Go Inside Finland's $200 Million 6,000 Person Bunker
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While western countries neglected their civilian shelters after Cold War ended, Finland kept expanding it. What an amazing country.
Yeah, pissed off that my country neglected that part for 30 years, in the "eternal peace" era. Finland was smart!
They also decided to talk shit about NATO for decades and now they're begging to join. They only owe about 2% of their GDP every year for about 40 years.
Well even workplaces has bunkers :D
Cold war never really ended.
@@theayatollahofrockandrolla In most of western minds it did. Not in Russian though.
That's very smart to make a bunker that in peacetime acts as a garage. It ensures that the bunker stays operational and maintained while the money for parking can be used to maintain the bunker itself.
Much better than bunkers that have no other purpose and were abandoned over time because it costs money to maintain them (Ex-Soviet Union and ex-Warsaw Pact bunkers for example). Not to mention Finland has bunkers for almost the whole population of their country, that's awesome!
There is sports centers, swimming pools etc. under the ground also, just because of that: dual purpose use.
I believe that there's a building code that requires the building to have bunkers if x amount of people are in it throughout the day. All the high rises have them, and most if not all of the larger office buildings too. Bomb shelter is such a common thing in Finland that when I was young and saw those bomb shelters in different places it honestly didn't even occur to me what the main purpose of those were. The whole word kinda had lost its meaning, it was just a space that was being used to something. "There are band rehearsals this evening in the bomb shelter" didn't sound strange at all.
@@tapio_m6861 Not x people but if the size is more than 1200 square meters.
@@Suchtzocker Well usually such a thing won't come by an absolute surprise and if it was total surprise without any warning, people would not have time to go to the shelters anyway. If there was a threat of war or war alredy declared, then obviously these places will not be used as parking lots anymore and they will be made ready. The cars are there only during the day anyway, I don't think many if any park there over night.
As a Finnish person myself, i think it's cool that one of my favorite channels came to visit my country.
I use those bunkers as shortcuts and tunnels when walking in the center of the city when the weather is bad (winter). There are entrance / exit points all around the city because they are parking areas for shoppers. This means you can walk from one mall to the other or to the metro and train stations through them without worrying about snow and ice or the weather in general. I don't think anyone here thinks of them as bunkers, to us they are just parking lots that double as tunnels.
(part of the fun is feeling you have some urban skill that outsiders don't master because the network is quite large and knowing the practical routes takes some familiarity with the system. I don't see others walking through them, they go to / from their car)
Anyone can just walk in and out, no problem?
Isn't it off limits to the public?
Don't gangs, homeless people or immigrants live in there?
@@alexanderthegreatsdad.3831 Anyone can walk in and out. They're fully monitored by cameras and private security. They're as neat as a shopping mall and indeed most of what you will see is parking space for mall customers. Some areas even play bird songs from the speakers.
@@alexanderthegreatsdad.3831 Fortunately, We don't have those kinds of problems here.
There are two main reasons to why bunkers aren't built for 100% of the population. 1) A large part will be serving in both military and civilian total defence. AFAIK in Sweden it's calculated to something like 10-15%. 2) In the countryside there is less need for formal bunkers as there is little likelihood of any direct targeting.
There are bunkers for 4.4 millions people in Finland
Do you think this monkey even thought about it? :D
The dude said 17:07 that 1 million of the population are up north living with raindears lamo,
Hide in a hole for 6 months and what do you come out to? And you kick yourself coz you missed the best firework display ever.
@@ianddavidson1 What? You think its going to be months of continuing bombing nonstop through day and night with no chance to go out or leave the place? Dude..
The difference in Finland and America is, Finlands politicians are like “we can fit 6,000 of our citizens in this bunker for their safety”!….American politicians are like “instead of saving citizens in this bunker I’m gonna save all my personal possessions in this citizen paid for bunker”!
You can really tell which country cares for their citizens more. Just looking at these systems I am ashamed of the United States.
a large bunker would be a more valuable target for the enemy. You're correct about personal bunkers, and they'll be fighting each other for supplies when they get low.
@@TheBlackB0X It's no wonder citizen hate taxes when they get basically nothing in return.
@@spugelo359 For sure, millions and billions get cut off our checks to cut deals and then kick backs on those deals.
Politicians don't care about their citizens in any country.
I didn't know Finland was just as prepared as Switserland pretty much. Love the video, love bunkers and just the amount of space and technical rooms you need for airconditioning is crazy.
And there are hundreds of these all over Helsinki, and almost every apartment block has a bunker too.
That's Aimo (pronounced EYE-MO) Park, Aimo is a super common name in Finland. Some of the more interesting Aimos we're Aimo Lahti who basically designed every Finnish made gun up to WWII, and Aimo Koivunen who was a somewhat famous Finnish soldier who famously took an entire companies rations of percotin (meth) and survived for 2 weeks behind Soviet lines tripping balls.
Interesting 🧐
@@AtlasSurvivalShelters This man is an establishment lackey . all youtune groomers are!.
@@Niels357 "youtoon"...? Really...?
Yeah, when I learned about Mr "I'm tripping balls", I had to look it up, cuz I thought "there's no way someone could take that much meth and live", and then I looked up the medical records and found out that yes indeed he did take that much meth and somehow survived
@@Shinzon23 what's his name is in the club! knowing the ins and outs! So Nothing to do with predicting anything. and all this is just another distraction! both sides are in the club. you only get to see what they want you to see. youtube is in the club so guess what all youtubers you get to see are club members. all flying monkey's, lackey's, foot soldiers, DOGS!
$200,000,000/6,000 people is only $33,333 per person. That's a lot cheaper than housing in the US.
33,333€ is not enough for a down payment in Finland
Comparing an apple and an egg
@@kaptein1247 why not? They are both edible
@@GFY11 so are you
In the United States I guarantee you it would be over three times that much money
Helsinki has a population of ~650 000 but has shelter space for way more than that because the government counted in the tourists and visitors aswell😌
and you know, the thousands of people commuting to the city every day
Good to know. Hopefully there will be ample warning.
So you don't have these in the US? If you'd wanted to be really impressed, you could have driven to the Stockmann department store's garage. And try how far you can walk or drive without getting to surface level. You can pretty much cross whole central Helsinki underneath by car if you have the permit. And to Suomenlinna too.
Meillä erittäin laaja tunneliverkosto ympäri Suomea armeijan käytössä.
That Central maintanance tunnel of Helsinki is an epic one!
There is a reason that US do not need bunkers as Finns do.
We have them in usa dont be fooled. You just dont hear about them. A lot are used for underground warehousing in peacetime and military ect
That puts The Vaults from Fallout to shame.
Cool to see you visited us Finns, and happy that you saw some of our bunkers! Been watching your channel for years, and I love the bunkers your company makes. I live in the countryside here in Finland, so maybe one day I will get one of your products. As a prepper I appreciate the idea. Also really nice of you to work in Ukraine.
Loved my 11 months in Finland in 1999. The main department store in Helsinki had its carpark as a bunker.. or vice versa. The Staff duty-free shop for Finnair is a bomb shelter too or was back then. Loved seeing the city again... great times...
I dont know if theres any youtube tours (prob not) but theres also a massive bunker system carved under the Helsinki main airport that will house a lot of soldiers and command stuff, if someone tries to paratroop the main airport it will be stormed from underground from many places to secure it. We had a lot of practice in those areas when I was serving my time.
There are also bunker systems that go underwater to the close by islands near Helsinki.
@@finbenton Tuo saattaa olla jo sellaista tietoa jota ei välttämättä kannata täällä paljastaa.
@@koljolat yleisiä tietojahan nuo on varmaankin. Kyllä ryssät tietää samat asiat luultavasti. Kunhan ei tarkkoja yksityiskohtia ja sijainteja kerro. Ei nuo bunkkeritkaan paljoa auta jos ruoka ja ammukset loppuu. Olisin huolissani varmuusvarastojen puutteesta. Ens talvella saattaa olla kova kyyti ihmisille kun tulee pulaa kaikesta ja hinnat vaan nousee.
@@Jonisco1 Luultavasti joo...mutta pitäisin silti suuni supussa tuollaisista asioista mistä selviää kriisiaikojen sotilaskeskittymät ja tieto mitä niiden varalle on harjoiteltu niin jää jotain työtä vakoojille ja tiedustelijoillekin. Jokin vastuu kai se on reserviläiselläkin ettei kaikkea laula maailmalle.
@@koljolat kyllä ryssä tälläset asiat tietää.
That's one big bunker Ron.
You have to be in heaven walking around in those things.
Great video again mate and have fun!
I hope he mics the tour guide next time. It would be nice to hear more of what he has to say.
Finland is a miracle country despite of it's low number of population. And hell they even have their own fastfood chain, beer, and chocolate brand.
Over 5 million is vast number of people when(/if) they work together, not against each other...
I am a Finn, though I live in France. I have to say this. The area where I live is a city that has grown seamlessly into all near by small towns - making the population of the entire area about 5 million - Finland's population 5.5 million is not that different - but hell do I miss the space to have entire country for the numbers. Having space enough makes it easier to get along with your neighbors. Well and generally to make things work. But biggest secret to that I think is how the taxes that we do see where they go are in fact collected. That being the fact that those who earn more pay more and those who earn less pay less. Someone who is ill and literally on minimal income may even request and receive the advantage of having personal taxation percentage 0%. But obviously it takes some bit time for the system to figure you are too ill to work and that the condition really is that serious and so on. But yea 0% is possible eventually for those who are really unlucky at their ability to earn and work due health reasons.
Very cool Bunker tour. Congratulations on getting 400k Subscriber's Ron 🎉
Very smart bunker structuring. The fact that it fits trucks and is used for parking as well tells you that it was well thought out.
Finland seems like a good country to live in. They actually care about their people, unlike here in the U.S.
Well, to be honest its not perfect, and stil quite hard for the poor people, but then again things could always be better anywhere, right? Just keep up the good fight to make things better.
@@korpienmahtijullit7508 but definitely a country where you don't die of hunger. If nothing else helps, you can always get food by standing in a line for a little bit.
@@veikkakarvonen831 i have been in lines, and they have been getting longer with finnish citizens, and now with ukrainian citizen also in same line..
@@korpienmahtijullit7508 Finland is fine for poor people, they have better life than in many other countries, sure they have to think how to use their money and life is not luxurious, but you get everything you need without begging.
@@korpienmahtijullit7508 no the homeles/poor people could get homes if they want
Thanks Ron that was fascinating 👍. We all need a bunker!
And this is one reason why I love living here!
It's so wonderfully clean !!!
No scumbag "tagging" up the walls, urinating on the walls, or raiding the generators to steal the copper wires to sell as scrap.
**** In NYC, the two legged predators would destroy the place.
Obviously, the facility is staffed 24/7.
Civilised society vs welfare society
yes, the USA is unfortunately third-world country. When I was young every one of my friends wanted to go to the USA. Nowadays nobody, it is really sad what the USA became. It was a country of freedom, now is the country of mass shootings, epidemy of homelessness, and big social differences. It is scary to watch it from the outside. It looks like the USA destroy itself in a couple of years.
@@cervofun Well at least the rich get to have their fun, they can afford to pay themselves sick for the life style. That's the only kind of people that still want to go to USA, because they are basically just nobility throwing filthy peasant workers into wood chippers because fuck safety, safety doesn't make profit when working.
@@sa34w that is confusing. Which one is which? Finland is a nordic style welfare society. So welfare is good? But is civilised bad? You lost me there.
Real cool. Blew my mind when you drove out into the city, unreal something that size is in such a populated area.
These are all over the place in Finland. It was actually strange back in the day when I realized that most of rest of the world doesn't really have stuff like this apparently.
In Finland have civilian protection laws. If building is 1200/m2 ( 12916 /ft2) or bigger. Then must build civilian protection shelter. Old laws was tighter. Nowadays laws maybe going tighter again and must build more shelters.
Where else would you put a bunker? You're not going to build one of these in an uninhabited rural area. This thing is meant to be used in a crisis, so it's right where the people are, in the city center.
@@Ruija27 Well, army and government function bunkers are more out of the way. Sometimes they sell bunkers for civilians when they don't need them anymore.
There are 4 metro stations that function as shelters and 9 rock shelters within one kilometer of this facility (Finlandia Hall car park).
This was awesome! Thanks for sharing with us all!
$33,333.33 per person! Respect to Finland!
That was awesome. If I could make one suggestion, get mics on those guys or whoever you interview like this in the future. I could not hear A LOT of what they were saying, and then add in the accent, and a lot of great info is missed, and I HATE missing out on great technical info and details that they were talking about. Keep up the great work.
Finland. They are a little but proud country. And...so beautiful
We aren't little. It's a perfectly average sized country with a good personality!
WOW with bells on. Thank you for bringing us this vid also thank you to the good folk who let you, and by extension us have a look around.
ive rented one of those blue vans from there.
The walking entrance is 100x nicer than that dull tunnel.
Also that parking lot is very similiar to our main hospital's bunker, with the doors and roof height
One of the most incredible TH-cam vids Ive ever seen! Well done!!!
I love how you get your hands on everything and shake everything up. It's exactly what I would do.
Another fine video. Thanks for traveling abroad and sharing.
Nice thing about those springs is it isolates the vibration through the structure. Might be a neat feature to add to your generator pods.
Thank you for the upload and going through the trouble of filming all this for us to see, mate! For those who keep saying there was not this or that in this shelter: they only showed the technical area of the shelter, there is more to it which was not shown. Although it feels a bit weird to hear about the 72 hour readyness time to get the food and water inside, I have a gut feeling there are some food reserves stocked inside they didnt mention. Otherwise I do hope they will make some proper stocking runs with their trucks when the alert comes. In the end it will boil down to how long the food and water stocks last and will the machines, air filtering etc. keep working, and how many people actually got in before the blast doors closed. Oh well, like they say, fingers crossed it´ll all work out if need be. And, as some persons have mentioned already, there is a whole network of tunnels and bomb shelters under the capitol city Helsinki. It was a nice touch of showing a bit of the city on the surface in the end, felt rather nostalgic to see some of the old corners again, lol.
Ron, thanks for sharing another amazing video 👍👍
So awesome!! Thanks Ron 👍
Proud to be Finn 🇫🇮
Check out Santapark Rovaniemi for a really cool Finnish bunker. It is an underground Santa/Christmas theme park with rides and elves and all that can house 3000 people in case of an emergency. Those surroundings would provide quite absurd apocalypse experience.
Thank❤️
Amazing! Great ideas! Thanks Ron. 🙏
Amazing! Thanks for showing us.
There's another of these underground bunkers in Helsinki with a large public swimming pool (olympic size) which will be emptied and used for shelter in emergency. There's a video about that one here on yt.
Really cool video and a very nice new shelter! Most shelters where I live are from the cold war period. Wish Muskö did guided tours, that would of been a cool place for you to visit!
Thanks for all the great videos
WOOOOW Amazing tour!!! The blast valves and curtain filter racks on the dirty side of the intakes are heavy metal as all hell!
The Concrete Spray is called Shotcrete we use it in the mining industry
its actually a law here that every single block of flats, projects or such places needs to have one shelter up to that predefined and regulated standard. during peacetime, its a warehouse for the housingblock but when shit starts to happen - its just emptied out, checked up and TADAH! you got yourself a shelter.
Awesome video Ron!
FYI, you were only show a 1/4 of that bunker.
About twenty years ago the military sold some of their excess multi store office buildings. The buildings were otherwise normal, just had 70 feet granite bedrock above the cave they were built in...
Love your dedication of doing the best and how you take care of your customers. My question is, can you build a shelter with an elevator in addition to the stairs? One with a battery back up and gravity descent ( like on the Towering Inferno?). This would make it so much easier for seniors & handicapped (heck-everyone!) to get supplies into. I’ve seen some pretty ingenious hidden doors that could be used to hide the entrance and for extra security you could do a sand dump like on your escape exit doors. Just thinking out loud …..
In my spare time I design bunkers and this very question came to mind one night. The solution I found was a fold down platform lift for the stairs. It's wheelchair capable and battery backup. Would work amazing for lowering supplies and people. When finished it folds up against the wall.
@@kyscott4561 Excellent! I knew there had to be a better way to get heavy supplies into a bunker besides down the stairs. We are building a house and put an elevator in for that reason!
Of course the bunkers have elevators! Who wants to climb up 40-80 feet to buy the groceries and then walk down carrying everything to your car?
Fantastic use and it help maintain a bunker too as long as its well maintained it will always be ready
This is the best bunker video i have ever watched on TH-cam buddy keep creating awesome videos ❤
Truly amazing!
Man, Ron! Great tour of a very cool Finland govt bunker!
It's the Finlandia Hall parking garage. Nothing government about it. Other than issuing regulations that force developments above certain size to include a shelter.
@@blegi1245 Thanks. I knew that, but everything is subsidized by Govt in Europe and soon in USA.
Finland, kudos for you all taking care of 6000 people
Finland has 55 000 bunkers scattered around the country everyone will fit in them
Im impressed by these Scandinavian countries' ingenuity and innovations. Finland, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark especially; they're always trying to help their citizens while creating new ways of adapting to an ever changing world -including green tech. As an American I am envious... Our model has always been more of everything and that attitude has led to a lot of problems. Ive always liked the "less is more" European sensibility tbh. Maybe its easier for them given they're smaller countries with a lot less people? Im not sure. Either way it does go to show that when you focus on the people and find that balance that a lot of the other societal issues minimize and it makes life better for everyone.
Look who their crazy neighbor is ... Forces you to be a little more proactive.
@@jamesbell8861 , yea, crazy ukronazis and their usa natostan pupeteers.
The bunkers you keep showing just get better and better, insane bunkers that would last anything. Just think of all the bunkers we'll never know about.
Hope to have a bunker one day
I have been in one of these,... they are truly amazing.
What an honor Ron! How did you convince them to allow you down there? Wow, I'm very impressed.
interesting is the filtering that can be inserted in case of need for the cooling air of the generator, barrel arrancione the fact that everything is suspended and amortized serves to dissipate the jolting earthquake waves during the explosions, mainly they come from the pavement, in fact in many bunkers they prefer to amortize for hanging than using suspensions that are more comfortable to install from the floor.
if one day you go to Germany there is bunker 5001 to visit that is extremely interesting, very engineered for those times, the NATO / Italian military ones are too old, year 1955/1960 are all abandoned, another very interesting bunker is the huge Government bunker codenamed Rosengarten I believe the most technologically advanced and huge in Germany of the 80s
orange filters are for breathing air
@@tonttu303 yes carbon filter
The Swiss developed a rubberised Paint its liquid and black looks exactly like anti fowling for ships but when its Dry it sets like a rubber which waterproves their underground Bunkers
Ron another great vid! Thanks!
They should be very proud!! A Country that works together for their human life. Love it!!!
Great video, If America built this same bunker, it would cost $200 Billion! I did notice the Fire Protection System (Sprinkler), it be nice if you had brought more of that into the video or future. I'm a Fire Sprinkler Contractor, couldn't help but notice.
No it wouldn't. There are plenty of bunkers in America that don't cost that. Always with the snide anti American comments
Finland is just as corrupted as America.
You can tell the contrast between serious civil defense and an obsessive backyard prepper.
Yep but you can also tell, aint no one surviving in a governemtn bunker. These 6000 lucky folks will soon eat each other alive. I'd bet my money on the prepper ;p
@@DavidKirwanirl You assume the shelter would be full of Americans, it wouldn't be. Finns are slightly more pragmatic, cooperative and united.
The capital region has equivalent shelter space for more people than the actual population. Anyone who ends up in this shelter in the city center wouldn't be lucky, they'd just end up there instead of the next one over.
And once you get out of the city, there's barely anything or anyone worth bombing and no need for shelters like this.
@@DavidKirwanirl There's more than enough space for all of the Helsinki city residents to relocate into these bunkers, This's is just an example of 1 of the larger of the more than 5k bunkers in Finland. After a nuclear disaster the Americans might find themselves with only those 6000 lucky folks but Finland will rise from the ashes and call it a monday
@@DavidKirwanirl Finns aren't like Americans. We are humble, united, selfless and cooperative. We would survive
You people are funny, "we're not like you barbarian Americans we're sophisticated intellectuals!"
You've never seen desperation, people in Britain didn't panic as much when they crawled into subways to avoid the bombs, but that's because they'd come right back out as soon as it's over. People in WWII Leningrad ate each other, despite what Russia wants you to think. The point we're trying to make is, there's gonna be 6,000 people that aren't military fit, in there for weeks, panicked because there's no food, the generators ran out of fuel, they're supposed to stay in there at least for a few weeks if not months for any fallout or chemicals to settle down.
It's a great start, right? It's a shelter, but feeding 6,000 people is gonna need more than just a few trucks bringing irradiated government rations. And what about the water? Water is the most important component to surviving anything, this shelter would need a few water-tower sized drums to help 6,000 people, we're talking way over a million liters of water, for a month or two, you're not delivering this with trucks while there's a war going on.
It's like any government projects, great intentions, poor execution. I'd rather hide in my house and roll the dice than get into that hole with multiple clusters of people going through panic attacks. At least American fallout shelters made an effort of feeding the people inside, this glorified parking garage is a deathtrap.
When he walked into the foam walled area and started yelling 😂😂
Impressive bunker.
Know I believe the General that said that Finland has been preparing for war with Russia for 70 years!
If there will be war/attack in future,, even we have independence it is still good to keep the defense up to date, never know what happens.
That’s a beautiful bunker. Well planed out wish the US would invest in their cities like this. Our system is set up to fend for yourselves. All the money this country has and we still are inadequate. I guess you can’t save everyone.
The government wasted all our money in iraq afghanistan and ukraine. We dont have the money you think when democrats like nancy pelosi waste our money just to get rich. We at at the point where we cant even afford our interest payments simply hecause of 6 individuals, robert mueller, john brennan, bush, obama, biden, pelosi
We also have bunkers of the same size in Finland that serve as diesel storage for times of crisis. They are literally filled almost to the ceiling with diesel and the checks are done with rowing boats. The locations of these are not public information, but I have visited one inside.
I learned a huge deal from this, and i'm a Finn. I knew about the blast and gas tight doors, ventilation etc but now how they were actually done.
It's amazing what country can do for its people when it has smart government and corruption under control.
I love how all these other countries have bunkers to protect their people. But living in the United States I don't know of one bunker that we could all run to🤔
@Steve Sherman That and the military we have is way more advanced than Finland's. It's a lot cheaper to build a $200M bunker vs trillions invested in national defense.
@Steve Sherman You're pretty ignorant honestly
@Mathias He doesn't know and will refuse to believe anything, that's how these discussions will go nowhere like train.
@Steve Sherman Where is all the waste going? Where is the water coming from?
You know Steve, thats a funny question, which you may very well realise yourself when you first understand that Finland has the same level of technology as USA.
But lets just say the water is going to be recycled. Like in the Space Station. You work the rest out yourself.
And where is the food going to be stored? In underground, duh. Thats why theres tunnels. A LOT of tunnels.
Thanks!
Looks amazing wonder if we have some thing this size in the uk we probs do somewhere haha
I believe Switzerland also has underground bunkers in hospitals for their people.
Same in Finland.
Switzerland probably has underMOUNTAIN everything. Same thing, except a kilometer of rock above.
If Russia can't handle Ukraine, they sure as hell can't handle Finland. A smaller population but much better training and preparedness.
What exactly do you mean but not handling them? They are absolutely hammering the Ukrainians in the East, which is their true and original objective
@@pamountains2 Russia is a massive nation and should have been able to take little Ukraine in just a week, and surely under a month. The mighty Army of Saddam fell completely in just 3 weeks with over 30,000 Iraqi soldiers killed and the rest captured or deserted. Ukraine is manhandling Russia because they've become soft and everyone sees it.
@@mattycakes1161 they have been very selective. It is all tactics. It is all smoke and mirrors. The politicians launder money through Ukraine. That is the only reason we are sending anything over there. Ukraine would be SOL without foreign weapons. Now, even with those weapons, in the Donbas they are being steamrolled. Estimates of 300 Ukrainian soldiers a day are dying. And in my opinion Russia hasn’t even become heavy handed yet. We shall see
@@pamountains2 Russia always moves back the goal post when they fail miserably.
@@qwertyqwerty-ek7dy believe what you like
Good morning everyone
2:01 what a nice black Skoda 👍👍
What they showed was only about 10% of that complex. These people in the chat are trying to solve equations. they basically gave us a peep into their mechanical room for that sector.. LORD!!!
It would be interesting to see those 90%. The 10% shown was unimpressive and made it look like this concept had a ton of design flaws.
Yeah, network of these bunkers go waaaaaaay beyond what was shown. Can't reveal everything u know, for the safety.
Finns have planned everything perfectly. They wont show it because it is a security risk.
Every multi-storey building. Have bom shelter and apartment house. Here too where my apartme is.
Plus the areas that aren't exactly for the public. Stuff that don't need publicity... military facilities and so on. There is somewhere entire amo factory underground to give an example. Obviously it and some of that stuff is known of - but not really viewed ever.
Great Video, Ron! This video is absolutely amazing! It shows that the European countries seem to care more for its citizens than My Own Country!
Your state is many thousand miles further away from Russia, and you don't have only one major population center containing a large proportion of your nation's citizens. Y'all are very scattered around. This city is a few hundred miles away from Russia. And a few hundred miles away from a major Russian city that might be hit by US strikes.
@@pistonburner6448 I don't know your expertise in Nuclear Strategy, but in the Nuclear Age, there's NO safe place from being a Nuclear Target. "Counterforce Targets" (Strategic Bomber Bases, Missile Sites, Major Military Bases) in the United States would be Primary Targets to be hit. "Countervalue Targets" (Major Population Centers, i.e. Major Cities) would be considered Secondary Targets to inflict as much Mass Casualties and destruction to a nation's infrastructure as possible. The same would be the same in Europe and Russia. I'm personally very much impressed that the Governments of Finland, Sweden, and Switzerland places a much higher price value on their citizens than the United States and other European Countries. Not only in the unfortunate event of Nuclear War, but other possible Major Disasters. Back in the 1950's and 1960's, the Citizens of the United States somewhat played around with the issue of Surviving a Nuclear War. In retrospect, it's a bit comical. Today, ordinary American Citizens have to take up the moniker of responsibility to protect themselves and their Families. The United States Government will only protect itself and the rest of the American People to fend for themselves. I will close that contrary to what Russian Military Strategy in thinking that Nuclear War is only an extension of Conventional Warfare and is winnable. It isn't! Nuclear Warfare is a total different form of Warfare and NO ONE wins that type of War. No matter how "scattered around" one might be. If I was to be given the power to invoke the same Civil Defense Policy as in Finland, Sweden, and Switzerland, I would!!!!!
@@southtexasprepper1837 I guess you don't understand the concept of probabilities, strategic importance, etc.
Do you get population density, distance to Russia, the probability of Russians attacking mainland USA vs. Finland? Do you understand that even a US strike on St. Petersburg puts Helsinki at risk? And they've already fought a war with Russia?
Texas has none of those risks.
Finland has most of its population in like 3 population centres, their one single largest population centre holds a huge percentage of all the Finns that exist. So hit that one place alone and their population is largely wiped out.
Also, just having the US hit a major Russian city means that major Finnish population centre is at risk.
Not anywhere near the same situation as in Texas.
Then there's the fact that Finland is a massively corrupt country, and the government officials get bribery money from the construction companies that get the contracts to build those bunkers at an inflated price, as they do also from those companies that get to do business with those bunkers during peacetime. The owner of the company that runs that parking business in the bunker and a few other bunkers like it is one of the only people in Finland who owns a new Rolls Royce.
Finland does not "put a higher value on its people" than US does, that's totally untrue and based on nothing. The US values its people a lot more: allows them to be free, doesn't rob them blind, keeps them a lot safer by investing a lot more in their military, not forcing every male to serve in a military which they equip and staff horrendously poorly.
US citizens are, as a result of more caring: more wealthy, more free, live better lives, and are MUCH safer!
You are far more wealthy than Finns (despite spending a lot more on your military, which has kept you many times safer than Finns), so Texans can build their shelters if they want. But there's not much point to build bomb shelters in Texas, is there? Not unless you want to as a hobby or other safety concerns.
@@pistonburner6448 I'm well aware of the concept of "probabilities." However, you seem to have no concept of the overall power of Nuclear Weapons. First, you're making an awful amount of assumptions of my opinion(s), knowledge, and expertise based on nothing else except your own preconceived opinions (which don't amount to a hill of beans or smell like Horse Manure). You don't know me, you've never met me or having nothing of the knowledge that I've accumulated since the 1980's. That's how long I've been a Prepper (Survivalist). Especially since I have an extensive library and literature on the subject of possible Nuclear War, Nuclear Weapons, Nuclear Strategy, and possible Survival means. In the Nuclear Age, DISTANCE DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING ANYMORE! When missiles are launched from land-based missile silos from the Russian Federation to the United States (or visa versa). There's a 25 to 30 flight time from Missile Launch to the Nuclear Warhead landing on target. 6 to 10 minute flight time, if it's a Submarine Launched ICBM. And you want to argue about some meaningless hypothetical scenario of the United States vs. Finland or Finland's closeness to St. Petersburg????? Seriously?! A more likely set of "probabilities" is that the Yellowstone Supervolcano will erupt tomorrow, next week, next month, or next year and plunge the Earth into a Volcanic Winter and radically change the Earth’s Climate for decades to come. That's a more likely "probability." Russia's latest ICBM RS-28 Sarmat (aka "Satan-2") allegedly has the capability of wiping out large areas the size of Texas, France, and the U.S. Eastern Coast. So, your claims that Texas would not have to worry about large population losses being annihilated is a bit disingenuous on your part. Especially if Russian claims are correct. "Goggle" it! Not to mention you're exhibiting a total lack of knowledge of Nuclear Weapons!!!!! I'd suggest that you get the book "The Effects of Nuclear Weapons." It'll educate you! It helps that one does their homework before going on comment threads, posting a comment (or a series of comments) and making uneducated, ill-informed, or uninformed comments. It's another trying to make oneself look intelligent when one isn't. Btw, in you saying that Finland "is a massively corrupt country" is based on what????? Your so-called informed opinion????? I have a news flash for you. EVERY country has differing degrees of "corruption." Welcome To The Real World! My Country, your Country, Russia, Red China, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.,etc. I also noticed that you didn't attack Sweden or Switzerland in your holier than thou attitude when it comes to "corruption" or that they didn't care about their own people. I wonder why????? Perhaps an oversight on your part????? In you attacking Finland in saying that "government officials get bribery money from construction companies that get contracts to build those bunkers" isn't a sin. Here in the United States, there's many Major Storage Companies (such as "Iron Mountain") that have bought former mined out underground Quarries and use them for storage facilities. Businesses and even the U.S. Federal Government have the same type of facilities and used "construction companies" to update and continual maintenance of said facilities. I guess you're going to claim that there's "corruption" there too????? Huh????? No! It's called "Free Enterprise." Same goes for both Sweden and Finland building underground Nuclear Waste Storage Facilities. I guess there's "corruption" there too?????
@@southtexasprepper1837 You can't even use paragraphs.
I appreciate how Ron caught himself about to make a "unless the Russians attack" after he quickly realized where he was and that that is indeed a potentiality. Nice stop!
Northern Finland has place called Santapark which is santa's amusement park at normal use and also shelter for 3000 people of Rovaniemi citizens
Well.... Switzerland has almost over 100% ;-) Some of the towns/cantons even target 110-120% capacity..... We just discussed this in our town council meeting some weeks ago...
Helsinki also has more room in shelters than what the population of the city is so that there is space for tourists and people who come to work in the city from other areas. In a country with land area as big as ours and population as small as ours, one doesn't need shelters for the entire population as most of the country is rural and a lot of people live in small towns or sparcely populated rural areas which will never be a target for a foreign military.
That's so cool to see wish more governments built bunkers
What made you think that government, state budget, financed this bunker or was in some role building it?
They do build bunkers for the top of the food chain. The dummies are left to the elemnents
@@GFY11 Not true in my country.
@@just42tube so they save the idiots in your country too? Bad idea. They should be left to die
Governments do a terrible job with everything they do. Stop worshipping governments to solve your problems and that would save us a lot of problems
If only I could have a bunker too. Don't have that kind of money, but I have so many design ideas.
I'm in the same boat! I have dozens of drafted designs that someday I hope to make use of. Probably my favorite design ideas is multiple fresh water cisterns instead of the under floor water tanks.
Man I wish you could've seen some of the bigger ones. This one is so small. Some of the other ones underneath the Helsinki city center are kilometers long with multiple levels.
Absolutely phenomenal. I wish the US had enough for say 10%. Two cents here:
I'd honestly be a little uncomfortable showing those blueprints and proprietary equipment. Like the 3/4" blast door I could get into in 20-30 mins tops.
Amazing though. 👏
its not the point, point is to get into shelter against bombing or artillery. not against troops. defence forces are keeping enemy not getting into these cities or into these shelters.
If the Russians are at that door the war has already been lost.
.. It's not made against people. It's made against bombs you goofball.
Biden and his lifelong corrupt pals have been spending their lives bankrupting us in war to the point we cant afford our interest let alone build bunkers. Liberals really hate a successful america. Everything they do cripples our nation horrifically
I imagine there are extremely advanced bunkers that we will never see.
Advanced technology with complete creature comforts.
Whole ecosystems that self run.
You should go and see the one that has an Olympic size swimming pool and much more. Unbelievable bunker in Helsinki.
South from Finland (nabor) in Estonia, i live ext to a former goverment heads evaquation bunker, lideraly our fundation toutches the walls.
Sadly it is in a disarray as when we regained independence all brand new top secret bunkers were built.
When people use the word government so loosely not specifying what they actually mean. It is not at all always that the money for shelters is coming from the State budget or even local government (municipalities) budget. There are building regulations, which give real estate, owners mainly, responsibilities including building or arranging mandatory shelters. So it is more like nation or society that just some "government" which enables everything.
And the laws, governing all this, are decided by the national Parliament and only more details are given by the decrees by the government.
Looks like Finland government cares about their citizens unlike the UNITED STATES! Lucky ppl.
Whole different situation, US doesn't have Russia as a neighbour. US has not been in atleast 10 major wars with Russia in last 1000 years :D
So you need a "daddy government" to do everything for you? You want to give most of your money to a government bureaucracy like the DMV and expect things to work smoothly and fairly for you?
I think you're lucky to live as a free person in a nation that isn't run by a government kleptocracy and oligarchs. Thanks to your freedom you Americans are far more wealthy than Finns, can determine your own lives and what you spend your money on. Finns make little money because of the chokehold of the kleptocrats stifling their economy. They pay most of their money in taxes which ends up in the bank accounts of other people, and they maybe get a few token 'services' by a bureaucracy worse than the US DMV.
It was easy for the 'government' to decide to build that bunker, because it's not their money and they get kickbacks from the construction companies that build them. And in the peacetime it's used for other business under contract. Guess if they get kickbacks from those who get the contracts too? The owner of the company that runs that parking business in the bunker has traded in his old Rolls Royce for a new Rolls Royce. In Finland a Rolls Royce costs double what it does in the US because of the taxes too...
The politicians get rich (and go to work for Putin after being prime minister...), all the high level government bureaucrats get very rich, the people running the companies who get the contract work from the bureaucrats and politicians get rich. Where does all that money come from, especially in a country so much less wealthy than the US? From the 'ordinary people' of course!
Those 'ordinary people' pay massive amounts to rent tiny apartments in that cold country, live simple lives and drive small cars if they even have cars at all. They don't have money to spend like Americans do. Their money goes to "daddy government" and "daddy" decides what he wants to do with the money, somehow ending up rich...as do his friends and those doing business with him...
The 'regular' people in the USA aren't under the thumb of a massive oligarch-government kleptocracy, so they make a lot more money than Finns, and therefore they can live far better lives. Americans can choose to build their own bunkers if they so wish, and thanks to being more free and not stolen from as much they can afford to put more money into bunkers if they so wish. And that's after Americans have already paid a LOT more into their military too.
Meanwhile Finland's "daddy government" is so "good" that their ex prime ministers go to work directly for Putin's Gazprom!
@@pistonburner6448 Do you not realize that that is exactly what globalists are trying to do to us now? Take away our American way of life? I was only speaking about the bomb shelter! For safety.
@@TheNismo777 USA is only 300 years old. Alaska is neighboring russia. nukes can fly from russia to usa and vice versa.
Really appreciate these videos you're doing. I just wish folks in this country would wake up and see the need to reinstitute our Civil Defense sector and get our population prepared for what is coming. We really need to construct the facilities necessary to protect our population for what I believe is the forthcoming global war between the forces of evil and the civilized world. Normal folks have no idea what we will soon be facing. Keep up the good work, man. Bless you for what you are doing.
I love your vids
Great video, anyone else get the feeling we didn’t see the whole facility? There were bits we saw that weren’t on the plan.
yes, it was just one shelter on bigger tunnel complex. And these are for civilians , military has their own bunkers.
I've played basketball in one of these. :)
Ron they wont pile in there. Just like the subways in Ukraine they will setup tents... and the "parking spots" are actually designated spaces for families/groups, notice the square shape when just lines are needed?. Not many frills, but nothing like this for 'regular' people in the US..... I think it's amazing the government there is doing this...
Guess who pays for all of this? And you're naive if you think that a country like Finland, which is run by oligarchs and a public sector kleptocracy is doing something great just for the people. The owner of the parking company who is running that parking business under contract drives a brand new Rolls Royce (Finnish taxes double its price too).
Those 'ordinary people' pay massive amounts to rent tiny apartments in that cold country, live simple lives and drive small cars if they even have cars at all. They don't have money to spend like Americans do.
The 'regular' people in the USA aren't under the thumb of a massive oligarch-government kleptocracy, so they make a lot more money than Finns, and therefore they can live far better lives. Americans can choose to build their own bunkers if they so wish, and thanks to being more free and not stolen from as much they can afford to put more money into bunkers if they so wish. Free Americans can afford to pay a lot more into their military too.
@@pistonburner6448 What a load of crap
@@gregharwho62 If it was, then you could provide counter-argumentation. But you can't, so clearly my argumentation was spot on.
@@pistonburner6448 GDP per capita Finland ranks 25th. My tiny apartment is around 200m2 and my tiny car is the new Land Rover Defender.
@@gregharwho62 What do you do and how much do you make per year?
You can't lie to me, I KNOW the facts, liar. Why are Finns such massive liars?
The average apartment for Finns is nowhere near yours, Finns make FAR LESS than Americans and many other nations. And most Finns can barely afford one car per family, and they suck: they're small, base models.
Which exact year, engine, equipment level is your Defender?
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