1s Man. Every time I hear a track especially if I haven’t heard it in a while it always brings me back. Just the other day I heard Sade’s “By your side “ which is one of my favorite songs ever it brought me back to my freshman year in college. I love music bro. All kinds,besides country. I tried to get into it but it’s just not me. I love 1960’s music like the Beatles,Stones,Doors. 1970’s like Pink Floyd,Steve Miller,80’s like Guns N Roses,Motley Crew,90’s like Alice In Chains,Tool,Soundgarden,Pearl Jam,Sonic Youth and that list goes on forever almost. For me the 90’s had the best music from every genre in my opinion. Hip hop was amazing during that time. Just look at all the dope artists who came out during that time period like Big(who is my favorite rapper ever),PAC,Nas,Jay,Eminem,Dre,Snoop,Cube and on and on. That is my era ,I’m Gen X,so I’m probably biased but the 90’s will always be the best era for music in my opinion
Wu-tang was like school man. It’s bigger than the music, the álbuns. Their story and how they became that group is so freaking rare that they needed a philosophy behind it so strong that it became bigger than anyone has ever done in the industry. For that reason I’m going with the Wu
N.W.A IS THE REASON WHY I STILL LISTEN RAP THIS DAY🤟🏻🔥🔥
Both, bro. Let's not divide hip hop. Let's embrace it for making us the people that we are today.
Yeah but not everybody can take a bunch of shots 😅 Some of these guys were concerned about getting buzzed
It’s wu tang
The editing is top notch, the question is so hard, i honesty don t know how to even make comparisons between the two groups, they both have all it takes to be the best group in hiphop and one of the best groups in music history, sometimes i lean towards the psychopathic subject matter of wu tang and other times i do lean towards nwa
As a 13 14yr old kid from Texas, Eazy E We Want Eazy & NWA Straight Outta Compton made me gravitate to the West Coast sound as my rap preference.
Not until my mid 30s did the Wu grew into me. Now they're all over my playlist.
Wu is hands down for me. Not just the group, but the solo stuff from the members of the Wu is just fire.
😂😂 solo stuff from dre out done them all. So should be nwa then
@@navjitbassi03why you hating cuz he ain’t mention your fav group
@@RealFloxks59 where is the hate? Quote a hateful word i used snowflake
@@navjitbassi03Liquid Swords and Cuban Linx are better albums than the Chronic or 2001, though Dre had more "hits". Then there's Ghostface's ridiculous catalogue.
@@allanokeefe104 i prefer 2001 and chronic. Most people would prefer it aswell based on sales. Hip hop nerds who over analyse lyrics would prefer wutang. But the average person who just likes good music would prefer those other albums
Wu tang made me fall in love with Hiphop, they were like superheroes to me as a kid
Bro they are the reason i love hip hop too.
White boys who smoke erb too right😉 ....@@Sapha90
TRUE.
NWA was the age of destruction for Black people
I'm a life long WU baby!!! I am definitely influenced by NWA but WuTang guided me, educated me, entertained me, and gave me a blueprint for conducting myself. NWA spoke to things that I already knew/was aware of. For that I am grateful for NWA. However, the impact of WuTang on my life is immeasurable
I was always around hip-hop being from nyc and I loved all genres but when I first heard bring the pain 🤯
Love NWA but you gotta be real, they were a flash in the pan compared to Wu's longevity. I'll never forget running up my mom's cable bill playing Triumph on repeat on The Box😂 that video had me in a chokehold! Been a die hard Wu head ever since
Same way I fault about NWA.
WU-TANG ALL DAY
Casual
9 Lyrical Masters!
Aww yea…. Again and again….😂
N. W. A
I would agree Wu- Tang , Ghetto boys EPMD and Boogie down productions
6:21 The best answer! 🔥❤️ I was blown away by NWA back in the early 90's and absolutely burned my walkman with Straight outta CPT and EFIL4ZAGGIN 💥🔥 But when 36 Chambers came out it was definitely something new. Them dudes were different on a dope and cool af way, they killed it. I love both groups ❤️
Wu tang it’s clear
6:28 Pusha T's reaction was like he was talking to the ancestors Biggie, Big L, JMJ , 2Pac and ODB (all legendary NY M.C.s) like Black Panther did and they told him the culture is Wu Tang while NWA actually hurt Hip Hop!
I love both groups, but if I have to choose it's the Wu. Not only did they make music, they had a group symbol/insignia, they were successful with the Wu Wear and opened stores not only in the states, but around the world. They're the only group I can recall who you can identify with just a symbol. When they changed their names to mafioso monikers a lot of other rappers followed suit. They were the first group to sign their individual artists to all different labels. They had a video game Shaolin Style on PS1. They have multiple documentaries, books, and a series that was streaming on major platform.(Hulu). They have a myriad of artists/groups that branch offf of the main Wutang Clan. Sunz of Man, Killa Army, Trife da God to name a few. Not to mention not only do they have fans stateside, but worldwide.
I’m from SoCal and I still go Wu-Tang all day. I think it’s a generational thing though. I was born in 84 and NWA came out in 87. Wu came out in 93 and touched my soul. By that time Dre and Snoop were going at Eazy and vice versa which was dope too.
Both Legendary groups, it ultimately comes down to which impacted you more
Nwa only had cube and ren doing the main writing. Cube wrote for Eazy e . Wu tang has multiple skillful rappers that made great music and classic albums , wu clearly the better group
don’t say bullsh** about Eazy 🤫
NWA also had the legendary D.O.C. writing.
@@Normperson101 Schoolly D started gangsta rap. Nwa learned from Ice T . And wu did different types of songs too it wasnt always gangsta music . Wu is better
@@OAj-yh8eo cube wrote his lyrics I said that
@@Normperson101 that’s true and nwa got it from ice t . Ice t brough gangsta rap to the west before nwa but yes nwa was the first group. Nwa made it global but ice t inspired them
For me its Wu Tang
Same
Same
For me it’s NWA
Yes I luv E Cube & Mc ren but Wu for da win 🏆
@@abrahampalmer8761 By the way Cass looks like Skinny Gandhi. 😂
WuTang made you love hip hop
NWA made you respect hip hop
I actually can’T decide anything other than, they both did amazing things for us all
Yes respect for NWA for being the pioneers of the game but let’s be honest WuTang had everything you need in one group. Beats, Women, Fashion, made Being Nerdy cool with kung fu flicks, politics, math, religion, etc., being from the hood. They was on a whole different level. WuTang is still doing concerts till this day even lost ODB (RIP) and NWA not doing concerts without Eazy (RIP) love NWA but the Wu is the best group of all time.
You dam sure right, I was already a fan of kungfu fu flicks and when wutang clan came out with kungfu, hot 🔥 beats and rhymes man I almost went fool, I ain't putting know hip-hop group over Wutang, now next to wutang I think I would have to pick mobb deep
Wu tang had one good album then they had a few good songs nwa had concerts still especially after the movie for the new fans even after the wu tang documentary wu tang remained the same as far as popularity
Theres no wu without nwa,
There will most definitely be a Wu without NWA they looked up to New York rappers and saw that as competition not NWA. And they had three successful Wu albums and got countless solo albums from every wu member that are bangers.
@@DannyBoi93 Porque escribes eso si Wu-tang ni siquiera rapeaban al estilo gangsta de nwa, Wu-tang trajo su propio estilo de rapear y aun que hay respeto por NWA por ser uno de los pioneros, pero wu popularizo el rap gringo a nivel mundial a gran escala y lo otro salio con uno de los mejores albumes del rap de la historia como el enter de wu-tang de hecho en todos los top del mundo que hacen de discos del rap esta ya sea de 1ro a 5to y de alli no baja de hecho todos los temas de ese album se popularizaron, y si uno se pone a contar hit es literalmente lo mismo, wu-tang debe ser facil el grupo de rap con mas cantidad de hit en su repertorio.
The only people who would find this hard to answer are people from Cali.
I’m saying that, I’m from Cali and Wu Tang’s skill is so far above NWA they aren’t in the same universe.
@basedeffect2610 dude we know Wu-Tang are great rappers but NWA had better beats and production
Not even close.
Not tru ppl from ny sayin wu so its even in a since
@@Rawtraveles I would have to disagree with that. RZA's beats were always sharper
Wu tang is for the children
N.W.A got me into hip-hop/rap so them
Ice T raised a good point, NWA is two rappers
That's cap he forgot about the D.O.C HE was part of NWA too he help wite some of those songs
MC REN, Ice Cube. They wrote the lyrics along with DOC. Also coached everyone else through their verses..
@@georgetheturthurtsno. DOC was never part of NWA. He was an affiliate and did ghost writing for them, but he was never an official member of NWA.
NWA is not two rappers. It was two writers...Cube and Red and sometimes DOC.... But Dre, Cube, Run and EaZy all rhymed. It was something about Eazy's voice on a record
When he said wu tang is 9 Mcs how tf u do that I had to laugh!!😂😂
This is a tough one, it’s going to come down to biases because these 2 groups can’t be compared.
They both are originals and changed the hip hop culture forever. It’s a push… but for me it’s THE CLAN bec I’m from where they from and they just the best at everything.
Damn that shit was dope ‼️
In wutang all members write their own rhymes... that is a big point
Yup that’s prob the ultimate decision breaker one group had a ghost writer. The other group just chatted and smoked out ideas and inspired each other but didn’t write for each other
Not only that they all lived what they talked about…thats what I always liked about New York rappers…
What about ODB?
FACTS
Actually Rza and Gza wrote for ODB.. not all his stuff.. but quite a few joints. But he made it his own with his style.
N.W.A. impact, Wu-Tang Clan evolution.
Wu tang
Two different times and places. Gangsta rap in LA and rugged and stylish hip hop in NY. 2 of the best of all-time 🎉
Wu-tang 🤷♂️ & I'm from Miami. Ironman album changed my life. 36 chambers was the first rap album I ever bought 🔥🔥
Kevin Hart & Pusha T stuck 😂😂
Did Kevin ever answer?
It's hard to choose, but the way i see it is N.W.A was an important introduction of rap/hiphop to the world or when rap become more visible to the world and wu tang perfected but tastes are relative
Gravediggaz & wu-tang have zero competition .. they are the master builders of this whole thing 🍻 cheers
Please Outkast PERIOD The 🐐!!!!!
@@jeremiahpolk8908outcast not on Wu tang level
@@deryckcumberbatch3629 I know cause that shit doesn't sell. Can't nobody in Wu Tang fuck with OUTKAST PERIOD!!!! 🐐 Method Man the only one who music sell PERIOD and protect your neck that shit was stupid and wack. Face it it's over for New York all that Curtis Blow ass bullshit.3000 & Big Boi on another level and you know it.
@@jeremiahpolk8908 say no to drugs. Hip hop is not about popularity it’s a way of life. Outcast can’t f with Wu. Man talking out records sales. Hip hop is dead. Now it’s about money.
@@deryckcumberbatch3629 Look man Bar for Bar Wu Tang can't touch them and I like The clan , come on man ODB Was trash , Ghostface,Method Man and Raekwon the only one's successful. If it wasn't for Method Man it would be over for them. Big Boi would slaughter them by himself. 3000 it wouldn't even be fair even Celo Green could go toe to toe.Even New York said it first it's all about money ain't a damn thang funny " Grand Master Flash and the Ferious Five. e"
Do you remember where you were and what you were doing the 1st time you heard that beat come in?...WDF is this?.. and then that verse kicks off -"I smoke on the mic like smokin' Joe Frasier - the hell raiser - raise hell with the flavor" .....Wu-Tang, hands down.
How about "I bomb atomically"? I'll never forget being at my cousin's house in hot ass Moreno Valley watching Triumph with my mouth wide open. I had NEVER heard or seen anything like that!
I like both ... a lot. I have to go with Wu-Tang Clan. The tie-breaker is that I've seen them in concert. A bunch of times... and they're still out there rocking. Not many people can say they've seen NWA live in concert.
Fantastic insight from all the artists, keep up with the awesome content!
It's Wu for me. I loved the shock value of NWA when I was a kid (stole my brother's tape when I was 9) but Wu was a whole movement, the music, the samples , the aliases, the beats, the rhymes, the aesthetic, the grittiness, the slang, the clothing, the video games, the references, the science, math, philosophy, politics etc all interwoven into the wordplay. Wu will always be the dopest group in the world to me
Ummm nwa wasn’t a movement? Lol. Gangsta rap is still here today. Nobody I rapping about the circumference of the earth, moon, and sun. It Didn’t age as well.
@@mikeg4960 No NWA wasn't a movement, they were part of one for sure but they weren't their own wave like Wu. Ice T, Schooly D and others predate NWA as far as gangsta rap goes.
They were so boring lol they didn’t even make top 10 on billboard top 100 songs, their most successful was CREAM at 62 smfh
@@mikeg4960Exactly NWA spawned artists like Pac, snoop, Bone thugs, Eminem, 50 cent. Only Method Man was successful with one movie partnered with Redman
@@LALakers4life34 🤣 ah yes popularity within the mainstream as a measurement for success. By your logic Nelly is better than Rakim, G Rap or Kane.
"Who contends? Wu like - The Super Friends, who's ya rhymin heroes?? WU-TANG RULES AGAIN!! 💪🏾"
Anybody else crying at the Edit of push just being stuck on the question 😭
Yo!
N.W.A. Released 2 studio albums and 2 EPs. Largely without radio play or support from TV stations such as MTV, BET, VH1, etc and yet they are still regarded as one of the most influential and top rap groups of all time. NWA got banned for doing gangsta rap. They didn’t get the exposure Wu-tang got nor did they last as long as a group as Wu did. For those reasons, I’m going to say NWA.
FACTS...Wu tang was received with open arms but NWA had to earn every fan with little to no radio play even on the west coast
Yeah but whos music is better?
@@MADMANCMTB honestly, I’m not a huge wu-tang clan fan. Other than their major hits “ain’t nuthing to fuck with” , “C.R.E.A.M” , “Triumph” , and “Gravel pit”, I don’t know much about them as a group. So i still say NWA
Period
TECHNICALLY YOU ARE WRONG CUZ I GREW UP IN THAT ERA AND THEIR VIDEO STRAGHT OUTTA COMPTON WAS ON EVERY VIDEO PLATFORM INCLUDING MTV . HOW DO YOU THINK THEY GOT THAT ATTENTION AND GOT BANNED FROM VIDEO PLATFORMS . . . OUT WEST ON KDAY , THEY WERE BEING PROMOTED LIKE AIR JORDANS SO YOU MOST DEFINITELY WRONG ON THAT
From Dominican Republic we love wuuuuuuu for ever
I remember when NWA came out, everything changed overnight. So for that alone I have to give their due props and will always respect what they did. If we are talking about what I still listen to today and still holds up the best, I gotta go with Wu Tang. Wu was another major turning point of note in hip hop and no less influential, they took that NWA torch and absolutely ran with it in a whole new way.
Yeah boring songs lol none of their singles made the top 50 lol CREAM was their most successful at 60 while millions others went to #1 and won Grammy’s
@@LALakers4life34 you seem to be conflating chart rank with its worth and that has been proven time and time again to not be true at all. Influence and impact rarely is recognized or acknowledged in the moment.
@@PuffinPass Hey if record producers/experts won’t award them with a Grammy then they’re not that good buddy
@@LALakers4life34 Grammys don’t mean nothing. U on nwa meat. Wu is the better group , nwa had broken up because of a Jew 😂. A Jew could never break up the wu . Stop glazing nwa
@@LALakers4life34 Record producers and execs award what increases their bottom line not what is best artistically or quality wise.
"If your record goes platinum it has nothing to do with luck, it just means a million people are stupid as fuck." Immortal Technique
I am with Pusha T on this one 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That’s a tough one son… both!
Wu-Tang revolutionized the hip hop industry when they started blowing up. From creating a logo that would be used and licensed still to this day, to branching out to different businesses (eg. Wu-Wear, Killah Koffee, Hastoria, Bomb Atomically IPA, etc) and more importantly, paving the way and making the blueprint for other groups to be able to do individual shit and still come together as a group. Their longevity proves how influential they still are. #WutangIsForTheChildren
@TheEugeneKyu
NWA made the Raiders and Kings brands blow up.
Not to mention Locs, Dickies and Chucks.
NWA ALL DAY.
@@cantstop-wontstop2138 but NONE of those are owned or licensed out by the NWA bro lol good reach
@@TheEugeneKyu
Nobody in the video mentioned branding or based their choice on "licensing". It's about impact and imprint on the hip-hop landscape.
NWA left big footprints in the game.
@@cantstop-wontstop2138 im aware its about influence and longevity right? now tell me the last time NWA toured or put out music? ill wait...
@@TheEugeneKyu
When was the Wu last hit, club-banger?
...I'll wait...
Dre ain't gotta tour- you bought his headphones
Cube too busy wit the Big 3 and movies
Ren fell off like 7 or 8 of the Wu did
And E is dead, jus like ODB.
So whas yur point?
Growing up in the 90’s and living in LA (North Hollywood), NWA was an amazing group to listen to, but my life changed musically when I first heard Wu-Tang Clan. I choose the Witty Unpredictable 👐🏽
I think it would have been harder if it was Wu-Tang or Mobb Deep
We went a whole video with getting everyone else's answer and Kevin Hart still couldn't answer the question.😂😂😂😂😂
I mean, i understand and respect why People go NWA, but for me is WU clan .
Exactly
Same
Hell yeah the rza the gza the old dirty bastard
54 years old here. I remember the impact NWA had on me when i first heard them. It was a shock, they can say this & that? Lol. They looked gangster! No filter and angry. Suited me to a tee lol. But Wu, Made me spazz out! Wtf is this!!? 9 emcees and can all spit!!!? Rza's beats blew my mind apart! Lol. Wu changed my life forever. Wu for me but respect to NWA.
NWA is the most influential rap group ever tbh. They commercialised gangster rap with Eazy E, which is literally 80% of all rap music, and without Dr Dre thered be no Snoop, Ice Cube, Pac (deathrow era), Eminem, 50, Game, Kendrick.
U wrong on pac, pac was already 🔥 before he got with dre he didn't need dre he had others producers
eso de la comercializacion e influencia fue mas una influencia territorial de California es en el territorio gringo, pero fue wu-tang quien popularizo el rap gringo a nivel mundial y los que influenciaron al mundo a hacer rapero, si era cosa de ver cualquier pais de latinoamerica lo primero que se veia escuchando Wu-Tang y usando sus prendas, de hecho en latinoamerica fuera de wu , lo 2do mas escuchado no era nwa era cypress,2pac o notorious nada mas
Pac didn't need Dre. And he didn't even like Dre. Do your research.
@@ericbarnes824 pac biggest song is California love witch was given to him by DR DRE
Game 🤮🤮
Wutang easy because it meant alot more for me. 36 chambers is how i learned english hearing it over and over in the car. Besides there are alot more MCs on wutang than NWA but this probably one of the hardest ones.
Wu-Tang because they STUCK TOGETHER
Easily Wu-tang. For a start their body of work far outweighs NWA, and it’s mostly incredible
I’m a massive fan of both groups. They are so different but also so similar to one another. NWA started Gangster Rap. Well they made it more commercial. Wu-Tang was so different with the fact that there were 9 members. We hadn’t seen anything like that before in hip hop. Plus all 9 were dope and all were different in their style. From NWA Eazy,Dre and Cube built empires. All in their own different ways. This choice is so difficult.
That Cypress answer was Stick🔥
witty unpredictable talent and natural game
Wu-Tang are miles ahead of any group you put against them. The Greatest there ever was.
@Jayrated23 because of their ability & music, imo. Plus, they’re unique. NWA are still legends, but I personally prefer Wu.
Outkast is the greatest group ever
Wu fell apart after wu tang forever album though. Their true peak was 93-96
@@Lifewithniya3685 duo..
@@Lifewithniya3685🧢 Juice Crew is Greatest Rap Group
Regardless of the answer, i respect that most people had to really think on their answers. Both are legends
I’m WU all the way, all day, but the significance of what came with DR DRE after NWA (snoop, death row, Eminem, 50 cent) has to be included - because we include the solo endeavours of the WU when making this comparison
Wu have way better songs and emcees within the group. Ain’t nobody from NWA messing with Gza, Deck, Ghost or method lyrically.
Ice cube definitely is bruh especially mc ran stop that nonsense
... Ice Cube is the Greatest Rapper still breathing Air. I suggest you go check the Catalog.
@Troll_Hater_MoodKiller ...ICE CUBE HAS THE BEST OPENERS FOR A VERSE EVER! it's the Words He chooses to use and how He chooses to say them.
@@dagangsta0fluv bruh y'all are cube capping.he got none on the clansmen.rebel ins, meth,hell cappadonna will waste him
@@wambokodavid7109 ... Wu Tang only good album was the first one. RZA BEATS ARE WACK ‼️
2 Legend Team !!!
What a great f’n question. I’m from LA and love NWA for the impact on hip hop. I bump WU more when I drive cuz of that RZA sampling and style. Dre and Cube solo were different beasts but WU as a whole were more cohesive and 9 emcees making it work was ridiculous. I’d take a shot too but for the sake of answering, I’ll go WU by a hair.
Wu even had fire solo projects
Gangster rap fighting police brutality vs Intellectual rap lyrics on beats hypnotizing
@@donii7092 yup great associations with those styles. Theres a place for both in my music library 🙏🏼
@@MikiyasDemeke-xp8vp yup! OB4CL and Supreme Clientele are my favorite WU solo projects. Me being from the West, I always felt torn but WU always got more spins from my personal Walkman and cd player (I’m 36 lol). On the flip side I still heavily bumped a lot of NWA solo projects. Ice Cube is a legend and Dr with both Chronics were amazing. Eazy for the time had some heat as well.
Wu is for the children! 🤘🏻❤️🔥
Witty Unpredictable Talent And Natural Game,RZA,GZA,ol dirty bastard,inspektah deck, Raekwon the chef,u-god,Ghostface Killah and the method man
Respect for N.W.A.
But Wu. That whole movement. They changed the whole game even if N.W.A also changed the game. But Wu Tang, that worldwide movement, and still to this day. Unmatchable. Wu Tang is for the Children ❤
R.I.P ODB and Easy. 2 legends 👑👑
I would LOVE to see Versus with these two. The hype and intensity would be like LOX vs Dipset. If this happens, they gotta set it off at the STADIUM!
Wu would put them to sleep..Too.many artists
@@elliot2177easy work
@@elliot2177 yeah there’s too many artists but do they got monstrous, international hits including production wise like Dr. Dre, Ice Cube ? Dre can pull out Eminem, 50 cent, Snoop Dogg, Kendrick Lamar, Busta Rhymes, Mary J. Bilge, 2pac and the whole member of Death Row. That alone can destroy the whole catalog of the Wu but if that’s not enough Ice Cube and Eazy-E got some legendary hits to finish the job at the end. NWA takes the crown on this battle.
NWA was the sound track of my high school years...Wu Tang came later however as a Kid before NWA Kungfu Theater on WGN out of Chicago had all the kung-fu movies so i was extremely familiar with the Wu, its both for me.
👐🏽 Clan in the front!
The W 🔥🔥
That might be one of the greatest questions ever! I respect NWA but the WU raised me!
Pusha T put some REEEAL THOUGHT into that one.
Deep thoughts I can tell 💭
Consider the judgment of his decision.
Being born in Long Beach and raised throughout LA in the 90's & 2000's, we'd ALL have to say Wu-Tang.
The world was f*cking with NWA, but LA wasn't on the same level. The hoods understood NWA, but never connected with them as we did with Wu.
The thing is, NWA had shock value to the world and they put LA on the map. But how much they rapped about gang-banging and poppin in streets but not being from a gang, drug dealing but not dealing (besides Eazy) etc,... it just distanced themselves because authenticity. Cube and Dre both noticed that and slowly dropped that act years later in their solo careers.
Snoop, Eazy, Cube, Nate Dogg, Warren G, Bone, Quik, Too Short, Brotha Lynch, Fugees, Wu, Outkast, Cypress Hill, Master P, DMX, Westside Connection... only to name a few. That's what was bumpin in our tape decks and CD players to school and to work, not so much NWA.
Wu-Tang was authentic to what they rapped about and what they did. Damn near all 642-thousand of them muh-fukkas in Wu-Tang had rapsheets while making music (no pun intended). They were more lyrical, polished with wordsmith, connected to their craft, the list goes on.. all because it was authentic.
Till this day, nobody's bumping NWA like they are Wu. That speaks for itself.
You ain't lying about that, NWA did paved the way for other groups to make more than a duo, but the Wu Tang Clan are still relevant. The Wu Tang Clan had nine rappers that almost never broke up. NWA only had a few rappers but they all broke up. Basically Dr. Dre is like the only actual NWA and that's it. Because Ice Cube was NWA but now is more of an either West Connection or Lench Mob type of guy.
i ain’t reading all that fam but that’s cool
Ren was a gang member but I hear you
You're right, NWA packaged up a little presentation to pay homage to the gangsters of Compton, but Wu Tang were just authentic af. They were really those grimey street Ns they were talking about, but simultaneously showed you they were so much more complex than some caricature. Real intellectual philosophers, even nerds, at the same time. They didn't have to fake anything, and you could feel in your bones they didn't know how to be fake. I really don't think this is even that close.
I ain't seen a movie about WuTang🤷🏾♂️
NWA has the greatest family tree in rap music
creo que no conoces nada de wu-tang men para decir eso, si solo de wu-tang clan entre integrantes y grupo salen mas de 100 grupos 🤣
True
Yep
Eazy-E
(Bone thugs-N-harmony, Above the Law, MC Ren, B.G Knocc out and Dresta)
Dr. Dre
(Snoop dogg, D.P.G, 50 cent, DJ Yella, Eminem, Kendrick Lamar, The Game)
Ice cube
(Westside connection)
WU is still performing as we speak full crowd.
Easy answer from B Real 🔥🔥🔥
It’s a compliment and statement within itself for a group consisting of 4 members (2 that are rappers) to compete against a group that consist of 9 rappers. When I was 8 my Aunt brought me a talk boy from toys r us. The first record I recorded was Wu Tang Da Mystery of Chessboxin and the second was Nuttin but a G thang and memorized both! NWA influenced Black People and Wu Tang influenced the World!
Wu influenced the world? How?
@@amandlaxoki by bridging two different cultures. Black culture and Asian culture along with Islam. No one in Hip Hop had done that until the Wu did it. And actually no one did it since
@@dl9786 Alright then. I wouldn't know coz that isnt self evident
Nas influence the world itseld homie what are you talking about
NWA 1000% No disrepect to The Wu, but I could FEEL NWA!!
Niggas With Attitude 4 Life 🙌
Yes for WuTang Clan 👐
One paved the way for the other...respect to both 💯
Just because a certain artist or group comes out before the next does not mean they paved the way. WU was bound to blow up with or without N.W.A being out first. Plus, you talking about 2 different coasts. WU 4 life!!!
@@closag4101nah see that’s where you’re wrong…wu tang was inspired by nwa, alot of gangster rap (artists) also were so nwa being the pioneers it means something
@@dolapo7871 That is some funny business right there you saying. Have you even been up on WU? Since when? yesterday? Show me the FACTS? Where did anyone from the WU, from RZA to Masta Killa, who out of any of them ever said that B.S? Ya'll think everybody that came after N.W.A was inspired by them. Have you even read any of their books? No,. Don't say things just because is what you think. That's how gossip and rumors start. There is no footage, statements, clips, interviews neither tracks or flows that back up what you claim. Show me, quote it at least and tell me who said it. I'll wait.
@@dolapo7871 That is some funny business right there that you're saying, WU was never inspired by N.W.A. Where did you get that from? What interview, video, clips, tracks or verses do you have or know that back up your claim? Ya'll think that just because N.W.A came out before that they inspire everyone, Have you even read any of their books? No,. Don't say things without knowing the facts YO, that 's how rumors are started and gossip spreads. The WU just so you know were inspired by the teaching of the 5 percent and Rakim. Get you facts right!
@@dolapo7871 no matter what, both got fire ass tracks, N.w.A REPPD L.A like no one ekse... Wu REPRESENT N.Y . Diff times but same message!! P.E.A.C.E!!
I’m 52 years old and NWA hit hard coming up but it’s WU-Tang for me all day long! What’s up Purple Tape!
Like method man said in symphony 2000 “Wu tang clan numba 1” 👐🏼
WU!! Hands Down these two groups pitched two different messages
In Terms of impact and the aftermath to the music NWA. Lench mobb, Eminem, 50 Cent, G Unit, Kendrick, west side connection, snoop, 213, Warren g, nate dogg, doc, dogg pound, bone thugz, etc 1000s of songs due to that initial run.
It’s The Wu For Me . Emcees Aside Ppl Act Like Dre’s Production Is Better Than Everybody’s. RZA Is Top 5 & Did Those 1st 6 Wu Albums By Himself . Enter The 36 Chambers , Tical , Return To The 36 Chambers The Dirty Version , OB4CL , Liquid Swords , & Ironman .
It is better than rzas
No he didn't True Master produced some of the best .
It’s definitely wu tang. But I love that west coast style the most
Lmfao Pusha Was In Deep Thought 😂
Being from Arizona makes me more west coast. Like someone from Philadelphia representing for the east. Neither of us have an ocean. But the correct and only answer is both.
True
All respect to NWA and Dr Dre who gave us snoop, 50 & Eminem….but a wu tang album is astronomical in my eyes, especially their first album, 36 went hard, followed by Wu forever and The W I grew up on as a JIT. so wu all the way man
Who did the most boring rap group sign besides boring solo records? You forgot BONE the greatest rap group that eazy found? You can’t compare BONE THUGS to wu bruh. Back to back champs having albums go #1 with E.1999 Eternal and The Art Of War. Won a Grammy unlike Wu who loss to Puff Daddy with ODB crying lol. Wu was boring only one good song CREAM who only made it @ 60 in the top 100 singles while millions of other rap artists had #1 singles. Seriously 60 LOL
@@LALakers4life34 dude I was born in 95 man please allow me I love wu tang bruh
@@tyr6387 Man go listen to Kendrick Lamar you don’t know old school hip hop
@@LALakers4life34 I’ve seen him live 3 times 😂
@@tyr6387 Yeah he is crap just like those other 9 members
Both ! They create n' bring something différent with differents influances . I love Hip Hop so i can't love a side without the other side ! ❤from France, thx for ur show Nore !what a bullet !❤ Ps, invite more Jamaicans artists could be interresting cause Hip Hop n' Reggae are the most influential music in this modern time
Wu-Tang are known in Africa not NWA
I agree with u 💯
Which Africa are you talking because in south africa NWA is knkwn bra. Wu tang too soft
Wu Tang is soft? Bruh go to school.@@markcoetzee5458
You're coloured so you defo wasn't listening to rap music like that, you was listening to bangladesh music@@markcoetzee5458
@@markcoetzee5458come on we listen to Wu Tang more than NWA. Nobody listen to NWA music stop caping