Thank you for another installment of your series of videos on Native American Sites in the Chicago Region. I am glad to see that you are following up on the findings of August Mier.
Very interesting!! Well done! I live on the Fox just north of StC. There are Indian Mounds right across Rt. 31 from me. They were partially dug up decades ago and I heard the work was stopped because of Native American objections I have wandered over there many many times. (never digging or disturbing What I do contemplate is why they chose that spot to put them? We too have many springs along the river here. I have a large one right at the base of these mounds. So my theory is, 1. They wanted a nearby spot of constant pure water. 2. It is right along their trail on the river so they could pay daily homage. 3. It was, and is, a beautiful spot to rest in peace. Everything they love right at hand. The beautiful Fox.
Thanks for watching our videos - and for the thoughtful comment and observation! We did an entire series on the St Charles Mounds on the west side of the Fox River, about 1 mile north of the St Charles city center. You might find the series of interest, as we go into significant detail regarding the history of those mounds. Your ideas and hypotheses are all quite reasonable. The presence of freshwater springs would certainly have been a draw. The prominent position along the ridge would have been clearly visible to anyone traveling along the ancient trails that went along the river, as well as from the river itself. Thanks again for watching and support of our channel!
Thanks for watching and commenting! Yes, part of our goal is to bring more attention to these locations - to make them more tangible to people. Very glad that you enjoyed the video - and thanks for the kind words!
You may have over looked one feature of the natural to this area, In the 1960's I was drawn to a natural spring just 200 feet north , with cool clear water ,in summer these springs are spread all along the Fox river, and early settlers were drawn to them. Several river towns have streets named spring. The Indians would prefer spring water over river water.
Thanks for watching and commenting! That's a very interesting observation. That could indeed have been a draw for Native Americans (and early US settlers as well). We will have to look for that on our next visit to that site. Thanks again!
There are rumored to be many underground caves within the that particular area in Red Oak, as well as the area across the street where the new build area (former golf course) is.
@@BeHistoric Best to check when the river is low; it was probably formed by the swirling river over a millenia. Definately not a subterranean feature. About the size of three sofa's if I recall correctly. Unaware of any other types of caves in the area but it's the nature of these things to remain hidden. ;-) It was well south of the entrance to the old Country Club, perhaps across from present day Sharon Lane. Thanks for your work!!
Excellent story great history you should do a write-up on the Huber site 11 ck1 Southwest Cook County I had the opportunity to assist the archaeologist in 2020 and in 2021 also it was a early Oneonta sight that had contact material with Europeans
We have indeed heard about the Huber site and hope to explore that story and that location in the coming months/years. Very interesting that you assisted with those recent excavations. Thanks very much for the suggestion! And thanks for watching, the kind words, and for commenting!
I'm just glad your boys didn't dig up the area which is now Fox Valley Country Club, where I spent many days hacking away trying to break eighty...and the nearby cemetery where my dad and brother are buried.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Glad that you enjoyed the video. From our recollection, the only digging that took place at this site was light industry in the form of sand mining, around the turn of the 19th to 20th centuries. Archeologists have dug a few minor test pits in the area to the west of Route 31 - but that's the extent of it. August Mier did only surface collecting.
Thank you for another installment of your series of videos on Native American Sites in the Chicago Region. I am glad to see that you are following up on the findings of August Mier.
Thanks very much for the comment and the support! Yes, very much to know regarding Mr Mier and his work.
Fantastic content and visual story telling
Very glad that you enjoyed the video - and thanks for the kind words! Thanks too for taking the time to comment!
Very interesting!! Well done!
I live on the Fox just north of StC.
There are Indian Mounds right across Rt. 31 from me.
They were partially dug up decades ago and I heard the work was stopped because of Native American objections
I have wandered over there many many times. (never digging or disturbing
What I do contemplate is why they chose that spot to put them?
We too have many springs along the river here. I have a large one right at the base of these mounds.
So my theory is,
1. They wanted a nearby spot of constant pure water.
2. It is right along their trail on the river so they could pay daily homage.
3. It was, and is, a beautiful spot to rest in peace. Everything they love right at hand. The beautiful Fox.
Thanks for watching our videos - and for the thoughtful comment and observation! We did an entire series on the St Charles Mounds on the west side of the Fox River, about 1 mile north of the St Charles city center. You might find the series of interest, as we go into significant detail regarding the history of those mounds. Your ideas and hypotheses are all quite reasonable. The presence of freshwater springs would certainly have been a draw. The prominent position along the ridge would have been clearly visible to anyone traveling along the ancient trails that went along the river, as well as from the river itself. Thanks again for watching and support of our channel!
Great topic and vid. Thankyou so much. Be nice if this would be required in the Illinois school system.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Yes, part of our goal is to bring more attention to these locations - to make them more tangible to people. Very glad that you enjoyed the video - and thanks for the kind words!
You may have over looked one feature of the natural to this area, In the 1960's I was drawn to a natural spring just 200 feet north , with cool clear water ,in summer these springs are spread all along the Fox river, and early settlers were drawn to them. Several river towns have streets named spring. The Indians would prefer spring water over river water.
Thanks for watching and commenting! That's a very interesting observation. That could indeed have been a draw for Native Americans (and early US settlers as well). We will have to look for that on our next visit to that site. Thanks again!
There are rumored to be many underground caves within the that particular area in Red Oak, as well as the area across the street where the new build area (former golf course) is.
One small one on the east bank of the Fox River there was called "Devil's Cave" in my youth... not big at all but you could crawl around in it a bit.
That's very interesting. We did not know that. Thanks for commenting and sharing that information!
We'll have to explore that area more carefully along the shoreline. Thanks for that add'l info!
@@BeHistoric Best to check when the river is low; it was probably formed by the swirling river over a millenia. Definately not a subterranean feature. About the size of three sofa's if I recall correctly. Unaware of any other types of caves in the area but it's the nature of these things to remain hidden. ;-) It was well south of the entrance to the old Country Club, perhaps across from present day Sharon Lane. Thanks for your work!!
Excellent story great history you should do a write-up on the Huber site 11 ck1 Southwest Cook County I had the opportunity to assist the archaeologist in 2020 and in 2021 also it was a early Oneonta sight that had contact material with Europeans
We have indeed heard about the Huber site and hope to explore that story and that location in the coming months/years. Very interesting that you assisted with those recent excavations. Thanks very much for the suggestion! And thanks for watching, the kind words, and for commenting!
Good stuff.
Thank you for kind words and for watching our video!
I'm just glad your boys didn't dig up the area which is now Fox Valley Country Club, where I spent many days hacking away trying to break eighty...and the nearby cemetery where my dad and brother are buried.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Glad that you enjoyed the video. From our recollection, the only digging that took place at this site was light industry in the form of sand mining, around the turn of the 19th to 20th centuries. Archeologists have dug a few minor test pits in the area to the west of Route 31 - but that's the extent of it. August Mier did only surface collecting.
Sadly BobbyLee, FVCC is now passed into history as well, and is a new subdivision.
Another weird historical thing: there is a road that runs north-south to the east of the site. Oddly enough, they changed the spelling to "Banbury".
Yes, that is interesting! Thanks for watching, for commenting, and sharing that factoid!