I love how Simon says he's not a "good teacher" and then proceeds to give us the best video breakdown of form and all the mechanics imo. Great job sky God
TheMahs Gaming I think Danny has a lot of interesting theories and breakdowns. However looking for tips on how to throw far and more acurate, I prefer taking them from Simon who is an actual world class distance thrower and player. These videos are great and to think that we get them for free is almost crazy. Imagine Michael Jordan posting weekly videos on how to become a better basketball player, when he was in his prime. Thanks for this awesome content Mr. Lizotte!
I'm a 60 year old Brit. Have never played disc golf but am hooked on watching Jomez view and would love to start playing, although there are not that many courses here in the UK. What sort of distance do you throw and what should I expect as a reasonably fit 60 year old?
Cool! You can probably get by with a practice basket and any football field will do to train up your driving and mid range game. You can practice putts at home. A regulation practice target goes for 100$-200$. On the Innova website there is a page with all their discs listed by stability and speed. I started with Aviar for putter, Roc for midrange, and Eagle for driver. If you have strong grip, then use maximum weight discs. If you don't consider yourself to have hands of iron, then maybe around 170g. My magic number is 168g, but I throw a 180g Roc accurately from 40-99 meters, 170g putter for under 40 meters, 168g, 8-9 speed driver for 100-130 meters, and 168-170g, speed 12-13 for anything over 130 meters. Then you just need the discs that make the shapes that give you all the possibilities. Start with the discs listed toward the right side of the Innova chart, which are more understable. This will be more forgiving for new players. Start with speed 8-9 drivers and get your hand speed up til you feel you are ready for faster discs. That takes time and experimentation. One thing I did was start early throwing heavy midrange discs until I could launch them 100m. This made learning any disc easy. But to get started, you need to have one concept at the core of your throwing style: low, flat, straight. ALL beginners release early, aim the nose up, and hyzer out short and left. Figure out what kind of footwork, reach-back, and grip work for you through trial and error. Make everything as simple and clean as possible. Make only the moves you can name a reason for making. Then just work on getting your reach-back to a point that is "180"-ish degrees away from your target. Make your swing as flat as you can throughout the swing, so your starting point and finish point are the similar height. Hold the disc naturally, but swing it flat the whole way to the release, so the shot comes out low, flat. and straight. You achieve loft through spin, not angle trajectory. Think of your throwing mechanics as an arrow whip, where your body is the stick, your arm is the strap, and your disc is the arrow. Your body will bend and charge the energy, your arm will stretch back as if the disc were held like the knocked arrow. This energy storage and tension are the secrets to powerful throws. But you can only throw with the power you can control. Start with the midrange. Standing at half field, throw it into the net. Work the midrange at the football field until you can put it in either corner from the opposite end of the pitch. Then try corner to corner with your long range driver. The chart is going to help you learn about the disc ratings: there are 4 numbers- speed, glide, high speed turn, low speed fade. In the beginning, you will need some negative high speed turn numbers for your drivers. Otherwise, you might try to throw a destroyer right away, but the -1 might not show itself. So a destroyer will seem really stable and only turn left for you. (assuming right handed backhand) But a Daedalus has a -3 and will turn a little more even if you don't get the shot perfectly flat. This will give you longer straight flight in a helix shape, first turning right, then fading left, but basically ending up in a straight line from you to the target. As you learn to control your swing, you will get to a point where you are getting what the disc rating says it can do. This is how you will know when you are ready to move to more stable and faster discs. Try to do a few things instead of everything at first. Learn one driver, one mid, one putter at a time. Once you find a mid and putter that you like, you are good for now. The drivers take more time to learn. Learn the low, flat, straight shot first and this, when combined with good disc selection will give you 80% of the shots you would ever need. Sidearm throws are necessary for low ceiling shots that need to turn right harder than an anhyzer can give. Rollers are necessary for various reasons, but may require extensive experimentation. Overhand shots are necessary for scrambling out of trouble or shooting over obstacles. They are pretty easy to get: thumb under goes left then fades right, fingers under goes right then fades left. They slide in upside down so watch out for pine straw=zoom. Footwork is your foundation. Start by walking up like you were going to jump off a diving board, one step, hop step, foot together, jump= one step, cross step, foot plant, throw. Once you discover the rhythm that works for your body type, you can add speed later as needed. Grip is one of the most important, but individualized things to talk about. Some unorthodox players have two-finger grip or some other odd style that cannot be replicated by 99% of other people. I use a modified power grip for my midrange, which takes away a lot of power because I move my first finger to the rim instead of underneath. But for powerful drives, I need all my fingers under there pulling hard. Keep them tight together and let your thumb rest back away from the edge as if it was pointing straight down your arm. Keeping the fingers tight together provides more explosive spinning torque, so when your joints unfold, the spinning energy is driven from a smaller arc with more force. Imagine you are a giant spring. Each joint in your body is a lock. Wind them up in reverse sequence: fingers-wrist-elbow-shoulder-core-hip-heel. NOW imagine all the energy unfolding rapidly in succession: It starts on the run up. When the foot gets planted, you want to spin on your heel. This is why stepping out a little bit is helpful. Having your foot on a 90 degree angle will facilitate a smoother heel-spin. It also keeps your foot aligned with your lead shoulder for better balance. You will use more or less of any one portion for your own comfort and safety. I have to watch out for my double jointed elbows so I compensate by running up a little faster and really throwing my body into it. But as all the locks unfold, they are in sequence, but moving in an overlapping smooth form that blurs together seamlessly when done correctly. Finally: commitment=confidence. A good shot is a confident shot. A confident shot takes commitment. Golf is all about mental puzzles we unlock with our bodies, but we solve first in our minds. A good decision is more valuable than a strong back. 99% of bad shots come from a disc selection error that then leads to a miscalculation and faulty execution. Commit to a strong grip, a hard throw, and a smooth effort. Commit to low, flat, straight. Get comfortable with this shot and then anything becomes possible. Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.
Ian Barnes I have been playing for a few months now, that is exactly how I got into it. I ended up watching a couple jomezpro videos and got hooked. Then I ended up playing every day for a while. Now I’m really hooked!!
I agree! I heard that and instantly thought about a trebuche... you know how the rock stays on the ground and the giant machine rotates until it snaps the rock forward? Cant wait to go practice.
I throw forehand and I'm learning backhand. This video has changed my backhand forever. 1st day focusing on spacing my feet & keeping my disc still was life changing! Lol. 1week later it's unreal how much improvement I've made just from those 2 things. I know this video is 2years old but man I'd pay for more like this one! Watched countless videos & nothing has helped my backhand more than this. Thank you!
Watching Simon throw is like watching ballet dancing or something. It's so graceful and effortless. I could watch him throw for hours and never get tired of seeing his form. This man is a god amongst men. Can't wait to see you back out on tour again. This is your year Simon! Go get em!
I’m impressed. You have an unparalleled ability to instruct. I have instructed rifle exhibition teams for years and your terms and instruction techniques are something I can take notes from. You are an absolute legend as a player, and a man.
HOLY SHIT!! Just found this oldish Simon video and realized I was doing nearly the same thing as Michael. I merely changed my step from being straight in front of my back foot to across the t-pad and INSTANTLY added 100 feet to my backhand!! MOST HELPFUL tip I've ever gotten. Thank you Simon!
Damn it Simon! I watched this video and it improved my power so much that now my whole bag is too understable! 😂 For real though, after watching a ton of videos on form this is the one that made it click for me. It’s improved my game so much! Thank you!!
I experienced this change as well, but well before I discovered this video...only going from like 240 foot to maybe 280 foot drives, but had to change discs
OMG, that is by far the best video ever on backhand driving technique! You may not think of yourself as a coach, but you're awesome at it! Thank you! Also, I just love your positive attitude on the course!
Thanks for the great tips Simon. As someone who is older and getting into disc golf, it is nice to know I can improve my distance with technique rather than ripping my shoulder out of its socket :)
My 70 year old Father in Law and myself are still watching this video to improve on are form! The best video I've seen for backhand. I really enjoy your videos Simon! Keep up the good work! Let's go Throw!
What I have discovered is that that elbow pointing down is entirely a symptom of being too early with shoulder rotation, and I completely agree that you have to start working from the steps and forward. If you're not in the correct position for your pull, there's no chance of getting the rest of it correct either... But that timing of the rubber band is so difficult as everything happens so fast... Not giving up though :).
For saying that you're not a teacher you sure taught the shit out of this video! I like that you mentioned that your plant foot position is extreme and for not everyone to copy you to that extent per se. Everything was explained in a straight forward, easy to digest manner. I'm gonna show this to my brother who is finally catching the disc golf bug and has oodles of natural talent. Thanks for putting in the time to do this.
Why would anyone in their right mind dislike anything disc golf? This sport really keeps me on the level mentally and physically... Plus there is nothing better than hearing those chains ring! Way to go Simon you are really doing great on your videos man keep up the good work
This would be a great start to a whole series of tutorials. The amount of editing you’ve done is mind boggling for this short vid but SOOO helpful. Please continue! Thank you.
Come on, now, Simon. How are you gonna start the video off by saying you aren’t a coach and then proceed to coach all of us with detail to perfection? Thanks for your videos. You nail it every time. Much appreciation. This video helped me a lot. Your mission is accomplished.
Yes! It is mind blowing to imagine doing all the extra swinging like I used to and many others do. It looks more like a pure swing when you place the disc in front, then approach it with the run up, then move around and past it, all while it stays basically still. I love this concept! I wanted to think about the disc being clamped in place, and me stretching out in front of it and then a release like a catapult with my arm as the launcher. When I do it right, it DOES feel like the disc is held in place and my energy builds while I stretch out in front of the disc. Then it all comes out together on the rip. Watching this video gave me 3 things to work on... fixing one of the things gave me an extra 50 feet! If I fix the other two things, I'm going pro.
Simon... wow brother. As an ex baseball guy, BH timing is still super weird for me. 2 things in this video helped me add about 30' my very first field session; the disc staying in place and setting up around it during the walk up and plant foot being much further left. The planting left is going to help a ton! Can't wait to get more reps in. 400' here I come...
This is so fantastic!!! Are you going to work with Michael and record you coaching him up and perfecting his form? That would be a great series. The Vlog time was not long at all. Keep up the great work.
Hi Simon. I'm 55 and found this addiction called disc golf 4 years ago. Been a fan of you since day one. Love your passion and showmanship. Rock on! And about the single thumb down, could it be Eagle messing with you? 😂
Wow....very inspirational.... been playing for a month now .... this, this video is just what I NEEDED... sometimes one of my drives really zips... now I know why.... thank you @Simon
Simon, this is the best instructional video on the subject out there! DO IT AGAIN! You can just show us your form, explaining as you go. Do one on forehand too. I am watching this every few days until I totally get it. Thank you for this!!!
Been coming back to this video for a couple weeks. My form was Horrible but I'm getting it down one piece at a time. I still need to work on my foot placement and getting my back turned more for maximum rotation but already I'm improving distance with less effort. Hands down best video I've seen for improving form.
If your talking about disc and being fun! You can make videos 30+mins so don't worry about how long! We will love it!! Make sure they are at least 10mins though so you get that add $$
I am 66 and back in the game after a 15 year absence, I had a friend video me several weeks ago and I found a number of mistakes (hopping, no crossover step, no follow through) but after watching this video I found that I was not only planting my right foot straight forward but even further to the right plus I was also starting the disc way out in front of me! Lots to improve on, great video!
So you say your not a teacher, I have to say you are. I just learned what I need to do to reach that distance I’ve been missing. Keep these type of videos coming. Love it!
Simon you’re awesome I know most pros have to love the sport but I get the feeling from you that you love it the most you have a true passion and just pure enjoyment from disc golf and that’s how I feel about it keep up the great work man!
I wish I could go back 5 years and watch this before ever picking up a disc. It’s so hard to overwrite years of muscle memory to make corrections to your form. My goal this spring is to spend a week going through these tips step by step in a field before ever stepping foot on a course. Thank you Simon for taking the time to break everything down in detail. You say you aren’t a professional teacher but this is by far the most comprehensive demonstration I’ve seen on the topic.
Probably the best intermediate level instructional video I have seen. The frame by frame really helps, you can see how much more powerful Simon's posture is throughout his run-up and throw than Micheal's.
Every clinic I have watched by you improves my game a little at a time as I incorporate into my game. I met you briefly at USDGC as I was leaving and you were heading back to the club house. You signed my caddy book. I made the AM doubles and it was my first big tournament. Pros like you give the game a great name. Keep up the good work as a player and ambassador to this game that has changed my life. Thank you.
Will Schusterick is the master of leaving the disc behind, and moving past/around it. I swear, it's like it's nailed to the spot before he begins to bring it forward. One of the easiest ways of all time to improve your shot-making.
Best form lesson I can recall ever seeing, I would only suggest not making any comments of criticism about your own efforts during the presentation. Try simply staying on task.
That was a great break down Simon, one thing I never see is people talk about is the transition from the block or plant to the follow through rotation and what your body needs to do to get there
This was absolutely mind blowing. I went front 150 to 220 avg on drives. I hit 408 today after 2 days trying to get some muscle memory off this. 10/10 thank you man. I adjusted to just a 3 step for now looking forward to the distance with the 4th step when it finally comes. God bless
Simon...thank you. This is huge. This video may single handedly help me fix my form and get that max distance. I've been working on hitting 500 ft drives all year. Now, after studying your video, I am going to be able to fix my form.
Thank you. I'm new to dish golf and this video helps. To put 2 throwers side by side to see form is so helpful. I've watch a lot of your videos now and this is the type of stuff I wanna see. Thanks!
I've watched a lot of clinic videos and this is the most concise, professional, and easily understood instructional videos I've seen. I've always been impressed with your demeanor on the course, and this adds to my belief that you're a top ambassador for the sport. Thanks for taking the time to help us become better golfers and enjoy the game even more.
Super helpful. What might seem very basic to experienced disc golfers, like don't step straight ahead, but more to the left, is really insightful to us beginners!
Hey Simon, auch wenns schon ein starkes 3/4 Jahr her ist. Ich muss mich bei Dir für dieses grandiose Video bedanken. Ich find kaum Worte, was diese 13 Minuten mit meinem Spiel angestellt haben. Ich spiele erst seit 3-4 Monaten. Heute dieses und Dein Hyzer/Anhyzer Video gesehen, auf den Course gegangen und Instant meinen persönlichen Rekord unterboten und so viele Par geworfen wie noch nie. Mein Spielpartner hat mich überhaupt nicht wieder erkannt. Jeder einzelne Tip ist/war Gold wert und hat alles verändert. Kein Scherz! Jetzt tut allerdings der rechte Fuß /eher die rechte Leistengegend weh (das ausdrehen klappt noch nicht so). Besonders geil: Dein Tip einfach nur mal mit dem Putter an den Start zu gehen. Um weiteren Wall of Text zu sparen: es war einfach nur unglaublich! DANKE!
Simon always puts on the best clinics, gives the best tips, and explains everything in an easy to understand way. Which is even more impressive considering English isn't his native language. I'll watch this video probably 100 times or more. Keep up the awesome work with the vlogs. They are very entertaining.
By your metric, I can guarantee this video is a success because it made a significant impact on my D just watching the first 4:30! I have been watching lots of pro tournaments on youtube and had keyed in on the 90 degree snap forward of the plant foot and while I knew it had to be important but because I was moving forward in a straight line it made no sense. I had not put it together that the forward foot needed to be so far to the left (right handed). I haven't even watched past 4:30 since I wanted to concentrate on this one part of my technique. I honestly can't thank you enough for helping me break through my distance plateau I have been on for three months since starting to play 6 months ago!
This was actually insanely helpful. Having good form next to the critique is such a great training aide. Also longer videos aren't necessarily a bad thing.
This is exactly the stuff I've been trying to pass on to a few friends of mine. You did a great job hitting each point and explaining the reasoning behind the movement itself. Nice work!
It amazes me that no matter how many videos I watch on driving form and technique I can always find one that covers stuff I've never heard before. This is one of the best videos I've watched. I still can't drive very far (max is 360' with a very favorable slope, average maybe 275-290) but this video gives me a lot of things to look at next time. For me, I stopped throwing nose up first, then worked on the reach back for the biggest gains but I haven't been paying attention to my plant foot as much and I'm still not good at rotating on the heel yet. Thank you for this video.
Really enjoyed this video Simon. I would love to see more. Maybe addressing some of the techniques of different release angles as your arm gets stronger. How to control power.
This is a great video. It made me realize that my plant foot is too far to the right (RHBH throw) and not allowing my lower body to give enough power. Once this oblique tear (😢) heals I will start incorporating all this when I’m 100%.
Thanks so much, Simon and thank you, Michael. Best break down of proper backhand technique I've ever seen! I've been discing for over a decade and this answered questions I've had as well as shown me things I didn't know I was doing wrong. Very nice.
Simon, I'm new to playing and watching disc golf. You are definitely one of my favorite pros-- I really like all the things you are posting and streaming. I wish you a speedy recovery from your injuries and a great comeback. Maybe fairly soon you can at least be putting. As an armchair critic who admittedly knows little about the sport I would venture to say that you remind me a little of John Daly on the PGA-- renowned for your distance drives, but not necessarily renowned for winning lots of majors. The difference? Course management, short game, and most of all, putting. I'm sure you know this! But you're a great guy, I love how much you share, and I wish you the very, very best in career and in life.
Great points. You can see the power you can generate after a slow & steady walk up with pros like Emerson Keith who may be smaller in stature than others but absolutely explodes and rips. I always think about Drew Gibson's comparison of busting through a door when keeping your elbow and shoulder at 90 degrees when you pull through.
Sincerely Simon, my great thanks for taking the time to do this. That extra form detail you gave is what helps break it down (at least for me) so I can understand the specific things to work on. It also shows that you're trying to take the time to really make sure everything is explained correctly. I had a revelation about a year ago where I got up to throwing about 350', but I've been capped at that for awhile now, and really plan on getting over 400' with some decent control. Even though it's cold here, I'm gonna find some time to get out for some field work and put these tips to use. I was already a fan of yours and the way you play, but this brought it further and it just seems like you're a good dude in general. Cheers man, and thanks again. Good luck in 2019!
Rod and Bobs.com www.disclights .com (disc golf beacons) I have one on every one of my discs. I play at night almost as much as during the day but you have to be familiar with the course and basket locations even if you light the baskets. It makes them easier to find than they are in the day time, just be careful of branches I have been poked in the many times trying to get to my disc or even just trying to bend over to pick it up.
So great to hear form tips from one of the world's best. Thanks Michael! Also, Simon - your command of the English language continues to impress. Thanks!
Well Simon really cool. Very helpful for me I'm coming out of an injury 9 months ago I need every little bit of help I can to gain distance back. now that I know you're out they're making these videos, I'll be sure to watch them.
Thanks for taking the time to make this. Great idea doing the side by side with another player who has more of an “Everyman” form. Very helpful and easy to understand, can’t wait to try the tips.
Wow man, really killing it. 3 for 3 on these vlogs. Very easy to understand tips, and hit on a few of the things that I struggle with for consistent distance. Awesome!!
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Good stuff Simon. Learned a lot!
JomezPro yeah👍🏼😎👍🏼
Get ready for all them follow flights boys and gals !!!
Hey! Stop trolling! Don't you have some winter tourneys you could be covering? 😂
Such good basic reminders to look for and work on. Don't worry about the length, I would, and will, have watched more!
Hey I know you
I love how Simon says he's not a "good teacher" and then proceeds to give us the best video breakdown of form and all the mechanics imo. Great job sky God
Personally I think Danny Lindahl and then the Physics of Flight series are the overall best, but this is definitely an extremely solid video.
@@chauncey33 i have a lot of trouble watching danny's wispy mustache for extended periods of time. Maybe it's just me
@@megamrsoftee its not only you.
@@GuysInGreenHats lol. He has shaved it as of late, so I'm open to the new videos. Theyre definitely a good teacher, I like their player form videos.
TheMahs Gaming I think Danny has a lot of interesting theories and breakdowns. However looking for tips on how to throw far and more acurate, I prefer taking them from Simon who is an actual world class distance thrower and player. These videos are great and to think that we get them for free is almost crazy. Imagine Michael Jordan posting weekly videos on how to become a better basketball player, when he was in his prime. Thanks for this awesome content Mr. Lizotte!
I have a feeling I will be watching this many times
Simon, I realize this video is 5 years old, but... we need more SIMON SAYS videos. The world needs it.
Great tips. I really need to work on my plant foot... And my legs... And upper body. Oh and my arms.
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Like for Dylan!
And my timing and my release and my grip and my arm speed and my angle control and my follow through
Don't forget about disc angle, follow through, rubber band, slingshot, power, momentum, and not injuring yourself lol.
It's a ton to learn
I am 67 year old just started but really enjoyed this thanks
That's awesome! This is a great sport for all ages.
I'm a 60 year old Brit. Have never played disc golf but am hooked on watching Jomez view and would love to start playing, although there are not that many courses here in the UK. What sort of distance do you throw and what should I expect as a reasonably fit 60 year old?
Cool! You can probably get by with a practice basket and any football field will do to train up your driving and mid range game. You can practice putts at home. A regulation practice target goes for 100$-200$. On the Innova website there is a page with all their discs listed by stability and speed. I started with Aviar for putter, Roc for midrange, and Eagle for driver. If you have strong grip, then use maximum weight discs. If you don't consider yourself to have hands of iron, then maybe around 170g. My magic number is 168g, but I throw a 180g Roc accurately from 40-99 meters, 170g putter for under 40 meters, 168g, 8-9 speed driver for 100-130 meters, and 168-170g, speed 12-13 for anything over 130 meters. Then you just need the discs that make the shapes that give you all the possibilities. Start with the discs listed toward the right side of the Innova chart, which are more understable. This will be more forgiving for new players. Start with speed 8-9 drivers and get your hand speed up til you feel you are ready for faster discs. That takes time and experimentation. One thing I did was start early throwing heavy midrange discs until I could launch them 100m. This made learning any disc easy. But to get started, you need to have one concept at the core of your throwing style: low, flat, straight. ALL beginners release early, aim the nose up, and hyzer out short and left. Figure out what kind of footwork, reach-back, and grip work for you through trial and error. Make everything as simple and clean as possible. Make only the moves you can name a reason for making. Then just work on getting your reach-back to a point that is "180"-ish degrees away from your target. Make your swing as flat as you can throughout the swing, so your starting point and finish point are the similar height. Hold the disc naturally, but swing it flat the whole way to the release, so the shot comes out low, flat. and straight. You achieve loft through spin, not angle trajectory.
Think of your throwing mechanics as an arrow whip, where your body is the stick, your arm is the strap, and your disc is the arrow. Your body will bend and charge the energy, your arm will stretch back as if the disc were held like the knocked arrow. This energy storage and tension are the secrets to powerful throws. But you can only throw with the power you can control. Start with the midrange. Standing at half field, throw it into the net. Work the midrange at the football field until you can put it in either corner from the opposite end of the pitch. Then try corner to corner with your long range driver. The chart is going to help you learn about the disc ratings: there are 4 numbers- speed, glide, high speed turn, low speed fade. In the beginning, you will need some negative high speed turn numbers for your drivers. Otherwise, you might try to throw a destroyer right away, but the -1 might not show itself. So a destroyer will seem really stable and only turn left for you. (assuming right handed backhand) But a Daedalus has a -3 and will turn a little more even if you don't get the shot perfectly flat. This will give you longer straight flight in a helix shape, first turning right, then fading left, but basically ending up in a straight line from you to the target. As you learn to control your swing, you will get to a point where you are getting what the disc rating says it can do. This is how you will know when you are ready to move to more stable and faster discs. Try to do a few things instead of everything at first. Learn one driver, one mid, one putter at a time. Once you find a mid and putter that you like, you are good for now. The drivers take more time to learn. Learn the low, flat, straight shot first and this, when combined with good disc selection will give you 80% of the shots you would ever need. Sidearm throws are necessary for low ceiling shots that need to turn right harder than an anhyzer can give. Rollers are necessary for various reasons, but may require extensive experimentation. Overhand shots are necessary for scrambling out of trouble or shooting over obstacles. They are pretty easy to get: thumb under goes left then fades right, fingers under goes right then fades left. They slide in upside down so watch out for pine straw=zoom.
Footwork is your foundation. Start by walking up like you were going to jump off a diving board, one step, hop step, foot together, jump= one step, cross step, foot plant, throw. Once you discover the rhythm that works for your body type, you can add speed later as needed.
Grip is one of the most important, but individualized things to talk about. Some unorthodox players have two-finger grip or some other odd style that cannot be replicated by 99% of other people. I use a modified power grip for my midrange, which takes away a lot of power because I move my first finger to the rim instead of underneath. But for powerful drives, I need all my fingers under there pulling hard. Keep them tight together and let your thumb rest back away from the edge as if it was pointing straight down your arm. Keeping the fingers tight together provides more explosive spinning torque, so when your joints unfold, the spinning energy is driven from a smaller arc with more force. Imagine you are a giant spring. Each joint in your body is a lock. Wind them up in reverse sequence: fingers-wrist-elbow-shoulder-core-hip-heel. NOW imagine all the energy unfolding rapidly in succession: It starts on the run up. When the foot gets planted, you want to spin on your heel. This is why stepping out a little bit is helpful. Having your foot on a 90 degree angle will facilitate a smoother heel-spin. It also keeps your foot aligned with your lead shoulder for better balance. You will use more or less of any one portion for your own comfort and safety. I have to watch out for my double jointed elbows so I compensate by running up a little faster and really throwing my body into it. But as all the locks unfold, they are in sequence, but moving in an overlapping smooth form that blurs together seamlessly when done correctly.
Finally: commitment=confidence. A good shot is a confident shot. A confident shot takes commitment. Golf is all about mental puzzles we unlock with our bodies, but we solve first in our minds. A good decision is more valuable than a strong back. 99% of bad shots come from a disc selection error that then leads to a miscalculation and faulty execution. Commit to a strong grip, a hard throw, and a smooth effort. Commit to low, flat, straight. Get comfortable with this shot and then anything becomes possible. Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.
Ian Barnes I have been playing for a few months now, that is exactly how I got into it. I ended up watching a couple jomezpro videos and got hooked. Then I ended up playing every day for a while. Now I’m really hooked!!
@@lokinakor1 This is incredibly good advice!
Rotating the body around the disc. When you said that and then watching it in the video it was like a lightbulb clicked on! Time to go hit the field!
Same here! My reach back always felt forced. That tip made a huge difference
I agree! I heard that and instantly thought about a trebuche... you know how the rock stays on the ground and the giant machine rotates until it snaps the rock forward?
Cant wait to go practice.
@@jaronwatkins3103 great analogy!
@@friendlyplayer92 Yes, conservation of angular momentum is, I believe, a physics-styled way of saying it.
Interesting
The German genius! In my mind's eye, my form is like Simon's. In reality, it is not even as good as Michael's. Great video!
haha this is exactly how I feel when I see video of myself. But the more video i see of myself the more I can feel how off I am during the throw
I throw forehand and I'm learning backhand. This video has changed my backhand forever. 1st day focusing on spacing my feet & keeping my disc still was life changing! Lol. 1week later it's unreal how much improvement I've made just from those 2 things. I know this video is 2years old but man I'd pay for more like this one! Watched countless videos & nothing has helped my backhand more than this. Thank you!
Watching Simon throw is like watching ballet dancing or something. It's so graceful and effortless. I could watch him throw for hours and never get tired of seeing his form. This man is a god amongst men. Can't wait to see you back out on tour again. This is your year Simon! Go get em!
I’m impressed. You have an unparalleled ability to instruct. I have instructed rifle exhibition teams for years and your terms and instruction techniques are something I can take notes from. You are an absolute legend as a player, and a man.
HOLY SHIT!! Just found this oldish Simon video and realized I was doing nearly the same thing as Michael. I merely changed my step from being straight in front of my back foot to across the t-pad and INSTANTLY added 100 feet to my backhand!! MOST HELPFUL tip I've ever gotten. Thank you Simon!
Nice! Thanks Simon! This was really helpful! Now show us how you throw that #1 forehand! ;-)
Life in a Bus Hear hear! Definitely a forehand comparison would be an awesome tool for us hackers. Thank you.
Damn it Simon! I watched this video and it improved my power so much that now my whole bag is too understable! 😂 For real though, after watching a ton of videos on form this is the one that made it click for me. It’s improved my game so much! Thank you!!
i feel this as well. having to relearn my bag as i progress its a pretty rad experience
I experienced this change as well, but well before I discovered this video...only going from like 240 foot to maybe 280 foot drives, but had to change discs
OMG, that is by far the best video ever on backhand driving technique! You may not think of yourself as a coach, but you're awesome at it! Thank you! Also, I just love your positive attitude on the course!
Thanks for the great tips Simon. As someone who is older and getting into disc golf, it is nice to know I can improve my distance with technique rather than ripping my shoulder out of its socket :)
This might be my 10th time watching this in the last 3 years. It's my go-to form comparison video.
Thank you so much for it 🙂
My 70 year old Father in Law and myself are still watching this video to improve on are form! The best video I've seen for backhand. I really enjoy your videos Simon! Keep up the good work! Let's go Throw!
Saw this video yesterday. Today threw 20 meters further than ever. Simon, you're the king.
This is literally the best form critique I’ve ever seen. Wow!
I started disc golf as hobby 6 month ago. With this video i fix some errors from my distance throw. Your videos are great. Thank you very much.
What I have discovered is that that elbow pointing down is entirely a symptom of being too early with shoulder rotation, and I completely agree that you have to start working from the steps and forward. If you're not in the correct position for your pull, there's no chance of getting the rest of it correct either... But that timing of the rubber band is so difficult as everything happens so fast... Not giving up though :).
For saying that you're not a teacher you sure taught the shit out of this video! I like that you mentioned that your plant foot position is extreme and for not everyone to copy you to that extent per se. Everything was explained in a straight forward, easy to digest manner. I'm gonna show this to my brother who is finally catching the disc golf bug and has oodles of natural talent. Thanks for putting in the time to do this.
Easily the best form video on the web. His tips on the plant foot have added so much power to my throw
Why would anyone in their right mind dislike anything disc golf? This sport really keeps me on the level mentally and physically... Plus there is nothing better than hearing those chains ring! Way to go Simon you are really doing great on your videos man keep up the good work
This is the best damn back hand tutorial video ever!! Thx Simon!
This would be a great start to a whole series of tutorials. The amount of editing you’ve done is mind boggling for this short vid but SOOO helpful. Please continue! Thank you.
Come on, now, Simon. How are you gonna start the video off by saying you aren’t a coach and then proceed to coach all of us with detail to perfection? Thanks for your videos. You nail it every time. Much appreciation. This video helped me a lot. Your mission is accomplished.
"I'm basically moving my body around the disc." A great way to phrase it!
Yes! It is mind blowing to imagine doing all the extra swinging like I used to and many others do. It looks more like a pure swing when you place the disc in front, then approach it with the run up, then move around and past it, all while it stays basically still. I love this concept! I wanted to think about the disc being clamped in place, and me stretching out in front of it and then a release like a catapult with my arm as the launcher. When I do it right, it DOES feel like the disc is held in place and my energy builds while I stretch out in front of the disc. Then it all comes out together on the rip. Watching this video gave me 3 things to work on... fixing one of the things gave me an extra 50 feet! If I fix the other two things, I'm going pro.
Simon... wow brother. As an ex baseball guy, BH timing is still super weird for me. 2 things in this video helped me add about 30' my very first field session; the disc staying in place and setting up around it during the walk up and plant foot being much further left. The planting left is going to help a ton! Can't wait to get more reps in. 400' here I come...
This is so fantastic!!! Are you going to work with Michael and record you coaching him up and perfecting his form? That would be a great series. The Vlog time was not long at all. Keep up the great work.
Benjamin Medlock, what an excellent idea. It would be also nice to know how many meters more driving distance Michael gains during the process 😃
This is brilliant. The amount of control he has over his body is incredible!
Hi Simon. I'm 55 and found this addiction called disc golf 4 years ago. Been a fan of you since day one. Love your passion and showmanship. Rock on!
And about the single thumb down, could it be Eagle messing with you? 😂
Wow....very inspirational.... been playing for a month now .... this, this video is just what I NEEDED... sometimes one of my drives really zips... now I know why.... thank you @Simon
Simon, this is the best instructional video on the subject out there!
DO IT AGAIN! You can just show us your form, explaining as you go. Do one on forehand too. I am watching this every few days until I totally get it. Thank you for this!!!
Been coming back to this video for a couple weeks. My form was Horrible but I'm getting it down one piece at a time. I still need to work on my foot placement and getting my back turned more for maximum rotation but already I'm improving distance with less effort. Hands down best video I've seen for improving form.
If your talking about disc and being fun! You can make videos 30+mins so don't worry about how long! We will love it!! Make sure they are at least 10mins though so you get that add $$
I am 66 and back in the game after a 15 year absence, I had a friend video me several weeks ago and I found a number of mistakes (hopping, no crossover step, no follow through) but after watching this video I found that I was not only planting my right foot straight forward but even further to the right plus I was also starting the disc way out in front of me! Lots to improve on, great video!
I hope you’re still ripping!!!!
So you say your not a teacher, I have to say you are. I just learned what I need to do to reach that distance I’ve been missing. Keep these type of videos coming. Love it!
Theres a reason these form critiques are so highly upvoted. Great content.
Simon you’re awesome I know most pros have to love the sport but I get the feeling from you that you love it the most you have a true passion and just pure enjoyment from disc golf and that’s how I feel about it keep up the great work man!
I wish I could go back 5 years and watch this before ever picking up a disc. It’s so hard to overwrite years of muscle memory to make corrections to your form. My goal this spring is to spend a week going through these tips step by step in a field before ever stepping foot on a course.
Thank you Simon for taking the time to break everything down in detail. You say you aren’t a professional teacher but this is by far the most comprehensive demonstration I’ve seen on the topic.
Probably the best intermediate level instructional video I have seen. The frame by frame really helps, you can see how much more powerful Simon's posture is throughout his run-up and throw than Micheal's.
Thanks Michael and Simon as always. And thanks Nate for providing the wardrobe.
Every clinic I have watched by you improves my game a little at a time as I incorporate into my game. I met you briefly at USDGC as I was leaving and you were heading back to the club house. You signed my caddy book. I made the AM doubles and it was my first big tournament. Pros like you give the game a great name. Keep up the good work as a player and ambassador to this game that has changed my life. Thank you.
Went from placing 4th with my guys to winning the last 2 rounds we've played because of this. Thanks Simon!
Will Schusterick is the master of leaving the disc behind, and moving past/around it. I swear, it's like it's nailed to the spot before he begins to bring it forward. One of the easiest ways of all time to improve your shot-making.
Absolute gold. I watch this over and over for form tips. Great stuff, Simon.
Best form lesson I can recall ever seeing, I would only suggest not making any comments of criticism about your own efforts during the presentation. Try simply staying on task.
I appreciate the point Simon made about moving around the disc . I will wat h this a few more times . Thanks.
The slow mo comparison was amazing for learning and really seeing what youre talking about. Great vid would love to see more.
Still one of the best instructional videos I have ever seen for discgolf! Well done, Simon!
Been playing for 20+ years - One of the BEST instructional videos I've seen! Keep up the great work!
That was a great break down Simon, one thing I never see is people talk about is the transition from the block or plant to the follow through rotation and what your body needs to do to get there
Such a great video Simon! Thanks so much. Would love more like this for other types of shots!
That was the best video on explaining the backhand I have ever seen. Forehand Please!! Thank you Simon. Say hey to Katana!!
Simon great video . thanks. I am 78 yrs old play at Vista in Scottsdale every day,trying to get it 200 feet. Learned alot
Best form video I have ever seen. Wish I had watched this 2 years ago.
Simon! Almost did not recognize you without a cap! Subbed instantly. Love from Finland.
Best video I’ve seen so far on technique fundamentals. Perfect practice makes perfect!! Thank you for the love.
This was absolutely mind blowing. I went front 150 to 220 avg on drives. I hit 408 today after 2 days trying to get some muscle memory off this. 10/10 thank you man. I adjusted to just a 3 step for now looking forward to the distance with the 4th step when it finally comes. God bless
Simon...thank you. This is huge. This video may single handedly help me fix my form and get that max distance. I've been working on hitting 500 ft drives all year. Now, after studying your video, I am going to be able to fix my form.
Thank you. I'm new to dish golf and this video helps. To put 2 throwers side by side to see form is so helpful. I've watch a lot of your videos now and this is the type of stuff I wanna see. Thanks!
I've watched a lot of clinic videos and this is the most concise, professional, and easily understood instructional videos I've seen.
I've always been impressed with your demeanor on the course, and this adds to my belief that you're a top ambassador for the sport.
Thanks for taking the time to help us become better golfers and enjoy the game even more.
This guys breakdown is amazing helped me gain some distance for sure
Super helpful. What might seem very basic to experienced disc golfers, like don't step straight ahead, but more to the left, is really insightful to us beginners!
Hey Simon, auch wenns schon ein starkes 3/4 Jahr her ist. Ich muss mich bei Dir für dieses grandiose Video bedanken. Ich find kaum Worte, was diese 13 Minuten mit meinem Spiel angestellt haben. Ich spiele erst seit 3-4 Monaten. Heute dieses und Dein Hyzer/Anhyzer Video gesehen, auf den Course gegangen und Instant meinen persönlichen Rekord unterboten und so viele Par geworfen wie noch nie. Mein Spielpartner hat mich überhaupt nicht wieder erkannt. Jeder einzelne Tip ist/war Gold wert und hat alles verändert. Kein Scherz! Jetzt tut allerdings der rechte Fuß /eher die rechte Leistengegend weh (das ausdrehen klappt noch nicht so). Besonders geil: Dein Tip einfach nur mal mit dem Putter an den Start zu gehen. Um weiteren Wall of Text zu sparen: es war einfach nur unglaublich! DANKE!
This has to be one of the best step by step tutorials on form! Camera shots and the explanation in the slow motion was a real nice touch!
Definitely one of the best instructional videos on form that I have seen. Time to get to work. Thanks Simon.
Simon always puts on the best clinics, gives the best tips, and explains everything in an easy to understand way. Which is even more impressive considering English isn't his native language. I'll watch this video probably 100 times or more. Keep up the awesome work with the vlogs. They are very entertaining.
I have watched this video many times now. Absolutely learned more from this video than any other on TH-cam. Thanks for sharing Simon
How have I not seen this one by now? Best form breakdown on youtube. Good luck at world's!
By your metric, I can guarantee this video is a success because it made a significant impact on my D just watching the first 4:30! I have been watching lots of pro tournaments on youtube and had keyed in on the 90 degree snap forward of the plant foot and while I knew it had to be important but because I was moving forward in a straight line it made no sense. I had not put it together that the forward foot needed to be so far to the left (right handed). I haven't even watched past 4:30 since I wanted to concentrate on this one part of my technique. I honestly can't thank you enough for helping me break through my distance plateau I have been on for three months since starting to play 6 months ago!
This video is the one I always come back to. Each time I feel like I pull a little more from it. Great work, Simon!
This was actually insanely helpful. Having good form next to the critique is such a great training aide. Also longer videos aren't necessarily a bad thing.
This is exactly the stuff I've been trying to pass on to a few friends of mine. You did a great job hitting each point and explaining the reasoning behind the movement itself. Nice work!
For realz....these are some of the best pointers I've ever seen in one place!!! Thank you Simon and Michael! Viva la Bitcoin!
It amazes me that no matter how many videos I watch on driving form and technique I can always find one that covers stuff I've never heard before. This is one of the best videos I've watched. I still can't drive very far (max is 360' with a very favorable slope, average maybe 275-290) but this video gives me a lot of things to look at next time. For me, I stopped throwing nose up first, then worked on the reach back for the biggest gains but I haven't been paying attention to my plant foot as much and I'm still not good at rotating on the heel yet. Thank you for this video.
Very useful. Good analysis and instruction. Too many confusing tutorials by pros on TH-cam, but this one is accessible to all us beginners.
Really enjoyed this video Simon. I would love to see more. Maybe addressing some of the techniques of different release angles as your arm gets stronger. How to control power.
This is a great video. It made me realize that my plant foot is too far to the right (RHBH throw) and not allowing my lower body to give enough power. Once this oblique tear (😢) heals I will start incorporating all this when I’m 100%.
Im watching this 4 years later as im getting into disc golf, this was so helpful i was doing it all wrong
Incredible advice. Very helpful for me. Thanks
Thanks so much, Simon and thank you, Michael. Best break down of proper backhand technique I've ever seen! I've been discing for over a decade and this answered questions I've had as well as shown me things I didn't know I was doing wrong. Very nice.
This is by far the best video on youtube on backhand form.
Best throwing breakdown by far I've ever seen!!!!
This whole time I haven't been placing my right foot forward when releasing the disc and I think that'll be a game changer. Thanks Simon!!
By far the best tutorial video of any kind I have ever watched!!
This video was fantastic. The breakdown of each step from start to finish was great.
Simon, I'm new to playing and watching disc golf. You are definitely one of my favorite pros-- I really like all the things you are posting and streaming. I wish you a speedy recovery from your injuries and a great comeback. Maybe fairly soon you can at least be putting. As an armchair critic who admittedly knows little about the sport I would venture to say that you remind me a little of John Daly on the PGA-- renowned for your distance drives, but not necessarily renowned for winning lots of majors. The difference? Course management, short game, and most of all, putting. I'm sure you know this! But you're a great guy, I love how much you share, and I wish you the very, very best in career and in life.
Never ever thought about stepping forward with my plant, immediately helped.
Great points. You can see the power you can generate after a slow & steady walk up with pros like Emerson Keith who may be smaller in stature than others but absolutely explodes and rips. I always think about Drew Gibson's comparison of busting through a door when keeping your elbow and shoulder at 90 degrees when you pull through.
This is one of the best form videos I've ever seen and I've seen a lot.
Sincerely Simon, my great thanks for taking the time to do this. That extra form detail you gave is what helps break it down (at least for me) so I can understand the specific things to work on. It also shows that you're trying to take the time to really make sure everything is explained correctly. I had a revelation about a year ago where I got up to throwing about 350', but I've been capped at that for awhile now, and really plan on getting over 400' with some decent control. Even though it's cold here, I'm gonna find some time to get out for some field work and put these tips to use.
I was already a fan of yours and the way you play, but this brought it further and it just seems like you're a good dude in general. Cheers man, and thanks again. Good luck in 2019!
Great stuff, Simon! ...Now I want to go throw, but it's dark outside... Damn!
Rod and Bobs.com www.disclights .com (disc golf beacons) I have one on every one of my discs. I play at night almost as much as during the day but you have to be familiar with the course and basket locations even if you light the baskets. It makes them easier to find than they are in the day time, just be careful of branches I have been poked in the many times trying to get to my disc or even just trying to bend over to pick it up.
Hang a really heavy blanket up and throw into it
So great to hear form tips from one of the world's best. Thanks Michael! Also, Simon - your command of the English language continues to impress. Thanks!
Well Simon really cool. Very helpful for me I'm coming out of an injury 9 months ago I need every little bit of help I can to gain distance back. now that I know you're out they're making these videos, I'll be sure to watch them.
Thanks for taking the time to make this. Great idea doing the side by side with another player who has more of an “Everyman” form. Very helpful and easy to understand, can’t wait to try the tips.
Wow man, really killing it. 3 for 3 on these vlogs. Very easy to understand tips, and hit on a few of the things that I struggle with for consistent distance. Awesome!!
After 3 months after initially watching this video, my practice has helped me gain about 50-60 feet so far! Thanks Simon!