Taking the harbor freight vulcan for a rip. Second try at the double mitre. I appreciate your help making cool shit in the shop. Get early access to new vjos here / ave
I lost count of the hundreds of hours running a TIG, doing things like aircraft tubing, (had a FAA weld cert) stainless steel boat jewelry... you know rails, radar arches, garb handles and the like. Yeah it takes hours and hours to get really good at it. Each welding discipline has it's own place and use. MIG also takes time to master... many call it a metal squirt gun. Yeah it is but if you don't know how to set things up your welds don't hold up. I can say I have run tons of mig wire through a feeder... I would swap out a 550 pound drum just about every week for five and a half years. Never mind all the places I worked that were set up to use 35 to 44 pound spools. Stick used all over and has it's place both in repair and production. I get the fun of fixing heavy equipment that someone else broke... So 6010 and 7018 welding rod is always on hand. I use all three types of welding just about weekly where I work. The more you know, and flexible doing different tasks on a job site the more people want to keep you around and working. When it comes to welding I'm still learning new tricks after doing it for 45 years. No matter where you work don't be afraid of getting your hands dirty doing someone else's job if for no other reason than to learn something new.
I'm getting old and don't have a lifetime to learn, but will be working with aluminum, and hopefully titanium on some catapult arms. I wanna break the sound barrier.
Well with aluminum you loose all heat treating when you weld on it, that's why in aircraft aluminum is riveted... Breaking the speed of sound, sounds like a interesting task with a catapult... The loads and stress on the arm are going to be very high. Planing on using something like a D8 Cat for the counter weight?
I reckon the secret to getting those kinds of speeds is in the trebuchet style of catapult. At that point, you're basically making a ginormous bull whip. You don't need to get the whole damn thing up to mach, just the tip, just for a second.
I used to tig weld for a company called semitool, machines hat make computer chips..... I miss tig ..... my happy place has always been in a molten puddle.....
I started out as an underwater welder on oil pipelines. I spent a long time using only stick. I recently started Using MiG and Tig . It’s a hell of a learning curve, even with 3 decades of welding experience
Funny occurrence happened to me this summer. I went to a local Humaine society grub truck fundraiser in Salem Oregon like we do every year. Except this year I happened to be donning my Focus you Fawk shirt. While I was ordering some delicious tacos, my better half pointed out a fellow wearing the Cockford Oille shirt in a near by line. I immediately shouted in his general direction, " Hey uncle Bumble" ( there were several little humans around) and pointed to my shirt. He then responded with a thumbs up. I wanted to procure photographic evidence, but the wait for tacos was to lengthy. Sadly, I never saw the genius again that evening.
That welding cabinet has 3-4 inches of space behind the drawers. I installed 3 220volt outlets and 3 110volt outlets on mine using that space so now I can plug in both welders and plasma cutter without constantly swapping. Of course you don't run all three at once or it would throw the breaker but it's nice having your extension cord wired to the cabinet and always plugged in.
when you are soo good at welding you dont have a foot pedal but an elbow pedal for the tig and you migweld with your right foot while your leftfoot is using the plasma. One day that wil happen, and you better prepare for it now.
(speaking of teaching) I used to start absolute beginners on Oxy-Acetylene and then try to move to TIG... this is traditional and makes sense to me. This term I'm starting people on TIG, for kind of trivial reasons. I have come up with a few little exercises that absolute beginners (like visitors to an open-house) can do without getting in trouble. The secret is having everything set, and letting them rest the cup on the work, as if you were about to start walking the cup but didn't. It's possible to build up from that systematically in one session. I think people tend to panic when they see the control panel of the welder, and am thinking about taping off all the stuff we're not using at the time. Ah, this is a work in progress. It's easy to bury people in information at the outset, I keep doing this. So, trying to simplify, and get them to QUICKLY see the arc, make a puddle, see the shielding effect, see the penetration, melt a little hole in the work... right at the outset! The thinking is that if this grabs their interest, THEN it might be time to introduce some important details....
@@jonathangarzon2798 You'll probably never see this comment, thanks to youtubes BS comment system now, but whatever the case, with MIG, from what little I've picked up, Flux core wire & the wire with shielding gas behave just a bit different. Flux core seems to penetrate & work its way into the work, a bit more aggressively than, wire with shielding gas... for whatever reason? But then again, prep of the work is 8/10ths the battle
what impresses me most is that you have a goddamn HUGE pun/metaphor/innuendo dictionary and at the SAME TIME, great attention to detail on what you do. As an aside, you would be VERY good at stand-up comedy.
Dude!! "200 hrs of practice ain't gonna do it" you say.. I've tried stickwelding - got it figured out after 10-12 sticks. Tried MIG welding, figured that out after 15-20 hrs.. tried TIG welding, figured that out after a couple of minutes, TIG is, for me, the easiest way to weld. Taking in mind im an old airbrusher and have the coordination in my hands and i think it all comes down to that - coordination. Learning when the puddle needs filler, and learning the right hand to actually give filler and vice versa. Love your videos btw!
I'm trying to learn stick welding. The most amazing thing is how much difference the angle of the rod makes. I still stuck at it, but each time i do it i suck a bit less :)
I can't agree more with you final summation regarding which weld process to choose as a home-gamer. I use TIG, MIG, and stick for stainless, aluminum, and mild steel. And I ain't a ashamed to reach for the MIG more than half the time. But for anything purty and the shear satisfaction that comes from the challenge of laying down a nice weld, you just can't beat the TIG. Stick is always a blast and very gratifying on the thick dirty shit in wind, rain, or snow. It's all great!
Mate, I've tried quite a few different fabrication channels for finding out the correct information for various projects, and while I don't need to learn between the welding types, I enjoyed this video from beginning to end. You have a great patter, hugely inventive swearing and more importantly than that: you're a great welder! You've got a new subscriber buddy, and please don't ever dumb it down when it comes to teaching; I like to know the details of everything I'm up to, and you have a great vibe. Much thanks!
as a welder, your humor is perfect.... good shit....as a tutorial for someone wanting to learn the humor can shadow out what you are trying to teach.....dingle berries everywhere...love it
Mig Tig or stick? all of the above :D. Some jobs work out wonderfully with the Tig, some you can squirt together with the Mig and even when you have $10,000 worth of European inverter Mig plant in front of you, some jobs work out better with a stick welder you paid $10 for at the junk yard!.
After I bought me a MMA/MIG inverter I discovered the same thing - that stick welding is quite enjoyable and I tend to prefer it. Even did some thick aluminium welds when my TIG had trouble overcoming the impurities in casting material.
Just bought the same TIG welder today. The fact that you use one coupled with the One year total satisfaction money back Guarantee. Helped me pull the trigger. Chris
My grandma told if you’re not making mistakes you’re not learning anything. She was so right. She’s been gone a long time and I miss her and her wisdom.thank you for your wisdom and putting in a way so many can understand.
I've been TIG welding for about five years and I can finally say that I just barely suck! I love doing it and have been using other processes for maybe 20 years that I got pretty good at but I just HAD to be able to weld Aluminium. It's been a hard uphill struggle but worth every curse word!! Put your tungsten in the Milcrappy drill and have a go at spinamathinging it on the grinder.
I'm 54 and used a Mig off and on since age 8 (helping my dad make trailers, dune buggies and roll around metal benches). Well at age 30 I needed a welder at work and decided to get a small Miller TIG unit and I fell in love, within a week I was making museum quality welds. I felt like it was easier to master than the MIG. Slower, absolutely but I was not doing anything production like. Stick... Never could get a descent weld but I was using 40 year old rods...
One thing I learned by watching this video. You welders have one hell of sense of humor!! AvE can always take up stand-up when he is tired of welding/videos. Funny shit right here folks! The comments are equally as good. You guys Rock!!! Cheers from Motown!
I came for some welding tips and found one of the best youtube comedians I've ever seen. Laughing too hard to focus on the actual video. Pure comic genius.
My dad bought me a gas torch when I was in high school. I still have it. This video is wonderful in that I finally got a pro’s perspective on electric welding , and the three electric welding processes typically marketed to a hobby welder.
When I was in school learning SMAW, the instructor would let me use the TIG welder after finishing for the day. Whole different ball game. I had learned oxy acetylene welding with a filler rod previously, but throwing the foot pedal in with the TIG machine takes some getting used to.
I spent a year (4 hours a day, 5 days a week) at a welding school for TIG. I'm competent, but not a master. So many things go into a weld job, of any process. Prep work, stick selection, machine settings, material, position. It's a fucking art form!
grinding and sharpening electrodes isn't bad. it's just frustrating every time you dip the tip or get filler on it, you have to stop and change electrodes. keep a pile of them sharpened so you don't have to go back and forth to the grinder until you have dirtied a dozen. it takes a lot of practice to keep em clean through lots of welds!
Just do like some of my old classmates did- sharpen both ends of your tungstens, booger up one end, switch it end for end, booger it up again, and wonder how in the hell you're going to get it out of there...
Yep I agree with everything you said. I bought a TIG unit because of its versatility and the lack of sparks ( my shed is small and lots of stuff in it ), it does beautiful welds when I get it right but its bloody hard to get right as I use it only occasionally. Equally the Gas is expensive so what I tend to do is tack weld my designs and then take them to somebody who knows what they are doing. I definitely don't regret buying the TIG but I also know my limits
great information, I,ve been considering tig (have done stick in the past) Leaning about all of the additional stuff makes me not want to rush into without more thought Thanks again.
i like TIG as a hobbyist. why should i choose a simple if i can do it complicated :) jokes o a side. it is more challenging, but at the same time more rewarding.
I learned to stick weld for 4-H (never as a paid gig mind) on an old Forney C5 type, 250 amp max IIRC, probably from the 60s or 70s...in the mid-late 90s. Something primal about melting steel together. I never did anything big or fancy, but I made a few things for the farm I grew up on. Stick welder seems to works well for farm equipment and heavier stuff. Doubles as a poor-man's plasma cutter on thin stuff whether you wanted it to or not :D Red and about the size of a big mini-fridge. Big, satisfying CLUNKER of a on/off switch on the right side, just slide your right hand back between the unit and the workbench support leg (6x6 timber). Dangit, now I'm homesick. Oughta call my cousin up and see if my kids would like to visit where I grew up.
Maybe it was the skill of the operators where I was, but I always assumed that MIG stood for "Maybe It's Glued?" (I may have a wee bias though since I was the grinder who had to make their shit look like it was in contract spec)
I started with MIG, actually fluxcore, to learn welding. It is definitely not too hard to learn, but you still need to put in quite a few hours to get to the point of mastering it. I wish I had started with TIG or stick though, my next welder I'm thinking of getting a TIG.
Never liked using a foot pedal, but I never really had a position where I needed that much control. I guess it would be super useful on a turntable...but I always adjusted my Voltage, Movement Speed, and the amount of Rod I melt. Have had 6G Certifcation, and my favorite to burn was 6" Sched 40 purged piping. Great explanation though, and tbh it took me 6 - 9 months before I could even weld TIG...but once I got the hang of it, I love it. For home use, I would have NO problem using the "Farmers Rod" stick welding something up. I like all welding processes, and each of them have their own application/uses. The absolute neatest thing I've ever seen was a process called "Friction Welding."
I learned Arc and then oxy. Much preferred Arc to everything I've done so far. Just something satisfying about it. Granted, I learned on massive old Lincoln machines from the 70's and 80's.
I learned on my granddad's old Lincoln tombstone back in the 70's as well. Gotta love the good old days when safety wasn't a factor and the kid's weren't all entitled pussies.
"You don't need to go out and buy bottle of co2 gas, just nick a few co2 fire extinguishers and shove an adapter on it!" Confessions of a wielder (not me as I cant wield)
I cant stop watching your videos i must have watched every video you have posted at least twice i love your videos and how your honest about everything you review your making me smarter everyday keep up the good content
As a welder I'd make a great ditch-digger. Have mostly managed to avoid it altogether, leaning on my shovel while other people do the work. But fact is, I have never quite understood why people said, "TIG? Don't even think about it." Now I get it. Thanks, AvE.
“Might be something wrong with the gauge or reg itself, which is... KIND OF SKETCHY” LMFAO🤣🤣🤣 Love your sarcasm!!!🙌🤣🙌 Great videos by the way! I’m watching one by one a little at a time.
Just a bit of trivia. MIG actually stands for Mechanized Inert Gas. That was its original name since it provided a mechanized way to deliver the consumable. How it got known as Metal Inert Gas is unknown, since all welding is done with metal. But once a misnomer gets out and get a life of its own, you can't stop it.
Funny how people say thah MIG is "Child Play" our trade school has a 6 months FULL TIME course on how to weld MIG, another 6 months on SMAW (Stick) and finally another 6 months on TIG... The whole training is around 2000 hours ove 2 years full time, same as machinist....!!!! Who says that welding is easy...??? BTW, there is soooo much more than pretty looking welds... ;)
And it come with a decent knowledge of techniques, metallurgy, variables, etc.... Then just like you mention, practice even if you think youre good, there is always better... ;) This is why I hate when a Neewbe says he made himself a trailer as his first project... lol
I always laugh when I see someone on a forum who never welded before say their first project will be making a trailer. Next they will be fabbing up a tubular frame for a race car, since they will be "experienced" by then. Someone asks to see a pic of their welds and they look like a mix of dingleberries and bird poop. I always wonder if they ever got the first project welded up.
Thanks for the welding info! I just bought myself a $300 Lincoln stick welder and some rods to try and weld for the first time. Unfortunately my house does not have a plug for the welder so I might have to buy and install my own plus with a breaker so I won't blow myself up. I will make a video on it as soon as I get home which might be friday night or saturday morning thanks for reading!
As a kid the shop had one low amp 110 circuit, so I did a good deal of welding with oxy acetylene, rather than drag a buzz box into the porch of the house and unplugging the kitchen range. Though considered obsolete, I still feel that is a good way to learn.
i went with the arc welder. i picked up a chinsey second hand one that fried itself after about 2 hours of welding. i then picked up an Amico arc welder and i love it. Like he mentioned, it is difficult to start but once you get going and start putting things together, its so much fun.
@@ChrisGilliamOffGrid no mine is just the Amico MMA-200 arc welder it runs on either 110 or 220 so i can use it anywhere. i wish it had a plasma cutter that would come in handy. ill check out your channel!
Throw that thoriated tungsten away and buy some lanthanated.. not so much for the radioactive qualities associated with thoriated but for better arc strike and less chance of porosity. Just my 2 cents.
Yeah but then you don't get that awesome cancer and the beautiful skill of setting off radiation detectors for the rest of your life from the built up thorium in your body.
@@healthiestmotorsport5145 thoriated works on AC you just get dingleberries and cracking if you weld long enough without dipping. Which, for most folks isn't an issue because they're dipping the tungsten like a chip in salsa. Lanthanated and ceriated do start an arc a lot easier using high freq. I currently run a buzz box and scratch start cause I'm cheap and don't weld aluminum in my home shop. So that issue doesn't come up much for me.
im a pipe welder and my experience with grey, purple and red tungsten is red tungsten is the best if you are good enough to keep the tungsten out of the weld. grey and purple are crap to me. if you have to scratch start itll ball up. red tungsten stays shaper longer as well.... at least in my experience
@@chaseallen1275 I agree 100% with you on that, at least with the older machines. These new inverter welders I'm not for sure. I've been told you can't stick weld with 5p on them.
I have that Vulcan ProTig 200 machine and I like it. I've probably got (estimated) around 100+ hours in TIG welding. It's definitely a skill to be learned.
@@tomwilliams8675 He demoed that there was gas, unless he bled it all out in between, there was enough gas for the short weld he did. Actually out of gas shoots sparks about like a sparkler and sounds like it's angry to boot. I've accidentally started welding both before purging the line at the start and before remembering to turn the gas on at all. Completely different experience.
In the words of my old instructor, "I could teach a monkey to mig weld!" Stick has always been my favorite, especially on thick plate. Crank up the pixies and give 'er what Fer.
Back when I was in the Air Farce I was stationed overseas and had a Europeen motorsicle. Well that darn motorsicle had a shifting lever bit that was stamped and bent heavy sheet metal, held onto the pivot pipe thing with a couple tack welds. Of course I'm a ways out from base on a ride when the dang tack welds busted, and had to do the left handed reach-around to get back. Being in the military we had things called MWR facilities - even a machine shop what for wrenching on vehicles of one or more wheel varieties. They also happened to have a MIG welder rig with wire of unbeknownst to me vintage or elemental source. I used that thing to glue that silly lookin speed holed sheet metal back onto the pivot pipe. Only took a couple tries at 'er, got 'er looking sweet. After I put out the tarmac fire I started with the MIG, got the lever pivot thing rustoleumed back to black and put 'er on the bike, back on the road without looking like I had a severe left foot itch. TL/DR: I MIG welded once. ONCE.
Thanks for that...I started out stick welding and then since went to mig.... my ultimate goal is to go to tig at some point. Have to build up the cash for some equipment. Just a hobbyist but always like a challenge.
I was sick the day at high school shop class when arc welding was taught. But luckily enough my brother let me use his to lay a bead about 3 inches long on a section of railroad railing. I think I mastered it.
2:40 Best way to strike an arc I found back in high school was to get all the half-used sticks and use them. Struck right up first time every time, the trick is that first bit of flux on the tip gets in the way, after that the flux is always just a hair longer than the metal and it's almost impossible to have the bastard stick when you start it up
As the only fabricator with tig experience at my current place of employment I am the go to guy for stainless and aluminum jobs. I only have about 90 hours of experience tig welding to date. I've noticed that the biggest time killer with tig is the cleaning process. Mig or stick you just weld it. With tig you have to remove any contaminants. Rust, cutting coolant residue,oxidation. Acetone is your friend.
Id say it really depends for everybody seriously, I learned TIG aluminum by myself 3 years ago never touched a TIG before and it took me like 3 or 4 week ends to get a decent looking bead, im now hig pressure certified 6G for stainless steel, and Iv been pipe welding for a year and a half now and learned high presure in 4 days before passing the qualification so all I can say is watch A LOT of videos on what to do and don't and really I kinda learned 50/50 by watching and practicing, understanding how tig work and what to do by watching videos even before getting into it really helps understanding whats going on and why your bead looks like this or that, that being said keep on guys !
I used to love welding. I got this crazy twich in my right eye though. Not sure if it was from the paint fumes or the prick forman, but my SHS shop teacher tought us on oxy welding and that set me up to be one of the most versatile welders of any shop id ever worked in. Im a bricklayer now though. I figured id give the eye a rest and im visiting all 9 rings of hell that southern Alberta has to offer.
Excellent insight on Mig vs Tig. Took some lessons for Mig many years ago, have been able to do functional Mig welding for years. Thought I'd buy a Tig and teach myself....nope. After 10 or so hours decided I am better served using and practicing Mig. So the pretty red Tig is just a little trophy piece til I have 3 free weeks to really practice.
One of my coworkers that used to be a welder and the die maintenance taught me some tig at my last job. Even welded a few die details back together. Really helps if you're having a bad day cause it forces you to calm down and concentrate. All the other maintenance people I worked with were pretty cool but shame about the management though. Never working for the japanese again.
Thank you very much uncle bumblefuk. Home gamer here who is interested thanks to TH-camrs like yourself, but knows fuk-all about welding. These old timers knew waaay more about welding at age 10 than I ever will so thank you for you intro 101 class.
MiG not used for thick metal? Since when? Mig is used when welding ships' hull plates together because you can plough in epic amounts of filler and of course using industrial mig sets with massive filler wire rolls lay down much more weld than stick. 16mm gap? No problem with Mig.
@@Pocketfarmer1 Dunno. I mean I'm a Marine Chief Engineer and for the last ten years worked on newbuilds and conversions......So most are 12mm. Heavy lifting and construction vessels maybe 25mm in high load areas. Ice breakers - take your pick but I've seen 125mm on the Russian ROROs designed for invading the USA.
@@mephInc Nope. But you can feed in a huge amount of wire at high speed. No way can you match the speed of a mig welder on large scale applications which is why ships are mostly built using mig
What’s even more fun is tig welding pipe with a rotary positioner, you’re feeding wire with one hand, walking the torch with the other hand while controlling amperage with one foot and the speed of the turn table with the other foot, gets a little confusing, one minute you want a couple more amps next thing you know a 90 deg flanged elbow goes into a low earth orbit!
4:20 - Learning to MIG weld actually DOES only take 15 minutes. But setting up the machine takes up to 10 years. If possible, buy a used machine and don't change the settings.
I lost count of the hundreds of hours running a TIG, doing things like aircraft tubing, (had a FAA weld cert) stainless steel boat jewelry... you know rails, radar arches, garb handles and the like. Yeah it takes hours and hours to get really good at it. Each welding discipline has it's own place and use.
MIG also takes time to master... many call it a metal squirt gun. Yeah it is but if you don't know how to set things up your welds don't hold up. I can say I have run tons of mig wire through a feeder... I would swap out a 550 pound drum just about every week for five and a half years. Never mind all the places I worked that were set up to use 35 to 44 pound spools.
Stick used all over and has it's place both in repair and production. I get the fun of fixing heavy equipment that someone else broke... So 6010 and 7018 welding rod is always on hand.
I use all three types of welding just about weekly where I work. The more you know, and flexible doing different tasks on a job site the more people want to keep you around and working. When it comes to welding I'm still learning new tricks after doing it for 45 years.
No matter where you work don't be afraid of getting your hands dirty doing someone else's job if for no other reason than to learn something new.
I'm getting old and don't have a lifetime to learn, but will be working with aluminum, and hopefully titanium on some catapult arms. I wanna break the sound barrier.
Well with aluminum you loose all heat treating when you weld on it, that's why in aircraft aluminum is riveted... Breaking the speed of sound, sounds like a interesting task with a catapult... The loads and stress on the arm are going to be very high. Planing on using something like a D8 Cat for the counter weight?
That's why bike frames are heat treated again after welding. And straightened as well :)
I reckon the secret to getting those kinds of speeds is in the trebuchet style of catapult. At that point, you're basically making a ginormous bull whip. You don't need to get the whole damn thing up to mach, just the tip, just for a second.
I used to tig weld for a company called semitool, machines hat make computer chips..... I miss tig ..... my happy place has always been in a molten puddle.....
this guy's sacarsm surpasses his welding, I give him 20 out 10.
I started out as an underwater welder on oil pipelines. I spent a long time using only stick. I recently started Using MiG and Tig . It’s a hell of a learning curve, even with 3 decades of welding experience
Funny occurrence happened to me this summer. I went to a local Humaine society grub truck fundraiser in Salem Oregon like we do every year. Except this year I happened to be donning my Focus you Fawk shirt. While I was ordering some delicious tacos, my better half pointed out a fellow wearing the Cockford Oille shirt in a near by line. I immediately shouted in his general direction, " Hey uncle Bumble" ( there were several little humans around) and pointed to my shirt. He then responded with a thumbs up. I wanted to procure photographic evidence, but the wait for tacos was to lengthy. Sadly, I never saw the genius again that evening.
That welding cabinet has 3-4 inches of space behind the drawers. I installed 3 220volt outlets and 3 110volt outlets on mine using that space so now I can plug in both welders and plasma cutter without constantly swapping. Of course you don't run all three at once or it would throw the breaker but it's nice having your extension cord wired to the cabinet and always plugged in.
That is a fantastic idea, and I will absolutely be borrowing it for my own personal use.
Don't worry, I'll make sure to give it back later.
wire it wright so they all can be used,, at the same time,, will come a day it is needed
when you are soo good at welding you dont have a foot pedal but an elbow pedal for the tig and you migweld with your right foot while your leftfoot is using the plasma. One day that wil happen, and you better prepare for it now.
That’s a commercial cart? Where can I get one?
harbor freight vulcan cart
This Old Tony and AvE in the same evening? It's a Crustmas Miracle!
Jeff C but it’s October?
Its like their minds have melded. Sorry, *welded*
And both about TIG nonetheless!
Its a Festivus Miracle
now we need em on the same vid
Calls TIG welding cheating then proceeds to dip his tungsten. As an avid TIG welder, that bit of irony was delicious. Loved this one.
(speaking of teaching) I used to start absolute beginners on Oxy-Acetylene and then try to move to TIG... this is traditional and makes sense to me. This term I'm starting people on TIG, for kind of trivial reasons. I have come up with a few little exercises that absolute beginners (like visitors to an open-house) can do without getting in trouble. The secret is having everything set, and letting them rest the cup on the work, as if you were about to start walking the cup but didn't. It's possible to build up from that systematically in one session. I think people tend to panic when they see the control panel of the welder, and am thinking about taping off all the stuff we're not using at the time. Ah, this is a work in progress. It's easy to bury people in information at the outset, I keep doing this. So, trying to simplify, and get them to QUICKLY see the arc, make a puddle, see the shielding effect, see the penetration, melt a little hole in the work... right at the outset! The thinking is that if this grabs their interest, THEN it might be time to introduce some important details....
Details like not setting yourself on fire?
Mig is the go-to to any home repair and project, Tig is for the connoisseurs and stick is fine for or those windy conditions on the field...
I don't trust anything MIG welded from anyone idc if they've been doing it 1yr or 35.
I've had to fix welds from both
@@jonathangarzon2798 You'll probably never see this comment, thanks to youtubes BS comment system now, but whatever the case, with MIG, from what little I've picked up, Flux core wire & the wire with shielding gas behave just a bit different. Flux core seems to penetrate & work its way into the work, a bit more aggressively than, wire with shielding gas... for whatever reason?
But then again, prep of the work is 8/10ths the battle
Learnt to oxy weld as an apprentice in the 80's no welding seems hard after that
Same but I learned around 20 years ago, oxy welding is an art and is still my favorite process for small stuff.
what impresses me most is that you have a goddamn HUGE pun/metaphor/innuendo dictionary and at the SAME TIME, great attention to detail on what you do. As an aside, you would be VERY good at stand-up comedy.
Dude!! "200 hrs of practice ain't gonna do it" you say.. I've tried stickwelding - got it figured out after 10-12 sticks. Tried MIG welding, figured that out after 15-20 hrs.. tried TIG welding, figured that out after a couple of minutes, TIG is, for me, the easiest way to weld. Taking in mind im an old airbrusher and have the coordination in my hands and i think it all comes down to that - coordination. Learning when the puddle needs filler, and learning the right hand to actually give filler and vice versa. Love your videos btw!
I'm trying to learn stick welding. The most amazing thing is how much difference the angle of the rod makes.
I still stuck at it, but each time i do it i suck a bit less :)
I can't agree more with you final summation regarding which weld process to choose as a home-gamer. I use TIG, MIG, and stick for stainless, aluminum, and mild steel. And I ain't a ashamed to reach for the MIG more than half the time. But for anything purty and the shear satisfaction that comes from the challenge of laying down a nice weld, you just can't beat the TIG. Stick is always a blast and very gratifying on the thick dirty shit in wind, rain, or snow. It's all great!
Mate, I've tried quite a few different fabrication channels for finding out the correct information for various projects, and while I don't need to learn between the welding types, I enjoyed this video from beginning to end.
You have a great patter, hugely inventive swearing and more importantly than that: you're a great welder!
You've got a new subscriber buddy, and please don't ever dumb it down when it comes to teaching; I like to know the details of everything I'm up to, and you have a great vibe.
Much thanks!
as a welder, your humor is perfect.... good shit....as a tutorial for someone wanting to learn the humor can shadow out what you are trying to teach.....dingle berries everywhere...love it
Mig Tig or stick? all of the above :D. Some jobs work out wonderfully with the Tig, some you can squirt together with the Mig and even when you have $10,000 worth of European inverter Mig plant in front of you, some jobs work out better with a stick welder you paid $10 for at the junk yard!.
After I bought me a MMA/MIG inverter I discovered the same thing - that stick welding is quite enjoyable and I tend to prefer it. Even did some thick aluminium welds when my TIG had trouble overcoming the impurities in casting material.
And now TH-cam allows videos with someone beating their wood. At least this one used protection.
the shaft didnt have protection tho.
DEMONETIZED!
But not those dirty conservatives
Just bought the same TIG welder today. The fact that you use one coupled with the One year total satisfaction money back Guarantee. Helped me pull the trigger. Chris
My grandma told if you’re not making mistakes you’re not learning anything. She was so right. She’s been gone a long time and I miss her and her wisdom.thank you for your wisdom and putting in a way so many can understand.
I've been TIG welding for about five years and I can finally say that I just barely suck! I love doing it and have been using other processes for maybe 20 years that I got pretty good at but I just HAD to be able to weld Aluminium. It's been a hard uphill struggle but worth every curse word!! Put your tungsten in the Milcrappy drill and have a go at spinamathinging it on the grinder.
Thicker, veinier “stick welding” is hotter, and the bond lasts longer.
Or so my wife says.
Well. Good to know that you and your wife speak the "same language". LMAO
Apart from all of the gems of welding knowledge, it's worth subscribing just for the comedy.
I'm 54 and used a Mig off and on since age 8 (helping my dad make trailers, dune buggies and roll around metal benches). Well at age 30 I needed a welder at work and decided to get a small Miller TIG unit and I fell in love, within a week I was making museum quality welds. I felt like it was easier to master than the MIG. Slower, absolutely but I was not doing anything production like. Stick... Never could get a descent weld but I was using 40 year old rods...
I have thousands of hours on tig welding and I can always learn new things about it
"PAIN IN THE.... *demonetized*"
Someone once told me that stick welding was the best choice to start out with. Oh wait, it was you...
One thing I learned by watching this video. You welders have one hell of sense of humor!! AvE can always take up stand-up when he is tired of welding/videos. Funny shit right here folks! The comments are equally as good. You guys Rock!!! Cheers from Motown!
The T in TIG actually stands for Tony.
TIG = ToT Incessantly Grinding
TIG old Tony
omg the “pitter patter lets get at ‘er” killed me because it reminds me of Letterkenny 😂
Missus just ran out to the garden to tell me two new seasons just come out. I'm surprised I'm not watching it right now.
@Erik Mikkelsaar good 'n' you?
I came for some welding tips and found one of the best youtube comedians I've ever seen. Laughing too hard to focus on the actual video. Pure comic genius.
My dad bought me a gas torch when I was in high school. I still have it. This video is wonderful in that I finally got a pro’s perspective on electric welding , and the three electric welding processes typically marketed to a hobby welder.
I suddenly feel the need to go weld something, to the bat cave!
I learned to TIG before MIG and still use mostly TIG to this day. I only really ever use MIG for tack welds to set up the work for TIG welding.
Or, as AvE hints... you can go weld the snot out it with a MIG then run over the bead withe the TIG (pretty quickly) and make it look Beeeeautiful :-)
When I was in school learning SMAW, the instructor would let me use the TIG welder after finishing for the day. Whole different ball game. I had learned oxy acetylene welding with a filler rod previously, but throwing the foot pedal in with the TIG machine takes some getting used to.
I spent a year (4 hours a day, 5 days a week) at a welding school for TIG. I'm competent, but not a master. So many things go into a weld job, of any process. Prep work, stick selection, machine settings, material, position. It's a fucking art form!
I can already sense next week's vidjayo comin' up: "Two girls - walking one cup."
grinding and sharpening electrodes isn't bad. it's just frustrating every time you dip the tip or get filler on it, you have to stop and change electrodes. keep a pile of them sharpened so you don't have to go back and forth to the grinder until you have dirtied a dozen. it takes a lot of practice to keep em clean through lots of welds!
Tig is the most toughest
Just do like some of my old classmates did- sharpen both ends of your tungstens, booger up one end, switch it end for end, booger it up again, and wonder how in the hell you're going to get it out of there...
You don't dip the tip, you don't stab the tungsten with the filler. Easiest way to learn is lay wire. Tig isn't very hard. Just gotta focus you fauck
Yep I agree with everything you said. I bought a TIG unit because of its versatility and the lack of sparks ( my shed is small and lots of stuff in it ), it does beautiful welds when I get it right but its bloody hard to get right as I use it only occasionally. Equally the Gas is expensive so what I tend to do is tack weld my designs and then take them to somebody who knows what they are doing. I definitely don't regret buying the TIG but I also know my limits
great information, I,ve been considering tig (have done stick in the past) Leaning about all of the additional stuff makes me not want to rush into without more thought Thanks again.
i like TIG as a hobbyist. why should i choose a simple if i can do it complicated :) jokes o a side. it is more challenging, but at the same time more rewarding.
.... remembering the days when all we had was a cutting torch and a buzz box. And learning to braze aluminum. You young people have it way too easy.
Thought I was decent with a torch, till I tried aluminum. Stuff turns to smoke quicker than you could blink an eye.
Yep, temps critical and the angles you maintain on torch and rod important. same with heliarcing .......
We are stuck working with you old farts and having to hear your "In my day!!" stories all day long =P
In the blink of an eye you'll be a gray fuzzycat and it'll be your turn.
Love the stencil work. and thanks for the review, I'm looking to get into this but only as a hobby.
I learned to stick weld for 4-H (never as a paid gig mind) on an old Forney C5 type, 250 amp max IIRC, probably from the 60s or 70s...in the mid-late 90s. Something primal about melting steel together. I never did anything big or fancy, but I made a few things for the farm I grew up on. Stick welder seems to works well for farm equipment and heavier stuff. Doubles as a poor-man's plasma cutter on thin stuff whether you wanted it to or not :D
Red and about the size of a big mini-fridge. Big, satisfying CLUNKER of a on/off switch on the right side, just slide your right hand back between the unit and the workbench support leg (6x6 timber).
Dangit, now I'm homesick. Oughta call my cousin up and see if my kids would like to visit where I grew up.
Maybe it was the skill of the operators where I was, but I always assumed that MIG stood for "Maybe It's Glued?" (I may have a wee bias though since I was the grinder who had to make their shit look like it was in contract spec)
Always keep your tip clean!
I started with MIG, actually fluxcore, to learn welding. It is definitely not too hard to learn, but you still need to put in quite a few hours to get to the point of mastering it.
I wish I had started with TIG or stick though, my next welder I'm thinking of getting a TIG.
Never liked using a foot pedal, but I never really had a position where I needed that much control. I guess it would be super useful on a turntable...but I always adjusted my Voltage, Movement Speed, and the amount of Rod I melt. Have had 6G Certifcation, and my favorite to burn was 6" Sched 40 purged piping.
Great explanation though, and tbh it took me 6 - 9 months before I could even weld TIG...but once I got the hang of it, I love it.
For home use, I would have NO problem using the "Farmers Rod" stick welding something up. I like all welding processes, and each of them have their own application/uses.
The absolute neatest thing I've ever seen was a process called "Friction Welding."
MIG: Hot glue gun for metal.
MIG: for the "I'm totally a welder" types.
I prefer to hand those guys a rod, then sit back and enjoy a good laugh
I learned Arc and then oxy. Much preferred Arc to everything I've done so far. Just something satisfying about it. Granted, I learned on massive old Lincoln machines from the 70's and 80's.
I learned on my granddad's old Lincoln tombstone back in the 70's as well. Gotta love the good old days when safety wasn't a factor and the kid's weren't all entitled pussies.
"5 days ago"?
Vids go up on patron early. A week I think.
"You don't need to go out and buy bottle of co2 gas, just nick a few co2 fire extinguishers and shove an adapter on it!"
Confessions of a wielder (not me as I cant wield)
I cant stop watching your videos i must have watched every video you have posted at least twice i love your videos and how your honest about everything you review your making me smarter everyday keep up the good content
As a welder I'd make a great ditch-digger. Have mostly managed to avoid it altogether, leaning on my shovel while other people do the work. But fact is, I have never quite understood why people said, "TIG? Don't even think about it." Now I get it. Thanks, AvE.
I just learned howto do TIG welding at my engineering schpol today then this shows up what a nice coincidence.
What the shit is going on at the end?
Making pastry dough. He probably went to a baking class with his wife.
Makes me wonder if AvE or Mrs. AvE has another channel we dont know about 😂
Kinda sounded like a garage band drummer practicing the opening for Van Halen's "Hot for Teacher".
Beating his pastry. A two handed job for some.
Wifey beating him after using the c word.
“Might be something wrong with the gauge or reg itself, which is... KIND OF SKETCHY” LMFAO🤣🤣🤣
Love your sarcasm!!!🙌🤣🙌
Great videos by the way! I’m watching one by one a little at a time.
Just a bit of trivia. MIG actually stands for Mechanized Inert Gas. That was its original name since it provided a mechanized way to deliver the consumable. How it got known as Metal Inert Gas is unknown, since all welding is done with metal. But once a misnomer gets out and get a life of its own, you can't stop it.
good to know.
Funny how people say thah MIG is "Child Play" our trade school has a 6 months FULL TIME course on how to weld MIG, another 6 months on SMAW (Stick) and finally another 6 months on TIG... The whole training is around 2000 hours ove 2 years full time, same as machinist....!!!! Who says that welding is easy...???
BTW, there is soooo much more than pretty looking welds... ;)
Pierre's Garage it’s not that hard to start it’s hard to be really good it’s like shooting a gun you need practice
And it come with a decent knowledge of techniques, metallurgy, variables, etc.... Then just like you mention, practice even if you think youre good, there is always better... ;)
This is why I hate when a Neewbe says he made himself a trailer as his first project... lol
Pierre's Garage lol you’re excatly right. Scary when they make thier own made up weight trailer lol I try to never be driving behind them.
I'm going to school for welding and only got 7 weeks of TIG, which sucks because I really like it.
I always laugh when I see someone on a forum who never welded before say their first project will be making a trailer. Next they will be fabbing up a tubular frame for a race car, since they will be "experienced" by then. Someone asks to see a pic of their welds and they look like a mix of dingleberries and bird poop. I always wonder if they ever got the first project welded up.
A welder you ain’t, for Christmas I’m getting you a grinder and paint.
Thanks for the welding info! I just bought myself a $300 Lincoln stick welder and some rods to try and weld for the first time. Unfortunately my house does not have a plug for the welder so I might have to buy and install my own plus with a breaker so I won't blow myself up. I will make a video on it as soon as I get home which might be friday night or saturday morning thanks for reading!
Those last five seconds blew my friggin mind!
So many layhers, butt so simple.
MIG welding - 15 minutes to get going 1500 hours to start getting good.
my MIG welds still look like junk after 25 years.
theres a lot of truth and wisdom in that.
The cheapest way to get into welding is to buy 2 pair of vice grips some copper wire and two car batteries
you could use jumper cables
Magnifying glass and direct sunlight. Efficient
As a kid the shop had one low amp 110 circuit, so I did a good deal of welding with oxy acetylene, rather than drag a buzz box into the porch of the house and unplugging the kitchen range. Though considered obsolete, I still feel that is a good way to learn.
i went with the arc welder. i picked up a chinsey second hand one that fried itself after about 2 hours of welding. i then picked up an Amico arc welder and i love it. Like he mentioned, it is difficult to start but once you get going and start putting things together, its so much fun.
@@ChrisGilliamOffGrid nice man! Haha don't we all? Haha
@@ChrisGilliamOffGrid no mine is just the Amico MMA-200 arc welder it runs on either 110 or 220 so i can use it anywhere. i wish it had a plasma cutter that would come in handy. ill check out your channel!
Throw that thoriated tungsten away and buy some lanthanated.. not so much for the radioactive qualities associated with thoriated but for better arc strike and less chance of porosity. Just my 2 cents.
Yeah but then you don't get that awesome cancer and the beautiful skill of setting off radiation detectors for the rest of your life from the built up thorium in your body.
The other bonus being that you can use them for AC too
@@healthiestmotorsport5145 thoriated works on AC you just get dingleberries and cracking if you weld long enough without dipping. Which, for most folks isn't an issue because they're dipping the tungsten like a chip in salsa. Lanthanated and ceriated do start an arc a lot easier using high freq. I currently run a buzz box and scratch start cause I'm cheap and don't weld aluminum in my home shop. So that issue doesn't come up much for me.
im a pipe welder and my experience with grey, purple and red tungsten is red tungsten is the best if you are good enough to keep the tungsten out of the weld. grey and purple are crap to me. if you have to scratch start itll ball up. red tungsten stays shaper longer as well.... at least in my experience
@@chaseallen1275
I agree 100% with you on that, at least with the older machines. These new inverter welders I'm not for sure. I've been told you can't stick weld with 5p on them.
For the first 30 seconds was this dude even speaking English
I thought he was drunk 😅
Friggen love your show sir. I wish you and your loved ones the best. Godspeed.
I have that Vulcan ProTig 200 machine and I like it. I've probably got (estimated) around 100+ hours in TIG welding. It's definitely a skill to be learned.
nice video as always
Between you and that Chuck E guy... I bought a bulcan
You're getting some flying sparks. Seems to me you need some pre flow, or need to turn up your gas, reduce stick out, or turn your space heater down.
It's probably just the dirty, no good carbon.
He was out of gas.
@@tomwilliams8675 He demoed that there was gas, unless he bled it all out in between, there was enough gas for the short weld he did. Actually out of gas shoots sparks about like a sparkler and sounds like it's angry to boot. I've accidentally started welding both before purging the line at the start and before remembering to turn the gas on at all. Completely different experience.
In the words of my old instructor, "I could teach a monkey to mig weld!" Stick has always been my favorite, especially on thick plate. Crank up the pixies and give 'er what Fer.
Back when I was in the Air Farce I was stationed overseas and had a Europeen motorsicle. Well that darn motorsicle had a shifting lever bit that was stamped and bent heavy sheet metal, held onto the pivot pipe thing with a couple tack welds. Of course I'm a ways out from base on a ride when the dang tack welds busted, and had to do the left handed reach-around to get back. Being in the military we had things called MWR facilities - even a machine shop what for wrenching on vehicles of one or more wheel varieties. They also happened to have a MIG welder rig with wire of unbeknownst to me vintage or elemental source. I used that thing to glue that silly lookin speed holed sheet metal back onto the pivot pipe. Only took a couple tries at 'er, got 'er looking sweet. After I put out the tarmac fire I started with the MIG, got the lever pivot thing rustoleumed back to black and put 'er on the bike, back on the road without looking like I had a severe left foot itch.
TL/DR: I MIG welded once. ONCE.
45 metric degrees does not equal 45 American degrees.
a wise meme once told me that if you grind your welds, you are a grinder not a welder
As *someone* once said, "Grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't"
Thanks for that...I started out stick welding and then since went to mig.... my ultimate goal is to go to tig at some point. Have to build up the cash for some equipment. Just a hobbyist but always like a challenge.
I was sick the day at high school shop class when arc welding was taught. But luckily enough my brother let me use his to lay a bead about 3 inches long on a section of railroad railing. I think I mastered it.
Will this be a new shop for AVE?
Now call Jody
Where's your TIG Finger Ave? Jodi should send you one -- and a ferric cup (great for playing cricket too).
2:40 Best way to strike an arc I found back in high school was to get all the half-used sticks and use them. Struck right up first time every time, the trick is that first bit of flux on the tip gets in the way, after that the flux is always just a hair longer than the metal and it's almost impossible to have the bastard stick when you start it up
As the only fabricator with tig experience at my current place of employment I am the go to guy for stainless and aluminum jobs. I only have about 90 hours of experience tig welding to date. I've noticed that the biggest time killer with tig is the cleaning process. Mig or stick you just weld it. With tig you have to remove any contaminants. Rust, cutting coolant residue,oxidation. Acetone is your friend.
Id like to be introduced to Dawn if'n ye don't mind.
If you're going to try an fill her Crack, your next job will be fixing a broken heart.
Alcohol is a hell of a drug.
He said joints.
Mind we were missing a "Korntact"
Now legal in the state of Canadia I understand!
Korntact high leads to korntact withdrawal bahd.
Id say it really depends for everybody seriously, I learned TIG aluminum by myself 3 years ago never touched a TIG before and it took me like 3 or 4 week ends to get a decent looking bead, im now hig pressure certified 6G for stainless steel, and Iv been pipe welding for a year and a half now and learned high presure in 4 days before passing the qualification so all I can say is watch A LOT of videos on what to do and don't and really I kinda learned 50/50 by watching and practicing, understanding how tig work and what to do by watching videos even before getting into it really helps understanding whats going on and why your bead looks like this or that, that being said keep on guys !
I used to love welding. I got this crazy twich in my right eye though. Not sure if it was from the paint fumes or the prick forman, but my SHS shop teacher tought us on oxy welding and that set me up to be one of the most versatile welders of any shop id ever worked in. Im a bricklayer now though. I figured id give the eye a rest and im visiting all 9 rings of hell that southern Alberta has to offer.
AvE and Tony at the same evening? Not for us who can't afford to be patrons 😔
Man I had to learn oxy-acetylene… then stick, then mig, now I want to learn tig
If you can braze with a torch tig will be easy.
Excellent insight on Mig vs Tig. Took some lessons for Mig many years ago, have been able to do functional Mig welding for years. Thought I'd buy a Tig and teach myself....nope. After 10 or so hours decided I am better served using and practicing Mig. So the pretty red Tig is just a little trophy piece til I have 3 free weeks to really practice.
One of my coworkers that used to be a welder and the die maintenance taught me some tig at my last job. Even welded a few die details back together. Really helps if you're having a bad day cause it forces you to calm down and concentrate. All the other maintenance people I worked with were pretty cool but shame about the management though. Never working for the japanese again.
As I heard some time ago, you should start welding journey with oxy/acetylene ;>
I think thats what really teaches you how to weld.
I did in highschool. Rumour is the teacher is still laughing
I know you turned the argon bottel on, but did any actual get to the weld?
Seems like it was only spitting a little, so something was.
Did you look at the weld? Porosity like mad. There was some shielding, but not enough.
Great information and advice on what to use and how they all work
Thank you very much uncle bumblefuk. Home gamer here who is interested thanks to TH-camrs like yourself, but knows fuk-all about welding. These old timers knew waaay more about welding at age 10 than I ever will so thank you for you intro 101 class.
The best part is when you accidentally touch your filler metal to your electrode and you taze yourself
how many volts is that?
@@sydmushas At least 4
MiG not used for thick metal? Since when? Mig is used when welding ships' hull plates together because you can plough in epic amounts of filler and of course using industrial mig sets with massive filler wire rolls lay down much more weld than stick. 16mm gap? No problem with Mig.
How thick do you think ship hull plating is? Try around an inch.
@@Pocketfarmer1 Dunno. I mean I'm a Marine Chief Engineer and for the last ten years worked on newbuilds and conversions......So most are 12mm. Heavy lifting and construction vessels maybe 25mm in high load areas. Ice breakers - take your pick but I've seen 125mm on the Russian ROROs designed for invading the USA.
I can lay down a WAY thicker bead with stick than MIG. Fairly certain MIG doesn't come in 1/4" and up ;)
@@mephInc Nope. But you can feed in a huge amount of wire at high speed. No way can you match the speed of a mig welder on large scale applications which is why ships are mostly built using mig
There is also the 'Submerged Arc' variant.
What’s even more fun is tig welding pipe with a rotary positioner, you’re feeding wire with one hand, walking the torch with the other hand while controlling amperage with one foot and the speed of the turn table with the other foot, gets a little confusing, one minute you want a couple more amps next thing you know a 90 deg flanged elbow goes into a low earth orbit!
I like the way this fella rolls :) Thanks for sharing.
Holly shit, I am first! Is this the new AvE studio your filming in? Has the Empire of Dirt grown?
He's been butchering dead tree carcass, possibly secretly enjoying it too.
4:20 - Learning to MIG weld actually DOES only take 15 minutes. But setting up the machine takes up to 10 years. If possible, buy a used machine and don't change the settings.
Holy Shit, I only understand about 1/2 of what this guy is rambling on about but I'm a fan. Good shit.
Tig welds are beautiful. Eventually I’ll get into it. Seems to be the cleanest of the processes except for all of the prep work.
Hardly any more prep work than any other process, unless your doing x-ray quality welds. Just wire brush and go.