Lol I think most arms are capable of this. Just most of us don’t reach this level of flexibility. Just like most of us can’t replicate many Ballet stretches and poses.
There's a Marvel Character Super Hero Story here....What was going on in the Mountains of Colorado In the Late 90's? How was He born? Were his wings surgically removed so he could live among humans. From what world is Jeff Korns? Did you say Hybrid, because your DNA was in fact utilized in his manufacture? It's a Movie?
no, hes hypermobile and is at risk for serious rotator cuff injuries if he doesn't improve his posture and rotator cuff strength, Get on that Seth at DGS, help this kids anterior and posterior chain strength to improve his stability.
I’ve coached (tennis) professionally for over 12 years and this is the highest caliber technical breakdown of any disc golf stroke that I have ever seen. This is the future of the game-quality information. Teaching individuals to master the proper biomechanics of any pursuit after putting in countless hours of your own study on and off the practice field is truly a gift. Well done sir
Matt Odenwelder I played tennis in high school and the forehand is very similar in getting into that athletic stance and generating power from the hips
I agree with you, Matt. I coached tennis and swimming for a decade - Eagle's demo was right on - balance of slightly funny here and there, but really a great overall demo. And in the end, the most important advice - 'practice, practice, practice.'
Eagle, you are really becoming a great teacher--your insights (especially around the mental game, and the practice of disc wisdom) imply a maturity beyond your age and I really resonate with it. There is a deeper knowledge available to the neophyte than just the physical techniques you present here--your poise and also your honesty and authenticity are what actually come through--'the medium is the message' said Neil Postman. Our journey in disc golf is our journey thru life, and so although the followers of this vlog may not be able to throw a side arm 400 ft, we can all embrace the ecstasy of a side arm landing next to the basket (at whatever distance) or the visceral disappointment of a shank. Last year, I cracked my ribs smashing a tree skiing glades here in Western Colorado, and for 2 months could only throw side-arm. As a result my game was reinvented. Sometimes we avoid the things we think we're not good at. But my side-arm didn't improve until I had to throw side-arm. This is a weird time right now, but to the open hearted, it is a great opportunity to go deeper into the disc golf life, to embrace the challenges we face, and to show love to our fellow disc golfers despite adversity.
Eagle: Thank you for this video! I'm 60 years old, been playing since Jan 2019, and forehand was my main throw. I just wasn't accurate nor did I have distance. My backhand was (and still is) a work in progress. I watched probably every single forehand video available and then I saw Simon Lizotte's where he compares his form to yours. So that lead me to check out your video. At home, I practiced the steps and throwing motion (although I did not try to get my arm to bend like yours - you must be double-jointed). This past weekend I went to the course (ours in Arizona are still open) and had a round with some of the people I normally play with. It was the first time I played using what I learned from your video and they were amazed at the change and suggested I become forehand-dominate. I let everyone know it was due to your video and that they should check it out. Thanks again and keep the great videos coming. (My backhand got me the nickname "Wild Bill" as no one knows where the throw is going, but it isn't safe to be to my right or behind me).
Please. I'm just starting off and I can launch a forehand (played baseball my entire childhood) but I cant get ANY distance on a backhand. It literally goes 100 feet and that's a stretch
@@johnathonscheurer1233 snapping a towel, or pulling a lawn mower cord on a picnic table were good analogies that helped me. Also, follow through with hips, so you end up swinging body around after release, where you're standing with left foot in front, facing with body opposite of arm you are throwing at the end. Those all helped me crank backhands
I'm a total beginner in disc golf. I played my first full round yesterday at the Evergreen disc course in Goleta yesterday and was very happy to get 18 OVER par over 18 holes. (I did have several pars and even a birdie, so that's cool! Three pars in a row on holes 15, 16, and 17 made me feel like a champ). I've been watching you guys play on TH-cam. I just watched your win in Michigan where you asked if you needed to make the putt and tour director said yes, but you didn't realize that if you sank it you would WIN. That was so great. And your comments after the win showed me that you have a great mindset, expressing gratitude to your supporters, girlfriend, and family. Also how you just focus on playing the course and managing your own mind and your own play, not focusing on what other players are doing. And now this video. I hope disc golf grows enough that you can make a good living at it, because you are clearly amazing at what you do and deserve everything that comes to you. Thank you for this great lesson, too. So well explained! And I hope your elbow tendons and shoulder joint stay healthy forever....so you don't have to switch to lefty! ;-) I'm actually somewhat ambidextrous so I'm working on a few lefty chip shots so they are available options when I'm stuck behind a bush or tree....
This is probably the most in depth explanation of a forehand throw that I have ever seen. I feel that this was much needed because there is so much information and breakdown of the backhand, but comparatively little about the forehand. There's definitely nothing this thorough. Thank you for this, sir.
I love the example with the left hand throw. Ive been using it every time I teach friends and beginners to play, as it keeps them from getting discouraged when they look at your example throws and cant produce anything close to it.
This kid is incredible. From the moment he came on the tour he’s displayed it all. Insane forehand distance, insane backhand distance, deadly putting skills. Phenom.
Z Z, give him a little more time to grow and gain experience. Eagle is without a doubt one of the best players on tour. He is still young and putting it all together... but if you can’t recognize he has all the tools, then I don’t know what to tell u bud.
@Z Z what nonsense. In tennis you might have someone with a not great serve who still wins because their other shots and movement get them over the line. Their opponent who aces them often has a better serve. It's nuanced thinking, don't go mad on it straight away as you'll end up more confused, but try it in little bits to get yourself started.
Great video! I'm 65 years old and just getting into it, with the help of my sons who have been doing it for a few years. I don't get much power out of backhand therefore prefer forehand. I am working on accuracy now. I am heading out tomorrow to a soccer field to practice what I saw you teaching in this vid. Btw, if my elbow bends like yours does, it's because I just snapped it 😂😂
Okay, I had to come back to share my experience incorporating some of Eagle's advice in this video. 2024 will mark 20 years of disc golf for me; for whatever reason I never really committed myself to learning forehand shots until the last couple of years. I was getting better but still unable to throw well over 250 feet or so. Today I practiced the shuffle, "baseball"-like throw and "hammer the nail" concept that Eagle presents, and I threw straight and over 300 feet about four times during a round. The best was about 320. THANK YOU, EAGLE! I feel like my game just went up a big notch and can't wait to keep working on the forehand. I found that a somewhat short and under control shuffle was best, keep it as movement free as possible until I can start working on more power and so on. Watch this video and improve your game, y'all!
"Your hips are like your chest for a forehand" Hands down the best piece of advice I've heard as an ultimate player who can crush a backhand, but struggles mightily with the flick. Thank you!
Veryveryveryveryveryvery useful forehand tips my man! Can you pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease do similar video for backhand? It would be so appreciated and awesome!
I practiced after watching this and gained about 20% more distance forehand. More importantly, they’ve been coming out more consistent and I’ve felt less stress on my body. ‘Fan grip’ was a godsend for getting my midranges working! Thanks Eagle!
I’ve been a recreational player since 2011 and I’ve never felt remotely confident in my sidearm nor felt like anyone properly explained to me how to do it (at least not in a way I understood) and now I’m feeling excited and motivated to apply these tips. Thank you Eagle!
Thanks Eagle! Can't wait to get out and try some of this out to improve my forehand. Thanks for taking the time to put so many angles and clips together to really show all the techniques operating in real time. Can't wait to see you back out on the course! Will you be bagging the PD3 when the season starts back up? If so, what are the shots you would use it for?
The last part of this video is the realest thing I’ve seen someone put out for advice at improving. Such a creative way to display how important pure practice is. Awesome video, the biggest thing I took away was really pushing off the back foot and planting on that front foot to transfer into the disc (south paw but I’m used to it)
Coming from a baseball, golf, throwing sports background the forehand/sidearm/flick came naturally to me. The weight transfer and hip movement is almost identical. I primarily throw RHFH and have excellent results. I'm throwing Terns, X-Cals, Apes, and my GO TO Colossus's for max distance. Max for me at the moment in no wind flat field is 450'. My fairways are Firebirds, Starfire, CD2, Thunderbirds, Sidewinders/Mambas/Daedalus(for left finishing fade), Valkyries, and Teebirds. These fairway molds are my bread and butter for any course, especially in the woods. North Carolina woods courses to be exact. I use an XT Colt for my midrange, one OS and one not so stable. Working in a flat Star AviarX3, and Champion Caiman for additional OS mids. (The Caiman is a great finesse midrange). I say all of this hoping to help others interested in forehands; so if you're confused about mold selection(I sure was), this might help. Yes, you might not throw Innova, but these molds can be a good reference for you. Note: When I started playing, 250'-300' feet drives were my MAX, but I practice daily and use resistance bands for my workouts. The practice has paid off! I'm currently working on building up my PDGA tournament "resume" and ratings.. in hopes to make it to NT/DGPT touring level soon! Peace, and stay safe! Thanks for your vids, Eagle!!
A tip for educational content: When analyzing footage like this, start with playing the whole clip so the viewers know what to expect. Then go through the clip piece by piece just as you did and then finish with playing the whole clip again. This way we the viewers know where your body is going to be during the analyze phase and, most importantly, where it's going to be. Keep up the good work! You're doing great :D
As someone who is always telling people to learn the forehand, I can say that this is the video that everyone must watch. Truly exceptional breakdown of one of the most underutilized throws in disc golf. Also thank you for the super dope Eagle McMahon AX4! I could not believe a disc golf bag could look so good! Ordered it as soon as the link dropped and have a load of new discs on the way I can't wait to try. Best of luck to you!
one of the best instructionals ive seen. Im new to this amazingly addictive sport so these pointers certainly help as i find the right discs for my throwing style and as I try different types of throws. Thanks
Thanks eagle, you made the whole throw crystal clear. I learned more from this 1 video than every other sidearm video I've ever watched combined. You are an outstanding instructor as well as a player.
I think the key to that weird looking body position you see from the side near the end of the vid, is really about what's going on at 16:49 (seen from behind). The throw starts with the disc well outside the driving line (more than a disc width and a half outside), and as your hips rotate your upper body forward, you pull your elbow in toward your hips, the disc whips inward before it goes forward, and that's what causes the lower arm and wrist to bend so far back, and build up energy like a spring, which is then released as you continue rotating forward. I started becoming aware of this while I worked on my backhand form with tutorials saying "don't extend your arm behind your body, but *out* from your upper body which is rotated back, then use hips to rotate upper body forward keeping a 90 degree ange between upper arm and body, letting your elbow bend and whip the disc back into the power pocket". Again, the disc often starts outside the driving line, so as you rotate forward the disc is sucked inward, and then whips forward. Once I could feel that happening more often (still a work in progress), I started thinking about how to get the forehand to do the same, start outside, and whip inward and then forward, rather than starting with it simply extended straight back and trying to "pull" it forward.
This is exactly how I imagined Eagle would do a forehand breakdown video. You can tell from the way the plays, that he's spent countless hours perfecting his form. And you know he's broken down every minute aspect of every shot. It's one of, if not the cleanest forms out there. I would compare his form to Federer's in tennis.
I love how honest and straight up you are about your form & technique. Some people may be tempted to leave that throw out but I learned from it as I'm sure others did. Great fore hand vid ! Thx a million mate, Good luck out there & lets get back to disc golf !!!!!
Hi Eagle, enjoyed the video. I would be really interested in a follow up video on forehand release angles. Throwing NOSE DOWN hyzers and anhyzers in particular.
Dude, this is fire! Exactly what I needed. I’ve really been struggling to learn how to get better at this type of shot, so thank you for putting in the time to teach us. Can’t wait to get out this weekend and put the reps in.
Well taught, good sir. I’ve gone to the field several times armed with your teaching, and am greatly encouraged (as a beginner) by the progress I have seen. Best advice is the focus on practice. When sound strategy/technique is combined with consistent hard work, great things happen!
so crazy you actually posted this, I've been waiting for this video for like 2 years, thank you, I truly feel I'm about to finally stop throwing 375 side arms!
Thank you for explaining what you do with your ring/pinky in the grip. It's difficult to tell if others rest the disc on the ring finger or hold it away from the disc. I'm going to try what you did. Thanks for breaking everything down, you the man. Smash.
@@jeremiaskalliokoski2702 He doesn't have the most distance either. Silver Lätt most certainly throw farther forehand. The reason Eagle's forehand may be considered the best in the world is that he has top notch accuracy (even though maybe not quite as accurate as players like Sexton, Koling, Wysocki, etc) while simultaneously having more distance than almost every other touring pro. It's the combo that makes it just about uncontested.
Thank's for this clinic Eagle. I watched this back in late summer of 2020. Went on a field and swoosh my sidearm went from none to my most confident shot. Literally in a really short period of time.
This is excellent and almost much more in-depth than prior backhand ones I've seen you give. With your pedagogical improvements, I would HIGHLY encourage you to come back and do a backhand one, please and thanks!
Perfect video for me to work on in the Fall. This Spring and Summer have all been about putting and approach. This Fall I plan to give more focus to driving and fairway shots. Thanks so much for this content which will help a lot of disc golfers who keep setting goals and dreams of being able to throw forehand or throw with more consistency to reach their ratings goals.
BIG THX EAGLE. Im a noob (played for about 8 months) i have a pretty ok forehand, but your tips gained me over 80 feet. Greetings all the way from Norway;)
Thanks for this, very helpful! Eric Oakley says much the same in his Physics of Flight forehand VLog, but great to hear it again in your words. I need to work on the wrist snap..
Very true! Eric's vid is great as well.I learned off of his video, but Eagle's just goes into great detail and break down.I can't wait to try it! I definitely picked up some other things from it that i'm excited to try.
I throw forehand 380-400ft but can only use about 70% power accurately. Backhand not so well. With that said, this video has actually corrected a couple of things I didn't know I was doing like dragging my toe. I can throw with more power accurately because of that & making sure to really transfer power into my front foot. Thanks Eagle! Wish I woulda seen this 1year ago when you posted it. 😆
Thx Eagle. I'm an old dog trying to learn the "new trick" of throwing a forehand. Your tips are helpful. Fred and I designed Idlewild to suit a player like you who can throw both forehand and backhand well. Good luck with your next contract. I think you should get an offer similar to Paul McBeth... Keep winning by playing your game, not watching the scoreboard.
Look at any video of a baseball pitcher, their arm bends about the same as yours, especially sidearm. I agree, newbies shouldn't try to do that, so good advice. Thanks for the video, I like the footwork tips!
Thanks Eagle. I'm a pretty decent forehand thrower, but this breakdown is going to help take it to the next level. So important to have in the arsenal. That arm thing is a little freaky...
dust man I totally agree. I started playing forehand and my friends quickly convinced me to work on my backhand. Now I probably play 20-30% of my game forehand. I’d like to think I’m pretty equally balanced either way.
@@jeffdejaynes7231 I started out throwing mostly forehand. Now I throw the majority backhand but use forehand a lot for upshots and some medium range drives. I bet it helps by 2 strokes a round at least.
This video was recommended by a friend. So glad I watched. Thanks Eagle! I'm an older player and this helps a lot. You are a great teacher and I've seen a huge difference in my throws.
Thank you so much for this video. You breaking down the forehand as you did was very eye opening. I was at Waco last round and you let me take a photo of you and I really appreciated your humor in the pic. Keep doing your thing Eagle!
I'm a semi-new disc golfer who almost exclusively throws forehand (dunno why but no matter how hard I try I cannot get the hang of backhand unless it's for close approach or putting) and I find that the fan grip is great for control approaches and since it allows me to keep the disc more stable since I'm obviously putting a little less power on the shot 🤷♂️
Excellent break down of technique! Super helpful. I had no forearm throw to speak of when I watched your video and after applying your techniques and only a few hours of practice I could actually use my forearm during a game. I really appreciated your explanation of the different grips even if you personally don't use all of them. Also, echoing the sentiment of several of the comments - I love your demo of your left handed throw!
Eagle great job explaining the forehand. Much better than most forehand videos I have seen. Thanks for sharing your knowledge on forehands. I am trying to get better at it.
Hey Eagle, I have to say this has been my GO to 📹 video. You know doesn't matter what course I am on. It all forehand. Don't really do backhand. I even putt a upside down forehand putt. I been trying to get the cloud ☁️ breaker 😩, but people buy them and sell them higher on eBay. Finally got better getting up to the 12 speed. Love the hats and shirts you wear. But soon hope to get those item. And thank you for this video !!!
I like using a fan grip for most slower shots because I feel like it gets you a bit more angle control, but I like the stacked grip for faster shots because I feel like it gets you more power
I've been playing disc golf for a while and am developing a decent backhand but my forehand is abysmal. I'm gonna start working on it this week! Thank you for the video to help!
One good thing has come from the quarantine...pros sitting home trying to explain why they're so damn good. I saw the Simon Lizotte video comparing his forehand to yours, then came looking for this video.
Excellent video! Your Shatner esque de-liv-ery is clearly heard and understood, well done. Love the self critique at the end, very helpful. If this disc golf thing doesn't work out you definitely have a backup career in instructional video and motivational speaking.😁
One of the best like to dislike ratio is of all time period. This video helped me a lot for my forehand drives but I'm having trouble with my control shots like getting my buzz out flat consistently. With drivers this speed I'm throwing it out generally compensates and it gets into the flight pattern but that release angle matters much more with mid range shots. Going to re watch this again with that in mind and see if I can't fix that too
Great job of the break down. I watched, I listened, I spent time going over my forehand which I only used in desperate short up shots. After paying attention to your tips it feels better with my foot work and timing. I'VE DOUBLED my distance and accuracy in just a couple of hours. Thank You for your personal insight. Throw long and accurate always.
Thanks for the help ! I have been trying to learn better sidearm form for years. And most vids I found were hard to follow. You did excellent job explaining it clearly. Now I know what to call my shot. Its sidearm standing upright. I will try the lower stance to get better distance. That is what I have been lacking.
Thanks a lot for this video! I never managed to get a consistent forehand going. Tried to follow your advice and got to a good consistent approach distance without any effort. This really helped me out!
i finally watched this and tried some of the tips and methods you presented. It did add more consistency to my sidearm, no added distance but i felt a better snap and cleaner releases. This is something to build on, thanks!
Well done. I've seen some of your prior how-to sessions and I agree with the comments below that you're really good at that now. While the form might be straight forward, having one of the best in the game break down their form and talk about it is always a treat. You captured some great angles and added some insightful comments. Thanks very much for sharing. May I be so bold as to ask for a backhand breakdown like this video? :) Would also enjoy (once things get back to normal a bit) seeing some more of you doing commentary on a course like the one you did in Europe. Great content these days. Happy to see you doing so well.
Thank you for a great video! I have a friend and playing partner that only throws forehand (so far) and struggles with consistency. I think this will help him a lot. The left/right phenomenon is so crazy. My dominant hand is right hand and I work in a music store and if I ever want to remind myself what it was like to learn to play guitar I pick up a left handed guitar and try to play it. It literally feels like starting over it's bonkers.
Shorter reach back and cocked wrist might be just what I need. I hate watching these videos and having that "aha" moment when it's now midnight (haha). Thanks, Eagle.
I'm pretty sure that crazy arm snap is enough to generate the same power as a normal player's entire throw. Add a whole body working perfectly in conjunction with it and you get a 500+" throw. Still, this video will definitely help a lot of players improve, myself included. Thanks a lot for putting this together!
Between you're and Simon's vlogs I've started to incorporate forehand throws into my game. The problem has been consistency and can't wait to get out to the field and practice using some of the things you've pointed out. Specifically the wrist and "foot shuffle" points.
My son is an alien hybrid with special arm bending powers
Lol I think most arms are capable of this. Just most of us don’t reach this level of flexibility. Just like most of us can’t replicate many Ballet stretches and poses.
Humbled Gaming I think Eagle is just the bees knees
There's a Marvel Character Super Hero Story here....What was going on in the Mountains of Colorado In the Late 90's? How was He born? Were his wings surgically removed so he could live among humans. From what world is Jeff Korns? Did you say Hybrid, because your DNA was in fact utilized in his manufacture? It's a Movie?
He's 67% rubber.
no, hes hypermobile and is at risk for serious rotator cuff injuries if he doesn't improve his posture and rotator cuff strength, Get on that Seth at DGS, help this kids anterior and posterior chain strength to improve his stability.
I’ve coached (tennis) professionally for over 12 years and this is the highest caliber technical breakdown of any disc golf stroke that I have ever seen. This is the future of the game-quality information. Teaching individuals to master the proper biomechanics of any pursuit after putting in countless hours of your own study on and off the practice field is truly a gift. Well done sir
Matt Odenwelder I played tennis in high school and the forehand is very similar in getting into that athletic stance and generating power from the hips
I like what you said about countless hours of putting
I agree with you, Matt. I coached tennis and swimming for a decade - Eagle's demo was right on - balance of slightly funny here and there, but really a great overall demo. And in the end, the most important advice - 'practice, practice, practice.'
thanks for the review. i’ll definitely watch this one.
Eagle, you are really becoming a great teacher--your insights (especially around the mental game, and the practice of disc wisdom) imply a maturity beyond your age and I really resonate with it. There is a deeper knowledge available to the neophyte than just the physical techniques you present here--your poise and also your honesty and authenticity are what actually come through--'the medium is the message' said Neil Postman. Our journey in disc golf is our journey thru life, and so although the followers of this vlog may not be able to throw a side arm 400 ft, we can all embrace the ecstasy of a side arm landing next to the basket (at whatever distance) or the visceral disappointment of a shank. Last year, I cracked my ribs smashing a tree skiing glades here in Western Colorado, and for 2 months could only throw side-arm. As a result my game was reinvented. Sometimes we avoid the things we think we're not good at. But my side-arm didn't improve until I had to throw side-arm. This is a weird time right now, but to the open hearted, it is a great opportunity to go deeper into the disc golf life, to embrace the challenges we face, and to show love to our fellow disc golfers despite adversity.
charter chickpeas know you have been a great teacher for a long time cuz you care so much, and are so high octane passionate about...most everything.
I just went out to a field and used these tips. And I gained at least 50+ feet to my sidearm!
Eagle: Thank you for this video! I'm 60 years old, been playing since Jan 2019, and forehand was my main throw. I just wasn't accurate nor did I have distance. My backhand was (and still is) a work in progress. I watched probably every single forehand video available and then I saw Simon Lizotte's where he compares his form to yours. So that lead me to check out your video. At home, I practiced the steps and throwing motion (although I did not try to get my arm to bend like yours - you must be double-jointed). This past weekend I went to the course (ours in Arizona are still open) and had a round with some of the people I normally play with. It was the first time I played using what I learned from your video and they were amazed at the change and suggested I become forehand-dominate. I let everyone know it was due to your video and that they should check it out. Thanks again and keep the great videos coming. (My backhand got me the nickname "Wild Bill" as no one knows where the throw is going, but it isn't safe to be to my right or behind me).
Finally, this is the level of detail that EVERY other video is lacking. Please Eagle, do this detailed breakdown for the backhand too please!!
Please. I'm just starting off and I can launch a forehand (played baseball my entire childhood) but I cant get ANY distance on a backhand. It literally goes 100 feet and that's a stretch
@@johnathonscheurer1233 snapping a towel, or pulling a lawn mower cord on a picnic table were good analogies that helped me. Also, follow through with hips, so you end up swinging body around after release, where you're standing with left foot in front, facing with body opposite of arm you are throwing at the end. Those all helped me crank backhands
I'm a total beginner in disc golf. I played my first full round yesterday at the Evergreen disc course in Goleta yesterday and was very happy to get 18 OVER par over 18 holes. (I did have several pars and even a birdie, so that's cool! Three pars in a row on holes 15, 16, and 17 made me feel like a champ).
I've been watching you guys play on TH-cam. I just watched your win in Michigan where you asked if you needed to make the putt and tour director said yes, but you didn't realize that if you sank it you would WIN. That was so great.
And your comments after the win showed me that you have a great mindset, expressing gratitude to your supporters, girlfriend, and family. Also how you just focus on playing the course and managing your own mind and your own play, not focusing on what other players are doing.
And now this video. I hope disc golf grows enough that you can make a good living at it, because you are clearly amazing at what you do and deserve everything that comes to you. Thank you for this great lesson, too. So well explained! And I hope your elbow tendons and shoulder joint stay healthy forever....so you don't have to switch to lefty! ;-)
I'm actually somewhat ambidextrous so I'm working on a few lefty chip shots so they are available options when I'm stuck behind a bush or tree....
This is probably the most in depth explanation of a forehand throw that I have ever seen. I feel that this was much needed because there is so much information and breakdown of the backhand, but comparatively little about the forehand. There's definitely nothing this thorough. Thank you for this, sir.
I love the example with the left hand throw. Ive been using it every time I teach friends and beginners to play, as it keeps them from getting discouraged when they look at your example throws and cant produce anything close to it.
The "hammer" tip is gold
An "Aha Moment" for me.
@Kent Chapman
Eagle taught an old dog a new trick.
Usually right before I tee off I yell "COMMENCING THE MOVEMENT!". The homies all love it.
This kid is incredible. From the moment he came on the tour he’s displayed it all. Insane forehand distance, insane backhand distance, deadly putting skills. Phenom.
Z Z, give him a little more time to grow and gain experience. Eagle is without a doubt one of the best players on tour. He is still young and putting it all together... but if you can’t recognize he has all the tools, then I don’t know what to tell u bud.
@Z Z what nonsense. In tennis you might have someone with a not great serve who still wins because their other shots and movement get them over the line. Their opponent who aces them often has a better serve. It's nuanced thinking, don't go mad on it straight away as you'll end up more confused, but try it in little bits to get yourself started.
My favorite player ever. When you come back, the world gonna be put on notice!
Great video! I'm 65 years old and just getting into it, with the help of my sons who have been doing it for a few years. I don't get much power out of backhand therefore prefer forehand. I am working on accuracy now. I am heading out tomorrow to a soccer field to practice what I saw you teaching in this vid. Btw, if my elbow bends like yours does, it's because I just snapped it 😂😂
Okay, I had to come back to share my experience incorporating some of Eagle's advice in this video. 2024 will mark 20 years of disc golf for me; for whatever reason I never really committed myself to learning forehand shots until the last couple of years. I was getting better but still unable to throw well over 250 feet or so. Today I practiced the shuffle, "baseball"-like throw and "hammer the nail" concept that Eagle presents, and I threw straight and over 300 feet about four times during a round. The best was about 320. THANK YOU, EAGLE! I feel like my game just went up a big notch and can't wait to keep working on the forehand. I found that a somewhat short and under control shuffle was best, keep it as movement free as possible until I can start working on more power and so on. Watch this video and improve your game, y'all!
“The hip is the chest of the forehand” the wonderful AHA moment
Is that like, “the eyes are the groin of the head” (Dwight Schrute)?
"Your hips are like your chest for a forehand" Hands down the best piece of advice I've heard as an ultimate player who can crush a backhand, but struggles mightily with the flick. Thank you!
Veryveryveryveryveryvery useful forehand tips my man! Can you pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease do similar video for backhand? It would be so appreciated and awesome!
Lucio Boop Check our simons Form critiques, Simon taught eagle his backhand if I’m not mistaken
I practiced after watching this and gained about 20% more distance forehand. More importantly, they’ve been coming out more consistent and I’ve felt less stress on my body. ‘Fan grip’ was a godsend for getting my midranges working! Thanks Eagle!
Tons of likes, and 0 dislikes. Just as it should be. I need this clinic so much.
I’ve been a recreational player since 2011 and I’ve never felt remotely confident in my sidearm nor felt like anyone properly explained to me how to do it (at least not in a way I understood) and now I’m feeling excited and motivated to apply these tips. Thank you Eagle!
Thanks Eagle! Can't wait to get out and try some of this out to improve my forehand. Thanks for taking the time to put so many angles and clips together to really show all the techniques operating in real time. Can't wait to see you back out on the course! Will you be bagging the PD3 when the season starts back up? If so, what are the shots you would use it for?
The last part of this video is the realest thing I’ve seen someone put out for advice at improving. Such a creative way to display how important pure practice is. Awesome video, the biggest thing I took away was really pushing off the back foot and planting on that front foot to transfer into the disc (south paw but I’m used to it)
This is by far the most informative instructional video I've seen for forehand up-to-date! I've watched a lot too! Great vid!
Coming from a baseball, golf, throwing sports background the forehand/sidearm/flick came naturally to me. The weight transfer and hip movement is almost identical.
I primarily throw RHFH and have excellent results. I'm throwing Terns, X-Cals, Apes, and my GO TO Colossus's for max distance. Max for me at the moment in no wind flat field is 450'. My fairways are Firebirds, Starfire, CD2, Thunderbirds, Sidewinders/Mambas/Daedalus(for left finishing fade), Valkyries, and Teebirds. These fairway molds are my bread and butter for any course, especially in the woods. North Carolina woods courses to be exact. I use an XT Colt for my midrange, one OS and one not so stable. Working in a flat Star AviarX3, and Champion Caiman for additional OS mids. (The Caiman is a great finesse midrange). I say all of this hoping to help others interested in forehands; so if you're confused about mold selection(I sure was), this might help. Yes, you might not throw Innova, but these molds can be a good reference for you.
Note: When I started playing, 250'-300' feet drives were my MAX, but I practice daily and use resistance bands for my workouts. The practice has paid off! I'm currently working on building up my PDGA tournament "resume" and ratings.. in hopes to make it to NT/DGPT touring level soon! Peace, and stay safe! Thanks for your vids, Eagle!!
Perfect dude! I think your range of motion and flexibility is the reason you can crush forehands. Plus you’re goooooood! Now backhand brah! 💗
A tip for educational content: When analyzing footage like this, start with playing the whole clip so the viewers know what to expect. Then go through the clip piece by piece just as you did and then finish with playing the whole clip again. This way we the viewers know where your body is going to be during the analyze phase and, most importantly, where it's going to be.
Keep up the good work! You're doing great :D
As someone who is always telling people to learn the forehand, I can say that this is the video that everyone must watch. Truly exceptional breakdown of one of the most underutilized throws in disc golf. Also thank you for the super dope Eagle McMahon AX4! I could not believe a disc golf bag could look so good! Ordered it as soon as the link dropped and have a load of new discs on the way I can't wait to try. Best of luck to you!
One of the best tutorials ever made;
you’re a natural gifted teacher.
Oh and video production is on point 👌
one of the best instructionals ive seen. Im new to this amazingly addictive sport so these pointers certainly help as i find the right discs for my throwing style and as I try different types of throws. Thanks
Thanks eagle, you made the whole throw crystal clear. I learned more from this 1 video than every other sidearm video I've ever watched combined. You are an outstanding instructor as well as a player.
I think the key to that weird looking body position you see from the side near the end of the vid, is really about what's going on at 16:49 (seen from behind).
The throw starts with the disc well outside the driving line (more than a disc width and a half outside), and as your hips rotate your upper body forward, you pull your elbow in toward your hips, the disc whips inward before it goes forward, and that's what causes the lower arm and wrist to bend so far back, and build up energy like a spring, which is then released as you continue rotating forward.
I started becoming aware of this while I worked on my backhand form with tutorials saying "don't extend your arm behind your body, but *out* from your upper body which is rotated back, then use hips to rotate upper body forward keeping a 90 degree ange between upper arm and body, letting your elbow bend and whip the disc back into the power pocket". Again, the disc often starts outside the driving line, so as you rotate forward the disc is sucked inward, and then whips forward. Once I could feel that happening more often (still a work in progress), I started thinking about how to get the forehand to do the same, start outside, and whip inward and then forward, rather than starting with it simply extended straight back and trying to "pull" it forward.
This is exactly how I imagined Eagle would do a forehand breakdown video. You can tell from the way the plays, that he's spent countless hours perfecting his form. And you know he's broken down every minute aspect of every shot.
It's one of, if not the cleanest forms out there. I would compare his form to Federer's in tennis.
I love how honest and straight up you are about your form & technique. Some people may be tempted to leave that throw out but I learned from it as I'm sure others did. Great fore hand vid ! Thx a million mate, Good luck out there & lets get back to disc golf !!!!!
The Hammer analogy really drove things home for me. Thanks for helping me tac that down Screaming E. Chef B
2:09. That weird moment when someone is waiting for the wind to stop on the tee pad
Hi Eagle, enjoyed the video. I would be really interested in a follow up video on forehand release angles. Throwing NOSE DOWN hyzers and anhyzers in particular.
Dude, this is fire! Exactly what I needed. I’ve really been struggling to learn how to get better at this type of shot, so thank you for putting in the time to teach us. Can’t wait to get out this weekend and put the reps in.
This is by far the best sidearm instruction/breakdown that I've ever watched. Thanks Eagle!!
This is the best forehand instructional that’s currently out from the top pros. Thanks Eagle!
Well taught, good sir. I’ve gone to the field several times armed with your teaching, and am greatly encouraged (as a beginner) by the progress I have seen. Best advice is the focus on practice. When sound strategy/technique is combined with consistent hard work, great things happen!
so crazy you actually posted this, I've been waiting for this video for like 2 years, thank you, I truly feel I'm about to finally stop throwing 375 side arms!
Thank you for explaining what you do with your ring/pinky in the grip. It's difficult to tell if others rest the disc on the ring finger or hold it away from the disc. I'm going to try what you did. Thanks for breaking everything down, you the man. Smash.
“I dunno... people think I have a pretty good forehand.” Yeah okay Eagle... pretending it’s not the best in the world lol.
Orangepie86 Simon said it’s the best side arm in disc golf and Big Sexy Commentary always use the phrase “what a weapon!”
Maybe most distance but not most accurate or technical. That title belongs to Ricky or Nate but Eagle is up there!
@@jeremiaskalliokoski2702 He doesn't have the most distance either. Silver Lätt most certainly throw farther forehand. The reason Eagle's forehand may be considered the best in the world is that he has top notch accuracy (even though maybe not quite as accurate as players like Sexton, Koling, Wysocki, etc) while simultaneously having more distance than almost every other touring pro. It's the combo that makes it just about uncontested.
Im guessing you didn't notice the sarcasm in the post if that's your responses. Read and understand guys then comment
@@XaeoLS what about the dude from Minnesota Ryan Sheldon, man that dude can rip a forehand. He was over 80-82 at the Preserve Championships
Thank's for this clinic Eagle. I watched this back in late summer of 2020. Went on a field and swoosh my sidearm went from none to my most confident shot. Literally in a really short period of time.
This is excellent and almost much more in-depth than prior backhand ones I've seen you give. With your pedagogical improvements, I would HIGHLY encourage you to come back and do a backhand one, please and thanks!
This is the best clinic I've seen on a sidearm. Thank you!!!
One of the better disc golf instructional videos I’ve seen. Im new to this and you hit every aspect I had questions about
Forehand flicks for over 20 years and now my game is gonna get insane thanks sharing Eagle
Great video, thank you! Would love to see the same breakdown on your backhand as well.
Perfect video for me to work on in the Fall. This Spring and Summer have all been about putting and approach. This Fall I plan to give more focus to driving and fairway shots. Thanks so much for this content which will help a lot of disc golfers who keep setting goals and dreams of being able to throw forehand or throw with more consistency to reach their ratings goals.
BIG THX EAGLE. Im a noob (played for about 8 months) i have a pretty ok forehand, but your tips gained me over 80 feet. Greetings all the way from Norway;)
Thanks for this, very helpful! Eric Oakley says much the same in his Physics of Flight forehand VLog, but great to hear it again in your words. I need to work on the wrist snap..
Very true! Eric's vid is great as well.I learned off of his video, but Eagle's just goes into great detail and break down.I can't wait to try it! I definitely picked up some other things from it that i'm excited to try.
I throw forehand 380-400ft but can only use about 70% power accurately. Backhand not so well. With that said, this video has actually corrected a couple of things I didn't know I was doing like dragging my toe. I can throw with more power accurately because of that & making sure to really transfer power into my front foot. Thanks Eagle! Wish I woulda seen this 1year ago when you posted it. 😆
Thank you for taking the time to explain this! That was awesome 👍
they really need to be paying you to do clinics , this is the best disc golf tutorial I've ever seen.
Thx Eagle. I'm an old dog trying to learn the "new trick" of throwing a forehand. Your tips are helpful. Fred and I designed Idlewild to suit a player like you who can throw both forehand and backhand well. Good luck with your next contract. I think you should get an offer similar to Paul McBeth... Keep winning by playing your game, not watching the scoreboard.
Would love to see a backhand tutorial with this kind of detail. Keep up the great work.
Eagle tryna steal yo bish @ 2:56
Lol
Look at any video of a baseball pitcher, their arm bends about the same as yours, especially sidearm. I agree, newbies shouldn't try to do that, so good advice. Thanks for the video, I like the footwork tips!
Thanks Eagle. I'm a pretty decent forehand thrower, but this breakdown is going to help take it to the next level. So important to have in the arsenal. That arm thing is a little freaky...
dust man I totally agree. I started playing forehand and my friends quickly convinced me to work on my backhand. Now I probably play 20-30% of my game forehand. I’d like to think I’m pretty equally balanced either way.
@@jeffdejaynes7231 I started out throwing mostly forehand. Now I throw the majority backhand but use forehand a lot for upshots and some medium range drives. I bet it helps by 2 strokes a round at least.
This video was recommended by a friend. So glad I watched. Thanks Eagle! I'm an older player and this helps a lot. You are a great teacher and I've seen a huge difference in my throws.
Thank you so much for this video. You breaking down the forehand as you did was very eye opening. I was at Waco last round and you let me take a photo of you and I really appreciated your humor in the pic. Keep doing your thing Eagle!
He's a funny guy
I'm a semi-new disc golfer who almost exclusively throws forehand (dunno why but no matter how hard I try I cannot get the hang of backhand unless it's for close approach or putting) and I find that the fan grip is great for control approaches and since it allows me to keep the disc more stable since I'm obviously putting a little less power on the shot 🤷♂️
Excellent break down of technique! Super helpful. I had no forearm throw to speak of when I watched your video and after applying your techniques and only a few hours of practice I could actually use my forearm during a game. I really appreciated your explanation of the different grips even if you personally don't use all of them. Also, echoing the sentiment of several of the comments - I love your demo of your left handed throw!
Eagle!! A side-arm clinic just for me? wow!
Eagle great job explaining the forehand. Much better than most forehand videos I have seen. Thanks for sharing your knowledge on forehands. I am trying to get better at it.
Hey Eagle, I have to say this has been my GO to 📹 video. You know doesn't matter what course I am on. It all forehand. Don't really do backhand. I even putt a upside down forehand putt. I been trying to get the cloud ☁️ breaker 😩, but people buy them and sell them higher on eBay. Finally got better getting up to the 12 speed. Love the hats and shirts you wear. But soon hope to get those item. And thank you for this video !!!
I like using a fan grip for most slower shots because I feel like it gets you a bit more angle control, but I like the stacked grip for faster shots because I feel like it gets you more power
I've been playing disc golf for a while and am developing a decent backhand but my forehand is abysmal. I'm gonna start working on it this week! Thank you for the video to help!
One good thing has come from the quarantine...pros sitting home trying to explain why they're so damn good. I saw the Simon Lizotte video comparing his forehand to yours, then came looking for this video.
This is the video that made me a forehand player and I never looked back
Excellent video! Your Shatner esque de-liv-ery is clearly heard and understood, well done. Love the self critique at the end, very helpful. If this disc golf thing doesn't work out you definitely have a backup career in instructional video and motivational speaking.😁
One of the best like to dislike ratio is of all time period. This video helped me a lot for my forehand drives but I'm having trouble with my control shots like getting my buzz out flat consistently. With drivers this speed I'm throwing it out generally compensates and it gets into the flight pattern but that release angle matters much more with mid range shots. Going to re watch this again with that in mind and see if I can't fix that too
Awesome tutorial! You resemble a MLB pitcher at 20:00 almost identical form and explains the torque you’re able to generate.
That's profound disc golf wisdom mixed with the physics of the body...
Shared this many times!
Thanks for sharing Eagle! I've been starting to trick flicks with my MD3 lately. Learning a lot and having fun!
Best backhand tutorial out there. Thanks!
Yeah, my arm can’t do that. Eagle = Gumby.
Great resource! Would love to have the "breaking it down" comments at the end used in another video as a set of drills for us mere mortals.
Eagle, this is awesome! Please make a video like this for Backhand. There are a lot of backhand videos, but none that are as complete as this.
Great job of the break down. I watched, I listened, I spent time going over my forehand which I only used in desperate short up shots. After paying attention to your tips it feels better with my foot work and timing. I'VE DOUBLED my distance and accuracy in just a couple of hours. Thank You for your personal insight. Throw long and accurate always.
Thanks for the help ! I have been trying to learn better sidearm form for years. And most vids I found were hard to follow. You did excellent job explaining it clearly. Now I know what to call my shot. Its sidearm standing upright. I will try the lower stance to get better distance. That is what I have been lacking.
Definitely helpful. I’m not as flexible and I’m just learning. Tips on basic techniques are a must. Thank you thank you thank you!
Eagle, you are a champion and a stellar teacher. Keep crushin it
Great instruction! one of the best tutorials on sidearm I've seen!
Thank you for the pointers Eagle...really cool of you to take the time to share
I throw much better forehand now when I started incorporating these things into my forehand. Thank you so much!
Thanks a lot for this video! I never managed to get a consistent forehand going. Tried to follow your advice and got to a good consistent approach distance without any effort.
This really helped me out!
i finally watched this and tried some of the tips and methods you presented. It did add more consistency to my sidearm, no added distance but i felt a better snap and cleaner releases. This is something to build on, thanks!
Well done. I've seen some of your prior how-to sessions and I agree with the comments below that you're really good at that now. While the form might be straight forward, having one of the best in the game break down their form and talk about it is always a treat. You captured some great angles and added some insightful comments. Thanks very much for sharing. May I be so bold as to ask for a backhand breakdown like this video? :) Would also enjoy (once things get back to normal a bit) seeing some more of you doing commentary on a course like the one you did in Europe. Great content these days. Happy to see you doing so well.
Thank you for this fabulous exploration into the forehand
Congrats on your recent 1st Place Victory! Loved how you didn't realize you won because you were so focused. Great video!
Thank you for a great video! I have a friend and playing partner that only throws forehand (so far) and struggles with consistency. I think this will help him a lot. The left/right phenomenon is so crazy. My dominant hand is right hand and I work in a music store and if I ever want to remind myself what it was like to learn to play guitar I pick up a left handed guitar and try to play it. It literally feels like starting over it's bonkers.
Wow! I am new here but you helped this old guy learn how to improve his game, thank you.
Shorter reach back and cocked wrist might be just what I need. I hate watching these videos and having that "aha" moment when it's now midnight (haha). Thanks, Eagle.
I'm pretty sure that crazy arm snap is enough to generate the same power as a normal player's entire throw. Add a whole body working perfectly in conjunction with it and you get a 500+" throw. Still, this video will definitely help a lot of players improve, myself included. Thanks a lot for putting this together!
Loved your sidearm video,seeing the actual breakdown as you were throwing was excellent!
Between you're and Simon's vlogs I've started to incorporate forehand throws into my game. The problem has been consistency and can't wait to get out to the field and practice using some of the things you've pointed out. Specifically the wrist and "foot shuffle" points.
Great video! I've never been good at sidearm throwing, but I think this video covered all the basics. Can't wait to get out there and practice.