It's Time to Burst the Academic Bubble | Mariana Cerdeira | TEDxHUBerlin

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  • @thomaskotch4770
    @thomaskotch4770 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    PhD in chemistry, two post-docs, assistant prof, no tenure. Now I teach high school. I make a great living, I love my students and I can still adjunct at night. There's no way I'd try "higher ed" again.

  • @AdrienLegendre
    @AdrienLegendre ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There should be 2 PhD tracts: academic PhD tract to become university/research center researcher or applied PhD tract to apply research knowledge in industry. The problem occurs for PhDs in subject areas with the only alternative is high school teacher.

    • @samhughes1140
      @samhughes1140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And most states don't even have programs that would help PhDs in a subject area transition into being a high school teacher, often requiring several extra years of training, despite already having plenty of experience teaching.

  • @flaguser4196
    @flaguser4196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    stay long in academia enough and you won't be doing science anymore

    • @limo-swine6537
      @limo-swine6537 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I just did my MS Thesis project in a toxic lab and I already don't want to do science anymore. All plans for PhD cancel.

    • @zakyjaafar3946
      @zakyjaafar3946 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now with all the ranking rage, academia is just a paper churning factory, scholars being menial labor striving to meet the numbers.

  • @thatsacademic-withstephent2204
    @thatsacademic-withstephent2204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Some very true statements in this speech! What is interesting is that the quality of junior academic hires is now becoming so high that the talent hierarchy in faculties is increasingly inverted. Is academia unique in this regard? I'm not sure.

    • @trying3841
      @trying3841 ปีที่แล้ว

      Academia is the biggest scam. You can write a peer review paper on anything. You spend $100k to make $30k a year. A true scam

  • @user-ks8ux4ig6b
    @user-ks8ux4ig6b ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As someone in academia I don't remember students being judged for going into the private sector. Saying that we call students greedy traitors is drama.

    • @thomaskotch4770
      @thomaskotch4770 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I respectfully disagree. My PhD advisor stopped contact with me when I left an academic position.

  • @leebannister3759
    @leebannister3759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    OMG, I could take this video and scale it to high school and what counselors and telling students they must go to post-secondary.

  • @sahilgupta3564
    @sahilgupta3564 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very motivational speech.
    Thanks for uploading this.

  • @daehyeonkim1224
    @daehyeonkim1224 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. Spot on.

  • @betopimentel8178
    @betopimentel8178 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Delightful talk, Mari!

  • @chung-holin3554
    @chung-holin3554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spot on!!

  • @Buckoux
    @Buckoux ปีที่แล้ว

    She is doing what most academics are guilty of; all answers are dissertations. Ask an academic 'what time is it?' and they will expound on how to make a watch even though they have never made a watch. Having only a Bachelors of Science in Aerospace Engineering I don't have to worry about convincing the universe about my bullxhit.

  • @VirandoGringa
    @VirandoGringa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Adorei! Acabei de ver sua entrevista no Doutorando numa fria e gostei muito desse TED Talk. Eu fui até o mestrado, mas desisti da academia porque também não queria ser professora e pesquisadora. Hoje tenho vontade de retornar para seguir todos esses caminhos q mencionou como empreender, ou escrever sobre ciência. Comunicação científica é uma necessidade hoje em dia e ainda bem que temos gente que quer fazer isso!

  • @aniksamiurrahman6365
    @aniksamiurrahman6365 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was b4 COVID. I wonder what's the situation now.

  • @MuslimEng765
    @MuslimEng765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was afraid of PHD, Madam. Thank you

  • @facfortiaetpatere4287
    @facfortiaetpatere4287 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Brilliant talk Mariana ! Academia resembles a cult

    • @siddarth2599
      @siddarth2599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh my God, that's exactly what I say to myself about academia. It's possibly the largest cult but without a leader

  • @5kamon
    @5kamon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When we had an alternative career seminar (at a physical chemistry institute) they set wife of one of the directors to talk about her maternity products business. The dude himself is supposed to be the career advisor? What a joke. People leave for industrial data analysis/management, consulting or funding agencies jobs. Sometimes they still get to do research and development for industry.

  • @PZJBimha
    @PZJBimha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good advice. I like the suggestions.

  • @smmr5813
    @smmr5813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent speech, very informative, very eye-opening. than you!

  • @lamarozzo
    @lamarozzo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The whole premise is wrong: academics don't complain if PhDs go to Industry, and for sure they don't call former students
    traitors or greedy.

  • @annaturquoise7701
    @annaturquoise7701 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes

  • @robertmazurowski5974
    @robertmazurowski5974 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Academic carreer is for people from Rich families, It always has been this way. You got to academia not to make money.
    There are not many scientists needed. Most smart people should work in industry.
    Unfortunately there is a big probability you will never discover anything usefull, hence money going towards academia is not big like industry.
    If your from poor or middle class you go to university to get a good job and build wealth becasue if you go to academia with poor background then your research is depended on conformism, beuracracy, and you will be used by the beurocratic/career academics for their own goals.

  • @soccersprint
    @soccersprint ปีที่แล้ว

    Good talk

  • @markopinteric
    @markopinteric ปีที่แล้ว

    I was doing PhD around 2000 and it was considered pretty normal for PhD candidates not to aim at academia careers.

  • @MusangKing-b3o
    @MusangKing-b3o 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is all about paper publications=tenureship/professorship=more government research grants= money trickling into university's coffer
    and not about reproducibility in science.

  • @marianavaz9074
    @marianavaz9074 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mari! Também sou uma ovelhinha negra. Gostei muito do seu vídeo! Parabéns pelo trabalho!

  • @gemmymartin
    @gemmymartin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ♥️

  • @alfredhitchcock45
    @alfredhitchcock45 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brazilians are beautiful

  • @nairamartirosyan798
    @nairamartirosyan798 ปีที่แล้ว

    Millennials didn't experience recession or war is a joke. 2008 was huge economic crisis that we still feel to this day. Majority of us were not even entering a work force. A lot of people, who are not from privileged western countries, experienced war. So, no, our life's were not easier that our parents. It's just a delusion that our parents wanted us to believe

  • @alfredhitchcock45
    @alfredhitchcock45 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jordan Peterson and Sal Khan are inside those bubbles

  • @vins1979
    @vins1979 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A bit overinflated talk, really. No one complains if every single PhD student ends up in the private sector, and no one discourage them to do so. Actually, many professors discourage their students to pursue the academic career, because it is very competitive and the academic market is already saturated, so it is not even rational to try to enter and to stay in it: the odds are just too little. No one thinks that scientists in the private sector are "failed scientists". And actually nowadays many universities are actually collaborating with the private industry and start ups in "innovative projects" and as part of "engaging with public and private stakeholders". Finally, apart from the labs, the universities also have designated office helping students to understand what their "transferrable skills" are and transition to the private sector. This Ted Talk is no based on facts, I'm sorry, but on personal experiences and perceptions. It is very unscientific.

    • @ProdByAnouar
      @ProdByAnouar ปีที่แล้ว

      See it from.the perspective of the student and suddenly this talk is highly adding value

    • @vins1979
      @vins1979 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProdByAnouar I've been a PhD student myself and I find little value in this talk.

    • @ProdByAnouar
      @ProdByAnouar ปีที่แล้ว

      Statistically ...you prove nothing :)

    • @vins1979
      @vins1979 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProdByAnouar just like the person who delivers this talk, isn't it?

  • @michaelcap9550
    @michaelcap9550 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Avoid academia. To the Trades!

  • @nononouh
    @nononouh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8

  • @alfredhitchcock45
    @alfredhitchcock45 ปีที่แล้ว

    Be a biology writer

  • @alfredhitchcock45
    @alfredhitchcock45 ปีที่แล้ว

    Common sense what would you do with biology